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<v Speaker 1>My Billy cunning into Great America. Welcome this glorious Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>after and the Tri State Reds Baseball kicks off about

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<v Speaker 1>five forty nine temperatures up to seventy two degrees. Things

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<v Speaker 1>that looked been great. Of course, yesterday morning it was

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<v Speaker 1>announced that Pope Francis had died. The two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty seventh Pope is gone, and I thought, for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>An hour or two later, I thought about Brian Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>because I found myself on a Sunday checking out Chick

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<v Speaker 1>fil A on a Sunday, which I found out that's

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<v Speaker 1>a stupid move. But as I got to Chick fil A,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a line going in and out of Crossroads.

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<v Speaker 1>It was unbelievable, the thousands and thousands attending Crossroads. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, Brian Tome's not been on for many, many months.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Tom, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Tom, how are you, William?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing pretty good. I was wondering if I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a good enough American for you. You're don't call me anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just thought of you when I thought about

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<v Speaker 1>the Pope. Now tell me, first of all, as a

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<v Speaker 1>member of cross Roads, in fact, the founder of Crossroads.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like Saint Peter upon that rock Christ has built

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<v Speaker 1>his church. Can you tell me the reaction to feeling

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<v Speaker 1>of Crossroads on the passing of the Catholic Pope.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we certainly don't celebrate in anybody's death, especially somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who has done his best to defend the faith and

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<v Speaker 2>defend who God is. His best his ability so seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like a good, loving man. I didn't really know that

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<v Speaker 2>much about him, but I know his heart was in

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<v Speaker 2>the right place, and I trust he's with the Good

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<v Speaker 2>Lord right now.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as his death. Can you tell the American

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<v Speaker 1>people if somebody would say to you, maybe at the

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<v Speaker 1>Pearly Gates, what is the difference between Crossroads and Roman Catholicism,

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<v Speaker 1>what would be your answer?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Gosh, Well, it's hard to answer that because if

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about official Catholic theology, it doesn't necessarily line

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<v Speaker 2>up with what some of the priests teach, or with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who go with the Catholic Church believe.

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<v Speaker 2>But but in essence, uh, the Bible teaches and we

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<v Speaker 2>believe across Roads and Catholics do as well, that when

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<v Speaker 2>you when you die there's one question, and one question alone,

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<v Speaker 2>that is why should I let you into heaven? And

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<v Speaker 2>the answer, the correct answer is Jesus. That's the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Jesus died on the cross, He took all of

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<v Speaker 2>our sins put it on his back. So you and I, bill,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody's received perceived Christ, we never have to worry about

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<v Speaker 2>being condemned by God and we go to see Him.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, Roman says there's therefore now no condemnation for

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<v Speaker 2>those whom in Christ Jesus. So anybody who's in Christ Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>you get to heaven because of what Jesus has done,

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<v Speaker 2>not because what you have done. Now official Catholic theology,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, and I'm not a Catholic, and I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>studied in a Catholic seminary, but there's an intermediary period,

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<v Speaker 2>a holding zone, if you will, place to do penance,

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<v Speaker 2>a place to be in limbo, place to be kind

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<v Speaker 2>of atoning for your sins and working work in your

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<v Speaker 2>self off to get yourself ready. And I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>think the scriptures teach that it's purgatory.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, I guess if you committed a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of misdemeanors, or some traffic tickets. You gotta go to

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<v Speaker 1>purgatory for a while in state of grace, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you get to go upstairs. And I guess one of

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<v Speaker 1>the big issues that I have is what do you

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<v Speaker 1>say for most of the world, the great bulk of

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<v Speaker 1>the world has no conception of Jesus Christ. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>conception of Christianity, of the Pope's Apostles, the Epistles, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not even the Bible. The great majority of human beings

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<v Speaker 1>that have ever lived have not had that opportunity. What

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<v Speaker 1>happens to those billions and billions of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I believe that we are judged according to what

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<v Speaker 2>we know. So if you've been in a place where

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<v Speaker 2>you've never had the opportunity to name Jesus, I assume

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be some sort of accommodation for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope so, I think. So it seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>that way. Also when you talk to the thousands of people,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least here the interviews that have A friend

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<v Speaker 2>of mine, John Berkeley, has a best selling book on

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<v Speaker 2>this in New York Times, who's interviewed two thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>had near death experiences, and it seems like there's a

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<v Speaker 2>consistent thing where there is a chance that some of

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<v Speaker 2>them have that they actually reverse direction. That's not clearly

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<v Speaker 2>communicating the Bible, But you know, I don't know it's

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<v Speaker 2>clearly said that that can't happen either. In the end, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>God does whatever he wants to do, and we're not God,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm thankful for that.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the thief on the good thief, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, on the right side of the cross. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you a story about my brother, John Cunningham, who

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<v Speaker 1>died about four years ago. You never met practicing Roman

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic Saint Saviors. Went to Burcell High School, top of

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<v Speaker 1>his class, scholarship Michigan State, goes to Michigan State, completely

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<v Speaker 1>falls away from the faith or any Christian faith, ends

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<v Speaker 1>up in Alaska. I had no contact with my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a darling soul, a great character. For decades

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<v Speaker 1>go by, have no connection whatsoever. Every now in the

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<v Speaker 1>letter might come to my mom, where's John Well, he's

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<v Speaker 1>in Alaska? Where's John Well? He's in Japan? And I

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<v Speaker 1>said to my mom how to get to Japan? And

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<v Speaker 1>he said he woke up one morning and said there

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<v Speaker 1>was a Shinto shrine near Kyota that was beckoning him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, my mom doesn't kid very much. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? He said. He got up and

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<v Speaker 1>he read ancient Shinto sanscript and he wanted to learn Japanese.

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<v Speaker 1>So he spent six months learning Japanese. Ended up in

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<v Speaker 1>a shrine near Kyoto, Japan, and one way ticket and

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<v Speaker 1>spent six months eight months there interacting with it with

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<v Speaker 1>the locals in Japan, and they thought he was a prophet.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked like Santa Claus, he wore the robes and

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about Shinto in the religion. After six

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<v Speaker 1>months it got two out of hand. He can went

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<v Speaker 1>back to Alaska, ended up traveling around the country. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>practice any faith of which I'm familiar with until the

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<v Speaker 1>end of his life. So I'm with him and UC

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<v Speaker 1>Medical Center for the last three or four months of

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<v Speaker 1>his life. You know how that goes, surgery operas, kidney cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>this and that, And about a month before his death,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting with him. I get there about three thirty

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<v Speaker 1>in the afternoon, and we had a great relationship at

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<v Speaker 1>the end, and it reminded me of the good thief.

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<v Speaker 1>And my brother looked at me. I'm holding his hand

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<v Speaker 1>and he called me Chief, and he said, Chief, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>afraid I'm going to go to hell. And I've never

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<v Speaker 1>had a discussion with my brother about heaven or earth

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<v Speaker 1>or religion, never had a never discussed it with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, what do you mean? He said, I've done

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<v Speaker 1>things in my life I shouldn't have done, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>away from the Lord. And I said, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>want me to do? He said, get me a priest?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Shinto, or can you get me a Catholic priest?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm close to Father Anthony Brows and to father

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<v Speaker 1>that runs our Lady of Victory. Father Ben is great.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got a hold of Father Ben, who came down.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave him a confession, and he gave him the

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<v Speaker 1>last rites holy Communion. And from that point on my

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<v Speaker 1>brother had a peace. And I would like to think

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't live his life in such a way

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<v Speaker 1>that would condemn to hell for eternity. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>had several marriages and did some things he shouldn't have done.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was a gentle and a loving soul. But

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<v Speaker 1>he reminded me of the good thief that how is

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<v Speaker 1>it possible Brian tom that you can live your life

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<v Speaker 1>apart from the faith, apart from any religion, then at

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<v Speaker 1>the end you make one good decision. The good thief

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<v Speaker 1>on the cross, who wasn't baptized, had no religion, led

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible life, but at the end he walked through

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<v Speaker 1>the pearly gates with Jesus Christ of Nazareth. How's it

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<v Speaker 1>fair that someone like you can spend decades bringing so

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<v Speaker 1>many into the flock of crossroads, then someone else walks

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<v Speaker 1>into the pearly gates at the end of his life.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that fair?

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<v Speaker 2>Billy? You're man, you're serving me up some stuff. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to hit every pitcher give me. He gave me

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<v Speaker 2>a five pitches there. So let me start back at Shintoism.

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<v Speaker 2>Shintoism is not going to do you anything as relates

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<v Speaker 2>to God. In fact, it's going to take you away

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<v Speaker 2>from God. That's what's known in the Bible as a

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<v Speaker 2>false God. That's known as an idol. God abhores false

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<v Speaker 2>gods and idols. So that's not going to do you anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only gonna it's only gonna hurt you if you

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<v Speaker 2>believe in heaven, which we know about Heaven built because

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<v Speaker 2>of the Bible. That's how we know about heaven. The

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<v Speaker 2>concept of heaven is in no other religion unless it's

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<v Speaker 2>a later religion after Christianity that borrowed from it. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>having said that, it sounds like your brother may have

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<v Speaker 2>had a classic conversion experience with the priest there at

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<v Speaker 2>the end, he seems like it has the marks, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>marks of the fruit of the spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faith,

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<v Speaker 2>and self control, all those kind of things. So that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I would say about the what is just?

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<v Speaker 2>What is fair? The thing that I think the Catholics

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to get right, at least ancient Catholics who

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<v Speaker 2>believe in purgates were. What they're trying to get right

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<v Speaker 2>is how do we settle the scales here? If God

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<v Speaker 2>is just, surely it just doesn't mean someone goes to

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<v Speaker 2>Hell or someone goes to heaven. Hell is a is

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<v Speaker 2>God's justice system. But justice also means appropriate reward, and

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<v Speaker 2>there are multiple examples in the Bible where God talks

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<v Speaker 2>about unique rewards in heaven. Mother Teresa in heaven has

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<v Speaker 2>completely different, higher, more rewards than the thief. Actually, the

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<v Speaker 2>original language, I think is a malefactor does on the cross.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy I find very encouraging. He doesn't do anything

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<v Speaker 2>that we think a Christian should do. He doesn't volunteer,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't tithe, he doesn't go to a new members class,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't he doesn't mouth the right. Theology always says

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<v Speaker 2>that Jesus is remember me when you when, when when

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<v Speaker 2>you get to your throne, And Jesus says today, today, today,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll be in paradise. So that guy immediately was in

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<v Speaker 2>a paradise setting in heaven. But the house he lived in,

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<v Speaker 2>the blessings he had would not have been the same

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<v Speaker 2>as somebody who is faithful.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The strange thing about that people would say immediately, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's horrible, that's awful. No, it's it's not horrible and

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<v Speaker 2>awful because there's no tear in there's no sin in heaven,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no jealousy in heaven, there's no covetous cys in heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>So those who have less, less rewards are still going

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<v Speaker 2>to be one hundred percent great, full of joy, close

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<v Speaker 2>with the Lord Jesus, having an amazing time, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be bemoaning and jealous and coveting the

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<v Speaker 2>rewards somebody else has, because that's there's all of sin,

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<v Speaker 2>and there is no effective sin in the Bible, or

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<v Speaker 2>it's rather no effective sin in heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>And some would say, Brian Tom there is no hell,

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<v Speaker 1>because after all, God is merciful. And if someone living

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<v Speaker 1>in the back reaches of Afghanistan or in the Congo

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<v Speaker 1>had no relationship to Jesus whatsoever, it wouldn't be fair

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<v Speaker 2>ladies who make bake goods, for people who've never received Jesus. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I would have been stunned. It's gone way beyond

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<v Speaker 2>anything we would have thought of when we started in

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<v Speaker 2>a rented middle school in Hyde Park. Utterly stunned. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>pinch ourselves that God has chosen us worthy to be

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<v Speaker 2>used to some degree. But am I satisfied now? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not satisfied now. No, no, I'm not saying I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not satisfied. And so every single person Cincinnati has a

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<v Speaker 2>vibrant relationship with their creator, every single one. Now, the

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<v Speaker 2>with studies and surveys, that America is starting to bounce

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<v Speaker 2>back towards God. We're starting to realize that the godless,

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<v Speaker 2>godless worldview that says, well, there was blackness and there

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<v Speaker 2>was go and now there's you isn't working. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>why we have such epidemic proportions of fear and anxiety,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you don't believe that there's a divine being

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<v Speaker 2>that has your back, you dam' well better be afraid.

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<v Speaker 2>You absolutely should be anxious because you don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>Backstop people like you or I, Bill, or anybody receives Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a backstop for us. We walk in confidence. We

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<v Speaker 2>our worth is. And he says, you're worth me dying

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<v Speaker 2>for you. That's the worth. It's like the ultimate illustration

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<v Speaker 2>for me is if I call you up and you

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<v Speaker 2>have a mortgage and I say, Bill, how much is

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<v Speaker 2>is your mortgage? And you say whatever the amount is?

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<v Speaker 2>And I say, well, the thing is, Bill, somebody walked

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<v Speaker 2>if I said, well, so how much do you owe?

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<v Speaker 2>pays the debt. The debt paid, and that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Is more expected from people like you as supposed expected

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<v Speaker 2>In a sense, I hear people say, well, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to live by a different standard, as if I can't

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<v Speaker 2>have a beer and other people can. That's not what

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<v Speaker 2>That's not true. What is true is to who much

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<v Speaker 2>is given, much is required. So when I have been

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<v Speaker 2>entrusted the number of people that we have across Roads,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been entrusted the amazing amount of generosity dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for the Kingdom of God. And if I don't, God's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna be happy. And I'm gonna hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>How many members across Roads are They're currently about members.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't have official members offer roles. If you

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<v Speaker 2>if you said how many people call Crossroads home, it's

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<v Speaker 2>about fifty thousand. If you said how many people came

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<v Speaker 2>to Easter, it's I haven't had the final numbers. We

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<v Speaker 2>were praying for sixty, so sixty got somewhere around there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then every week you got people who were in

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<v Speaker 2>to say. And that's fine. We're not here to count

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<v Speaker 1>We can Brian Tom, thank you. I'm glad were hooked

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<v Speaker 1>up again. I'm I guess it was the post passing

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<v Speaker 1>the passing of Pope Francis.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, well right now and say, I'm sad in he's passed,

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<v Speaker 2>that recognizes that. All right, Brian, that's not an anti

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, great, those people who are dead in heaven,

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<v Speaker 1>Much is given, from whom much is expected. And I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, Brian Tom is kind of have a good

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<v Speaker 1>you in heaven above. And I want to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>if we got thirty seconds remaining. Is the true burial

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<v Speaker 2>It was in the Holy Seppler Church, no question. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel that way because it's hyper religious. No question,

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Brian Tom, thank you very much, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah right, Bill, We'll see a brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue with more. Brian Tom, one of the leaders

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<v Speaker 1>of the Christian faith here in Greater Cincinnati, and let's

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<v Speaker 1>continue with more. Red Spaceball kicks off about five forty

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<v Speaker 1>on news radio seven hundred WLW by Billy Cunningham, the

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<v Speaker 1>Great American and some exciting news this morning. Came out

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<v Speaker 1>to the Hamny County Commission's office headed up by Disney's

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<v Speaker 1>tree House and about a agreement with the Bengals. The

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<v Speaker 1>Memoran of Understanding has been signed. You may know the

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<v Speaker 1>last few weeks I had on Matt Huffman, Speaker of

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<v Speaker 1>the House, loan with others who are saying, well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bengals actually have a deal joining you and

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<v Speaker 1>I now is Denise tree House, Hamny County Commissioner. Denise,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell the American people this afternoon kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the memo of understanding and what it means for the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals to taxpayers and the American people kind of give

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<v Speaker 5>So the memorandum of understanding is about a one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and twenty million dollar investment between the team and the

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<v Speaker 5>NFL into the county's asset, which is the stadium. The

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<v Speaker 5>county is in for some of that as well, but

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to do some of the improvements that have

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<v Speaker 5>been identified through this master plan. You know, it's about

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<v Speaker 5>elevators and escalators and plazas, seats and all the things

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<v Speaker 5>that we need to do. But for the first time ever,

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<v Speaker 5>the NFL is participating in that financial stack and the

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<v Speaker 5>team is in substantially too. So it's a good day

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<v Speaker 5>for the tax players because we're leveraging our money with

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<v Speaker 5>the NFL and the team to get stuff done in

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<v Speaker 1>Now, how does this relate to the extension of the

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<v Speaker 1>lease or a new lease, Because the last time I

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<v Speaker 1>had you on about a week or ten days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you said it would be a downer if somehow the

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<v Speaker 1>Bangals would exercise the two year option in a month

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<v Speaker 1>or two, that would be a downer. How does that

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<v Speaker 1>impact that extension?

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean the least extension that we were talking about

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<v Speaker 5>is we're ongoing negotiations about that. We're at the table

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<v Speaker 5>with the team. But this, I mean, if you look

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<v Speaker 5>at it on its space, it's certainly a good sign

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<v Speaker 5>that they are using their money, in the NFL's money

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<v Speaker 5>to do these improvements. They got this money a while back.

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<v Speaker 5>We need to move on it to make sure we

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<v Speaker 5>can get it done by next year. And so that

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<v Speaker 5>is the timing element here, but it's really important. It's

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<v Speaker 5>part of the larger stack of projects, and so it's

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<v Speaker 5>important that we leverage the NFL and the team's money

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<v Speaker 5>to get this stuff done. You mentioned something else, and

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<v Speaker 5>the process at the state level, because I've been asked, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know you didn't get in the budget. Well, let

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<v Speaker 5>me correct that and say we did get in the budget.

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<v Speaker 5>was us in the budget. It went to the House.

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<v Speaker 2>The House took that out.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the budget and put something different in for the Haslams.

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<v Speaker 5>And now we're over on the Senate side negotiating the

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<v Speaker 5>same thing. And so I don't know what's going to

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<v Speaker 5>come out of the Senate, but I think it will

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<v Speaker 5>be different from the governor's version or the House's version.

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<v Speaker 1>One I had on Matt Hoffman. He said that the

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<v Speaker 1>Haslam deal is different because in the HASLM. Browns deal,

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<v Speaker 1>it's brand new money in some cornfield in southern Calahoga County,

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<v Speaker 1>like two and a half three billion. The Bengal deal

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<v Speaker 1>was different because it's an upgradest renovation that may generate

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of additional income. But Matt Hoffman is

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<v Speaker 1>saying that the taxpayer can't be on the hook for

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to break even. So is the news dreat

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<v Speaker 5>Well, listen, I don't want to be penalized because we

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<v Speaker 5>did twenty years ago what Cyahoga is doing now. I

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<v Speaker 5>mean that that's that's not fair. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 5>for the and by the way, Cyahoga County and the

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<v Speaker 5>So I just want to be really clear that the

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<v Speaker 5>team that Cincinnati Bengals and the county commissioners are on

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<v Speaker 5>the same page. That is not the case in northern Ohio.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just want to point that out because I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's important. But why would you know, we tick

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<v Speaker 5>off forty million dollars for the state every year on

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<v Speaker 5>the banks and that's the Bengals, it's the Reds, it's

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<v Speaker 5>the collective. But why should we be penalized for that

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<v Speaker 5>when it comes to, you know, funding these assets that

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<v Speaker 5>have benefited the state all these years. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 5>that's not right. And so the scheme that they've come

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<v Speaker 5>up with for the Hansloms doesn't fit what we're doing

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<v Speaker 5>here in Hamilton County. And that's what we've said.

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<v Speaker 4>To the speaker.

422
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<v Speaker 5>I mean he heard us loud and clear. And so

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<v Speaker 5>we're still, you know, working with the state to try

424
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<v Speaker 5>to come up with something that works for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this contingent? Is this one hundred and eighty four million,

426
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<v Speaker 1>two thirds from the Bengals slash NFL about and one

427
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<v Speaker 1>third from the Hamilton County? Is this contingent on a

428
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<v Speaker 1>long term, long term deal?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you talking about the MoU? Are you talking about

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<v Speaker 5>the large term?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hear the MoU. The one hundred and eighty

432
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<v Speaker 1>four million announced more or less today, say about one

433
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<v Speaker 1>twenty from the Bengals, about sixty four from the county.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that contingent on signing a long term deal or

435
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<v Speaker 1>is that is that going to proceed?

436
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<v Speaker 5>Nonetheless, it is proceeding now. But if we don't come

437
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<v Speaker 5>to an agreement on a long term lease, then we

438
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<v Speaker 5>can claw back and we can drop out of this

439
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<v Speaker 5>deal that we just made. So we've got an out

440
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<v Speaker 5>clause in there. But you know, as you know, Lily,

441
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<v Speaker 5>I'm an optimist, and so I shouldn't be. And so

442
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<v Speaker 5>right now we've been meeting with the Bengals. We're working

443
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<v Speaker 5>this together. We're working in collaboration on this MoU and

444
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<v Speaker 5>also at the state level, and.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, so far, so good.

446
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<v Speaker 5>But we do have a provision in here that we

447
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<v Speaker 5>can get out of it if need be.

448
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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, And so the Bengals fans to show up

449
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<v Speaker 1>in August for a preseason game or September, that's only

450
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<v Speaker 1>about five six months away. Will anything be seen at

451
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<v Speaker 1>that point?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we're always doing renovations, but these projects that are

453
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<v Speaker 5>in here, the reason we had to do it this

454
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<v Speaker 5>week or next it's actually going to be next week

455
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<v Speaker 5>is that there's so much lead time because of the

456
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<v Speaker 5>nature of the projects. And so these projects are going

457
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<v Speaker 5>to go online in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, twenty twenty six waiting are you twenty twenty six?

459
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<v Speaker 1>Which you know? Are you optimistic that the Bengals were

460
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<v Speaker 1>not exercised a two year but rather seek a long

461
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<v Speaker 1>term deal. You're at the table, You're meeting with Katie

462
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<v Speaker 1>and Troy, and I guess Mike Brown and others, the lawyers,

463
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<v Speaker 1>et cetera and Gableman. Are you optimistic the Bengals want

464
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<v Speaker 1>to do a long term deal and not a stop gap.

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<v Speaker 5>I am hopeful that we will come to a long

466
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<v Speaker 5>term deal by the end of the deadline. That's what

467
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<v Speaker 5>I'm now. They can exercise the extension of the current

468
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<v Speaker 5>leis that is not good for the county or the taxpayers,

469
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<v Speaker 5>and so I'm hopeful that we don't get to that point,

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<v Speaker 5>but rather have a long term deal instead.

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<v Speaker 1>When I spoke to you about ten days ago, you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of said one third from the county, one third

473
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<v Speaker 1>from the state, one third from the Bengal slash NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that still there? Because I sent on to Matt Huffin,

475
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<v Speaker 1>by the way, the stories, and I'm sure you're in

476
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<v Speaker 1>contact with him, But nonetheless, is that still the deal?

477
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<v Speaker 1>From your mind? One third state, one third Bengals, one

478
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<v Speaker 1>third county.

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<v Speaker 5>So we've always talked about this as a third to third,

480
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<v Speaker 5>a third. I mean it's fluid, a little fluid. I mean,

481
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<v Speaker 5>don't hold me two the exec numbers. But yeah, I

482
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<v Speaker 5>mean I think that's the idea that it's a stack

483
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<v Speaker 5>that works for the taxpayers and you know, works to

484
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<v Speaker 5>make sure that facility is upgraded to the level we

485
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<v Speaker 5>need it to be because it's not only about the games.

486
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<v Speaker 5>It's about concerts and football games, high school football games

487
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<v Speaker 5>and other events and making that thing more accessible. And

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<v Speaker 5>so it's a good you know, it's it's it's something

489
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<v Speaker 5>we need to do for the general public. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we've always talked about this in the third of third

491
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<v Speaker 5>to third, and that's what we're shooting for.

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<v Speaker 1>The first phase is eight thirty renovation for the pay corps,

493
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<v Speaker 1>with three to four phases rolling out through twenty twenty nine.

494
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<v Speaker 1>Anticipated the cost of a two hundred and ten million

495
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<v Speaker 1>per phase. So when you talk about this phase in

496
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<v Speaker 1>the MoU, this is one of four phases. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's right, and a good point that this is

498
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<v Speaker 5>not money that's utilized all in one year. I mean,

499
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<v Speaker 5>we can't. We don't have a expacity to do that,

500
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<v Speaker 5>and so it rolls out over five years or so.

501
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<v Speaker 5>And so it's not and this is important to know

502
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<v Speaker 5>about the state. It's not like we're asking the state, Hey,

503
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<v Speaker 5>give us all of that money upfront to participate in

504
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<v Speaker 5>this financial sect. It's a burn, right, It goes over

505
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<v Speaker 5>a few years, and so that's yeah, that's the nature

506
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<v Speaker 5>of what we're looking for here.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, are you working toward the idea that the county

508
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<v Speaker 1>will control the events more than the Bengals with the

509
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<v Speaker 1>veto power? Will that veto power be gone?

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<v Speaker 5>We are looking to get something in the new lease

511
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<v Speaker 5>that gives us the ability to bring more events into

512
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<v Speaker 5>that stadium to the benefit of the taxpayers. We're not

513
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<v Speaker 5>doing it now, and we need to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And when will you sign the deal the MoU When

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<v Speaker 1>would that be done?

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<v Speaker 5>We're shooting for next Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Next Tuesday, all right, Denise, congratulations? We think is it

518
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<v Speaker 1>premature to say congratulations?

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<v Speaker 5>I want to say, Willie, this is a new look.

520
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<v Speaker 5>We've never had the NFL give us any money for

521
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<v Speaker 5>our stadium before, and the team's participating in a big

522
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<v Speaker 5>way here, So yeah, I think it's good.

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<v Speaker 3>News, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Denise tree House, thank you very much. I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>in meetings, but thanks for coming on this afternoon of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bill Cunningham Show. Denise, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks clearly God Bush.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue with more. Well, there it is. And you

529
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<v Speaker 1>might recall when I had on Madam Adam Byrd. Sloaney

530
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<v Speaker 1>had on Senator Blessing, then I had on the Speaker

531
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<v Speaker 1>of the House, then I had on the Governor. And

532
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<v Speaker 1>this is fluid. Underline the word fluid, because in the

533
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<v Speaker 1>Governor's budget submitted to the House there was money for

534
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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals and the House because of the increase in

535
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<v Speaker 1>the so called syntaxes. The House took out the syntaxes.

536
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<v Speaker 1>They're not in the business of increasing taxes and took

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<v Speaker 1>out the Bengals deal. Matt Hoffman was with you and

538
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<v Speaker 1>I about a week ago in which he said we're

539
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<v Speaker 1>not going to put money into a deal unless the

540
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<v Speaker 1>taxpayer breaks even. And based upon that more discussions are

541
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<v Speaker 1>being held. And I guess then each tree House's point

542
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<v Speaker 1>is this that the Bengals deal was is fresh money,

543
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<v Speaker 1>but don't hold out against Hambleton County. Be goes twenty

544
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<v Speaker 1>five years ago this would have been a fresh deal.

545
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<v Speaker 1>Now this stadium needs to be upgraded. This is one

546
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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty four million dollars one of four phases.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the first phase, NFL and the Bengals are

548
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<v Speaker 1>putting up one hundred and twenty million and the county

549
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<v Speaker 1>is putting up sixty four that's about two thirds on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals and one third in the county. Is that

551
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<v Speaker 1>good news? Many people think so. And the Bengals and

552
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<v Speaker 1>the NFL and the Hamley County and the city wants

553
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<v Speaker 1>the state lawmakers to treat the Bengals in the city

554
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<v Speaker 1>in an equitable and fair fashion compared to the compared

555
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<v Speaker 1>to the Browns and Jimmy Haslam. And you know, up

556
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<v Speaker 1>to this point, we've not had much sway over Columbus

557
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<v Speaker 1>because they don't think Cincinnati is part of the state

558
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<v Speaker 1>almost And now it's just like Covington doesn't act as

559
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<v Speaker 1>if Frankfurt thinks they're part of Kentucky. But will continue.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a positive. So much negativity running around this

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<v Speaker 1>is a positive. Ill Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham

562
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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW by Billy Cunningham, The Great America, And

563
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<v Speaker 1>we have coming up in about ten min John Zinzer,

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<v Speaker 1>he is with the group opposing this massive development on

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<v Speaker 1>Hyde Park Square. I think all of us. I spend

566
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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit of time in hyde Park Square and

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<v Speaker 1>also in Mount lookout at Zips and Greaters, etc. Sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the park. It's kind of wonderful. I think Hyde

569
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<v Speaker 1>Park is the jewel of the city of Cincinnati. And

570
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<v Speaker 1>the developers come up with a concept which would be

571
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<v Speaker 1>against the law unless council changes the law of a

572
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<v Speaker 1>ninety room boutique hotel, one hundred and twenty unit apartment building,

573
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<v Speaker 1>mix of retail and restaurant spaces, and also an underground

574
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<v Speaker 1>parking garage of two to three hundred cars underground, and

575
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<v Speaker 1>the Hyde Park Neighborhood councils unanimously against it, along with

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<v Speaker 1>many other community councils representing about eighty thousand voters. I

577
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<v Speaker 1>think the train is on the track. It might be

578
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<v Speaker 1>too late, but this afternoon's starting about one o'clock. It

579
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<v Speaker 1>was about three minutes from now. City Council is going

580
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<v Speaker 1>to take it up through a committee called the Equitable

581
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<v Speaker 1>Growth and Housing Committee, of which which all the members

582
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<v Speaker 1>of council are a member of this under committee So

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<v Speaker 1>if they all vote yes this afternoon, yes, that means

584
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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow when they vote on the final deal, it'll be

585
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:13.519
<v Speaker 1>a done deal. Honestly, the development is maybe required, but

586
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<v Speaker 1>it's way too large, way too big, completely out of whack.

587
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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it calls for a ninety nine story tall

588
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<v Speaker 1>building ninety foot tall building right now, Zonian calls for

589
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>about a fifty six tall building, which is five levels,

590
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>five stories. That this would throw shade all over Hyde

591
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<v Speaker 1>Park Square, change the character forever. The residents are against it,

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<v Speaker 1>Correct me if I'm wrong, But I thought the purpose

593
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<v Speaker 1>of elective representatives is to reflect the will of the

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<v Speaker 1>American people they represent. Am I right or wrong about that?

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<v Speaker 1>And this thing would go down eighty to twenty if

596
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<v Speaker 1>it was put to a vote. But because of the

597
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>city council we have, they may proceed. We'll find out

598
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<v Speaker 1>in two or three hours plus tomorrow. Plus I want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank again Denise Treehouse for coming on talking about

600
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<v Speaker 1>the the supposed Bengals deal. Bengals are going to play

601
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<v Speaker 1>pay about two thirds of the stop gap at pay

602
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<v Speaker 1>Corps and the county about one third is of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is all contingent on signing a long term lease, which

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be done by June thirtieth of this year,

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<v Speaker 1>what about nine weeks away, And if that's signed, then

606
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<v Speaker 1>this deal jumps in and they begin upgrading the whole facility.

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<v Speaker 1>But that also is contingent on the state of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>That is Matt Huffman, and that is all the representative

609
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<v Speaker 1>Senator Bill Blessing and others doing their part, which Denise

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<v Speaker 1>Tree House wants to be about one third. So they

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<v Speaker 1>still need about three hundred million dollars from the state.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you listen to Matt Huffman, the Speaker of

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<v Speaker 1>the House I had on last week, it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like that money is coming. But he said that if

615
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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, the Bengals, and the county strike a deal,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in writing. Let us know what you want us

617
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<v Speaker 1>to put in, we'll take it up. So Hope Springs Eternal.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next is John Zinzer with the Hyde Park

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<v Speaker 1>Group that's opposing this huge development and it's being taken

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<v Speaker 1>up in about ten seconds on City Council one o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>Home of Your reds add at about five forty tonight

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<v Speaker 1>A news radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati. Jill coming into

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<v Speaker 1>Great America once again, Reds Baseball kicks off about five

624
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<v Speaker 1>forty to night. First pitch about six forty. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in Miami, but big doings continuing this afternoon

626
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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati. Headline in the inquiry Hyde Park Square development

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<v Speaker 1>set for key vote today sometime by the guess is

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<v Speaker 1>by three or four o'clock. And it's a key vote

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<v Speaker 1>because the nine members of this particular Equitable Growth and

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<v Speaker 1>Housing Committee are of course the same nine members on

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<v Speaker 1>city Council. So after they vote to greenlight this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I would anticipate the vote which stay the same. Johan,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I now is John Zenzer. He's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the organizers of Save Hyde Park Square. And John Zenzer,

635
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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, John,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell the American people this Tuesday afternoon exactly

637
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.359
<v Speaker 1>what's happening later this afternoon and what it means for

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00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Hyde Park Square. Just give the American people an overview.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first thing is to say thanks to you for

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00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:25.359
<v Speaker 3>the opportunity. I'm really glad to be speaking with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what's happening this afternoon. The Equitoble Growth and Housing

642
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<v Speaker 3>Committee will hear this ordinance it's the only thing on

643
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:35.960
<v Speaker 3>the docket for them. There's nothing else that's going to happen,

644
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 3>and this ordinance is offering a planned development variance to

645
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 3>a local developer who wants to drop a building the

646
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 3>size of the container ship onto the south side of

647
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Hyde Park. They've Hyde Park Square and lots of other

648
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 3>people do not want this to happen. There are more

649
00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 3>than fourteen of their neighborhood groups and four civic organizations

650
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.359
<v Speaker 3>who have written to the city officially having taken votes

651
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:08.279
<v Speaker 3>and said please do not do this, And yet it

652
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 3>seems the city's going to press ahead. The last piece

653
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 3>that needs to come across is Dave Hyde Park Square,

654
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.359
<v Speaker 3>the Hyde Park Neighborhood Council. No one is opposed to

655
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:21.599
<v Speaker 3>growth and development. Everybody's opposed to this development.

656
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<v Speaker 1>So to be specific, that this large container ship is

657
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<v Speaker 1>going to have a ninety room boutique hotel one hundred

658
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 1>and twenty unit against his owning, which is by illegal

659
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:35.039
<v Speaker 1>unless they change the zoning, which is today might happen

660
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>a ninety room boutique hotel, one hundred and twenty unit

661
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>apartment building, a mix of retail and restaurants, plus a

662
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.119
<v Speaker 1>large parking garage. Where's the parking garage going to go.

663
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Underground in a place that used to be a lake.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't strike me as a great idea.

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00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>How many how many? How many people have been parking

666
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 1>in this large underground garage?

667
00:33:57.920 --> 00:33:58.720
<v Speaker 4>Well they're talking.

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<v Speaker 3>See this is one of the really key elements Bill.

669
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<v Speaker 3>We actually don't know the way the rules work now

670
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.119
<v Speaker 3>for planned developments in this variance, they only have to

671
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.280
<v Speaker 3>provide a concept. So we actually you said one hundred

672
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.679
<v Speaker 3>and twenty rooms, maybe might be one hundred and fifty,

673
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:18.599
<v Speaker 3>might be ninety. The hotel could be ninety rooms could

674
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.960
<v Speaker 3>be bigger if they get the plan development. The fact

675
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 3>of the matter is almost anything can happen without any

676
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:28.320
<v Speaker 3>more public engagement or content.

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<v Speaker 1>When I drive around Hyde Park, which I do quite often,

678
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I love going to Zips and driving over to Greaters

679
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:37.079
<v Speaker 1>look around. It's beautiful. I think it's the crown jewel

680
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of the city of Cincinnati, and the city council wants

681
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to change it. They say it's going to revive foot traffic,

682
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:47.280
<v Speaker 1>business activity, much needed housing falls in line with the

683
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>goals of the city. The housing I anticipate is going

684
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 1>to be extremely expensive. If you look for upscale apartments anymore.

685
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.159
<v Speaker 1>There's three to five thousand dollars a month. So how

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00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.119
<v Speaker 1>many more do you have an idea? How many thousands

687
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>new people are going to come to hyde Park Square

688
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.440
<v Speaker 1>in order to shop and eat? Is that faired out yet?

689
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>How many thousands of people are going to come every

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00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>day to Hyde Park Square?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's certainly clear that the developer says that, But

692
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:17.760
<v Speaker 3>the fact of the matter is that's really not clear whatsoever.

693
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:20.119
<v Speaker 3>The truth of the matter is, we don't even know

694
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.159
<v Speaker 3>what the rents are going to be there. If you

695
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:25.159
<v Speaker 3>take the rent from their closest other building, which is

696
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.960
<v Speaker 3>just less than a mile away, those rents start at

697
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:32.920
<v Speaker 3>three eight hundred dollars a month. Now, why would anybody

698
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:36.000
<v Speaker 3>come to Hyde Park Square. It's exactly the.

699
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Reasons you say.

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00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.559
<v Speaker 3>The local businesses that have been there for decades, The

701
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:43.880
<v Speaker 3>small local businesses on hyde Park Square have been there

702
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:47.159
<v Speaker 3>much longer than the national average. And people keep saying

703
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 3>things like, but look, there's all these empty storefronts. All

704
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:54.559
<v Speaker 3>those empty storefronts are in the building the developer has

705
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:59.039
<v Speaker 3>bought and one by one, while maintaining the letter of

706
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 3>the law of the least is they have moved people out.

707
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.280
<v Speaker 3>They are currently engaged in a lawsuit with one local

708
00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 3>business who's fighting them over being evicted effectively from their property.

709
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Why people come to Hyde Park Square, just as you said,

710
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:17.119
<v Speaker 3>is for the experience, the quality, the liveability, the way

711
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:19.800
<v Speaker 3>it feels. There are so many people I've talked to

712
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.639
<v Speaker 3>with stories about getting ice cream at that Greater's so

713
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 3>many people who remember going to the movie theater, all

714
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 3>kinds of things like that. It used to be, you know,

715
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:33.960
<v Speaker 3>when you were a boy bill that park. You could

716
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.639
<v Speaker 3>live without a car on that square. There were groceries,

717
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:41.840
<v Speaker 3>there were pharmacies. That's not the case anymore. Everything has

718
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:44.559
<v Speaker 3>been moved over to the malls, et cetera. A hide

719
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.639
<v Speaker 3>park has managed to survive because of the specialness of

720
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:52.400
<v Speaker 3>its feel. If this PD goes through, that feel is over.

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00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.760
<v Speaker 1>And the other issues. These empty businesses are a self

722
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:59.800
<v Speaker 1>fulfilling prophecy. When the developer evects small businesses then go

723
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.559
<v Speaker 1>to city council and said, take a look, the population

724
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 1>of Hyde Park Square is going down. It's a that's

725
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.079
<v Speaker 1>it's true, which is not true. And then also they're saying, well,

726
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>after all there's empty businesses that their eviction coused and

727
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.800
<v Speaker 1>so talk about the population of Hyde Park. I think

728
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 1>it's in pretty good shape. I love that little park

729
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>in the middle. So empty businesses. You've addressed what about

730
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.199
<v Speaker 1>population going down in Hyde Park and City Council's got

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00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:24.079
<v Speaker 1>to step into help.

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00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:27.760
<v Speaker 3>That is exactly the key piece there, and we'll come

733
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 3>back to that in just a second. While city population

734
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 3>going into the two twenty twenty was dropping by about

735
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:38.400
<v Speaker 3>six percent, Hyde Park population actually went up by more

736
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:41.599
<v Speaker 3>than four percent. When the developer presented look at the

737
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 3>number of businesses, they undercounted by almost half. We did

738
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.119
<v Speaker 3>a separate study to see how many businesses there were.

739
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:51.480
<v Speaker 3>We came up with approximately one hundred and fifty in

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00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:54.679
<v Speaker 3>the area. They talked about there being maybe ninety something

741
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:58.440
<v Speaker 3>less than that. It's really problematic in that regard small

742
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:03.920
<v Speaker 3>businesses have succeeded. The Hyde Park Business Association, the collection

743
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.360
<v Speaker 3>of those small businesses, is one of the civic organizations

744
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.639
<v Speaker 3>who opposes this. You would think if it was good

745
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.599
<v Speaker 3>for business, they would be for it. It's not good

746
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:17.880
<v Speaker 3>for business, and you're exactly right. The check and balance

747
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:21.920
<v Speaker 3>to this is what's been lost. City council has lost

748
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:28.880
<v Speaker 3>sight of the neighborhood inputs, the neighborhood councils, the local associations.

749
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:29.639
<v Speaker 4>Those are the.

750
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:33.559
<v Speaker 3>Groups of people who actually voted for them. What they've

751
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:37.079
<v Speaker 3>not lost sight of the bank accounts of the developers,

752
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:41.440
<v Speaker 3>the impact that that has on their reelectability, etc. Is

753
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 3>something that's going to be put clearly on the table

754
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 3>during this vote.

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00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, one thing, I found it incredible to think

756
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:49.320
<v Speaker 1>that there's going to be an underground parking garage in

757
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Hyde Park under a small lake, and you don't know

758
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:53.440
<v Speaker 1>if it's going to be fifty It has to be

759
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>several hundred spots of underground parking, and most people today

760
00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to go to underground parking for any reason

761
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.239
<v Speaker 1>at all. But unless that is something that's not determined

762
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:04.199
<v Speaker 1>yet correct this afternoon, it's still not known.

763
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:07.519
<v Speaker 3>That's absolutely And see, this is the thing. City council

764
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:11.920
<v Speaker 3>is actually not voting on two hundred and fifty parking spots,

765
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.480
<v Speaker 3>three hundred and fifty parking spots. They're not voting on

766
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:19.679
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and twenty apartments, ninety hotel rooms. They're voting

767
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.000
<v Speaker 3>on what kind of city we want to live in.

768
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 3>That parking structure is going to run into all kinds

769
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:30.559
<v Speaker 3>of complex problems of construction that are way past my abilities.

770
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 3>But I have been told over and over again structural engineers, architects,

771
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.599
<v Speaker 3>others who have looked at it. You're talking about building

772
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:42.519
<v Speaker 3>an underground facility in a place that regularly floods when

773
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:43.960
<v Speaker 3>we have a good bit of rain.

774
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no question. Now I can see Hyde Park and

775
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.519
<v Speaker 1>also Zips has been underwater at times because of a

776
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.320
<v Speaker 1>lack of sewerge, a lack of clean water. But leaving

777
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:55.760
<v Speaker 1>their vacation, I can only imagine if you drop two

778
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:58.559
<v Speaker 1>or three hundred underground parking what that's going to look like.

779
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:01.639
<v Speaker 1>What is Hyde Park a neighbor council and these other councils.

780
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:03.800
<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of times you like politicians to

781
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:07.159
<v Speaker 1>answer to the constituents who put them there and actually

782
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:10.559
<v Speaker 1>affected by the decisions of council. Those are two important considerations.

783
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.599
<v Speaker 1>What does Hyde Park Neighborhood Council say in those neighboring

784
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.119
<v Speaker 1>and I would have think those most effect it would

785
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:17.559
<v Speaker 1>be in favor of it. If it was good for

786
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:19.679
<v Speaker 1>Hyde Park, those who lived there would say we want this.

787
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:23.440
<v Speaker 6>That's not the case. What did Hyde Park Neighborhood Council

788
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:24.400
<v Speaker 6>do with this proposal.

789
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<v Speaker 3>And I should be clear I don't speak for Hyde

790
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:30.159
<v Speaker 3>Park Neighborhood Council. I'm a citizen working with say Hyde

791
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Park Square. But the Hyde Park Neighborhood Council has written

792
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:37.880
<v Speaker 3>a very clear statement that they voted on unanimously saying, please,

793
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:42.119
<v Speaker 3>City Council, don't pass this ordinance, don't let this variants

794
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:44.719
<v Speaker 3>go through. So did Mount Lookout You mentioned one of

795
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 3>the neighbors, But you know what this coalition of the

796
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:51.440
<v Speaker 3>neighborhoods is from east to west the entire city. You

797
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:55.119
<v Speaker 3>go from out in the east with Mount Washington all

798
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:57.280
<v Speaker 3>the way over to the west with Sailor Park.

799
00:40:58.119 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 1>This is a city wide issue.

800
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<v Speaker 3>This isn't a Hyde Park issue, and this could set

801
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.960
<v Speaker 3>a precedent where lots of other neighborhoods would be impacted.

802
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:12.320
<v Speaker 3>And this coalition is not coming apart after this particular issue.

803
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:15.519
<v Speaker 3>This coalition is going to grow and it's going to continue.

804
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.400
<v Speaker 3>And that's part of what we're saying to city council today.

805
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:22.119
<v Speaker 3>You are going to have to answer for this vote,

806
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:24.239
<v Speaker 3>and we are not going to let you start this

807
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:28.480
<v Speaker 3>as a president for future actions in other neighborhoods. Most

808
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.199
<v Speaker 3>of the neighborhoods who signed on with us have all

809
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:36.760
<v Speaker 3>had problems with this same developer. We have a story

810
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:41.199
<v Speaker 3>after story, both by individuals and by neighborhood councils up

811
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:43.599
<v Speaker 3>we asked for X, they said they were going to

812
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.920
<v Speaker 3>do X, and then they did why and they rise

813
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 3>that because once they get the planned development variance, there

814
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:55.320
<v Speaker 3>is nothing that the local communities can do to change things.

815
00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.000
<v Speaker 3>There's almost no opportunity for input once the planned developed

816
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 3>is in place. So our big call to city council is,

817
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:07.719
<v Speaker 3>you've just voted on a new set of laws last June,

818
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:10.880
<v Speaker 3>and now you're going to basically crumple that up and

819
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.840
<v Speaker 3>throw it over your shoulder and say the developer gets

820
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 3>to do what they want, regardless of what the connected

821
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.719
<v Speaker 3>community say, regardless of what the local zoning says, regardless

822
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 3>of the UDOD which will be applied to this. But

823
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:29.400
<v Speaker 3>it leaves us almost no leverage in conversation with the

824
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.559
<v Speaker 3>developer if city council votes for this PD.

825
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:36.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, John Zinzer, I know politicians fairly well. They're banking

826
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>on the fact that in six or seven months when

827
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<v Speaker 1>they stand for re election or election, you and others

828
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.320
<v Speaker 1>are going to ignore the comments in April that you're

829
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:47.039
<v Speaker 1>going to have short term memory loss and not show

830
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:50.400
<v Speaker 1>up to vote them out of office. Because if politicians thought, Okay,

831
00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 1>we're going to lose our gig, we're going to lose

832
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.880
<v Speaker 1>our job by doing this against the residents, guess what,

833
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:56.880
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't do it. But they're counting on short term

834
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>memory loss. But more importantly, I see this shade issue

835
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of this large structure. Explain that to the American people.

836
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.039
<v Speaker 3>Two points regarding the politicians will come back there. The

837
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<v Speaker 3>shade is an issue. You're talking about a building. They

838
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 3>could go as high as ninety three feet. The zoning

839
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:19.079
<v Speaker 3>restriction in Hyde Park is fifty feet. That's more than

840
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.559
<v Speaker 3>seventy percent taller than everything else that it's allowed to

841
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.840
<v Speaker 3>be there. It will cast a shadow, and they say, oh,

842
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:28.559
<v Speaker 3>but we're going to do setbacks. It won't be that noticeable.

843
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the impact of the shade will be,

844
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:33.159
<v Speaker 3>but I'll tell you that if you're standing on Hyde

845
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:37.800
<v Speaker 3>Park Square today, this beautiful sunny Cincinnati spring day, and

846
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 3>you're standing there, once this container ship is dropped in place,

847
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:45.360
<v Speaker 3>it's going to feel completely different. Whether you're standing in

848
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:47.920
<v Speaker 3>the sun or you're standing in the shade. To your

849
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:51.039
<v Speaker 3>other point about the politicians, I'll make you the promise

850
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:56.159
<v Speaker 3>right now. We're not going away. We will not forget.

851
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:59.920
<v Speaker 3>There's probably three pathways that come out of this. Should

852
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 3>city Council vote the wrong way and approve the PD One,

853
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:06.960
<v Speaker 3>there is almost certainly going to be a lawsuit because

854
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:09.760
<v Speaker 3>there's been a lot of questions about how the zoning

855
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:13.639
<v Speaker 3>process itself was handled. Two, there may well be a

856
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:18.199
<v Speaker 3>citywide referendum run Butt's Three. I can almost guarantee you

857
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 3>a political action committee will be formed around this, and

858
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:27.440
<v Speaker 3>the bottom three four five city council members are easily

859
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:31.840
<v Speaker 3>replaceable with the size and strength of the community that

860
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:35.119
<v Speaker 3>we have put into contact. And they've already been told this.

861
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.840
<v Speaker 3>They're going to hear it again today in the committee meeting,

862
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:40.400
<v Speaker 3>and I will come back on your show anytime and

863
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:42.960
<v Speaker 3>tell you how that group is doing and what they're

864
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:44.880
<v Speaker 3>getting done and what's going to happen.

865
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I can imagine the two to four year building process

866
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>is going to make residents of Hyde Parks Wqua are

867
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 1>miserable for the next two to four years. I can

868
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:56.079
<v Speaker 1>imagine building nine and ten story tall buildings underground parking garages,

869
00:44:56.679 --> 00:44:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Leveling parts of Hyde Park Square is going to have

870
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.800
<v Speaker 1>a tremendous impact for the next two to four years.

871
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:03.360
<v Speaker 1>And as you said, on.

872
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:06.760
<v Speaker 3>The citizens absolutely and on the small businesses both, and

873
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:09.239
<v Speaker 3>we've asked over and over again for them to provide

874
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.960
<v Speaker 3>something called a maintenance of transportation report, which is what's

875
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:16.360
<v Speaker 3>going to happen while you're doing construction. Last year, parts

876
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.719
<v Speaker 3>of this area just got some new roadway refinishing that

877
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 3>killed business for a number of small businesses. It ruined

878
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:26.599
<v Speaker 3>quality of life. People were sitting and putting in traffic

879
00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:29.800
<v Speaker 3>jams in Hyde Park, a place that doesn't have really

880
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:33.119
<v Speaker 3>that kind of traffic. It doesn't have that kind of flow.

881
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:35.760
<v Speaker 3>We already have a pretty major issue right at Hyde

882
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Park School, right at the corner of Edwards An Observatory,

883
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:44.679
<v Speaker 3>and this is a great concern. One of the competing

884
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:48.159
<v Speaker 3>news organizations totally got the story wrong in saying, oh,

885
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:51.400
<v Speaker 3>the development is two tenths of a mile away. That's untrue.

886
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:56.159
<v Speaker 3>The development's major entrance and exits are going to be

887
00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:00.480
<v Speaker 3>literally facing Hyde Park School and facing Knox To which

888
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:04.159
<v Speaker 3>has a preschool. So you're talking about having construction equipment

889
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:08.960
<v Speaker 3>rolling through areas where children walk to school every day.

890
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:13.280
<v Speaker 3>They're talking about changing the traffic pattern. You're talking about

891
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:16.920
<v Speaker 3>taking away on street parking, which creates the buffer between

892
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:21.320
<v Speaker 3>these children walking to school and moving vehicles. The sixth

893
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:24.239
<v Speaker 3>graders don't stand up well against moving cars.

894
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:27.079
<v Speaker 1>John Zinzer, will see what happens later today or tomorrow.

895
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:29.679
<v Speaker 1>According to the news media accounts, there's going to be

896
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:33.239
<v Speaker 1>a vote today and then before council tomorrow. And you're saying,

897
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:36.280
<v Speaker 1>if you lose today or tomorrow maybe about three or

898
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.559
<v Speaker 1>four o'clock, or lose tomorrow, this will not be the end. Lawsuits,

899
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:42.199
<v Speaker 1>referendums a pack, and they're counting on you to have

900
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>short term memory loss that they ram this thing through.

901
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I would anticipate the developer will quickly put a shovel

902
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:49.960
<v Speaker 1>in the ground to start the project, and I would

903
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.960
<v Speaker 1>anticipate that the citizens to whom this effects will not

904
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:55.360
<v Speaker 1>forget in six months what was done to them and

905
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.639
<v Speaker 1>not for them. Basically, we're all in favor of development,

906
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.000
<v Speaker 1>but this thing is just two damn and it needs

907
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:04.079
<v Speaker 1>to be stopped. John Zinzer. We'll open up the lines

908
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.559
<v Speaker 1>of communication more as this event goes. Hopefully they'll be

909
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:07.119
<v Speaker 1>killed today.

910
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.159
<v Speaker 6>If not We'll continue to talk in the days and

911
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 6>week said and John Zinzer, thanks for coming on the

912
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:12.440
<v Speaker 6>Bill Cunningham Show.

913
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.199
<v Speaker 1>And you're a great American. Thank you, John, my pleasure,

914
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:18.519
<v Speaker 1>thank you, God bless you. Let's continue with more counsels

915
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:21.000
<v Speaker 1>how to be reflective of the citizens when they pass laws,

916
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.599
<v Speaker 1>rules and regulations that affect them. And when you have

917
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 1>a committee called equitable growth and how equitable growth in

918
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:29.920
<v Speaker 1>housing when the rents are between four and six thousand

919
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>dollars a month. I don't know how equitable that is.

920
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:35.599
<v Speaker 1>Let's continue with more news coming up at your room

921
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:37.960
<v Speaker 1>of the Red starting about five forty tonight on news

922
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Radio seven hundred WLW.

923
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't trying to irritate people.

924
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:47.360
<v Speaker 7>But it it's just I never know what's coming out.

925
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've said anything controversial today. Oh hello, quiet,

926
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm SCO. I'm broadcasting all right, segment. We have

927
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>a new deal with pay Course Stadium. Your comments and

928
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:07.679
<v Speaker 1>how about that Willie? I think Sheldon Braun and we're

929
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 1>doing all the HVAC work down there is busy.

930
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:12.880
<v Speaker 6>I mean they got it done, you got it done.

931
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:14.719
<v Speaker 6>I mean, what's next? Ukraine?

932
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:18.440
<v Speaker 1>And now hold Offsha in peace. Hold on right there. Oh,

933
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:22.079
<v Speaker 1>this is contingent, you know, but hold up on that

934
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:26.519
<v Speaker 1>car wise gentlemen on the state of Ohio right coming

935
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.800
<v Speaker 1>in and supplying about three hundred million dollars. So now

936
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 1>the pickleball is in the state's court. And because your

937
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:35.119
<v Speaker 1>friend Matt Hoffman, the Speaker of the House, said we

938
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.599
<v Speaker 1>want a deal. Deal, now the deal is getting closer. Segment,

939
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:40.159
<v Speaker 1>get us into the Stooge report.

940
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:43.239
<v Speaker 6>Please will he the Stuoge reporters approp service over local

941
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.760
<v Speaker 6>tep Star heating and air conditioning.

942
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Dealers tamestar quality you.

943
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.360
<v Speaker 6>Could feel in Cincinnati called Sheldon Braun at Bron Heating

944
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:56.239
<v Speaker 6>at five one, three, three eight, five seventy seven six.

945
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:59.760
<v Speaker 6>We got Sheldon Bron. Where is Sheldon Braun? Where's your dad?

946
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Is a doctor?

947
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

948
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:05.280
<v Speaker 1>He's in a doctor. We need some HVAC work done

949
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.920
<v Speaker 1>right here in the building. Is that correct? You sure do?

950
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Get him involved? Amen to that segment. Give me some

951
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:12.760
<v Speaker 1>sports and make it quick. Let's see.

952
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.039
<v Speaker 6>Well ye Also, we want to thank Lear's Prime Market,

953
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.000
<v Speaker 6>uh for our lunch today.

954
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:19.519
<v Speaker 1>One of the lunches. I had three of them. That's

955
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:21.159
<v Speaker 1>why that's why you look the way you look.

956
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:26.199
<v Speaker 6>At Finest meets Trust Lears Prime Market located in beautiful

957
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:29.840
<v Speaker 6>downtown Milford, Milford Lears Prime dot Com. Home of the

958
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:32.320
<v Speaker 6>Eagles in don Henley right there at Hamilton County and

959
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.480
<v Speaker 6>the Bengals here we go. Reached an agreement with Andy

960
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:38.239
<v Speaker 6>Buker to reach an agreement.

961
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:41.159
<v Speaker 1>They've reached an agreement to reach an agreement like that.

962
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:43.079
<v Speaker 6>So they're going to make one hundred and eighty four

963
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:46.159
<v Speaker 6>million dollars in improvements to pay course stadium next year

964
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:49.679
<v Speaker 6>how much and one hundred and eighty four mill and

965
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:53.800
<v Speaker 6>reach a long term agreement by June thirtieth of this year.

966
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I had on your friend Denise three Houses says she's

967
00:49:56.519 --> 00:50:00.840
<v Speaker 1>cautiously optimistic. When the state jumps in with an extra

968
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:02.880
<v Speaker 1>three hundred million over the next five.

969
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:04.960
<v Speaker 6>Years, the team would pay one hundred and twenty mil

970
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.039
<v Speaker 6>the county sixty four US.

971
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:10.559
<v Speaker 1>The other way around it. No, it's ninety five percent

972
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:13.199
<v Speaker 1>for the county and five percent for the Bengals. This

973
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:16.079
<v Speaker 1>one's two thirds to the Bengals, one third for the county.

974
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:19.079
<v Speaker 6>Under the deal deal, the Bengals would renovate club lounges

975
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:23.079
<v Speaker 6>and suites. Of course, we never get invited there improved concessions.

976
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:26.920
<v Speaker 6>Sheldon Brown invited me the county would put in new escalators,

977
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:32.880
<v Speaker 6>refurbish the elevators, elevators, and upgrade the power grid another technology.

978
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:34.960
<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? You have any idea? I guess

979
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:37.920
<v Speaker 1>wi fi. Go ahead. Let's see.

980
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:42.239
<v Speaker 6>So the Bengals have until June thirtieth's that's the date

981
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.800
<v Speaker 6>one Riverfront Stadium open in nineteen seventy. I was there

982
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:49.039
<v Speaker 6>segment to decide whether the team will extend its current

983
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:50.679
<v Speaker 6>lease another two years.

984
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>That would be a negative.

985
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:56.159
<v Speaker 6>The current lease expires June thirtieth of twenty twenty six.

986
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:59.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, the Bengals and the county agree that if they

987
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:03.400
<v Speaker 1>don't extend the lease, then the old lace continues. That's

988
00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:07.239
<v Speaker 1>a negative. Would you agree? Yes? Please continue? Let's see.

989
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:10.199
<v Speaker 1>Will he have more transactions for the Reds today? What

990
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:10.639
<v Speaker 1>is it?

991
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:14.920
<v Speaker 6>Rehab assignments for Triple A Louisville left hand or Sam

992
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:19.000
<v Speaker 6>Mall who's hurt. He had a left shoulder impingement, shoulder

993
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:22.039
<v Speaker 6>and pinchment. And catcher Tyler Stevenson is on his way

994
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.559
<v Speaker 6>back here. Of course, he's had that oblique injury since

995
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:28.000
<v Speaker 6>spring training. So now they're going to rehab at Louisville,

996
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.480
<v Speaker 6>and they're one step back from being into the lineup.

997
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess that had six hits. What about that guy?

998
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:36.000
<v Speaker 1>They're going to keep him?

999
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:36.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay?

1000
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Good?

1001
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:39.880
<v Speaker 6>Max Meyer last night was dealing for Miami. A career

1002
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:44.119
<v Speaker 6>high fourteen k's and six scoreless innings of the Marlins

1003
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:45.239
<v Speaker 6>beat the Red six to three.

1004
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get this traight. He pits six innings and

1005
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:52.360
<v Speaker 1>at fourteen strike yeap. That means of the possible eighteen,

1006
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>he struck out fourteen. Is that fair?

1007
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:54.800
<v Speaker 4>Right?

1008
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:58.480
<v Speaker 6>And they that was the day before the Red score

1009
00:51:58.519 --> 00:51:59.960
<v Speaker 6>twenty four runs and twenty five.

1010
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:04.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, they retired, they retired, they retired. They admitted they

1011
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:07.360
<v Speaker 1>toured twenty four runs and no run day the eighth

1012
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:11.360
<v Speaker 1>correct got three irrelevant runs. Yes, they wanted, you know,

1013
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:14.159
<v Speaker 1>kick wanted to make it close.

1014
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:18.679
<v Speaker 6>Let's see game two tonight, Edward Cabrera up against Nick Martinez,

1015
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.639
<v Speaker 6>five forty Sports Talk, Rnell Carriers, Inside Pitch and then

1016
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:27.480
<v Speaker 6>the Kelsey Chevrolet Extra Inning Show after the game. Let's

1017
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:33.960
<v Speaker 6>see also high school softball Willie Lebanon's Sophia Shielder. There

1018
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:38.239
<v Speaker 6>was a perfect game with sixteen strikeouts. Warriors feed West

1019
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:43.400
<v Speaker 6>Claremont six nothing. Kings defeated Little Miami seven nothing against

1020
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:49.639
<v Speaker 6>the Canoes. King's softball coach John shawt Shawblean his two

1021
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:55.159
<v Speaker 6>hundredth career wine congratulation there. The NFL Draft, the National

1022
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:58.840
<v Speaker 6>Football League Draft begins its three day run Thursday night

1023
00:52:58.880 --> 00:52:59.639
<v Speaker 6>in Green Bay.

1024
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Spot by Temp Star and Sheldon Brown.

1025
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:06.079
<v Speaker 6>The Best Bengals coverage starts Thursday night and six seven

1026
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:10.679
<v Speaker 6>undred WLW Stone statements. NFL Drafts Spectacular, Live from the

1027
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:14.760
<v Speaker 6>Holy Grail. Everybody will be there, Lance Tony Pike, what

1028
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:16.920
<v Speaker 6>about James Reen, Rocky gonna show up?

1029
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I still belieze. I think Chack chasing down further?

1030
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:23.480
<v Speaker 6>Lance snakes, Uh, good luck to it.

1031
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Luck with that.

1032
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:27.679
<v Speaker 6>It's presented by Orthos since the Orthopedics and Sports Medicine

1033
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.599
<v Speaker 6>and Emerald Federal Emory Federal Credit Union.

1034
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Easy for you to say.

1035
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:35.159
<v Speaker 6>Let's see back to on the NFL. The Cleveland Browns

1036
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:38.320
<v Speaker 6>and New York Giants. Here we go are getting calls

1037
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:43.239
<v Speaker 6>about their picks or Thursday. The Browns have the second

1038
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.639
<v Speaker 6>overall pick, the Giants number three.

1039
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:48.199
<v Speaker 1>The Browns in and out of the quarterback they have

1040
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:53.559
<v Speaker 1>had no success. Well, they got Joe, they got Joe Fla. Yeah, Tennessee.

1041
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:57.000
<v Speaker 6>Is Shawn Watson not entertaining offers for the pick number one?

1042
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:01.440
<v Speaker 1>He's getting massage right now. He's unavailable. Shawn Watson probably

1043
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:05.000
<v Speaker 1>so cost him. Sad news today.

1044
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:11.079
<v Speaker 6>Willy Cincinnati Bearcats freshman player football player Jeremiah Kelly and

1045
00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:13.800
<v Speaker 6>Early and Roll Lee, who went through spring practice with

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<v Speaker 6>a team, passed away unexpectedly yesterday afternoon at his residence.

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<v Speaker 6>No cause of death, eighteen years old, out of Avon, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>Not good oh Man. Hopefully find out what happened. His

1049
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:31.280
<v Speaker 1>family's got to be devastated, completely devastating. Amen, We'll see

1050
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:33.960
<v Speaker 1>what happens there. So your anticipatory that this is going

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00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:37.039
<v Speaker 1>to be the deal deal that Matt Hoffman, the Speaker

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00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:38.599
<v Speaker 1>of the House, will putting the money, Mike do wanna

1053
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:40.280
<v Speaker 1>put in the money, Mike Brown and putting the money,

1054
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Paul H. Brown and putting the money, Katy Blackburn will

1055
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.559
<v Speaker 1>putting the money, Troy Blackburn putting the money, and you

1056
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:47.239
<v Speaker 1>will put in the money. It's a taxpayer. Are you

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00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:48.119
<v Speaker 1>confident yes or no?

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00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.280
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I think they're going to get a deal done,

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00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.079
<v Speaker 6>a deal deal. Well, they got disagreement. I mean that's

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00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:56.880
<v Speaker 6>the first step. It's a deal. To make a deal,

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00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.320
<v Speaker 6>it's a deal. But I mean, at least at least

1062
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:00.920
<v Speaker 6>they got it. You know, they're not taking it to

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00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:03.639
<v Speaker 6>the you know, the the midnight deadline.

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00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:06.840
<v Speaker 1>How about the taxpayer weighing into the ease, three House says, no,

1065
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:10.320
<v Speaker 1>we've already done it once segment thirty years ago. Go

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00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:12.360
<v Speaker 1>take it to the tax pank. No, don't want to

1067
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:14.599
<v Speaker 1>do that. They're gonna give a billionaire how much money

1068
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.360
<v Speaker 1>out of my pocket? Did that once? And then you

1069
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:22.360
<v Speaker 1>also have the Reds, you have the Guardians, you got

1070
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:25.840
<v Speaker 1>minor league baseball, thither and fro blue jackets, Blue jackets,

1071
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:26.280
<v Speaker 1>they like.

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<v Speaker 6>Some money, money, money, money, I'm sure you well you

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00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:32.880
<v Speaker 6>see what probably won some Dayton, Ohio state they get

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00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:35.880
<v Speaker 6>most of the money, Toledo, Akron, all of them get money.

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00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Wittenberg, Middletown, Middle Tucky. Yeah, oh, I don't know. I

1076
00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:43.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, we're gonna see what's going on.

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<v Speaker 6>But at least they got at least they have come

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00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:48.400
<v Speaker 6>to an agreement. We got No, we got an agreement

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00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:51.320
<v Speaker 6>for an agreement. But I mean still it's like do

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00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:54.800
<v Speaker 6>the other agreements. It's a right step in the right direction.

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00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:56.960
<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are bringing up two thirds of this money

1082
00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:57.679
<v Speaker 1>on phase one.

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00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.440
<v Speaker 6>Now that so now they need this if they if

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00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:03.960
<v Speaker 6>the state's in, that's it, right.

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00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:06.159
<v Speaker 1>I sent Matt Huffman, the Speaker of the House, a

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00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:09.280
<v Speaker 1>note with the articles from here, and he sent back

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00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:15.400
<v Speaker 1>something that said, interesting is that a yes, listen to you.

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00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:19.280
<v Speaker 6>You could be like the middleman this whole deal, and

1089
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:20.679
<v Speaker 6>you're dealing with Republicans.

1090
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Republicans like a deal. Deal, Republicans like a deal. I'm

1091
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:27.840
<v Speaker 1>just saying what happens. And the difference is the Bengals

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00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:31.159
<v Speaker 1>went without the state's involvement directly on bonds thirty some

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00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:34.000
<v Speaker 1>years ago. They've already put the money in in a sense,

1094
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:36.880
<v Speaker 1>while the Cleveland Browns are building their three billion dollar

1095
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:39.920
<v Speaker 1>edifice in a farm field that has nothing in it.

1096
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:42.840
<v Speaker 1>So the argument to Matt Huffman that this is new

1097
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>money is kind of not a good one. Denise drie

1098
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:47.719
<v Speaker 1>House says, we've already put the money in. It's a taxpayer,

1099
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:50.880
<v Speaker 1>correct sales tax. We paid this already. We would like

1100
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:52.559
<v Speaker 1>a deal deal to give us our money back.

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00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make any sway with them? Absolutely not, No, no, no,

1103
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Mike Dwine too. He wants to tax sin like cigarettes. Juse, well,

1104
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:03.920
<v Speaker 1>he wants to get the deal. He wants to get

1105
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the money in so he can get good tickets, good

1106
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:08.320
<v Speaker 1>tickets he belongs to. He. I mean, they're gonna have

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00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:09.639
<v Speaker 1>a new governor what next year?

1108
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Right?

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00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Either A Yost? Or can you save a A Ramaswami?

1110
00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:13.599
<v Speaker 3>No?

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00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I like saying his name because I say it so well.

1112
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:18.599
<v Speaker 1>Of a Swammy or David Yost? He was here the

1113
00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:22.159
<v Speaker 1>other day? Does he stopped buying? Pretty cool guy, he's taller.

1114
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:25.760
<v Speaker 1>One thing happened has never happened before we had younger

1115
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:28.840
<v Speaker 1>ladies lined up. It happens to me every day. Get

1116
00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:32.320
<v Speaker 1>a picture. Of course, women came here from the offices

1117
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:35.599
<v Speaker 1>to get pictures with a A Rama Swam. Has that

1118
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:39.440
<v Speaker 1>ever happened with David Yoster, Mike Dwine or you? No

1119
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:44.119
<v Speaker 1>happens to you and him? And that's yay. We're hunks. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>We always say wanted by the ladies. But he's a

1121
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:50.360
<v Speaker 1>star when he in your own mind, that's the problem.

1122
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:52.960
<v Speaker 1>That's the truth. That's the problem. Tell my wife that

1123
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:56.159
<v Speaker 1>and I get no response at all, none, But she says,

1124
00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:58.679
<v Speaker 1>I look terrible. My hairstick. Well, I don't dress right,

1125
00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:02.599
<v Speaker 1>but well I can tell she's out of town because

1126
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:06.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking mess today. I got you got more colors

1127
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.159
<v Speaker 1>on in a ring? I like to be colorful.

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<v Speaker 6>And then also she said, I don't know when when

1129
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:12.960
<v Speaker 6>she leaves the trist and.

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<v Speaker 1>What Wendy's McDonald's, Montgomery and ribs, hit it graters and

1131
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:22.679
<v Speaker 1>and udf Well you got to go to Frishes right, Well,

1132
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:25.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that, Dolly and fishes, the big

1133
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:27.519
<v Speaker 1>boy and dog, but the fresh work out the deal.

1134
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:29.679
<v Speaker 1>I like to go to a real fishes well like

1135
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:31.480
<v Speaker 1>in Heartwell, it's a real fish. And then what do

1136
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.079
<v Speaker 1>you get? Give me a super big boy, get rid

1137
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:35.800
<v Speaker 1>of the bread in the middle, give me well done

1138
00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:38.199
<v Speaker 1>onion rings and a medium cherry coke and a piece

1139
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:40.960
<v Speaker 1>of hot fudge cake to go and make it quick.

1140
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:44.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not like Jack's. I'm gonna hurry. Yes, it sounds

1141
00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:49.079
<v Speaker 1>like Jackie, and make it quick. And so she's gone.

1142
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:50.800
<v Speaker 1>What you have for dinner? I said, I had some

1143
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:53.239
<v Speaker 1>bean soup and some crackers. Great. Really it was a

1144
00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:56.559
<v Speaker 1>super big boy and onion rings. She'll never know, and

1145
00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:58.800
<v Speaker 1>don't tell her segment. I won't say a thing all

1146
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:02.239
<v Speaker 1>right once again, Sheldon, good to have you here, Temp

1147
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:04.880
<v Speaker 1>star Quality. You can feel the main man is here,

1148
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:06.599
<v Speaker 1>and say get me out of the suage report coming

1149
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:10.000
<v Speaker 1>up next to John Lott about guns and shooting people

1150
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:14.239
<v Speaker 1>much like others is. He's calling from downtown. He sees

1151
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:14.800
<v Speaker 1>dead people.

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00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:19.599
<v Speaker 6>Willie and hounter of Temp Starr and Sheldon Braun and

1153
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:24.119
<v Speaker 6>Braun heating a great golfer, and happy birthday today the

1154
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:26.559
<v Speaker 6>Reds manager Terry Francona.

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00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Really, how old is henknown?

1156
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.559
<v Speaker 6>He's old and like seventy or something, at least he's old,

1157
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:34.480
<v Speaker 6>and happy Earth Day?

1158
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Today's today? What have you done for the earth? Still here?

1159
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm cutting my grass.

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<v Speaker 6>We leave you with the immortal words of the Stewod Report.

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<v Speaker 8>Our job every day is to try to kick somebody's ass.

1162
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:50.760
<v Speaker 8>I mean, that's why we're here. How about last night, Tito?

1163
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:55.199
<v Speaker 8>One might ask, just asking who's asked? Got lucky?

1164
00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:58.079
<v Speaker 1>It was Red's ass got kicked last night. It wasn't fish,

1165
00:59:58.360 --> 00:59:59.880
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't fish, but it was Red.

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01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:02.360
<v Speaker 6>Wait till tonight and then tomorrow afternoon. Then you go

1167
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:04.880
<v Speaker 6>to Colorado and roll. They have won three games.

1168
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Colorado has won three games of course, say Bob slid

1169
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:12.320
<v Speaker 1>before the games. Correct, once again, gentlemen, thank you, no

1170
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:17.239
<v Speaker 1>comment that is that? You know that's an unnamed hits

1171
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:19.199
<v Speaker 1>it hit that again from Red's official.

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<v Speaker 6>No comments, they're not saying anything. Nobody's talking to you

1173
01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:26.480
<v Speaker 6>from the Bengals or the Reds.

1174
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:30.159
<v Speaker 1>What's the problem or Xavier Xavier wins women's tennis team

1175
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:32.199
<v Speaker 1>or the golf team. Golf team. I like to play

1176
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:36.679
<v Speaker 1>those ladies in golf. See what happens. Invited to the

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01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:41.679
<v Speaker 1>friendly confines. Absolutely, let's continue with more on news radio

1178
01:00:41.719 --> 01:00:56.320
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW by Billy Cunningham. The Great Amaricon, of course,

1179
01:00:56.360 --> 01:00:58.679
<v Speaker 1>John Lott is called the guru of those who believe

1180
01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:01.800
<v Speaker 1>in the Second Amendment. Books out including More Guns, Less

1181
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Crime is a great treatise on why an armed citizenry

1182
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:07.760
<v Speaker 1>is certainly the best thing the law enforcement itself can have.

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01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:10.639
<v Speaker 1>And also he got many columns up, and one of

1184
01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:13.079
<v Speaker 1>the great ones he has up is what's going on

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01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:16.079
<v Speaker 1>now with the research that seemed to indicate that armed

1186
01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:21.800
<v Speaker 1>civilians stop active shooters more effectively than uniformed police who

1187
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:23.679
<v Speaker 1>likely are not going to be at the scene. And

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01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:25.960
<v Speaker 1>first of all, John Lott spent years in the Trump

1189
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Justice Department of the first term done a lot of

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01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:30.920
<v Speaker 1>research on the topping nose. He's forgotten more than most

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01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:33.559
<v Speaker 1>people know. And John Lott, Welcome again to the Bill

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01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Cunningham Show. And first of all, on the Thursday shooting

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01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:40.079
<v Speaker 1>at Florida State and the person identified as a shooter

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01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:45.000
<v Speaker 1>is a guy named Eichner, and I understand his name's

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01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Phoenix Eichner. His mother was a deputy sheriff. And one

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01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:51.239
<v Speaker 1>thing I would add that about two hours after the

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01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:56.119
<v Speaker 1>shooting was announced sometime on Thursday, Jake Tapper immediately put

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01:01:56.119 --> 01:01:59.079
<v Speaker 1>on someone from Florida that talked about more gun laws

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01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:02.280
<v Speaker 1>are needed, obviously because this thing and all the laws

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01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:04.719
<v Speaker 1>we have an affect in Florida didn't work. Really, the

1201
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:07.639
<v Speaker 1>bodies had not even gotten the room temperature before that

1202
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:12.639
<v Speaker 1>radical left wanted to politicize another shooting for personal benefits,

1203
01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:15.119
<v Speaker 1>but nonetheless go over some of the issues in the

1204
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Florida State shooting with Phoenix Eichner Icknor and what it

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01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.480
<v Speaker 1>teaches us about gun laws and their effectiveness in Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Well, I mean our guns were already banned in

1207
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Florida State University campus when the attack occurred. The problem

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01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:35.400
<v Speaker 4>that you face with a lot of these laws is

1209
01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:39.280
<v Speaker 4>that they disarmed law body citizens, not the criminals. So

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01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:43.079
<v Speaker 4>if you have a criminal penalty for going in taking

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01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:45.920
<v Speaker 4>a gun into a gun free zone like that, for

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01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:48.159
<v Speaker 4>you or I, you know, if we spend a couple

1213
01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:50.920
<v Speaker 4>of years in prison for violating that type of rule,

1214
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:55.559
<v Speaker 4>our lives would be completely changed. But let's say you're

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01:02:55.599 --> 01:02:57.920
<v Speaker 4>the person who's going to murder a couple people and

1216
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:02.000
<v Speaker 4>wound others and violate multiple laws, and you're going to

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01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:05.360
<v Speaker 4>be facing multiple life sentences in any case, do you

1218
01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:08.199
<v Speaker 4>think a couple of years from your you know, fourth

1219
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:11.079
<v Speaker 4>or fifth life is going to make a difference for

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01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:13.239
<v Speaker 4>whether or not that person's going to commit a crime.

1221
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:15.199
<v Speaker 4>It's not going to be relevant to them. So all

1222
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:18.320
<v Speaker 4>you've done with some of these laws is make it

1223
01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:22.159
<v Speaker 4>so that the law abiding, good citizens obey the rules,

1224
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:25.920
<v Speaker 4>not the criminals. And the only thing that you've done

1225
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.599
<v Speaker 4>is ensure for the criminal that they'll be the only

1226
01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:32.760
<v Speaker 4>person that's going to be armed there, and that makes

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01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:35.199
<v Speaker 4>it a lot easier for them to accomplish their goal

1228
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<v Speaker 4>in terms of killing people.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of these so called activists on Thursday Afternoon

1230
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:44.400
<v Speaker 1>with Jake Tapper and CNN talked about age restrictions. You know,

1231
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<v Speaker 1>in the wake of the Parkland Florida, Florida itself enacted

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01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:50.599
<v Speaker 1>responses to that. One of those was an age restriction

1233
01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:53.400
<v Speaker 1>for long gun sales. And of course this was not

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01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the weapons obtained by this murderer. If you had more

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01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and more age restrictions on gun sales, would that have

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01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:02.519
<v Speaker 1>made any difference at all in this case?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he obtained it from his mom, who's a deputy sheriff,

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01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:09.800
<v Speaker 4>So you would have had to ban the deputy sheriff

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01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:12.599
<v Speaker 4>from being able to go and get a gun in

1240
01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:15.000
<v Speaker 4>that case. But you know, if you look at all

1241
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:19.480
<v Speaker 4>the math public shootings over the last twenty five years,

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01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:23.119
<v Speaker 4>what you're going to find is that the age ranges

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01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:27.119
<v Speaker 4>that commit the most math public shootings are basically twenty

1244
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:31.920
<v Speaker 4>six to thirty and then thirty to forty. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>So are you going to ban guns all the way

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01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:36.400
<v Speaker 4>up to age forty?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:40.079
<v Speaker 4>What I think you need to look at is kind

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<v Speaker 4>of what motivates these people. We don't know yet in

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01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:48.079
<v Speaker 4>this particular case. But I've read enough diaries, I've read

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01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:51.679
<v Speaker 4>enough manifestos for these mass murders to know that their

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01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:54.559
<v Speaker 4>goal is to get media coverage, and they know the

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01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:57.320
<v Speaker 4>more people they kill, the more media coverage they're going

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01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:00.559
<v Speaker 4>to get. Very frequently were reach State been saying, if

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01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:03.519
<v Speaker 4>I can only kill more people than such and such did,

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01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:06.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to be able to get even more media coverage.

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01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:09.679
<v Speaker 4>You have people who are suicidal. We've had people who

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01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:14.400
<v Speaker 4>are suicidal forever in the human race, but at some

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01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:18.079
<v Speaker 4>point in time people realize that they could get a

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01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:20.920
<v Speaker 4>lot of media coverage. So you have people who feel

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01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:24.280
<v Speaker 4>unappreciated and they know that if they go and kill

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01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:27.159
<v Speaker 4>lots of people, they'll get their names in the history

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01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:29.840
<v Speaker 4>books to quote what a number of them have said.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's at least people will know that they were here.

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01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:36.719
<v Speaker 4>And so the question you have to ask is how

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01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:40.760
<v Speaker 4>do you take away that goal that they have. And

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01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:44.280
<v Speaker 4>the important thing there is to have somebody there quickly

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01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:47.320
<v Speaker 4>at the scene who's going to be able to stop them.

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<v Speaker 4>So rather than having signs in front of these schools

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01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:53.480
<v Speaker 4>and other places that says the school is a gun

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01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:56.440
<v Speaker 4>free zone, you know, why not have a sign if

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<v Speaker 4>you're talking about K through twelve schools that say warnings,

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01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:02.480
<v Speaker 4>what teachers and staff here are armed and will use

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01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:06.719
<v Speaker 4>their guns to go and protect students and others. You know,

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01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:09.719
<v Speaker 4>there's a reason why. So we have something like over

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01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:13.079
<v Speaker 4>ten thousand schools in the United States that have armed teachers.

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<v Speaker 4>We've had school shootings, There's not been one school shooting

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01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:23.000
<v Speaker 4>where anybody's been wounded or killed at a school that

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01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:26.239
<v Speaker 4>allows teachers and staff to be able to coed care.

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<v Speaker 4>All the attacks have occurred in those places where you

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01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:32.320
<v Speaker 4>have these gun freeze zone signs up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well before we get to this public health survey, which

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<v Speaker 1>you have article you wrote on April the ninth, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fabulous, another one is red flag laws. Almost all

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01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:46.880
<v Speaker 1>these mass shooters have serious psychological with psychiatric problems, some treated,

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01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:50.199
<v Speaker 1>some not. And why did it take so long in

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01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the Nashville Christian School incident for that the truth to

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01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:57.519
<v Speaker 1>come out about why he selected that particular school. I

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01:06:57.559 --> 01:06:59.679
<v Speaker 1>think the answer is it didn't fit the liberal die

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01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:03.920
<v Speaker 1>drive about the shooter in the Nashville Christian School, And

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01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:06.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure it's been well publicized why he chose

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01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:08.880
<v Speaker 1>that school. But I know, you know, why did that

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01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:12.920
<v Speaker 1>mass psychiatric killer pick that school to kill as many

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01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:13.960
<v Speaker 1>students as possible.

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<v Speaker 4>We knew why she picked it in fact of the

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01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:23.360
<v Speaker 4>day of the shooting, because the Nashville Police Chief had

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01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:27.199
<v Speaker 4>gotten access to her diary or manifesto or whatever you

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01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.519
<v Speaker 4>want to call it, and she had made it clear

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01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:34.920
<v Speaker 4>that she had looked at other targets but had decided

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01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:37.760
<v Speaker 4>because there were people with guns at the other targets,

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01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:40.119
<v Speaker 4>not to go after those, and so she had picked

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01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:45.519
<v Speaker 4>the school, the Covenant School, to go after. And you know,

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01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:47.960
<v Speaker 4>these people may be crazy in some sense, but they're

1304
01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:52.559
<v Speaker 4>not stupid. You know, they know that they can kill

1305
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:55.159
<v Speaker 4>more people if they go to a place where they're

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01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:58.599
<v Speaker 4>victims are defenseless and somebody's not going to be there

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01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:00.840
<v Speaker 4>to be able to go and stop them. They you know,

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01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:03.440
<v Speaker 4>when you go and you look at these attacks, these

1309
01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:07.159
<v Speaker 4>killers spend long periods of time planning. These six months

1310
01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:09.119
<v Speaker 4>is a short amount of time. You have people like

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01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:12.760
<v Speaker 4>the Sandy Hook killer who spent like two and a

1312
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:17.359
<v Speaker 4>half years planning for his attack in that case. So

1313
01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:20.079
<v Speaker 4>they look through all these things, they look through the

1314
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:24.560
<v Speaker 4>success of other mass murderers. They see that these mass

1315
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:29.720
<v Speaker 4>murderers go I mean they explicitly acknowledge that they follow

1316
01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:33.039
<v Speaker 4>that these mass murderers go to places where victims can't

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01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:36.800
<v Speaker 4>defend themselves. You know, one of the things that just

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<v Speaker 4>drives me nuts with regard to the media is the

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01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:43.560
<v Speaker 4>media may cover parts of these manifestos and diaries for

1320
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:48.079
<v Speaker 4>these mass murders, and you're implying this in your question here,

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01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:53.000
<v Speaker 4>but they refuse, they absolutely refuse to discuss those parts

1322
01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:57.000
<v Speaker 4>of the manifestos and diaries where these killers explain why

1323
01:08:57.079 --> 01:08:59.479
<v Speaker 4>they picked the target that they did. Why isn't that

1324
01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:02.800
<v Speaker 4>news worth Why isn't that important for people to know

1325
01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:06.800
<v Speaker 4>that these guys are explicitly going to places where they

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01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:10.800
<v Speaker 4>know they're victims can't defend themselves because the government bans

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01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:13.239
<v Speaker 4>people from having guns in those areas.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, that a Florida State situation, if there were

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01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:20.319
<v Speaker 1>armed students or armed teachers, armed professors, maybe lives would

1330
01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:23.760
<v Speaker 1>have been saved, and likely Phoenix would not have picked

1331
01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Florida State because it is rare to have a psychiatric

1332
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:31.079
<v Speaker 1>mass murderer pick at facility where he's likely to quickly shot,

1333
01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:35.199
<v Speaker 1>and red flag laws Florida has one doesn't apply in

1334
01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:39.319
<v Speaker 1>this case. Age restrictions doesn't apply, magazine restrictions don't apply,

1335
01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the assault weapons ban doesn't apply. Gun free zones doesn't apply.

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<v Speaker 1>It does apply, but he picked a gun free zone.

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01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:49.720
<v Speaker 1>In fact, when Jake Tapper on Thursday afternoon, mandatory storage

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01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:52.800
<v Speaker 1>laws is another one, and these laws generally apply to

1339
01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:55.640
<v Speaker 1>keeping a gun locked up when there's a miner in

1340
01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the house. The elect shooter was twenty. I guess you

1341
01:09:57.640 --> 01:09:59.560
<v Speaker 1>could be a miner. But it makes it much more

1342
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:02.920
<v Speaker 1>difficult called for an American to access a firearm when

1343
01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:05.920
<v Speaker 1>they need it, different times of stress, making things more dangerous,

1344
01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:09.319
<v Speaker 1>and so none of it works.

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01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:14.439
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know the problem is when you discuss when

1346
01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:17.199
<v Speaker 4>people discuss a lot of these laws, they talk about

1347
01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:20.800
<v Speaker 4>a possible benefit, but they don't talk about the costs.

1348
01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:23.199
<v Speaker 4>And you just mentioned one. So you go and mandate

1349
01:10:23.640 --> 01:10:25.680
<v Speaker 4>that people have to go and lock up their guns,

1350
01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:29.159
<v Speaker 4>they make them less accessible for people. It makes it

1351
01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:33.159
<v Speaker 4>easier for criminals to go and commit crimes against those people.

1352
01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:37.239
<v Speaker 4>In fact, what you find is that when states pass

1353
01:10:37.359 --> 01:10:41.159
<v Speaker 4>these safe storage laws, the rate that criminals break into

1354
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:45.600
<v Speaker 4>people's homes and successfully commit crimes goes up. I'll give

1355
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:49.079
<v Speaker 4>me one comparison. We have data on something called hot

1356
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:54.640
<v Speaker 4>burglaries across different countries the United States, about thirteen percent

1357
01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:57.720
<v Speaker 4>of burglaries occur while the residents are at home. In

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01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:01.399
<v Speaker 4>a country like the UK, it's about sixty percent of

1359
01:11:01.439 --> 01:11:05.039
<v Speaker 4>the burglaries that occur have their residents at home when

1360
01:11:05.119 --> 01:11:09.039
<v Speaker 4>the burglary occurs. American burglars, their big time for doing

1361
01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:11.439
<v Speaker 4>burglaries is kind of in the middle of the day

1362
01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:14.119
<v Speaker 4>when people are likely to be out in a way.

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01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:17.119
<v Speaker 4>In the UK, they like to do burglaries in the

1364
01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:20.000
<v Speaker 4>evening precisely to make sure that people are at home.

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01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:22.359
<v Speaker 4>And the reason why they like to do that is

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01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:24.800
<v Speaker 4>because then they can force the people to go and

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01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:28.680
<v Speaker 4>tell them where their valuables are in the home and

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01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:32.880
<v Speaker 4>the big different and American burglars spent about twice as

1369
01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:35.880
<v Speaker 4>long casing a home before they break in compared to

1370
01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:39.520
<v Speaker 4>their British counterparts, and surveys that have been done indicate

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01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:43.000
<v Speaker 4>the reason why they spend so long casing a home

1372
01:11:43.039 --> 01:11:47.039
<v Speaker 4>in America as compared to in Britain is that their

1373
01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:49.960
<v Speaker 4>word about getting shot and one way to protect yourself

1374
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:53.439
<v Speaker 4>from being shot is to make sure that nobody is

1375
01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:56.920
<v Speaker 4>home to go and do the shooting. In Britain, they

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01:11:56.960 --> 01:11:59.960
<v Speaker 4>actually prefer to have people there at home, as I say,

1377
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:03.159
<v Speaker 4>because then they can tell them where their valuables are.

1378
01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what percent of Brits are armed at home? I

1379
01:12:07.880 --> 01:12:10.680
<v Speaker 1>think probably ninety nine percent are not armed. And so

1380
01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:12.920
<v Speaker 1>if you have an elderly couple or some old person

1381
01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:16.319
<v Speaker 1>living home alone, you know that person doesn't have a gun,

1382
01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you break in or walk in the door and demand

1383
01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:20.560
<v Speaker 1>to know where the valuables are in a way you

1384
01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:23.319
<v Speaker 1>go in America, I don't care if you're seventeen or

1385
01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:26.199
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight or eighty eight. You have to factor into

1386
01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:29.520
<v Speaker 1>the equation whether or not this person is gonna is

1387
01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:33.479
<v Speaker 1>gonna kill you. And that that's why gun control laws

1388
01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:36.279
<v Speaker 1>don't work. The problem's never been guns. Take away the guns,

1389
01:12:36.319 --> 01:12:39.319
<v Speaker 1>it'll be knives like in Europe, or take away the knives.

1390
01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:41.880
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have mass beatings. Take away the beatings. There'll

1391
01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:46.039
<v Speaker 1>be cars used by these psychiatric homicidal killers. And the gun.

1392
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Gun control doesn't work. But it raises a lot of money.

1393
01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:53.039
<v Speaker 1>But correct, it's a fundraiser, right, Well.

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01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:56.279
<v Speaker 4>It's slightly differently say, not only doesn't it work, it

1395
01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:59.920
<v Speaker 4>makes the situation worse. Yeah, I'll give you a simple example.

1396
01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:03.880
<v Speaker 4>You look around the world. Any place that's banned either

1397
01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:07.079
<v Speaker 4>all guns or all handguns has seen murder rates go

1398
01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:10.399
<v Speaker 4>up every single time. You think out of randomness once

1399
01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:13.479
<v Speaker 4>or twice when you've banned guns, guns are as bad

1400
01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:17.119
<v Speaker 4>on net as people claim. You think for sure you'd

1401
01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:20.960
<v Speaker 4>find at least a couple, but probably lots of places

1402
01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:23.479
<v Speaker 4>where gun bands have been associated with the drop in

1403
01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:26.199
<v Speaker 4>murder rates, and yet every single time it's gone up.

1404
01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:29.680
<v Speaker 4>And the problem is is that when you pass these bands,

1405
01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:32.920
<v Speaker 4>it's the most law abiding, good citizens who obey that,

1406
01:13:33.199 --> 01:13:36.159
<v Speaker 4>not the criminals. And to the extent that you disarm

1407
01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:39.359
<v Speaker 4>law abiding citizens relative to criminals, you actually make it

1408
01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:43.199
<v Speaker 4>relatively easier for criminals to go and commit crimes. So,

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01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:47.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, the ban is a simple example, but the

1410
01:13:47.279 --> 01:13:50.479
<v Speaker 4>basic point applies to other things. There's one thing I

1411
01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:53.079
<v Speaker 4>wanted to mention with regard to your coming about the

1412
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:57.000
<v Speaker 4>Florida State University and you know, talking about concealed carry

1413
01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:00.479
<v Speaker 4>permit holders. We just finished a study where we looked

1414
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:04.039
<v Speaker 4>over the last decade for what the FBI calls active

1415
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:08.880
<v Speaker 4>shooting cases. These are attacks, they're current public they're not

1416
01:14:09.159 --> 01:14:11.319
<v Speaker 4>some other part of some other type of crime like

1417
01:14:11.359 --> 01:14:14.840
<v Speaker 4>a gang fight over drug turf, And it's anything from

1418
01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:17.119
<v Speaker 4>one person being shot at and missed all the way

1419
01:14:17.159 --> 01:14:20.079
<v Speaker 4>up to a mass public shooting. And what we found

1420
01:14:20.359 --> 01:14:25.319
<v Speaker 4>is that civilians were more likely to stop these attacks

1421
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:30.039
<v Speaker 4>than police, and also a police when they did were there,

1422
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:33.560
<v Speaker 4>we're more likely to get killed or wounded when they

1423
01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:35.880
<v Speaker 4>were trying to stop the attack. And there's a simple

1424
01:14:35.920 --> 01:14:39.000
<v Speaker 4>reason for this, and that is people have to appreciate

1425
01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:43.880
<v Speaker 4>what an incredibly difficult job having somebody in uniform has

1426
01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:46.640
<v Speaker 4>when they're trying to go and stop these attacks. These

1427
01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:51.760
<v Speaker 4>murders have real tactical advantages. If you have an officer

1428
01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:54.800
<v Speaker 4>who's in uniform there and you're thinking about doing an

1429
01:14:54.840 --> 01:14:58.039
<v Speaker 4>attack at that place, you have several options. You can

1430
01:14:58.079 --> 01:15:01.600
<v Speaker 4>either wait for the officer to leave, okay, or you

1431
01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:04.600
<v Speaker 4>can move on to another target yourself. Or if you're

1432
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:07.560
<v Speaker 4>going to insist on attacking in that place, who do

1433
01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:09.800
<v Speaker 4>you think you take out first? You're going to take

1434
01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:12.159
<v Speaker 4>out the officer because he's the one person you know

1435
01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:16.159
<v Speaker 4>for sure has a gun. The benefit of concealed carry

1436
01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:20.600
<v Speaker 4>is the attacker doesn't know who's there or whether somebody

1437
01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:23.800
<v Speaker 4>is there already. Yeah, a simple comparison I would make

1438
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:26.880
<v Speaker 4>because we have air marshals on planes. Do you think

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01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:29.560
<v Speaker 4>an air marshal on a plane should be in uniform. No,

1440
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:32.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't know anybody who thinks that that should be

1441
01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.239
<v Speaker 4>the case. And why not, because if you had him

1442
01:15:34.239 --> 01:15:38.000
<v Speaker 4>in uniform, he would be a target for a terrorist

1443
01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:40.039
<v Speaker 4>if you happen to have a terrorist on the plane,

1444
01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:42.680
<v Speaker 4>and so you want him to blend in, you want it.

1445
01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:44.960
<v Speaker 4>You don't want the terrorists to be able to know

1446
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:47.359
<v Speaker 4>who it is that they have to worry about. But

1447
01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:52.680
<v Speaker 4>unfortunately officers don't have that luxury of being, you know, incognito.

1448
01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:56.119
<v Speaker 4>They're there, they're in uniform, and it's kind of like

1449
01:15:56.399 --> 01:15:59.720
<v Speaker 4>them having a neon sign that's above them that says,

1450
01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:04.479
<v Speaker 4>go shoot me first. And people have to appreciate, you know,

1451
01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:07.680
<v Speaker 4>these individuals who are in uniform who put their lives

1452
01:16:07.720 --> 01:16:10.960
<v Speaker 4>on the line. But it also points out the benefit

1453
01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:14.720
<v Speaker 4>of concealed carry for civilians. We also have a lot

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<v Speaker 4>more civilians. We have twenty one and a half million

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<v Speaker 4>Americans who have concealed carry permits in the United States,

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<v Speaker 4>plus we have twenty nine constitutional carry states where it's

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<v Speaker 4>not required to have a permit. You know, we have

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01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:32.319
<v Speaker 4>six hundred and seventy thousand police and not all of

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01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:34.319
<v Speaker 4>them are on duty at any time. Maybe you have

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01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:39.000
<v Speaker 4>two fifty and so there's no way they can go

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<v Speaker 4>and cover the three hundred and forty million Americans that

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<v Speaker 4>are out there that could be targets.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, John Lott, do you have excellent research for those

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01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:53.159
<v Speaker 1>lessening crimeresearch dot org headline armed civilian stop active shooters

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01:16:53.399 --> 01:16:57.520
<v Speaker 1>more effectively than uniformed police. The research is there, but

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<v Speaker 1>reason in facts mean nothing to them of a liberal

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01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:03.359
<v Speaker 1>who wants to raise money and act as if they're important.

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<v Speaker 1>And once again, John Lott, you're the best there is

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<v Speaker 1>in this topic. Thanks for coming on, and once again

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. John Lott, thank.

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<v Speaker 4>You very much, thank you for being there.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill, God bless you. Let's continue the truth and reasona

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01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:20.520
<v Speaker 1>will set us free. But the more we have gun

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01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:23.560
<v Speaker 1>free zones, the more there's going to be more violence

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01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:26.680
<v Speaker 1>in gun free zones. In fact, you don't know. In

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<v Speaker 1>this case, Phoenix Eichner, the murderer who I imagine survived,

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01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:34.800
<v Speaker 1>we think he survived the shooting, went to a gun

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01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:40.159
<v Speaker 1>free zone to kill a psychiatric homicidal killer was set

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<v Speaker 1>loose on Florida State. Bill Cunningham with you every afternoon

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01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:46.039
<v Speaker 1>on News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 7>We get criticized for that because we run with a

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01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:55.560
<v Speaker 7>lighter crew than some other teams do. But I don't

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01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:58.520
<v Speaker 7>know that we do badly there. We picked up Reggie

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01:17:58.520 --> 01:18:02.000
<v Speaker 7>Nelson this year. That's a pretty good acquisition. Really. The

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01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:05.880
<v Speaker 7>year before we picked up the fullback from Rutgers, the

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01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:10.680
<v Speaker 7>young kid Leonard, and he helped us a lot. We

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<v Speaker 7>have people up there who are attuned to this stuff.

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01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:18.760
<v Speaker 7>Duke Tobin is on top of it very, very thoroughly.

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<v Speaker 4>Today.

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<v Speaker 7>With the communications you have, you can talk to people

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01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:29.720
<v Speaker 7>anytime anywhere in this country, and we do. You don't

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01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:32.119
<v Speaker 7>have to have a guy sitting in an office doing

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01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:35.520
<v Speaker 7>just that. You can carry this information with you as

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01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:38.640
<v Speaker 7>you travel and then communicate when it's necessary. And that's

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01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:39.159
<v Speaker 7>what we do.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, quiet and I'm spokes I'm broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the Bengal Oracle at Delphi. Mike Brown talking about

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01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:58.319
<v Speaker 1>communications today. We can't talk to anybody whenever we want.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of a new thing. Alexander Graham Bell invented it,

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01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:04.079
<v Speaker 1>and does Mike Brown. Does Mike Brown have a flip

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01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:06.960
<v Speaker 1>phone or no phone? You know what? I don't know.

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01:19:07.119 --> 01:19:08.960
<v Speaker 6>I like to find out. I think I got his

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01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:10.920
<v Speaker 6>cell phone number, but I've never called him.

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01:19:11.039 --> 01:19:13.279
<v Speaker 1>What about Nancy is lovely white.

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<v Speaker 7>Communication out, you have no you can talk to people

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01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:18.520
<v Speaker 7>anytime anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear that. That's true, that's good. He's right. And Nancy

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<v Speaker 1>Brown was interviewed a matron of the Bengals by one

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01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:29.439
<v Speaker 1>Tanya or Rourke. You may recall, yes, about six months ago.

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01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:32.880
<v Speaker 1>And it seems like a wonderful lady. Wonderful matter a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times. He's a very lovely lady, nice lady.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the deal is getting close. Segment, get us

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<v Speaker 1>into the Stude Report and tell the American people what's happening.

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<v Speaker 6>Will he the Student Reporter's approach service, every local Tamestar

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<v Speaker 6>heating and air conditioning dealers Tamestar quality you can feel

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<v Speaker 6>on the beautiful east Side called Clement's Heating an air

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<v Speaker 6>at nine three seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Four four four forty four zero one.

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<v Speaker 6>And also, will you we to thank Penn Station East

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<v Speaker 6>Coast Subs for our lunch today. It's all about good

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01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:08.359
<v Speaker 6>taste with the handcrafted subs, fries and lemonade.

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<v Speaker 1>Man and segment, I think a dear park graduate owns that.

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<v Speaker 1>And the lemonade and the French fries are fabulous right

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<v Speaker 1>there in Kenwood.

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<v Speaker 6>Willie This see Bengals Update brought to you by Good

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<v Speaker 6>Spirits and Party Town with thirteen convenient locations in northern

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01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:30.800
<v Speaker 6>kentangle Hamilton County and the Bengals reaching an agreement to

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01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:35.640
<v Speaker 6>reach an agreement. Today, the county announced a memorandum of

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01:20:35.840 --> 01:20:40.159
<v Speaker 6>understanding called an MoU to make one hundred and eighty

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01:20:40.159 --> 01:20:43.239
<v Speaker 6>four million dollars in improvements at pay Corps Stadium in

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<v Speaker 6>the next year. Where's the money coming from? And reach

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<v Speaker 6>a long term agreement by June thirtieth of this year.

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<v Speaker 1>And on Denise about two hours ago she talked about

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01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the deal deal seg team will pay one hundred and

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01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:58.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty mili County sixty four. That's two thirds to the Bengals,

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01:20:58.640 --> 01:21:03.000
<v Speaker 1>one third of the county. But fun, now the pickleball

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01:21:03.239 --> 01:21:06.439
<v Speaker 1>is in the state court. Matt Huffman, the Speaker of

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01:21:06.479 --> 01:21:10.279
<v Speaker 1>the House, needs to anty up some money. According to

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01:21:10.359 --> 01:21:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Denise Treehouse, it remains my third, one third, one third

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01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:16.359
<v Speaker 1>could get the deal deal because the guys are Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think Matt Huffman is a Republican

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Under the deal deal, the Bengals would renovate club lounges

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01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:25.239
<v Speaker 6>and suites, as well as improved concessions.

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01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:28.319
<v Speaker 1>How many sweets have you been in? One?

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<v Speaker 6>The county would put in new escalators, refurbish the elevators,

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01:21:34.439 --> 01:21:37.239
<v Speaker 6>and upgrade the power grid and other technology.

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<v Speaker 1>That takes one hundred and eighty million.

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01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:43.159
<v Speaker 6>That means Wi Fi City, Baby and the Bengals now

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01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:45.920
<v Speaker 6>have until June thirtieth to decide whether the team will

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<v Speaker 6>extend the current lease another two years or all.

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01:21:49.239 --> 01:21:51.960
<v Speaker 1>The team doesn't, or the current lease.

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01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:56.800
<v Speaker 6>Will with the county expires June thirtieth when Riverfront Stadium

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01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:59.239
<v Speaker 6>was opened twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>The deal deal's got to include a long term guaranteed

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<v Speaker 1>least otherwise the county, according to Denise Treehouse, will say

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<v Speaker 1>nah babanah, nah babanah nah babbana.

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<v Speaker 6>Also will you. The NFL Draft, of course, starts Thursday

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<v Speaker 6>at Beautiful Green Bay.

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01:22:13.479 --> 01:22:16.439
<v Speaker 1>I got James Rapine on a twelve oh five Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>to break it all down.

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<v Speaker 6>Seven out of ww's best Bengals coverage starts at six Thursday,

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<v Speaker 6>live from the Holy grail Stone. Stateman's NFL drafticks Spectacular

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<v Speaker 6>presented by Ortho Sinsey Orthopedics and Sports Medicine, and then

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<v Speaker 6>an emery Federal Credit Union and then Red's update Regil

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<v Speaker 6>Trade even up the series up against those Marlins. Tonight

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<v Speaker 6>on South Beach five forty Sports Talk Rnel Carriers, Inside Pitch,

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<v Speaker 6>Kelsey Chevrolet Extrading Show.

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<v Speaker 1>After the game, we had Craig Braun in from Sheldon Braun.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, Sheldon's going to come in in

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01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:52.159
<v Speaker 1>a couple of months. He's the great golfer, one of

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01:22:52.199 --> 01:22:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the great amateur golfers of all time. But we went

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01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:58.520
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge Braun Heating and Air Temp Starr and Craig Braun

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<v Speaker 1>is a great America.

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<v Speaker 9>And a D.

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<v Speaker 6>The CEO JV see the vice president of Edney j

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<v Speaker 6>D Executive vice president to you, mister. The Reds have

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01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:12.680
<v Speaker 6>sent out catcher Tyler Stevenson and pitcher Sam Mall send

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01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:15.079
<v Speaker 6>him out to rehab A Simon's on Triple A to

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<v Speaker 6>Triple A Louisville, So they're one step away from coming back.

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01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:19.680
<v Speaker 1>They'll probably play.

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<v Speaker 6>Over now and then over the weekend, maybe back for

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01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:24.840
<v Speaker 6>the Saint Louis series when they opened a home stand

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01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:30.119
<v Speaker 6>next week. Also Wade Miley Lefty remember him? Yes, starts

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<v Speaker 6>to rehab a Simon. He'll start tonight for the Dayton

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<v Speaker 6>Dragons against West Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't he throw a no hitter?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, a few years ago with the Reds and he

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01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:42.000
<v Speaker 6>went to the Brewers and he hurt and now he's

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01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:42.520
<v Speaker 6>coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's coming back now. I'm optimistic about the Reds despite

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01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the fact they're eleven and twelve. Me too. Would you agree? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>The pitching is the best I've seen since twenty thirteen.

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01:23:51.760 --> 01:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>If Lodolo see Hunter Green had a rough one Saturday,

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01:23:56.560 --> 01:23:59.039
<v Speaker 1>Lodolo had a rough one last night, It's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Martinez used to win a game tonight, would you agree?

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01:24:01.479 --> 01:24:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Bingo at twenty million bucks? How many games has he

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<v Speaker 1>won this year? Zero and three? Please continue?

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<v Speaker 6>Also Willie Tonight's lineup, let's get it Freedol and center,

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01:24:12.439 --> 01:24:15.680
<v Speaker 6>McLean at second, Superman at short.

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01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:19.720
<v Speaker 1>And McLean's still hitting about two hundred. Surly, it's only

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01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:23.239
<v Speaker 1>put just say three games in the season. Just saying

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01:24:25.319 --> 01:24:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Willie Mays Hayes is the is the DH he related

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<v Speaker 1>to rutherfert B. Hayes.

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<v Speaker 6>No left field is Gavin Lux I do you know

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01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:37.920
<v Speaker 6>that j Murr Candelario is it first May?

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01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he start hitting? No Velie Marte is a third?

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01:24:41.319 --> 01:24:42.399
<v Speaker 1>What about Cees?

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01:24:42.720 --> 01:24:46.920
<v Speaker 6>The snake is in right and Trevino is catching. Cees

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01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:51.640
<v Speaker 6>is currently hurt? What about Lee Trevino he's catching tonight? Well,

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<v Speaker 6>Happy birthday, Willie is speaking of the Reds. Happy birthday

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01:24:56.119 --> 01:24:58.760
<v Speaker 6>today to manager Terry Francona.

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<v Speaker 1>How old is he? Thirty five and holding?

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<v Speaker 6>I could check it out. And also it's happy Earth Day.

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01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:10.039
<v Speaker 6>To do something nice for the Earth. Always do. It's

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01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:13.239
<v Speaker 6>a big blue marble right here, baby, Always do. The

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01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:16.039
<v Speaker 6>Cleveland Browns and the New York Football Giants are fielding

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<v Speaker 6>trade inquiries for their early picks in the National Football

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<v Speaker 6>League draft. The Titan The Tennessee Titans aren't answering the

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<v Speaker 6>phone with the first pick overall, but sources tell ESPN

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01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:33.119
<v Speaker 6>the Browns have the second pick. Giants a third pick

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01:25:33.560 --> 01:25:36.760
<v Speaker 6>have received trade calls over the past forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 6>Sixty six years old is Terry Francona. Congratulations, Happy birthday,

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<v Speaker 6>April nineteen fifty nine. Also, Willey, we want to say

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<v Speaker 6>congratulations to the Right State Raiders. They went back to

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<v Speaker 6>back Horizon League tournament championships. Let's get him in here

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<v Speaker 6>in an automatic bid to the NCAA Men's Golf Tournament.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you still working on d Alexander? Yeah, I haven't

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01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:03.039
<v Speaker 6>heard a thing from Purcell Maryon at all.

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01:26:03.359 --> 01:26:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Nothing. We put out the water, put out the chum always.

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<v Speaker 6>This year that team posted that they were seventeen over par,

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01:26:09.159 --> 01:26:13.640
<v Speaker 6>eleven shots better than Cleveland State. They got junior let's

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<v Speaker 6>see individual runner up and junior Shane os also sophomore

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<v Speaker 6>Madison or Mason grad Timothy Hollandbeck a grad student at

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<v Speaker 6>of Moler, a man of Moeler is a brock Rumky,

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<v Speaker 6>and junior of Milford grad is Adam.

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<v Speaker 1>Horn seeing the garbage business that Rumpky graduate graduations to

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<v Speaker 1>Wright State, Wright State round thunder the Xavier and women's

1640
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<v Speaker 1>tennis teams going to the NCAA tournament, and the Gauls

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<v Speaker 1>is the women's golf team as the UC women's golf

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<v Speaker 1>team played the Xavier women's golf team. Because I played

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01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a chipped and puttett with the UC female golf team

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<v Speaker 1>at Lisantaville with Mike McCall.

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<v Speaker 6>That I don't know, Willy, I know that I think

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<v Speaker 6>tonight at six. It's a uc An x and Bay.

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01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:04.199
<v Speaker 6>I think at Hayden Field. I'd have to go there.

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01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:08.239
<v Speaker 6>Just saying out in Miami Town. Yeah, I mean you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's college baseball tonight. The Crosstown shootout in baseball,

1650
01:27:13.760 --> 01:27:17.159
<v Speaker 6>Xavier won the last game with like three runs in

1651
01:27:17.199 --> 01:27:20.079
<v Speaker 6>the ninth to beat the Cats in Clifton.

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01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:23.319
<v Speaker 1>That's a problem. How about that center fielder for the

1653
01:27:23.319 --> 01:27:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Bearcats over the shoulder catch Willie May style bingo? How

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01:27:27.479 --> 01:27:27.880
<v Speaker 1>about that?

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<v Speaker 6>But nothing's better, nothing's better than number forty four? Eric,

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01:27:33.840 --> 01:27:37.039
<v Speaker 6>mister DLC over the week?

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01:27:37.079 --> 01:27:40.479
<v Speaker 1>What about Cees? What about it? Where is he now?

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01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>He's hurt, He's always hurt. What's wrong with him now?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. I think the knee bones connected to

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<v Speaker 1>the thigh bone. And then you got Matt McClain.

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<v Speaker 6>Is he hurt? I think the I think the Reds

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<v Speaker 6>are playing that game operation Remember you put the bones

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<v Speaker 6>in there if you hit the side.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you get hurt this much when you're twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years old? Don't ask me.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't get it. I'm hurting at sixty seven. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>always hurt. You I'm hurting. Yeah, Well, give me out

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<v Speaker 6>of the students report Willie and Otter of a beautiful

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<v Speaker 6>day here at the tri State and once again, Happy

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<v Speaker 6>Earth Day to all.

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<v Speaker 1>Earth Day is well taken care of because of the

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<v Speaker 1>capitalism and entrepreneurship of the American people.

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<v Speaker 6>Do something to do something today for our big blue marble.

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<v Speaker 6>We leave you with the immortal words of the stud report.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm justsman vaccine dexter here, coming to you from a Sevader.

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<v Speaker 10>I knew her last night with the of my colleagues

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<v Speaker 10>to demand that kim.

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<v Speaker 4>Ildvia Garcia be released.

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<v Speaker 10>He's being chaled in violation of a Supreme Court, especially

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<v Speaker 10>tending the Trump administration to a situate and facilitate He's

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<v Speaker 10>coming here that is being a.

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<v Speaker 9>This is not just a set to all people in

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<v Speaker 9>the United States who could be illegally addicted to teams

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<v Speaker 9>and case treated and nationality against the will.

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<v Speaker 10>But it is a fact that our President christmay Tycodnis

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<v Speaker 10>the branches of government in the apearances of parent this

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<v Speaker 10>is what we aret of thingsing a constitutional basis. Yet

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<v Speaker 10>it is more severe than anything we've seen. We cannot

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<v Speaker 10>see seven we missed in them. I am here because

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<v Speaker 10>I refuse to wait for something to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>We are here to release kill.

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<v Speaker 10>They per see.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she's being ignored by Boukayley, who's the president. They

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<v Speaker 1>ignoring her. She said, I'm staying until I bring home

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<v Speaker 1>an MS thirteen wife beater who's a human trafficker. Need

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<v Speaker 1>him back in the country. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>seg Man, Yeah, I can't. I can't. I can't take

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<v Speaker 1>it anymore. I live in some alternative universe episode. Does

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<v Speaker 1>she Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven

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