1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:02,839 Speaker 1: And we are back. 2 00:00:02,919 --> 00:00:04,879 Speaker 2: So we got some we got some cool things here. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,960 Still we're on the B tier train tonight. No eight tiers, 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,759 no S tiers. We're on that B train all night. 5 00:00:09,759 --> 00:00:13,199 Speaker 1: Baby. Have you seen all of Jessica Jones. 6 00:00:13,839 --> 00:00:16,679 Speaker 3: Yes, I've seen. Come on, Taylor, you know, I've seen 7 00:00:16,719 --> 00:00:19,079 all these Netflix things. The only thing I haven't seen 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,679 is uh iron shot? No, no, no, I was gonna say that, 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,719 what are the Marvel like one shots? 10 00:00:26,719 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 4: What are the was that what they were. 11 00:00:28,399 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Called special presentations? 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:30,359 Speaker 2: No? 13 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 4: They were I think they were called the one shots, right, 14 00:00:33,679 --> 00:00:34,479 I haven't seen those. 15 00:00:34,799 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't know about these one shots. 16 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,759 Speaker 3: And I haven't seen Ironheart, I guess because I came 17 00:00:38,799 --> 00:00:40,719 out today and I have not seen it yet. 18 00:00:41,079 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 4: But no, I've seen I saw all the Marvel Netflix things. 19 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, including iron Fists. 20 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,359 Speaker 1: Including iron Fist. That's fantastic. 21 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,079 Speaker 2: Uh So, then you have to be excited about the 22 00:00:51,119 --> 00:00:52,920 potential of a Jessica Jones revival. 23 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,039 Speaker 4: Not really, so you have not seen that. 24 00:00:58,039 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: That only seen season one only, and season one is great, 25 00:01:02,359 --> 00:01:05,920 and then it we're nose diving from there on out. 26 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,079 Speaker 4: It's not all bad. There's some good stuff to be found. 27 00:01:09,079 --> 00:01:09,400 In there. 28 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: I'm very excited that she is confirmed to be in 29 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,439 Daredevil season two, and that's just I just want her 30 00:01:16,439 --> 00:01:17,000 in other things. 31 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 4: I don't. 32 00:01:17,359 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: But I don't want another season of her show, at 33 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:21,719 least right now, for the next few years. 34 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,519 Speaker 4: I just I think we're I think I'm good. I 35 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:24,680 think I'm good with what we got. 36 00:01:25,599 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: Well not really, it was not great, but that's I 37 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,280 think that's part of the reason why I don't want 38 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,200 more of it. But yeah, I just want her popping 39 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,879 up in other things. I want her in Dared Devil. 40 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,640 I don't even know what the other thing that she 41 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,799 could pop in is. I guess, like you know, she 42 00:01:37,799 --> 00:01:39,560 could show up in a Spider Man movie or something like. 43 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,000 I'd be down for something like that, but mostly as 44 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:44,400 a character in Daredevil. And then if we ever, if 45 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,239 we get to other street level characters, which another room 46 00:01:47,359 --> 00:01:48,840 you might be bringing up, might be involved in that, 47 00:01:49,239 --> 00:01:51,120 I'm definitely down to see her again. If we ever 48 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,760 get like a Defender's like a team up type thing, 49 00:01:52,799 --> 00:01:54,959 put her on the roster for sure. But yeah, I 50 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,400 actually don't want another season of her show. I'm good 51 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,760 of I'm good on that right now. 52 00:02:01,879 --> 00:02:02,599 Speaker 1: That's fair. 53 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: At some point I would like to go back and 54 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:08,719 rewatch that second Well we watched the first season, then 55 00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:10,800 get into the second and third There's so I can 56 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:12,719 kind of get to know that character and what's going 57 00:02:12,759 --> 00:02:14,520 on a little bit more. And I also watch Defenders, 58 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:21,319 but getting another show for her specifically, I'm not over 59 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,719 the moon at this point due to my lack of 60 00:02:23,719 --> 00:02:26,680 familiarity with the character and with the narrative for this character. 61 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: It's a character. 62 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: That I would like to, you know, bring in and 63 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,159 work with Daredevil because I think Dared Devil's kind of 64 00:02:34,159 --> 00:02:36,120 that key in bringing in these other characters that were 65 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,919 introduced prior. So I think that's good, but at its corey, 66 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,599 I don't feel like I necessarily need it. And the 67 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,680 idea of these street level heroes becoming a little bit 68 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,879 more prominent now it's it's not really my cup of tea. 69 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:51,199 Speaker 1: Like I like Daredevil. 70 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: I had a great time doing that retro and then 71 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,879 doing the review with you guys, but there's something there. 72 00:02:56,719 --> 00:02:57,479 Speaker 1: That it's not the same. 73 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,319 Speaker 2: I didn't get as excited with, you know, I would 74 00:03:01,319 --> 00:03:03,159 have liked a little bit more Daredevil in Spider Man 75 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,319 No Way Home, but just getting Daredevil appearing and that 76 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:08,840 was I was over the moon. I really like Punisher 77 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,080 and Burnt Thal's portrayal of that character. I'm excited he's 78 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,479 getting a new show and she's gonna be popping in 79 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,199 Spider Man. But like, my excitement is through the roof 80 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,639 of the fact that he is going to be in 81 00:03:17,759 --> 00:03:20,759 Spider Man, and so I like that these street level 82 00:03:20,759 --> 00:03:23,319 heroes are getting a little bit more spotlight. But if 83 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:26,639 I'm getting another season of you know, a renewal of 84 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,000 Iron Fists coming back, I'm gonna be like, eh, you know, 85 00:03:29,199 --> 00:03:34,560 Luke Cage. I'd like to see those characters be side 86 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,120 by side with another hero that we're familiar with. And 87 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,360 it's funny, those street level characters and their shows Daredevil 88 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,639 or Echo even they just feel very different from your 89 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,400 Hawkeye and your Agatha TV shows. 90 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:49,879 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. 91 00:03:49,879 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: It's like, there's just Agatha has a very marvel kind 92 00:03:52,599 --> 00:03:54,520 of feel to it, and then when you go to Echo, 93 00:03:54,639 --> 00:03:56,919 it just doesn't feel marvel at all. It feels very 94 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,479 street level, but not a street level that I'm really 95 00:04:00,439 --> 00:04:02,479 engaged and drawn too, if that makes sense, Not. 96 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,599 Speaker 4: The kind of streets you typically patrol. 97 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: No, yeah, I think maybe the way to get around 98 00:04:08,879 --> 00:04:10,599 is like I would be down for when we talked 99 00:04:10,599 --> 00:04:12,080 about this way back in the day with those shows, 100 00:04:12,159 --> 00:04:14,000 is like Jessica Jones and Luke Cage always had really 101 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,800 great chemistry and wanted to see more of them, and 102 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,680 I feel like that was kind of underused. Really is 103 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,160 like the dynamic between them and in crossover stuff, like 104 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,319 he would pop in a couple times. I forget if 105 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,519 he popped into her show or if she just mostly 106 00:04:26,519 --> 00:04:29,279 popped into his, or no, wait, it was the opposite 107 00:04:29,639 --> 00:04:32,079 way around. I can't remember anymore than obviously Defenders, but 108 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,079 I feel like a team up show between them could 109 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,759 be cool and that would be more of like a 110 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,800 halfway to Defenders kind of thing. But I feel like, 111 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,360 weirdly Luke Cage my culture there is is like not 112 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,759 I don't think we've ever covered a rumor of him 113 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:46,600 popping in the MCU, Like, I don't feel like it's 114 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,480 ever been an interest for Marvel for some reason. I 115 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,480 don't know why that is, and maybe I'm missing some 116 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,199 of these rumors or haven't been on those weekly geeks 117 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,000 or something, but yeah, I just feel like that's a 118 00:04:55,079 --> 00:04:56,920 character who has not popped up in the rumors at all. 119 00:04:57,079 --> 00:04:58,839 Iron Fist, I feel like he's even popped up once 120 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,360 or twice, But yeah, I feel like he doesn't seem 121 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:04,319 to be part of the equation, so that I don't 122 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,720 know if that idea of a team up show with 123 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,399 him and Jessica Jones is really likely at all. 124 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,399 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that makes sense. You'll have to wait and 125 00:05:13,439 --> 00:05:14,560 see and see what they do. 126 00:05:16,199 --> 00:05:17,759 Speaker 2: I mean, they're part of this rumor is that the 127 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,600 studios are going to be focusing more on like the 128 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,399 ground industry, little stories similar to the Netflix shows, but 129 00:05:23,079 --> 00:05:26,439 on top of that, like the big events will be 130 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,199 saved for the film. So I think we were talking 131 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,560 about that before, where they're kind of maybe drifting away 132 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,160 from having some of these things and the TV shows 133 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:36,079 because that's the problem. You got to watch the show 134 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,639 to kind of understand what's going on in the movies, 135 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,319 and you don't you don't want that because not everyone's 136 00:05:41,319 --> 00:05:43,759 gonna be watching eight episodes of this one show and 137 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:46,759 then seven episodes of this other show and so forth. 138 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:47,639 Speaker 4: Yeah. 139 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they've really struggled to decide like how 140 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,560 much stakes the TV show should have, and then it 141 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,920 feels sometimes a little off when a show does have 142 00:05:56,959 --> 00:05:58,800 like way higher stakes than it feels like it should. 143 00:05:59,079 --> 00:06:01,000 It's like Miss Marvel, we shouldn't have got to some 144 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,519 of those levels we got to, like, let's like dial 145 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,279 it back a little bit. And so I think this 146 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:08,000 is good, but also that could mean that people are 147 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,800 like less excited by it now. You know, if we 148 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,360 just really buckled down and get some really great writers 149 00:06:13,399 --> 00:06:15,240 with really great scripts, like, people are gonna be interested 150 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,600 in that as like a different kind of flavor. And 151 00:06:17,639 --> 00:06:19,279 I think that's a good idea to go for, rather 152 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,319 than making it feel like, okay, like a discount version 153 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:24,920 of something you'd get in the movies, which is definitely 154 00:06:25,199 --> 00:06:26,360 what's been occurring somewhat. 155 00:06:26,399 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 4: So I think it makes sense the big events, keep 156 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:29,759 those for. 157 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:32,199 Speaker 3: The big screen and then like street level stuff for 158 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,720 the for the shows. I guess that like man, just 159 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,120 talking about that a bit more really throws up in 160 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,800 the air, like this Punisher like special feature that we've 161 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,040 got an announcement of now, it's like with him appearing 162 00:06:44,079 --> 00:06:46,279 like seemingly being becoming a bigger character, you know in 163 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:48,639 the Daredevil show, he's inspier Man in the movie, Like, 164 00:06:49,639 --> 00:06:50,319 what is their. 165 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,199 Speaker 4: Objective with that? 166 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,759 Speaker 3: Then like, do they want that to be a big 167 00:06:52,759 --> 00:06:54,560 deal that they wanted that to be just like a 168 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:56,680 thing you can skip, or they wanted to be something 169 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,519 that's like, Okay, it's not quite a show. You don't 170 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,319 have to spend as much time doing homework. You should 171 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,279 watch this before. Like, I feel like the messaging of 172 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:04,240 that is gonna be extremely interesting to see how much 173 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,839 they market that or how much they I don't know, 174 00:07:06,879 --> 00:07:09,600 incentivize us to watch that, like for the general audience, 175 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,480 if people are gonna be keeping up to day on that. 176 00:07:11,639 --> 00:07:12,759 Speaker 4: So we'll have to. 177 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: See, because that's kind of a weird anomally in terms 178 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,600 of like really making this delineation between what the. 179 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 4: Shows and the movies are. 180 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: But then you just have one special feature that's still 181 00:07:20,199 --> 00:07:22,040 in the works, So we'll have to wait and see 182 00:07:22,079 --> 00:07:24,680 what the I don't know how big and juicy that is. 183 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do not know too. 184 00:07:26,959 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: With the idea that in the Daredevil show and Born 185 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:36,279 Again you have Kingpin becoming Mayor of New York and 186 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:39,439 even the slight mention of Spider Man and that show, right, 187 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,680 it's gonna be interesting because we all know where Spider 188 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,720 Man left off and how he's just kind of incognito now, 189 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:47,920 and no one knows that Peter Parker is in his world, 190 00:07:47,959 --> 00:07:50,040 and so we're gonna get into Spider Man brand new 191 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,639 day and like off the hop or we're gonna just 192 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:56,120 have them like, oh, the new mayor of New York 193 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,000 City has dispatched his own like anti vigilante group that's 194 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:02,439 taken down vigilantes and whatnot, and then they were just 195 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,319 gonna have Peter just trying to hide out and survive 196 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:04,879 against that. 197 00:08:04,879 --> 00:08:06,879 Speaker 1: But people are be like, Okay, what's the context here? 198 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: They may not have watched Born Against, they don't know 199 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,319 all this backstory of this history of these cops that 200 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,959 are like pro Punisher that have been turned anti vigilante 201 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,600 by Kingpins. Is because it's a very woven narrative, I'd 202 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,120 say so. 203 00:08:22,079 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: And it's hard to envision that us as a viewer 204 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,759 would feel like that's all a threat to Spider Man, 205 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:29,800 a character who we've seen in these huge Avengers movies 206 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,000 and like fighting other superpowered characters and sometimes winning. It's 207 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,480 like it's hard to believe, SAOs, Yeah, exactly, hard to 208 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:41,039 believe that like some cops who like aren't that great 209 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:41,799 at their job. 210 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,519 Speaker 4: Are gonna be able to do anything or scare him 211 00:08:44,519 --> 00:08:44,720 at all. 212 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,879 Speaker 3: That maybe they'd I don't know, maybe that would incentivize 213 00:08:47,919 --> 00:08:49,639 them a bit to still like kind of work in 214 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,639 the shadows and not be super public. But I think 215 00:08:51,639 --> 00:08:54,200 that's kind of his goal anyway, because that was part 216 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,279 of the lesson of My Home, is like you get 217 00:08:56,279 --> 00:08:59,600 too attached to people and get too connected, and you know, 218 00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:02,679 then that is like puts a target on those people's back, right, So. 219 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, But then who knows. 220 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 3: Those characters are still appearing in this next movie, So 221 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,000 we'll have to see what they do with Spider Man 222 00:09:08,039 --> 00:09:09,600 if they just kind of want eighty something like the 223 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:10,159 lessons that. 224 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 4: We're meant to be learned there. But yeah, I don't know. 225 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: I'm really curious to see how they kind of inter 226 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,240 revolt Kingpin stuff with Spider Man, or if it's just 227 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,399 kind of hand waved and New York. New York's a 228 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:22,159 big place, you know, that's happening on like the north 229 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,279 side of town and Spider Man's over in the south 230 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,120 side of town, you know. 231 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, cool, Yeah, Well, anything else you want to add 232 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,480 to the Marvel rumors? 233 00:09:32,519 --> 00:09:35,399 Speaker 1: You're ready to move on, move can. 234 00:09:35,399 --> 00:09:40,759 Speaker 2: Move Okay, well, our next juicy topic here, devoid of Marvel. 235 00:09:40,879 --> 00:09:47,559 It's a blumhouse. They have purchased saw not the tool, 236 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,360 but the franchise. 237 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,799 Speaker 4: Maybe a tool as well to make some sets, you. 238 00:09:51,759 --> 00:09:53,919 Speaker 1: Know, Oh yeah, you need a few saws. 239 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:59,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, James wand Leo went out, are returning to help 240 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,000 with a fresh start. 241 00:10:04,039 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so some kind of legacy saw people coming back 242 00:10:08,799 --> 00:10:11,120 to maybe help out. But it's like, I guess that's kind 243 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,559 of the tricky part is we don't really know to 244 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,240 what extent, right, Is it just like a producer credit 245 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,919 and they put some money in there. Is it like 246 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,279 they redescript and give a feedback. Is it like they're 247 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:22,559 they're on set offering advice here and there. We'll have 248 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,919 to kind of wait and see. Or if it's just 249 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,799 the names, you know sometimes they do that, just throw 250 00:10:27,879 --> 00:10:30,159 some money, throw a bag of money at their feet, 251 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,120 and like then they're gonna put their name on the poster, 252 00:10:33,159 --> 00:10:35,240 like James waand it's like the guy who directed the 253 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,200 original on his back. 254 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 4: You know, that kind of hype cycle thing. So what 255 00:10:38,519 --> 00:10:39,840 point and see? I mean, I think this is a 256 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:40,480 lot of up in the air. 257 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,159 Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of Blowhouse stuff is very 258 00:10:42,799 --> 00:10:44,879 hitt and missed right now, and like they've been investing 259 00:10:44,919 --> 00:10:46,919 a ton of video games. They've been getting into gaming space, 260 00:10:46,919 --> 00:10:50,320 so it's an interesting time for that company, and so 261 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:53,519 obviously this is a big now that I think about it, actually, 262 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,320 I think that's. 263 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 4: Maybe got me a little more hype. 264 00:10:55,519 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 3: Like I'm curious to see if this turns into a 265 00:10:57,639 --> 00:10:59,720 game in some way too, because they got their rights 266 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,200 and I don't know if I sends to games or 267 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,799 how that really works and all that fine print of 268 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,320 these contracts and stuff. But yeah, they have been investing 269 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,080 a ton of games, and i'd be curious to see 270 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,679 if they, you know, invest in some weird, small indie studio, 271 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,679 because that's what they've been doing a lot of their games. 272 00:11:14,759 --> 00:11:16,960 Not like huge, big Triple A games, but just like smaller, 273 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,279 weird indie kind of stuff. I'd be down to that 274 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,360 get like a new Saw game in the mix there. 275 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,840 I don't know what that would look like exactly, but 276 00:11:23,919 --> 00:11:25,679 i'd be down to see something like that. So that's 277 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,720 kind of maybe a side to this I didn't really considered, 278 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,399 but it'd be cool. 279 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: But otherwise, you know, it's kind of just a wait 280 00:11:31,159 --> 00:11:31,960 and see situation. 281 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: I wish I could give them some more interesting commentary 282 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,600 on it, but like, really, until we get some I 283 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,399 don't know, some names of like people writing scripts, names 284 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,799 of people doing some directing, get some confirmation of characters, 285 00:11:42,799 --> 00:11:44,960 it's it's hard to feel one way or another about this. 286 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: And like, I love Saw, but we've also got so 287 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:48,919 much sauce. 288 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,639 Speaker 3: So like if if we never got to Saw them again, 289 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,120 like I'm fine, I'll live, and if we get another 290 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,919 one every year, like I'll go see them. But like 291 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,279 I you know, it's it's not earth shattering stuff. Even 292 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,679 when the most recent one came out and we all 293 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,440 really liked it, but like, you know, it's not like 294 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,519 a hit, a huge dent on like the Golden Geeks 295 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,200 or anything like that. 296 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 4: It's just like these moves are fun, kind of cheap thrills. 297 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:06,559 You know. 298 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: It's like they're popcorn movies and you know they are 299 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,519 what they are. But uh yeah, curious to see in 300 00:12:12,519 --> 00:12:14,080 like maybe three or four years when we finally get 301 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,399 another one with that, or it could be sooner, maybe 302 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,840 things have quicker production. 303 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: Cycles, but I'm curious to see what it is. I'll 304 00:12:19,399 --> 00:12:20,080 be there for sure. 305 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,919 Speaker 3: I'll check it out. I don't know, are you feeling 306 00:12:22,919 --> 00:12:24,600 any different me? Are you feeling any sort of way 307 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,960 about this or kind of just wait and see? 308 00:12:27,159 --> 00:12:34,159 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I I do love Saw, And whenever 309 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,399 people bring up Saw and how they're disgusted to buy. 310 00:12:36,279 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: And whatnot, I'm always defending the fact that, hey. 311 00:12:38,039 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 2: It's actually got like a moral story involved here, and 312 00:12:41,759 --> 00:12:44,919 it is obviously like torture porn, but there's there is 313 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,320 an interesting narrative involved there, there's more to it. Yeah, 314 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,759 So getting that last one was just a delight and 315 00:12:53,799 --> 00:12:55,840 it was a great palate cleanser after what we had 316 00:12:55,879 --> 00:13:00,159 before with uh so I speak for the dead. The 317 00:13:00,159 --> 00:13:02,360 one Jigsaw, I can't if it jigs are a spiral? 318 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,759 Which one came last Book of Saw? I think spiral 319 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:05,480 was the last. 320 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: One spiral the Book of Saw. And then yeah, what 321 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:09,639 was the most recent one called? Didn't even have a title? 322 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 4: Was there just eleven? I can't even remember anymore? 323 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,759 Speaker 2: My god, I think it was just yeah, the numeracle 324 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,039 roman numeral, Yeah. 325 00:13:15,759 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 4: Jesus, where are we at? And Saw movies? I think 326 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,120 it was ten, right, I think. 327 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:19,759 Speaker 1: It was ten? Yeah? 328 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: Uh and so yeah, they announced they were doing another 329 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,960 one and that one just kind of just fall into 330 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:30,679 the wayside. But the idea of doing a a fresh start. 331 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,799 Speaker 1: So that's one of the other rumors here. 332 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,399 Speaker 2: No news on their exact roles, obviously, we talked about 333 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,759 the writing, producing, et cetera. But the rumor that this 334 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,759 is a reboot, Oh, that just feels so exhausting because 335 00:13:42,759 --> 00:13:46,519 you've you've built up this whole world and I guess 336 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,919 you you run out of possibilities because these characters are 337 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,639 all uh, I mean, you have them doing their own 338 00:13:53,639 --> 00:13:56,679 spinoff anthology kind of journeys, even though it's all part 339 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,080 of the main game that was established in those earlier 340 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,600 Saw films and everything is tied to Jake Saw. Uh 341 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,279 So I don't know, you can't really run with anthology 342 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,120 stories anymore. You kind of have to do a reboot, 343 00:14:08,159 --> 00:14:09,559 even though it doesn't excite me as much. 344 00:14:10,159 --> 00:14:12,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I I suit you mean, I guess I just 345 00:14:12,159 --> 00:14:15,600 feel like with you know, John Kramer, like this Sky's 346 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,600 actors get a little bit older, you know, like how 347 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,240 long is he able to do this kind of thing? 348 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:22,039 And like if you don't have him, what do you have? 349 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,320 Like what's the point of continuing on? Like the other 350 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,799 characters who like could be the disciple type that we've 351 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:29,000 always talked about, Like maybe the best path is to 352 00:14:29,799 --> 00:14:31,480 go with the reboot. And yeah, whether or not, they 353 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,360 kind of aim for the same type of character there, 354 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,879 and they cast someone who's going to play that character 355 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,679 for years, Like, you know, they got to get that 356 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:38,279 casting right. 357 00:14:38,279 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 4: They have to nail it. 358 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:42,159 Speaker 3: Do you think a lot of people, Oh God, give 359 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,480 me that, you know, put that on the dock at 360 00:14:44,519 --> 00:14:46,799 someone like that will be a draft. We have to 361 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:51,279 do casting all the characters. Yeah, so I'll save my 362 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,840 thoughts thing, give me some time of pre prepare for that. 363 00:14:53,879 --> 00:14:56,919 I'll write that down. We should definitely do that in 364 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,240 the next couple of years, you know, write that down. 365 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,799 But yeah, I think, you know, there's a lot of 366 00:15:01,799 --> 00:15:03,679 good potential there. I just feel like, you know, when 367 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,320 you get to a movie like these movies have so 368 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:08,120 many twists and different timelines and things are happening out 369 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,200 of order and stuff. At some point it becomes a 370 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:13,759 jigsaw puzzle that is impossible to put together because the 371 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:16,039 pieces don't fit and there's too many and this piece 372 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,639 is like ten times bigger than this one. This one's 373 00:15:17,679 --> 00:15:20,080 small and like on a slant and like doesn't and 374 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,799 they just don't fit together. It doesn't make any sense, 375 00:15:21,799 --> 00:15:24,279 and so to build off of that, it feels like 376 00:15:24,279 --> 00:15:26,960 a losing battle. And like when sometimes these other one 377 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,840 like the Spiral which we got, just felt like so 378 00:15:29,879 --> 00:15:32,720 unconnected from the other movies, like almost entirely right like, 379 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,600 because then I feel like that's kind of at that point, 380 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,600 why don't you just reboot? 381 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:37,799 Speaker 4: If you're already in a point where. 382 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: Things are so messy and convoluted that it makes more 383 00:15:39,879 --> 00:15:42,759 sense to just have a movie kind of almost irrelevantly 384 00:15:42,759 --> 00:15:45,360 connected to the other ones. I feel like, yeah, maybe 385 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:47,480 it's maybe it's time for a reboot. And honestly, I 386 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,039 don't think. I don't think my high level like changes. 387 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 4: Really one way or the other. Uh what we do there? 388 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: I feel like the potential Saw is kind of still there, 389 00:15:54,879 --> 00:15:56,759 So I'm open to the reboot. 390 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:57,799 Speaker 4: Realm of things. 391 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,159 Speaker 2: Cool, yeah to Uh, it's just so many, so many 392 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:06,480 freaking movies that we've we've checked off so far, my goodness, 393 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,759 and it's gonna be hard to top that that original 394 00:16:09,799 --> 00:16:12,679 one just in the bathroom and everything we got there. 395 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I mean I hope we don't get 396 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,759 like a remake of that for a rebate. I hope 397 00:16:16,759 --> 00:16:18,720 we get something fresh and new, but still like you know, 398 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,879 taking some of those fun ideas. It'll be hard to 399 00:16:20,879 --> 00:16:22,879 pull off a move moment like that again though, we're 400 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:25,080 like a body in the room, you know, wakes up at. 401 00:16:25,039 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 4: Some point like I don't know, we can expecting it. 402 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, but a new new era you know of 403 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,600 soft fans don't know what that twist perhaps, so. 404 00:16:34,639 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. 405 00:16:35,879 --> 00:16:38,399 Speaker 2: Next generation, that's the thing called it saw the next 406 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,399 gen Magdalorin and Grogu generation