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Speaker 2: Okay, well where this all started. So I wasn't really
Speaker 2: ever into Sasquatch, you know, I was. I was always
Speaker 2: open minded to the existence of Saska because I've had
Speaker 2: some really strange experiences in my life that kind of
Speaker 2: opened my mind to.
Speaker 3: Just about anything as possible. I guess after you've seen
Speaker 3: some I've seen.
Speaker 2: But I had all the same doubts with sasquatch. You
Speaker 2: know that everybody has like, oh, nobody's ever killed one,
Speaker 2: you know, all the people in the woods now with
Speaker 2: game cameras and.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But I was open minded sasquatch, and I've always been
Speaker 2: entertained by the cryptic, cryptid stuff on YouTube and what
Speaker 2: have you. So I was watching the sasquatch stuff on YouTube,
Speaker 2: and so started getting fed more and more sasquatch stuff,
Speaker 2: and then I came across Todd's Standing's work of the
Speaker 2: photographs of their faces.
Speaker 3: You know, and I had to wonder, you know, it's
Speaker 3: this legit, you know.
Speaker 2: And the more I dug into Todd Standing, the more
Speaker 2: I started to think, maybe these are the real deal man,
Speaker 2: Maybe this guy did capture actual face as a sasquatch.
Speaker 2: So that was kind of where my head was as
Speaker 2: I was planning this trip to the mountains to do
Speaker 2: mining for geodes and you know, crystals and agates.
Speaker 3: There's a spot deep deep in the mountains.
Speaker 2: Right by the Oregon Washington border, near the coast, and
Speaker 2: it's just a place friends and I go and dig
Speaker 2: for rocks. We're just kind of rock hounts, just hobby
Speaker 2: amateur rock Hounts, and so I was up there, and
Speaker 2: I was all alone this day. My dad and my
Speaker 2: son had been up there earlier, but they left because
Speaker 2: they didn't want to sit there and watch me run power.
Speaker 3: Tools and break rocks for hours, you know.
Speaker 2: So I was up there alone and just got kind
Speaker 2: of burned out on what I was doing, struggling to
Speaker 2: get this rock out. Spent hours trying to get this
Speaker 2: rock out, and that rock is still there, and the
Speaker 2: thought of sasquatch was in the back of my mind,
Speaker 2: like kept coming up, you know, just thinking about sasquatch
Speaker 2: from all this stuff I'd been watching prior to coming up.
Speaker 3: And so I said, screw this, I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Climb up to that viewpoint up there, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to see if I can find.
Speaker 3: A sasquatch, you know, just just to take a break.
Speaker 2: Just curiosity, just bored them whatever, you know, but just
Speaker 2: this weird thought like I'm going to go up there
Speaker 2: and just see if I can find one. Never expected
Speaker 2: actually find one, you know, it was just this weird
Speaker 2: whim And so I knew, you know, on the way up,
Speaker 2: climbing up there, I would stop and look for rocks
Speaker 2: and dig around and so I had a tool in
Speaker 2: my hand, and you know, I was climbing the hill,
Speaker 2: flipping rocks over, digging through the gravel, digging through the dirt.
Speaker 2: And it's kind of a steep embankment that goes up
Speaker 2: out of this sort of rock quarry crater.
Speaker 3: In the side of the mountain, and so climbed up there.
Speaker 2: You know, it's about, oh, I don't know, forty feet elevation,
Speaker 2: game spaced out over you know, thirty forty fifty yards
Speaker 2: or something. Not some crazy climb by any means, but
Speaker 2: kind of steep and kind of treacherous. And then at
Speaker 2: the very top, you're on this cliff that looks down
Speaker 2: into this valley. So it's a cool viewpoint. You could
Speaker 2: see mountains and rivers and you can see.
Speaker 3: A lot from up there. And so I climb up.
Speaker 2: There, and I get to the very top and I'm
Speaker 2: scanning the valley for I'm talking a matter of seconds,
Speaker 2: like I hadn't spent any time up there, and I'm
Speaker 2: looking at something and I'm laughing in my head, like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's funny.
Speaker 3: There's a sasquat right there.
Speaker 2: Thinking it was a shadow of stump, thinking it was,
Speaker 2: you know, something that just resembled the sasquad and I'm
Speaker 2: staring at it, and I mean it was just like
Speaker 2: I was dumbfounded as I start seeing this walk, and
Speaker 2: I'm just like, what am I looking at? And you know,
Speaker 2: and I've seen bears more times than I can count
Speaker 2: in the woods, and I have.
Speaker 3: Really good eye sight, you know, I've as.
Speaker 2: Good as anybody can have ice sight, and I just
Speaker 2: immediately knew what I was looking at wasn't a bear.
Speaker 3: It definitely wasn't a person.
Speaker 2: This valley is really rural, really inaccessible, and I later
Speaker 2: learned firsthand just how hard it is to get into
Speaker 2: this valley. And so I'm watching this scene walk just
Speaker 2: like taking a casual stroll through these little trees, like
Speaker 2: Christmas tree size trees that have been replanted from logging,
Speaker 2: and I'm just shocked, you know, staring at this thing,
Speaker 2: just questioning my sanity, Like, I mean, who says I'm
Speaker 2: going to climb up to a viewpoint and see if
Speaker 2: I can spot a sasquatch And then they go and
Speaker 2: then within seconds there staring at one. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was just so bizarre, so freaking bizarre. And so I'm
Speaker 2: watching the single walk and I immediately, I'm digging from
Speaker 2: my cell phone nothing but rocks.
Speaker 3: All my pockets are full of rocks from climbing up there.
Speaker 2: You tend to just pick up anything that might be
Speaker 2: something cool when you're a rockounder.
Speaker 3: At least that's the way I do it.
Speaker 2: I wash them later and decide if this is worth keeping.
Speaker 2: But as you're hunting, you just kind of grab them.
Speaker 2: If they look like they have possibilities of being something cool,
Speaker 2: you grab them. And so my pockets were stuffed with rocks,
Speaker 2: and you know, no phone. Realized my phone's in my truck,
Speaker 2: and I could see my truck from where I was at,
Speaker 2: you know, it was back down at the bottom of
Speaker 2: this cliff. I just climbed and then it was about,
Speaker 2: I don't know, fifty yards across this gravel lot, parked
Speaker 2: over at the spot where I was initially drilling and
Speaker 2: trying to get.
Speaker 3: That rock out.
Speaker 2: And so I didn't know what to do because I'm
Speaker 2: staring at a sasquatch, don't have my phone, don't have
Speaker 2: a camera on.
Speaker 3: Me, and I didn't know.
Speaker 2: So I'm just completely like unsure what I should do here,
Speaker 2: you know, Should I run and fetch the phone, should
Speaker 2: I just stay here and watch this thing. And I
Speaker 2: have I've had some incidents in the past that I
Speaker 2: wasn't able to capture on film that have just haunted
Speaker 2: me for years that I screwed those up and didn't capture.
Speaker 2: And so I was like, no way, at what's the
Speaker 2: point of even staring at this scene If I can't
Speaker 2: prove it, nobody's gonna blieve me.
Speaker 3: So I just bomb down this hill.
Speaker 2: Jumping, skipping, falling, tripping, hit the asphalt or the gravel,
Speaker 2: and just beline in a sprint straight to my truck,
Speaker 2: open the door, get the phone. I turned to start running,
Speaker 2: but then I realized I got all these freaking rocks
Speaker 2: in my buckets in there just slow me down, and
Speaker 2: so I empty all the rocks out pocket, then sprint
Speaker 2: back across this thing, climb up the cliff, you know,
Speaker 2: as fast as I could get back to my position,
Speaker 2: and immediately I'm looking looking, I can't find it, can't
Speaker 2: find it, you know, and I'm just.
Speaker 3: Oh, no, it's gone. And that was pretty uh.
Speaker 2: I mean, my heart sank when I realized I might
Speaker 2: have screwed up by taking my eyes off of this scene.
Speaker 3: But then I found it.
Speaker 2: Then I saw this little black speck down there, and
Speaker 2: it had changed because it wasn't walking anymore.
Speaker 3: It was I couldn't tell.
Speaker 2: If it was sitting, kneeling or what, but it was
Speaker 2: definitely it because I could see the movement and got
Speaker 2: my phone out and started filming it. And you can
Speaker 2: even see on that video click film, like you can
Speaker 2: hear me just just dying out of breath from the
Speaker 2: run and the climb that I just did. And I'm
Speaker 2: I film it for a while, but it's at a
Speaker 2: distance where this phone just didn't doom in very well.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not great footage, it's not even good footage,
Speaker 2: but it's footage.
Speaker 3: And so I just sat there it.
Speaker 2: I moved around a little bit, you know, felt it
Speaker 2: from different perspectives. But what kept happening because I was
Speaker 2: so high up that these clouds are constantly coming in
Speaker 2: this area is a constant struggle with clouds and fog.
Speaker 3: It's just they.
Speaker 2: Come and they go, They come and they go. It'll
Speaker 2: be super foggy, and then ten minutes later it's not foggy.
Speaker 2: Then you know, the clouds will go up and you'll
Speaker 2: be underneath them, and then the clouds.
Speaker 3: Will drop below you, and you'll be above them. You know,
Speaker 3: it'll be.
Speaker 2: Blue skies and sunny, but you'll look across the mountains
Speaker 2: and all you can see is clouds, like you're in
Speaker 2: an airplane. It's just this constant fluctuation of weather up
Speaker 2: there like that.
Speaker 3: And so that's kind of what kept happening.
Speaker 2: The clouds would come in to steal my view, and
Speaker 2: so I'd shut the phone off and kind of wait there.
Speaker 2: Then the cloud would lift, and then I'd keep filming.
Speaker 2: But I probably have, oh, I don't know, forty five
Speaker 2: minutes of footage of this thing spaced out across I
Speaker 2: don't know, ten different videos.
Speaker 3: They're all kind of short videos, just.
Speaker 2: Because there was no point to film if all I
Speaker 2: could see was fog, you know. But I was up
Speaker 2: there for a while watching this thing, and once it
Speaker 2: hunkered down, I couldn't tell what it was doing, but
Speaker 2: I would see what looked like an arm raise up
Speaker 2: every now and then, and so I just kept filming.
Speaker 2: I even actually was doing like whoops and making noise,
Speaker 2: trying to like spook it because I wanted it to
Speaker 2: get up and walk, because I wanted footage of it walking.
Speaker 2: But it didn't seem to give a rat about any
Speaker 2: of the noise I was making or anything, and I
Speaker 2: know it could hear me, really does echo in that canyon.
Speaker 3: And I did have this weird I don't know, like.
Speaker 2: Since this thing knew I was watching it, that it
Speaker 2: knew I was filming.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, you know, I mean I did.
Speaker 2: I had this just it was almost like not that
Speaker 2: I could sense that I belie it was like I
Speaker 2: knew I knew it knew that.
Speaker 3: I can't explain it. It's really weird.
Speaker 2: And then you know, like that went on for a
Speaker 2: while until eventually the clouds came in and just completely
Speaker 2: blocked the view till there was nothing I could see,
Speaker 2: and my wife, who was at my parents' house, my
Speaker 2: parents are about an hour away, forty minutes away from
Speaker 2: where I was at.
Speaker 3: Everybody was waiting on me to get back for dinner.
Speaker 2: And I've been out there way longer than I'd promised
Speaker 2: already at that point, and so you know, once.
Speaker 3: The clouds completely blocked out my view and I just
Speaker 3: had to go.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of where that first encounter happened. And
Speaker 2: that's the story.
Speaker 3: So are you still there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I just let you go. So
Speaker 1: I got questions for you.
Speaker 3: So sure.
Speaker 1: The main question I think most people are thinking is
Speaker 1: where can we see this forty to fifty minutes?
Speaker 3: Oh, how can you see it?
Speaker 1: Is it possible to see it?
Speaker 2: I guess, well, yeah, I have the footage. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: haven't posted anything yet. I've been accumulating massive amounts of video.
Speaker 2: I got a pile of micro is SD cards, and
Speaker 2: I have tons of video from the research.
Speaker 3: I've been doing. And I've been kind of waiting.
Speaker 2: To release everything at once because my hope was to
Speaker 2: get like a phenomenal piece of footage that we've kind
Speaker 2: of like propelled my work, you know, like go viral
Speaker 2: or whatever, you know, and then through that piece of footage,
Speaker 2: I was hoping to steer anybody wanting to see more
Speaker 2: to my what will be a YouTube channel where I
Speaker 2: would have all this stuff. I'm horribly, horribly inept when
Speaker 2: it comes to tech. I've never even said up a Facebook,
Speaker 2: I you know, never was into any of that stuff
Speaker 2: back you know, MySpace or you know, any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: I just didn't care about it. And so I'm so
Speaker 2: behind and out of touch with how you do all
Speaker 2: that how you post things, you know, Like I recently
Speaker 2: downloaded Twitter x or whatever for the first time of
Speaker 2: my life, and I barely even got on it, but
Speaker 2: maybe just a few minutes here and there.
Speaker 3: So that's the problem.
Speaker 2: Like I don't want to just give my footage away
Speaker 2: and just let the world have it, you know, So
Speaker 2: I've kind of been holding onto it.
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, I do plan on making it public.
Speaker 1: I think it's smart that you you put the work
Speaker 1: in the setup a channel so that all your stuff
Speaker 1: can be in one area and you don't just put
Speaker 1: it up on Facebook and then everyone posts it everywhere. Right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a good thing about YouTube now is
Speaker 1: as long as you have like a email address that
Speaker 1: you can access, you can log into, you can go
Speaker 1: to YouTube, and you can set up a channel relatively easy.
Speaker 1: It's just having that email address that you use to
Speaker 1: set it up with. Yeah much it the time.
Speaker 3: I just bought a laptop.
Speaker 2: It like two three days ago, and I had one already,
Speaker 2: but it was an older one that had been collecting
Speaker 2: desk for so long that the batteries went bad on it, and.
Speaker 3: So I just bought this laptop.
Speaker 2: Now I need to get somebody to help me, you know,
Speaker 2: get everything set up and really with the footage I've
Speaker 2: accumulated so far, as far as the research that I've
Speaker 2: done following this sighting, I have some pretty amazing, like
Speaker 2: compared to what I'm seeing, a lot of these other
Speaker 2: documentaries have really you know, these guys that are out
Speaker 2: in the woods, you know, making documentaries about their their
Speaker 2: SaaS squatch hunting.
Speaker 1: Big for society, who will be right back after these messages,
Speaker 1: And all.
Speaker 2: I'm really seeing is some people sitting around a campfire,
Speaker 2: walking around the woods talking about stuff. It's like really like,
Speaker 2: I was researching for like three weeks and I had
Speaker 2: found two insanely awesome sites. Are a bunch of upside
Speaker 2: down trees? Are You're probably familiar with what an upside
Speaker 2: down tree?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. You said this Oregon Washington border that
Speaker 1: this happened.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't like to say exactly where it happened,
Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, that just gives people an idea of
Speaker 2: roughly where it is.
Speaker 3: It's close to the coast and it's close to.
Speaker 2: The border, which is the Columbia River, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's awesome. Yeah, there's so many places over there
Speaker 1: that that could be that would be absolutely incredible that
Speaker 1: just I know.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, this area is so just mind blowingly meant
Speaker 2: for something like a sasquatch. As soon as I started
Speaker 2: doing the research, like looking into this area, I just
Speaker 2: was blown.
Speaker 3: Away by the amount of berries.
Speaker 2: That was like one of the first things I noticed,
Speaker 2: So many species of berries, like every different kind of
Speaker 2: salmon berry, every different kind of BlackBerry. It just and
Speaker 2: then wild grapes and wild strawberries. And what was interesting
Speaker 2: this fall, because I was really paying attention to it,
Speaker 2: was as the berries are coming to an end, and
Speaker 2: still I was just up there recently and I was
Speaker 2: still finding berries that had just ripened perfectly edible. But
Speaker 2: the explosion of wild mushrooms that I've been documenting, so
Speaker 2: it's almost like these creatures, you know, they yeah, they
Speaker 2: lose their berries, but then immediately they just have this
Speaker 2: massive abundant of mushrooms. And I don't know that they
Speaker 2: eat mushrooms, but I don't know why they wouldn't. But
Speaker 2: and then also like a few months ago, I was
Speaker 2: up in that area and I came across this river
Speaker 2: area with this deep pool, and a fish jumped and
Speaker 2: I caught this picture on my body cam. I actually
Speaker 2: didn't even see the fish. It was later when I
Speaker 2: was looking at the footage I caught this fish fully
Speaker 2: jumping out of the water on my body cam. But
Speaker 2: the fish jump, so I went to go see and
Speaker 2: I couldn't even count how many big steelhead were bedded
Speaker 2: down in this small creek, you know, just just this
Speaker 2: area is just abundant with food. And they also have
Speaker 2: the option of going on a short walk, short walk
Speaker 2: to them, and they're at the shores of the Clumbia
Speaker 2: River where you can just.
Speaker 3: Dig and dig and dig, and you can.
Speaker 2: Fill buckets with clams, freshwater clams. They're they're horrible. I've
Speaker 2: tried to eat them. They're they're they're not good. But
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that the sasquatch wouldn't enjoy them,
Speaker 2: you know, but it's food sources like that are everywhere,
Speaker 2: you know, in the UH. Something we didn't get into
Speaker 2: about the when I saw the sasquatch. I came back
Speaker 2: the next day because we had better weather, and UH,
Speaker 2: I drove up climb back up to the viewpoint, and
Speaker 2: immediately I had binoculars this time, and I immediately spot
Speaker 2: exactly where the sasquatch was, and there was a stump there,
Speaker 2: a big old stump. I couldn't even tell there was
Speaker 2: a stump there the day before. I could just see
Speaker 2: the sasquatch, which tells me its body is pretty big,
Speaker 2: because it was completely blocking out the existence of this stump.
Speaker 2: And so then I started looking around at all these
Speaker 2: other stumps in this valley, and every stump in this
Speaker 2: valley has been tore apart, has been dug through, because
Speaker 2: there's particles and pieces of the.
Speaker 3: Stump strewn about all around these stumps.
Speaker 2: Because you can see this red duff of the the
Speaker 2: innerds of the stump, and so that's, you know, to me, Okay,
Speaker 2: So they're eating grubs out of the stumps, you know,
Speaker 2: that's always available that time of year when the bugs
Speaker 2: are hatching, and that's you know, a pretty good protein
Speaker 2: source right there.
Speaker 3: And then they got the clams.
Speaker 2: Which is a guaranteed no effort meal right there, you know.
Speaker 2: And so they just things like that, and then there
Speaker 2: you obviously there's deer, and there's elk, and there's you know,
Speaker 2: I got a video one evening of a porcupine walking
Speaker 2: right by me, you know, which is all of that
Speaker 2: is edible. You know, and uh, I don't know that
Speaker 2: they would eat a porcupine, but they're probably smart enough
Speaker 2: to figure out a way to get past those quills,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, there's just so much just food,
Speaker 2: food galore. I mean, it's really just a sasquatch utopia
Speaker 2: up there, and there's a lot of there and bear
Speaker 2: you know, I hear a lot of stuff that you know,
Speaker 2: sasquatch habitats are going to be, you know, really favorable
Speaker 2: to bears and vice versa, and so that kind of
Speaker 2: makes sense, you know that they would both be omnivores,
Speaker 2: you know, and they'd eat some of the same stuff
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 3: Do you want me to get into some of my
Speaker 3: discoveries or do you have questions for me?
Speaker 1: I was actually just gonna kinda put us towards that direction. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you don't mind sharing other things you may have
Speaker 1: captured on video, or you said you have some discoveries
Speaker 1: as well, that would be fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Actually, this is something that I guess that
Speaker 2: we can talk about. Coincidentally, this morning, when I went
Speaker 2: to check my emails, you had responded, and I also
Speaker 2: got a response from this DNA company that I never
Speaker 2: in a million years, thought was gonna get.
Speaker 3: Because I am confident that I.
Speaker 2: Have two different pieces of evidence that are just going
Speaker 2: to be covered in Sasquats DNA, and I guess I
Speaker 2: could explain that story. So when I found the Sasquatch,
Speaker 2: you know, I was hunting rocks, digging agots out of
Speaker 2: the mountain, and I see the Sasquatch, so I didn't
Speaker 2: care about rocks anymore. I just wanted to investigate sasquats.
Speaker 2: You know about a lot of gear, a lot of equipment,
Speaker 2: a lot of everything, And started trying to figure out
Speaker 2: how to get in and out of this valley, and
Speaker 2: you know, trying to investigate some of these rivers up
Speaker 2: there that are really hard to get to. This is
Speaker 2: all real rural areas. I started investigating sasquatchs and I
Speaker 2: start finding my way into the bottom of these canyons,
Speaker 2: in the bottom of these valleys, and I'm alone nine
Speaker 2: percent of the time. I'm alone out there, which is
Speaker 2: a little nerve wracking. Especially when I first started doing it,
Speaker 2: it was more nerve racking. I've gotten a little more
Speaker 2: used to it after sleeping alone out there in.
Speaker 3: The woods and a tent and doing a.
Speaker 2: Bunch of stuff alone kind of if it's something you've
Speaker 2: never done before. You know, at first it's a little intimidating,
Speaker 2: you know, especially when you know that there's sasquatches out there,
Speaker 2: because that you know, it wasn't that long ago that
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have even had that fear really going out
Speaker 2: in the woods by myself of a sasquatch. But now
Speaker 2: that I know that they're actually out there, you know,
Speaker 2: that's kind of a you're looking over your shoulder a
Speaker 2: bit more, you know, when you're all alone out there,
Speaker 2: you got bears and cougar's, you know, And now I
Speaker 2: know that there are sasquatches. So anyway, as I'm getting
Speaker 2: into these valleys, getting into these canyons, I start finding
Speaker 2: rocks like I just never in a million years thought
Speaker 2: I would ever find. I'm talking AGTs bigger than my head.
Speaker 2: I just hiked out a seventy seven pound blue agate
Speaker 2: the other day, just this huge, just beautiful agate, and
Speaker 2: I'm finding all these different kinds of rocks like opals
Speaker 2: and crazy crystals and just I mean it's like insane,
Speaker 2: like I just couldn't even believe what I was finding.
Speaker 2: And I'm not out there looking for rocks, but then
Speaker 2: I'm finding them.
Speaker 3: So I'm getting these backpack loads of.
Speaker 2: Rocks, you know, and hiking freaking rocks out of canyons
Speaker 2: is a nightmare, and I've been doing a lot of it.
Speaker 2: And so I started showing these rocks to other friends
Speaker 2: of mine and talking about them, you know. And my
Speaker 2: older brother's friends husband is a geologist. You know, it's
Speaker 2: a weird connection to this geologists. Actually his girlfriend's best
Speaker 2: friend's husband, and I've met him at some parties at
Speaker 2: their house a couple times and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Cool guy.
Speaker 2: He's a geol just and I sent him some pictures
Speaker 2: of some of the rocks, just to identify what some
Speaker 2: of these rocks were. And you know, he told me
Speaker 2: what he could you know by looking at the pictures.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's probably this, probably that, you know.
Speaker 2: And he got excited and wanted to come out and
Speaker 2: wanted to see where I'm getting these rocks. He's not
Speaker 2: a sasquatch guy, He's a rock guy. And so I
Speaker 2: agreed to take him out.
Speaker 3: On a journey.
Speaker 2: And I warned him this pretty brutal, you know, And
Speaker 2: I took him through a twelve and a half hour
Speaker 2: hike but on the way to the to do the hike,
Speaker 2: it was probably.
Speaker 3: Like six am. This is, you know, months ago as daylight.
Speaker 2: At six am, and we're entering my area and I
Speaker 2: see three new huge arch trees, giant tree bends, and
Speaker 2: these are impossible to ever blame on mother nature. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sure people would try to blame them on mother nature,
Speaker 2: but I will just laugh at him. I do a
Speaker 2: lot of tree removal. One thing I know is trees
Speaker 2: in how they behave when they break and fall.
Speaker 3: And get cut down.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm as close to an expert on the
Speaker 2: subject as really anybody could.
Speaker 3: Ever claim to be.
Speaker 2: And so these tree bends are just monstrously, just insanely
Speaker 2: awesome for me because I was wondering at this time
Speaker 2: period if the sasquatch had moved out of that area
Speaker 2: because hunting.
Speaker 3: Season was coming in, and I had just kind of.
Speaker 2: Thought, yeah, they probably they probably take off from here
Speaker 2: and go somewhere else because of all the hunters that
Speaker 2: come up in here. And this particular area where these
Speaker 2: tree bends is one of the first places I started investigating,
Speaker 2: and I called it tree break Alley.
Speaker 3: That was just a nickname I gave it.
Speaker 2: Because it was the first place I just started finding
Speaker 2: tree breaks all over the place, and so it was
Speaker 2: just kind of ironic that that's the area where they
Speaker 2: put these huge bends, giant bends, and like, I almost
Speaker 2: took it as it was a message to me directly,
Speaker 2: you know, like you think we're gonna get chased off
Speaker 2: by hunters.
Speaker 3: You know, look what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Right in the opening week of bo and you know,
Speaker 2: black Powder season, these creatures came in and just do
Speaker 2: this insanely impossible feat, you know, right then when hunting season.
Speaker 3: Was just starting to pop off.
Speaker 2: And so I see these tree bends and I'm kind
Speaker 2: of freaking out, and the.
Speaker 3: Geologist is with me.
Speaker 2: He's aware of the whole sasquatch thing, but he wasn't,
Speaker 2: you know, a big believer or whatever. He's He's like,
Speaker 2: I'm open minded to it, dude, but I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't think that they're sasquatch out here. You know, that
Speaker 2: was kind of his attitude. And we're up there for rocks.
Speaker 2: But I see these tree bends. So I pull over
Speaker 2: and I'm like, dude, you can sit in the car.
Speaker 2: I gotta go look at these tree bends. And so
Speaker 2: I'm filming the whole time. I might have stunglasses that
Speaker 2: are cameras.
Speaker 3: I have a body cam, I have a helmet cam, and.
Speaker 2: Those are just cameras just to record sort of the
Speaker 2: backdrop of everything. Because then I have, you know, other
Speaker 2: cameras I got on my phone. Obviously I do use
Speaker 2: my phone quite a bit, but I have like my
Speaker 2: long distance cameras for shooting. I can get footage a
Speaker 2: mile away with them, and all. I have way too
Speaker 2: many cameras anyway. So We're going down to the tree bend,
Speaker 2: one of these tree bends, and I'm videoing it and
Speaker 2: I'm documenting because you could see this tree was bent
Speaker 2: down and wedged up against another tree, and you could
Speaker 2: see these crazy scrapes going up and down, up and
Speaker 2: down where they bent this tree and bent it into
Speaker 2: this way and wedged it up into this tree. I mean,
Speaker 2: it just doesn't make any sense. The tree should have
Speaker 2: broke or the roots should have popped up out of
Speaker 2: the ground, but they didn't in these big old scars
Speaker 2: in this other tree, you know. And I'm document this
Speaker 2: and I'm talking about all of this. And while this
Speaker 2: is going on, the geologist catches up to me, and
Speaker 2: he's looking at everything, you know, and kind of scratching
Speaker 2: his head. And then he's he goes, hey, hey, look
Speaker 2: at this, you know, And I turn and he's holding
Speaker 2: this big old pine cone. Right.
Speaker 3: He's a scientist, you know, he's a smart guy. And
Speaker 3: Andy he goes, he's like, dude.
Speaker 2: Don't you understand, like this isn't from these trees, like
Speaker 2: this is this is not a tree that is native
Speaker 2: to this area.
Speaker 3: This is this is kind of weird. And I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: you're looking at a pinecone thing, and a pine.
Speaker 2: Cone's weird, like when you got this giant, impossible tree
Speaker 2: structure right above.
Speaker 3: You, you know. But but then I understand what he's saying.
Speaker 2: He's like, dude, this was directly under this bent tree
Speaker 2: and it had to have been brought here.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, I get what you're saying. So
Speaker 3: so he's holding it, but he's being careful.
Speaker 2: He's just barely holding it with his like fingertips, and
Speaker 2: and he hands it to me, and I'm looking at
Speaker 2: it and I'm like, yeah, dude, and it looked like
Speaker 2: it had teeth mark in it, like I'm assuming that
Speaker 2: the sasquatch may have actually stuck this thing in its
Speaker 2: mouth just.
Speaker 3: To hang on to it or something.
Speaker 2: While it was using its hands to do something else,
Speaker 2: it was holding this pine cone in its teeth. And
Speaker 2: so all that was documented on camera, the whole finding
Speaker 2: of this pine cone. And I put it in a
Speaker 2: plastic baggie and I kept this pine cone.
Speaker 3: And that day he and I went on that hike.
Speaker 3: You know, we went on a crazy journey.
Speaker 2: I mean, we started hiking at seven something in the
Speaker 2: morning and we went down to the bottom of this canyon,
Speaker 2: hiked this beautiful, insane river, found a bunch of rocks.
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Speaker 2: I set up some game cameras and then we had
Speaker 2: to climb out, and we didn't make it back to
Speaker 2: my trip till eight thirty at night. It was just
Speaker 2: getting dark. I mean, if we would have, we could
Speaker 2: have been in a bad way.
Speaker 3: We luckily got out just in time.
Speaker 2: But it was in that hike I found so many
Speaker 2: different tree breaks, Like I've found so so many different
Speaker 2: things that are not natural in this area. It's gotten
Speaker 2: to the point where it's not even we're talking about
Speaker 2: them anymore, you know, like making another video of trees
Speaker 2: that have been topped. When tree tops don't break very easily.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a whole nother discussion that I'm I'm
Speaker 2: actually making a video about right now, a series of
Speaker 2: videos about how rare it is for trees to lose
Speaker 2: their tops. Healthy green trees tops don't break. Yet I'm
Speaker 2: finding areas where there'll be fifteen to twenty trees that
Speaker 2: have all lost their tops in one.
Speaker 3: Acre of forest.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just it's really it's almost impossible for
Speaker 2: a healthy green tree to have its top break. Wind
Speaker 2: can't do it, snow won't do it. Lightning's the only
Speaker 2: thing that can do it. And yet I'm finding areas
Speaker 2: where something has gone through and just topped so many trees.
Speaker 3: And I'm finding.
Speaker 2: These really crazy trail systems, and I've got footprint I've
Speaker 2: found so many footprints here. I haven't cast any footprints
Speaker 2: because the forest floors out there, everything's so steep so
Speaker 2: and everything's pine needles and moths and so the footprints
Speaker 2: you get out there they're not like good castable footprints.
Speaker 2: But I have one in particular that's just amazing. You
Speaker 2: can see the big toe and the next toe where
Speaker 2: it cut through the moss and made this footprint.
Speaker 1: Do you have a three D scanner on your phone
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 3: Not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 1: No, what kind of phone do you have?
Speaker 3: Oh it's an Android? What is this thing? I think
Speaker 3: it's a Galaxy something I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you can get apps. For example, Android has
Speaker 1: one called polycam where you can use your phone to
Speaker 1: scan the actual footprint and then you can see how
Speaker 1: deep down it goes and you can just get like
Speaker 1: a whole viewpoint of it. And it's really cool. So
Speaker 1: I would look into that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, that would be cool.
Speaker 2: And then when I do that scan, can it become
Speaker 2: recorded in like video format?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I know guys that they will do that
Speaker 1: and then they'll put like their little videos from it
Speaker 1: inside their other videos and they can share the videos
Speaker 1: with other people. And yeah, so I'm okay. I don't
Speaker 1: know about PINETI, but I'd love.
Speaker 3: To learn how to do that. There's so much stuff
Speaker 3: I need to learn how to do.
Speaker 2: It's it's so frustrating not having the tech skills I need.
Speaker 3: So when I got home, I put the pine cone
Speaker 3: in the.
Speaker 2: Freezer and I I started looking at comparisons to what
Speaker 2: this pine cone is, and it's I'm I'm not you know,
Speaker 2: I guess, I'm I'm I could be wrong, but I
Speaker 2: looked at a lot of comparisons, and I'm pretty confident
Speaker 2: it's called the celllpine, you know, pine tree, and those
Speaker 2: are a really high elevation tree. And I looked into
Speaker 2: the maps of where they should be and where they grow,
Speaker 2: and there's none that should be in this area. And
Speaker 2: all of the trees in this area have all been
Speaker 2: planted by logging companies and they're not going to plant
Speaker 2: cell valpine there because it's not going to do well.
Speaker 2: It's probably not going to grow at all. Uh. And
Speaker 2: then I looked in further about the subalpine trees and
Speaker 2: found all this literature about all these uses that the
Speaker 2: Native Americans used to use those trees for for medicines,
Speaker 2: for treating different ailments, like, I mean, so much stuff.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe how much there was about this tree,
Speaker 2: about how it was, you know, a major part.
Speaker 3: Of their medicines and stuff, the.
Speaker 2: Native Americans, and so that was all pretty compelling and interesting,
Speaker 2: you know, and I it was just strange, you know,
Speaker 2: that it appeared right there underneath the bent tree, but
Speaker 2: I didn't get to see how it was laying on
Speaker 2: the ground when the geologists found it. He found it
Speaker 2: and showed it to me, so the first time I
Speaker 2: saw it, it was in his hand. But then I
Speaker 2: want to jump jump ahead to my most recent trip
Speaker 2: up there. I took my son with me. He's nine
Speaker 2: years old, and I've been up there by myself enough,
Speaker 2: I've kind of concluded, you know, that it's it's safe.
Speaker 2: And he and I were camping. I cut this road
Speaker 2: that had been overgrown for like a decade, and.
Speaker 3: I cleared it.
Speaker 2: And I cleared about a quarter mile of this road
Speaker 2: with my chainsaws so I could drive in there and camp.
Speaker 2: I wanted to camp in a section of the forest
Speaker 2: that nobody's camped in in a long time. But having
Speaker 2: my son there, I needed to have my truck nearby,
Speaker 2: and you know, I wanted to bring enough supplies so
Speaker 2: it was comfortable for him. And if I had been
Speaker 2: by myself, I could have just hiked into the woods
Speaker 2: and camped, you know, in some area way off the
Speaker 2: beaten path.
Speaker 3: But having my son with me, I had.
Speaker 2: My generator, and I had our big fancy tent, and
Speaker 2: I had all kinds of crap just to create more
Speaker 2: of like a glamping type campsite for him.
Speaker 3: And so anyway, I cut.
Speaker 2: The road out made this really cool camp and he
Speaker 2: and I set out one day just to go do
Speaker 2: some sasquatch hunting investigating, and I took him to when
Speaker 2: I mentioned the tree bends with the geologist, I mentioned
Speaker 2: that there was three of them, and the geologists and
Speaker 2: I only went and looked at one of them, and
Speaker 2: the other one I just saw from the road.
Speaker 3: It was a ways down in the forest.
Speaker 2: And you know, we had another mission that day that
Speaker 2: was more important. We were trying to get into that canyon,
Speaker 2: so I didn't investigate the other one. So my son
Speaker 2: and I went to this tree bend and we're checking
Speaker 2: it out, and it's the same scenario.
Speaker 3: The tree is bent over in a very weird way.
Speaker 2: It's wedged up against another tree, and there's these big
Speaker 2: old scars going up and down that other tree where
Speaker 2: you can tell that it had to be like rubbed
Speaker 2: up and down and wedged, you know, as it was
Speaker 2: bent or formed into the way of which it looked.
Speaker 2: And so I'm filming this and filming that, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden my son.
Speaker 3: He goes, hey, Dad, what's that?
Speaker 2: And I turn around and I'm filming, and I'm looking,
Speaker 2: and my son is pointing at the ground to one
Speaker 2: of those sub alpine pine cones that was carefully and
Speaker 2: intentionally stuck in the mud.
Speaker 3: So it was pointing straight up to the sky.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was like and luckily I caught all
Speaker 2: this on camera, like it was all being filmed, and
Speaker 2: it was placed in this way that is just completely unnatural,
Speaker 2: like a pine cone. Well, for one thing, pine cone's
Speaker 2: this big. This type of pinecone just don't exist in
Speaker 2: this forest. I've never seen any like it. And I've spent.
Speaker 3: A lot of time in our mountains and forests.
Speaker 2: I grew up in the mountains and forests around Packward, Washington.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a mountain kid like.
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time in the forest, and
Speaker 2: I've never seen pinegunes like this in our forest. In
Speaker 2: the way this pine cone was stuck in the mud,
Speaker 2: there's no doubt in my mind it had to have
Speaker 2: been done by hands, by coordinating hands that pressed it
Speaker 2: and stuck it in the mud.
Speaker 3: It just there's no way it dropped.
Speaker 2: Phil got stepped on by a deer or something and
Speaker 2: got shoved into the like it just there's no way.
Speaker 3: It was perfectly placed.
Speaker 2: Pointing, perfectly straight up, intentionally put there directly underneath this
Speaker 2: tree bend, you know. And so I'm just like shocked,
Speaker 2: like with another pine gone, you know, and this one,
Speaker 2: you know, didn't get touched by the geologist. Nobody's touched it.
Speaker 2: So I went up to my truck and got a
Speaker 2: plastic baggy and came down, and I even had my
Speaker 2: son video as I pulled it from the mud, just
Speaker 2: to show, like, and you could tell by when I
Speaker 2: pulled it out of the mud that it had been
Speaker 2: in the mud a little while. I had a little
Speaker 2: bit of like mold that was growing around the edges
Speaker 2: of it. As it pulled out of the mud. It
Speaker 2: a bunch of mud like stuck to it, you know,
Speaker 2: was all clumped to it. It isn't like anybody that
Speaker 2: watches me remove that thing will will no immediately that
Speaker 2: it isn't something I could have just done that day.
Speaker 2: Like you can clearly tell it had been there for
Speaker 2: a few weeks at least, just by the way it
Speaker 2: was when I removed it. And so I have these
Speaker 2: two pine cones you know that. I know we're put
Speaker 2: there by Sasquatch. Of course, people could debate that or whatever.
Speaker 2: And I've been wanting to figure out how I can
Speaker 2: move forward with getting these things tested or investigated or something.
Speaker 2: And I had sent a lot of emails out to
Speaker 2: different Sasquatch stuff people. I've talked on the phone to
Speaker 2: a few people, you know, I most people are just
Speaker 2: gonna try this person or you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And so I sent some emails out to some actual
Speaker 2: DNA labs. You know, I figured most of them would
Speaker 2: just laugh. Well, this morning I got a response from
Speaker 2: one of them and call themselves doctor something something from
Speaker 2: some lab somewhere, and he said he wants to set
Speaker 2: up a video call this sometime this week to talk
Speaker 2: to me about, you know, what I have. And so
Speaker 2: I was pretty blown away by that, like, wow, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe this guy's a believer or who knows, you know,
Speaker 2: So it'd be interesting to see what comes of that.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty paranoid and distrusting with people in general, so
Speaker 2: it'd be kind of hard for me to mail them
Speaker 2: off to some lab and just hope that they don't
Speaker 2: just get burnt, you know, what I mean, like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, but we'll cross that bridge women get there.
Speaker 2: I guess I was just pretty excited that somebody even
Speaker 2: gives a care. You know, do you want to hear
Speaker 2: more stuff about experiences?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, yeah, anything you'd like to share.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is some of the more. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is pretty I think it's pretty exciting stuff. And
Speaker 1: you're not saying the area, but any of the area
Speaker 1: that you're alluding to. I mean, yeah, this, it's it's awesome.
Speaker 1: So I would love if you have more to share.
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I got plenty sure. I mean,
Speaker 3: just just the day.
Speaker 2: My son and I were up there camping for four days,
Speaker 2: three nights, and it was crazy. As we're leaving, he's
Speaker 2: getting pretty burned out on dad's obsession with turning down
Speaker 2: every road and seeing something and running up into the
Speaker 2: woods with my camera and just seeing like I could find.
Speaker 2: And you know, he's only nine years old. He's the
Speaker 2: coolest nine.
Speaker 3: Year old on Earth.
Speaker 2: And he's been the Trooper of all troopers the whole time,
Speaker 2: no complaining. I'm taking him through some miserable stuff. Been
Speaker 2: a great kid, but he's definitely getting tired. He just
Speaker 2: wants to go home, you know. And as we're driving out,
Speaker 2: we're almost off the mountain, and I'm like, you know what, dude,
Speaker 2: I've never checked this road out and he just gives
Speaker 2: him his look like he already knows I'm doing it,
Speaker 2: you know, so he's not giving me permission.
Speaker 3: He just like whatever.
Speaker 2: And so I turned down this road and I see
Speaker 2: three break I see stuff. This area is, like I've said,
Speaker 2: just inundated with sasquatch stuff. Like it's it's just mind
Speaker 2: blowing that this area Isn't it just like completely taped
Speaker 2: off and have scientists all over it, like it's it's
Speaker 2: so abundant with sasquatch evidence. And uh. I turn down
Speaker 2: this little side road and I get out, and I
Speaker 2: and my son gets out and he follows me, and
Speaker 2: we're walking down to this tree line and I pull
Speaker 2: out my phone and I start filming, and right then
Speaker 2: there's a sound and a sasquatch type noise.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: That's somebody would probably say, oh, that's just an owl,
Speaker 2: but owls don't typically make noise in the middle of
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 3: This is like three o'clock in.
Speaker 2: The afternoon, you know, and I just right when I
Speaker 2: turn on the there's a noise coming down from the trees,
Speaker 2: you know, a weird whoop type hoop noise, and then
Speaker 2: another one responds off to the left, you know, And
Speaker 2: it was awesome because I just turned on Actually haven't
Speaker 2: reviewed the footage, but that was just kind of cool.
Speaker 3: Like on our way out, something happened, you know.
Speaker 2: That obviously could be debated whether it's sasquatch or not.
Speaker 3: But I like to think it was.
Speaker 2: I like to think those creatures are actually watching me
Speaker 2: and messing with me quite a bit, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you. So that was just the super recent, most
Speaker 2: recent little thing that happened.
Speaker 3: But the very first time you're out.
Speaker 2: How to get into this valley, the valley where I
Speaker 2: was looking when I had that views point, I used
Speaker 2: an e bike and I parked way over in a
Speaker 2: totally different area because I studied some maps and I
Speaker 2: saw that this might be.
Speaker 3: A potential way to get in there, and it was.
Speaker 2: I had to go under a few gates and I
Speaker 2: had to ride my bike a good eight miles or
Speaker 2: whatever it was.
Speaker 3: But it's an e bike, says not. And I have cameras.
Speaker 2: Set up on my handlebar, and I have cameras on
Speaker 2: like my helmet and cameras all over the place, and
Speaker 2: so I forget what camera for sure captured this what happened,
Speaker 2: but it might be on two cameras actually.
Speaker 3: So I'm getting into the valley and I'm super super
Speaker 3: excited because.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, I'm actually in the valley. I don't
Speaker 2: know exactly where. I hadn't triangulated, you know, precisely where
Speaker 2: I was, but I knew I was in the valley,
Speaker 2: and I'm coming down this road and I'm just getting
Speaker 2: this really like like I'm excited, but I'm also kind
Speaker 2: of like nervous at the same time, and I'm like
Speaker 2: really starting to feel like I'm invading onto somebody's private
Speaker 2: property or something. And so I'm going flow and I'm
Speaker 2: just uneasy. I feel like eyeballs are on me, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, boom, it's like I just ran
Speaker 2: into a brick wall on my bike. I'm on the ground,
Speaker 2: laying there like what just happened? Like it made no sense.
Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't going very fast, so I wasn't
Speaker 2: liking too much pain. I mean, my leg was bleeding
Speaker 2: from the gravel. But it was just so crazy.
Speaker 1: Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?
Speaker 2: And I do have the footage of that which shoes
Speaker 2: me just gradually, calmly riding a bike and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, boom, I wreck.
Speaker 3: I mean, it made no sense. And uh at this point,
Speaker 3: you know, I wasn't.
Speaker 2: Aware of how much stuff is out there that talk
Speaker 2: about how they can cloak and make themselves invisible.
Speaker 3: I really don't know. I don't know what to make
Speaker 3: of it. It was just really weird.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 3: I get up get on my bike.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm confused over what just happened, Like how
Speaker 2: did I just wreck? You know?
Speaker 3: But I couldn't make any sense of it. But bikes crash,
Speaker 3: you know, who knows? And so I get on my
Speaker 3: bike and I'm riding up and I get up into
Speaker 3: an area and I.
Speaker 2: Do some investigating up in this area, and I what
Speaker 2: I believe is the lookout point. Are you familiar with
Speaker 2: like God standings work at all?
Speaker 3: Yes? Okay?
Speaker 2: So are you familiar with the term he uses of
Speaker 2: a day watcher? Yeah? I am, yep, Okay, So I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure I find a day watcher.
Speaker 1: Spot, sorry, can you define it? Are people that might
Speaker 1: not be though.
Speaker 2: God Standing talks about what he's discovered a lot is
Speaker 2: what he calls gay watchers, and those are sort of
Speaker 2: like a lookout point for the tribe of Sasquatches that
Speaker 2: finds a good, I don't know, viewpoint, good vantage point,
Speaker 2: and they it's watched all day long for threats or
Speaker 2: people or predators that might be moving in.
Speaker 3: To their area.
Speaker 2: And uh this, So after I got into the valley
Speaker 2: and I parked my bike, I put my kickstand up
Speaker 2: and I parked my bike, and I left the camera
Speaker 2: rolling the whole time while I was gone, just to
Speaker 2: film whatever might come sneaking up the road behind me
Speaker 2: or whatever. And I climb up, and I'm I'm always
Speaker 2: doing a lot of climbing. I go deep, deep into
Speaker 2: the woods, and I'm I climb through stuff that hunters
Speaker 2: don't go through, you know, the pretty miserable brush and
Speaker 2: some really steep, nasty crap is basically what I'm always in.
Speaker 2: But I get up to this little viewpoint and I
Speaker 2: could see where I mean, spot after spot had been
Speaker 2: betted down and betted down, and betted down and betted.
Speaker 3: Like all over that place, and there were specs, you know.
Speaker 2: Big old, big old herds, and this type of dum
Speaker 2: didn't match the bear dung because I'd been finding lots
Speaker 2: and lots of bear dung in the.
Speaker 3: All over that area.
Speaker 2: Everywhere I go up in there that time of year,
Speaker 2: you're finding mounds and mounds of bears all.
Speaker 3: Over the area.
Speaker 2: I'm very familiarized with bear dung, and it's super easy
Speaker 2: to spot that time of year because it's just it
Speaker 2: looks like berries.
Speaker 3: All you see is berry seeds and the bear dum.
Speaker 2: And for some reason, this dung up on this weird
Speaker 2: lookout place where all the these grass beds.
Speaker 3: Have been made from.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if people are familiar with
Speaker 2: how animals will bed down and make you know, like
Speaker 2: beds in the grass, and then you can spot them
Speaker 2: all the time where an animal has slept or just
Speaker 2: relaxed for hours upon hours.
Speaker 3: And this weird little shelf, this slope that it wasn't
Speaker 3: like at the very top of the mountain, but it
Speaker 3: was a really good vantage.
Speaker 2: Point in that valley that you could look down and
Speaker 2: you could see in every direction, and you know, just
Speaker 2: a really good lookout point and it had you know,
Speaker 2: eight nine, ten different spots where something had laid in
Speaker 2: the grass and bedded it down.
Speaker 3: And this dung that was all over the hillside just
Speaker 3: was so weird to me.
Speaker 2: It was almost like a cross between like big dog
Speaker 2: birds and human turds, Like, I mean, it wasn't anything
Speaker 2: like that there. And I've since found this same done elsewhere,
Speaker 2: and so I mean, I don't know. I'm not a scientist,
Speaker 2: but I believe that it is sasquatch done and so
Speaker 2: I look for that when I'm out and about and
Speaker 2: so okay, so I find this lookout going in and
Speaker 2: then I go back to my bike. Well by the
Speaker 2: time I get back to my bike, it had been
Speaker 2: knocked over. It had fallen over. And I've reviewed the
Speaker 2: footage and it did just fall over.
Speaker 3: You know which bikes do you know? They do just
Speaker 3: fall over.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if that was necessarily I crashed
Speaker 2: into a cloak sasquatch or not.
Speaker 3: I don't know if cloak sasquats came over and pushed
Speaker 3: my bike over, but it was weird.
Speaker 2: And then as I'm picking up my bike, and I
Speaker 2: wasn't doing any overnight or anything.
Speaker 3: This was all a one day thing.
Speaker 2: I had to get back to my truck, so I
Speaker 2: was pressed for time, and I noticed that I was
Speaker 2: missing a bottle of power aid that should have been
Speaker 2: in this little pack on the back of my bike,
Speaker 2: you know, And I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, well, that's weird. Where'd that go?
Speaker 2: You know, Like, Okay, it fell out when I crashed.
Speaker 2: So I'm going back that way, so I'll pick it
Speaker 2: up on the way out. And so I cruised through
Speaker 2: and I can't find that power ade anywhere, just gone.
Speaker 2: And bear in mind, like there's nobody driving around on
Speaker 2: these roads at this time period. These are all gated off.
Speaker 2: You can't get out there without a key, and nobody
Speaker 2: was up working doing any logging. Nobody was driving in
Speaker 2: this area, and so the power aid was nowhere to
Speaker 2: be found, which is really weird because any piece of
Speaker 2: garbage on that gravel road would have stood out, you know,
Speaker 2: like a sort thumb.
Speaker 3: And then I drive down back. I'm heading back to
Speaker 3: my truck.
Speaker 2: But there was a bunch of places I planned on
Speaker 2: stopping at on the way out and investigating, and so
Speaker 2: I pull into one of them and I go down
Speaker 2: this trail and I find this beautiful women hole just
Speaker 2: this really amazing, amazing campsite, and uh, like Sasquati say,
Speaker 2: just a beautiful spot, and uh, I probe around, do
Speaker 2: what I can, And I actually found a big old agate.
Speaker 2: That was actually the first time I believe that was
Speaker 2: the first time I found one of those agates, giant
Speaker 2: agots back in there. That's where the whole aggt hunting
Speaker 2: back in there kind of became a thing. And so
Speaker 2: I'm going out to leave, and I get back to
Speaker 2: my bike and I realized that my bear mash had gone,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the.
Speaker 3: Like, how did my bear get? Where is it? You know?
Speaker 2: And so I'm thinking, okay, somehow it came off this
Speaker 2: thing and fill off. So I ride my bike back
Speaker 2: all through the area where I cried. I read all
Speaker 2: the way back up to where I'm below that what
Speaker 2: I believe is a gay Watcher point and it's just nowhere.
Speaker 2: I can't find the bear mats and I can't find
Speaker 2: the power.
Speaker 3: You know. I still to this.
Speaker 2: Day don't know where they went, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: it was really weird. I don't know what the Sasquatch
Speaker 2: would do with my bear mace, but.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And so I get out of there, no problems, nothing
Speaker 2: bad happens. And that was my first experience with entering
Speaker 2: the valley. The valley, it's what I call Sasquatch Valley.
Speaker 2: You know, it depends on who you talk to. You
Speaker 2: There's some people say, oh, guaranteed that sasquatch. Someone else
Speaker 2: is gonna say, oh, you know, it slipped off your
Speaker 2: bike and fell into the ditch and you just didn't
Speaker 2: find it in hun though I.
Speaker 3: Can't prove either way, but it was really weird. I
Speaker 3: will say that it's.
Speaker 2: Very weird, especially how much time I spent looking for
Speaker 2: these things to not find either of them.
Speaker 3: You know, that's pretty weird.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's even possible that they fill off
Speaker 2: and landed in like the ditchline and wouldn't have been visible.
Speaker 3: I did just I would have spotted them.
Speaker 2: It's really weird, and I I do think they were
Speaker 2: picked up by by something. I mean, something with fingers
Speaker 2: and hands that can carry a bottle and carry a
Speaker 2: little canister.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just really weird.
Speaker 2: So the next time I come out into this research area,
Speaker 2: it's uh, I don't know. A couple of weeks later
Speaker 2: and I go back to that beautiful camp site that
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, and I go hiking across the river
Speaker 2: and I take this little creek, not little, it's a good.
Speaker 3: Sized creek, I guess small river.
Speaker 2: And I start chomping up this river and I'm walking
Speaker 2: right in the middle of the river. Pretty nervous going
Speaker 2: into this area. I know there's a lot of bear
Speaker 2: up there, and so I decided to walk in the
Speaker 2: middle of the river because I've spent a lot of
Speaker 2: time walking in rivers. It's kind of a scale that
Speaker 2: some people have and don't have, Like I'm just really
Speaker 2: good walking over slippery rocks and walking through rivers, and
Speaker 2: so I'm totally comfortable just walking right through the rapids.
Speaker 3: I just have some rivers us on and jump right
Speaker 3: up the middle of the river.
Speaker 2: That way, I feel if a bear or something where
Speaker 2: to rush me, I'm gonna see it, rather than if
Speaker 2: I'm walking on the shoreline of the river, where I'm
Speaker 2: right in the brush, where a bear could easily just
Speaker 2: lunge out of the bushes and I wouldn't have much warning.
Speaker 2: So by walking in the middle of the river, it
Speaker 2: just gives me a little bit more warning of predators
Speaker 2: or anything kind of coming at me, but you do
Speaker 2: sacrifice any skeelthiness. It's hard to be really quiet. You know,
Speaker 2: it's chomping up the middle of a river. But it's
Speaker 2: hard to be quiet period. No matter what you're doing
Speaker 2: in the woods, you're always making noise. It's so hard
Speaker 2: to be quiet in the Pacific Northwest woods. So I'm
Speaker 2: working my way up this river and I'm finding it's
Speaker 2: mind blowing aggots all along the way. And then I
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm probably about an hour into walking up
Speaker 2: this river, and I see off to the left an
Speaker 2: upside down tree root, you know, way up.
Speaker 3: In the air.
Speaker 2: And this is a big old log that's probably fifteen
Speaker 2: inches wide, easily fifteen inches.
Speaker 3: Wide, and you know, the root ball up in the air.
Speaker 2: And I was just dumbfounded, you know, like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: came out here hoping to find a sasquatch tree break
Speaker 2: or you know, find something, and find an upside down tree.
Speaker 2: You know, it just blew my mind, you know. And
Speaker 2: then I'm staring at it from the river and I
Speaker 2: know exactly what it is, and I'm filming it from
Speaker 2: the river, and so I go over there. I climb
Speaker 2: up this little embankment and I get up into this
Speaker 2: field and there's a bunch of them.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm filming, and but a lot of.
Speaker 2: Them didn't have roots on them, and a lot of
Speaker 2: them actually had been cut by chainsaws, which you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's to be expected up there, because it's you're talking,
Speaker 2: this whole area has just been logged over and over
Speaker 2: and over again.
Speaker 3: And so I mean, if it's Sathquad it's.
Speaker 2: Walking around picking up logs, more than likely they're going
Speaker 2: to pick one up that has been cut by a
Speaker 2: chainsaw at some point. And so some of these are
Speaker 2: actually pretty tall. I mean, some of these trees sticking
Speaker 2: out of the ground are logs sticking out of the
Speaker 2: ground were I don't know, thirty feet.
Speaker 3: Up in the air.
Speaker 2: Some of them have roots, some of them don't. You know,
Speaker 2: some of them are only eight foot in the air.
Speaker 3: You know, some of.
Speaker 2: Them all different sizes, and some of them aren't sticking
Speaker 2: perfectly straight up. Some of them are kind of angled,
Speaker 2: sticking out different ways. But you know, it was just amazing,
Speaker 2: Like I never thought that I'd be able to go
Speaker 2: back and show some of the naysayers in my life,
Speaker 2: you know, pictures of upside down trees. And so as
Speaker 2: I'm walking through this field and I'm filming all this
Speaker 2: is being filmed, I find this area in the grass
Speaker 2: where something had been bedded down and it seemed recent,
Speaker 2: you know, like it seemed like something could have possibly
Speaker 2: been actually laying there as I came into the field.
Speaker 3: So it made me kind of uneasy.
Speaker 2: And then I'm walking through the field and I'm you know,
Speaker 2: narrating as I'm filing trees, and I walk right in
Speaker 2: to a pile of elk bones. There was an elk skull,
Speaker 2: and you know, elk bones. It could be dear, but
Speaker 2: it just seemed like a bigger skull. If it was
Speaker 2: a deer, it was a pretty good sized deer, but
Speaker 2: there wasn't any antlers, so it was probably you know,
Speaker 2: a female deer or elk. But I do believe it
Speaker 2: was an elk by the size of it. And so
Speaker 2: that was kind of scary, you know, kind of you know,
Speaker 2: so I didn't spend a lot of time there. I
Speaker 2: made the videos. I saw what I saw, and I
Speaker 2: got out of there and went back to the river.
Speaker 2: I just, I don't know, I felt more safe walking
Speaker 2: up the river than being off in the bush in
Speaker 2: that weird little field.
Speaker 3: And so I went up and down the river.
Speaker 2: That day and got a big old backpack of rocks
Speaker 2: out of there.
Speaker 1: Big for society. Who would be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: And I've been back to that river many times then, oh,
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2: Now I went back to that same river, and I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure I was by myself on this trip.
Speaker 3: I'm usually by myself, but I've brought people out. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I was. I was by myself for sure.
Speaker 2: And I was hiking up the river, you know, retracing
Speaker 2: a lot of the same footsteps of I've already been across,
Speaker 2: kind of rock hunting, kind of sasquatch hunting, just just
Speaker 2: trying to be proactive in this weird endeavor that i've
Speaker 2: you know, taken up. And I passed my area where
Speaker 2: the upside down trees are, and I was planning on
Speaker 2: come because I go up the river then I walk
Speaker 2: back down the river, so I see everything twice the
Speaker 2: way I do this. Now, I was gonna stop at
Speaker 2: the upside on trees and video them on the way back,
Speaker 2: so I just skipped right past them, and then I
Speaker 2: get to this area where there's the beginning phases of
Speaker 2: a beaver dam being built, you know, and I thought, well,
Speaker 2: how cool is this. I could actually get some game
Speaker 2: camera set up here and actually get you know, piece
Speaker 2: by piece by pieces, because beaver dams get huge.
Speaker 3: I found beaver dams in the woods that were you know.
Speaker 2: Eight feet tall, you know, huge, huge, damn Sometimes they
Speaker 2: don't always get that big.
Speaker 3: But I was looking at the topography, you know.
Speaker 2: The way the river and the way the valleys shaped,
Speaker 2: and this beaver dam could potentially become one of those monsters.
Speaker 3: And so I thought, well, that'd be really cool.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get some game camera set up and.
Speaker 3: Get a record of how they build these things, and
Speaker 3: you know, make a video about it.
Speaker 2: Because everything I'm doing is supposed to become tough for
Speaker 2: my channel that doesn't exist that I hope to get
Speaker 2: built someday. And so I continue upstream and I'm seeing
Speaker 2: all these areas that used to be just covered with
Speaker 2: foliage in the beaver has eaten all the trees, chewed
Speaker 2: them all down, removed them, and he's building the dam
Speaker 2: with them. And then all of a sudden, off to
Speaker 2: my left again more upside down trees. Because I'd walked
Speaker 2: right past these things several times. You couldn't see them
Speaker 2: because they were all blocked by the green foliage off
Speaker 2: the shoreline.
Speaker 3: The beaver had cleared it all away.
Speaker 2: And so here's another sight of upside down trees, you know,
Speaker 2: and it's just it's it was awesome. But these these
Speaker 2: ones actually were smaller. There wasn't any like big, big,
Speaker 2: huge ones. But I mean they're still pretty impressive there.
Speaker 2: I don't know, fifteen feet in the air, I would say, uh,
Speaker 2: eight to ten inch logs.
Speaker 3: With roots on it, you know, stabbed into this ground.
Speaker 2: I mean, to dig in this dirt would be so
Speaker 2: hard because it's it's just river rock, like compressed river
Speaker 2: rock is all it is. It's so digging or you know,
Speaker 2: stabbing a log into that that ground. I mean, it
Speaker 2: just doesn't even seem possible, even like because.
Speaker 3: I have post hole diggers for the work I do.
Speaker 2: You know, when people hire me to build a fence
Speaker 2: or something like that, you break out a posthole digger,
Speaker 2: and if there's rocks, it's so hard to dig into.
Speaker 2: I mean, your your bit just bounces off of them,
Speaker 2: and it just it's a nightmare. Your wrists just get
Speaker 2: hammered trying to control it. You know.
Speaker 3: Postal diggers are a nightmare. Period.
Speaker 2: I've always hated running postal diggers, but I just don't
Speaker 2: even understand how anything could do this, could drive these
Speaker 2: logs into this river rock like they do. But I
Speaker 2: went over into this grassy area and there was some
Speaker 2: more upside down trees over there. I think there was
Speaker 2: like maybe five or six in this area. They all
Speaker 2: seemed a little bit older than the first the main
Speaker 2: upside down tree area. In fact, there was one that
Speaker 2: I went up to and it was old and it
Speaker 2: was a small upside down tree.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was like maybe up to my chest,
Speaker 3: but it was a rootball up to my chest.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't a big fat log or anything, you know,
Speaker 2: it was five inches or whatever. And I went up
Speaker 2: and just barely kind of touched this thing, and it
Speaker 2: broke and fell over, and it was just.
Speaker 3: Old, old decayds.
Speaker 2: I mean that one possibly's been there for twenty years.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I have no clue, but old.
Speaker 2: And then I got down on my knees and dug
Speaker 2: in and looked at the like where the log is
Speaker 2: actually in the earth, and it was all very old.
Speaker 2: You could see dry rot had set in, and.
Speaker 3: It'd been there.
Speaker 2: They've been there a long time, some of them look
Speaker 2: obviously they've been there longer than others. But what I think,
Speaker 2: you know, and totally just speculate on this, I think
Speaker 2: that they they have some kind of meaning, like maybe
Speaker 2: every now and then the new I don't know, alpha
Speaker 2: that's in charge, or something goes down there and drives
Speaker 2: something into the ground to signify.
Speaker 3: I don't know they have meaning. I don't know for sure.
Speaker 2: It can't just be I'm bored, so I'm gonna just
Speaker 2: pick a log in the ground like that doesn't.
Speaker 3: Really make sense.
Speaker 2: I do think there's there's some kind of message that
Speaker 2: has to do with why they do this.
Speaker 1: Oh, I would agree definitely, yeah, that it has to be.
Speaker 1: It's not just you know whatever. But man, you have
Speaker 1: got some wild, wild stuff going on in your area.
Speaker 1: It is just crazy.
Speaker 2: Hugh, Yeah, man, it's it's been pretty exciting. I mean
Speaker 2: it's and what's crazy is this actual sasquatch investigation. It
Speaker 2: was a day before Father's Day that I had my sighting.
Speaker 2: So I'm not a math expert. How many months ago
Speaker 2: had that been. Do you know of the top of
Speaker 2: your head, I can't even think what the.
Speaker 1: Fathers Day June. Let's see, I think it was June
Speaker 1: June sixteenth, So yeah, that's not long dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that was this Father's Day is when I
Speaker 3: had it was a day before. It was a Saturday.
Speaker 2: And so, I mean, I haven't been out this very long,
Speaker 2: and and I look at what I've already compiled my
Speaker 2: evidence wise, and then I go and I watch people's
Speaker 2: janneals that have been around for years and years and years,
Speaker 2: and like, I mean, I'm not trying to to my
Speaker 2: own horn or whatever, but it's like, dude, in a
Speaker 2: few months, I've I've uncovered better evidence than what people
Speaker 2: have been finding, you know, many many.
Speaker 3: Years of doing the research, and its area like everywhere
Speaker 3: I go, everywhere I go, I find da squat stuff.
Speaker 2: Like about a month ago, I can't remember, I was
Speaker 2: visiting my parents and talking about the stuff I do
Speaker 2: because my parents live in the area of where I researched.
Speaker 2: I mean there, I wouldn't say in the area, but
Speaker 2: it's it's not that far away, you know, from where
Speaker 2: they live. So when I had the sighting, when I
Speaker 2: you know, my very first sighting about the day before
Speaker 2: Father's Day, I went right to my parents' house after
Speaker 2: the sighting to have dinner. That's where my wife and
Speaker 2: kids were at, and that was what I was scheduled
Speaker 2: to do, and I'm telling them.
Speaker 3: You know, at first, I wasn't even going.
Speaker 2: To tell anybody, because I've had some weird stuff happening.
Speaker 2: I've had UFOs, I've had paranormal things happened to me
Speaker 2: throughout my life, and nobody believes you, you know, nobody
Speaker 2: believes you when you tell them about these things. And
Speaker 2: so I was really debating whether or not I was
Speaker 2: even going to tell them about the Sasquatch, you know.
Speaker 3: Didn't want to have people roll their eyes.
Speaker 2: And then I really hate it when people pretend to
Speaker 2: believe you just to talk about you behind your back,
Speaker 2: you know, like, oh.
Speaker 3: He's crazy, you know.
Speaker 2: And so the whole drive home, I was debating whether
Speaker 2: I was going to tell anybody or not.
Speaker 3: And then I get to my parents' house and.
Speaker 2: You know, my wife probably saw a weird look on
Speaker 2: my face or something, you know, and she's like, what's
Speaker 2: going on and washing my hands, and I'm all filthy
Speaker 2: dirty because I've been breaking rocks all day, and so
Speaker 2: I just tell it, like, and what's crazy about me
Speaker 2: seeing the sasquatches. The night before I was talking to
Speaker 2: my parents about some of the videos, you know, of
Speaker 2: the close ups that Todd's Standing provided from the faces
Speaker 2: of the sasquatches, because a lot of people don't know
Speaker 2: that those exist, whether you want to believe they're real
Speaker 2: or not. But a lot of people have never even
Speaker 2: seen Todd's videos. He's not really very well known when
Speaker 2: you compare his footage to like the Patterson Gimblet you know,
Speaker 2: like everybody's seen those Patterson Gimblet footage, but not a
Speaker 2: lot of people have seen.
Speaker 3: Todd Standing footage.
Speaker 2: And so it's just crazy because the night before I
Speaker 2: went up to do the rock hounting, I was talking
Speaker 2: about Todd's videos in about the sasquatch faces. And then
Speaker 2: I go up the next day and I'm rock hounting
Speaker 2: and I see a sasquat. So then when I come
Speaker 2: back home, you know, it was just really weird to
Speaker 2: be coming back and being like, yeah, I saw a
Speaker 2: sasquatch today, you know, after just the night before talking
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: The whole thing is just really weird.
Speaker 2: And so as I'm telling everybody about the Sasquatch that
Speaker 2: I saw my dad, who's never had anything paranormal happen
Speaker 2: to him in his life. He doesn't believe in anything.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody's lying, everybody's a fraud or whatever.
Speaker 3: And he goes, oh, yeah, come to think.
Speaker 2: Of it, Oh, a couple of years ago, I was
Speaker 2: up on such and such road up in the mountains,
Speaker 2: and I saw human footprints in the snow.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm yeah, and I'm like, Dad, how have you
Speaker 2: never mentioned this to any of us? Oh? Well, I
Speaker 2: just I just figured it was uh, just a hunter
Speaker 2: and my dad a hunter walking around in the middle
Speaker 2: of the wind there in bare.
Speaker 3: Feet in the snow. Yeah wow. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe he was just camping and maybe just
Speaker 2: left his camp to.
Speaker 3: Go take a piss or something like that. He goes,
Speaker 3: but they weren't huge.
Speaker 2: They weren't, you know, size eighteen's, you know. He said
Speaker 2: that the footprints were comparable to his size, you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm and that's why I'm like, well, Dad, there
Speaker 2: are different size you know, footprints for creatures.
Speaker 3: They got to grow, you know, in order to get big.
Speaker 2: So anyway, so that was just kind of crazy, you
Speaker 2: know that my dad mentioned the you know, finding human
Speaker 2: footprints in the snow, and uh, that was on a
Speaker 2: different mountain than my research area. But it's is I
Speaker 2: know how to get to the area that he where
Speaker 2: he found the footprints, and I actually have gone through
Speaker 2: that area. I spent the day up there and I
Speaker 2: found phenomenal tree breaks, and then I went into the forest.
Speaker 3: Where those three breaks we're at with my dog.
Speaker 2: I have a three legged dogs. She lost her rear
Speaker 2: leg when she got ran over. And he goes out
Speaker 2: a lot with me and does a lot of researching
Speaker 2: with me. But I'm limited on what I can do
Speaker 2: with her because if he hurts one of her.
Speaker 3: Legs, it's a big problem. I'd have to carry her.
Speaker 2: But anyway, me and in her we go into the
Speaker 2: woods underneath these tree breaks, and I find a pile
Speaker 2: of bones in there, just like the pile of bones
Speaker 2: that I found it the upside down tree place, you know,
Speaker 2: and it's it's just kind of creepy because typically bones
Speaker 2: kind of get scattered around, you know, just by animals,
Speaker 2: by nature, you know, when you find them piled in
Speaker 2: the woods.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of creepy.
Speaker 2: It almost seems like they're put there intentionally, and they're
Speaker 2: they're not always, I mean, they just kind of end
Speaker 2: up together when the animal decomposes. But it was just,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm following some tree breaks, you know, into
Speaker 2: the woods in the area nearby where my dad found
Speaker 2: the footprints and just find a pile of bones, you know.
Speaker 2: And so that's really all I know about that area
Speaker 2: where my dad found the footprints. That's a whole nother
Speaker 2: wilderness that I would love to spend more time in
Speaker 2: and do more research in.
Speaker 3: I just haven't.
Speaker 2: But so anyway, and I want to be talking about
Speaker 2: my dad. So I'm at my parents' house and I'm
Speaker 2: talking about my findings and what I'm doing, and my
Speaker 2: dad mentions this area that you can drive into, because.
Speaker 3: That's a big deal.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of these areas that I'm researching, you
Speaker 2: can't drive into them. You have to have keys for
Speaker 2: these gates. And so it's kind of cool when you
Speaker 2: can go to these spots and actually drive through them
Speaker 2: in your vehicle. And so my dad, you know, used
Speaker 2: to work for a logging come and he's up in
Speaker 2: that area and.
Speaker 3: Driving logging truck.
Speaker 2: He was a truck driver and so he knows a
Speaker 2: lot of cool spots up there, and he wanted to
Speaker 2: show me this area.
Speaker 3: So we drive out there.
Speaker 2: It was my dad, my wife, and me. I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was just the three of us that day. And
Speaker 2: he takes me up through this wilderness and we're driving
Speaker 2: around all day and going down random roads, and we
Speaker 2: go to this really amazing area that puts you right
Speaker 2: on this beach at the Clumbia River. Real private area
Speaker 2: right right on the beach, big huge like palisade cliffs
Speaker 2: are right there.
Speaker 3: Just an awesome area.
Speaker 2: And I'm checking the sand like crazy for footprints because
Speaker 2: it was really good sand for footprints.
Speaker 3: And I'm not finding anything.
Speaker 2: And I've been all over this wilderness all day looking
Speaker 2: for a tree break, looking for something, couldn't find anything,
Speaker 2: I mean, and I kept saying that it's like God,
Speaker 2: it's so weird, like this area just has no sasquatch
Speaker 2: sign whatsoever anywhere. And then we're driving out and we're
Speaker 2: I don't know, we're pretty far from where we were
Speaker 2: out at the river. We're almost getting back to where
Speaker 2: you know, people live, and I just off to the
Speaker 2: left there's this little side road and there was a
Speaker 2: tree that was kind of arched in a weird way.
Speaker 2: It just kind of caught my eye, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I just want to check this road out.
Speaker 3: I'm just curious about.
Speaker 1: Something big for society. Who will be right back?
Speaker 2: After these messages, I turned down this road and instantly,
Speaker 2: like all of.
Speaker 3: Them, even my dad, who I don't know.
Speaker 2: If he's even a believer, you know, despite everything that's happened,
Speaker 2: still probably a doubter, but he pretends to be a
Speaker 2: believer around me. I don't know that he is a believer.
Speaker 2: But my wife, you know, and she I think she's
Speaker 2: a believer now, but she's been a skeptic of a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff I've experienced. Like she pretends to believe it,
Speaker 2: but I think she just doesn't really know what to
Speaker 2: think because people that have never had experiences like this,
Speaker 2: they just don't really even know how to I don't
Speaker 2: know how to even think that this stuff could possibly
Speaker 2: be real. But so we're pulling down the road, I
Speaker 2: got two skeptics really with me, and uh, instantly this
Speaker 2: entire road was arch trees after arch tree after arch
Speaker 2: tree arches across the road. So we're driving underneath these trees.
Speaker 2: And these trees are all about oh about as big
Speaker 2: around as like my forearm, maybe a little thicker, some
Speaker 2: a little smaller. But something had taken every single one
Speaker 2: of these trees, and these are maples and bent them into.
Speaker 3: Arches across the road.
Speaker 2: So as you're driving through, you're going under all these arches,
Speaker 2: and then you look to the right and there would
Speaker 2: be a tree break that had.
Speaker 3: Been bent over and broke this whole road. And this
Speaker 3: road goes for about I don't know, roughly a mile
Speaker 3: in the.
Speaker 2: Entire road was just tree breaks and bends and arches.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so weird that there was nothing
Speaker 2: in this area. And then all of a sudden I
Speaker 2: turned down this one road and it's just like a
Speaker 2: Sasquatch playground.
Speaker 3: And a lot of the tree breaks.
Speaker 2: Were old, dried up, old, like multiple years old, and
Speaker 2: then some of them looked like they were so fresh
Speaker 2: they could have happened that day. And then before the
Speaker 2: road ends, I look off to the left and there
Speaker 2: was like a creek probably that comes in you look
Speaker 2: like a canyon. And I get out and I go look,
Speaker 2: and something had taken these trees, and these trees are
Speaker 2: like eighty feet tall, but they're just really skinny, really skinny,
Speaker 2: like beanpole like trees.
Speaker 3: I don't know that they're they're fighting.
Speaker 2: To get light or whatever, so they just stretch out
Speaker 2: like crazy. But something had actually taken three of these
Speaker 2: trees and bent them into each other and made an
Speaker 2: arch where the roots were on each side, and then
Speaker 2: they had been twisted and almost braided into each other
Speaker 2: like and I videoed all this. I have video of
Speaker 2: all this, and it's just this impossible arch where the
Speaker 2: trees are just going up under under I mean, there's
Speaker 2: no way a windstorm, a tornado, or a hurricane. We
Speaker 2: don't get any of those in this area that I'm
Speaker 2: in anyway, but they do get heavy wind, really get
Speaker 2: heavy wind from time to time out there. But there's
Speaker 2: just no way anything could have done this without coordinated,
Speaker 2: intentional fingers.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's and so that anyway, that was just a really
Speaker 2: interesting thing because it's it's almost like anywhere I go
Speaker 2: up there, I'm gonna find super significant sasquatch evidence. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just everywhere I go there, it is like some
Speaker 2: of it's more vague than others, but this whole entire area,
Speaker 2: it I don't know if it's one big tribe of
Speaker 2: them or if it's you know, multiple tribes.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's.
Speaker 2: A big area, but it's uh, it's just inundated with it.
Speaker 2: And when I found this, this particular road that I'm
Speaker 2: talking about with all the arches, it seemed like we
Speaker 2: were a good third plus miles away from my main
Speaker 2: research area. And so at that moment, I thought, well,
Speaker 2: this has to be a different tribe of them, because
Speaker 2: these tree breaks are a little different than the ones
Speaker 2: that I'm I'm finding in my area. They just kind
Speaker 2: of had a different style to them.
Speaker 3: In a way.
Speaker 2: But then when I actually pulled up the maps and
Speaker 2: really looked at you know, the layout, the topography and everything,
Speaker 2: it was only about it about ten miles away, you
Speaker 2: know as the crow flies, which would be probably like
Speaker 2: fourteen miles if you were to actually hike it, going
Speaker 2: up and down the canyon walls and.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So it's not impossible that the same sasquatches are covering
Speaker 2: the same ground.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know how far they.
Speaker 2: You know, would migrate or what they can consider a
Speaker 2: just a stroll through the woods would be.
Speaker 3: Is that twenty miles or two miles? You know, I
Speaker 3: have no idea.
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's it's got to be. I would
Speaker 1: think a ton of miles. But man, Hugh, this, I
Speaker 1: feel like we're probably gonna talk. I would love it
Speaker 1: if you would keep me up to date with what's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 2: Follow up episode might be a really good idea, because
Speaker 2: I currently have I think fifteen game cameras in this area. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and uh, I actually no, it's like eleven I forgot.
Speaker 2: I got a couple of.
Speaker 1: My that's still pretty awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got some some big plans actually, because it
Speaker 2: seemed to work last time on enticing them into my camp,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to really pursue that. No, I probably
Speaker 2: will have some pretty cool follow up stuff.
Speaker 1: Pretty that's awesome.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely keep me, keep me in the loop with
Speaker 1: what goes on in in your area up there. For sure.
Speaker 2: I do have footage of what I believe is a
Speaker 2: face of a sasquat looking at me, but I couldn't
Speaker 2: get the camera to focus on it, and uh, I
Speaker 2: was in a canyon on the slope. It was super
Speaker 2: sketchy and then I also have another footage that was
Speaker 2: right at sundown and I couldn't get the camera to focus,
Speaker 2: and so I tost that camera side and pulled out
Speaker 2: another camera and uh by.
Speaker 3: The time I got it up, but there was nothing there.
Speaker 2: And another piece of footage I got blobs black blobs
Speaker 2: in a shrub that seemed to be moving.
Speaker 3: But I could, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I have a lot of like maybe squatch footage,
Speaker 2: but it's just I want I want that million dollars shot.
Speaker 3: It'll blow up, you know.
Speaker 1: I would recommend to just put it all up. Seriously,
Speaker 1: put it up. Yeah, people can. I mean, you'd be surprised.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of like really technical people that can
Speaker 1: even they might be even able to help clear up stuff.
Speaker 1: But I would not. I would just put it all
Speaker 1: up because people love watching your journey as well. That's
Speaker 1: a huge deal. Absolutely, Hugh, Thanks again for coming on
Speaker 1: and for chatting.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, I'll look forward to talking to you again when
Speaker 2: I got some big news.
Speaker 1: You got it, talk to you later, all right, man,
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