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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog.

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<v Speaker 1>My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and he was dead. And once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, like, I didn't see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling around

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<v Speaker 1>out here. Did you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Or was it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Standing up? I'm out here looking through the window now

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Quice, you better hello, get somebody out here. What

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<v Speaker 1>quin I'm out there?

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<v Speaker 3>That's thought of a bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>About sixty forty nine. I don't know. Easy announ there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to welcome you to the latest episode of

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<v Speaker 2>my series, The Strange and Unexplayed Phenomena of the South

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<v Speaker 2>Mountains of North Carolina. I love hearing and collecting the

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<v Speaker 2>first hand accounts of people who have a witness things,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the people who have witnessed the phenomena that are

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<v Speaker 2>known to occur here in the South Mountains area, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of subcategories that intrigue me even more. One

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<v Speaker 2>of those is hearing the accounts of the old timers.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a couple of reasons for that, but one of

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<v Speaker 2>them is it helps date this phenomena. The common myth

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<v Speaker 2>is that all of this began in December of nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy eight, in the early part of nineteen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when all this started. That simply is not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking with the old timers who tell me of their

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<v Speaker 2>accounts when they were older, tell me accounts of their parents,

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<v Speaker 2>their grandparents, it helps date this and it goes back

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<v Speaker 2>decades and decades. Today I bring you the story of

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<v Speaker 2>one of the old timers, a dear friend of mine

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<v Speaker 2>who has since past all and I've just referred to

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<v Speaker 2>him in this episode to Smitty, but I dedicate this

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<v Speaker 2>to Smitty. May you rest in peace. Brother Smitty was

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<v Speaker 2>a hardcool country boy, outdoorsman, fisherman, haunter, camper, hiker. He

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<v Speaker 2>knew these South Mountains like the back of his hand.

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<v Speaker 2>The only time that he didn't live here in this

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<v Speaker 2>area is when the United States Army drafted him and

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<v Speaker 2>sent him to Vietnam. The year was nineteen seventy one.

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<v Speaker 2>He had just finished his two year stint in United

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<v Speaker 2>States Army. He was home back in his beloved South

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<v Speaker 2>Mountains and was just readjusting. And he had an offul

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<v Speaker 2>with whom he was particularly close and his uncle again

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<v Speaker 2>rekindled their relationship. On a certain day, he suggested going

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<v Speaker 2>squirrel honey, but he suggested that they visit an area

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<v Speaker 2>that was particularly rich in squirrels. The day that I

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed Smitty about this, he said, I didn't want to go,

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<v Speaker 2>and I asked him why, and he said, because that

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<v Speaker 2>area is further back inside the South Mountains. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>we were always uncomfortable there. We felt like we were

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<v Speaker 2>being watched. Many times we heard strange noises, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>it was close to sundown. But on this occasion, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>he agreed the idea of an area plenty full and

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<v Speaker 2>squirrel And you got to remember, to this day, there's

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<v Speaker 2>people here in this area that are poverty stricken, but

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<v Speaker 2>even more in this area's history and back in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventies, and the idea of putting some food on

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<v Speaker 2>the table wasn't just as for it, it was a necessity.

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<v Speaker 2>So they went, he and his uppel. This particular area,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, was deeper into the South Mountains, on

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<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland County, North Carolina side of the South Mountains,

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<v Speaker 2>so it required a hike. They began their journey about

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<v Speaker 2>ten that morning, wanting to get there and do early

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon and early evening journey. They begin their journey that day,

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<v Speaker 2>and it required them to ascend one of the small

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<v Speaker 2>mountains on the south side of the South Mountains and

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<v Speaker 2>then from there they would have to descend back into

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<v Speaker 2>a creek bottle go partially upward up the next mountain

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<v Speaker 2>to this area that was rich in squirrel, rich in

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<v Speaker 2>hickory trees, rich in oak trees, with the acorns and

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<v Speaker 2>the hickory nuts particularly concentrated in those trees. As they

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<v Speaker 2>reached the peak of the first mountain that they needed

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<v Speaker 2>to cross, they stopped for rest. Smitty, freshome from the

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<v Speaker 2>Jungles of Vietnam, was still in a state of hyper observance.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, as he looked around. He looked downhill in

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<v Speaker 2>approximately three hundred yards away there was a large hair

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<v Speaker 2>covered creature kind of laying on a large log, and

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<v Speaker 2>Smitty told me, he said, I actually thought I was

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<v Speaker 2>seeing things, he said. He questioned what he was seeing,

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<v Speaker 2>so he pointed out to his uncle, who verified that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they were seeing. And I asked him to describe it.

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<v Speaker 2>He said. It was very large, completely covered in hair,

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<v Speaker 2>with a pointed head. The whole back of its head

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<v Speaker 2>was covered in hair, and you couldn't even see ears.

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<v Speaker 2>They never saw the front at that time, and they

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<v Speaker 2>watched it in shock, And as though this creature knew

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<v Speaker 2>that it was being watched, it suddenly got up and

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<v Speaker 2>didn't turn all the way around, but turned slightly and

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<v Speaker 2>then proceeded north in the opposite direction downhill, which was

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<v Speaker 2>the direction they were headed. They discussed the matter. They

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<v Speaker 2>knew of the phenomena in this area, the old phenomena,

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<v Speaker 2>but they decided to continue anyway, part out of curiosity

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<v Speaker 2>and of course part out of wanting to get a

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<v Speaker 2>good hunt that day, And so they proceeded. They began

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<v Speaker 2>to ascend from that peak they had previously occupied. They

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<v Speaker 2>got down to that next creek bottom. They ascended up

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<v Speaker 2>the next mountain partially to the area in question, and

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<v Speaker 2>they begin their swirl. But to their surprise, that day,

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<v Speaker 2>they all not one squirrel. Very unusual, extremely unusual. Never before,

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<v Speaker 2>said Smitty, had they not left there with less than

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<v Speaker 2>a dozen squirrel But that day they saw neary a squirrel.

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<v Speaker 2>As it came close to time to pack it in

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<v Speaker 2>and leave, they heard what Smitty described as a deep hollor,

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<v Speaker 2>like something was mad at them. They said it was

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<v Speaker 2>very close, but they could not see it, and they

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<v Speaker 2>froze in place and watched. And as they watched, they

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<v Speaker 2>soon began hearing footsteps. The footsteps were getting closer to them.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem was that the footsteps was coming from the

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<v Speaker 2>direction they needed to go, and they didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to do. They didn't want to go the opposite direction

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<v Speaker 2>because that led further into the interior of the South Mountains.

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<v Speaker 2>Then suddenly they saw it. The sun wasn't set yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was getting close. They saw what Smitty described

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<v Speaker 2>as a giant Harry booger. Now booger is a Southern

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<v Speaker 2>term for a monster. I asked him to describe it.

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<v Speaker 2>He said it went five six hundred pounds easy seven

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<v Speaker 2>feet taller, covered in hair except for its eye area,

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<v Speaker 2>its nose area, in its mouth area, and that it

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<v Speaker 2>was a dark reddish brown hair. It came closer and

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<v Speaker 2>then it stopped. The men were completely shocked and terrorized,

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<v Speaker 2>and for good reason. They were only armed with sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>gage shotguns, and those shotguns they had bird shot, not

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<v Speaker 2>a very effective thing to defend yourself with, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were just unsure what to do. But it began to

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<v Speaker 2>move closer, and it would stop and do another one

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<v Speaker 2>of those yells, a showling growl, and on several occasions

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<v Speaker 2>they saw it show its teeth. It would stop and

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<v Speaker 2>put on this display of aggression, And so they decided

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<v Speaker 2>to had the opposite direction of the way they actually

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<v Speaker 2>needed to go, and to go up that hill to

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<v Speaker 2>the top of that mountain, and it pursued them the

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<v Speaker 2>whole way. They would to get a breather. At one

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<v Speaker 2>point the awful fail and Smitty had to help him up,

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<v Speaker 2>but they got to the peak and it was still coming.

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<v Speaker 2>They descended back down that peak, heading toward the creek

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<v Speaker 2>bottom that Smitty knew would take them to a road,

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<v Speaker 2>and as they got halfway down that other side of

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<v Speaker 2>that small mountain, they heard that yelling, growling howl once again,

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<v Speaker 2>and they looked up and this creature that they reported

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<v Speaker 2>was standing there, putting on the biggest aggressive display yet

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<v Speaker 2>repeatedly yelling in the manner that had been yelling and

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<v Speaker 2>showing its teeth, was rocking back and forth and back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth, and then would start yelling again. They kept going.

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<v Speaker 2>They reached the creek bottom. By then it was dark

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<v Speaker 2>down there in these woods at night, and at dark

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a fun place to be. They reached the

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<v Speaker 2>creek bottom, they made the road, they got out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend Smitty said, Jerry, I never went back to

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<v Speaker 2>that area again, And he said, I never went hunting

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<v Speaker 2>again without also being armed with a forty four magnum pistol.

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<v Speaker 2>And the man was terrified when he told me. The

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<v Speaker 2>story tonight's episode involves, like last week, a uncle and

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<v Speaker 2>nephew duo. I'm not using the real names here, but

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<v Speaker 2>we'll start off with uncle death. Uncle Jeff lives in

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<v Speaker 2>this area here south of the South Mountains mountain chain,

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<v Speaker 2>just a few miles from the southern border of the

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<v Speaker 2>state park, a country boy, outdoorsman, hunter, fisher, camp or hiker,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. And then his nephew Jake, who

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<v Speaker 2>lives about an hour east of here. Now, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a certain period of time that young Jake would travel

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<v Speaker 2>up here on Thursdays to spend time with his uncle.

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<v Speaker 2>And on those Thursdays they would attend the local bluegrass church,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a regular church. They just do bluegrass music.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have a piano. They got a banger. They

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<v Speaker 2>got to get to our dog house base, a mantlin,

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<v Speaker 2>a fiddle, a doughbro. But Jeff and his nephew, Jake,

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<v Speaker 2>had that in common. They were both blue grass musicians,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff's bluegrass vocalists that were both heavily in the bluegrass,

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<v Speaker 2>So they had that link and they had a really

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<v Speaker 2>good relationship for an awful and a nephew. And then

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<v Speaker 2>after each service, Jake would follow his uncle home endings

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<v Speaker 2>stay another couple hours, sometimes on up into the night,

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<v Speaker 2>just hanging around, maybe picking cutting up, talking that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. But on one particular cold November night in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen, things happened as I described. They went to

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<v Speaker 2>the service, Jake followed his uncle back to the house

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<v Speaker 2>and they spent some time together and a little after

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<v Speaker 2>eleven o'clock, Jake said, I'm going to have to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Uncle Jeff walket him to the door and they said

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<v Speaker 2>they're goodbyes. Jeff started the process of getting ready for bed.

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<v Speaker 2>He went to plug his phone up to charge it

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<v Speaker 2>in at rank it was his nephew who, in a

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<v Speaker 2>very frightened and anxious voice, simply said, I need you

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<v Speaker 2>to get out here right now, and he hung up.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff had fortunately not shed his boots, she had grabbed

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<v Speaker 2>the coat, and he got outside, not having a clue

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<v Speaker 2>what to expect, and he found his nephew to simply

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<v Speaker 2>be standing over in the yard, which is on high ground.

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<v Speaker 2>And he walked up to him and said, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>And his nephew said, pointed across the way, and he said, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>something is over there. Sure enough, in a few seconds,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff heard the distinct sound of something walking in those

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<v Speaker 2>woods across the way from them. Now they were on

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<v Speaker 2>high ground. And then that went down to a little

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<v Speaker 2>country road that's the dead end road, and then a fence,

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<v Speaker 2>and then about ten yards past that fence was the woodline.

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<v Speaker 2>And this woodline was the starting area of a higher

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<v Speaker 2>or what in other parts of the country you might

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<v Speaker 2>call it a drawl or a valley, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>the starting point of a hollow that was very deep

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<v Speaker 2>and run all the way to a major creek. Here

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<v Speaker 2>in northern Cleveland County called Wards Creek. So they listened,

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<v Speaker 2>and they kept hearing the sound of something moving, and

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<v Speaker 2>closer and closer to them, And he told Jake, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>he left Jake there for just a couple of minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>and he run in and found the spotlight, came back outside,

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<v Speaker 2>and the sound of the footfalls continued, and he began

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<v Speaker 2>to spotlight those woods. Now, keep in mind, though this

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<v Speaker 2>parts of these woods, with the big trees, medium trees, saplings,

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<v Speaker 2>even with the flashlight. So he just continued to scan

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<v Speaker 2>with spotlight, trying to hone in on the source of

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<v Speaker 2>and forth just inside the woodline, and as he spotlighted.

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<v Speaker 2>He stopped because he thought he saw movement, and he

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<v Speaker 2>followed by what was described as an ape like sound.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather than describe it, I'll just try to mimic it

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<v Speaker 2>the way that they mimicked it to me, and it

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<v Speaker 2>sounded something like this. They stopped. He didn't see anything.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't see any movement. Now, we all face points

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<v Speaker 2>in life on when we have the fight or flight reaction,

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<v Speaker 2>and young Jake had the flight reaction, and he broke

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<v Speaker 2>out and ran toward the house. Now, Jeb being an

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<v Speaker 2>and ask questions later, and that's what he did. So

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<v Speaker 2>they got into the house and they were talking to

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<v Speaker 2>each other for what was that. Now they were both

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<v Speaker 2>well aware of the Lord. Jeff had actually had some

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<v Speaker 2>experiences in the past, and curiosity got the best of them.

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<v Speaker 2>will get you. They elected to come back outside. Jake said,

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<v Speaker 2>let me grab my piece out of my vehicle. He

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<v Speaker 2>hear the source of this continuing to walk, pacing back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth, and it stopped, and after a few minutes

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<v Speaker 2>they decided to go downhill, cross that road and go

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<v Speaker 2>to that fence. And they still had the relative safety

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<v Speaker 2>of about ten yards of clear area between that fence

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<v Speaker 2>and the woods. And they got down to the fence.

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<v Speaker 2>The walking resumed, except now it was walking away from them,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was clear to them that it was descending

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<v Speaker 2>back down into the depths of that holler, and it

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<v Speaker 2>continued to get more distant. But then they could tell

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<v Speaker 2>that it was not moving away from them anymore, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was pacing back and forth and back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>They would hear more of the sounds, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>all stopped. And stay tuned for more sasquatch hot to see.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back. After these messages, Jeff and Jake,

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<v Speaker 2>after a few minutes, decided to go back up into

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<v Speaker 2>the yard on high ground, and they heard the steps

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<v Speaker 2>coming back up out of the holler toward them, closer

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<v Speaker 2>and closer. They knew at that point that it was

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<v Speaker 2>as close as it had been yet. Jeff was faithfully

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<v Speaker 2>spotlighting those woods, trying to hone in to see anything

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<v Speaker 2>that he could see, and finally it happened. He testifies

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<v Speaker 2>that he clearly saw a mouth and an upper chest,

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<v Speaker 2>and that the only thing that wasn't covered by hair

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<v Speaker 2>was the mouth. To the best of his knowledge, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a reddish brown colored hair, and he was mesmerized

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<v Speaker 2>by it, caught up in a moment again and looking,

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<v Speaker 2>and suddenly the shout, these guttural yells started again with

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<v Speaker 2>those a black noises. They clearly heard stomping and the

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<v Speaker 2>yelling and the stomping, and then he saw what the

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<v Speaker 2>spotlight that one of the trees was shaking violently back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth. And they felt relatively safe, they had protection,

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<v Speaker 2>they had a lot of distance, but both were very uneasy,

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<v Speaker 2>and both were very frightened. And that continued for several minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then finally it stopped. They heard the footsteps. They

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<v Speaker 2>heard the footsteps getting more distant and more distant until

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<v Speaker 2>finally they didn't hear them anymore. So they were just

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<v Speaker 2>standing there wandering what just happened? Whatever this was, what

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<v Speaker 2>was it doing. Was it toying with them? Was it

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<v Speaker 2>sending out a clear message this is my area you

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<v Speaker 2>need to leave. But to this day both men are

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<v Speaker 2>deeply affected. As a matter of fact, that night, Jake said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if I want to drive out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>The rock going to come out of the woods. It's

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<v Speaker 2>something going to step out in the road, and said

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<v Speaker 2>I'll provide over watch with the spotlight. And Jake was

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<v Speaker 2>able to safely leave. But to this day they were

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<v Speaker 2>both deeply assafted that And so would you. An elderly

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<v Speaker 2>couple came to me in the winter of twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two and said that they had an encounter that night before.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a November of twenty twenty two, and that

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<v Speaker 2>they was riding up a road here in this area

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<v Speaker 2>north of Kayser. As they went up a hill off

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<v Speaker 2>to the right, he said he noticed this large person.

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<v Speaker 2>But he said as he got closer, he said it

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<v Speaker 2>was way too large to be a man. And he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen that it was covered in the hair. He

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<v Speaker 2>had slowed down because I was afraid it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to step out in front of him. But as they

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<v Speaker 2>approached it, it turned its head and looked at them,

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<v Speaker 2>and when the lights hid its eyes that they shone

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<v Speaker 2>red and him and his wife were both shaken and said,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll never go out after dark again. But it's some

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<v Speaker 2>events that spend the time period from November twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>until August of this year. Are they trying to herd us?

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<v Speaker 2>In the fourth week of November of twenty eighteen, a

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<v Speaker 2>father son duo ascended a ridge and separated and went

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<v Speaker 2>to their respective deer stands. Well, we're going to focus

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<v Speaker 2>on the sun. Young Calvin is very experienced, mature for

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<v Speaker 2>his age, old man who had hunted since he was

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<v Speaker 2>very small, and was a very capable of pondering outdoorsman.

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<v Speaker 2>But he got into his tree stand at four thirty

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<v Speaker 2>that morning and simply began to wait for slom. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said that about four forty five he heard the

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<v Speaker 2>distinct sound of footsteps, and as an experienced hunter, he

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<v Speaker 2>said that he knew that it was something walking on

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<v Speaker 2>two feet, and the footsteps got closer and closer, and

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly the footsteps became slower and more deliberate, and it

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<v Speaker 2>put him in mind, and I agree with him that

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<v Speaker 2>his position was being stalked by something. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>footsteps stopped. Within a few minutes, he heard what he described

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<v Speaker 2>as so ape like whooping went on just for a

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<v Speaker 2>minute or two, and by then he was frightened, according

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<v Speaker 2>to his testimony, but just being on Hiler and the

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<v Speaker 2>listening and intently watching into the darkness, it suddenly heard

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<v Speaker 2>the sound of something crashing through the tree limbs, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said that he just instinctively knew something had been thrown.

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<v Speaker 2>He heard a thud, and the tree in which he

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<v Speaker 2>was in vibrated. It struck the tree in which it

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<v Speaker 2>was sitting, And by then he was ready to go,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did not want to descend out of the

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<v Speaker 2>tree stand And I think that was a very wise move.

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<v Speaker 2>It's better to stay twenty four feet up than down

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<v Speaker 2>on the forest floor and you don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>The next morning they got out of the tree stands

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<v Speaker 2>and he fell a large rock a little smaller than

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<v Speaker 2>a volleyball, had hit the tree that he was in.

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<v Speaker 2>It had knocked bark off the tree, which was a

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<v Speaker 2>large tree, and also dended the wood underlying the bark,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was thrown a tremendous force. Not only did

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<v Speaker 2>they not harvest the deer that morning, but he and

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<v Speaker 2>his father said that they saw nothing. No deer, no raccoons,

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<v Speaker 2>no skunks, nothing, which is very unusual for this area.

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<v Speaker 2>I allow looked. The retired deputy sheriff from Burke County

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<v Speaker 2>investigated this. We saw the rock, the damage tree, and

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<v Speaker 2>we found about thirty five yards from where his tree

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<v Speaker 2>stand was, something very large had been bedding down there.

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<v Speaker 2>You old Calvin nasty, he said, are they trying to

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<v Speaker 2>hurt us? And we both agreed it. It's just probably

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<v Speaker 2>not a good idea to ever go into these woods

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<v Speaker 2>after dark by yourself. The second event I want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you about was a group of hikers, not hikers,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were hiking a high ridge not far from

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<v Speaker 2>where I am right now as I record this. They

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<v Speaker 2>were doing it for fun. They were talking, laughing, no

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<v Speaker 2>reason to be quiet or not use their flashlights, And

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<v Speaker 2>as they descended the end of the ridge, the group

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<v Speaker 2>was caught by surprise by again the sound of something

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<v Speaker 2>crashing through the trees. A large rock came in from

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<v Speaker 2>their right and impacted, almost hitting one of the members

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<v Speaker 2>of the hiking party, and there were five of them.

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<v Speaker 2>They stopped, certainly, not expecting that, and they listened and observe,

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<v Speaker 2>and nothing else happened, and they went back to their camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing else of note happened the rest of the night,

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<v Speaker 2>except to say that at about three point thirty in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, from several locations around them, they heard the

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<v Speaker 2>sound of a low frequency growling howl, and they felt

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<v Speaker 2>as though they were surrounded. And that's horrifying. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>in that position, and it is truly horrifying. Two of

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<v Speaker 2>the members of the group has not been back since

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<v Speaker 2>the third event. I want to tell you about two people,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of those people was me. We were out

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<v Speaker 2>scouting areas along creeks and along the Broad River looking

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<v Speaker 2>for footprints, and we came to a bridge on a

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<v Speaker 2>dirt road, and underneath it we failed one single print

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<v Speaker 2>on a sand bar in the middle of the river,

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<v Speaker 2>and the print was three and a half inches d

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<v Speaker 2>From the water line to the print it was four feet,

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<v Speaker 2>and from the print to the other water line in

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<v Speaker 2>the direction of travel, it was four feet, meaning whatever

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<v Speaker 2>made that print and the weight sufficient to depress its

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<v Speaker 2>foot three and a half inches into hard packed rocky

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<v Speaker 2>sind and it had a stride of four feet at least.

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<v Speaker 2>We took pictures of it. We got in my friend's

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<v Speaker 2>brand new jeep and we commenced to driving up the

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<v Speaker 2>dirt road in about one hundred and fifty two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>feet away. Suddenly something hit the jeep. I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>one of the windows had been blowing down. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that we had been shot at. But the driver, my friend,

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<v Speaker 2>said that it hit the roof above his head and

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<v Speaker 2>it was apparent to him something had been thrown. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, do you want to go back and look

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<v Speaker 2>for the rock or check the damage? He said no.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got back to my place and in the

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<v Speaker 2>top of his jeep was a very large gouge. The rock,

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<v Speaker 2>which we never foiled because it had gone off the

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<v Speaker 2>jeep into the woods down a hill, was large and

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<v Speaker 2>headed hard enough to damage his new jeep. He wasn't mad.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that was a pretty good way to damage

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<v Speaker 2>a jeep if you're going to damage a jeep, and

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<v Speaker 2>he has not been back on those excursions with me.

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<v Speaker 2>The fourth and final event that I want to tell

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<v Speaker 2>who we've talked about before, and his friend Vera, were

417
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<v Speaker 2>creek walking. Now, creek walking is simply where you walk

418
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<v Speaker 2>in the creek rather than hiking along the sides of

419
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<v Speaker 2>the creek, and the advantage to that is that you

420
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<v Speaker 2>don't have to negotiate the thick foliage of the creek bottom.

421
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<v Speaker 2>And this was in August of this year. But they

422
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<v Speaker 2>were creek walking for fun, but they were aware of

423
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<v Speaker 2>the reputation of this area and had some experiences. And

424
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<v Speaker 2>as they acting in the creek, they came to a

425
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<v Speaker 2>point to stop to take a water break, and Rist

426
00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:40.799
<v Speaker 2>and Ray, being somewhat mischievous enjoying the prospect of aggravating Vera,

427
00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:45.240
<v Speaker 2>picked up a stick and swatted a tree twice, mimicking

428
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<v Speaker 2>a woodknock, which we've talked about old previous episodes. This

429
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<v Speaker 2>was at four o'clock broad daylight. Now I can tell

430
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<v Speaker 2>you from my experience, you don't hear many sounds or

431
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<v Speaker 2>vocalizations before dark. I've heard five vocalizations in ten years

432
00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:05.119
<v Speaker 2>or wooden knocks combination thereof before dark in ten years.

433
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<v Speaker 2>But immediately after hit that tree off to their right,

434
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<v Speaker 2>which had been to their east, something hit a tree

435
00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:14.599
<v Speaker 2>and it hit it with a large piece of wood

436
00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:19.079
<v Speaker 2>ray pictured maybe a semi rotted log to hit the tree,

437
00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:21.279
<v Speaker 2>and it could hear the sound of what hit the

438
00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:24.880
<v Speaker 2>tree breaking, and that it was very close. He felt

439
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:27.119
<v Speaker 2>that it was one hundred feet or less. Now one

440
00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:29.119
<v Speaker 2>hundred feet might as well be a mile in the

441
00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:32.720
<v Speaker 2>foliage of these creek bottoms during the cellar. But immediately

442
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<v Speaker 2>within a couple of seconds after that, one on the

443
00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:41.079
<v Speaker 2>opposite side of the creek heard another sharp, very sharp,

444
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:44.680
<v Speaker 2>distinct wooden knock, and he reported that one too, was

445
00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:48.279
<v Speaker 2>also very close to them. So he convinced his friend

446
00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:51.359
<v Speaker 2>to just stop, and they wanted to watch and observe

447
00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:55.599
<v Speaker 2>and listen, and nothing else occurred, and they begin walking again,

448
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<v Speaker 2>and roughly about five minutes later, without warning, without any

449
00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:03.279
<v Speaker 2>of the pre cursory sounds, a rock was thrown, narrowly

450
00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:06.720
<v Speaker 2>missing Vera's head by inches. It was throw from their

451
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:10.599
<v Speaker 2>left went over her head and impacted the creek next

452
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<v Speaker 2>to them, and it was a piece of quartz slightly

453
00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:16.519
<v Speaker 2>smaller than a softball and had to hit her in

454
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<v Speaker 2>the head or him. It would have sent them to

455
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<v Speaker 2>the hospital seriously hurt them if not kill them. They

456
00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:25.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't stop and observe or listen. They kept going and

457
00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:29.079
<v Speaker 2>as they were moving along at a hurried pace, they

458
00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:32.559
<v Speaker 2>began to hear the distinct sound of whooping and unmow

459
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:36.839
<v Speaker 2>frequency growling. How that was very close to them and

460
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:38.039
<v Speaker 2>they have not been back.

461
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<v Speaker 4>Since approximately a year ago. We had an expedition that

462
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:46.559
<v Speaker 4>took place down in South Carolina at a hunting reservation.

463
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<v Speaker 4>On that day, we were very fortunate because this area

464
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<v Speaker 4>is a lowland area, very swampy, a lot of water,

465
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<v Speaker 4>a lot of standing water year round. However, last summer

466
00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:03.039
<v Speaker 4>it was a very dry summer, so we were able

467
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:06.400
<v Speaker 4>to access this one area where normally you can't walk

468
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:11.880
<v Speaker 4>into without chest waiters. So Dwight and I took off

469
00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:15.799
<v Speaker 4>and we start walking down through the swamp. He had

470
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.640
<v Speaker 4>his dog, Fendy with him, and they were to my

471
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.119
<v Speaker 4>left and I was to the right. And as we

472
00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:25.759
<v Speaker 4>were making distance down through the swamp, Dwight and I separated.

473
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:29.599
<v Speaker 4>He was about fifty yards away from me. He dropped

474
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.759
<v Speaker 4>back behind me for a little ways, then I'd move forward.

475
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.720
<v Speaker 4>I was specifically looking for footprints or any type of

476
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:40.720
<v Speaker 4>structures I could run across. I happened to run across

477
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:43.839
<v Speaker 4>a print. That print was the first one that I

478
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:46.960
<v Speaker 4>had found down in South Carolina, and I was extremely

479
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:49.640
<v Speaker 4>excited about it. So what I did was I took

480
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:54.400
<v Speaker 4>some red flagging tape and I flagged a tree with it.

481
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:58.079
<v Speaker 4>It was still earlier in the afternoon, and I wanted

482
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:00.279
<v Speaker 4>to keep moving forward to see if I I could

483
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:04.680
<v Speaker 4>find more prints or more evidence, hopefully a squatch or

484
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.839
<v Speaker 4>a dog man or something along those lines, some type

485
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:12.720
<v Speaker 4>of creature. I kept pressing forward, and then Dwight. I

486
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:15.000
<v Speaker 4>could hear him. Every once in a while, we'd let

487
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.519
<v Speaker 4>out a little whoop to each other, just to let

488
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:21.000
<v Speaker 4>each other know our general location. I had taken my

489
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:25.279
<v Speaker 4>audio recorder and placed it on a stump about halfway

490
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.920
<v Speaker 4>into my walt, hoping to catch something on.

491
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:29.920
<v Speaker 3>The audio recorder.

492
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:32.480
<v Speaker 4>So I leave my audio recorder on the stump and

493
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:36.480
<v Speaker 4>I keep pressing forward deeper in the woods. I'm going deeper,

494
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:37.480
<v Speaker 4>and I'm going deeper.

495
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:38.519
<v Speaker 3>I guess.

496
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.960
<v Speaker 4>I was walking for what felt like a good solid

497
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:46.039
<v Speaker 4>thirty forty five minutes. I had basically gotten to the

498
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:51.240
<v Speaker 4>point of where I was a long way from base camp.

499
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:53.000
<v Speaker 3>I knew that at that.

500
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 4>Point I hadn't heard Dwighte in thirty minutes. There was

501
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:01.480
<v Speaker 4>no interaction with me and him. Come to find out,

502
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:03.839
<v Speaker 4>he and Findy at that point had turned around and

503
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:05.480
<v Speaker 4>started going back to base camp.

504
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:07.880
<v Speaker 3>So I get to the end of my walk and.

505
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm feeling solid about the footprint that I've already captured.

506
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:12.640
<v Speaker 3>I've got it flagged.

507
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.000
<v Speaker 4>All I've got to do is retrack my steps back

508
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.640
<v Speaker 4>to it, picked my audio recorder up if I don't

509
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:24.039
<v Speaker 4>get something, and then go check my track. So I'm

510
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:26.519
<v Speaker 4>at the end of my walk. This was when I

511
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:32.279
<v Speaker 4>first started researching, and I was in an environment by myself.

512
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.920
<v Speaker 4>I had seen all these other people, all these other researchers.

513
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 4>They were doing the whoops, they were doing the calls,

514
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:43.279
<v Speaker 4>and I thought I'd give it a try. I figured,

515
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:46.079
<v Speaker 4>what the hey, I'm by myself, there's nobody around.

516
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:48.200
<v Speaker 3>I can make a complete fool out of myself.

517
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.559
<v Speaker 4>So I picked a branch up that was broken on

518
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 4>the ground, and it was about a good three inches

519
00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:01.000
<v Speaker 4>in diameter. Mind you, it was completely so it was

520
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 4>not a dry stick. And so I grabbed the stick.

521
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:08.400
<v Speaker 4>I hit the tree with it and it made just

522
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:12.279
<v Speaker 4>a thud, nothing loud. The sound didn't really carry. I

523
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.039
<v Speaker 4>wasn't happy with it, so I was like, screw that,

524
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.759
<v Speaker 4>I'll give it another go. So I took the tree

525
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:21.799
<v Speaker 4>land this time, and I hauled off and swung it

526
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:23.640
<v Speaker 4>as hard as I could to try to get a

527
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.480
<v Speaker 4>noise out of it. And I got a great noise

528
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:28.680
<v Speaker 4>out of that one. So I'm standing there and I'm

529
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:33.359
<v Speaker 4>happy with that result, and I'm like, okay, waiting on

530
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.319
<v Speaker 4>a reply, waiting on possibly another wood knock. I hear

531
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:42.599
<v Speaker 4>absolutely nothing, dead quiet in the swamp. Mind you, I'm

532
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:47.680
<v Speaker 4>still standing there in this location and my feet are

533
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 4>maybe two inches in the mud. That's what I was

534
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:57.319
<v Speaker 4>standing in. So walking through the swamp made no noise.

535
00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:01.319
<v Speaker 3>It was just silence. It was easy to navigate, very

536
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.400
<v Speaker 3>quiet and.

537
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see we're right

538
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.480
<v Speaker 2>back after these messages.

539
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 4>So as I'm standing there, still beside the tree that

540
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.599
<v Speaker 4>I just did the two wood knocks on, what I

541
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:20.519
<v Speaker 4>did next was I said, I'm gonna let out a yell.

542
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 4>I gave one of the kind of a reserved woo,

543
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:28.960
<v Speaker 4>stood there for a moment, had nothing reply back, and

544
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.039
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, come on, I've gone this far

545
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.279
<v Speaker 4>I've done tree knocks, I've done a yell.

546
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:35.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to do another yell.

547
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:39.799
<v Speaker 4>So that's when I let out the best yell, of

548
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:44.839
<v Speaker 4>the loudest, most vocalization that I could throw out. So

549
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:49.880
<v Speaker 4>I do that, nothing happens, and I'm like, Okay, that's fine,

550
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:51.640
<v Speaker 4>I'll just turn around and go back.

551
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:54.880
<v Speaker 3>That's the end of this. Just as I was about to.

552
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:59.720
<v Speaker 4>Turn around and retrace my footprints out of there, that's

553
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 4>when I got screamed at. The scream came from the

554
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:08.279
<v Speaker 4>left hand side of me, and the tree was directly

555
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:13.000
<v Speaker 4>still to my left, and when it screamed, I completely froze.

556
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:18.200
<v Speaker 4>I just completely tensed up. My body was just tight.

557
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.960
<v Speaker 4>I shut my eyes, and I was just standing there.

558
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:24.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh my god, what was that? Because I've

559
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:28.160
<v Speaker 4>heard Dwight call, and I've heard Dwight do hollers in

560
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:33.880
<v Speaker 4>the past, and this was not anywhere even remotely close

561
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.240
<v Speaker 4>to what a human could let out. Matter of fact,

562
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 4>Bob our other investigator in Sasquatch recn he probably lets

563
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:50.319
<v Speaker 4>out the loudest yell that I'd heard. This tripled what

564
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:54.519
<v Speaker 4>he could do. So once I heard it and the

565
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:58.200
<v Speaker 4>shock set in, I was just like, oh hell, this

566
00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:01.000
<v Speaker 4>is not from the guys. This is from a creature,

567
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 4>an animal, a being, a something. There's something out here,

568
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:10.240
<v Speaker 4>and it just completely floored me. So I opened my

569
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:14.319
<v Speaker 4>eyes up and I'm just looking straight out ahead of me,

570
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.599
<v Speaker 4>and this tree is still to my left, and I

571
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.200
<v Speaker 4>just said to myself, Okay, Chris, now is your time

572
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:22.799
<v Speaker 4>to prove to these guys.

573
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.039
<v Speaker 3>That you're not scared. You're not a freddy cat.

574
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:28.240
<v Speaker 4>You're not going to be talked about if you don't

575
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:30.480
<v Speaker 4>move forward on this sound.

576
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:33.359
<v Speaker 3>And that's what I did. I told myself.

577
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:36.599
<v Speaker 4>I said, Okay, I'm going to take two more steps

578
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.880
<v Speaker 4>and look at see if I can see what it

579
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.519
<v Speaker 4>is that made that sound that scared me so badly.

580
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.200
<v Speaker 4>And I had a firearm on me at the side,

581
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 4>and I remember doing this. I put my hand on

582
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:52.279
<v Speaker 4>my firearm and I said, Okay, I'm going to see

583
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.559
<v Speaker 4>what's out there, and I took two steps forward. And

584
00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:59.400
<v Speaker 4>as I took two steps forward, that's when I told myself,

585
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:03.400
<v Speaker 4>there's no way I'm making another step towards this thing.

586
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 3>There's no way.

587
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 4>All I wanted to do is get back to base camp.

588
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:11.319
<v Speaker 4>And I turned around and did a three sixty in

589
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:14.799
<v Speaker 4>the mud right there and started stepping back in my

590
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:18.039
<v Speaker 4>footprints that I had made because I could vividly see him,

591
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 4>and I was looking down. Because one of our fellow researchers,

592
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:28.880
<v Speaker 4>Tim Dills, I had asked him in the past. I said, man,

593
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 4>when you saw your first bigfoot, I said, what advice

594
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:37.759
<v Speaker 4>would you give someone? Tim told me to drop your head,

595
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:42.400
<v Speaker 4>don't make eye contact, look at the direction you're wanting

596
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.079
<v Speaker 4>to travel into, and don't take your eyes off of it,

597
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:46.720
<v Speaker 4>and just walk slowly.

598
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Out of the woods. And that's exactly what I did.

599
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.480
<v Speaker 4>What I feel like happened was I was so deep

600
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:57.880
<v Speaker 4>in the woods by myself alone that when I did

601
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.920
<v Speaker 4>the two tree knocks that got its attention, and then

602
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:05.839
<v Speaker 4>when I did the yell with no reply back that

603
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:11.320
<v Speaker 4>after I did that second yell, apparently I upset it.

604
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 4>It screamed at me with such a vibrating scream that

605
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:21.400
<v Speaker 4>it vibrated my chest and the hairs on my arms

606
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:24.559
<v Speaker 4>and my neck stood up, and I was just goosebumped

607
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 4>from head to toe. I've told this story a couple

608
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 4>of times, and a couple of people that I told

609
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 4>it to said, you possibly were zapped.

610
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:38.519
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know what ZAPP was. I knew I was shocked.

611
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 4>I knew that I was scared, and I knew that

612
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.039
<v Speaker 4>I was being honest with myself by wanting to get

613
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:49.800
<v Speaker 4>the hell out of there in one piece, because whatever

614
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:54.159
<v Speaker 4>creature this vocalization came out of it had to have volume,

615
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 4>it had to be big, and it had to have

616
00:34:57.639 --> 00:34:59.599
<v Speaker 4>one heck of a set of lungs on it to

617
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:03.000
<v Speaker 4>get that type of velocity to come through the woods

618
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:04.519
<v Speaker 4>or the swamp.

619
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:05.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

620
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 4>I was basically scared shitless. So from that point I

621
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.480
<v Speaker 4>just started walking back. And as I was walking back,

622
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.239
<v Speaker 4>I walked back over and I found my audio recorders

623
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:16.119
<v Speaker 4>where I'd left it.

624
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:17.400
<v Speaker 3>I grabbed it.

625
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:20.880
<v Speaker 4>Then I kept walking and I walked to the spot

626
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 4>where I found the footprint because my flagging tape, so

627
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<v Speaker 4>I knew exactly where it was at. And I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going back to base camp. Now, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>get the guys. We're going to come back out here

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<v Speaker 4>and we're going to cast this. And as I was walking,

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<v Speaker 4>it probably was another forty five minute walk because I

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<v Speaker 4>was moving slow. I was completely exhausted. When I came

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<v Speaker 4>out on the long road back to our base camp.

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<v Speaker 3>I came out.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe six seven hundred yards up the road from where

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<v Speaker 4>I had entered, because I knew basically my direction, so

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<v Speaker 4>I was staring at my footprints. I was more concerned

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<v Speaker 4>with just getting back. That's all I really wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>do at that point was just get back. In the meantime,

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<v Speaker 4>I had composed myself to where I wasn't gonna just

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<v Speaker 4>come walking up to the guys that waving my arms

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<v Speaker 4>and going, guys, you're not gonna believe what happened. You

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<v Speaker 4>have no idea what happened to me or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I just said, I'm going to tell them what happened,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm just gonna try to take it nice and cool.

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<v Speaker 4>As soon as I walked back up to base camp,

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<v Speaker 4>Bob and Dwight asked me. They said, to how did

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<v Speaker 4>your walk go? And I said, I think it went

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<v Speaker 4>really good. I said, I think I found a legitimate footprint.

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<v Speaker 4>That's when Bob said, did you hear that scream or

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<v Speaker 4>that yell? And I said, oh, yeah, I heard it.

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<v Speaker 4>I said it was like thirty forty yards from me

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<v Speaker 4>when I heard it. We caught the audio pretty good

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<v Speaker 4>on my audio recorder, even though my audio recorder was

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<v Speaker 4>probably a quarter mile I will guess a quarter mile

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<v Speaker 4>from where I ended up at and it got screamed at.

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<v Speaker 4>But from where base camp was to where it screamed

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<v Speaker 4>at me was comfortably three quarters of a mi all

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<v Speaker 4>I would say comfortably. And that's when Bob said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he said, I heard it all the way back here.

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<v Speaker 4>So if that tells you anything, this was a very loud,

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<v Speaker 4>very dominating sound that came out of the forest.

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<v Speaker 3>I never got to see it.

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<v Speaker 4>And Bob and I came back down a few months

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<v Speaker 4>ago to the exact same location and we tried to

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<v Speaker 4>recreate our steps to go back out there, and unfortunately

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<v Speaker 4>we couldn't do so because the water level was so high.

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<v Speaker 4>It was knee high in places, and we didn't bring

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<v Speaker 4>chest waiters with us. We weren't anticipating that much water

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<v Speaker 4>level to be there. We had much on and that

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<v Speaker 4>type of thing, but we were specifically going out there,

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<v Speaker 4>or at least I was specifically going to retrace my

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<v Speaker 4>tracks and then hopefully see some more activity or see

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<v Speaker 4>if there's anything else going on out there. But the

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<v Speaker 4>swamp had turned back into the swamp. But that was

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<v Speaker 4>the scariest that I've ever been in my entire life,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've had some scary instances, but this time it

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<v Speaker 4>was beyond scary for me.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my story.