WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.040 Good morning, everybody. Corey used bloody history. So we're going 2 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:08.240 to continue on with David Ferry because well, David Ferry 3 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:11.839 is the center of the investigation. The documents we're continuing 4 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:18.160 on today are from the Eastern Airlines investigation, which is 5 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:21.719 a huge portion of this total file. But we're going 6 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:28.239 to continue. November nineteen sixty two Synopsis continued efforts continuing 7 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:32.920 to confirm association and obtain movies of activities pending details. 8 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:38.600 Investigation in this matter is predicated upon a requested date 9 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:42.320 November one, nineteen sixty two from mister Thomas Tolan, two 10 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:45.320 forty five East fifty fifth Street, New York, New York 11 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:50.000 to mister Charles R. Carson, Southern Research Company, Inc. Eight 12 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:53.719 to eight Maritime Building, New Orleans, Louisiana, requesting that organization 13 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:57.439 determine the history and status of criminal charges pending in 14 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:02.880 Jefferson Parish, Louisiana against the former Eastern Airlines pilot, Captain 15 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:07.079 David William Ferry, three point thirty one Atherton Drive, Metaie, Louisiana. 16 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:11.879 Mister Tolan advised that Ferry was employed as a pilot 17 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:14.959 for Eastern Airlines Inc. Until his arrest by Jefferson Parish 18 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:19.000 Authorities on August eighth, nineteen sixty one, for indecent exposure. 19 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:22.359 An additional charge of contributing to the delinquency of a 20 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:25.599 minor was filed there. August twenty second, nineteen sixty one, 21 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:28.879 information has been received that these pending charges are to 22 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:33.400 be dismissed, that Ferry intends to apply Eastern for reinstatement 23 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:36.480 to flying duties as well as for back pay. The 24 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:39.519 history and status of these charges, as well as information 25 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:42.480 concerning why they are to be dismissed, was requested by 26 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:47.319 mister Tolan. He also requested that, where feasible, complaining witnesses 27 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:51.959 be interviewed for background of the case and to determine 28 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:54.120 if any pressure has been exerted by anyone to have 29 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:57.400 the case dismissed. A complete surveillance of the subject was 30 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:00.920 requested in order to determine his president and ployment activities 31 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:04.200 and to determine if these activities might show a behavior 32 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.799 pattern which would disqualify Ferry for a reinstatement with Eastern Airlines. 33 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:15.960 November second, nineteen sixty two, George L. Risley reviewed the 34 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:20.360 central records file of the Identification Bureau Headquarters Louisiana State 35 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:23.439 Police Baton Rouge, Louisiana. The following criminal record was obtained 36 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:26.919 for David William Ferry FBI number eight eight three sixty 37 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:30.879 seven B Louisiana State Police five to five three eighty 38 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:36.800 sixty one, contributor of fingerprints. As we have a list 39 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:39.479 here is they got three charges for David Ferry contributing 40 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:44.120 to the delinquency of a minor in decent behavior, crimes 41 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.159 against nature contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile, and 42 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:50.960 then those were both in August of sixty one. Then 43 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:54.319 in February of sixty two, you've got a extortion charge 44 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:59.039 pending at New Orleans, Louisiana. The identification files of the 45 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:02.000 New Orleans Police Department were reviewed November one, nineteen sixty 46 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:05.879 two by Ronald Hubner and an index card located which 47 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:09.439 reflects David William Ferry, White Mail born March twenty eighth, 48 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:13.599 nineteen eighteen, was arrested under police item number B seven 49 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:17.199 nine oh four Dash six two on February sixteenth, nineteen 50 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:21.000 sixty two, by Patrolman Roland Fournier and Charles Jeanneaux of 51 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.680 the First District, and that Ferry was subsequently charged on 52 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:26.000 Affidavid one seven to three Dash eight nine to one 53 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:30.919 with violation of Louisiana Revised Statues fourteen, Article sixty six, 54 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:35.520 Paragraph two relative to extortion. This charge is presently pending. 55 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:37.840 An effort was made at this time to review the 56 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:40.759 actual investigative file, but officials advised the file could not 57 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:43.439 be released for review without the sign permission of the 58 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.400 Judge of the Juvenile Court or the District Attorney. No 59 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:50.199 further effort was made to see the file through these sources. 60 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.199 November fifth, nineteen sixty two, records of the New Orleans 61 00:03:54.240 --> 00:04:00.360 Retailer's Credit Bureau were examined by E. M. Davis reflect 62 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:04.240 the following information. There was no personal form in file 63 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:07.039 on subject Ferry. He has assigned code number six hundred. 64 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:11.479 As of September nineteen fifty seven, his address was listed 65 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:15.039 as forty six fifteen Orleans Avenue, employed by Eastern Airlines. 66 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:18.319 Former addresses were listed as thirteen oh two Clay Street, 67 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:22.680 two oh nine Venette seven oh four Airline Park. As 68 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:25.199 of April sixty two, his address was listed as thirty 69 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:31.959 three thirty Louisiana Avenue, employed by GWG. Ray Gill, presumably well. 70 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:35.319 It says G. W. Ray Guild, presumably Attorney g. Ray Gill. 71 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:40.199 Previous address listed as three thirty one Atherton Drive, Metaie, Louisiana. 72 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:44.040 Two news articles captioned as follows Metori man arrested again, 73 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:49.360 dated February seventeenth, nineteen sixty two. Fery innocent of one 74 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:54.959 charge dated February twenty eighth, nineteen sixty two. Judge Leo W. McCune, 75 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:59.560 Jefferson Parish Juvenile Court was presiding judge on the latter case. 76 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:03.399 The following claims for collection were in the above file. 77 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:16.800 F six hundred June thirteenth, nineteen sixty two. Doctor David W. Ferry, 78 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.160 thirty three thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway, New Orleans, fifteen, Louisiana 79 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:24.399 Uptown eight nine to one nine three oh nine Southern 80 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:28.000 Bell Telephone Company one oh four point eighty three employment 81 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:31.360 list is research Psychologist. F six hundred David W. Ferry 82 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:34.800 on October twenty six, sixty two, Louisiana Power and Light 83 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:38.800 Metai fifteen twenty eight address thirty three thirty Louisiana Avenue, 84 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:41.680 New Orleans, twenty five, Louisiana, and a bunch of addresses 85 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:45.360 here criss cross directory reflects. Telephone assigned to thirty three 86 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:49.240 thirty Louisiana Avenue Parkway is t W nine tosh seven 87 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:52.240 oh four to eight. Call made to this number reflects 88 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:54.319 its subject is unknown and this telephone number is not 89 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:58.000 at the above address any longer. The following was observed 90 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:01.560 at three thirty one Atherton Drive, Metaial November second, third, 91 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:05.120 and fifth, nineteen sixty two. Nineteen fifty four Oldsmobile Sedan 92 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:08.040 parked in yard at the above address bearing nineteen sixty 93 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:10.920 two Louisiana license three two five sixty four four. The 94 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:14.639 following autos were parked next door at lakeside the nineteen 95 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:19.199 sixty two automobile or Oldsmobile Light Green nineteen sixty two, 96 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:22.120 Louisiana license ninet eighty one two sixty one, Ford Fairlane 97 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:27.240 nineteen sixty two, Louisiana License two one two six six eight, 98 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:30.959 Ford station Wagon nineteen sixty two Louisiana License two one 99 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:33.240 two sixty sixty seven. None of the cars above were 100 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:36.160 registered to David Ferry. No activity of a pertinent nature 101 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:38.279 was observed at the address on any of the above dates. 102 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:42.759 On November fifth, nineteen sixty two, a secretary in g Ray. 103 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:46.240 Gill's office telephonically advised that Ferry was employed by that office, 104 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:48.720 but she didn't know his address or telephone number. It 105 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:51.079 should be noted that the information was received from another 106 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:53.839 source that Gill was acting as attorney for Ferry, and 107 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:56.680 Ferry was doing investigative work for Gil in partial payment 108 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:59.959 of his fee. A name check of the Motor Vehicle Division, 109 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:03.480 State of Louisiana, November seventh, nineteen sixty two, by George L. 110 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:08.240 Risley reflects the following data concerning the subject. Title number 111 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:10.600 M two four one one nine five five is issued 112 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:14.879 to David W. Ferry, three point thirty one Atherton Drive, Metie, 113 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:18.839 Louisiana for a nineteen sixty Ford Tutor Sedan motor number 114 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:22.040 zero A three one V one five oh seven three 115 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:25.120 five purchased as a used vehicle June second, nineteen sixty 116 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:27.759 for the amount of two five one eight point five six. 117 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.560 This car was financed by General Finance Corporation, forty one 118 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:35.240 thirty five South Carrollton Avenue, New Orleans, Louisiana. The nineteen 119 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:39.639 sixty two Louisiana registration for this car is three hundred 120 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:45.360 six oh one. The alphabetical listings. The Motor Vehicle division 121 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:48.519 also reflect a nineteen fifty nine Ford is currently registered 122 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:52.120 to a David W. Ferry Junior, whose current address is 123 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:56.199 shown as US Marine Corps USS mathis AKA ninety six, 124 00:07:56.800 --> 00:08:00.560 San Francisco, California. Ferry Junior is listed as a lieutenant 125 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:03.519 in the US Marine Corps. His home address on the 126 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:09.680 auto title is eleven Prospects Street, Alexandria, Louisiana. This car 127 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:14.079 as motor number whatever and bear's sixty two license plate Louisiana, 128 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:16.680 nineteen forty five. I'm sorry nine four five five to 129 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:21.240 two two. On November seventh, nineteen sixty two, MISSUS L. C. 130 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:25.199 Champaigne account Clerk, General Finance Corporation, four one three five 131 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:28.639 South Carrollton Avenue furnished the following information from a record's 132 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:32.519 concerning the subject's account. Ferry purchased the above described nineteen 133 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:35.720 sixty Ford and financed it through their office on June second, 134 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:38.879 nineteen sixty. He borrowed twenty five hundred and eighteen fifty 135 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:41.759 six and was to repay it in thirty six monthly 136 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:45.399 installments of sixty nine ninety six each. His last payment 137 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:49.519 recorded on this account was on September twenty sixth, nineteen 138 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:51.559 sixty two, in his present balance as eight eight eight 139 00:08:51.559 --> 00:08:56.360 point five to four. Missus Champagne stated that as of 140 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:59.519 October thirtieth, nineteen sixty two, he was shown residing at 141 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:03.000 thirty three three Aty Louisiana Avenue, New Orleans, Louisiana. File 142 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:06.960 reflects no relatives or associates of the subject, and Missus 143 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:09.320 Champagne says that she rated the account as a very 144 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:12.360 poor credit risk, and added the file contains about eight 145 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:15.679 pages of collection papers and procedures they have had to 146 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:18.279 institute to date in an effort to have them repay 147 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:22.000 the loan. Information was received from a confidential source on 148 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:25.039 November sixth, nineteen sixty two, that he'd been discussing another 149 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:28.519 matter with Eastern Airlines Captain George H. Griner. That date, 150 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:31.759 in the name of Ferry was brought up. Griner related 151 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:34.399 he had been approached on or about November fifth, nineteen 152 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:38.320 sixty two by Jefferson Parish District Attorney Frank Landridge attorney 153 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:41.480 g Ray Gill, and a Mister Crusche, father of Eric Cruschet. 154 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:45.360 Griner said these persons had asked that Ferry being reinstated 155 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:49.080 in his duties with Eastern Griner was informed by this 156 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:51.879 group that the charges presently pending in Jefferson Parish against 157 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:54.799 the subject were to be dismissed, and these people implied 158 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:56.759 that the charge of intimidation against the subject in New 159 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:59.200 Orleans in Orleans Parish was slated to be dismissed in 160 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:01.879 view of the reluctant of the complaining witness, Eric Cruche. 161 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:06.759 To substantiate his original statement, Captain Griner told the source 162 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:08.919 he had advised this group the matter of the subject's 163 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:11.960 reinstatement was not within the realm of his authority. In 164 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:15.919 view of the above information, Orleans Parish District Attorney Rudolph 165 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:18.919 Becker the Third was contacted November seventh, nineteen sixty two, 166 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.240 and advised that his office presently has no intention of 167 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:25.240 dismissing the pending charge against very relative to intimidation and 168 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:29.039 extortion against the complaining witness, Eric Cruche, regardless of Cruchet's 169 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:32.200 feelings at the present time. Becker stated that in view 170 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:35.000 of the statement previously furnished by Crusche in this matter, 171 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.360 the District Attorney intended to proceed in due course and 172 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:40.399 allow him the opportunity of repudiating said statement under oath 173 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:44.840 if cruche so desired. November seven, sixty two, Lieutenant Alvin C. 174 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:49.000 Meister sixty eight, twenty four, louis the fourteenth Street, was 175 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:53.000 interviewed at this address by Edward M. Davis. He advised 176 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:55.960 he was now assisting in the training of cadets of 177 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:01.919 the AFCAP at New Orleans Airport. He advised he was 178 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:05.360 under the command of Major Edward W. Christensen, Junior af 179 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:09.679 CAP Liaison Officer, seventeen twenty three, Masonic Temple Building Phone 180 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:12.320 five two nine two four to one one, Extension six 181 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:15.679 seven zero one, New Orleans, Louisiana. He advised that he 182 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:18.320 had known David Ferry several years, that he first knew 183 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:20.639 Ferry when Ferry had in charge of CAAP cadets at 184 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:23.200 New Orleans Airport. So far as he knew, Ferry had 185 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:25.320 never been married, had no family other than his mother, 186 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:28.159 who was possibly residing in New Orleans. The subject had 187 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:30.679 no military record known to him. See this is all 188 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.039 bullshit because he was married, he had two dependents, and 189 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.960 he was in the military reserves. So all their information 190 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:40.440 they have is bullshit. He that subject hated women, seemed 191 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:43.200 to hate Southerners, and at one time threatened to sue 192 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:45.840 him and three or more men over some insign over 193 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:48.720 which he did not name. Ferry appeared to be well 194 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.200 educated and, in his Meiser's opinion, had been educated in 195 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:55.679 the seminary school. He advised the subject allegedly has a PhD, 196 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:58.559 but this has never been confirmed. Ferry had attended school 197 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:01.840 in Cleveland, Ohio, having a double name which he could 198 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:06.639 not recall. This is possibly Western Reserve, he advised. Ferry 199 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:09.360 also allegedly attended Phoenix University, but this was not confirmed, 200 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:14.000 so Phoenix University was one of those fake colleges. He 201 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:17.399 advised a subject organized and trained CAAP Cadets in nineteen 202 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:19.720 fifty eight and thereafter at New Orleans Airport, but had 203 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:22.919 no authority to do so and no charter under FAA 204 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:26.720 for his activity. Ferry was later reported to be training 205 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:32.120 Metarie Falcons CP Cadet unit, but this also had no 206 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:35.960 federal charter to operate. Lieutenant Meister advised that anyone wearing 207 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:40.840 CAP Cadet uniforms, unless under federal charter, was in violation 208 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:44.799 of federal law. Lieutenant Meister advised that in September nineteen sixty, 209 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:48.399 someone unknown had stolen all the personnel records of the 210 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:51.039 CAAP cadets from a room used by this unit near 211 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:53.759 the New Orleans Airport. He knew a Jerry Walker, a 212 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:55.879 cadet in nineteen fifty eight, who at the time resided 213 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:59.519 on Tulane just off Claiborne. He advised that Walker was 214 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.519 now in the United States Marines. Ferry wares a toupey, 215 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:06.279 possibly self made, is a very aggressive person, highly obnoxious 216 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:09.440 at times, very influential with people. He advised that he 217 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:12.639 had heard through cadet sources whom he did not name, 218 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:17.039 that subject is possibly a homosexual. Meister advised that he 219 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:20.559 knew an individual whom he refused to name, that had 220 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.440 made the statement. If charges against the subject were dropped, 221 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:25.399 he this person would go to the district attorney and 222 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:27.240 give them enough information to put Ferry away for a 223 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:31.039 long time. Meister advised that the records of all CAAP 224 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.519 units in the New Orleans area are maintained at Billington 225 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:38.840 Air Force Base, Texas under the supervision of Colonel Paul c. Ashworth, 226 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:42.559 that all authorized units are under federal charter, and that 227 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:46.440 any others operating those other than those charters are doing 228 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:51.320 so illegally. Meister advised that shortly before Christmas nineteen sixty one, 229 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:54.679 there were two men from FAA Washington d C. Investigating 230 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:57.360 ferries pilot's status. He advised that he did not know 231 00:13:57.399 --> 00:14:00.919 the outcome of this investigation, but felt the results would 232 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:04.320 be available to the proper authority. A confidential source advice 233 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:06.720 on November seventh, nineteen sixty two, that Eric m crushe, 234 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:09.519 nine forty nine Saint Mary Street, New Orleans, had addressed 235 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:12.360 the letter dated October twentieth, nineteen sixty two, to Captain 236 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:15.399 George Griner, chief Pilot Eastern Airlines, New Orleans, in which 237 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.039 he said that charges were filed against David Ferry were 238 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:21.919 false and that actually Ferry was being framed on these charges. 239 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.440 This same source also determined that Ferry's present address is 240 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:29.679 thirty three thirty Louisiana Avenue, Parkway. Another person who will 241 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:32.399 know a. Ferri's address if he moves is Earl Prinz. 242 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:37.240 Prinz Bookkeeper five seven three five Vermillion Boulevard telephone two 243 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:39.559 eight eight one three six zero. It was determined on 244 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:41.840 November seventh, nineteen sixty two, that all records in the 245 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:44.840 New Orleans area. On airline pilots are maintained at the 246 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:49.519 FAA Airtech Center Building, Dowmon Road, near the official New 247 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:52.919 Orleans Municipal Airport, under the supervision of mister John Powell. 248 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:56.919 An attempt was made to contact mister Powell on November seventh, 249 00:14:56.960 --> 00:14:59.600 nineteen sixty two, but he was not in his office. 250 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:03.320 His secretary reviewed these indices for the subject, but was 251 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:05.919 unable to find any record for him. She advised that 252 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:08.919 the local office usually maintained a file containing the pilot's 253 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:11.879 certificate number, ratings and all the other data for a 254 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:14.320 period of two years, after which it was forwarded to 255 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:18.120 the FAA Airman Records Branch six twenty one North Robinson, 256 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:22.120 Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. She added the subject was unknown to her. 257 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:27.360 Harry Howard, attorney, eighteen oh seven, pair Marquette Building, New Orleans, 258 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.840 advised on November thirteen, sixty two that he represented Carrie 259 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.360 King in charges that grew out of the so called 260 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:36.960 Sex Ring in Jefferson Parish. This group was composed almost 261 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:39.799 entirely of juveniles. Mister Howard said he did not remember 262 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:42.320 the name David Ferry ever being mentioned in that case. 263 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:44.480 He went through his file on the case, and none 264 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:46.679 of the juveniles in that case were the same as 265 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:50.320 those mentioned in the various charges against Ferry. November fifteenth, 266 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:53.279 nineteen sixty two, an individual formerly employed as an investigator 267 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:56.799 for a federal law enforcement agency advised he once investigated 268 00:15:56.879 --> 00:15:59.639 David William Ferry in connection with Ferry's involvement in a 269 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:02.639 missing person complaint, as well as an alleged violation of 270 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:06.240 the law regarding the theft of government property. This source 271 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:09.639 advised the investigative file is no longer available to him, 272 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:11.679 nor is he in a position to testify to the 273 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.000 results of his findings. However, the following account is his 274 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:17.879 best recollection of the information he developed during the course 275 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:21.720 of his inquiry. The case was assigned in August sixty 276 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:23.960 one following a visit to the agency by the parents 277 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:27.480 of a white male juvenile whose whereabouts was unknown. In 278 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:31.039 all probability, this is the incident concerning mister and missus 279 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:35.120 Alexander Landry and their son, al Junior. Although the source 280 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:38.240 could not remember the name of the parties involved, According 281 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:40.279 to the parents, their son had been associating with the 282 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:43.200 subject to the point where he had convinced him to 283 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:45.600 be disobedient to their wishes, and Fairy made it possible 284 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:47.080 for the boy to run away from home and go 285 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:49.879 to Houston. The parents said their son had met Fairy 286 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:54.360 through activities of the Civil Air Patrol from information gained 287 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:57.480 through discussion with parents of other children who were also 288 00:16:57.519 --> 00:16:59.919 in the CAAP unit. The parents of the missing youngster 289 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.159 had come to have serious doubts as to the legal 290 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:05.039 status of the unit Ferry commanded. They had heard that 291 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:08.519 this CAAP unit was without official sanction. The source advised 292 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:11.559 that before any extensive inquiry was made into the boy's whereabouts, 293 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:14.079 he was advised by the parents they had been successful 294 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:17.759 in locating the boy through persons associated with Ferry. Information 295 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:20.279 was received by this source to Ferry allegedly had taken 296 00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:22.960 and kept in his possessions some film or movies that 297 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:25.319 were technically the property of the United States Air Force. 298 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:27.880 Inquiry was then made to determine whether or not Ferry 299 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:31.400 was involved in the theft of government property. As this time, 300 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:34.440 the source interviewed the Air Force liaison officer for the 301 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:36.880 Louisiana wing of the Civil Air Patrol in an effort 302 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:41.319 to gain background information concerning Ferry. This officer, a captain, 303 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:44.200 whose name is not remembered by the source, advised that 304 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:47.279 Ferri's association with the CAAP was not legitimate and his 305 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:51.279 removal from that group had been requested and affected approximately 306 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:53.680 two years previously as a result of the several incidents 307 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:55.359 which occurred in the summer of nineteen fifty eight or 308 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:58.559 nineteen fifty nine during the patrol summer encampment at Keesler 309 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:05.960 Air Force Base, Mississippi hold On. So these guys were 310 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:07.680 going there. I know they went in nineteen sixty, but 311 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:11.319 they were going to Keisler all the way back in 312 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:15.519 fifty eight or fifty nine. Oswald was there in fifty seven. 313 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:22.160 This needs to be there's something there at Keisler and 314 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:24.880 the CAAP and Oswald we got. This needs to be. 315 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:28.440 This needs to be looked into further. On that occasion, 316 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:31.599 the members were assigned to various barracks. The senior advisers, 317 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:34.599 squadron commandants, and officers were assigned quarters other than those 318 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:37.640 given the cadets. Ferry complained bitterly that he should be 319 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:40.119 permitted to reside with the members of his group and 320 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:43.720 their barracks. This was strictly against all existing policy, and 321 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:47.359 when Ferry continued his insistence that he quartered with his 322 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:49.960 group of boys. He was ordered by his superior officers 323 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:54.880 not to stay in the cadet barracks. After this order, 324 00:18:55.680 --> 00:19:00.720 Ferry was discovered living in the barracks in defiance of 325 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.119 the order, and in the ensuing uproar, he was ordered 326 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:05.880 to leave the base. He departed and took most of 327 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:07.920 the members of his group with him, although the encampment 328 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:10.759 was not ended. He then formed his own squadron without 329 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:14.279 official sanction. The Air Force liaison officer told the source 330 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:17.519 that during the subsequent inquiry by the CAAP and Air 331 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:21.319 Force investigative agencies, several rumors were received concerning his Ferry's 332 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:24.960 actions with his boys while under supervision. The source stated 333 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:27.599 that this same Air Force liaison officer might still be 334 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:29.799 assigned to this area and could be contacted for further 335 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:34.039 information about Fairi's activities as discovered by that group. No 336 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:38.799 information was deployed, I'm sorry it was developed regarding prosecution 337 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:41.039 in the alleged theft to government property violation and the 338 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:44.440 investigation was discontinued. According to the source, no information was 339 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:47.960 developed reflecting any associates or incidents concerning the subject. The 340 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:53.920 subject in Alexandria, Louisiana. He added that no inquiry had 341 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:57.400 been conducted by his agency in the Houston, Texas area 342 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:02.960 which might identify any associations of AT Alexandria, Louisiana and 343 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:08.000 connection with information previously developed through motor vehicle registrations concerning 344 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:12.680 in nineteen fifty nine, Ford registered to Lieutenant David W. Ferry, Junior, 345 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:19.000 United States Marine Corps residents listed as eleven Prospects Street Alexandria, Louisiana, 346 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.160 as well as reference to Susan Carden r d E 347 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.799 N PO Drawer one one five to one that city 348 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:30.599 in statement in February eighteenth, nineteen sixty two of Alvin 349 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:34.759 Roland Bobo, Chief of Police Stafford Richie. Alexandri was telephone 350 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:39.359 telephonically contacted by George L. Risley on November fifteen, sixty two, 351 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:42.039 at which time he furnished the following information. Okay, so 352 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:45.240 this is super important. We're getting into the David Ferry 353 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:49.160 Junior stuff, and this needs to be further researched. And 354 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:52.799 we have a name of a woman here, Susan Carden CRDN. 355 00:20:53.519 --> 00:21:01.000 Could that be the mother of David Ferry Junior. It's possible. 356 00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:03.240 So David Ferry Junior appeared to have used the name 357 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.440 Susan Carden as a reference on his Marine Corps stuff. 358 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:09.640 That's what I'm reading here, what appears to be to me. 359 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:13.119 So I think that's a really good chance. At least 360 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:15.119 we have a lead or a direction to take this 361 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.400 thing in. Susan Carden at one time must have lived 362 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:21.599 in she lives in Tampa, Florida. Lived in Tampa, Florida 363 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:23.680 in ninety forty nine. We know that because of the 364 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:26.720 tax returns. So, guys in the chat, if you want 365 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:28.759 to start of digging on Susan Carden, I appreciate it. 366 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:33.599 A review of his department's identification files revealed no criminal 367 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:36.839 record or complaint filed for the subject or David W. 368 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:40.799 Ferry Junior. Neither of these individuals were known to the chief. 369 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:45.240 He advised he's had no particular problem regarding sex DVI. 370 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.000 It's in his jurisdiction. A check with his juvenile division 371 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:51.640 failed to discern any file or complaint on the subject 372 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:55.279 Faerry Junior, Susan Carden, or anyone using the above names. 373 00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:58.920 Richie stated that he had overheard some discussion among members 374 00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:01.279 of his department several years ago regarding gossip to the 375 00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:04.200 effect that an individual by the name of Juneau who 376 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:07.400 resided in the vicinity of Prospect Street was a homosexual. 377 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:11.440 No overt acts were reported to this department, and no 378 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:14.960 inquiry was ever initiated in the absence of any complaints. 379 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:17.960 A check of the city directory by Richie during the 380 00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:21.039 call revealed a Daniel L. Juneaux residing at thirty one 381 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:27.319 Prospect Street. Richie said this would not be the individual 382 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:31.480 he had referred to as Daniel Juneau, who was employed 383 00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:33.680 as a captain in the Fire department and was personally 384 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:36.480 known by Richie. He added, the Juneau family in that 385 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:38.480 area was a rather large and it could possibly be 386 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:41.480 another member of the family. The directory showed no listing 387 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:47.440 for anyone by the name of Ferry. At this same time, 388 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:51.039 Richie had one of his men query the Rapids Parish 389 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:55.240 Sheriff's office concerning Ferry and Susan Carden. This office reported 390 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:58.920 that at search of their identification and juvenile files failed 391 00:22:58.920 --> 00:23:02.079 to reveal any criminal information for these individuals. The New 392 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:05.480 Orleans Retail Credit Bureau advised George L. Risley on November fifteenth, 393 00:23:05.559 --> 00:23:09.240 nineteen sixty two that at check with the Alexandria Louisiana 394 00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:11.599 Credit Bureau revealed there was no record for a David W. 395 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.039 Ferry Junior at eleven Prospects Street, no prior inquiries received 396 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:18.599 there about him. A confidential source known as known to 397 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:23.799 George L. Risley, who's employed in Alexandria's leading medical clinic, 398 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:27.359 reported telephonically on November fifteenth, nineteen sixty two that Captain 399 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:30.839 Daniel L. Janneaux, aged forty, is employed with the Alexandria 400 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:34.759 Fire Department, is married to Leader Roberts Janeaux, aged thirty seven, 401 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:38.359