1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,839 Speaker 1: Check it out college football on the West Coast. This 2 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,400 is Get Off My Pylon, a look at the PAC 3 00:00:07,519 --> 00:00:11,240 twelve and more, part of the College Gridiron Coast to 4 00:00:11,279 --> 00:00:15,400 Coast podcast network. Here's your host, that's Zimo. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: Welco to the latest edition of Get Off My Pilon 6 00:00:18,359 --> 00:00:22,160 College football podcast. This is your host, Matt Zemec Get 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,719 Off My Pilon, part of the College Gridiron Coast to 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,800 Coast podcast network. 9 00:00:26,839 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 3: Whether you're listening to The Big Ten Paradigm with Noah 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,359 Drury or the All Sports Discussion acc podcast, or Yards 11 00:00:35,399 --> 00:00:40,039 and Stripes on the Service Academies, or Florida Football Insiders 12 00:00:40,119 --> 00:00:43,759 with Jason Powers and the other podcasts that are part 13 00:00:43,759 --> 00:00:47,560 of our family of shows. Go to Gridiron Coast on Twitter, 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:53,119 go to Apple, Spotify, Speaker, and the other places where 15 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:57,079 you listen to your podcasts to get all your college 16 00:00:57,119 --> 00:01:01,119 Gridiron Coast to Coast shows covering college football in all 17 00:01:01,159 --> 00:01:03,719 the different corners of the country, giving you the different 18 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:08,359 flavors of this wonderful sport, which really came alive in 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,120 week five at the end of the month of September. 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,079 So we'll get to Oregon, Penn State, the Big One 21 00:01:16,799 --> 00:01:19,200 in a little bit and really the big ten had 22 00:01:19,239 --> 00:01:22,920 the biggest stories. But let's just first go through a 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,120 roundup of the other action of the West Coast schools 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,280 that we follow on a continuous basis. CAL was down 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,319 fourteen to nothing very early in New England, but rallied 26 00:01:35,359 --> 00:01:39,040 to beat Boston College. Now CAL face planted against San 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,640 Diego State. Able to rebound here, but you know, Boston 28 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,159 College is at the bottom of the ACC. So CAL 29 00:01:47,359 --> 00:01:51,599 just barely sneaking by BC. Bears will take the road win, 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,840 thank you very much, But just barely beating a bad 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,560 Boston College team does not augur well for the Bears 32 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:05,879 moving before because the ACC schedule is only going to 33 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:09,520 get tougher from this point onward. So you know, CAL 34 00:02:10,159 --> 00:02:13,439 has a lot of work to do in terms of improving, 35 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,520 but at least the Bears avoid what would have been 36 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,080 a very bad loss. Stanford, also in the ACC, beat 37 00:02:21,159 --> 00:02:24,039 San Jose State thirty to twenty nine, so you know, 38 00:02:25,719 --> 00:02:29,800 a little Bay area Silicon Valley action and that game 39 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,280 was close the whole way. Give Stanford credit for scratching 40 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:35,000 out scratching out a couple of wins. And you know, 41 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:38,840 a month ago after the loss to Hawaii, it seemed 42 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:42,400 Stanford could be at the very bottom of the Power Force. 43 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,400 Well the Cardinal aren't there. You know, Oklahoma State is 44 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,840 clearly worse. UCLA is clearly worse. So Stanford's not one 45 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,280 of the two or three worst Power four teams managing 46 00:02:54,319 --> 00:02:58,080 to get a few wins. So give the Cardinal credit 47 00:02:58,159 --> 00:03:03,039 for fighting and for winning some attainable games. I mean, 48 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:06,039 that's the best they can reasonably do. So maybe Stanford 49 00:03:06,039 --> 00:03:09,919 finishes the year three and nine, four and eight. That's 50 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,560 certainly better than one and eleven or two and ten, 51 00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:17,080 which is what it kind of looked like. In early September, 52 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:21,319 Mountain West San Diego State wins a total rock fight 53 00:03:21,479 --> 00:03:25,719 six to three on the road at Northern Illinois. Ugly game, 54 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:31,199 beautiful result for the Aztecs, who moved closer to Bowl eligibility, 55 00:03:31,199 --> 00:03:34,000 and that would really be a good result for Sean 56 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,560 Lewis this season. So San Diego State not looking, you know, 57 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:42,879 consistently impressive from week to week. But you know, shut 58 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:46,919 out Cal. So obviously that defense allowing just three points 59 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:50,680 to Northern Illinois after shutting out Cal, that defense is 60 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,479 onto something. Can the can the offense join the defense 61 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,439 in terms of giving San Diego State a more complete profile. 62 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,719 That's the storyline to watch with team tench Titlan as 63 00:04:06,759 --> 00:04:10,520 the season moves along. Staying in the Mountain West, Boise 64 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,719 State handles Apple Acchian State without too much of a problem. 65 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:19,319 It wasn't a thermonuclear blowout, but it was a comfortable 66 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,839 win for Boise State. But you know, it'll be interesting 67 00:04:23,879 --> 00:04:26,160 to see the Broncos as they get into the teeth 68 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,800 of the Mountain West season how their journey is going 69 00:04:31,879 --> 00:04:35,560 to evolve. The score was forty seven to fourteen, but 70 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,480 that was a twenty seven to fourteen game midway through 71 00:04:39,519 --> 00:04:42,439 the second half. Boise State then gets two touchdowns in 72 00:04:42,519 --> 00:04:47,360 the fourth quarter to make that game much more lopsided. 73 00:04:47,519 --> 00:04:50,240 So it was it was thirty three fourteen through three, 74 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,240 and then Boise State extended that lead late to win 75 00:04:55,319 --> 00:05:02,160 by thirty three points. Not really a whole lot to 76 00:05:02,199 --> 00:05:05,800 talk to talk about, I should say. In the Mountain West, 77 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,480 we're gonna see teams play each other in the top 78 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,040 tier of the conference. It'll be interesting to see how 79 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:17,519 the Mountain West season unfolds as we go along. You know, 80 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,800 the Mountain West has had a disappointing September the American 81 00:05:22,519 --> 00:05:25,519 has clearly been the best Group of five conference. It 82 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,199 has the teams that are being talked about as the 83 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,600 contenders for the Group of five championship, and the birth 84 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:39,240 in the College Football Playoff. Mountain West has really been overshadowed. It's, 85 00:05:39,319 --> 00:05:42,759 you know, and the stories that are emerging from the 86 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:46,839 Mountain West, they're more often negative ones than positive ones. 87 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,639 Colorado State scoring just three points in a loss to 88 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:56,399 Washington State, and Jay Norvel is in trouble in Fort Collins, 89 00:05:56,439 --> 00:06:00,600 you know, shaking up his staff and or at least considering, 90 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,680 you know, the reassignment of roles within his staff. That's 91 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,839 a big talking point for Colorado State football right now. 92 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:10,920 But the Rams have not been good this season, and 93 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:14,199 it just got worse with that twenty to three loss 94 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:16,839 to Washington State. And the other team in the Pack 95 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,160 two or the two pack, whatever your preference is, Oregon 96 00:06:21,199 --> 00:06:24,399 State dominates Houston for three and a half quarters but 97 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,680 then allows too late touchdowns and then loses in overtime. 98 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:33,199 So Trent Bray, who you know that that takeover for 99 00:06:33,319 --> 00:06:37,319 Jonathan Smith after Jonathan Smith left for Michigan State. Trent 100 00:06:37,399 --> 00:06:41,240 Bray was Jonathan Smith's defensive coordinator. He stays in Corvallis. 101 00:06:41,519 --> 00:06:44,399 Players love him, players wanted him to coach that team. 102 00:06:44,759 --> 00:06:48,199 But it's not working zero to five for the Beavers. 103 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,439 And you just can't let a game slip away when 104 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,519 you lead by two touchdowns midway through the fourth quarter. 105 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,920 A lot of you might have stayed up on Friday 106 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,120 night to watch that game and like that, you know, 107 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,959 Oregon State was control until it wasn't. Just completely letting 108 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,480 that game slip away at the very end. Just a 109 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,000 very painful loss and a waste of a generally good 110 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:16,560 performance against Houston. Speaking of Friday night, and this is 111 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,399 this was one of the more interesting games among teams 112 00:07:19,439 --> 00:07:22,079 that we cover here, and get off my piloline. Arizona 113 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,560 State down seventeen to TCU and a heartbeat and then 114 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,160 down by seven late in the fourth quarter. The Sun 115 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:35,120 Devils pulled out close wins throughout last season. You know, 116 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,879 they won so many fifty to fifty games. They were 117 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,079 able to overcome mistakes. They do it again, and this 118 00:07:42,199 --> 00:07:47,120 Arizona State team has already won two twenty seven to 119 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:50,680 twenty four games that it pulled out at the very end. 120 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,319 The Sun Devils continue to win fifty to fifty games 121 00:07:54,759 --> 00:07:57,839 under Kenny Dellingham, it's a it's a crushing loss for 122 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,600 TCU Arizona State now with these wins over Baylor and TCU, Like, 123 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:07,519 we remember how cluttered the Big Twelve race was last season, 124 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:09,639 and we think the Big Twelve breaks is going to 125 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,040 be similarly cluttered and complicated this this year. So Arizona 126 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,600 State is picking up those head to head tie breakers 127 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:20,759 that could really matter as the season goes along. And 128 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:24,720 like no team has yet separated itself from the pack 129 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,079 in the Big Twelve. You could say that Texas Tech 130 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,120 is the favorite. I think that's a reasonable and fair 131 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,639 statement to make. But let's remember Utah's quarterback Devin Dampier 132 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,080 was injured. We talked about that game last week. Here on, 133 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,559 get off my pieline. Let's see Texas Tech, you know, 134 00:08:41,639 --> 00:08:44,159 go through the Big twelve schedule at least a few weeks, 135 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,240 get into mid October, late October, and see if Texas 136 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,559 Tech can separate. But right now, I'm not ready to 137 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:56,200 kind of call anything in the Big Twelve. And so 138 00:08:56,399 --> 00:08:59,679 for now, just Arizona State is collecting those head to 139 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,480 head tiebreakers. Maybe it'll be Arizona State as the second 140 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:07,000 place team in Texas Tech is the first place team 141 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,279 and those two teams will meet for the Big twelve 142 00:09:09,399 --> 00:09:12,120 championship game. But it's just a wait and see situation. 143 00:09:12,799 --> 00:09:17,080 But Arizona State, you know, is not playing great, but 144 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,759 if it has not lost that knack for being able 145 00:09:21,799 --> 00:09:25,480 to rally, lay in games and at the ends of 146 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,279 halves and win games, that you know, we're very much 147 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:35,240 jump balls and and you know we don't cover the 148 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,799 Kansas Jayhawks regularly and get off my pilon. But Kansas 149 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,240 is like the opposite of Arizona State. Kansas is the 150 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:44,799 team that leads Layton games and loses them. Happened again 151 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,360 to Kansas against Cincinnati. Arizona State is on the other 152 00:09:48,399 --> 00:09:51,559 side of that coin. Arizona State's losing games late and 153 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,759 it comes back to win them. So, you know, Kenny Dillingham, obviously, 154 00:09:57,039 --> 00:09:59,559 you know he's gotten through to his players about playing 155 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,039 for six minutes. A lot of coaches will talk about that. 156 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,039 Arizona State's a team that actually does it. Arizona State 157 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:12,960 lives out that that aspiration and that goal that football 158 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:15,600 coaches have. So Kenny Dillingham able to get through to 159 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:19,000 his players in ways that a lot of other coaches aren't. 160 00:10:19,279 --> 00:10:22,159 But you know, Arizona State can't live like that forever. 161 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,759 That's the other point to make. Arizona State needs to 162 00:10:24,799 --> 00:10:28,600 get on top of some of these games. You can't 163 00:10:28,799 --> 00:10:33,320 expect to rally every single time, But Arizona State has 164 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,879 been scrambling to win games this year, just as it 165 00:10:35,919 --> 00:10:40,279 did for most of last season, staying in the Big twelve. 166 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,759 On the western teams, we do cover Utah absolutely throttles 167 00:10:43,799 --> 00:10:48,200 West Virginia. Now West Virginia. You know, I don't know 168 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:52,639 how close attention you're paying to the Mountaineers under Rich Rodriguez, 169 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:57,000 but quarterback, running back, the various skill positions, they are 170 00:10:57,039 --> 00:11:01,480 absolutely decimated at those various like West Virginia is one 171 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:05,000 of the biggest mash units in college football, certainly on 172 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,600 the offensive side of the ball. I'm not sure if 173 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,919 there's a single offense in terms of comparing projected Week 174 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,600 one starters to what the actual depth chart looks like 175 00:11:15,759 --> 00:11:18,720 now and how deep on the depth chart the Mountaineers 176 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:20,840 have had to go. I'm not sure if there's a 177 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:24,919 single offense in the Power for Conferences that has been 178 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,200 as injury ravaged as West Virginia. But anyway, Utah goes 179 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,960 into Morgantown, and you know, if a team is missing five, six, 180 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:39,000 seven bodies prime players on its offense, you should bring 181 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:41,519 down the hammer. So Utah does what's expected. It's a 182 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,519 nice little bounce back from the loss of Texas Tech. 183 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:49,960 Let's see if Utah can now maintain that consistently m 184 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:55,320 the weeks ahead. Also from the big twelve teams in 185 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:00,279 the West, Colorado Byu. They both played late Saturday night. 186 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:03,440 Interesting little game. Colorado throws the first punch, gets up 187 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,639 fourteen to three, but BYU reeled in Colorado as the 188 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:14,879 game went along. Bear Bachmeer quarterback for BYU. He's a dude, running, passing, 189 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,240 command of the game like. He looked very comfortable, very 190 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,399 much in control. That has to make coach Khalani Sataki 191 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,919 feel great about the Cougars and where they are. Byu 192 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,080 didn't look great though. A lot of rough edges in 193 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,440 that game on both sides, and so it's it is 194 00:12:32,519 --> 00:12:37,720 interesting to wonder was this game close because BYU wasn't 195 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:41,600 great great enough to really pull away and hammer Colorado, 196 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:44,440 or was this game close because you know, Colorado is 197 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,519 actually not that bad a team, even without Travis Hunter 198 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,600 and Shadur and maybe the Buffalos are a little bit underrated. 199 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,360 You could kind of go either way with that, and 200 00:12:56,399 --> 00:12:58,320 I think is just let the season play out a 201 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,799 little bit so that we get a great sense of, 202 00:13:00,879 --> 00:13:04,600 you know, just how good or not BYU and Colorado are. 203 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,240 But BYU gets the win on the road in Boulder 204 00:13:07,799 --> 00:13:11,919 at night. Colorado, you know, should be kicking itself because 205 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,240 it got on top of that game and had other 206 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,039 chances to make plays. But the pieces aren't quite fitting 207 00:13:19,639 --> 00:13:24,519 for that offense. Just guys not making the right reads. 208 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,919 Also some dumb penalties as well. There was a big 209 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:32,960 holding penalty that wiped away a long Colorado run that 210 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:35,960 really could have helped the Buffs, I believe in the 211 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,399 second half. So it'll be interesting to see if Colorado 212 00:13:40,519 --> 00:13:45,440 can clean itself up play more airtight football. You know 213 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:49,679 that Deon Sanders is expecting that Colorado did fall short 214 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,200 of expectations. But on the other side, b Yu gets 215 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,679 punched in the mouth, responds well to adversity. That could 216 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,919 be a real catalyst for the road ahead in a 217 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:06,200 very scrambled and uncertain Big twelve college football landscape. All right, 218 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,879 now we get to the feature presentation. And actually, let 219 00:14:11,919 --> 00:14:16,000 me just stuck in. Arizona in the Big twelve obliterated 220 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,440 by Iowa State, and Iowa State was just like a 221 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,519 five to five and a half point favorite. Couldn't believe that. 222 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,960 I think, you know, Arizona beat Kansas State because Kansas 223 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,799 State has been cratering. I know Kansas State won this 224 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,000 past weekend against UCF, but Kansas State's a bad team, 225 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:34,200 and Arizona barely beat Kansas State. I was shocked that 226 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,320 Iowa State was a small favorite and Iowa State just 227 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,279 blows the doors off Arizona. So zero surprise there. Arizona's 228 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,000 not especially good. It's just that Kansas State was worse. 229 00:14:45,159 --> 00:14:48,080 You know, some teams are better, other teams are worse. 230 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,480 We need to emphasize when you're actually good or you're 231 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:57,080 actually more awful. There are gradients here, right, and there 232 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,519 are points of emphasis. Arizona beat Kansas State because azone 233 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,039 was good, but because Kansas State's bad. So I think 234 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,600 the markets kind of misread the value of that Arizona win. 235 00:15:07,679 --> 00:15:09,960 I thought Iowa State was a lot better than Arizona 236 00:15:10,039 --> 00:15:13,360 going in, and of course that is exactly what happened. 237 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,639 All right, Now to the Big ten, just wanted to 238 00:15:15,639 --> 00:15:21,080 make sure not to forget Arizona. Let's start with the 239 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,600 pillow fight in Evanston Ucla and Northwestern seventeen to fourteen. 240 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,840 It was as dull and uninteresting a game as you 241 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,440 might have expected until the very end Ucla with a 242 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:36,159 late rally. Bruins had two possessions, down three points in 243 00:15:36,159 --> 00:15:38,960 the final few minutes, but never came remotely close to 244 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,759 doing anything. Northwestern led this game seventeen to six, had 245 00:15:43,799 --> 00:15:48,879 the ball third and goal inside the UCLA three, got stuffed, 246 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,639 and then instead of going for the touchdown put the 247 00:15:53,679 --> 00:15:56,159 game away, went for a twenty yard field goal. That 248 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,879 twenty yard chip shot gets blocked. Ucla then drives down, 249 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,039 scores a touchdown, gets a two point conversion, and suddenly 250 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:08,759 a game that Northwestern completely dominated for about fifty to 251 00:16:08,799 --> 00:16:13,679 fifty two minutes suddenly became a little bit nervous at 252 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:20,159 the end. But Northwestern's defense completely flattened UCLA's offensive line 253 00:16:20,159 --> 00:16:23,919 on those final two bruined possessions, So really it was 254 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,279 a dull game, brief five minute segment in which UCLA 255 00:16:28,919 --> 00:16:31,720 made a rally and to make it interesting, but ultimately 256 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,720 Northwestern clearly the better team, And so with UCLA. If 257 00:16:36,759 --> 00:16:39,120 you look at the Bruins schedule, they play a lot 258 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,919 of the Big Ten heavyweights. The only two games remaining 259 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,720 on the schedule that seem remotely possible as chances for 260 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:53,639 victories are home against Maryland and at Michigan State. And 261 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:59,039 Maryland's already kicked Wisconsin twenty seven to ten on the road, 262 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,519 and and Michigan State certainly not a good team, but 263 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:06,680 the Spartans actually gave usc A game for three three 264 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,759 and a half quarters a couple of weeks ago. UCLA 265 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:13,680 is looking at oh to twelve. Ucla is likely to 266 00:17:13,759 --> 00:17:17,640 have the big donut, the big bagel zero and twelve. 267 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,160 It's an absolute humiliation and the thing you need to 268 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,839 emphasize about UCLA, in addition to everything else that we've 269 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,519 been saying here on get off my pion over the 270 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:33,079 past month. Notice how Joey Aggie Are of Tennessee has 271 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,880 played so well with the Valls after leaving UCLA. And 272 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,519 there's another quarterback who left UCLA and he's now thriving. 273 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:43,240 We're gonna be talking about him in a little bit. 274 00:17:43,279 --> 00:17:46,960 But like players leave UCLA, they instantly get better. Tells 275 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,519 you how bad the coaching has been at UCLA. So 276 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,839 Tim Skippers, the interim taking over from Deshaun Foster, he's 277 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,640 just inheriting the mess here, so like, we're not gonna 278 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,079 be criticizing Tim Skipper. This is all what Deshan Foster 279 00:18:02,759 --> 00:18:06,839 left behind, the wreckage that Tim Skipper, the interim, has 280 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,680 to sort through. And it does reinforce one point that 281 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:16,240 UCLA has to fire Athletic Director Martin Jarmond, the guy 282 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,799 who created this whole disaster. He has to be cleared 283 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,119 out of there before UCLA and barks on a new 284 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,359 head coaching search, and new candidates are not gonna want 285 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,799 Jarmond in there in any way, shape or form. UCLA 286 00:18:30,839 --> 00:18:34,920 needs to fire the ad who can't manage the football program. 287 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:40,000 That's the revenue generator. UCLA needs that revenue. Remember, UCLA 288 00:18:40,079 --> 00:18:45,279 is paying calimony, calimony, the ten million dollar fee to 289 00:18:45,599 --> 00:18:49,119 Berkeley for leaving for the Big ten. You know, cal 290 00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:54,960 squeeze some money out of UCLA. The California University of 291 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,400 California Board of Regions, you know, demanded that UCLA needs 292 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,240 money to offset those calimony payments. You need to put 293 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:06,519 butts in the seats at the Rose Bowl. Martin Jarmond 294 00:19:06,519 --> 00:19:11,480 needs to be fired at UCLA. Ohio State Washington. This 295 00:19:11,599 --> 00:19:14,599 was pretty simple. Ohio State has an elite defense and 296 00:19:14,759 --> 00:19:18,359 Washington's offense just not there, just not at the level 297 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:22,240 ready to compete with the Buckeyes. And you know, so Jedfish, 298 00:19:24,279 --> 00:19:27,279 you know, he didn't have a great quarterback last year 299 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,720 and it's still very much a work in progress this 300 00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:35,000 year in Seattle. You know, he didn't get Noah Fafita, 301 00:19:35,279 --> 00:19:39,240 whom he coached expertly at Arizona a few years ago. 302 00:19:39,279 --> 00:19:42,839 He didn't get Noah Fafita to come with him from 303 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,599 Tucson to Seattle. That was a big swing and miss 304 00:19:46,599 --> 00:19:50,000 for Jed Fish and he's still paying the price for that. Washington, 305 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,880 you know, not able to play offense at the level 306 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,079 that it had with Kaylin de Boer and Michael Pennix. 307 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,279 Washington's offense just not ready for prime time against Ohio State. Now, 308 00:20:01,279 --> 00:20:04,720 the Husky's defense was fine. Ohio State scores just twenty 309 00:20:04,759 --> 00:20:08,480 four points. Julian Sayan with some growing pains for the Buckeys. 310 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,400 When Ohio State goes up against better competition, you know, 311 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,559 that offense might might get contained and Ohio State might 312 00:20:15,599 --> 00:20:19,839 lose a twenty to seventeen type of slugfest. But against Washington, 313 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,279 the UDUB offense just not remotely ready for what was 314 00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:27,839 coming on the other side of the ball against the 315 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,720 Buckeye defense and coordinator Matt Patricia with his NFL experience, 316 00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:37,240 the Ohio State defense shut down arch Manning and now 317 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:42,359 shut down Washington, and arch Manning's been mediocre Saturday. Washington's 318 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,920 offense was mediocre. Next in our tour of the Big Ten, 319 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,440 USC loses to Illinois, and I you know, I cover 320 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,440 USC at Trojan's wire, and like, what is there left 321 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,920 to say about Lincoln Riley's USC football program? You saw 322 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,319 that if you saw that game against Illinois, you immediately 323 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,160 connected it to last year. Like that lost to Illinois 324 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,839 was basically just twenty twenty four, over and over and 325 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,119 over and over again. USC would lead in the fourth 326 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,160 quarter at some point, but would ultimately lose the game. 327 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,559 Late Trojans playing to the level of their competition, no more, 328 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,200 no less, but you know, playing a fifty to fifty 329 00:21:23,279 --> 00:21:27,480 game and just always sitting on that ledge between victory 330 00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:32,720 and defeat and on the road usually losing. USC lost 331 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:36,480 to Minnesota last year, lost to Maryland last year on 332 00:21:36,519 --> 00:21:39,880 the road, close games, but in the fourth quarter not 333 00:21:40,079 --> 00:21:43,680 making the extra handful of plays. Now, USC was bitterly 334 00:21:43,759 --> 00:21:47,799 unlucky in one specific ways. Safety Kamari Ramsey, who's been 335 00:21:47,799 --> 00:21:51,079 playing Nickel, comes up with a case of food poisoning. 336 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,039 He doesn't play, so us he's already banged up secondary. 337 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:59,079 They've been missing a couple guys. Prophet Brown most notably, 338 00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:02,240 coaches raved about him in preseason camp, but you know 339 00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:05,480 he's not he has not been playing, he has not 340 00:22:05,599 --> 00:22:09,000 been available. So they were already shorthanded to begin with. 341 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,799 Without profit Brown. Now you take away Kamari Ramsey, that 342 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,920 secondary was in trouble, and the equation for the USC 343 00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:22,599 defense under coordinator Danton Linn has been the pass rush 344 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,759 needs to get home to help out the secondary. Saturday 345 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:29,160 against Illinois, the pass rush did not get home. The 346 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,640 defensive line did not sack Luke Altmyer once us he 347 00:22:33,759 --> 00:22:36,039 got one sack of Altmyer, but that was on a 348 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,319 blitz from the secondary. The defensive front got handled and 349 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,480 so that that secondary, banged up limited was hung out 350 00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:47,440 to dry. And it leads to, you know, the real 351 00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:51,319 crucial point on which this game turned, and it was 352 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,839 when USC scored a touchdown with one fifty five left 353 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,920 to take a thirty two to thirty one lead. Now, 354 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,359 some might say, wait, the turning point was when USC 355 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,079 scored a touchdown in a game US he lost. Yes. Yes, 356 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,599 Because if you are a coach who has a very 357 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,759 very limited unit on one side of the ball, you 358 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,559 need the other unit to be the group that decides 359 00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:22,079 the game. All right. So USC's defense, whose pass rush 360 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:28,240 was ineffective and whose secondary was extremely limited and undermanned, 361 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,079 was not going to stop Illinois. It didn't stop Illinois. 362 00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: You know. 363 00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 3: Illinois finished the game with thirty four points. But Illinois 364 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,839 fumbled inside the three yard line the USC three yard 365 00:23:39,839 --> 00:23:43,680 line twice, so Illinois could have come close to hanging 366 00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:47,640 fifty on this USC defense. It was just a mismatch. 367 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:51,440 The defensive line wasn't playing well, and that meant that 368 00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:55,079 the secondary was just fresh meat all day long. So 369 00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:59,160 if you're Lincoln Riley and you have your down thirty 370 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,960 one to twenty five at the two minute warning, and 371 00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:04,759 Illinois has all three timeouts and USC has first intent 372 00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:09,400 at the seventeen, you need to be thinking not about scoring. 373 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,920 You need to be thinking about all right. I need 374 00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:16,440 at first intent at the seventeen, I need to get 375 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,039 a first down inside the seven, and I need to 376 00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:25,119 get that first down on multiple plays to exhaust Illinois timeouts. 377 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,519 And then once I get that first down inside the seven, 378 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,400 with Illinois now out of timeouts, I'm gonna run the 379 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,279 ball a couple more times and then I'm gonna score 380 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,680 with no more than fifteen to twenty seconds left. Now 381 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,680 can you orchestrate a situation like that, you know, to 382 00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:46,920 the exact final detail, not necessarily like the green Bay Packers, 383 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,680 Just to offer you a comparison, the Packers were in 384 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,079 a very similar situation to USC and lincoln' riilly on 385 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,519 that Sunday night football game against the Cowboys. They were 386 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:04,279 trailing two minute warning. Dallas had three timeouts. Green Bay 387 00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:07,279 had first and ten at the fifteen. So USC was 388 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,839 first and ten at the seventeen. Now, the one key difference, 389 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:18,960 green Bay was down three, not six, so like the 390 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,079 field goal was in the back pocket. But nevertheless, it 391 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,599 was a situation where you know you're at the two 392 00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:31,359 minute warning and you don't want to you don't want 393 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,039 to score too early, and you know that your defense 394 00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:36,799 is just having a terrible night. What you want to 395 00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:39,240 at least try to do is at the very least 396 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,880 drain the opponent's timeouts. Make it a little more difficult 397 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:49,480 if you do score the touchdowns somewhat early. So let's 398 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:52,319 go just go back and forth on this, green Bay, 399 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,799 as it turned out, it did, you know, try to 400 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,720 run the ball a couple times. Now, those running plays 401 00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:02,359 didn't really do anything, They didn't go anywhere, they weren't 402 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,160 executed well. But at least green Bay drained two of 403 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,519 Dallas's timeouts. And then third and ten. Yeah, you have 404 00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:11,480 to go for the touchdown, right, or at least you 405 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:15,359 have to be throwing the ball downfield. And so green 406 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,119 Bay did score on the third and ten. Dallas, of course, 407 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,039 did have plenty of time to get a touchdown the 408 00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:25,799 other way, and the game goes into overtime eventually. But 409 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:31,359 green Bay at least tried to slow walk the ball 410 00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:35,519 into the end zone and did at least achieve the 411 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:41,240 smaller goal of draining a couple Dallas timeouts. USC under 412 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,640 Lincoln Rally, didn't try it at all. First and ten, 413 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,720 throw right into the end zone, score with one fifty 414 00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:50,400 five left, didn't wait, didn't drain any clock, didn't drain 415 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:55,400 any of Illinois's timeouts. So just like not even trying, 416 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,920 not even making any sort of effort to make illinois 417 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,599 situation more difficult, you know, leaving Illinois with all three 418 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,160 time outs and nearly the whole two minutes. You know, 419 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,960 people will disagree with me, but you know what, like 420 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:17,039 game management and the way you use strategy lad in 421 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,119 games like this is just a point where I think 422 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,200 the whole coaching community is behind the curve. You know, 423 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,960 we do. It's so to be fair to Lincoln Riley, 424 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,160 I'll be fair to Lincoln Rally in this one respect. 425 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:36,680 He's not unique. Almost every coach thinks along the same 426 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:40,200 lines that he does. Whoh, it's just it's hard to score, 427 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,240 so you just have to score. You can't worry about 428 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,119 the other details. But I'm going to really push back 429 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,480 on this because if you have a strong offense and 430 00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:54,279 you have a week defense either structurally weak or you're 431 00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:58,039 just not playing well on that given day, you need 432 00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:03,839 to go down swinging with your stronger unit, with your offense. 433 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,519 It's just the way it is. Obviously, you want your 434 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:11,039 defense to be good, you want your defense to be better. 435 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:14,880 But if your defense either is bad or is having 436 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,519 a bad day, or is really undermanned and under resourced, 437 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,960 and all three things applied to that USC defense on 438 00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:28,559 that day in Champagne on Saturday. You have to try to, 439 00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:34,960 you know, engineer that slow walk on offense, run the ball, 440 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,279 short pass, get a first down in two or three plays, 441 00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:42,640 drain Illinois timeouts, get a first and goal with the 442 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,480 six or the five, run another play, second and goal 443 00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:49,680 with the three, and then score your touchdown on second 444 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,680 down or third down with fifteen seconds left. Coaches are 445 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,960 gonna say, that's hard. You know what football is hard, 446 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,119 Winning's hard. Life is hard, Like you need to try 447 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,839 to learn how to do these things. You need to 448 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,200 tell your elite offense, Hey, we're gonna do this thing. 449 00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:11,279 We're gonna not only score, but we're gonna use up 450 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,680 a minute and a half minute forty five. We're gonna 451 00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:17,960 drain all three timeouts. We're gonna get that first down. 452 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,839 You know, we're not gonna it's not gonna be instant 453 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,759 gratification where we just score right away. Wee wee. No, 454 00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:27,839 we're gonna take our time. We're gonna get our first 455 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,559 down in two or three plays, and then we're gonna 456 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:33,119 get a touchdown on two or three more plays, and 457 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,359 we're gonna do this thing, and we're gonna help our 458 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,000 teammates on defense. We're gonna help those guys on defense 459 00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:42,519 who are having a bad day, who've been overexposed and 460 00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:48,039 who are undermanned. Like that is winning football, that's winning competition. 461 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,279 You let the game be decided with your strength, and 462 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,920 you can say till the end of time, it's hard 463 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,039 to score, it's hard to win. But if you need 464 00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:01,720 to keep your defen defense off the field for as 465 00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:05,559 much as possible in the final two minutes, you do that, 466 00:30:05,759 --> 00:30:09,720 you at least make the effort. That's the thing, right, 467 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,319 you know. With let's go back to the Packers against 468 00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:17,119 the Cowboys. The Packers did two running plays they didn't work, 469 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,559 but then on third and ten they scored the touchdown. 470 00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:23,160 They didn't run a lot of clock, but they tried. 471 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,200 They tried, and at least they shaved away two Dallas 472 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,519 Cowboy timeouts, so they achieved something. They tried, They made 473 00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:35,039 an effort. It didn't go perfectly, but they made the effort. 474 00:30:35,079 --> 00:30:38,440 So you're thinking, all right, they you know, the coaching 475 00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:45,000 staff was making that attempt to let the offense decide 476 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,359 the game and not let their their bad defense be 477 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,039 you know, on the field in the crunch time moments 478 00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:55,920 of that game. USC and Lincoln Rowdy didn't even try. 479 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,440 And that's what really frosts me from a USC perspective, 480 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,839 you know, covering this team as I do about that game. 481 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,519 Lincoln Riley's been a bad game manager for bad game 482 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:11,480 manager for a very long time. He's not interested in improving, 483 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,799 He's not interested in kind of really digging deeper to 484 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,559 help his team, to protect his defense and do the 485 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,279 difficult things that are needed to win games. And so 486 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,240 USC is just stuck in this groundhog day where it 487 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:31,000 just keeps losing these close, big ten road games at 488 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,880 the very end and just not taking care of extra details. 489 00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:40,000 And so until Lincoln Riley really improves his coaching, and 490 00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:42,839 we don't know if he will, USC is going to 491 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,920 be stuck, all right, So we saved the best for 492 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,759 last year and get off my pilot. Oregon, Penn State, 493 00:31:49,119 --> 00:31:54,160 The Big Showdown, Primetime, Happy Valley, the Wide Out. And 494 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,359 I mentioned earlier when talking about UCLA, then when quarterbacks 495 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,440 leave the Bruins, they leave Westwood, they thrive in other places. 496 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,160 So Joey agiar. He leaves Ucla, thrives at Tennessee. Dante 497 00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:11,079 More leaves Ucla. He sat all last year behind Dylan Gabriel, 498 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,920 and this was his big national close up, and he 499 00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:18,000 obviously passed the test. And you can see the physical gifts. 500 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,359 You can see the speed and the mobility in the pocket. 501 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,480 You can see those crossbody crossfield throws under pressure, like 502 00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:29,839 that crossfield throw he made in the second half. That 503 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,079 was an ale. That was an NFL level play, and 504 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,720 Dante More then keeps a level head into overtime. Oregon 505 00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:40,319 is able to tie Penn State in the first overtime, 506 00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:43,319 take the lead in the second, and then Drew Auer 507 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,480 gets intercepted and Oregon in a game it did control 508 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:51,200 most of the way. You know, Oregon was up by 509 00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:55,640 fourteen points, seventeen to three, and I thought the game 510 00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:58,480 was done. Then early in the fourth quarter, Penn State 511 00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:02,880 then somehow rallied an abruptly lost control of a game 512 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,279 it had been dominating up to that point. For Oregon 513 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,440 was the better team most of the night, and Oregon 514 00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:11,920 does wind up with a win that it fully deserved. 515 00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:15,599 Dante Moore, you know, he's not very experienced. He hasn't 516 00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:18,799 had he hasn't played a full season of college football. 517 00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,240 Drew Hour, you know, he's had multiple go rounds with 518 00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,799 this thing. He comes back for one more season. You 519 00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:28,640 would never have guessed if you did not know how 520 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,839 experienced these two quarterbacks are. Who was the veteran and 521 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:38,319 who was you know, the comparatively less tested quarterback in 522 00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:43,079 this game? Dante Moore quite a lot better than than 523 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:48,720 Drew Hour. Penn State very clunky. Uh just just looked slow. 524 00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:53,119 Oregon looked a lot faster, stronger for most of this game. 525 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,640 So you know, if you're Oregon, I mean, you have 526 00:33:56,839 --> 00:34:02,720 this win sealed that the Ducks already have one foot 527 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,920 in the door for the college football playoff. Dan Lanning, 528 00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:10,079 you know, continuing to have the right culture, the right mindset. 529 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,960 You know, it's not as though Oregon played a brilliant game, 530 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,360 because this was a three to three rock fight for 531 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,480 two and a half quarters. You know, Oregon's offense didn't 532 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:23,639 exactly look all that impressive, But then Oregon really turned on. 533 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,400 The Jets got the seventeen to three lead, then you know, 534 00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,440 briefly lost focus, but was able to pull it back 535 00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:35,440 in overtime. Dan Lanning He nails so many things about coaching, 536 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,880 the culture, the mindset, the work ethic, the mentality, and 537 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:45,280 he does recruit very good players who have speed, who 538 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,679 have a lot of talent. It comes together on the field. 539 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,239 You know, we can we can perhaps quibble with some 540 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,360 of his fourth down decisions there. You know, there are 541 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,079 certain times when I think he oversteps the mark. But 542 00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:03,360 for the most part, Dan Lanning gets a lot of 543 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,199 pieces of the puzzle right in the coaching profession, and 544 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,760 certainly he's getting a lot more things right than James Franklin, 545 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:16,039 who suffers another loss to a top ten team. And 546 00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:19,280 the discussion after this game was really interesting in terms of, 547 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,719 you know, this might not be Some people were saying 548 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,800 this loss might not be the worst thing for Penn 549 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,559 State because you know, they might still host a game, 550 00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:30,480 but they'll get into the first round, and so like 551 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,440 by playing in the first round, they'll stay kind of 552 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:38,719 sharp instead of that buye into the quarterfinals. And your 553 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,519 Oregon had the bye last season and then was absolutely 554 00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:46,039 pancake flat in the Rose Bowl against the Ohio State 555 00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:48,679 team that was playing a first round game. It's a 556 00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:51,480 lot like the Major League Baseball playoffs. This week, A 557 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,360 lot of people think, you know, it's good to play 558 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,719 that wildcard series because when you win it, then you 559 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,320 go into the LDS, the division series with fresh momentum, 560 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,639 and guys have come through a really big test that 561 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,679 three game wild card series, and they're sharper, they're more polished. 562 00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:13,760 The other team that with the buy that sits around 563 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,880 for a week can be flat. We've seen that happen 564 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,880 in baseball plenty of times in recent years, so the 565 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,119 logic carries over to football. Some people are saying, well, 566 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,559 Penn State's not going to get a buye. Penn State 567 00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:27,960 can now go to the first round, play a home game, 568 00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:30,920 win that and then move forward. But here's the thing, 569 00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:34,079 here's the count. Here's the counter argument to that point 570 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,880 about Penn State. First off, Penn State now can lose 571 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,679 one more game. They can't lose two. Penn State plays Indiana, 572 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,800 that's going to be really tough, and there are other 573 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,960 tough games on Penn State schedule. Nindie Lyons have now 574 00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:50,800 just one more game, they can lose ten and two. 575 00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:53,159 They can't be nine to three, they have to be 576 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,639 ten and two. So already the margins have shrunk for 577 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,679 Penn State. But The other thing is, let's remember Penn 578 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,280 State had that SMU Boise State bracket path in the 579 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,679 playoff last season. But now we've made the playoff, has 580 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,960 made the change where the top four teams, they're not 581 00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:15,199 conference champions, they're the best teams. So Penn State's not 582 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,920 going to get into a situation where it plays SMU 583 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:21,199 in the first round and then plays Boise State in 584 00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:23,719 the second round. No, Penn State's gonna have to play 585 00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:27,880 legitimate top ten teams, and so James Franklin's record against 586 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,400 top ten teams, uh oh, Penn State's in trouble. And 587 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,679 this was supposed to be the year Penn State put 588 00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:36,440 it all together and was a prime national title contender. 589 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,440 Then ee Lions did not look the part. And Oregon 590 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:42,679 played a really big role in making that happen. So 591 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,920 Dante Moore passes his test. Oregon is a team you know, 592 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:52,239 showed toughness and showed resilience. But now, you know, the 593 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,519 other thing in the Big Ten is we look forward. 594 00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:57,639 Oregon's going to be hosting Indiana, you know, getting that 595 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,199 game at home that's going to be really important in 596 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,519 Austin Stadium. Oregon probably is going to win that. You know, 597 00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:08,679 Indiana did struggle at Kinnick Stadium in Iowa City against 598 00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:14,880 the Hawkeyes, but you know, in Ohio State with its 599 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,079 offense struggling, I think you have to put Oregon at 600 00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:20,920 the top of the Big Ten right now. If you 601 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,480 were to say who's the favorite in the Big Ten, 602 00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:27,000 I would put Oregon over Ohio State because with with 603 00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:32,880 Ohio State, with Julian saying that limited offense outplay Penn 604 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,599 State's defense, I don't know. I'm not convinced of that. 605 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:41,119 You know, Ohio State was able to outclass Washington and 606 00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:45,639 separate itself there. But you know, an Ohio State Penn 607 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,719 State game, you know, Oregon Penn State was three to 608 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,440 three for about forty minutes. Ohio State Penn State might 609 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,559 be three to three for fifty five minutes. I'm definitely 610 00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:02,400 taking the under in that particular game. So right now, 611 00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:06,119 I would say Oregon is number one in the Big Ten. 612 00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:09,840 If if you wanted to make an Oregon Ohio State comparison, 613 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,760 you know, arch Manning playing as poorly as he has played, 614 00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:19,360 Ohio State beating arch Manning fourteen to seven, that's not 615 00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:24,039 nearly as impressive as Oregon winning on the road in 616 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:27,280 Happy Valley at night against Drew Hollard. I know Drew 617 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,920 Hour is not that good, but like an experienced quarterback 618 00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:35,239 unlike Arch Manning, and you're doing it at night in 619 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,559 a very difficult road environment. That is clearly a much 620 00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:42,400 much better win on the Oregon side of the ledger 621 00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:48,440 than Ohio State's wins over both Texas and Washington. So Oregon, 622 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,039 we're gonna be saying Oregon in the inn probably well 623 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,719 probably not definitely the playoff, and very probably the quarterfinal round. 624 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,239 As Big Ten champion, the Ducks are on their way 625 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,960 to playing January football. Dan Lanning has that program exactly 626 00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:10,639 where he wants it, So that's a lot to chew 627 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,239 on for Week five. That Oregon penn State games certainly 628 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,639 lived up to the hype in terms of drama. It wasn't, 629 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,880 you know, majestic football for most of the night, but 630 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,719 that fourth quarter was certainly very compelling. The game came 631 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,800 alive after the three to three rock fight for the 632 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,960 first forty minutes, the last twenty and then the overtimes 633 00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:36,119 absolute cinema in central Pennsylvania. So we'll see what Oregon 634 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,559 and the other top teams that the Big Ten do 635 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,239 in the coming weeks. But like we began to learn, 636 00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:47,599 we haven't finished learning, but we began to learn where 637 00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:51,639 these Big ten teams stand in the balance of power 638 00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:56,920 in one of college football's foremost conferences. So that is 639 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,360 this week's show. Get Off My Pylon, part of the 640 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,119 College Grade Coast to Coast podcast network. Go to Gridiron 641 00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:06,800 Coast on Twitter for all the shows. Visit and listen 642 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,199 to our family of shows, Big Ten Paradigm. Noah Drury 643 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,599 has more on that Oregon penn State game. Of course, 644 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,440 you want to listen to that Yards and Stripes on 645 00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:18,719 the Service Academies, I mean Navy playing some ball. Navy's 646 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,280 undefeated very much in the mix of the Group of 647 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,760 Five championship. So Yards and Stripes, as you covered there, 648 00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:30,360 the All Sports Discussion podcast and Jason Powers Florida Football 649 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,719 Insiders podcast, they're both gonna be teeing up that big 650 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,760 Miami Florida State game that's coming up this weekend in 651 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,119 week six. 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