WEBVTT 1 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:31.600 Did anybody give it ain't married? 2 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:33.600 Then a cab crew up in. 3 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:40.439 This joint, ma'am. Welcome back to Going Home means I'm 4 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:45.520 a past d J along with the original gay Sir Cabby. Yeah, 5 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:48.799 leking a playing with it. Don't try to make me jealous, Nathan, 6 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:51.479 this early in the show, wait till we get a 7 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:52.359 little bit into it. 8 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:52.600 Man. 9 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:58.200 Yeah, yeah, look at him, yeah, leading him. You're so good. Yeah, 10 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.759 it's getting out of control, man, I gotta share. Everything's 11 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:03.119 getting getting out of control. I gotta zip it up 12 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:06.200 a little bit, all right. So right there to my 13 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:11.319 left hand, right there is the brother Money Nathan, the 14 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:13.719 co creator of Calling All Beings. 15 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:18.680 Greeting Friends Thursday evening or morning wherever you might be 16 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:21.400 good to be with you, guys, Guys, I've been looking 17 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:23.439 forward to the show all week. It's gonna be a 18 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:24.000 real banger. 19 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:26.159 Excited what you got to say about our guests? 20 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:27.920 Man, he's the goat. 21 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:34.040 He used the goat the coat for real, exactly. He's 22 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:36.319 like the Derek Jeter if this was New York Yankees. 23 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:40.760 Below him is one of the original gangsters of Calling 24 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:43.680 All Beings, and she is a study of UAP. We 25 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:46.599 like to call her Debs. We put another S on 26 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:49.000 the end of it for absolutely no reason other than 27 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:59.439 it's adorable. High debths. Okay, Hi, remember pleasure. Hi, awesome, 28 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:03.040 nice to meet. You must say how to people in 29 00:02:03.079 --> 00:02:05.959 the chat real quick before we bring before we bring 30 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.400 on our guests of honor. But the one with the 31 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:11.120 curly locks to Devs. I guess it would be Dev's right. 32 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:14.080 She's just below me in this Brady bunch thing that 33 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:16.039 we got going on here. We don't know if she's 34 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:19.919 in Montana, Alaska, if she's finding Bigfoot or running away 35 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:23.560 from Bigfoot. She is Courtney connected. 36 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:27.560 Hey, Hey, hey, y'all, it's great to be back on CAV. 37 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:30.560 I'm so excited about our guest tonight. He's one of 38 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:33.360 my personal favorites. And I've been thinking about some really 39 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:38.240 really good questions untraditional lines of inquiry, so it's gonna 40 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:42.039 be colorful, you know it. 41 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:46.840 All right? I just want to say hello in the chat. 42 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:50.280 The og is here, Julie, Hello, Julie Faddle. How about 43 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:57.039 you love? Carolina's here? Disclosure ladies. I assume that's Carolina, right, Hi, Carolina, 44 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:02.800 Julie talking about James channel right there, engaging the this 45 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:06.120 young lady I got to meet at the Free car 46 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:09.639 and reed meal of food Amy positive Pathways. She is 47 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:13.360 in the same line as deb and Courtney here. She 48 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:17.319 don't counsel people, and she done did all that while 49 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:19.800 she was pregnant, going to school, taking care of business. 50 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:24.000 This right here, of course, is co host of the 51 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:27.680 FKR Business be up Ba the do O DOUBLEG as 52 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:31.639 we like to call her. I think that's it. Yeah, 53 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:36.879 Scott McGinnis is here, dumb question. What phenomenon has You're 54 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:40.400 gonna find out? That's why you're watching Scott. All right, 55 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:47.400 Rocker chickens here from Canada, Oh, Canada. And let's see 56 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:49.759 anybody else we got in here that needs to say hello? 57 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:53.800 Due now. Oh, Lula Belle is here also from Massachusetts, 58 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:57.159 So what's up, homegirl? Thank you for coming in. And 59 00:03:57.199 --> 00:04:00.039 we're gonna get into some talk with one of the 60 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:04.159 Opus brothers that we know in the business. And what 61 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:08.439 I mean by that is this gentleman is extremely educated 62 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:12.240 and well read. It doesn't matter really what tangent of 63 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:15.000 the phenomenon that you wish to speak about. Thank you, Nathan, 64 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:18.639 Which tangent in the phenomenon that you wish to speak about? 65 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:21.839 Because he is knowledgeable on all of them. He's talked 66 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:25.319 to the government people, he is an experiencer, He's spoken 67 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:30.720 with experiencers, thought leaders, professors. He is one of our 68 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:34.519 favorite people. He's my friend. Actually, he's all of our friend. 69 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.600 I just happened to have gotten to see him most 70 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:40.959 recently when I was in my hometown. So, without further ado, 71 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:44.959 please party people putting up the mans together for the 72 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:54.639 main James. I'm going then, I get it here for James, 73 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.199 I am Dollie ay man. 74 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:06.000 What's up, bron Guys. Good to have you with the 75 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:08.879 best the standing ovision I've ever gotten. 76 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:10.600 If you need a hype squad, man, we are here 77 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:11.360 for you, brother. 78 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:14.040 Yes, yeah, you got it right. This is your hype 79 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:17.600 squad right here sitting around you. James. So it's an 80 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:18.560 honor to have you back. 81 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:19.480 Uh. 82 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:21.600 And with that, I'm gonna let Nathan take this damn 83 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:25.800 thing away because we we got all kinds of directions 84 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:27.040 we wants to go with you. 85 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:30.120 All right, we do, James? All right, I'm doing something 86 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:34.639 I've never done with this first question. Okay, so no pressure, 87 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:36.720 but I want you to take it just a pause here. 88 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:38.839 I have thirteen questions I'm not gonna be able to 89 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:41.319 ask you all of these, So I want you to 90 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:42.920 pick a number, and that's the one I'm going to 91 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:45.439 ask you. I just want you to feel into this. What's 92 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:47.720 what's the number that you'd like me to ask you? 93 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:48.759 First question? 94 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:49.639 Thirteen? 95 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:52.959 WHOA, I love it. 96 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:53.680 I love it, all right. 97 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:56.040 I knew it was gonna be thirteen. I knew it. 98 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:59.120 Wow, I can't believe. 99 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:00.800 It makes you know? 100 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:01.000 So? 101 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:01.680 All right? 102 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:04.360 So this is this is late breaking news. I just 103 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:08.439 literally read this a second ago. So ask a poll. 104 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:11.279 You know, Matt Laslow's doing hard work. He's asking lots 105 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:14.759 of folks down the hill questions, hard questions. He just 106 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:19.680 recently interviewed or got a sound bite from Senator Corey 107 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:23.480 Booker about the drone incursions. And Corey Booker just told 108 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:27.279 Matt that he was told, Corey was told directly by 109 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:30.319 officials that that is not the case, that the FAA 110 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:35.279 did not authorize these drones. So what are your thoughts 111 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:39.160 on drone gate? You know, what, what is the picture, 112 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:41.319 what is going on there? What do you feel in 113 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:44.079 your in your connection to to this phenomena. Do you 114 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:47.120 think there is an n HI component to this? And 115 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:51.199 if there isn't n HI component, why why is it 116 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:57.040 happening now? Why the intermingling with seemingly some prosaic drones? 117 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:04.399 Wow? You know, I I really don't know, because a 118 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:09.360 lot of what I've seen is prosaic. And what I mean, 119 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:13.480 what I mean by prosaic is human technology. Even if 120 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:18.319 there's like some classified technology involved, you know, whether it's 121 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:22.560 ours or others. Most of what I've seen is seems 122 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:25.759 to be conventional human technology, even if it's if it's 123 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:31.240 clandestine technology or classified technology. Uh, there's a lot of 124 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:36.360 interesting reports, but you know, other than that, nothing stands 125 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:38.720 out to me as like, Wow, this is like the 126 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:43.319 phenomenon taking the chance to engage with us in a 127 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:45.959 proactive way. It doesn't seem to me like one of 128 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:54.079 those scenarios that if anything, if if this was a flap, 129 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:57.399 like a UFO wave or UFO flap, it seems conjured, 130 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:00.600 you know, in the sense where I would say, in 131 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:05.879 in this case, it seems more like stagecraft rather than 132 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:10.279 the phenomenon itself. Just that's just my speculation on it, 133 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.959 from being you know, half informed. I haven't done like 134 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:15.720 a super deep dive on it, but I have been 135 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:19.480 keeping notes on it, and and that's that's my best take. 136 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:22.680 When he says he hasn't done a super deep dive, 137 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:25.519 he means he hasn't called me, because that's sense. I'm 138 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:28.120 just kidding. I'm just kidding, everybody, Please continue. 139 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:30.120 He's the expert. Yeah, no, And I think it's a 140 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:33.519 good take, and it has had a pretty stimulating effect 141 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:36.440 I think on maybe the public conversation just because it 142 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:39.200 is so maybe fantastical. So what are your thoughts on 143 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:39.919 on that kind of. 144 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:44.960 Well, so exactly right. And I think that the the 145 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:49.879 UFO or the UAP conversation that's now reached the mainstream narrative, 146 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:54.360 you know, whether it's it's popular or not, in the 147 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.799 sense of, well, there's still this kind of plausible deniability aspect. 148 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:01.840 There's no doubt it's a mainstream in conversation now, but 149 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:06.559 that you know, that's exactly an excellent cover for if 150 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:12.720 you are trying to either test the public, test the 151 00:09:12.759 --> 00:09:18.039 reaction and communication systems from you know, local regional first 152 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:22.279 responders and how they would respond to such such kind 153 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:26.799 of things. So again, just just in my own perspective, 154 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:32.679 it seems very human and UAP is like the perfect cover, 155 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:35.759 especially with the current conversation going on, whether it be 156 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:36.759 domestic or foreign. 157 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:40.279 Love it, love it all right, I wanna pass it 158 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:42.000 off to deb and she's got a bunch of questions 159 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:42.440 as well. 160 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:48.720 Okay, So, also in recent news, Representative Luna came forward 161 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:55.000 and discussed the task force regarding disclosure of well, let's 162 00:09:55.039 --> 00:10:00.360 just say secrets held by the government, and some people 163 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.480 have high hopes that this will also lead to disclosure 164 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.679 for UAP. What are your thoughts about the potential of 165 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:08.919 this task for us. 166 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:14.440 I think it's a step in the right direction, but 167 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:19.840 I think initially, you know, you're you're kind of mixing 168 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:24.720 in all these different things now, and so you're going 169 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:29.720 to further stigmatize the subject in a sense where it's 170 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:33.639 now being thrown into a conspiracy basket, where it's being 171 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:35.639 put into a basket now with a bunch of other 172 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:39.799 hot topics that people do not want to touch, right 173 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:43.480 Like somebody people might be interested in UAP transparency, but 174 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:45.720 now there's all these other items on the list that 175 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:51.039 are going to like instantly turn people off because they 176 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:54.000 don't want to look there, and it's too much at once. 177 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:59.080 I mean, I you know, personally, as an American as 178 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:04.080 the United States City. I like the idea that they're 179 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:09.399 going to transparency route, but you know, now you're mixing 180 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:14.399 all these other things into the UAP conversation on transparency, 181 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:17.120 and you know, it has the potential to complicate and 182 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:20.519 stigmatize the issue a little bit more and make it 183 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:26.320 a little bit more politically charged based on the kind 184 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:33.440 of demographics that have certain viewpoints on those hot button issues. 185 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:37.600 So ultimately, I do think it's a good thing, but 186 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:41.240 you know, there may be a lot of knee jerk 187 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:43.919 reactions and now UAP is going to be thrown back 188 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.799 again into like this conspiracy mix because of all the 189 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:49.759 other issues that are being pushed forward in that committee 190 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:53.799 and the oversight. Again, I think more oversight's better. I 191 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:57.440 think we deserve transparency in all these issues, but again 192 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:00.200 it's now it's being mixed in in this cold n 193 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:04.039 of other issues that people don't want to look at. 194 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:07.320 So it could it could be complicated even not to do. 195 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:12.120 Can I ask them quick follow ups or you can 196 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:16.759 just say yes or no on this One person mentioned 197 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.799 the possibility that this could actually be used to continue 198 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:23.240 lies and cover up. 199 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:26.080 Do you think that there's any possibility of that yes 200 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:26.799 or no is fine. 201 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:33.480 I mean, there's always the possibility, but I think we're 202 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:36.039 at the point where that that does not even matter. 203 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:44.559 Okay, fair enough, I want I'm sorry, deb Okay, if 204 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:46.960 there's no follow up to that, I want to bring 205 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:49.159 up this question taking around the panel, and then we'll 206 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:54.039 continue on with Courtney Connected. This is from Creative Call 207 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:56.639 and it says, have any of you POT members seen 208 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:01.080 reports of doctor Stephen Greer that the droll our drone 209 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:04.200 gate is happening because of a cobal of criminal bod 210 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:09.480 actors that are doing a psychological type event to cause confusion. 211 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:12.919 So why don't we start with uh, Nathan and then 212 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:14.039 go all the way around. 213 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:19.080 I mean, that's kind of it's interesting. It's on brand 214 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:21.000 for Stephen Greer. I think he's you know, he's kind 215 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.399 of been touting that for quite some time that there's 216 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:26.799 going to be this false flag alien invasion. 217 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:26.639 So. 218 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:31.879 That sounds like something that you know, he would say, uh, 219 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:34.840 you know, if it's it certainly has caused some confusion, 220 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:37.159 but like a lot of things with the media cycle, 221 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:41.279 it's it's sort of faded away now. And you know, 222 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:45.080 it's interesting that the maybe some of the governors in 223 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:48.000 some of the states are still the elected officials are 224 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:49.879 still a little bit upset about it, particularly when the 225 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:52.279 f A, you know, they said the FAA, FAA said 226 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:55.039 these were authorized drones, and there was kind of a 227 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:58.159 reaction that that was a bunch of bunk. And we've 228 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:00.360 had very conflicting statements. I mean, it's only is a 229 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:05.600 good example of I think poor messaging from the government 230 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:12.159 just across the board, like different agencies, different perspectives. You know, 231 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:14.960 is it truly bad actors or you know, is there 232 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:18.720 some criminal behavior behind it. I haven't seen the evidence 233 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:20.840 to suggest that. I just think it's it's been a 234 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:24.759 very it's a combination of, like James has said, very 235 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:27.159 prosaic things, but that has kind of also captured the 236 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:31.720 imagination of the media and the public and we kind 237 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:33.360 of do what we do with those things and run 238 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:34.399 with it a little bit. 239 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:42.200 Jebs, I don't even know where to begin with this, 240 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:46.720 to be totally honest, Like, obviously these drones are a 241 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:49.120 mix of things. We talked about that when we did 242 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:53.559 the episode about the drones, Like we just suspect there's 243 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:58.440 lots of reasons for what we're seeing or what is 244 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:02.639 being seen. I just think that Career tends to go 245 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:05.559 slightly to the dark side of things pretty quick. 246 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:08.519 And honestly, I haven't seen. 247 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:12.559 What he's been putting out because I avoid that, like 248 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:14.799 he just is very quick to go there, and I 249 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.600 from the psychology background, I. 250 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:21.320 Just have an aversion to how he presents. 251 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:25.799 So yeah, no, I haven't seen the report, and no, 252 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:29.279 I do not think it's a cabal of bad actors. 253 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:32.120 I think there might be some people playing hoaxes and 254 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:35.799 missed all the other reasons for the drones though. Absolutely 255 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:37.559 of course people are going to jump in on that, 256 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:43.279 but they were probably doing drone plates before this and 257 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:46.759 they probably will after, So I don't know if that's 258 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:49.519 super malicious or bad. 259 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:52.759 Okay, that's my two cents on that. 260 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:56.559 Courtney connected. Do you have two cents or perhaps even 261 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:59.559 three cents? I don't really even have a change person. 262 00:15:59.559 --> 00:15:59.879 I don't know. 263 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.399 I don't really I'm just going to follow up with 264 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:05.720 with deb with an abbreviated version. 265 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:08.519 And I've called this one of my biases. 266 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.600 You know in the past that you know, I used 267 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:13.639 to watch him a lot and follow a lot of 268 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:17.480 his movies and his information, but over the past ten years. 269 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:20.360 I've just kind of filtered it out so I don't 270 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:23.519 allow it to come in too much and impact, you know, 271 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:27.519 my news or what I what I read, or my 272 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:28.679 opinion about things. 273 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:30.840 So no, I don't really have an opinion on it. 274 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:33.960 I will say I do know that he has made 275 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:39.120 claims about false flag and invasions and you know, World. 276 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:42.840 War three style stuff in the past, and I thought most. 277 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:45.000 Of that was drawn from Warner von Braun. I might 278 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.799 be wrong, but I felt like he kind of repackaged that. 279 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:51.519 So knowing that that's there, that's always going to be 280 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:54.080 there and it's always part of kind of his you know, 281 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:56.679 prophetic stuff, I think he might have some of his 282 00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:59.000 own biases that fill in his gaps as well. 283 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:02.080 So I'm just not a big proponent of him right now. 284 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:08.400 James, Harry Jolly watches your thoughts on God, James, I 285 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:09.799 should use an Italian accent for you. 286 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:14.279 Sorry, Yeah, that's right, man, Come on, JA, watch is 287 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:16.279 your thoughts to James on the topic. 288 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:19.960 I don't know the things are flying the air over New. 289 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:24.720 Jerseys, as they said in the to the Stars Academy 290 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:30.079 show they had on on History Channel when they were 291 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:34.519 speaking to the Italian researchers. He was like, we could 292 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:39.160 not stop this in device that when he's talking about 293 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:42.640 that one shot that allegedly shot down the helicopter, Yeah, 294 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:48.079 I can. I still love that. Yeah. Almost almost as 295 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:53.519 amazing as my most famous quote in recent UFO history, 296 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:57.440 which occurred here on this show with Jim semi Van. 297 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:03.880 It's not about twenty two million dollars, right, there's non 298 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:09.480 human intelligence living with us on this planet. It's absolutely amazing. 299 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:18.160 So this this idea regarding Stephen Greer's cautionary you know, 300 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:23.559 the way he's approaching this drone thing goes into yeah, 301 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:25.759 a paper he wrote and he you know, he always 302 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:29.680 talks about it is when when disclosure serves secrecy And 303 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:34.759 this idea that this kind of activity could be used 304 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:40.880 for psychological warfare, you know, to prepare the public for 305 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:46.440 a threat from non human intelligence and aliens. And although 306 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:52.519 the Carol Rosen testimony regarding Warner von Brown heavily contributes 307 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:59.799 to that, Stephen Greer had other insiders and whistleblowers that 308 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:03.160 came to him saying like, hey, listen, we could press 309 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:09.000 a button and essentially launch an event that would be 310 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:13.759 perceived by the public as a threat from aliens or 311 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:19.799 non human intelligence for whatever purpose would would follow, you know, 312 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:24.079 a martial law kind of thing, or you know, unite 313 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:31.160 the world against non human intelligence. I don't see that 314 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:34.839 as impossible anymore. Really. A few years ago I saw 315 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:38.400 that as more unlikely. But as as the time's gone on, 316 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:43.160 I see like you would only need like one one event, 317 00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:45.359 and it would not really take much. It wouldn't even 318 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:51.319 take real reverse engineered UFO technology as he proposed. You 319 00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:54.279 would just need some kind of drone that looks really weird. 320 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:57.119 And you know, you could totally stage an event like 321 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:00.599 that if you want to go into this h thing. 322 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:05.480 I mean, Jacques Valet has talked about stage UFO events, 323 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:10.799 right he had. He in Forbidden Science volume four, he 324 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:15.240 talks about securing a document from the CIA that talks 325 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:20.200 about stage UFO events in Brazil and Argentina. And I 326 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:30.440 believe that he's indicating that that, you know, the the events. Well, 327 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:36.960 I'm blanking on the name right now because Lars it 328 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:40.039 was not. It wasn't the Coloris event that I'm thinking 329 00:20:40.079 --> 00:20:47.960 of right now, project Plate. But regardless, you know, in 330 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:52.920 Brazil and uh, he was talking I think he was 331 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:58.720 talking about those events, and you know, recently had even 332 00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:02.519 Jeremy Corbel come out publicly talking about this twenty twenty 333 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:06.720 seven thing, and it's based on a nineteen seventies document 334 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:14.359 that he had read. So I don't I don't want 335 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:19.359 to completely undermine that perspective. Stephen Greer does have a 336 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.160 lot of sources, for better or worse, there some of 337 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:27.440 them might be feeding him disinformation, and the idea that 338 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:29.400 they're going to use all of this as a threat 339 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:33.799 might actually be the disinformation. I don't know. So it's 340 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:37.880 complicated in that regard, and I think the best thing 341 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:40.839 that we can do is keep an open mind and 342 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:44.319 keep every possibility on the table. If he's putting that 343 00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:48.519 out there, and he's right on a lot of matters 344 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:51.799 ahead of his time in a lot of ways, but again, 345 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:54.839 his personality and the way that he may say things 346 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:58.319 kind of gets in the way and a lot of 347 00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:04.920 information gets lost unfortunately in that regard. So I want 348 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:09.799 to say it shouldn't be dismissed, but you know, take 349 00:22:09.799 --> 00:22:10.640 it with a grain of salt. 350 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:14.880 Thank you, James, and I you know I've heard you 351 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:18.279 speak at length about that you were once you know, 352 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:21.920 a protege I guess of some sort of doctor Stephen Greer, 353 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:24.039 and he did a lot of very very important work, 354 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:26.440 including what they say, you know, leading up to that 355 00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:31.960 that press conference he had at the National Press Club, 356 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:35.640 and you know you did see five you know, under 357 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:38.799 his tutelage and guidance and have led you know, many 358 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:42.400 many people out for experiences. So there is that when 359 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:44.880 it comes to this sort of modern stuff that he 360 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:47.079 has to say, I'll be honest with you. I don't 361 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:49.319 said I'm gonna break out my answer into two parts. 362 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:52.279 One is going to be really really simple for everybody, 363 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:55.359 and this part is just my opinion. I don't really 364 00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:59.400 pay much attention to him. He may have good sources 365 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:03.680 or great horses, I really don't care very much because 366 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:07.119 he got into this personal back and forth with people 367 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:09.759 that he didn't like that he thought were stealing the 368 00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:13.000 narrative or the spotlight. So once you sort of poison 369 00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:14.960 that water, I don't really want to drink from the 370 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:18.359 water anymore. I'm not saying he doesn't have value or 371 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:20.960 anything like that. I'm saying I personally don't care much 372 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:24.000 what he thinks. And people that have watched CAB historically 373 00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:27.319 probably know that I've said that before. Secondly, regarding the 374 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:32.960 drone the drone incursions or drone gate over the Northeastern 375 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:35.960 States and Jersey and picatinee Arsenal and all that which 376 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:38.720 Jake Barber talked about, that they actually went out and 377 00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:41.640 did an op where they looked at They flew their 378 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:44.119 helicopter and looked at some of these objects. So I'm 379 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:46.920 going to make this very very simple so that everybody 380 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:50.079 can understand it. Some of the craft that are flying 381 00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:54.640 are anomalous craft. Many or maybe most, as James alluded to, 382 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:59.400 of the craft that are flying are prosaic aircraft that 383 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:02.680 are of a quad copter type, or rotary wing aircraft 384 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:05.680 or fixed wing aircraft, or just straight up drones that 385 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:09.559 people can buy that are out looking at those smattering 386 00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:12.640 of aircraft that we don't know what they are. And 387 00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:15.920 because for seventy or eighty years, nobody has been has 388 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:19.319 been willing to step up and answer this question, and 389 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:21.599 the current administration is going to be no different. I'm 390 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:24.079 sorry to break your heart if you think that it will. 391 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:28.480 Then that's why they keep coming up with these narratives, 392 00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:31.079 because how do you explain something that you can't explain 393 00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:33.839 and say, oh, our airspace is vote there's stuff flying 394 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:36.079 here and we can't do anything about it. That's not 395 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:38.880 the answer when you're part of the National Command Authority, 396 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:41.079 of which the President is the head. But there are 397 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:43.240 a lot of people underneath him that don't want to 398 00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:45.359 admit that there are some things flying out there that 399 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:48.079 we don't have control of. So it's very simple. Yes, 400 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:51.880 there are some anomalops craft, flying, Yes there are. 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