Speaker 1: Santa's Little helpers from Jacob Hester and Tiva Baber are
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Christmas season, live from the Mercedes Benz of Baton Rouge Studio.
Here's Jacob Hester and t bab a beer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome back, guys to another day of O t B.
It is Tuesday, and uh again, we got a lot
to break down.
Speaker 3: LSU is so hot right.
Speaker 2: Now, especially in the transfer portal, adding another couple of
big names yesterday. I want to talk about what else's
roster will look like in this Bowl game. As you're
gonna be missing a lot of key players and it's
a pretty good Baylor team, would you consider adding a
running back?
Speaker 3: Made for twenty twenty five. Got coach Molki.
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Speaker 3: Jake, what's up, brother, How are we doing? Doing good?
Speaker 4: Trying to trying to figure out the schedule. You know,
youve got school parties and school activities and grandparents Day
and hell yeah I do stay and all of that.
So trying to figure out who, what went and where
right now.
Speaker 3: Definitely understand that. Uh, Tay, Tay, what's going on? Brother?
How you doing? I'm doing good?
Speaker 5: Somebody's in the Fantasy Football Championship now eight point victors
came down to the wire and uh, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I want to thank for all that complaining. Well,
I want to thank Kirk Cousins. He was not playing.
Speaker 5: The way he was playing, Darnell Moody would not have
ended with zero catcher.
Speaker 3: So thank you Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Raheem Morris literally in the post game yesterday saying
that they've got to get better at the at the
quarterback position. Not not not going well?
Speaker 3: Kirk? What's going on? You're not taking over traps anymore?
What happened? Dude?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: One again, the U, the Saints and the Falcons deserve
each other. I mean, Derek Carr and Kirk Cousins, both
on big contracts squaring off with another. It's real sicko
NFL level stuff.
Speaker 3: Alondra, what's up. How you doing?
Speaker 7: I'm doing good? Yeah, doing good?
Speaker 3: Right, excellent, excellent.
Speaker 2: You have completely failed. Maybe on Wednesday. You cannot fail.
Speaker 7: I know, I don't know what it is like. This
is like the one question.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're fine on air every other time I
go to you, and it's just like, and you know
this is coming every day.
Speaker 3: This is basically.
Speaker 2: The the kind of uh, you know, the the greasing
of the wheels of the show started getting a flow.
This is like passing the ball back and forth a
little bit, do a little three man weave, and right
when we throw it to you, just bounce off your
stone hands. Yeah.
Speaker 6: The Washington Generals and where the globe trotter.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Like, honestly, I'm not even trying to be like annoying
right now. I just don't feel like anybody cares how
I'm to.
Speaker 3: Oh, break Canton questions. Not really how you're doing. It's
more like say something interesting or like talk about like.
Speaker 7: Anything I got bow touched.
Speaker 3: On your mind? They okay, okay, I'm very excited.
Speaker 7: Just set in.
Speaker 3: So is that the first time you're saying.
Speaker 7: No, I've gotten it a couple times. Okay, but I
don't do anything too crazy.
Speaker 3: I hope not. You're too young to do too crazy.
I understand that people want to do younger. That's completely fine.
Just be careful. I've seen many girls get gobbled up.
Speaker 7: This might not make make sense to you, but I
only get like twenty units.
Speaker 3: Okay, good, as long as it's like as long as
it's like that, I have no.
Speaker 7: Referencely just in my eyebrows and looks again, fine again.
Speaker 2: You know do you think it's just you mentioned body
this morphia yesterday? That could be very real, like you know,
you sometimes see a.
Speaker 7: Person not I wouldn't say I got a little attacked,
but you and Tayte had opinions on it. When I
told you all yesterday that I was going I.
Speaker 2: Have seen too many young women start and it's like okay,
it's fine at first and then like lose themselves to it.
Where body is mor of It is the only explanation
because like.
Speaker 3: How else could you look in the mirror at the end.
Speaker 2: Of the day and be like this looks good when
you look like a cat's body?
Speaker 6: This morpha lion? Yeah, lions, lion's a cat. But you know,
forgive me.
Speaker 3: I went to public school this morning.
Speaker 2: It's where you like, I mean, I don't know, I
guess where you don't see yourself? Yeah, like you see
yourself way worse than what you are basically and in
and in one way or another, like basically, no, you
don't need more filler. You don't need more but like
you're okay, your face is fine.
Speaker 7: You're saying like, your face is fine. I want to
be great.
Speaker 3: It's fine because you already put too much filler in it.
Speaker 2: Not you. I'm talking about the hypothetical you right now.
I'm saying like like stop, I don't fill.
Speaker 5: Stop, you're still going stop. The reason for my body
dysmorphia is what I figured out.
Speaker 3: Yes you should. I mean I I try to give you.
Speaker 2: Self esteem dysmorphia, but it turns out you're just so
stupid and confident that it just all just it just
it's like water off the back. You know, you're not
even smart enough to actually be hurt by the things
I tell you all the time. It's it's it's an
incredible thing.
Speaker 7: Shout out my girl, Lauren at Wiler, She's the best.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the key is having someone that you trust
she's awesome.
Speaker 2: Uh, talking to my sisters and my mother's that's what.
That's what they have always told me. You gotta have
someone that you really trust in that seat. Well, that's good,
it's good.
Speaker 3: Before you. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I've I've there's been some times when I've looked in
the mirror, you know, you see some wrinkles.
Speaker 3: You're like, oh yeah, but then like.
Speaker 7: Whatever it did, she tried to try. You could just
do it once and like it won't do anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just don't care enough right now. If
it becomes my insecurity becomes great enough, maybe I'll dive in, Lauren,
and then next thing, you know, I'm just gonna have
way too.
Speaker 3: Much filler and.
Speaker 7: Handsome squid words.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be catman. Come here, all right, let's
talk portals. You gotta come big, Indis, let's got to
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how would UH would would?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: I had about three different ways I wanted to start
the conversation. I was maybe gonna say, could I interest
you in the top ten transfer portal player in the
number one cornerback in the entire UH transfer portal? Because
that's what you got yesterday. In Virginia Tech's Mansour's de Lane.
Speaker 6: This is a great name.
Speaker 3: It's a very regal sounding name. Man Soldier Lane, Him
and thorough Ravenscroft like a weekend together in the Humpton.
Speaker 2: But mantsor Delaine coming over a Virginia take Hashit a
lot of football at a very high level.
Speaker 3: He started thirty three games. He was a Freshoman All American.
Speaker 2: Yeah, third team All ACC last year, which I'm a
bit shocked he was third team given the raw numbers
in that he seems like these numbers will get you higher.
In twenty twenty three, man sour for four picks, seven PBUs.
Speaker 3: To force fumbles.
Speaker 2: He Lsu says he can play outside, he can play nickel,
he can play safety. Again, this is a top ten
portal player in the entire country and at least ESPN's
number one portal corner. So it's another huge addition, a
guy that you think could step in and play immediately
with one year of eligibility remaining, and more talent for
Corey Raymond to throw against that wall which that group now, guys,
has gone from weakness to to strength. I mean, you
look at bringing in the new recruits, you look at
the continued development of woodland and stamps and and and
then getting h old Cat from Florida with what I
got Jabarn's career on the mine. No no, no, not
dt Jeem Jackson. I don't know why Jabari Grimlie, but
you get Jackiem Jackson, who started Florida was the number
three corner in his class. And now you get Mansort
de Lane, like you actually have a a group where
you are starting.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to get two.
Speaker 2: Over my skis here, but it's starting to feel a
bit like DBU again in that in that cornerback room
under Corey Raymond.
Speaker 4: So this is what we talked about last week. I
think it was in chasing production and not chasing former stars. Yeah,
in the portal like that. This is the epitome of that.
You have a player that has played a lot of football.
You have players that have played a lot of football.
They've played in Power five or Power four now conferences,
and that's what you need. You need production. You need
guys that you have seen go through the fire of
what it's like to play in a major conference. You
need to add those players to what you've done in
high school recruiting. So so far, like I've really enjoyed
seeing them chase production and not stars because they've been
burned by chasing stars in the porter and not just LSU,
I mean a lot of people.
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that you don't.
Speaker 4: If there's one guy and maybe you know him, maybe
you were close in his recruiting, it came down to
you and you feel like he can't help you. But
when you chase guys, it used to be something that
they didn't turn out to be because look, you get
it wrong all the time both ways. Two stars can
be superstars, five stars can be duds, right, and so
you have to do your due diligence, and you have
to say, what do we need right now?
Speaker 6: Right now?
Speaker 4: We need somebody that's played over thirty something games at
corner in the three stars. Yeah, that's what LSU needs
right now. You don't right now where you're at your roster,
you don't really have the luxury of saying I think
this guy might.
Speaker 6: You don't have to have like you can't have a mite.
It has to be I know this guy can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean, I guess you're right.
Speaker 2: If there was one thing missing from the cornerback room
up until this point where there is an immense amount
of talent in there now, a.
Speaker 3: Very veteran leader would may be the one piece.
Speaker 2: Is no Samson Wood Leonard kind of but we're kind
of getting there if you think about them projecting forward
to next season. But yes, this is by far your
most experienced player at that position, and so he can
step in and kind of be a leader and potentially
start their day one and again has some versatility in
terms of does he win an outside job, does he
become the Nickel guy, do you make him a safety?
At times they believe that he can do all three,
so they get manned sort of laying. And then they
also get Jack Pyburn, a guy who had a bit
of a breakout half of the season for Florida. He
started the last eight games of the season and he
ended up second on the team in tackles with sixty tackles,
four tipples, one sect, one pick.
Speaker 3: I love his look as big, crazy white boy energy.
Speaker 2: It does beg the question, though, guys, are there too
many crazy white boys on the LSU defense right now?
I mean, we got three Weeks brothers, you now have Pieburn,
and you have Dylan Carpenter, who looks like he'll probably
play a bigger role next year.
Speaker 3: That's a lot, Jake.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's always good to have one
or two in the mix. But Pyburn, we'll see if
he pushes this over the top or not. But I mean,
I do love his look. He looks he looks mean
and nasty.
Speaker 4: Like all jokes aside, they need guys that are going
to go out there and be aggressive. I think this
defense needs aggression. And like we know, the Weeks brothers,
the two that have been here, West and wit are
going to give you that this player is going to get.
He also plays some full back for Florida as well,
so he was a little bit of a two way player.
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter, Jack Pibern, same guy.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I said yesterday, I do think more
people could play both ways, and then no coaches just
don't ask him to do.
Speaker 8: So.
Speaker 4: Look, he had some he had some interesting demands of Florida,
you know, to be guaranteed to play on third down.
I think it was like sixty five thousand dollars per month.
I mean it got out there and that was one
of the things I have to get.
Speaker 6: Do you have those ta pulled up?
Speaker 3: Don't love? I can get them.
Speaker 2: I think I can kind of take the crazy white boys.
It's a little more prima Donna.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, so you judged the book by its cover.
Speaker 7: I actually yesterday when we met Jack Pieburn, I said,
go get every psycho white boy in the portal somebody.
That's what. So somebody commented on end they're like psychosis
would cause the linebackers to blitz, often leaving the receivers
wide open on the crossing routes. Just saying so, I
mean you could have a point here.
Speaker 3: I will say this. The edge group is starting to
fill out.
Speaker 2: Now. You know, you get Butler, you get Pieburn. We're
still very excited about Relford. Do you think I would
have him? Maybe it's kind of a lead dog to
grab one of those starting spots. You have Dylan Carpenter.
And this is a group that becomes more exciting because
of Kevin Peeples. Kevin people's one of the offseason darlings.
And look at the leap that Swinson, look at the
leap that Savian Jones took under Kevin Peeples, and understand
that whatever you've seen out of Piburn and Butler and
everybody else to this point, that a potential leap could
be there as well because of what a coach Kevin
Peeples is. So I have it.
Speaker 3: I have the Pieburn demands.
Speaker 5: If you want to hear it is a list of
demands in Florida forty five thousand dollars a month in
a nil payments, playing time requirements such as a starting
position in full time, third down edgresher responsibilities.
Speaker 3: I mean, does that mean that elis you promise him.
Speaker 4: That I don't know, but that like that's whenever he
committed to LSU. That's one of the things that I
certainly remember. You know, I was talking about this with
a couple of different people, and it's like, oh, wow, man,
you won't guarantee playing time.
Speaker 6: I just I don't. I don't know that anybody can
guarantee that.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if that was like, hey, I'm
really unhappy at Florida. If you want me to stay here,
like you have to sweeten the pot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, just make a situation like untenable so
that you can be like, well, they wouldn't give me
one one one. I mean, I don't know, because I
mean I'm not guaranteeing him every third down he's gonna
be on the field.
Speaker 3: I mean unless he's an absolute dog if he earns it.
Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, if you prove you're the best pass using
an option, yes, I'm not gonna put you out there
if somebody else proves to be better than you.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Ed Just finders always do have a little wide.
Speaker 2: Receiver in them. I guess you know, they're a little
it can be a little Prima Donna sometimes. God, the
things I would do for forty five thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm. Yeah, I'm just in there thinking like they're
not they are.
Speaker 3: There are many They are getting.
Speaker 6: Forty five thousand dollars a month for.
Speaker 3: Four tiffles and one cent.
Speaker 6: My god, that's like it's like a most professional money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's wild. We had done that demands takes
away a little bit of my excitement. But we'll see,
we'll see.
Speaker 6: Well changes the air to who you thought he was?
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, Well, did y'all hear the uh? You remember
Michael Hudson?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 5: Everybody wanted him from Texas Tech. He's going to a
and m did y'all hear yesterday? What came out his
These were rumors about what he had demanded in an
il now seven hundred k up front for a one
year deal, a separate nil deal, three cars for family members,
a personal driver in a Cadillac SUV that would drive
Micah to and from practice, family hotel, and travel arrangements
which would allow up to ten family members to attend
away games. And for medical injuries, Micah Hudson and Micah
Hudson alone is the only one that could clear him
to play. Oh now, these are all rumored, but that
that came out yesterday and everyone is talking about it
and the fact that he went to A and M
like they're also stupid enough to do.
Speaker 3: It, so like there might be a little bit of
truth to it. I want to golden toilet. No, I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't know that uh.
Speaker 3: What it was, and take that with a very heavy
brain of salt. Again, the very heavy grad assault also confirmed.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm giving too much credit to Mike Elco, but
that doesn't feel like the Mike Elko culture at Texas
A and M.
Speaker 3: For whatever that's worth. That's that's like Lincoln Riley, sure,
mikeel Maybe not.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, But the bottom line is another couple
big additions out of the portal yesterday for l s U.
And coming up next we want to talk about, uh
the kind of larger piece that it speaks to about
coach Kelly, the staff and their ability to adapt given
the evidence in front of their face. And while that
boats off in the future, coming up next here and
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the best morning sports show around sorta.
Speaker 3: It's off the bench with Hester and Tibop Dyer.
Speaker 8: I want a hip, a botta must to play with
and enjoy. I want a hip for bottomus for Christmas.
I don't think Santa Claus will mind you. He won't
after use a dirty chimney flu. Just bring him through
the front door. That's the easy thing to do. I
can see me you.
Speaker 2: Chirley Temple knew that hippopotami were the most dangerous land
mammal in the world. Would you sing this song writing hippopotamus?
Your house would be incredibly dangerous, potentially resulting death of.
Speaker 3: Your entire family. Shirley, did you ever watch Chirley Temple
growing up?
Speaker 2: No? No, no.
Speaker 3: I had an old Cheerley Temple movie that I was
obsessed with called Heidi. Here's the Heidi, Dude.
Speaker 6: You think Joey Hester was rolling out Shirley Temple video.
Speaker 2: It's pretty old school, so I thought, maybe, bro. I mean,
what that's like, that's like like like like fifties, like forties.
Speaker 3: I feel like, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I drank Shirley Temples like animal crackers in my Rogers.
Speaker 3: I've heard that song was in my soup.
Speaker 7: I don't know that.
Speaker 5: We'll tell you this song here might be the worst
Christmas song ever made Christmas, Not sure at all.
Speaker 3: It's a bad song.
Speaker 6: It's not very good.
Speaker 2: Kid, but I was running out of like it's for kids,
and also I don't want to hear that. There are
twenty four to seven Christmas stations that go on for
a month and.
Speaker 7: A half, okay, and I don't listen to any of them.
Speaker 6: You can.
Speaker 3: You can do this. You live in a day and
age where you can just google Christmas list.
Speaker 2: That's what I do. You know, I haven't even heard
two Front Teeth, Okay, I haven't heard Hark the Herald
Angels sing. I haven't heard Silver Bells. Okay, go on
for for days here, there's a lot joy to the world.
Speaker 3: I think I did play that one Silver Bells though,
that's what I forget about. It's a good one. It's
a good one. I just forget about it.
Speaker 6: If it's Elvis, where are you Christmas?
Speaker 3: Still haven't heard that?
Speaker 1: Um?
Speaker 7: Yeah, well then just give me songs and I'll just
play all right, cool.
Speaker 6: I'm in I can't real quick, Tita.
Speaker 4: You mentioned somebody was talking about getting excited for a
portal edition in the chat. And also they try to
bring up names like Douce Chestnut and Omar Space.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'll also remind you Douce Chestnut had some off
the field stuff, but went back to Syracuse and was
starting free safety for them and graded out uh in
the seventies.
Speaker 6: At free safety for Syracuse, who what won nine games?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Right, okay, so dust it actually did pretty well. Omar
Spates starts at linebacker for the LA Rams right now, Yeah,
so very good. Omar Spates wasn't the problem. Matt House
was the problem. Yeah, So like that was the issue.
Omar Spates went from undrafted to starting for the Los
Angeles Rams, who are playing pretty well right now in
the NFL. Right, it's got to match up with everybody,
players and coaches alike. So I'm not going to throw
that on the players. When Deuce Chestnut goes back to
Syracuse starts at free safety actually a position change, and
plays well, and then, like I said, Omar is starting
for the LA Rams. Omar Spates didn't forget how to
play football, he just got Mat House.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and honestly, that is something that with
all of the portal additions becomes it makes it more exciting, right.
It's like we just talked about the edge Jack Pieburn
and Jamari Butler or saw a guys that can start
their numbers are.
Speaker 3: Not overwhelmingly good.
Speaker 2: This isn't like getting like Nick Scrdon after he led
the Big Ten in sacks or something like that. But
because of Kevin Peeples, I become more excited about the
potential of those guys. When you're telling me you're giving
Corey Raymond the amount of talent that you've given him
this offseason, both in trancers and in the signing class,
I get excited about that because I just saw an
entire season of football where I saw a defensive staff that,
unlike two seasons ago where it seemed as if the
staff dragged down the production of the players, last year,
I feel like they pretty much maximized what they could
get out of that group. Maybe the one guy I'd
like to see get some more resources would be Bo
Davis because he did such a good job with that
interior defensive line. And is that the one area we
haven't really seen in movement yet, like both kind of
major recruits and and and and like transfer portal, you
don't we just like interior justin tier, not just interior,
because everywhere else you drew checking boxes right, tight end,
check wide receiver. We'll talk about running back in a
little bit potentially, but you haven't done that yet either
uh O line, uh D line. You're in on a
couple of safeties that are coming to visit interior. D
line is somewhere where maybe maybe he's like the last
area to attack.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's gonna be difficult to bring in
maybe some of that top in young talent because you
got a dominant McKinley who had two sacks his last game.
He was a former five star. You kind of know
he's gonna have a path to the field. Yeah, Jacob
and Gillery comes back as well. That's going to you know,
obviously get a lot of playing time. Uh you still
want to add I think there, but it's it feels
more solid than it did certainly a year ago. Yeah, yeah,
for sure, because you're losing what you're losing Joe Paie
as he was a player.
Speaker 3: That is Paris, Yes, Paris Shan is gone, Suggs is gone,
Thugs is gone, and Sucks we get him on bro back.
So look, it's it's the whatever I don't need to.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm kind of mudding the waters by over talking
about the simple point is I believe so much in
this defensive staff that every player you get becomes more
exciting because I feel like these guys will maximize him
as opposed to screwing up a deuced chestnut or especially
like a Nomar Spates.
Speaker 3: And speaking of.
Speaker 2: Maximizing and adapting, that is something that look, I am
a firm believer in being objective and being very critical
when criticism is due, but giving credit when credit is due.
And there is no doubt that how Brian Kelly and
Lsu chose to approach roster building and the transfer portal
here at the beginning the last couple of years was
a strategic misstep. I don't know if they felt burned
by having to go so heavy in the portal year one,
or maybe they just felt that that was never going
to be the ideal. Right, I mean they told us, right,
they want to just kind of fill in the corners
with the portal. They thought they could go cheap, thought
they could go lean and mean on this last roster
and it blew up in their face in some ways.
But instead of being stubborn and falling prey to the
Funk Coast fealth. Here favorite Eco econ one on one
concept Jake. They looked at everything. They looked at how
the market has developed, how other teams have been successful
in this air, and they said, okay, you know what
we were wrong. We have to spend and we have
to attack the portal for players that we think will
play immediately, not just depth pieces. And to be frank,
they're killing it. I mean if you go to an
ESPN dot com rae now and you look at the
top portal teams in the entire country, Yes, like old
misses right there. Interestingly, like Minnesota has had a really
good time, but there's LSU.
Speaker 3: Here's what Max Olso said quote.
Speaker 2: The Tigers have already collected quite a few high impact
players for twenty five. On offense, they landed one of
the SEC's most productive playmakers and Barry and Brown, number
three wide receiver on ESPN transer rankings. They also found
their next starting tight end and Ou transfer Bauer Sharp,
and might have secured their quarterback of the future Missippi
State transfer Michael van Buren. They landed another top ten
transfer Monday in Virginia texs Mansord de Lane our number
one ring cornerback to go along with talented former Florida
corner Jakeem Jackson and to proven edge defenders in Jamari
Butler and jack Pieburn. And that's still with multiple visits
on the way from safeties, still attacking o' linemen. Still,
Like I said, I think you'll probably get in some
D line battles as well. So tell us you realizing
we were wrong, We're not going to continue to be wrong.
We're going to change and that does bode well for
the future.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they knew they had to change, they knew they
had to add more bodies. They did really, really well.
Like you said, the first year they got here, the
guys that they added, they weren't household names, but they
were so solid for LSU, It's exactly.
Speaker 6: What you needed. And then year number two they kind
of changed.
Speaker 4: They did go star chasing, and they brought in guys
that out of high school were supposed to be elite players,
not just good players.
Speaker 6: Didn't turn out that way.
Speaker 4: Year three a little bit of a mixed bag, But
I think they realized that also because I think they
were worried about, like what it would do in.
Speaker 6: The locker room, like if it would fracture the locker room.
Speaker 4: And I think that everybody now realizes that this generation
of players is just different. They don't care about who's new,
who's old, who's coming, who's going. It is certainly more
of a pro locker room, where like you know in
the pros on Mondays, every time you walk in, somebody's
out there trying out at different positions.
Speaker 6: That's just the way it is. And you're ross is going.
Speaker 4: To change week to week, not not every week, but
most weeks it does. And so it's not really that
worry anymore. Like you can bring guys in, it's not
going to fracture the locker room like maybe it would
have when we were playing.
Speaker 6: And so I think they all.
Speaker 4: Realize that now, and they realize that they have to
add veteran guys because when you look at what they
were able to do on defense, I mean, how many
true freshmen had to play for you, Like you had
to count on a ton of true freshmen. And Brian
Kelly talked about it like we got this many true
freshmen that are on this trip and dressing and we're
counting on them, like that's gonna be great for those
players going into this year. But there was a little
bit that you were missing with the veteran guys that
you didn't bring in, and so now you're trying to
figure out how can we match veteran guys from all
these other schools that are in the portal like everybody
else is doing with our elite high school creiting.
Speaker 6: We had another top ten class, and that's what you
have to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're gonna have it like when you have
top ten classes like LSU has had every year, you're
going to have attrition, yeah, because you're going to have
talented players that aren't seeing the field as much as
they want and are worth more to other teams than
they are to you in your current roster setup.
Speaker 3: So you have to be willing to invest in attaging Beforto.
Speaker 2: Look, objectively, it's been a really good portal season for
Els shoot as far, and it's not over yet. We
can get to some more targets and whatnot. But if
you want to talk a little bit about Van Buren
next game as well, let's get to a couple of comments.
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Speaker 2: So I want to talk a little bit about Michael
van Buren because or it's more maybe it's also more
about Garrett Nusmeyer, because one of the big portal takeaways
thus far over this last week has been, uh, if
you prove to even be like, if you proved to
be let's say, a good nut solids the step of that,
if you prove to be a good or even very
good starter, and you have a year of Elgabille. Have quarterback,
you are going to get paid. So here are some
of the names of guys who have alread announced their
coming back to twenty five the schools they're starting for
right now. You have Kevin Jenny's SMU of course, Garrett
nousmyerde Lsu, Kien Drones at Virginia Tech, Jalen Daniels at Kansas,
rock Obect Iowa State, Brandon Soresby Cincinnati, Luke Altmeyer Illinois,
and CJ. Bailliott NC State. What's interesting about this is
you hear those names and you're probably like, Okay, what's
your reaction when you hear those names.
Speaker 3: Like you said solid to good quarterback? Yeah, like yeah, okay, yeah,
a great year.
Speaker 5: But like Altmeyer he was solid, Bailey was good, Brendan
Soresby fine, but like you.
Speaker 2: Know, and like rock O beck Ton of potentially young guy,
he's solid. The team did well, Jalen Daniels, that's kind
of disappointing. Karen Drones, I mean Virginia Tech was disappointing
team this year.
Speaker 3: Well guess what.
Speaker 2: According to ESPN sources, the price for re signing these
guys north of a million for every single one.
Speaker 5: So so like Brendan Sowarsby basically got a million dollars
to go make the Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Yes that's wild, I know so, but but that's.
Speaker 2: The market, right, And it shows you what's at stake
for a guy like Van Buren. And it also shows
you how young this market is, because what's crazy about
this is that the other thing that the sources are
saying is that this is a kind of astronomical raise
for most of these guys. I mean, take this with
a grain of salt, because my numbers could be a
bit off one way or another. But from when I've
heard on us, NUSS could be looking at like a
fourteen or fifteen x. Potentially, they're saying that most these
guys this is at least a four x for what
they were making just a year ago. So if you
can get a starting job and prove to be the starter,
you'll make a million dollars. If your team does well,
there's great economic reward to be had. So it makes
sense for Michael van Buren then to come here and say, okay,
you know what, I have a year to learn and develop,
and then if I start and I do well, I'll
be a millionaire. Here's what Van Buren had to say.
It's the LSU brand and everything they were talking about
from a development standpoint, I felt like it was the
best fit for me. And he was asked about nus
Meyer being expected to start, and Van Buren said, quote,
I'll do whatever it takes to help the team win,
no matter if I'm on the field or if I'm
off the field. And then they asked him about developing
and eventually becoming the start to say, quote, I could
like like Nusted right waiting. I can picture myself being
able to do the same thing, working as hard as
I can, developing myself and being able to do the
same or even Moore.
Speaker 3: So Van Buren.
Speaker 2: Solid head on the shoulders kind of reminds me of
what Dante Moore did a bit where he started at
UCLA five star out of high school, kind of went
through a lot of those growing pains, said you know what,
maybe sitting right now and learning is the best thing
for me. And so he goes to Oregon. He sits
behind Dylan Gabriel this year. Now he's in line. You
would think, I don't know how he's doing in practicized
Maybe they don't. Maybe he doesn't have it, you know,
I don't know, but you would think he'll be Oregon
starter next year. So I think a pretty shrewd move
by Van Buren here to move into the space that
Bryce Underwood occupied. And who knows if this pays dividends,
but it's something to watch over time, over the next
couple of years.
Speaker 3: And again, as I said, if you do well, you
become a millionaire. It is that simple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's crazy, man. I mean
we were talking about Jake, but like Jennings, Nuts, Karen Drones,
Jaylen Daniels, rockebec Soresby Altmeyer, CJ. Bailey, all these guys
resigning with their schools in Cournet ESPN. Yeah, all making
uh you know a million or more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I know a lot of people lie like,
oh my gosh, how could they pay that guy in
Because in today's landscape, if you have a guy that
you trust, if you have a guy that you feel
like can go out there and help you win games,
if you feel like he is going to take care
of the foot like all those things, they are going
to reward you.
Speaker 6: And I saw somebody in the chest saying, no way, Altmeyer.
He is getting that. Altmar went nine and three at Illinois.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of their.
Speaker 6: Losses were he gets really good this year compared to
last year. It was very good this year. He was
a big time recruit out of Startingville. They had like
a really good season.
Speaker 4: Their losses they lost to Penn State, they lost to Oregon,
and they Austin Minnesota, but they also had some good wins.
And so for Illinois and Belamo, they're like, yeah, we'll
take more of that. We'll take more of the same,
Like we are stabilized at the quarterback position. He threw
for twenty five hundred yards twenty one touchdowns. Yes, we
will give you a bag to stay here, because we
don't know what it would look like if you weren't here.
So even if you don't think that player's worth a
million dollars, he's worth a million dollars to Illinois.
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Speaker 2: Con Bose asking if the and you maybe just leave
us playing for a little bit of londer Bose asking
if in the with revenue sharing, does some of the
spending soot out because you're kind of laughing in the
chat about how like.
Speaker 3: Remember when they told us that we can't afford to
pay the players? Seems like a long time ago.
Speaker 2: In theory, yes, it does so down with revenue sharing.
But this story didn't get a lot of traction. But
Ross Dellinger Dellinger, Ellinger, who I'm playing well, Garrett Dellinger,
Ross Dellinger, thank you.
Speaker 3: Ross Dellinger.
Speaker 2: Jake tweeted to me a couple of weeks ago that
I feel like just kind of came and went, but
has major implications for what happens next. Where Already for
state senators have written letters to their schools saying that, hey,
if you all try to stop boosters from giving money,
that's in violation of state law. And there's plenty of
lawsuits written. So I mean, maybe revenue sharing changes it.
But I think that's a big, big maybe I have
no idea. Also, Aaron was telling me this, Have you
heard this?
Speaker 6: Just real quick?
Speaker 4: Those state senators like they want they know it's good
for the schools in their state to be successful, like
when they have a game across the Ponderoso on Saturday night.
They know what it does for the state. A lot
of times they went to that school as well well.
And is there a lot of benefits for them for
the program to be at a high level. Again, we
live in an incredibly divisive political age. Is there anything
more bipartisan than making it easier to pay the players?
Speaker 2: Like the bills get passed immediately, right, you're like, oh wait,
Florida pass this. Okay, well we're passing it. Oh wait, jey.
And it's like these guys can't agree on anything, but
they can agree on this, soh yeah, I got major
questions with that. Have you heard this, Jake, that out
of the twenty million or you know, twenty one whatever,
it's going to be earmarked that thirteen goes to football,
because that is something else that we haven't really talked
about a lot. The whole twenty does not go to football, right,
it has to be split amongst all of the athletes.
But Aaron coming up with that number thirteen yesterday, I
haven't seen that.
Speaker 4: I ensure view a team that's not going to be
like an absolute number that's thirteen. I think the thought
is that that's what it's going to be for these
major programs of the twenty that these major programs, when
you're looking at for percentages, will take about thirteen million
and spread out.
Speaker 3: Now, l they have a max cap.
Speaker 2: That they can commit to a sport, like could somebody
commit fifteen in football they wanted to that?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I do know like when you're
talking about a place like LSU, you have to think
like baseball is going to take more here than it
wouldn't a lot of places like basketball Kentucky is gonna
take a lot more than it would at other places,
So those other secondary sports that is secondary in a
lot of places, but you know, a primary sport like here,
like LSU baseball, does it make the revenue?
Speaker 6: LSU football does know.
Speaker 4: We know that, but we know there's a desire to
be great in baseball and it is one of the
few money makers in college baseball like that, might you know,
the math might change in something like that. Women's basketball
is going to take you know, a larger portion here
than of what other places.
Speaker 2: Jake so Taylor brought this up in the chat this morning,
and I want to get your opinion on it.
Speaker 3: You look at.
Speaker 2: We're looking at the transfer portal, looking at positions. You
still any guys, I still think you know the trenches.
I'll shoos in on some guys, but O line still
in the area to explore.
Speaker 3: Do you explore running back?
Speaker 2: I mean, there's an interesting amount of running backs in
the portal right now. You got Justice Haines out in
there from Alabama. Will Shawn Parker from Wazoo who had
a very good year fluff bothwell, remember him, he's in there.
Quentin Joyner from yeah, from South Alabama. Amatt Hardy from
ULM who was excellent. Do you think Elise, who explores
a running back, I.
Speaker 6: Don't think you have to. I'm gonna be honest. I
think I think you do have enough.
Speaker 4: You have Kayden Dorham coming back, who's going to be
as highly touted as any maybe sophomore running back out
there from what he did as a freshman and being
banged up really a large majority of his freshman year.
Speaker 6: You lose Josh Williams. We don't know what he's gonna
happen with Caleb Jackson. But you also you bring in.
Speaker 4: Not that I know of, you bring in top five
backs as well as freshmen, two of them, two top
five backs to the high school.
Speaker 6: True.
Speaker 4: And if there's any position, as we saw last year,
we've seen many times, there's any position that can immediately
make an impact, it is the running back position from
a freshman. And so you at least have three guys
that you're going to be counting on that are currently
on your roster. And so I don't think you add
a top tier kind of guy because then that's resources
in a place where you're pretty resourceful already.
Speaker 3: It makes sense.
Speaker 6: Now if you want to bring a fullback, No, that's.
Speaker 4: The that's like the that's the lead blockers, right, yeah, yeah,
for sure you can think about that. Yeah, just and
also like you know, bringing a tight end that can
block Hey Funs.
Speaker 2: Funs already mentioned TJ Finley going to two line. We
can talk about that in a bit. But happy belated
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