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Speaker 3: Alexander Sydney.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a little bit of background
Speaker 3: on Alexander Lehman Sidney Alex Woodworth twenty four years old.
Speaker 3: He was born on January first, nineteen ninety four in
Speaker 3: Saint Path Paul's, Wisconsin, so he's a Capricorn. And then
Speaker 3: I also did look up his zodiac Chinese signed browster.
Speaker 3: It's a little sketchy around our New Years because their
Speaker 3: New Year's sometimes is in February, so in the Year
Speaker 3: of the Rooster. Now Alex's parents where John and Kimberley
Speaker 3: Woodworth family lived in o Claire, Wisconsin, and Alex was
Speaker 3: the oldest of four siblings, and he really enjoyed being
Speaker 3: the big brother and his extracurricular hobbies and activities. He
Speaker 3: loved reading, being at the coffee shop, and just helping
Speaker 3: people in general. Alex cherished the time he spent with
Speaker 3: his family and friends. So pretty cool guy, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Alex attended Ociola Ociola High School and he graduated in
Speaker 3: twenty twelve, and then he went on to the University
Speaker 3: of Wisconsin o'clare where he received his bachelor's degree in
Speaker 3: philosophy and biology in the spring of twenty seventeen. So
Speaker 3: that would be before the pandemic. That's the time line
Speaker 3: of things.
Speaker 4: Yes, in post.
Speaker 3: Panties and posts, this is three. He attended and graduated
Speaker 3: the University of Oregon with intentions of graduating with his
Speaker 3: master's degree in philosophy. Now we're going to meet Ezra.
Speaker 3: Ezra Jane McCanless twenty. She was born October sixth, nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety seven, in Stanley, Wisconsin, and she was born Monica
Speaker 3: Kay to a mother. Her mom was only fourteen when
Speaker 3: she had Ezra. Her name is Rosalina Gunlson. Ezra's biological
Speaker 3: father was not part of her life. She was later
Speaker 3: Monica Carlin after her mother's partner, Jesshane Carlin, adopted her
Speaker 3: when she was four years old, and her mom and
Speaker 3: her stepfather divorced when she was twelve, but she continued
Speaker 3: to have a close relationship with her adoptive father, Jashane.
Speaker 3: So Ezra later explained that she gave herself a new
Speaker 3: name at the age of eighteen because she felt Ezra
Speaker 3: was a better fit for her than Monica, and she
Speaker 3: picked the last name McCandless in honor of the free
Speaker 3: spirit Chris McCanless, whose life was memorialized in the book
Speaker 3: and film called Into the Wild and Ezra. She lived
Speaker 3: in Stanley, Wisconsin, and during high school, Ezra she decided
Speaker 3: to try out different names and pronouns, you know, finding herself.
Speaker 3: She dropped out of college and moved to Eau Claire
Speaker 3: from Stanley, and she worked at the Stanley Boyd Area
Speaker 3: School District. Now, Ezra was in a love triangle, well
Speaker 3: sexually involved with two other men at the same time.
Speaker 3: One man his name is John Hanson and the other
Speaker 3: Jason Mangle. Ezra was very much more attracted to Jason Mongole.
Speaker 3: They were on again, off again, and she'd wanted always
Speaker 3: to go back. Ezra met Alex at a coffee shop
Speaker 3: he worked as a barista, called Racy Delane's Coffee Lounge.
Speaker 3: Ezra was in a relationship with Jason Mengel at the time,
Speaker 3: and they all three became friends. Jason was a National
Speaker 3: Guard medic and he told CBS News that Ezra was
Speaker 3: going through an emotional time emotional things, and that Alex
Speaker 3: was a really good friend, and he said, I kind
Speaker 3: of pushed them together at one time because I knew
Speaker 3: they both had similar viewpoints. He had some things in
Speaker 3: his life that I figured she could help with, and
Speaker 3: I thought he could help her with things in her life.
Speaker 3: So Jason soon discovered that Ezra and Alex had developed
Speaker 3: a romantic relationship. Ezra then ended her relationships with both
Speaker 3: Alex and Jason, but then later attempted to rekindle her
Speaker 3: relationship with Jason. So that's what it seems like. You know,
Speaker 3: it's I'm with you, I'm not with you. I'm with
Speaker 3: but I don't It doesn't sound like other people know
Speaker 3: that they're only she does, right, you know. So in
Speaker 3: mid February, when Jason was gone on two weeks of
Speaker 3: National Guard duty, Ezra she moved back to her mom's
Speaker 3: house in Stanley, and when Jason came back, he would
Speaker 3: meet up with her at hotels. And during one of
Speaker 3: the hotel stays, Jason read messages on Ezra's phone and
Speaker 3: he found out about her relationship with Alex and John Hanson.
Speaker 4: We got to lock up that.
Speaker 3: Vulgar oh boy, right who? Now she accused them of
Speaker 3: sexual assault of John Hanson of sexual assault. So now
Speaker 3: Jason he goes out, he confronts both men and where
Speaker 3: the three men had a public argument at a coffee shop.
Speaker 3: So Ezra's telling Jason one thing. Everybody's getting different stories
Speaker 3: from Ezra. Now. Ezra blamed Alex for ending her relationship
Speaker 3: with Jason. On February twenty fourth, twenty eighteen, Ezra sent
Speaker 3: Alex attacks that told him not to ever talk to
Speaker 3: her again. Ezra then sent Jason journals in which she
Speaker 3: expressed how such she was for betraying him. Can you
Speaker 3: imagine that, Tanya you like getting back? Let me show
Speaker 3: you my journal entries on how tore up I was
Speaker 3: for betraying you. So this is proof you got to
Speaker 3: take me back.
Speaker 2: You got to take me back because I really was upset.
Speaker 3: Read it. These are my journals cheering. This is authentic.
Speaker 3: So Ezra had moved from eu Claire to Stanley, but
Speaker 3: had showed up in Eclaire to surprise Jason. She met
Speaker 3: him at the coffee shop where he worked, and then
Speaker 3: she told him she wanted to show Alex some of
Speaker 3: her writings. Jason and Ezra had messaged each other six
Speaker 3: hundred times the night before she came into town, and
Speaker 3: Jason claimed that as had been emotionally down, and she
Speaker 3: told him that that day that she planned to take
Speaker 3: her life back and she was going to be Ezra again. Well,
Speaker 3: Jason became suspicious and he tracked down Ezra to Alex's house,
Speaker 3: where he confronted them both about the nature of their relationship.
Speaker 3: Then the three went their separate ways, and I'll tell
Speaker 3: you but Ezra shows up to the Simple House three
Speaker 3: hours later from this meeting. Now, Ezra allegedly planned to
Speaker 3: speak with Alex to have him admit that their affair
Speaker 3: was a mistake, which would help her get Jason back.
Speaker 3: A police officer arrives to Alex's house after a passerby
Speaker 3: called police to report that Jason was standing outside pacing
Speaker 3: looking very suspicious. For about forty five minutes, one officer
Speaker 3: spoke with Alex, and another spoke with Jason, and another
Speaker 3: spoke with Ezra, who was waiting in the front seat
Speaker 3: of her car. Jason I told the officer that he
Speaker 3: was concerned about Ezra because if she gave me a
Speaker 3: vibe today, man, I don't know. It doesn't feel right.
Speaker 3: Something feels wrong. The bobser concluded that everything seems normal
Speaker 3: and then they leave. Now, Ezra, she found out she
Speaker 3: was pregnant and early fall of twenty seventeen, with Jason's child,
Speaker 3: she drove to Minneapolis to have an abortion, and not
Speaker 3: long after the abortion, Ezra began her secret relationship with Alex.
Speaker 3: And Ezra's previous relationship had deteriorated after she decided to
Speaker 3: terminate her pregnancy, and she claimed that she was young, confused,
Speaker 3: and felt rushed into the abortion. She said the decision
Speaker 3: left her empty and hurt emotionally and physically, and she
Speaker 3: claimed that she ended the relationship with Jason and the
Speaker 3: relationship with Alex was just within a few weeks of
Speaker 3: that breakup. Okay, so now it's March twenty second, twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: and around four fifteen pm on that day, the dun
Speaker 3: County Sheriff Office received a call from Don Sipple that
Speaker 3: a young woman had arrived on foot at his house
Speaker 3: in the east seventy six hundred block of fortieth Avenue
Speaker 3: in the town of Springbrook. Sypple reported that the woman
Speaker 3: was bloody, barefoot, and muddy. A deputy responded with the
Speaker 3: Wisconsin State trooper and the woman was later identified as
Speaker 3: Ezra McCanless now. The deputy found Ezra's hair to be
Speaker 3: disheveled and noted blood around her mouth, on her knuckles,
Speaker 3: her left arm, and upper right thigh visible through a
Speaker 3: hole in her pants. She appeared to be very upset
Speaker 3: and crying, but the deputy said he didn't see any
Speaker 3: visible tears. Little asterisk. Ezra was not able to provide
Speaker 3: her name or address when asked by the trooper. She
Speaker 3: did give the name of Jason Mangle of Oak Cleay Is,
Speaker 3: someone to contact on her behalf. Ezra was taken by
Speaker 3: ambulance to the mail clinic in Eau Claire, which was
Speaker 3: followed by a dun County deputy, and at the hospital,
Speaker 3: the deputy could see the word boy cut into Ezra's
Speaker 3: left arm. Ezra claimed that Alex attacked her and after
Speaker 3: the attack she carved the word boy onto her arm.
Speaker 3: That this is going to flip flop back and forth
Speaker 3: this story. While at the hospital, the deputy also learned
Speaker 3: that Ezra had changed her name from Monica Carlin in
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen. Ezra initially claimed that Alex attacked her in
Speaker 3: retaliation after she stopped identifying as a man, which was
Speaker 3: an identity that she said Alex preferred. Ezra claimed this
Speaker 3: is what prompted Alex to carve the word boy in
Speaker 3: her arm, but then later confessed to marking herself.
Speaker 2: Okay, so she so, Ezra identified as a man at
Speaker 2: one point and Alex really liked that, and now that
Speaker 2: she identifies as a girl, he carved the word boy
Speaker 2: in her.
Speaker 3: Arm in a spiteful way.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, okay, after the.
Speaker 3: Attack, Yes, on her left arm.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: Now. She said that in high school she had often
Speaker 3: questioned her gender. Ezra told detectives that Alex had picked
Speaker 3: up on that and he used to call me like
Speaker 3: boy a lot and just say stuff like that. But
Speaker 3: I don't really identify that way anymore. That's what. Yeah,
Speaker 3: her thing is that he would call her a boy
Speaker 3: or however she identified as in changing. That was very upsetting.
Speaker 4: So what happened.
Speaker 3: The doctor who examined Ezra on March twenty second noted
Speaker 3: that the angle of the wounds indicated that they could
Speaker 3: be self inflicted, and the letters carved in her left
Speaker 3: arm were orientated for her to look at. Ezra. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I'm also a right hander.
Speaker 2: You're a lustee, yes, you know, so harving up my
Speaker 2: right arm, yeah.
Speaker 3: In a way that you could see. Yeah, Like now
Speaker 3: see that gives me a new perspective. I'm like, Wow,
Speaker 3: if I really wanted to sell it, you got to
Speaker 3: do backwards, yeah, or backwards or.
Speaker 2: Just yeah in the mirror something.
Speaker 3: I think that's diabolically clever to have that much planning.
Speaker 3: But she did it. She had it, Yes, she had
Speaker 3: it to where you could easily see it for her.
Speaker 3: So Ezra admitted to the hospital staff that she had
Speaker 3: self harm in the past. Then, while being treated at
Speaker 3: the hospital, Ezra was interviewed by detectives. Investigators at the
Speaker 3: scene realized that Alex was missing and contacted his family.
Speaker 4: Oh well yeah.
Speaker 3: The dun County deputy reached out to the Eau Claire
Speaker 3: Police Department for help finding Jason Mengele, and an officer
Speaker 3: said earlier that day, around twelve thirty pm, police made
Speaker 3: contact with Ezra, Jason, and Alex remember in the driveway
Speaker 3: of Alex's home. So, when asked what happened that day,
Speaker 3: Ezra admitted that she was at Alex's house and left
Speaker 3: to go to Owen Park in the city, where she
Speaker 3: claimed that Alex allegedly attacked her and cut boy into
Speaker 3: her arm. Now, in an interview review of cameras in
Speaker 3: the area, the officer could find no evidence of Ezra's
Speaker 3: car coming or going from the park, noting that the
Speaker 3: alleged assault took place near a busy intersection with lots
Speaker 3: of vehicles in pedestrian traffic. So at this point an
Speaker 3: investigator took over the investigation and observed that a significant
Speaker 3: amount of time had taken place between the time Ezra
Speaker 3: was found at the Sivil residence and the last time
Speaker 3: she was seen with Alex. For his safety, an unsuccessful
Speaker 3: search for Alex was initiated by the city and the
Speaker 3: County of Eau Claire. On March twenty third, twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: around three pm, the investigators went to Sipples home to
Speaker 3: interview on a second time, and as they drove up,
Speaker 3: they noticed a mud covered road leading off to the
Speaker 3: south of four hundred and thirtieth Avenue, about a forty
Speaker 3: acre parcel east of the Sipple home. One of the
Speaker 3: investigators returned to the dirt road and found a single
Speaker 3: set of bare footprints in the mud that lacked the
Speaker 3: ridge detail found in a shoe pattern. He also observed
Speaker 3: tire tracks leading up to the muddy road. Now walking
Speaker 3: up the side of the road, the detectives located a
Speaker 3: two thousand and three Chevy and pala with license plate
Speaker 3: that later confirmed it as Ezra's car. The car also
Speaker 3: had multiple colorful drawings on the exterior. The driver's side
Speaker 3: rear door was standing open and clothing could be seen
Speaker 3: lying on the ground outside, so the detectives could see
Speaker 3: that what appeared to be the head and upper body
Speaker 3: of a person lying partly outside the door. With blood
Speaker 3: around the car and no signs of life, it was
Speaker 3: clear the person was deceased. Once they confirmed that there
Speaker 3: were no other victims in the scene, the detectives backed
Speaker 3: out of the area to preserve the crime scene, and
Speaker 3: they called the dun County Sheriff's office to complete the investigation,
Speaker 3: and the body was identified as Alex Woodworth and he
Speaker 3: was taken to the Ramsey County Medical Examiner's Office the
Speaker 3: following day, March twenty fourth, for his autopsy examination. According
Speaker 3: to the autopsy report, the cause of death was multiple
Speaker 3: sharp force injuries sixteen total and the manner of death
Speaker 3: was homicide and a scarf was found around Alex's neck
Speaker 3: in a parent attempt to stop his bleeding. H Now,
Speaker 3: March twenty fourth, Ezra McCanless was interviewed by investigators and
Speaker 3: she told them she drove to Alex's house to return
Speaker 3: some things to him, and she said they wanted to
Speaker 3: talk with each other and decided to go to a
Speaker 3: public place. Initially, she was in the driver's seat with
Speaker 3: Alex in the passenger seat, and then Ezra became anxious
Speaker 3: and had Alex drive instead. So Ezra claimed that they
Speaker 3: ended up on a dirt road on that four hundred
Speaker 3: and thirtieth Avenue in Springbrook in dun County, where they
Speaker 3: got stuck in the mud and she alleged that Alex
Speaker 3: attacked her in the vehicle and carved the word boy
Speaker 3: in her arm. Ezra claimed that she had betrayed Alex
Speaker 3: and he attempted to rape her with a knife in
Speaker 3: the back seat of the car. She said he cut
Speaker 3: her clothes off with the knife, but Ezra them meet
Speaker 3: him in the groin and then grabbing the blade side
Speaker 3: of the knife. She said she was able to take
Speaker 3: the blade from Alex and admitted to stabbing him anywhere
Speaker 3: and everywhere now. The knife involved in the incident had
Speaker 3: been in the trunk of Ezra's car. Ezra had been
Speaker 3: working for her father's tree service, and the knife was
Speaker 3: constantly being put in and taken out of the vehicle.
Speaker 3: Ezra later testified that her father said the knife could
Speaker 3: be used to break glass or to cut a seatbelt.
Speaker 3: She also stated that her father also thought she should
Speaker 3: be prepared for anything if she encountered a situation where
Speaker 3: she was in danger and she needed to do anything
Speaker 3: to get away.
Speaker 2: So it was why she got this knife in her car.
Speaker 3: It's always on the ready, exactly. So. Ezra believed that
Speaker 3: she stabbed Alex in the Genitalia area bya's leigh. The stomach,
Speaker 3: neck back by the ribs inside of his head. She
Speaker 3: did not respond when asked how the word boy got
Speaker 3: put onto her arm, but latermitted she put it there
Speaker 3: after she stabbed Alex. So, if you're gonna change.
Speaker 2: Her story again, if you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Use you know, you're going to plant some evidence that
Speaker 3: has gotta be a solid ass story, right, never changes, ever,
Speaker 3: not ever. And then it feels, yeah, it is so
Speaker 3: waterproof air for air tights.
Speaker 2: She's all over the place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did it. He did it. Now she's arrested.
Speaker 3: Ezra McCanless was suspected in Alex's death and was in
Speaker 3: custody at the dun County Jail scheduled to attend a
Speaker 3: bond hearing on March twenty eighth of twenty eighteen on
Speaker 3: the charge of first degree intentional homicide, and according to
Speaker 3: dun County District Attorney Andrea Nadell, Ezra McCandless confessed to
Speaker 3: killing Alex after being interviewed by investigators from dun County
Speaker 3: and the Eau Claire Police Department, and a cash bond
Speaker 3: of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars was set for
Speaker 3: Ezra in Dune County attorney Nodall asked that a bond
Speaker 3: of seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars be set, in
Speaker 3: amount that Ezra's attorney called ridiculous in light of what
Speaker 3: he called a lack of evidence and the fact that
Speaker 3: Ezra had no prior record. Ezra's defense attorney asked that
Speaker 3: she be released on co signature bond with her mother now.
Speaker 3: Judge Smeltzer noticed that there had been an extensive investigation
Speaker 3: and found probable cause that Ezra had committed the crime,
Speaker 3: and he set the bond to two hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, with the condition that she neither leave Done
Speaker 3: County or Chippewa County. So the preliminary hearing that's going
Speaker 3: to be on Wednesday, the twenty fifth, the Dunn County
Speaker 3: Judge James Peterson found probable cause that Ezra committed first
Speaker 3: degree intentional homicide using a dangerous weapon and bound her
Speaker 3: over for trial. He stated that based on Ezra's mental
Speaker 3: state and statements that she made during her initial court
Speaker 3: appearance on the sixth April sixth, he had questions about
Speaker 3: whether she was competent to stand for trial, and he
Speaker 3: ordered that she undergo a competency evaluation now May twenty second,
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen the competency hearing. A status conference was held
Speaker 3: on that day, where Judge Peterson announced that, according to
Speaker 3: the evaluation report from the clinical psychologists and a consultant
Speaker 3: with the Wisconsin Forensic Unit, Ezra was mentally fit to
Speaker 3: stand trial on charges of first degree intentional homicide and
Speaker 3: use of a deadly weapon. In a letter to the
Speaker 3: Judge James Peterson, Ezra's defense attorney stated that she wanted
Speaker 3: to change her plea from not guilty to not guilty
Speaker 3: by reason of mental disease or defect. This change in
Speaker 3: plea occurred even after Ezra had already passed all of
Speaker 3: her mental evaluations. So the hearing, Yeah, it's like, wow,
Speaker 3: didn't you guys get this paperwork? Hi?
Speaker 2: You got the connectioncy evaluation?
Speaker 3: I doubt I would a judge look at that. You think, well,
Speaker 3: you're the judge and you're.
Speaker 4: Like, what is this flying?
Speaker 2: Soay right, and the prosecutor is going to bring that
Speaker 2: exam into the trial. So what the jury's going to say?
Speaker 3: Thank you? Yeah? Now, December third, that's the hearing. And
Speaker 3: during the court hearing, Judge Peterson denied motions to suppress
Speaker 3: audio recordings of Ezra's interview with authorities, determining that her
Speaker 3: March twenty third interview with detectives was voluntary and not
Speaker 3: an interrogation. The March twenty fourth interview with investigators was
Speaker 3: deemed to be an interrogation, but Ezra was able to
Speaker 3: leave it anytime. So now Ezra's trial was set to
Speaker 3: begin April second, Toy nineteen. She withdrew her plea of
Speaker 3: not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect. On
Speaker 3: February sixth, in a court hearing, Ezra's defense attorney stated
Speaker 3: that he expects her to testify at her trial. In April.
Speaker 3: Ezra told multiple people that she was assaulted by two
Speaker 3: people as a child, by a man in twenty seventeen
Speaker 3: and by another man in twenty eighteen, just one month
Speaker 3: before Alex was stabbed. Now supposedly, Ezra told Jason that
Speaker 3: one of his friends raped her in twenty seventeen. Jason
Speaker 3: went to the Oak Claire Police Department, who investigated the
Speaker 3: claim but did not charge the man. The Oak Claire
Speaker 3: Police Department investigated the twenty eighteen assault allegation against one
Speaker 3: of the men The man's lawyer said that if called
Speaker 3: as a witness in the trial, the man will invoke
Speaker 3: his right to remain silent and refuse to answer questions.
Speaker 3: The report filed against this man was false and was
Speaker 3: an attempt to cover up a consensual sexual relationship with
Speaker 3: a different man. Wow, sounds familiar. That's her game.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, you know she's got.
Speaker 3: One of them as the fall guy. Someone's going to
Speaker 3: be the fall guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the sexually graphic text messages between Ezra and the
Speaker 3: man accused of the assault proved that the encounter was consensual.
Speaker 3: The prosecutors alleged that Ezra was sexually involved with three
Speaker 3: minutes a time. In February of twenty eighteen, Ezra was
Speaker 3: struggling with guilt, regret, gender identity, a move from Eau
Speaker 3: Claire to Stanley. According to prosecutors, they want to introduce
Speaker 3: the assault report, Ezra's journal, and several of Ezra's text
Speaker 3: messages as evidence, claiming that these materials are highly relevant
Speaker 3: to playing contexts and motive and intent. Now, ezra defense
Speaker 3: attorney stated that Ezra's sexual history and prior sexual assaults
Speaker 3: are not relevant to whether she intended to kill Alex
Speaker 3: or if she did, whether she was acting in self defense.
Speaker 3: What do you think about that?
Speaker 4: I think she's full of shit.
Speaker 3: I do too, but I'd like this. The defense attorney like,
Speaker 3: how is her previous sexual history about well, unless well,
Speaker 3: obviously it's her game plan. So you know, it's like
Speaker 3: she she's got a fall guy. Because this is what
Speaker 3: happened before. There's a pattern developing your people. The trial
Speaker 3: began on October fourteenth, twenty nineteen, in dun County. It
Speaker 3: was supposed to be April second, but it got moved
Speaker 3: to later in the year October due to the defense
Speaker 3: receiving over twelve hundred pages of possible evidence from Alex's
Speaker 3: computer and letters written by Ezra while in jail. Yeah right.
Speaker 3: The Assistant Attorney General Richard dufour and dun County District
Speaker 3: Attorney Andrea n Adult state that Ezra intentionally lord Alex
Speaker 3: to dun County to murder him to rid herself of
Speaker 3: guilt and regret surrounding her situation.
Speaker 2: The defense, she wanted to be with Jason, right, she.
Speaker 3: Wants to be with Jason, and but then she gets
Speaker 3: pregnant by Jason. Sounds she's very confused. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: just her own sexual identity. Then she's, you know, got
Speaker 3: this taxic kind of draw magnetism to Jason. She gets pregnant,
Speaker 3: then she has an abortion so she can pursue Alex.
Speaker 4: Right, just the but yeah, there's Jameson's right.
Speaker 2: She did it to like get rid of Alex, like for.
Speaker 3: Feeling bad about the situation with her ad Jason. Maybe
Speaker 3: it sounds like how she's unable to keep shit straight,
Speaker 3: but she feels great guilt about what she may or
Speaker 3: may not have inflicted and you know a lot of
Speaker 3: mental stuff.
Speaker 2: Maybe right, maybe.
Speaker 3: Maybe, But the defense now their case, Ezra's defense attorney
Speaker 3: said that Alex took violent and aggressive acts against Ezra
Speaker 3: in the back seat of a vehicle that was stuck
Speaker 3: in the mud in a secluded rural area, a total
Speaker 3: self defense. That was the case now. The evidence drawings
Speaker 3: of knives and several of Alex's journals were considered crucial
Speaker 3: evidence in the case. The drawings were of a similar
Speaker 3: knife to what was used in the stabbing, which makes
Speaker 3: the drawings highly relevant to motive and intent to kill
Speaker 3: Alexander Woodworth. Noo said there is no evidence that suggests
Speaker 3: that Ezra was the artist of the drawings, only that
Speaker 3: the drawings were found with her belongings. Now, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's your journal, but these might not be your doodles.
Speaker 2: You might yeah, you might not have doodle in it.
Speaker 2: Oh noof somebody else is drawing knives in your journal.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, your private thoughts?
Speaker 4: Is that my journal?
Speaker 3: Ezra's defense team wanted over one hundred pages of Alex's
Speaker 3: journals and writings allowed into evidence. The journals had many
Speaker 3: references to cannibalism and some to death and suicide, according
Speaker 3: to the court documents. Ezra's defense team argued that she
Speaker 3: knew the contents of the journals, which prompted her to
Speaker 3: fight back when he attacked her. Now, prosecutors claim that
Speaker 3: Alex's references to cannibalism, death, and suicide were metaphors since
Speaker 3: he was a philosophy student that tended to teach philosophy someday, Okay,
Speaker 3: that doesn't make sense because I forgot how educated he
Speaker 3: is too.
Speaker 2: Don't know, because I'm thinking, like, oh, she knows he
Speaker 2: writes about cannibalism, so she's afraid, like he's going to
Speaker 2: kill her an eater or something like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like poetry, you know, high coups. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Ezra testified that she stabbed Alex because quote, I was
Speaker 3: afraid he was going to kill me unquote. She testified
Speaker 3: that she went to a nearby house for help, but
Speaker 3: did not mention that she had stabbed Alex and he
Speaker 3: was in the car. She also did not tell responding
Speaker 3: officers an emergency personnel about stabbing Alex either. A forensic
Speaker 3: scientist called to testify stated that Alex had more than
Speaker 3: likely lived up to thirty minutes after being stabbed. None
Speaker 3: of his wounds right, none of his wounds were immediately
Speaker 3: life threatening or to the spinal cord.
Speaker 2: How horrible is It's really sad, like he just bled
Speaker 2: out and you know what, probably could have danger, yeah,
Speaker 2: and for help and told somebody in the ambulance came.
Speaker 2: They might have been able to save him.
Speaker 3: Yes, thirty minutes are for sure. The verdict came in
Speaker 3: on November first, twenty nineteen. Ezrael was found guilty a
Speaker 3: first degree intentional homicide in the death of Alex. The
Speaker 3: jury deliberated for three hours and seventeen minutes.
Speaker 2: That's nothing.
Speaker 3: That is that's probably a bad sign if you're wanting
Speaker 3: to get off huh. Oh.
Speaker 2: It is, for sure. The longer they're deliberating, the better
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: I've always had her chances, I bet. Yeah. Sence, the
Speaker 3: sentence thing was on Friday, February seventh, twenty twenty. Oh, right,
Speaker 3: right before the pani before. Yes, yes, the month before.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, so yeah, months before the pandemic began.
Speaker 3: February seven, twenty twenty, Ezra was sentenced to life in prison,
Speaker 3: with the possibility to petition for extended supervision after fifty years. Jeez.
Speaker 3: So yeah, now, God, my goodness, that's the young You're
Speaker 3: in your seventies. I'd have to kind of scroll back
Speaker 3: and I can't remember her age twenties, said she was
Speaker 3: twenty yeah, yes, twenty wow. In December of twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: Ezra's attorneys filed emotion to vacate the conviction and order
Speaker 3: a new trial. The nearly eighty page motion cites ineffective
Speaker 3: assistance of council, that the jury was able to consider
Speaker 3: inadviscible and inflammatory character evidence, that the jury got incomplete
Speaker 3: and incorrect instructions about how to consider psychological evidence, and
Speaker 3: that the jury was exposed to the state's improper closing arguments.
Speaker 3: The motion site seeking a new trial and the Interests
Speaker 3: of Justice, saying the trial suffered from numerous errors. The
Speaker 3: request for a new trial was denied in November of
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. So you may ask whereas Ezra now.
Speaker 3: She is being held at the Techeetah Correctional Institute and
Speaker 3: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin.
Speaker 4: Oh, fon du Lac.
Speaker 3: She'll at least be there for fifty years and then
Speaker 3: she can petition.
Speaker 2: Damn, that's a long ass time.
Speaker 3: I mean, that really is. And that's like a you know,
Speaker 3: they always say, like, you know, when you make a
Speaker 3: dumb decision, it's a stupid short term just a choice
Speaker 3: for a long you'll have long term problems if you
Speaker 3: just deal with it and just be done with it.
Speaker 3: Boom boom.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm always amazed too, like when people decide to kill
Speaker 2: other people, like the stupid fucking reasons that they decide
Speaker 2: to do it. And the best part is like they
Speaker 2: don't they don't think it out. They don't they don't
Speaker 2: think like, oh they're not they're gonna get caught. Like
Speaker 2: there's nothing like you you can tell like she didn't
Speaker 2: think this through.
Speaker 4: There's no long game.
Speaker 2: I know, there's no longer game like she did long
Speaker 2: Like this self defense is going to be believed and
Speaker 2: you know and whatever or that she's going to be
Speaker 2: found to be mentally incompetent. You know, one of these
Speaker 2: two is going to carry her through. And you can't
Speaker 2: do fucking shit like this nowadays. I mean you you know.
Speaker 3: Just walk away your yourself will thank you a thousand
Speaker 3: times over.
Speaker 2: Like with all the forensics and everything that they study
Speaker 2: now like the angle of the knife and where you
Speaker 2: were standing in this bud blood splatter, they know exactly
Speaker 2: like everything that happened. And it's just it floors me that.
Speaker 3: People, Yeah, watch an episode at Dexter, right, I was
Speaker 3: just gonna say, like science there, science people science.
Speaker 2: It's amazing, like to me, like, you know, it's just
Speaker 2: you know, now I don't I really don't think you
Speaker 2: can really get away with killing people nowadays. And unless
Speaker 2: you like totally murdered like a stranger. That's my that's
Speaker 2: always been you know, like if I showed up in
Speaker 2: like Idaho somewhere and murdered someone and then came right
Speaker 2: home or something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like yes, like it's so yeah, very very random. But
Speaker 3: to make it like you're in a relationship with somebody
Speaker 3: and this is the best look. He's carved boy in
Speaker 3: my left arm. See how I can see it?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but I did it backwards like he oh no,
Speaker 2: he carved it backwards.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. Details, details, exactly details. You're
Speaker 3: not funny, but it's just so so over the top
Speaker 3: to deal with your fucking just deal with them. Then
Speaker 3: you still get to go on and be free. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and every okay, everybody sheds a tear and then we
Speaker 3: healed and we go on.
Speaker 2: So don't be a pretty comfortable situation. You just have
Speaker 2: to deal with it. And you know, maybe she was immature,
Speaker 2: you know, she's only twenty or whatever, but girl, really
Speaker 2: this was this was your out, like this was your
Speaker 2: grand scheme.
Speaker 3: This reminds me. Yeah, we ever see those pictures like
Speaker 3: spider webs. I'll be like, oh, this web was built
Speaker 3: by a spider who was drink alcohol, and it's just
Speaker 3: like this is like the heroine crack cannabis web that
Speaker 3: she's crazy. Girl, it's too much, you know, and to
Speaker 3: come out like I don't know, but here, I'll give
Speaker 3: you a name, you know, trying to throw them off.
Speaker 3: The scent. She did that, but you know you can
Speaker 3: get that from watching an episode of CSI, right, So,
Speaker 3: but yeah, that's what I got for us this week.
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