Speaker 1: He's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Cooston's radio.
Speaker 2: Really cooling off here. Let me tell you, uh ninety
Speaker 2: degrees it at ten oh seven on Elite You Night.
Speaker 2: That's that's one for the record books. I guess my
Speaker 2: name's Dan Ray. I'm the host of Nightside. We've heard
Speaker 2: every Monday through Friday night right here on WBZ, and
Speaker 2: we will continue to follow that global partner story. I
Speaker 2: hope the governor has a sense of fairness to at
Speaker 2: least review what the Board of Transportation Commissioners of Transportation
Speaker 2: whenever they're called did. That is a big, big decision
Speaker 2: because when you think about a thirty five year contract,
Speaker 2: if my math is correct, thirty five years will take
Speaker 2: us to the year twenty sixty. That's that's that's a
Speaker 2: long time. Hence twenty sixty and whatever decision is made
Speaker 2: this year, we'll have implications for many years to come.
Speaker 2: And so we're going to open up a conversation here
Speaker 2: about this moving target, which is the Iran Israel controversy.
Speaker 2: Last night, I think I told you that I thought
Speaker 2: there was a lot of confusion in the statement that
Speaker 2: the President had put President Trump had put on Trump
Speaker 2: on truth, social and I'm not going to go over
Speaker 2: it in great length. But it wasn't a simultaneous cease fire.
Speaker 2: It wasn't one of these things that on the at
Speaker 2: the eleventh hour, on the eleventh day, at the eleventh minute,
Speaker 2: the fighting will stop. No, it was. It was officially
Speaker 2: he wrote, Iran will start the cease fire, and upon
Speaker 2: the twelfth hour, Israel will start the cease fire, and
Speaker 2: upon the twenty fourth hour, an official end to the
Speaker 2: twelve day war will be saluted by the world. Well,
Speaker 2: the question that was open was if Iran is starting
Speaker 2: the ceasefire last night at midnight, and Israel was going
Speaker 2: to start the ceasefire twelve hours later. That gave Israel
Speaker 2: really twelve hours to do whatever they wanted, and I
Speaker 2: think Israel started to do that as Israel has wont
Speaker 2: to do. And then of course Iran responded. And this morning,
Speaker 2: as the President was leaving for this NATO meeting in
Speaker 2: Europe in the Netherlands where he is tonight, the President
Speaker 2: was pretty upset. So let's go to cut twenty two. Rob.
Speaker 2: This was a frustrated President Trump. He's going to have
Speaker 2: a lot to be frustrated about here. As we talked
Speaker 2: this evening. But this was President Trump leaving the White
Speaker 2: House this morning, frustrated that the ceasefire, which he had
Speaker 2: in his mind I'm sure maneuvered and had basically created,
Speaker 2: had fallen apart by six o'clock. Well by early morning.
Speaker 2: Cut twenty two, please, rub.
Speaker 3: I think violated it.
Speaker 4: I don't think that.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure they did it intentionally. They couldn't range
Speaker 3: people back.
Speaker 5: I don't like the.
Speaker 3: Fact that Israel went out this morning at all. And
Speaker 3: I'm going to see if I can stop it.
Speaker 1: Do you mean that, Rode, we need to see it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3: They violated, but Israel violated it too.
Speaker 2: Okay. So that was early this morning, and then he
Speaker 2: got his language got a little salty as a matter
Speaker 2: of fact. And I hope that Marina has cleaned this
Speaker 2: language up. I believe she has. This is cut number
Speaker 2: twenty one. Rob.
Speaker 3: What we have, we basically have to countries that have
Speaker 3: been fighting so long and so hard that they don't
Speaker 3: know what the they're doing. Do you understand that I'm
Speaker 3: not happy that Israel's going out now? There was one
Speaker 3: rocket that I guess was fired overboard. It was after
Speaker 3: the time I met and admits it's target and now
Speaker 3: Israel's going out. These guys got to calm down ridiculously.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, later today there was apparently a leak or
Speaker 2: two because I watched CNN, and I also watched ABC
Speaker 2: Nightly News, No, the ABC World News Tonight. They have
Speaker 2: different names for there, they have different titles Nightly News,
Speaker 2: World News Tonight, the World, et cetera. And there was
Speaker 2: a great deal of reporting tonight that perhaps the President
Speaker 2: who used the word obliterated on Saturday Saturday evening might
Speaker 2: have been a little premature, because now there's questions about
Speaker 2: are there any Iranian centrifuges left, how much of this
Speaker 2: enriched uranium is available, how much of it was destroyed,
Speaker 2: And there were some leaks today which suggested that the
Speaker 2: success or the obliteration of the three sites perhaps is
Speaker 2: not as complete as the President felt. Now. From where
Speaker 2: I'm sitting, and I'm not an expert in this, and
Speaker 2: probably neither of you, but that's okay, we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about it. From where I'm sitting, I don't see
Speaker 2: either how you're going to figure out who how much
Speaker 2: damage was done. These sites are hundreds of feet underground
Speaker 2: where all of the paraphernalia was that was at these
Speaker 2: three sides. And my understanding is that if the damage
Speaker 2: was done that these bunker bombs do. I don't know
Speaker 2: how anyone can even get down to where the bombs detonated,
Speaker 2: at least as quickly. If anybody could get down there,
Speaker 2: I assume it probably would be MASAD agents, but I
Speaker 2: don't think that they can actually accurately calculate. When the
Speaker 2: President talked about the sites being obliterated, I think he
Speaker 2: was speaking, you know, the same way that a football
Speaker 2: coach might speak after they win a game. I mean,
Speaker 2: the President is always engages in overstatement. Everything is the
Speaker 2: most amazing, it's the greatest that's never happened before, and
Speaker 2: this is Golden Age and all of that sort of language.
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's helpful. I think that the
Speaker 2: President should have been more restrained in his remarks, but
Speaker 2: he wasn't. So now the question is when will we
Speaker 2: get the true assessments and what do you think? Well,
Speaker 2: they will say so, and then if this ceasefire doesn't hold,
Speaker 2: what happens next? So there's more questions than answers tonight.
Speaker 2: And I just want to open up the phone lines
Speaker 2: and give everyone an opportunity to express their thoughts and ideas.
Speaker 2: I think that this attack was the correct thing, the
Speaker 2: correct action to take. As a matter of fact, some
Speaker 2: Democrats have called for the impeachment of President Trump. I
Speaker 2: don't think that that is even within the realm of possibility,
Speaker 2: particularly in view of the number of attacks that Democratic
Speaker 2: presidents have participated in, you know again, over the years.
Speaker 2: And I think if there ever was an attack which
Speaker 2: was important and justified, this would be it, in my opinion. Now,
Speaker 2: John Fetterman, the Democratic Senator from Pennsylvania, was very clear
Speaker 2: in his comment today or late yesterday talking and of
Speaker 2: course his vote holds much more weight than that of AOC.
Speaker 2: But this is what Fetterman had to say. Cut sixteen.
Speaker 2: Please Rob.
Speaker 5: Alexandrio Cosio Cortez says the president shouldn't be impeached because
Speaker 5: he's impulsive.
Speaker 1: What do you think of that?
Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean, of course no, she knows that,
Speaker 2: I know it. We all know what. That's not going anywhere.
Speaker 6: And you know, he's been impeached twice and now he
Speaker 6: still our president as well now too, so it's not
Speaker 6: going anywhere. And I don't think that's helpful and I
Speaker 6: think if you throw that term around, that actually diminishes
Speaker 6: what the severity of what impeachment is really reserved for.
Speaker 2: All Right, So bottom line is the Democrats, understandably are
Speaker 2: going to try to make their political points. I think
Speaker 2: it's a mistake for the national Democrats to make this.
Speaker 2: I watched CNN today and their poster suggested that the
Speaker 2: vast majority of American people were opposed to what the
Speaker 2: President did. Now, I believe those numbers will turn around.
Speaker 2: And here's why. I believe that if Iran had not
Speaker 2: suffered a very serious setback. And I don't know how
Speaker 2: many centrifugias are left, I don't know how much enriched
Speaker 2: plutonium is left, if any, I don't know where it's gone.
Speaker 2: I don't know any of this. The only thing that
Speaker 2: I can allude to is the fact that Iran is
Speaker 2: now willing to engage in a cease fire, and it's
Speaker 2: apparently been holding for a little over twelve hours. And
Speaker 2: assuming it does the fact that they would just be
Speaker 2: willing to engage in this cease fire with Israel, who
Speaker 2: they have intended and have said that they would like
Speaker 2: to wipe off the face of the earth. That says
Speaker 2: more to me than anything. I would assume the Iranian
Speaker 2: leaders have some idea, a pretty good idea right now,
Speaker 2: of what damage was inflicted on these three nuclear sites
Speaker 2: and what impact whatever that damage is, will have on
Speaker 2: their efforts to get their nuclear operation back up and
Speaker 2: running if they can. I don't know that they can.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe you do. Six seven four ten
Speaker 2: thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. I
Speaker 2: don't think any of these network journalists who are talking
Speaker 2: about what sources are telling me this. Sources are telling
Speaker 2: me that they may have sources, but they never tell
Speaker 2: you who the sources are, and in art many cases
Speaker 2: they're dead wrong and they have a history of being wrong.
Speaker 2: So why should you trust them when they say, oh,
Speaker 2: two sources have told us, Does it matter to me?
Speaker 2: Look at what people do, not what they say, and
Speaker 2: look at what the Iranian government has done in the
Speaker 2: twenty four to forty eight hours after the attack. That
Speaker 2: tells me more than any anonymous source. Join the conversation.
Speaker 2: We got a lot to talk about. This is an
Speaker 2: important subject. Six one, seven, two, five, four to ten
Speaker 2: thirty got a couple of lines there, and I got
Speaker 2: one line of six one seven nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Let's get it going right after the break here on Nightside.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones. Let me go to Jeff
Speaker 2: in Waltham. Jeff, you first, this hour a Night's Side.
Speaker 2: Your take on this developing story, Go ahead, Jeff, Oh.
Speaker 4: Okay, My take is this, Dan, I think it's absolutely
Speaker 4: imperative for world survival that Iranian nuclearization be prevented.
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree with you more on that couldn't create.
Speaker 4: That based on their actions and their rhetoric. Okay, now
Speaker 4: of the regime.
Speaker 7: Ye.
Speaker 4: Secondly, I think from what you said, and I haven't
Speaker 4: followed the full story year concerning the ceasefire, but if
Speaker 4: the seats fire did not begin at the same time
Speaker 4: for both sides, Uh, that strikes me. It's a quite
Speaker 4: unsound proposition.
Speaker 2: And I talked about that last night.
Speaker 7: When I mean that is that because.
Speaker 4: Obviously when that happens, one side is vulnerable very unfairly.
Speaker 4: And I think, uh, whoever proposed those terms, and I
Speaker 4: don't know who it was, UH, have demonstrated a major
Speaker 4: lack of foresight because a ceasefire should always begin at
Speaker 4: the same time for both parties. Otherwise it's not a ceasefire,
Speaker 4: and one party is the thing is sitting duck. Okay,
Speaker 4: so that's unsound.
Speaker 2: Those terms. Those terms were articulated by President Trump when
Speaker 2: he last night about six o two pm. I'm holding
Speaker 2: his statement in my hands in which he wrote and
Speaker 2: I was confused by it, and it could be that
Speaker 2: everybody was confused by it. But you're right, a ceasefire
Speaker 2: should be a mutual agree.
Speaker 5: Uh, if we have.
Speaker 2: That's correct.
Speaker 5: You got it.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I am very gratified, very gratified to have it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I appreciate your call as well, and thank you
Speaker 2: for your support of Israel. Jeff, by the way, you
Speaker 2: had called me privately about a month ago about an
Speaker 2: individual who was under indictment, and I saw that there
Speaker 2: was a I believe, either a guilty plea or yes
Speaker 2: there was Okay. I tried to call you about you,
Speaker 2: congratulate you. I hope that part of that settlement or
Speaker 2: that guilty plea was for uh you, you to be
Speaker 2: get the money back that was reimmersed.
Speaker 4: Well, that's yet to come. Maybe I'll contact you privately
Speaker 4: about that matter.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for you. I tried to call you.
Speaker 4: And thank you so much for your concern about it,
Speaker 4: and thank you for the airtime tonight.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Jeff, talk to you soon. Good night. That's
Speaker 2: a great night. Let me go next to Mike and Beverly. Mike,
Speaker 2: you next on nightside.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Hey, Dan, can you hear me?
Speaker 2: You know, Mike you always ask me can you hear me?
Speaker 2: And I've never had problems hearing you, So.
Speaker 5: You can just get right one time he did. Dan.
Speaker 7: That's why I just make it sure, you know, But
Speaker 7: I just always making sure anyway. First off, can you
Speaker 7: stop watching the left wing media channels please?
Speaker 2: First of all, just so you know, I when when
Speaker 2: I UH eat during the day, I eat a balanced diet.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but there are some people
Speaker 2: who just eat popcorn and pepsi or something like that.
Speaker 2: I try to eat fruits and vegetables and greens and
Speaker 2: uh lots of water. And I also do the same thing.
Speaker 2: When I consume news, I believe it or not believe it.
Speaker 2: I read the New York Times, I read the Boston Globe,
Speaker 2: I read the Boston Herald, I read the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2: I watch ABC, NBC, and CB. I watch some Fox
Speaker 2: and I watch some CNN, and I watch Bloomberg. So
Speaker 2: I have a responsibility to you and to everyone in
Speaker 2: this audience to present a balanced point of view, and
Speaker 2: in addition to that, give everyone an opportunity to say
Speaker 2: whatever they want. And what you might think is a
Speaker 2: biased channel. That's your opinion. But I want to make
Speaker 2: sure that I can respond to anything anyone throws at me,
Speaker 2: because I'm sitting up here and I got tens of
Speaker 2: thousands of listeners and a lot of them out They
Speaker 2: would like to see me be wrong or make a mistake, Mike,
Speaker 2: But I come into the program as prepared as I
Speaker 2: can possibly be. Does it mean I don't make mistakes.
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. But I try to minimize those mistakes, and
Speaker 2: part of doing that is to have a balanced diet
Speaker 2: and also a balanced understanding points of view of what's
Speaker 2: going on in the world. I know I've given you
Speaker 2: a long answer, but I think you get it.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Yes, anyway, as the bombing goes, it's Santa.
Speaker 7: So what I understand Israel has people on the ground already.
Speaker 7: I just kind of take a little time for the
Speaker 7: bombers to go through that. They guess they have some
Speaker 7: people over in Iran. They gotta go through that. I
Speaker 7: don't know how that works, or nobody's probably going to
Speaker 7: go through there physically. They'll probably do it on.
Speaker 2: Biden into this. We've talked about that. Here's what Here's
Speaker 2: what Israel does. Israel has people on the ground in
Speaker 2: I run most agents who either are Iranian or appeared
Speaker 2: to be Iranian and speak uh fluent Farsi, so therefore
Speaker 2: they can blend in. They may have people within the
Speaker 2: higher structure of the military. I listened to a phone
Speaker 2: call today that someone sent me of an Iranian general
Speaker 2: being threatened by an Israeli operative, and it was it
Speaker 2: was in Israeli or Farsi, and I didn't understand that,
Speaker 2: but I read the subtitles and basic they were telling
Speaker 2: this Iriti in general, you have twelve hours to live.
Speaker 2: If you want to make a statement, a public statement,
Speaker 2: that you are disassociating yourself in the regime, you will
Speaker 2: be spared, and your wife will be spared, and your
Speaker 2: family will be spared, even though you don't deserve to
Speaker 2: be spared. And you could tell that this Iranian general
Speaker 2: just with the tone of the voices, he was taking
Speaker 2: this pretty seriously. You don't want to mess with the Israelis.
Speaker 2: They know what they're doing here.
Speaker 7: And yet you know, the whole you know, the phone
Speaker 7: blow up thing was you know a few months ago,
Speaker 7: ARTHA was pretty much outside of the box, very creative,
Speaker 7: all that sort of stuff wiped out.
Speaker 2: They wiped out Hezbollah's leadership in a matter of twenty
Speaker 2: four hours. And the first thing they did was they
Speaker 2: hit cell phones and then they the second round was
Speaker 2: the walkie talkies, which Hesbola would have distributed to their members.
Speaker 2: So they're pretty.
Speaker 7: Gonna go, well, I support it very much and needs
Speaker 7: to be done.
Speaker 5: You know, the whole.
Speaker 7: Uh Trump brahm AOC thing, you know, out of their mind,
Speaker 7: have peachment, you know, I mean that's the first time
Speaker 7: they go to and you know, I want something else. Earlier, Uh,
Speaker 7: somebody else had done the same thing Trump has done.
Speaker 7: Six to seven of the president have done the same
Speaker 7: thing He's done on different situations and never never again.
Speaker 2: I got it. You have to consider the source AOC
Speaker 2: is the Marjorie Taylor Green of the Democratic Party. Okay, uh,
Speaker 2: And so as crazy as you think AOC is, the
Speaker 2: Republicans had their crazies too, and the crazies don't help
Speaker 2: the people, the legitimate people within both parties elected officials
Speaker 2: who are trying to do what they considered to be
Speaker 2: the right thing. Mike, I heard you loud and clearly.
Speaker 2: I think you're you have the goods very much, Mike,
Speaker 2: take it easy. Six one seven two thirty, six, seven thirty.
Speaker 2: Here's the newscast. We'll be back in just about three
Speaker 2: or four minutes. And we have a couple of open lines.
Speaker 2: Joined the conversation. Last night. I mentioned that we had
Speaker 2: a paucity of female callers. We seem to have a
Speaker 2: paucity of female callers on issues of war and peace. Ladies,
Speaker 2: do not be afraid, do not be shy your opinions
Speaker 2: as welcome on this program as anyone, whatever the issue is.
Speaker 2: And I know that a lot of people have hesitation.
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Speaker 2: We'll be back on nights Side after this.
Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go. We're gonna go to
Speaker 2: Steve and Air. Steve, you were next on Nightside. Welcome,
Speaker 2: Hey Dan, how are you I'm good, Steve. What's going on?
Speaker 7: Well, I just wanted to chime in on everything.
Speaker 8: So you know what's happening with Iran? Those guys Hezbola,
Speaker 8: they've been doing all that for years and years, you know,
Speaker 8: and it's about time soon stepped up and did what
Speaker 8: it had to be done.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 8: Obama he tried doing, you know, eliminating some of those
Speaker 8: uh you know, all those scientists disappeared or whatever happened
Speaker 8: back then, but he paid them off, you know, he
Speaker 8: tried to buy the orients with money that it's not
Speaker 8: gonna work. What worked is what what what Trump did,
Speaker 8: and that's gonna.
Speaker 7: Continue to work.
Speaker 8: And that's what wakes them guys up. And they'll they'll
Speaker 8: realize it, you know, eventually because now they're coward. But
Speaker 8: it could be employee too, They could do it play impossible,
Speaker 8: who knows. We don't know that, right, but we.
Speaker 2: All we can do is look at the acts. And
Speaker 2: it seems to me that if they were not impacted,
Speaker 2: if they were not hurt, Uh, they wouldn't be engaging
Speaker 2: in this sort of ceasefire activity. Uh. They're they're they're hurt.
Speaker 2: They're hurting right now. And maybe maybe Uh, this is
Speaker 2: a time in which they will come to the table
Speaker 2: with clean hands and some sort of a deal could
Speaker 2: be worked. I don't know. If not, they're going to
Speaker 2: get hit again.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. These guys don't have that.
Speaker 8: They have an agenda.
Speaker 1: Remember, Oh, I.
Speaker 2: Know that, I know that.
Speaker 5: But it could be there.
Speaker 2: It could be under the circumstances that like anything else.
Speaker 2: You know, if look if if you are under attack
Speaker 2: and you feel that that you are now outgunned, Uh,
Speaker 2: you could choose two things you could choose, I guess
Speaker 2: political suicide and or or you can try to salvage
Speaker 2: your situation. I think they're in a tough spot to
Speaker 2: be really honest with you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's a certain sure idea. Yeah, but I
Speaker 8: agree with it. I like your analogy on the on
Speaker 8: the diet though, well, I agree with you. I agree
Speaker 8: with I'm the same way Dan, I watch it all.
Speaker 8: I don't take it all in. I don't follve that
Speaker 8: opinion on that laft, right. I see the truth. That's
Speaker 8: you know, three things in this life that will not
Speaker 8: remain hidden. Along the sun, the moon, and the truth.
Speaker 8: They're always going to come out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I I I understand. And the other thing too,
Speaker 2: is that you know I had I had a guest
Speaker 2: on the other night who I know. He is a
Speaker 2: really interesting analyst. His name is Tatsu Ikeda. He writes
Speaker 2: for Substack, and he did a very interesting analysis on
Speaker 2: the comparative strengths of the two countries Israel and Iran
Speaker 2: UH and he concluded that Iran had some some military superiority,
Speaker 2: both in terms of the size of the nation, the
Speaker 2: land mass, the population, its ability to produce relatively low
Speaker 2: cost missiles and the missile and the the the dome.
Speaker 2: The iron dome missiles that the Israelis were using were
Speaker 2: fairly much more expensive. And so I had a couple
Speaker 2: of people who were upset that I would have him
Speaker 2: on the air because they they felt that his analysis
Speaker 2: was wrong. Well, there's such keyboard warriors and they's so
Speaker 2: they're so courageous with the keyboard to send me an
Speaker 2: email which I'm the only person who sees it, which
Speaker 2: means it has no impact. You know, if you disagree
Speaker 2: with the guest that I have, call up and take
Speaker 2: the guest on good luck. Matter of fact, Tatsu on
Speaker 2: Sunday was the first analyst that I saw who had
Speaker 2: the the the video of the video of the the
Speaker 2: the trucks that had lined up a few days beforehand,
Speaker 2: which may have removed some of the materials from the
Speaker 2: from these three sites. And so he's oftentimes ahead of
Speaker 2: the game. I don't know what God removed. I don't
Speaker 2: know what was removed. Some people said it might have
Speaker 2: been dirt they were bringing. But the point is, in
Speaker 2: order to do my show well, I have to be
Speaker 2: able to listen to a variety of points of view.
Speaker 2: It's as simple as that.
Speaker 5: That's what I do.
Speaker 8: That's why I thank you jo Man and Man.
Speaker 7: And I agree.
Speaker 8: Those guys over there, the masade, they're invented way deep
Speaker 8: inside there. They've been there for years. We know that
Speaker 8: they are like the Russians years ago, when you know,
Speaker 8: all the Russians are here, living here and all that,
Speaker 8: and look what happened now the Iron Kirk fell, right,
Speaker 8: So now we deal with something different from intelligence point
Speaker 8: of view to the pod, they definitely have a hold
Speaker 8: on them.
Speaker 7: I know that. Look so and I.
Speaker 8: Wish them well, I wish it all just to go away.
Speaker 8: I've run the GPS, you know, and not you know,
Speaker 8: why do they want to continue to have dominance of
Speaker 8: going back to you know, the thirteenth century.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, look there there's a lot of
Speaker 2: hate going on over there. We have all of these wars.
Speaker 2: We have Indian Pakistan and each other's throats. We've had
Speaker 2: problems for decades. And in Ireland between the Catholics and
Speaker 2: the Protestants, and all around the world. You have your
Speaker 2: situations going on in Africa right now between uh poor
Speaker 2: nations and poor groups within nations. Sadly, but and and
Speaker 2: we have it in the Middle East. But guess what.
Speaker 2: The Middle East has economic opportunities that no other region
Speaker 2: in the world has. And if some people in Iran
Speaker 2: open their eyes and realize what could happen if they
Speaker 2: were cooperative not only with not only with Israel, but
Speaker 2: with Saudi Arabia. Iran is an enemy of Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 2: They're an enemy of of the U a E there
Speaker 2: are there, there were, an enemy of many of the states.
Speaker 2: The only people that that Iran is friendly with is Hesbala.
Speaker 2: They've been wiped out Hamas. They're a bunch of terrorists,
Speaker 2: the hoodies who are firing weapons. And we can wipe
Speaker 2: them out tomorrow if we have to. They don't doubt.
Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely, yeah they and that's why maybe they're waking up,
Speaker 8: you know, realize, uh, you know, we gotta do something that's.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 8: See, they're gonna get followed them. So let's hope. Let's
Speaker 8: hope we have a better world tomorrow then today. Ten
Speaker 8: degrees for sure as I went through.
Speaker 2: All right, Steve talked to you on the call right now,
Speaker 2: all right, good night. I don't want to short change
Speaker 2: the next caller, So I'm going to take a quick
Speaker 2: break here a little earlier, Rob, if it's okay, a
Speaker 2: couple of minutes early. I got some open lines here,
Speaker 2: which on this topic is unacceptable. Six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three to one,
Speaker 2: ten thirty will get you on. I have open lines
Speaker 2: in both areas. Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on w BZ, Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: Alright, let me go to GEO and end over GEO.
Speaker 2: Welcome back next on Nightside. Thanks for calling in a
Speaker 2: little earlier than you usually do.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Rio, Hello Dan.
Speaker 9: Uh the source of information is should go to the source.
Speaker 9: I did not read the papers of Israel yesterday or today,
Speaker 9: so I'm not informed in up to date. But the
Speaker 9: best papers are the Times of Israel, Howrett's h A.
Speaker 9: R Etz I left out an r and the Jerusalem Posts.
Speaker 9: They usually have the real information and often it disagrees
Speaker 9: with American newspapers dramatically. Now, as to the nuclear weapons,
Speaker 9: there's a group who was participating with Oppenheimer, and there
Speaker 9: was a man named Edward Teller, and Teller spent his
Speaker 9: time visiting Oppenheimer and then going to Israel and talking
Speaker 9: to their scientists, and then going to Russia and talking
Speaker 9: to the Russian science.
Speaker 2: We're talking, by the way, we're talking at nineteen forties.
Speaker 9: Go ahead, yes, yes, So scientists are not like regular people.
Speaker 9: Regular people have different things. Scientists are almost like a brotherhood.
Speaker 9: They're more interested in getting it right, and they're more
Speaker 9: interested in cooperating with other scientists than in cooperating with
Speaker 9: any particular country. So just how we invented, how we
Speaker 9: participated in inventing the nuclear weapon is the classic example
Speaker 9: of that. Now, the Persian scientists in the two thousands,
Speaker 9: from two thousand and twenty ten, the Jet Propulsion Lab
Speaker 9: in California, which is our source of rocket technology, and
Speaker 9: they do other kinds of research as well. The chief
Speaker 9: scientist was an Iranian scientists, The head of the laboratory
Speaker 9: under Bush was an Iranian scientists, and other scientists working
Speaker 9: in California for ten years at the Jet Propulsion Lab.
Speaker 9: Then they retired at any rate. Teller also spoke to
Speaker 9: people who were speaking to Iranian scientists in the nineteen forties.
Speaker 9: My conclusion is that Iran, if they Israel has had
Speaker 9: there's a group in Cambridge called the Union of Concerned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're very familiar with them, very familiar with that group.
Speaker 2: The point you were making about the Iranian scientist and
Speaker 2: you said your conclusion was, I didn't hear your conclusion.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 9: My conclusion was and is that all these people knew
Speaker 9: how to make a nuclear weapon in nineteen sixty The
Speaker 9: only one who has never produced a weapon, perhaps because
Speaker 9: of their religious feelings. We're trying to make them not
Speaker 9: a religious so that they will actually participate. The only
Speaker 9: one for sixty years is who has not used the
Speaker 9: lab to produce a weapon is Iran.
Speaker 2: But they've been so that's the point. Is the point,
Speaker 2: the ability to.
Speaker 9: Do it, but they don't have an incentive to do it. Well,
Speaker 9: for GEO.
Speaker 2: Look, you went three four minutes here on a speech,
Speaker 2: which is great. But I think your conclusion. Yeah, you've
Speaker 2: gone three forty four right now. Okay, what I'm telling
Speaker 2: you is I think your conclusion. We don't do speeches,
Speaker 2: we do conversations. I think your conclusion is wrong. They
Speaker 2: have been trying to make they have centrifuges, they have
Speaker 2: enriched uranium. They've been trying to make a weapon for years.
Speaker 9: That's why centrifuges have nothing to do with making a weapon.
Speaker 2: They have everything to do with what's making a weapon without?
Speaker 2: Can you make can you make it a weapon without?
Speaker 2: Can you make can you make nuclear weapons without centrifugions?
Speaker 9: You don't need centrifuge. Just make the material, the material, make.
Speaker 2: A nuclear weapons around, Geo, it's material. Okay. I don't
Speaker 2: want to get into I don't want to get into cousin.
Speaker 1: Around the world.
Speaker 2: I don't care about your cousin, Leo. Put your cousin
Speaker 2: on the phone, Geo. I gotta go, man, I gotta go, Geo.
Speaker 2: I tried to be as you called early, which I appreciate,
Speaker 2: and I tried to give you a wide berth. But
Speaker 2: you've taken me from Edward Teller. Uh and uh, you
Speaker 2: know in the nineteen forties to then, and you're telling
Speaker 2: me that Iran doesn't want to make a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2: You're absolutely wrong. You're absolutely wrong. If they could have
Speaker 2: said at any point, at any point, uh GEO, in
Speaker 2: the last ten years, in the last twenty years, we
Speaker 2: have no interest. We will allow inspectors to come in
Speaker 2: at unannounced times, which they have not been doing. They're
Speaker 2: now saying they will will not allow inspectors to come in.
Speaker 2: Of course, they want a nuclear weapon. They have said
Speaker 2: they want to destroy Israel.
Speaker 9: Israel has never been inspected in sixty years. Kennedy insisted
Speaker 9: on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will trust Israel, Uh with my life. I
Speaker 2: would not trust uh Iran with your life.
Speaker 9: I would trust the people of Israel with my life.
Speaker 9: I would not trust Benjamin Netanyan, and neither was most Israelis.
Speaker 9: Neither would mostralis Israelis.
Speaker 2: Why did they keep electing him prime minister?
Speaker 9: Jail because they have eight political parties and manipulation.
Speaker 2: I see, Okay, good, all right, thanks Gio, thanks very much.
Speaker 2: It was what you wanted to do was attack net
Speaker 2: Yahoo from the beginning. You should have gone right for it.
Speaker 2: Go right for it. Don't don't telling me about Edward
Speaker 2: he lived.
Speaker 9: I knew him when he lived in Boston.
Speaker 1: He was different, you know.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you'll do me a favor. Give him a
Speaker 2: call and bring him on the show and we'll have
Speaker 2: a debate. Okay, thanks, thanks to you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows he lived in Boston, that's true. Glenn and Brighton, Glenn,
Speaker 2: welcome back.
Speaker 5: How are you well? I'm depressed, And he said, it's
Speaker 5: angry at the same time because now this, if this
Speaker 5: piece Deill holds, Trump would have won me over what
Speaker 5: he did Saturday. But I Saturday, when I heard, you know,
Speaker 5: after voting for him for rest in my own business,
Speaker 5: I wanted to sneak past security and give him a spanking.
Speaker 5: Can't give him over my knee with good luck with that. No,
Speaker 5: I know it's not going to happen. But yep, okay,
Speaker 5: well you know what I'm saying. I just I you know,
Speaker 5: if I don't want him in peace, I don't want
Speaker 5: him in jail. If he could run again, i'd vote
Speaker 5: for him. But I just now, I just hope he
Speaker 5: doesn't own spebe because of this. Well, I had your back.
Speaker 5: Now you can't. I was hoping we'd just let b
Speaker 5: Be finish the job.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry that it hasn't worked out for you.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I was hoping the Red
Speaker 2: Sox will win the World Series. So I can understand
Speaker 2: feelings of disappointment GEO this, yeah, But all I'm just
Speaker 2: saying is that this situation is fluid. If the if
Speaker 2: the ceasefire holds great. If it doesn't hold, then then
Speaker 2: we'll deal with it. I think it is stunning that.
Speaker 2: I think it is stunning, and I think that it
Speaker 2: is so indicative of where we are tonight. I don't
Speaker 2: need to see battle assessments because battle assessments don't exist
Speaker 2: at this point. This is not taking photographs from space
Speaker 2: of the ground. This is three This is three hundred
Speaker 2: feet underground. The fact that Iran has engaged in a
Speaker 2: cease fire with Israel voluntarily within forty eight hours of
Speaker 2: the attack on the nuclear sites is all I need
Speaker 2: to know. It's all I need to know An. It's well,
Speaker 2: I'll say, I can't predict if it's going to hold.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, but I can tell
Speaker 2: you this, it's hell for the last twelve hours. And
Speaker 2: that's a good thing. That is so no reason to
Speaker 2: be depressed.
Speaker 5: No, I just don't want I just don't want Trump.
Speaker 5: You know, I held your bet. I don't want it
Speaker 5: to own baby because of you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I think you're overthinking it, Glenn. But that's okay. You
Speaker 2: gotta do what you gotta do. Okay.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not trying to overthink.
Speaker 2: I'm just sometimes you don't, but sometimes you do. You
Speaker 2: overthink and you don't realize it. Glenn. You and I
Speaker 2: are not players in this action. Okay, we are, Melia,
Speaker 2: are observers's and guess what we're better shaped today. Did
Speaker 2: you see what the stock market did today?
Speaker 5: No, I don't follow the stock market.
Speaker 2: Well I know you don't. The stock market was of
Speaker 2: about one one and a half percent across the board.
Speaker 2: That says to me that the money people in New
Speaker 2: York are feeling pretty good about where we are from
Speaker 2: just a business point of view. Okay, And the Dow futures.
Speaker 2: I'm going to look for the Dow futures for you
Speaker 2: right now and give you a sense as to where
Speaker 2: it's going to be tomorrow. I don't know what.
Speaker 5: This is another question.
Speaker 2: The dow are up a little bit tomorrow, so it's
Speaker 2: you know, there's there's some indecision or maybe they're peaked out.
Speaker 2: They're back. The scald market is doing very well, and
Speaker 2: that is an indicator that along with the fact that
Speaker 2: Iran wants to engage in peace talks or wants at
Speaker 2: least a cease fire. Maybe they're want peace talks at
Speaker 2: least a cease fire.
Speaker 5: I Okay, this may go good. I mean, I hope
Speaker 5: it does.
Speaker 2: I hope you're not depressed, Glenn, But you know what,
Speaker 2: you're depressing the hell out of my audience right now.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to let you go. Thanks.
Speaker 5: I had a question ask you.
Speaker 2: What's the question? What's the question?
Speaker 5: Who gets to decide who can have nukes and who can't?
Speaker 5: Like Israel, who can have But I thought that we
Speaker 5: decided by the World courtis.
Speaker 2: Decided by political power. China decided they want There are
Speaker 2: nine nations with nukes France, Germany, the United States, Russia, China, Pakistan, India, Israel,
Speaker 2: and I may be missing one there, but there are nine.
Speaker 2: The most powerful nations in the world have nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2: Mali and uh and Nicaragua do not have nuclear weapons
Speaker 2: because they do not have the political power to possess
Speaker 2: nuclear weapons.
Speaker 5: That's what I keep hearing Trump saying that he not
Speaker 5: We're not going to let you have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2: Yes, And what he did on Saturday night was his
Speaker 2: action which which he in which he sent a measure
Speaker 2: to them. He said, don't come on when you get that.
Speaker 2: You get that.
Speaker 5: That's why he Bob, don't I have a right to
Speaker 5: disagree with this particular of.
Speaker 2: Course you do. But but but we've gone four minutes
Speaker 2: and we got to go for the new cast. We'll
Speaker 2: talk soon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, good night.
Speaker 2: Coming back on Nightside. I'm looking for some callers who
Speaker 2: can actually respond to the questions i'm asking. We'll be
Speaker 2: back on Nightside right after the eleven o'clock news