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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Ben Bert from Exeter, New Hampshire, and

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I play at Apple Hill golf Course.

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Speaker 2: This is Golf Smarter, episode nine hundred and fifty eight.

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Speaker 3: Everything's conceptualized and then this machine poops it out and

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we turned it into a putter. That's pretty sweet. The

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rest of this stuff is all actual production manufacturing. These

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machines right here are like eighty bitty tiny little versions

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of that. This is actually a five actiacy. And see,

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these little guys enabled us to go from when you

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first met Bill to actually being able to produce these

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somewhat consistently. So I mean, you remember you were there

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in the early days, right when you get putters, and

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now they all kind of felt a little different, you know,

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even though they were supposed to basically be the same.

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And this one's heavy and this one's light whatever. Because

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where we located a hole, if you miss it by

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ten thousands of an inch, the putter's going to be

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twenty or thirty grams later or heavier, depending upon what

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we need in order to get a balance. And we

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found these things and enabled us to drill holes precise

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enough to actually start making them consistently and fast. So

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that was a very very big deal for us.

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Speaker 1: Lab Golf DF three broomstick putter tutorial and factory tour

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with CEO Samhn.

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Speaker 4: This is golf Smarter sharing stories, tips and insights from

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great golf minds to help you lower your score and

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raise your golf IQ.

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Speaker 5: Here's your host, Fred Green.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me make a quick setup for today's episode.

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What you're about to hear is the audio from two

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new videos that also live on our YouTube channel at

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golf Smarter. The first part of the episode, which is

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a standalone video, is Samhan, CEO of Lab Golf, the

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hottest putter company on the planet, giving me a tutorial

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on how to take full advantage of my new Lab

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Golf DF three broomstick putter. Then we'll get into our

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second video, which is Sam giving us the full tour

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of the Lab Golf factory, which is in Creswell, Oregon,

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just south of Eugene. Joining us on the tour and

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on microphone is a fourteen year old competitive junior golfer

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who's been using a Lab putter for years, named zeb Perez.

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You'll learn a lot in this show, but what blew

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me away is when we first met Sam back in

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twenty twenty, he had about eighteen employees.

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Speaker 5: And now one hundred and fifty. Company is hot again.

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There are now two videos on YouTube that show you

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this entire episode. So let's get started with Sam teaching

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me how to use my new putter.

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Speaker 1: I'm here with Sam Han, CEO of Lab Golf, and

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we are on the practice putting green today because I

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am now starting to use a DF three broomstick putter

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and I have no idea how to do it. Although

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it's a good idea for me to do this because

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one thing I have noticed in my putting, and it's

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improved vastly since I use the Lab Golf putter. My

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left hand gets in the way. If I'm pulling, i'm pushing,

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it's always my left hand.

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Speaker 6: Oh interesting, does the bad work?

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Speaker 1: So I thought, okay, if I can just eliminate my

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left hand and the broomstick would help that.

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Speaker 3: And so you're absolutely spot on and an apropos of that.

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I mean, I tell people my favorite thing about brooms

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is that it is it is a closer relationship to

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virtually every other kind of precise action that we do.

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You would never use your left hand to write if

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you're if you're right handed. You know, you're never going

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to throw a dart with two hands, and a lot

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of these actions that we try, particularly in golf, where

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you do need to you know, both hands to you know,

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we have this illusion of needing both hands to steady

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the instrument. They're in conflict a lot of times. They

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think they work differently, they think differently. So broomsticking is

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beautiful because yes, your left hand is there to support,

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you know, the top of the club. But other than that,

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this is this is ball rolling, right, you know, this

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is just rolling hand. Well, you can you can sign

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tattle this way, right, but you can't do it this way. Okay,

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you can't do it correct. Croquet, they were a little

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worried about Sam Sneed winning a couple couple of masters

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is into his fifty, so they outlawed that.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, does it make you

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nervous at all that they're going to start winning on

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the professional tours and they're gonna go, yeah, you know what.

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Speaker 6: We can't do that.

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we we probably sell more broomsticks than just about anybody else,

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but it's still not like this enormous.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't know how they I don't know what rule

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it would be it would be an interesting rule. So no,

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it's still putting, man. I mean, you still got to

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read the putt, you still got to pick a line,

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you still got to do all the stuff.

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Speaker 1: So we have a tea time coming up, so let's

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get a tutorial here. So as soon as I got this,

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Speaker 6: I have a practice putting green.

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Speaker 1: But I went to the local course and I went

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on the practice putting green there, trying different things, recognizing

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different things about my stroke, where my hands go, lef

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Speaker 5: So I was just hoping, yeah, should absolutely So.

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Speaker 3: The kind of the good starting place, in my opinion,

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is kind of seeing the spectrum between what I what

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opposite ends of it. Bernhard Langer one end, Adam Scott

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at the other. So these guys are both prolific, you

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know putters with their broomstick putters. Bernhard is about five

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foot eight uses a forty seven inch putter sometimes forty

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eight inch putter. Stands virtually straight up. This arm is

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pretty close to his body. The forearm can't touch the

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ribs right, that's part of the anchoring. So he's close,

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but not that close. And then his whole stroke is

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driven just by the right arm. And yeah, his shoulders

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will move, but he's not moving them, if that makes sense.

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the spectrum, you've got Adam who's you know, bent over

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quite a bit, really framed up, elbow out to the target,

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and he's using his back and his core to move

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the putter and so and then you know, I'm kind

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of somewhere right in between personally, and so messing around

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with both sides of that equation is important. Given what

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some problems, I kind of like the idea of going

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a little bit more sort of the Burnhard Langer, and

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the left hand. You can put your thumb on top.

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of our cgo Ryan, who you met, you know, he

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does it like this. However, what's really important is that

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these three fingers stay pretty relaxed, the bottom ones, so

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we really it's like this, okay, because we don't want

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to have to move. We don't want the wrist and

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forum and all that to have to move with it.

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the three fingers exactly exactly. And then generally the top

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of the grip should be at the sternum or slightly

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towards the target if anything. Okay, yep, ball position is

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going to be forward because of the onset head there.

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Speaker 1: And I'm used to the forward press since I've been

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using your putters for four sures now, but this isn't relevant, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Correct, okay. And and then the next thing you got

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to figure out is that is that left hand. Let's

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make sure, Yeah, like I said, let's make sure we

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get this hand either on that plaque or this side

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of it. We don't want it back okay here, yeah, exactly.

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help you get there, okay.

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Speaker 1: And I was finding them when I was practicing that

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they unlike what I was doing with my regular sized

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DF three that the ball was just inside my foot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you get I mean as far forward as your

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company Okay, yep, yeah, that looks pretty good there. Let's

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get that. Yep, there you go, get that uh hand

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forward as if your MIC's in the way, we should

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probably move it so you can put properly here for you,

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probably because it looks like you have some tendency to

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get it too far back. So yeah, let's feel like

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it's on the low. Go your shirt almost, okay, and

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then and then the next piece is the right hand,

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and it's and it's there's there's no rules here, there's

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no curriculum around any of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And so I found if I just let it hang

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and just kind of hold it from there, yep. And

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then of course, don't sold the putter, just have it

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off the ground a quarter inch, because when I sold it,

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I felt a drag and then it turns.

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Speaker 3: So the reason that was happening is because of that

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top hand, which again is creeping all the way back

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behind the other side. So because if you think about it,

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you're leading the shaft back. The putter wants to go

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down into the ground. The putter's forward, it's going to

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come off the ground. So yeah, that's that's going to

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be key for you. And we might want to get

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you a little shorter one. I think that's going to

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make it easier. So this one's a little shorter, we

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can figure that out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, interesting is you get that?

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Speaker 1: When I look the video online about about fitting for

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the broomstick, you were like, it's not a who lot.

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Speaker 5: You don't send us a video.

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you know, kind of how you're saying, and then you

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just put it on, I might encourage you to try this, Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

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with the face there, and now all you're gonna do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the first thing I noticed is the weight difference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're significantly heavier and so significantly Yeah, so at

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first people tend to sort of because of the weight,

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they end up kind of falling inside, you know, the

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weight of it just falls this way. So at first

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putter moves outside and shut like, you know, feel like

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you're kind of doing that at first, and you won't be,

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Speaker 5: I need to do is get my left hand a

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little farther.

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Speaker 3: Forward, Yes, much further forward, much further forward. Yep, yeah

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for you. I mean I see, because I could have

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just been seeing New Year all the way over here.

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I think that that was a product this putter just

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being a little long for you. There you go, that's

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Speaker 1: Bought uh Mes one for a friend for his birthday

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a couple of years ago. He absolutely loves it and

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changed his game dramatically. But I'm really partial to the

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DF three.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's a great putter.

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Speaker 1: It's a great It feels so much different than the

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two point one.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it was immediate and I know how you feel.

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to call it.

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Speaker 6: A gimme grabber. Yeah, it's like I'm.

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Speaker 3: In this is it's pretty nice.

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Speaker 1: Cool, it's so cool all right up left here and

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Speaker 3: Shorter, really good, and so you know, and I would

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experiment more with the right hand. I'd also experiment with

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how far down here you know you're putting it. Some

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dart and right right at the bottom there, So I like,

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I don't take it personally. I mean, they're starting with

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all you need to do is focus on your distance

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once you get your line set up exactly.

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pinching underneath. This is how Adam does it as well.

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straight on this way, so their hands kind of almost

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at about a forty five degree angle, and then some

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guys are straight on top this way. Ultimately, all we're

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trying to do is figure out whatever is the most

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natural way for you to keep the putter on plane, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Way, I've noticed, and then even pushing out when I.

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elbow position and shoulders, arms, and you just have to

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experiment to figure out what's best for you. Ultimately, even

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though this is almost like a little uncomfortable for me,

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I have to fight to kind of keep that elbow

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in there and do it that way. That's the way

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that for me, I'm able to take the putter straight

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back and pull it off to the left just like

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I did there.

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one that I have is probably too long for me.

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yeah good, yeah, good, Get that ball position just a

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little bit more forward to a little more forward, just a.

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getting it, you know, closer to there you go. That

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looks great, Fred, of course that one forgot to break.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Really good point.

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Speaker 1: Also, the distance control when I was practicing with it, yeah,

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sure it took a couple but it didn't matter because

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the line was so true. And if it stopped three

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inches short, oh that's frustrating, but it was three inches longer.

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because it was only yippers generally that were switching to brooms.

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many people that actually tried them or use them, so

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there wasn't any real curriculum about them, and there wasn't

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any actual data as to what is good and bad

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about it, and the stigma would be it's bad for

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lag putting, they're bad for short nuanced puts. My experience

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and watching people go into them is the exact opposite.

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because now this method is a like we were talking

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about before, a one handed motion where were you like

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you don't have to you wouldn't have to think about

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how hard to toss this ball to get it to

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go near the hole.

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Speaker 6: And how many.

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Speaker 1: Times have I not only shared it because what I've

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learned on the podcast, but do it myself.

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Speaker 5: But I'm chipping standing there going what does that feel like?

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Speaker 3: And and you need to bring to the shot correct

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and and and with a broomstick it mirrors that more

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uh more than with a conventional putter. So yeah, speed

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is not a thing, and the weight of the head

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controls it for you, and it's nice and easy. Well,

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you gotta get used to the slick Emerald Valley greens.

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They're nasty, Tim Tucker.

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Speaker 1: I usually walk my putts out yea to measure, so

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it's like, okay, yeah, I know it's all feel but.

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Speaker 3: You can play in under five hours?

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Speaker 6: Yes I can, but I can't. I need to know

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what my distances. I walk it off in.

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Speaker 1: Someone else's puttings. That wasn't nice.

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Speaker 3: There you go, good speed there? All right? Are you

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ready to dominate it? Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I really appreciated tutorial and the time and the tour.

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Speaker 3: It's been awesome. Let's go play a team, Let's go

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play some golf. Cool, let's do this then, all right?

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So yeah, this is all admin stuff over here in

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this bay, so you still have more room to grow.

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So actually, as a very recently, we just as signed

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the least for the whole building. So I'm taking in

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there and starting like a giant ballroom. We're gonna be

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able to turn into a big putting studio. See if

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it's open right now. So, oh you're kidding, No, I

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mean how cool it is. This whole whole thing is

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going to be able to be you know, retail giant

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putting green, all the fitting equipment, all the everything, state

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of the art and totally. Yeah, absolutely finally, like we

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used to have. We used to have an all hands

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meeting of morning I'm sorry, every week and uh, you know,

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twelve employees at our at our first spot in a

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different neighborhood in Eugene. Monday morning, we all stand up

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and tell everybody what's going on or whatever, and then

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then there was thirty and it was a little tedious.

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jam into a hallway and you know whatever, and then

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you know, the massive explosion and employments. You know, over

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the last six months we were doing it all hands,

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and we used to just do it in that hallway

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and it got to a point where I couldn't see

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ayody like like, so it's so now we need this

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whole room for currently for all of our all hands meetings.

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Speaker 1: So this ladder is actually for you to stand on

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to see everybody.

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Speaker 3: I stand at the podium, they give me a microphone. Now,

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oh my god, I never use.

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Speaker 6: It, but yeah, I can't imagine you would.

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Speaker 1: But yes, wait, is this your new secret weapon, Potter

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that you're designing.

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Speaker 3: This is Gavin Handles, Uh basically, Uh, Handle's maintenance for

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the whole Green Fred and Z who's been using since

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he was. Gavin and I've actually known each other for

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close to fifteen years twelve thirteen, fifteen years. Now I

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have another business hand a bar in Eugene that's like

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a pinball arcade and was that you still have it?

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I do? Unfortunately you want.

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Speaker 6: To buy it looking for that market.

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Speaker 3: And Gavin, in addition to being probably the best pinball

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player you've ever met in your life, also used to

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work on him. So he and I uh opened that

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place up together. Wow. Taking away from that, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: You must be able to read me read Greens really

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well if you're good at pimballing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's all English and spin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 2: If Greens had schematics, then yes.

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Speaker 3: They do, they do. They do. There's Green books now yep.

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But you know how like the rest of us play pinball,

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and it's like the whole object is just not to

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let it go down the hole. We don't actually consider

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that you can hit a target intentionally, you know with

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a pinball.

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Speaker 6: Wait, you're talking about golfer golf.

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Speaker 2: We were able to actually build a community, you know,

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beyond just being a bar. There's a local community, but

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also a larger pinball community at hand to players and

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it goes on to national, international championships and stuff.

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Speaker 6: So the beauty of being in a college town.

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Speaker 3: He was the only one that can. Very few people

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in the world can still repair the old electro mechanical

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ones like the actual scoring reels and stuff like that.

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You wouldn't know anything about this, but he probably does.

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And exactly so we have all those games still and

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consequently people come from all over the country to check

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them out and everything. There is just more office space.

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That's that's where the whole customer service team, all the

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remote fitters, all the folks that you know, face to

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face deal with the company are all stacked up in

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there for now. But yeah, we're going to start building

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out this whole hallway and stuff with with offices and

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that we just signed included rights to that lot over there.

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So with the growth plan, at some point we'll start

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building construction. About a year, we'll start building a new building.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So a lot of.

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Speaker 8: People I saw on the live tourn PGLF.

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Speaker 3: We had sixteen putters and play at the US Senior US.

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Please meet Fred Green and Zebby Perez. She's made, She's

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made plenty of yours. She's been with us since Reno.

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She's been with us.

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Speaker 6: Since five years ago.

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Speaker 8: Yes, yes, finally, Oh wonderful, excited to be out here.

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Speaker 6: It's awesome.

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Speaker 3: He just played in a tournament up at the tournament up.

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I've shrunk just but yeah, she's been with us forever.

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When yeah, we were struggling to kind of figure out

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how it was all going to work and Reno and everything,

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and ultimately just at twenty one years old, got a

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call being like, hey, so would you mind running the company?

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She was like, okay, so, I mean she really call me.

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Everything moving for for a while down there and Reno

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and you know you run before after Kevin Kevin hired

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you right.

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Speaker 1: Right, okay, twenty years old, Yeah, your story straight unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Now she's got fifty people working for her.

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Speaker 6: Good to me too.

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Speaker 3: So the place was a was a fitness center.

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Speaker 6: This was the worst one.

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Speaker 3: This was the lady's locker room and is now our

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R and D s.

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Speaker 6: Then this is where the design work gets done.

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Speaker 3: This is this is all the design works. So in

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this room is both design and tour, R and D

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and tour. So so these are the ones we're working

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on for Adam Scott's new Putter, new prototype here and

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we'll have it in a you know, regular shorter configuration too.

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But it's pretty cool, very nice. Well, so you making

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most of them without the hope.

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Speaker 9: Without the hope now that was the original designment, and

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then so this this would have been like I think

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we ended up with eighty different versions before we ultimately

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settled on the one that we released. This would have

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been let's see, actually, wow, let's see Kevin zin.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Fred, it's great, me too, after hearing your voice

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so much on the the podcast with Fire Pit with

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Matt Janella, Yeah, yeah, it was so much fun. We

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just drove up from Northern California yesterday and listened to

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the entire series the whole time.

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Speaker 6: It's the second time I've listened to it. Now it's research.

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Speaker 10: I was just finance some informations and didbits for you

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hit right, that's it right.

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Speaker 1: No, the first time I had Sam on my podcast

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was two thousand and twenty or nineteen.

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Speaker 6: So I've been obsessed with the Putters.

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Speaker 8: I think.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think I just maybe just started working there

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when he was on it, because I remember.

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Speaker 6: When he told me about it.

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Speaker 10: Because when I was living in Australia before I came

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back in twenty eighteen, there wasn't many golf podcasts around.

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And I remember when I was a cabinet maker back

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in Australia weapons for my dad, and when I used

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to go install I listened to Golf Smarter.

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Speaker 6: Thank You, that was what I would do.

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Speaker 10: So when Thank You, when Sam reached out and was like, hey,

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i'd love.

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Speaker 6: You to look up with this guy, and I was

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just like, yeah, you.

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Speaker 10: Don't need to do you don't need to give me

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any introduction.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: It was really cool.

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Speaker 6: I'm flattered. Thank you so much. That's amazing. I'm still

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around many episodes now.

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Speaker 1: This week was nine hundred and fifty six of a

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weekly podcast.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, I've got one thousand in sight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's just around the corner. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, nineteen years of doing I started this year and

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a half before the iPhone came out.

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean. You're the only guy.

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Speaker 6: Back in the day, I really was the only one.

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Speaker 3: Podcast was cool.

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Speaker 1: Well they are cool now. It's pretty amazing people like podcast.

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Speaker 6: I've been doing that for a while.

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00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 3: I mean that's like the common thing.

476
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 10: What TV shows, what potcast you let's say, they say.

477
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly, Well, thank you, thank you.

478
00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:24,759
Speaker 6: I'm just so excited.

479
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,599
Speaker 3: You were a B two guy for a long time,

480
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,680
weren't you. That was kind of cool. Huh. We made

481
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,720
that for note to beget is.

482
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,759
Speaker 8: That he's a two side putting.

483
00:23:35,519 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 3: That's what that's what these are.

484
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,599
Speaker 6: Really is for switch hitters.

485
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:51,759
Speaker 3: Ye wow, I left hand the be too. Ye that's him.

486
00:23:51,799 --> 00:23:55,519
That was signs. This is Liam Man. I don't know

487
00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:56,759
if you guys actually shok hands yet.

488
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:03,079
Speaker 8: No, how you doing.

489
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,079
Speaker 3: Delia's the one who's been building your puttersh for the

490
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,920
last years, two years, year and a half, two years

491
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,359
something like that. He handles all the tour guys, all

492
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,359
the college kids and everything like that. So awesome, awesome.

493
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,000
Once you get on the PGA tour, he's going to

494
00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:18,640
be who you get your cutters from sweet Still.

495
00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:22,319
Speaker 8: You have three is amazing, so thank you once again.

496
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,480
Pretty good, it's pretty good. I've got used to like

497
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,200
because I started doing like arm work like that and

498
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,519
it's kind of tinkering between like you know, the standard

499
00:24:31,599 --> 00:24:33,880
armlock and kind of left handlone and stuff.

500
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,519
Speaker 6: But the Potter rules.

501
00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:41,279
Speaker 8: Perfect, perfect, it's so stable like the greens. I played

502
00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:44,279
a pumpkin ridge so fast right, so I was able.

503
00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:46,640
I can either make a thirty foot like it's tapp

504
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,720
ins or just lag it close to fun.

505
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,599
Speaker 3: He was at uh at Pumpkin for the Underrated Tour.

506
00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:56,960
Steph Curry's got that's why he's here. So they played.

507
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,279
They just played pumpkin vers last two days and sounds

508
00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:01,880
like T twenty. We'll take it.

509
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: We'll take it, We'll take it.

510
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 3: How many did you see any other labs up in

511
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,480
the up in the field.

512
00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:09,039
Speaker 8: Yes, nice, about a couple people in the female division

513
00:25:09,079 --> 00:25:11,920
and the boys that is all using lab golf. A

514
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,400
lot of the mes mez and the and the b,

515
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,160
the link, the three and the link.

516
00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:20,079
Speaker 3: We had the start of amatags Itellian's going out out here.

517
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,759
They had it last year. There was one kid that

518
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,240
had one and then I don't know if you did

519
00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:27,839
you see any of the warm up this morning or whatever,

520
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,359
there's like at least fifteen a lot if not more.

521
00:25:31,519 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 10: I mean so a lot of players these days like, oh, well,

522
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,640
you guys are blowing up. This is so much great.

523
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,960
It's like, it's so cool to see guys using it

524
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,599
in the field. Like to me, it's not even the

525
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,720
guys in the field but using it these days, it's

526
00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:45,079
the props. Right when I first started going out that

527
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,119
we had zero punts ever in AM Like the first season,

528
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,680
I think I saw two punters every time I saw

529
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,839
when I go up to shake it, Thank you so much.

530
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,960
And now these days it's twenty severy.

531
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 8: Pro Like the kids to train at my academy where

532
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,240
I go to, all of them have either the MEZ or.

533
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 6: The link one.

534
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,039
Speaker 8: So we have even the coaches to they mess around

535
00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:05,559
with the mess.

536
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 4: Well none of them have it. And then he started

537
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,799
he brought the mes right, and then everybody, you know

538
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:14,880
how kids for sure, let me see that thing you

539
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,519
know about.

540
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: An incredible article. It shows that you guys are number

541
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,720
five on the tour.

542
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: Now was consistently number five and then occasionally three and four,

543
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,039
Oh is that right. Yeah, we've we've we've had numbers

544
00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:32,160
higher than Tailor made a handful of times on the

545
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,319
Cornary team. The Cornberry Tour, we were the second most

546
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,279
used putter at the Senior US. We were number two.

547
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: This one is nice the champions, you guys. So thats

548
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:44,839
one of the Max.

549
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 3: Any any room that you see with that head on is.

550
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,039
Speaker 6: A Max is a Max.

551
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so the Max. That's how the Max happened. Actually,

552
00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:58,440
so it was Liam's fault. We uh so we made

553
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,400
the MESU. I'm Scott liked the look of it, but

554
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,279
the chassis for the original mes one wasn't big enough

555
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:06,960
to get enough weight in it. Okay, So Kevin blew

556
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,720
it up a little bit so we could get two

557
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:12,440
rows of weights in it. And then, uh Liam was

558
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,759
just screwing around one day and just made a conventional

559
00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:17,240
putter out of it instead of a broom and everybody

560
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,240
liked it better. So the Max was born.

561
00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:22,039
Speaker 6: Interesting, I've ever been.

562
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 10: So nervous after building it because I built it felt

563
00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:26,400
unreal and I was like, I'm gonna show this.

564
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 3: It was just I was like, now it because.

565
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 10: I wasn't sure which way Sam's gonna go with. I

566
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,680
wasn't sure it's gonna be, like, why are you wasting any.

567
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:33,559
Speaker 6: Time making it bigger?

568
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, just building this small thing because because

569
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,160
it was already bigger, the head was already there, it

570
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,599
was just only being used for broom. He was the

571
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:43,880
first person to you know, chat it conventionally.

572
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,839
Speaker 6: And conventional one.

573
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 10: And I remember just being so like, this could go either,

574
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,720
this could go the fifty to fifty chances goes really well,

575
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,319
really badly.

576
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: Oh good, Yeah, that's our best selling putter of all time.

577
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,559
Speaker 6: Well really well or ignored.

578
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: Sorry to interrupt you, guys, guys, this is uh, this

579
00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:10,680
is Brian. Brian is our Fred R and D.

580
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 6: I know who you are.

581
00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, I mean, friend, You're fine, okay.

582
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,839
Speaker 6: But he's impressive. I'm fine, you're.

583
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 8: Yes, sir.

584
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:31,759
Speaker 3: First time he was playing in the underrated to Steph

585
00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:34,400
Curry's thing. There he is, there's Kevin. Do you remember

586
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:41,440
ze Press this is dead.

587
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 8: I like to be sure, by the way, that's sick.

588
00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:47,799
Speaker 3: I think we might. I think we might have some

589
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,279
for you. We'll get to we'll get to send you

590
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:55,279
out for a bunch of guys. Yeah, for sure.

591
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,839
Speaker 8: Pretty good rocking the d F three for about a

592
00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,799
couple of weeks.

593
00:28:59,799 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: Now let me take it. I'll take you guys kind

594
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,799
of through the general process real quick. So we'll go

595
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:16,799
in Kevin's office because Kevin's office is way cooler. So,

596
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,400
like I mentioned, this was, uh, this was a health club,

597
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:21,680
is what this build, this part of the building was.

598
00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:26,000
This was the sauna. Is Kevin's office. Go ahead and

599
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,759
take a peek in there, and you know that's where

600
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:33,680
all the original prototypes are, and so all the drawing

601
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,319
and everything gets done. Concepts are done here, Plans are

602
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,720
made here. So after you know, we've got you know,

603
00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:42,559
pretty robust process involved in approving drawings and kind of

604
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:45,039
figuring out which direction we want to go on design.

605
00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:48,359
But the coolest thing that happened in the last few

606
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,079
years when we moved into this building is that we

607
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,920
had enough space for our own machinery. And so as

608
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,279
soon as we've got you know, a design that we

609
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:58,519
want to try, we go into this room. So as

610
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:01,400
soon as we got this machine right here, our lives

611
00:30:02,119 --> 00:30:04,920
changed instantly. So this is what enables us to go

612
00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:08,680
from a napkin drawing to actually, you know, having a

613
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,839
putter that we can touch. So it's a five acts

614
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:14,400
C and C machine. My machine is currently out, but

615
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,759
you know, Kevin does a lot of this work here. Wait,

616
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:18,279
you mean to.

617
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: Tell me after the logo debacle you're still doing the.

618
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 9: Absolutely that's how all good things stuck and it wasn't.

619
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,119
Speaker 6: I want to see that.

620
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: I want to see that that logo.

621
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: I just I just was looking through my pictures and

622
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:42,640
found it and I sent it to Sarah. It is,

623
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:50,720
that's the original logo. Everything's conceptualized, and then this machine

624
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:52,240
poops it out and we turned it into a putter.

625
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,680
It's pretty sweet. The rest of this stuff is all

626
00:30:55,119 --> 00:31:00,240
actual production manufacturing. These machines right here are like bitty

627
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,160
tiny little versions of that. This is actually a five acciacy.

628
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,240
And see, these little guys enabled us to go from

629
00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:09,240
when you first met Bill to actually being able to

630
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:13,359
produce these somewhat consistently. So, I mean, you remember you

631
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:14,680
were there in the early days, right when you get

632
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,359
putters and somebody all kind of felt a little different. Yes,

633
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,160
you know, even though they were supposed to basically be

634
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,400
the same. This one's heavy and this one's light and whatever.

635
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,279
It's because that where we located the hole. If you

636
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:27,119
miss it, by a ten thousands of an inch. The

637
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:30,160
putter's going to be twenty or thirty grams lighter or heavier,

638
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,359
depending upon what we need in order to get a balance.

639
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,559
When we found these things and enabled us to drill

640
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,599
holes precise enough to actually start making them consistently and fast,

641
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,599
so that was that was a very very big deal

642
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,359
for us. So this is another five actis cy and

643
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,160
C machine.

644
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 6: So you you could steal only make one club at

645
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,359
a time.

646
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,799
Speaker 3: So this machine here is so big and you can

647
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,559
see like we can load in you know, fifty me's heads,

648
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,599
so we don't actually we're not actually milling the heads here. Okay,

649
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,640
different machine shop about an hour south here. Okay, when

650
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,160
it's time to drill the holes per lying or whatever,

651
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,799
they can load that up with forty hostles all to

652
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:12,759
be drilled at sixty nine and chips ships and then

653
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,160
you know does it. So no, they're not drilled one

654
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,440
at a time like they used to be. But yeah,

655
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,079
over on those other machines, they were you'd have to

656
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:21,640
screw get one going, you know, get it started drilling,

657
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,279
and then you screw the next one on, and then

658
00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:24,880
you move that one off when the other one's done.

659
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,720
I mean it was. It's crazy, amazing, amazing. This room

660
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:33,839
is really fun. Sorry, guys, I have a tour coming through. Uh,

661
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:36,079
don't worry about us. We're just showing them the st

662
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,359
This is how all the markings on the putters get made.

663
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,599
I've seen it a million times. So yeah, check that

664
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:53,400
out behind the screen glass here they're all I got

665
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,960
a question. That's it. That's uh, that just that's how

666
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,880
we do all the markings. It's not painful, it's not

667
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:03,200
milld on there. It's literally burnt with a laser beam.

668
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 6: Okay, that's what I loved.

669
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:07,599
Speaker 3: And I saw the broomstick has broomstick that was just

670
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,440
a second ago.

671
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: And then yeah, okay, and you get so many different

672
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,799
options now.

673
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: Of this piece is cool. I like this one. Here

674
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,519
are you about to burn these? Okay? So right now

675
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:28,559
that's doing all of the all these okay, like literally

676
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:32,119
melting the metal. It's burning these on there. And then

677
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:35,559
we get into the production room. Let's see if Greg

678
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,720
is back here. Greg controls the flow of this entire floor.

679
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:43,039
So every single order that comes in, you know, there's

680
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:44,640
different ones that need to get made at different times,

681
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,519
different speeds, with different builders and all that kind of stuff.

682
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:49,519
So he manages everything down here. What sucks about that

683
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,319
is that he spent so much time figuring out who

684
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:53,000
should build what that he doesn't get to build anymore

685
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:55,559
despite being definitely the best builder in the building.

686
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 6: And what was your background? Where did you come from?

687
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: Oh? This is greatired?

688
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 6: Oh is that right?

689
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: So you weren't running factories? You were running yeah stuff.

690
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,119
There's a new movie coming out. I just saw a

691
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:15,239
preview called Sing Sing. It's it takes place at Sing

692
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,960
Sing and it's about the r TA, which is the rehabilitation.

693
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,079
Speaker 6: Through the arts. Phenomenal, don't miss.

694
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: That was pretty much what he did. He was all

695
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,599
about arts. He was constantly working with the inmates and

696
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:34,480
drawing pictures. And yeah, we had to like acting tag too.

697
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,599
There had to be there was some untraining that had

698
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:38,559
to happen, like, for instance, like you know, when some

699
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:40,960
of the guys wouldn't build potters properly, he would beat them.

700
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,880
The show. We had had some major complaints about that.

701
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,199
Speaker 6: So how did you find your way to this? Well,

702
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:48,960
you were retired.

703
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 3: I was retired. He's working in a casino.

704
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 6: That's a look at control.

705
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 3: Just bord to death with him. Scroll through Craigslist job

706
00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:06,920
listings and really solid ad for a club builder.

707
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:08,639
Speaker 6: So and were you a golfer?

708
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 3: I have golf my entire life, just not out of

709
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,360
nowhere near Avid or any good.

710
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 6: But you've been playing your whole life?

711
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: And were you a club geek or just just played

712
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,400
golf and didn't get my clubs?

713
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: Big Berthas from early two thousands. Oh wow, Sam, he

714
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:34,000
knows he can have whatever he wants, but uh, I don't.

715
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,280
I don't get out there, and I literally maybe play

716
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,400
three times a year or so.

717
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 6: Most golf instructors are the same thing.

718
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:39,599
Speaker 8: Now.

719
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it when I did it out there. It's

720
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,639
just times in suiting, kind of busy. He's also like

721
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:49,199
ridiculously clutch when he does get out and play like

722
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:51,559
we do these company scrambles. We had a putting contest.

723
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:53,880
The dude has an uncanny ability to show up. And

724
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,360
I assume you probably don't play as much because then

725
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,880
your odds are going to get reduced as ab how

726
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,320
often as clutch. But yeah, Gregs and man, he runs

727
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,039
the whole show down here and it's great.

728
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,119
Speaker 6: To meet you.

729
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: Congratulations, Yes, sir, let's keep that.

730
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gregs and many yeah, I mean, I mean he

731
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:17,880
literally was like hired to do half a U was

732
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,920
part time employee. He just wanted to come into shafts

733
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,440
and putters and then like now like runs show. So yeah,

734
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,920
so every every putter ends up with a bill sheet.

735
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:36,599
So the order comes in and each one of these

736
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:40,519
steps has to be done by one of these folks.

737
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:42,159
I mean, it's a big long assembly line. There's so

738
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:43,880
many customer options, so many different things that need to

739
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,119
be done, and yeah, everybody's gonna sign off on their

740
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:51,440
particular you know, part of the whole build here. And

741
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,679
and it's more than anybody in the business does as

742
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:56,800
far as the amount of options that we offer. And

743
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,199
lately we're doing a pretty pretty bang up job of

744
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,000
getting it right every time.

745
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 6: And so then let me ask you this.

746
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm seeing I'm looking at the DF three heads here,

747
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,199
the bottoms of them, and it looks like the holes

748
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,159
are all in the same place.

749
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: Yep, And the holes are always in the same place.

750
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: What differentiates each one of those it's.

751
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:21,199
Speaker 3: What goes in the holes. So depending upon the lie,

752
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,760
the length, the grip, the amount of shafting armlocked roomstick,

753
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,440
all these things, they're all going to take different configurations.

754
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,559
This one. This one you can tell by the number

755
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:33,760
of holes. These are all either broomsticks or armlocks because

756
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,199
they got twice as many holes in them as the

757
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,639
other one, because we need the extra room to get

758
00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:45,960
more weight in it. So yeah, so after every putter's

759
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,679
built now it goes through a very stringing QC process.

760
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:50,360
So all these tables are out here are just to

761
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,440
check putters. That's it.

762
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 6: Everyone that goes out.

763
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 3: Every single putter goes through actually multiple people because you know,

764
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,920
we had, like when we started doing really high volume,

765
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:04,400
the monotony of going that we're starting to miss some stuff.

766
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,559
So now two people need to check it and cross

767
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:07,199
check each other.

768
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,559
Speaker 5: And so how many people do you have doing QC

769
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,360
on everyone?

770
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: That's a good question. How many QC How many the

771
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,400
biggest QC department right now.

772
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 10: I would say about.

773
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: About twelve twelve folks.

774
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 6: And each putter sees how many people? Not all twelve.

775
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 3: No, each putter does not see twelve QC people. It

776
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:29,960
will see two.

777
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:33,679
Speaker 6: It will see two, so check, recheck.

778
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,039
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, just to make sure you've got two eyes

779
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:39,239
on it. But yeah, there's a million different data points

780
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,199
on each one. This one's pretty chill. This is a

781
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:45,039
wholesale stock putter that still has you know, X number

782
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:47,800
of data points that need to get checked. This is

783
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,440
where it gets screwed too. There's so many sitelines and everything.

784
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, the sitelines they need to make.

785
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: The one that they picked is the one that's actually

786
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:56,639
on it. It's a huge, huge process, and that's why

787
00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:59,360
they're so expensive. Just on straight labor of a putter,

788
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,119
I would have to assume we need six seven times

789
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,280
the labor forced to produce the same number of putters

790
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,400
as a competitor, you know, I mean, it's it's a

791
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,239
huge thing. You know. In consequently, we just have to

792
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,760
run and run the business a little different. We don't

793
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:15,400
can't pay tour players millions of dollars. We can't pay

794
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,440
them anything, you know, we need.

795
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,119
Speaker 1: That to And that's okay because they don't pay for

796
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:22,760
butters anyway, right, So, but if they use it, that's

797
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,800
an even bigger endorsement if you're not paying for them.

798
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,719
I would think that if they're using it without being paid,

799
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:29,840
that's a greater endorsement.

800
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: Than it is, except that it's a relative to the

801
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:35,880
total size of the golf community, it's this pretty small

802
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,559
number of people that notice your people notice golf to

803
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:40,719
beer ax, people notice my golf spite. People have noticed,

804
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,880
but like you know, the general golfing population at large

805
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,360
is ready for you know, John Rahm to say, hey,

806
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,480
look at my new lab putters, you know, something like that,

807
00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:51,119
and it's just not gonna happen, and.

808
00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 6: Like for a couple of weeks.

809
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: So it's going yea, and even Phil Mickelson's using it now,

810
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:56,440
I don't even say that anymore. And it's like after

811
00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:59,480
his couple of his performance, like we'll talk about Willis

812
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,519
Allergi bress I spoke with him.

813
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: How did that two weeks ago?

814
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 6: How did it happens? He went because he was always.

815
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 3: That blade Oh yeah, heways, he always but he's always

816
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,639
looking for an edge. I mean he's used some funny

817
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:16,079
putters over the years. He used the original Scottie Cameron Futura,

818
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:18,719
remember that the huge thing with the holes down that

819
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,880
that like striped it. Yeah, he used to use one

820
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,079
of those. I think in two actually made one of

821
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:26,840
the greatest putts I've ever seen. He made one from

822
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,320
the very front left of the number two green at

823
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,400
Augusta to the all the way back right flagged like

824
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,800
a ninety foot putt that broke about sixty feet.

825
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,039
Speaker 6: As good as they are, that's luck, of course, as

826
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:38,760
good as they are.

827
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 3: Most of the time. He uses Little ladyto two style

828
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,440
blade and but he he golfs with one of the

829
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:50,199
ducks kids. Oh really, And and then two other guys

830
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:53,360
at his place in San Diego. And those two guys

831
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,199
have been using the big one. He apparently has been

832
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,519
giving them ship for using the big one for three years.

833
00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:02,639
Then they got DF three and he's like, let me

834
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:06,360
try that. He putted one round right handed, one handed

835
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,320
with one of theirs. Wow, And then got in touch

836
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,440
with the ducks kid. The Ducks kid called Liam. Liam

837
00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:14,360
called me and we had for like three exchanges. It

838
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,719
was like Phil to Matt, Matt to Liam, Liam to me,

839
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,159
Me to Liam, Liam to Matt, Matt to Fill. I'm like,

840
00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:22,119
can somebody please just give me a number? Yes? So yeah,

841
00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:24,880
we talked and and he's great. We've spent some time.

842
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,400
I went down to his place in San Diego and

843
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:30,280
worked on him some more. And he is so smart

844
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,320
and he is the most intelligent golfer that's ever lived.

845
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,719
And it's just really, it's not close. It's not close.

846
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 6: I mean, there's there's explain intelligent.

847
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 3: There isn't an aspect of any single shot struck ever

848
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,079
that he hasn't considered to the nth degree. That's a

849
00:41:50,119 --> 00:41:57,960
good example. He talked about how so most people don't

850
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,960
like fade putts, you know, like right handers don't like

851
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,880
a left to right putt. No, generally we miss it low.

852
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:10,239
So to give himself a bigger margin of error, he

853
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,880
will lean the shaft away from the target, away from

854
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,360
his line, basically adding effectively adding loft to the putt.

855
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:20,800
So that because most of us what we do is

856
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,440
we take it back and then we push it down

857
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,679
towards the hole rather than you know, keeping it up

858
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,360
left of the hole like we should. So when he

859
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,599
pushes it, he's generally dragging the handle. So if he's

860
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,280
takes it back and has that impulse that we all

861
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,840
have to kind of push it at the hole, he

862
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,039
drags the handle and because he had the shaft leaning back,

863
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:44,199
now he's delofted the potter, so it comes off hotter

864
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,039
on the on the tighter line. And then if he

865
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:51,719
doesn't do that, the extra loft slowed it down so

866
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,199
that it you know, gets the top side of the

867
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:54,679
break or the bottom side of the brake, and he

868
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,320
just gives himself. I mean, like, what a crazy thing

869
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,360
to consider. Yeah, And and we actually got the first

870
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,719
time we got to talking, was talking about what I

871
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,920
considered to be one of the best putts hit in

872
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,400
in competition history. So I'm a seventy first hole at

873
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,559
the PGA Championship at Kiowa where he won. I don't

874
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:22,000
know if you remember, but he inexplicably had been putting convention.

875
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:23,880
He he had his tiny little blade that he was

876
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,960
using all week and inexplicably went to the claw on

877
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,400
this four foot or for par that he had. And

878
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,280
you know, the announcers are like, oh, he must have

879
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,519
been nervous and thought it was going to be the

880
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:38,000
yips or this or that, and I knew different. I

881
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:41,400
knew that that wasn't the reason. And then a couple

882
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,320
of years later, I was out in Chicago at the

883
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,960
live event and he was talking with you hanging out

884
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,360
your car, and I was just kind of listening in

885
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,360
he brought that put up and he saw me kind

886
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,360
of perk up, and he was like, you know that putt,

887
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,239
And I was like, I definitely know that. But and

888
00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:00,000
the reasoning was that the ball had come to rest

889
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:02,719
in like a tiny little depression, and when he grips

890
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,880
it with the claw, the putter has more loft on

891
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,960
it at impact, and so he utilized the claw to

892
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,199
get it to rise up out of that tiny little

893
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,039
depression rather than if it had hit it could have

894
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:15,599
scort it in any different direction or whatever. And to

895
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:17,760
have the presence of mind, you know, I mean, the

896
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,559
rest of the world in that position, you know, with

897
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:21,800
a four foot or to you know, maintain a one

898
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,159
shot lead going into the last hole of a major championship,

899
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,960
was just like, don't screw up, don't screw up, don't

900
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,280
screw up, don't grew up. Exactly, That's what I'm thinking, right,

901
00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:30,920
And he's thinking like, huh, that balls in a little hole.

902
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,559
I wonder how I can deal with that. I mean,

903
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:34,719
just the presence of mind and the understanding of what

904
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,239
it is, you know, that it's happening in a given moment,

905
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,639
how to make that putt. I mean, it's just mind.

906
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:42,639
Speaker 6: Blow amazing, just totally mind blow amazing.

907
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, and then uh, this is you know, finally

908
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,280
sit these are armlocks, right, counterbalance, So this this is

909
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,599
a putter. That's you know, kind of gripped like that.

910
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 5: That's a I've not seen it.

911
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,199
Speaker 3: With jail bird Madness. You know, those were all like Rickey,

912
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,760
Fowler and Window. They were all using dis exact grip

913
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,760
seventeen gript. The grip it down just a little, a

914
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,199
little weight above the hands, and theory sort of lowers

915
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,119
the access point. Okay, it's a nice feel. I like

916
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:15,320
it interesting. I don't love it, but I like it.

917
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:17,320
I don't love it with on you know, with that

918
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,400
much onset is on the DF three. But but they're good. Yes,

919
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,440
so we did a big loop if you're able to tell,

920
00:45:24,519 --> 00:45:26,920
that was the R and D space. But yeah, once

921
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,199
they're all bagged and tagged and we know where they're going,

922
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:33,239
and then we get ready to ship them. This is

923
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,519
just all raw materials in here, grip shafts, headcovers, all

924
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:39,679
that stuff. And we actually have another i think ten

925
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,360
thousand feet somewhere off site to store everything. And you

926
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,280
don't think about.

927
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 6: It, but like somebody's got to do the inventory.

928
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: Fifty thousand headcovers takes up a lot of room, yes,

929
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:54,599
but yeah, then they get or yeah, or even just

930
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:58,440
boxes on something. We never really considered that an empty

931
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,960
box takes up space. So then yeah, this is the

932
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,719
shipping department here, which already needs to expand probably have

933
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,360
to go that way.

934
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,079
Speaker 5: And do we know what we're how many shipping a week?

935
00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:09,559
Speaker 8: Right now?

936
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:14,039
Speaker 3: Our best month ever? We shipped a little over fifteen

937
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:15,159
thousand putters?

938
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 6: Wow? And what month was that? Was that the month

939
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,480
after Lucas?

940
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:26,159
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, this year? Really? Yeah? Yeah, no, it's

941
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:30,239
been exponential since Lucas when we had our first podcast. Yeah,

942
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,000
we were stoked if we shipp three hundred pos in

943
00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:34,760
a month. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I want you to meet Adam.

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Adam will remember Adam? Do you remember shipping putters to

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a young zeb Perez?

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Speaker 1: Hello, So sir, it is a pleasure to see you.

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Speaker 8: Pleasures on month, Sir.

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Speaker 3: Adam's I have been with us for a long time

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as well. He he and I also worked together over

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at the Bar. I mentioned, you know, with Gavin and.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, did you get COVID to that Christmas party

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to remember our super Spreader events interview just after that

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and you're telling you like, oh, I had a combined.

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Speaker 3: Company by bar and the lab people all have the

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company Christmas party at the arcade and one person had COVID,

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So both of my both of my two businesses were

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down for the count.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, I remember that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Adam's been with us forever and he uh, he's

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definitely shipped a lot of your putters. He was, he was.

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Everything that is going on in here was all just him.

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There was nobody else doing that and in q including

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q C. Yes. Wow, So I mean he was kissing,

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shipping and receiving every single package that we had.

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Speaker 1: So does it make your life easier that you have

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this large of a staff because now you have to

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manage everybody?

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Speaker 3: Or oh no, having good having good people is the

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key to an easy life here. Yep. Just making sure

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you manage and train your crew appropriately. They do all

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the work.

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Speaker 4: For you, make you look like a rock star, and

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it just leaves you room to take care of them

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and make them feel like a loving family.

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Speaker 6: So is that the culture here? Is that? What comes

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from here? Is how the culture is?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 3: That's those are our company values love, unity and curiosity.

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Speaker 6: Unity and curiosity.

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Speaker 5: That's awesome, we think so not on the box, but.

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Speaker 6: So that's great.

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Speaker 3: Any curiosity. It was like company values again, a mission

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statement all right, let's get out of everybody's hair and

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hair well.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed that and encourage you to check

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out both of those videos on our golf Smarter TV

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YouTube channel. At golf Smarter, I told you a couple

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of weeks ago how much of an impact the broomstick

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has already had on my putting after only three rounds.

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But I've not been able to play since because of

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our vacation travel schedule. As we get into August, I

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will be playing a lot, and I'm looking forward to

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sharing more great results. This week's Golf Smarter Ambassador, Ben

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Burt from Exeter, New Hampshire, sent a video of himself

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for today's special episode opening in order to get a

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free link to Tony Manzoni's video of the Lost Fundamental.

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He had a choice.

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Speaker 5: He had two more choices, but he chose Tony Manzoni.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: He also had a choice of calling our toll free

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listener line or recording it on his phone and emailing it,

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which I truly appreciate that he did. Our Ambassador program

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