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Speaker 1: All right, welcome hobbyists to Valentine's Day edition of Hobby

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Hotline and with me for this week's episode. I've got

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none other than Uncle Rich Kleine in Orlando, a collector's

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dream to a favorites in the hobby. So how both

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of you guys doing on this fine Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's a rainy day in DFW area, so it's

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a nice day just to stay inside and stay warm.

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I actually turned the heat on. I don't live in

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Paradise like Orlando does.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's totally different here. It's a beautiful I've got

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the ac on. I just went off for a walk

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and come back like about a few minutes before. We

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got a good walk listening to a lot of the

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YouTube it's fun.

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Speaker 1: Is there enough good YouTube stuff now? You know, apologize

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to non community YouTubers. It is, you know, Hall of

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Fame season, so it is flooded with the not enjoyable

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to watch for someone not in the community Hall of

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Fame videos.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I was watching some of those nominations and

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got a whole crew of my buddies out in California

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getting together for the West Coast Card Show. It's a

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big show out there so great from mid Life just

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put out a video there with a bunch of guys.

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Dylan is out there, Pino Man is out there. Yeah,

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I think Tony was coming out to collect Yea, A

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ton of guys are out there, almost kind of like

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they do at Philly get Together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it should be nice. So you guys got anything

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on your plans for this weekend outside of this show?

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Speaker 2: I have a actually because it's gonna rain. It's gonna

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rain all day. Well, if my wife and I do anything,

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it'll be tomorrow night instead of battling tonight and I

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my synagogue's monthly brotherhood breakfast will be tomorrow morning. So

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that's i'd be. My social life is you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be probably going up to dinner to my

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wife out and married now over forty five years. So

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I think some of the some things like that you got.

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Speaker 2: Well, we are very we are very practical in this household.

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We're okay not actually going out on Valentine's Day. If

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we do, we'll do something lighter and then we'll save

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a better dinner, so when they're not jacking up the prices.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my wife and I are twenty seven years and

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I think it's gonna be a weekend of doing home projects.

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So it's very remain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, I got almost like a triple header. Come,

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it's Valentine's Day, next weekend is her birthday, and the

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following weekend is our anniversary.

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Speaker 2: Well happens to me in June. My birthday is fifteen

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days before anniversary. So a lot of times some you know,

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a lot of decent places send you birthday coupons. Well,

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what's the good anniversary dinners? Because I just use those,

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you know, as I said, we're practical. Hey, if I

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can save fifty dollars on an expensive dinner and we

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still get the good dinner, I'm all in favor of that.

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You know, Hey, got to save money for the cards exactly.

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Speaker 3: You can do a lot damn fifty dollar box.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I found some good at the last dollar boxes.

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The funny story is the guy's telling me and he

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had posted on Facebook he had put a whole bunch

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of vintage into the dollar boxes. There might be some

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high numbers in there, and as I think I pointed

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out on the last show, there were about fifteen sixty

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one high numbers in probably five or you know, probably

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five or six condition in there. It's like, thank you,

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that's that pays for everything I picked up from that box.

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Speaker 1: Well, I gave us enough time to get some people

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into the show, So now I think it's time to

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say hi to the chat out there. We got some

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of our regulars. Melissa Hello, Sports Card Queen, Good morning, Peter,

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Phil nicro Fan, Good morning, Chris See four, Welcome, Ruben Snyder,

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Confluence Cards, Welcome the Chippindale's Crew. I don't think so, sir.

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Speaker 2: No, no, we are the mature Chippindale's Crew.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, sure, foul Ball, good morning, Mad City Brew.

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We got Andy's addic, Philly Joe, Mookie Chilson in the house,

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Adams Card closet, have yourself a Chipper day Hammer forty four,

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Good morning, Craig's Cards, and I think we're cut up.

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There we go. So it is a Lomer hobby week

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this week, isn't it? Without any crazy ultra crazy controversies.

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So we got some mild their topics for this week's episode.

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Then what's been happening over the last few months. But

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to start things out, we have got some new pricing

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and turnaround times posted by by some folks would say

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the Evil Empire. Other folks are completely you know, dedicated fans,

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but it is none of the PSA. If you haven't

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seen it, I've got it ready to share on screen

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what they've done now. So their value bulk went up

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twenty one four ninety nine. Value went up five bucks

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value plus up five bucks value max five bucks, regular

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five bucks. And their turnaround times for the ones they

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actually post have gone up five days a piece. And

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you know, as per usual, I guess valuable can value

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is what nine months to a year. I don't know

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what the hell they're doing these days. But yeah, so

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is this much of a story or is this just

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going to be business as usual and they rake in

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more dollars? I mean thoughts Orlando.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely a way to rake in more dollars these guys,

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I don't care what you say, but it's pretty much

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a monopoly now. They can do whatever they want. It

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seems like, you know, Dave found an opportunity to raise

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the price and if they get in a little bit

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less cards as they're just overloaded and over flooded with

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the amount of business that they're getting. So you know,

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for us regular guys, it hurts. The five dollars even

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though I don't submit, but the people that do regularly

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then you know, five dollars per card, you know, adds

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up to a lot of money holding their cards for

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you can imagine probably six months or so, even though

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they say their turn around time is less, you know,

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not going to get your cards back with it, especially

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the value bulk, it's going to take another six months

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for you to get your cards. So to be without

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your cards for six months, I think that's ridiculous, and

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continue to raise the prices, but people will continue to

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continue to send them the business and what I think

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it will do is people will begin to send cards

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in at the higher levels to get them back. Especially

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the guys are going to be flipping cards, the modern cards.

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They're going to be paying additional money, you know, and

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of course all that eventually passes on to the consumer.

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If somebody's got to pay another ten, twenty or thirty

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bucks more to get their card graded, they're going to

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jack up the price of the card they're going to sell.

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And with all the stuff being opened, you know, it's

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I think it's just going to continue to feed the

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feed the beast, as they say, and you know, they

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have people like, for example, Backyard Brakes, they're about they're

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in book, they're about a mile away from you say,

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you know, Grady Well used to be the SGC, which

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is not PSA's building. And you know, my understanding is

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that they'll break the cards and they'll go ahead and

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take them over and get them graded. And they get

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them graded in less than a week because they have

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a special deal with them and pay a lot of

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money to get them graded. Because the cards are going

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to pull out of packs, you know, they're gonna they're

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gonna flip them. So these flippers want these cards graded

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and get their tens right away so they can flip

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them and be the first to market. And as long

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as they have people like that that will pay, you know,

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the higher rate to get them back within a few days,

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which Backyard Breaks is one of the biggest breakers out there,

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and they're sending them hundreds of cards every week. You

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know they don't they'll do that, but what that does

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is all up all of the regular submission guys because

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they'll continue to get flooded with that. And now with

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the Pokemon which they're grading, it used to be about

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half pokemon, it's almost like three quarters of their cards.

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Speaker 1: Now, oh yeah, LA generate numbers. Yes, it's gone nuts.

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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. So those are easy to grade for them

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with the rounded corners, and most of them get nines,

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er tens. Most of them are getting get tense, and

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people can continue to send them in and they're just

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raking in the dough. I don't think it's going to

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make any difference in the submission rate. It's just going

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to hurt the person that's doing the value, the guys

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that don't have the big bucks to you know, to

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pay the faster submission and stuff like that. So it's

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always what always happens. The little guys suffer longer, wait tops,

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more money, But the guys that do the flipping and

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all that stuff, they don't care. They'll make their money

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and PSA will continue to prosper.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Orlando, any differing opinions or anything else to interject

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on this one, Rich.

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Speaker 2: As I pointed out in our green room chat before this,

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this was also noted on several of the YouTube videos

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that I watched or listened to that get at the

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last Dallas Card Show raised their raw card review price

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from twenty five dollars to sixty five dollars. Now you

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would think price jumps like that would name that they

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you know, nobody would be bringing cards and as lead

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course always say not so fast, my friend. The line

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literally took hours on Thursday night and they were jammed

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the entire weekend with people bringing in cards to Beckett.

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It was absolutely bonkers. I thought, for sure, Okay, they're

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gonna have less people. No, not even close. Will we'll

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buy the cards, we'll sell the cards. We'll still be

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doing graded cards. And one thing that will never happen again.

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And this is kind of sad, but pre pandemic what

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in Orlando. You'll know this better than I was, was

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it's like six dollars or eight dollars in bulk for

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PSA cards. We will never see that pricing again. No,

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And that is a fact of life. This is capitalism.

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You know, you have to do things to meet your demand.

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When I first started at COMMC in twenty seventeen, nine

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years ago, we were charging a quarter a card to

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process cards. If we charge the quarter a card today

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to process cards, we would lose money on the processing

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of arts. Sometimes you have to raise your prices just

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to just stay in business. Now I can't say what's

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going on. But PSA has a lot of employees, they

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have a lot of offices, they have a lot of overhead.

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And I'm going to kind of go back to my

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beck At days when I say this, we had about

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a fifty percent success rate in getting when I was

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working in the price Guide division, we had about a

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fifty percent success rate of analysts. About fifty percent became

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good and about fifty percent washed out. Now I'm not

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saying they all wash out. Boston Hunter did a great

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interview with a PSA greater, which when I listened to it,

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it wasn't anything controversial. Most of what he said made

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a lot of sense to me because I have stack.

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Even though it was a long time ago, I did

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sit one afternoon a month or two afternoons a month

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in the Beckett grading room helping basically with difficult verification.

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And his process and the process he told was basically correct,

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But he didn't stay. How you know, not only do

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you have to get grads, you have to make sure

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they're good, you have to make sure they stick. You

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have to make sure that they can handle the workload.

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And it's and that's and let's let's assume that the

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fifty percent not great success rate we had at Beckett

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is low for a grader. Maybe it's a sixty percent, right,

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You still don't have to hire more graders. You have

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to train them, and that's an expense in itself. So

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on a corporate level, it sounds terrible for the consumer.

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And I'm sure Chris Carlon can explain this a lot

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better than I can, but it's sometimes things that have

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to be done just so a company can keep their

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head about water. Do we ever want to see PSA

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where they shut down their local post office system again

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and basically had box You know the photo Nat Turner

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showed during the pandemic of all the boxes that weren't

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even close to being open, sitting on the floor and

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he had to shut down the submissions, which I thought

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was a terrible idea, but in retrospect, was the right

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thing to do. I hate to say this, but we're

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not going back to those days, and we're not going

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back to those days where we're going to shut down

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a post office in a city. Either. You have to

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make calculated business decisions as to how you stay in business,

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and that for me it doesn't really matter. I don't

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I go in value boxes. It doesn't affect my life

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one way or the other. There are people it effects,

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and as Orlando pointed out, like, for example, mister Daniels,

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the Commander's quarterback. He started the year as the super

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one of those super hot quarterbacks. He got hurt. If

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you sent in a card at the beginning of the

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football season and you got it back now, the price

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is probably nowhere near where it was when you sent

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in the card, So there's got to Eventually the balance

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will come. Maybe someday the balance will eave now and

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we get slightly lower prices again. But we're not going

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back to six and eight dollars. We may end up

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back at fifteen. But it's corporate then, it's a business

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as capitalism, And I'm sorry for those people that can't

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do that. And believe me, I've priced out a lot

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of things in the hobby too. I used to do

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and it sucks.

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Speaker 1: But life's like that, all right. Remember everyone, this is

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a call in show and we have a special call

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in right now that I am going to bring on screen.

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Welcome Greg Midlife.

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Speaker 4: Oh Greg, hey, guys. West Coast Card show is pretty good.

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I got to say it's pretty good, way more vintage

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than I was told, way less Pokemon than I was told.

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Speaker 5: It has been. It has been really fun. So I just.

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Speaker 4: Wanted to give a little report on how this is

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going here. But there's some good stuff in the room.

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I didn't drop a video this morning, so after this

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is over, check that out. But there's some good stuff here,

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really good.

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Speaker 3: I start a video Greg and congrats on big pickup

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you got.

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Speaker 4: Oh the trade Oh the Sitting Bowl card?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the trade card.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the trade was big. The Sitting Bowl was cool.

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A couple other people in the community got some big stuff,

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but I'll wait for their channel to reveal that we

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had a fun dinner last fight.

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Speaker 2: Which Super Bowl card did you get? I did not

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watch your video.

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Speaker 4: So that Native American set that's Alan and Ginter eighteen

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eighty eight.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's good. That's a good card.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The two big cards of the Geronimo card and the

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Sitting Bowl card. And this card walked up to a

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table and the guy did a trade for it, and

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then I immediately said it's raw.

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Speaker 5: I was like, what do you want for it?

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Speaker 4: And he was like, I would do two fifty if

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the card gets a one point five, which it won't.

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Speaker 5: It'll get a one.

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Speaker 4: But if we got a one point five, it's like

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a six hundred and fifty dollar card. If it gets

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a one, it's probably a four hundred and fifty dollars card.

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If it gets an authentic, it's a three hundred dollars card.

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So I was like, this is my affordable way to

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get this cool card.

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Speaker 1: All right. I was told to ask here by Peter

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b if you're now collecting Indians because he thought you

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were a Yankees fan.

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Speaker 4: That's actually pretty funny. No, I'm I will. First of all,

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it's the Guardians. Everybody we need to, you know, move on.

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I did use Native Americans. I'm I'm trying to be

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as good as I can. But I don't know. There

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are a lot of cool cards in that set. I mean,

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it's a beautiful set. I don't think I'm gonna build it,

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but I'm not opposed to picking up.

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Speaker 5: More of them.

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Speaker 3: Well, Mookie had a great comment. Mookie said that Greg

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is full of bull.

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Speaker 4: Well, Mookie's full of a lot of something too, But

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I love MOOKI so I'll just kind of keep that

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between us. But I am meaning up with mister Mike

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Petty right now. So what I'm gonna try to do.

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I'm a hopefully service will stay and you can say,

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hey the petty real quick.

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Speaker 2: Well, we like Mookie. He's a fellow person like I

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am from New Jersey, so we like Mookie. He he

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gets to go twice a month to one of the

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best card shows of the one best smaller card shows

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in the country, the Guardfield Card Shop, which is usually

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the first and third Sunday of any month. And it's

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it's really and it's supported the Boys and Girls Club

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for more than thirty years. And Gary is a really

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good guy that runs the show. And all right, I

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got Rob and his team do a really good job

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running the show. They've taken very seriously and they know

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what collectors want. I know, Rob for the story.

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Speaker 4: Right now, hotline, what's not there?

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Speaker 6: Guys? Oh goodness, See, all right, I should go We're

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gonna have breakfast.

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Speaker 4: But you're right, The Garfield Show is a really good show.

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Sammy goes a lot, Mookie goes a lot. I know

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Layton was there a couple of weeks ago. So those

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guys are lucky that they get.

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Speaker 5: To go to that. You're lucky to go to that.

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I'm jealous.

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Speaker 2: I get the Dallas Card Show six times a year,

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plus we have some good local shows too, so I'm

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very lucky here too. Now, fifteen years ago we had

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three or four shows period a year. This is much better.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, And seriously about this West Coast Card Show, like,

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I wasn't expecting much from the vintage part of it,

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but it's it's really good. It's it's been really fun,

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and there's a lot more dealers, and they're dealers that

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I didn't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know about.

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Speaker 4: They only set up here, so it's like they're not

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national dealers, they're not guys on you know, online selling stuff.

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They just kind of sell it this one show. And

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so it's been fun to kind of meet those guys

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and see their inventory. And with those guys are who

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I tried to feature yesterday or this morning in my

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video because people they'll they're new to you know who.

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A lot of people are used to seeing some of

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Ash's inventory.

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Speaker 5: People are like, yeah, I know some of it.

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Speaker 4: But these couple of guys like they're like, I don't

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sell anywhere except for at this show. So I was like, well,

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let's let's show some of their stuff.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, all right, one last A couple of people

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have asked if the show is crowded.

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Speaker 5: Well, yesterday it wasn't that bad. And I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 4: The aisles are really wide, like the interior of the room.

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It's a very comfortable room. It's a very modern room.

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The isles are super wide, so like you know, right

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at the entrance to CIA diamond Yard, George dimon Yard

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is there and we're just sitting there talking with him

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with a bunch of us around the table, and it's

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like moving through the room is really easy. Much wider

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aisles than even the National. So I wouldn't say it's crowded.

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if it was crowded, we wouldn't You wouldn't feel it

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because they just lay out the room really well. And

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then all the way along the wall are all of

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like the like the corporate booths, so like card ladders

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here and Comse and Beckett and PSA, and they're all

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around the well there's no SG and they're all around

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the edge on the wall, and so it makes it

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easy to access those guys without there being like a

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corporate area that you've got to navigate.

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Speaker 5: It's pretty cool he does. He did a really good job.

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Speaker 2: And to Rob and his team's credit, a few years ago,

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they had a they had a show. I think it

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was one of the one in Anaheim where they put

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all the corporates on a separate floor.

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Speaker 4: And I went so years years ago, I went to

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a big Anaheim show. It was like nineteen eighty eight

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or eighty nine. The Angels hosted the All Star Game

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that weekend, I think it was eighty nine, and we

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came down because there was a huge show in the

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Convention Center.

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Speaker 5: And that building's good too.

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Speaker 4: But it's two floors and this is like this is

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like the perfect size. There's two rooms, but it kind

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of feels like one room. It's like the perfect sized room.

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It's all on one floor. Like it's a good location.

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Like I was kind of like, why is he going

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all the way to Ontario? This is an hour and

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a half from Burbank, Like this is way southeast of Burbank.

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But then once you get in the room, you're like

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that it makes sense. It's a really good room. There's

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four or five hotels right across the street. Like we're

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walking across the parking lot, like literally next door to

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this double tree that I'm in front of with these

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palm trees is literally across the parking lot from the

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convention center. And there are several hotels, like I know,

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Jeremy Lee was I think seeing at the sheare it

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in and there's like four or five, Like I can

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see right from where I'm sitting, there's four or five

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and they're nice, clean, they're good hotels.

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Speaker 5: So like the elevators work and everything well.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, if you're in California and you're an

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hour and a half from Burbank to Ontario, you're gonna

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get totally you can also get a totally different audience

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because anybody who's ever driven in LA can tell you

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it's not fun. It is. You'll still be in traffic jam.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's insane down here. And they've got toll

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roads and stuff. Now, so hey, look at this guy.

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Speaker 5: Look who it is?

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Speaker 1: What's the fella? And Joe Barrow.

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Speaker 2: Card?

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Speaker 4: You know that.

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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keep by the breakfast and then we got to enter

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the show at ten.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go. Thank you, for letting me hop on.

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Speaker 4: Love you guys, everybody in the chat love you too,

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even Mookie.

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Speaker 5: So all right, I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in. Thanks guys, all right, it seems

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like a fun time, all right. Uh final nail. I

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think on this first topic though, is uh I'm just conjecturing.

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You know, some of the people are posting of like

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stop sending in cheap cards. Honestly, with the volume they get,

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what percentage of submission of their total submissions do you

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think are even lower case collectors. I think it's less

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than five percent, and it's all people that are going

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to resell the cards. You guys think anything different.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the numbers, but but you know, if

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it stops people, frankly from sending an eighty eight top

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common cards or in baseball or football, that's probably not

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the worst thing in the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's funny because I called junk wax cards.

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If you notice in a tens their values have gone

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up incredibly and there just aren't many of them because

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people weren't sending. So I don't know, maybe people are

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beginning to send a lot more of those in seeing

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that the values have gone up a lot on some

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of these, you know, joke wax cards in PSA ten

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even Yeah, and I.

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Speaker 1: Don't think these life belts put any dent in the

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people trying to play the PSA ten lottery game. So,

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you know.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing to consider is will collectors ever

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go public? You know, you do want to show a

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positive story to people. You know if when the IPO

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comes in, and if you do that and you're able

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to show a constant increase in revenue, you will get

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more money in your IPO. So we have to look

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at it not just in terms of that, but in

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terms of the future as well. And it's something it's

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something to always consider. I always so people think about

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this on a business level. I wish I could go

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back by and get PSA cards for eight dollars each,

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but that's not happening.

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Speaker 1: I would agree with one million cubs here that people

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that are collectors that send in that stuff don't realize

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they're going to come back and get like a seven

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or an eight on their card that they have had

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some their kids even though A in its nine pocket

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sleeve all these years. So but all right, next topic

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is TOPS twenty twenty six relief and with that the

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biggest news coming out of it is that they are

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putting what they have deemed the top seventy five baseball

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cards as redemptions in the packs. And as far as

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how they deemed that they put together a panel of

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folks here which included none of them Hobby Hotline contributor

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right there, doctor Beckett so as well as Nat Turner

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from the previous story. So but if anybody is wondering

476
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,119
what cards we're talking about, they do show them on

477
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,880
the Top's website now. And these were deemed what they

478
00:25:55,079 --> 00:26:00,640
said were the top ten, which the schemes one on one.

479
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,559
So I don't think that's a giveaway. But uh, I'm

480
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,519
asking that the.

481
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,079
Speaker 2: Scheens is a giveaway the Ski maybe not that specific card,

482
00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:10,640
but there is a Scheens giveaway card.

483
00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:13,279
Speaker 1: Oh, they're still giving away some sort of autograph.

484
00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:17,599
Speaker 2: Specially there's there's this that is a Skeens giveaway card.

485
00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I looked at the checklate last night. They're

486
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:24,640
not giving away all the top seventy five, a limited

487
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,839
amount of them. You can go look at the checklist.

488
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,200
It's like a thirty page checklist and it says all

489
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,759
the cards are going awagh and it's not all the

490
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,000
five and the way they're doing it all redemption. They're

491
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:38,559
all going to be graded and slabbed. Of course, they

492
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:41,960
don't mention what the grades are of the ones they're

493
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,039
going to give away. But you know what I've heard already. Yes,

494
00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:50,000
somebody already pulled the two May redemption, so that one's

495
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:52,880
already gone, and we'll have to find out what grade

496
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,240
that they are graded. Cards are going to be sent

497
00:26:55,319 --> 00:26:57,000
back to the person who pulled those.

498
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta say, is I don't really are Rodriguez.

499
00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:02,000
If you get that card, better be a very high grade,

500
00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:05,000
because that could be the lowest value card of the

501
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:05,680
whole group.

502
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,079
Speaker 1: Uh not if they're also including some of these eighties cards,

503
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,119
including none other than the very special I saw when

504
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,440
I scan this earlier right there, Future Stars Greg Jeffries.

505
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, good point. Okay, I'll accept that. Yeah, that's probably

506
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,759
not even as good as a sixty nine Last Series card,

507
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,400
even if there is a really difficult to tell variation

508
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:33,839
on the eighty nine tops Greg Jeffries card of how

509
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,319
the Future Stars notation is picked is as on the card,

510
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,000
there's like a millimeters difference between where they are now.

511
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't have any on front, Frank Thomas that would.

512
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,079
Speaker 3: Be going to be there.

513
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

514
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: And what I like about it is when they did

515
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,200
the buybacks before, they used to have that stamp, that

516
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:55,160
gold stamp on the cards. So but these are going

517
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,599
to be original cards with no stamp on them, and

518
00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:00,559
they're going to be slabbed. So you know, I guess

519
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,920
that's a good thing. Even though some people, a lot

520
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,680
of people like the friend Shane Shoebox Slashes loves the buybacks.

521
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,079
Speaker 2: I love the buybacks.

522
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, original cards, you know, I say, were in the

523
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,359
old days versus the stamp. But yeah, buy backs are cool.

524
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 2: I bought two. I bought two Heritage packs at one

525
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,599
of the waxed stores the other day, and in the

526
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,640
Heritage pack, I got a Glenn Borgman stamped buy back

527
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,880
card in twenty twenty five Heritage and I was thrilled

528
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,920
because for the people from New Jersey, if they look

529
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,279
at the back of his card, Glenn Borgman was from Patterson,

530
00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:41,559
New Jersey, So all you people who go to the

531
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:44,519
Garfield card Show should be looking for his cards. That

532
00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:46,839
that's not going to happen. He was a backup Twins catcher,

533
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,160
but it was just a cool card to get out

534
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,160
of the pack. And the thing is, there are so

535
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,359
many seventy six TOPS cards out there that a card

536
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,279
with a stamp on it has to be a much

537
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,119
tougher card than the seventy six And I think I

538
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,880
put on the net fifty four boards there there is

539
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,559
some value that I don't want the cards stamped. Above

540
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:09,880
you just get the card. But you know, if it's

541
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,480
Greg Jeffries, you stamped the card to your heart's content,

542
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,519
it's gonna make it worth a dollar or three instead

543
00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:18,400
of the ten cents or quarter it is, and it

544
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:21,319
enhances the value for those people to collect those cards.

545
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:25,480
So I'm okay with stamp cards, but I'm also okay

546
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:28,440
with these cards not being close to being stamped. I

547
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,319
don't want I don't want that May stamped in any way.

548
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a common bome a two mantle stamped,

549
00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:36,880
and of course you know that would well I don't

550
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,759
know if it would reduce the value and probably make

551
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:41,559
it one. But still don't want those cards, all.

552
00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:47,319
Speaker 1: Right, question out for the chat, just for fun, what's

553
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:52,000
your favorite looking TOPS card of all time? So you know,

554
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:56,279
regardless of value, which one is your favorite TOPS card? So,

555
00:29:56,759 --> 00:30:01,359
but I mean, this is this adequate it for a celebration?

556
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,559
I mean, is it is it going to move the

557
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:07,240
needle for these packs at all? I mean I heard

558
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,160
someone talking that when they had ninety one, they did

559
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,240
a thing where you could win every Tops card of

560
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,200
all time prior to that, so.

561
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:19,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, at one time they had the Honese Wagner. Literally

562
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,480
somebody actually won a Honese Wagner and it was the

563
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:26,799
Gretzky Wagner. He ended up giving away and a post person,

564
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:29,680
a post lady. I think that ended up a postman

565
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:32,640
won it and immediately sold it. But I do think

566
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,839
it's a great idea. I mean, it's great to see

567
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:38,480
the you know, most of these cards percent are going

568
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:41,079
to be opened up by breaker, which is really the

569
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,359
norm now, and I'd like to see those breakers, you know,

570
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:47,720
share some of these vintage cards and hopefully it will

571
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,400
get some of these young guys to get more involved

572
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,519
in vintage cards and want to go out and buy

573
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:54,640
some each cards. So I think it's a good way

574
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,039
to expose expose these new guys a new breaker dudes

575
00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:03,160
to the stuff. And there's also a lot of other doings.

576
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,759
They're also giving away tickets to different events. They're giving

577
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:10,759
away tickets to the All Star Game, tickets to the

578
00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:16,039
World Series, all as redemption. They're giving away also redemptions

579
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:20,599
to TOPS and a few seventy five dollars credit money

580
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,920
as TOPS credits to buy TOPS products. So and they're

581
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,160
giving away a lot of different package. Certain teams are doing,

582
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:33,440
like the Pirates are doing a Pirates Gift package, which

583
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,599
involves tickets to the games and memorabilia and jerseys and

584
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,240
things like that also as redemption. So it's not just

585
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:45,319
the vintage cards that redeem for, but it's also kind

586
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:50,640
of events and money if you get the credits for

587
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,240
buying TOPS products, So it's more than just the cards,

588
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,079
which is a good thing. And if you look at

589
00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:59,240
the checklist, you'll see all the different giveaways that they're

590
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,000
having there, not just a vintage cards.

591
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: A couple of things. One the person who did sell

592
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,880
the Wagner card when she won it sold it because

593
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,799
the tax issue that was like I've got to pay

594
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:12,720
the taxes on that card. I better sell that card

595
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,599
and have money for to pay the taxes. You know

596
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:19,480
you can't do both. Oh yes, unless you have a

597
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:21,039
lot of money, then you can win it.

598
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: And you figure taxes on winning that, right, I mean

599
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,640
or at the time, how many million? How much was

600
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,680
that card deemed work?

601
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,599
Speaker 2: That was that was the Thame PSA card, which is

602
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,799
now ten million dollars or more. I think Ken Kendrick

603
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:38,759
still has it. I think he paid three million, but

604
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:40,920
I think it's at least a ten million dollar card.

605
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:43,839
I mean that specific card has a book written about

606
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,759
for crying out laud Yeah, and so in those days

607
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:50,160
it was like six hundred thousand. So you're paying taxes

608
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,480
on six hundred thousand.

609
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,319
Speaker 1: Dollars, which is still probably close to six if not.

610
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:57,519
Speaker 2: Yes, twenty, if you're on the twenty seven percent tax rate,

611
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:59,559
it's one hundred and sixty two thousand dollars.

612
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: There you go.

613
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit different times now because you know,

614
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:06,440
these breakers are paying taxes on the cards that are

615
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,640
being pulled out of pack. So that one, because it

616
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,359
was a whole national thing it was. But whoever pulls

617
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,960
this fifty, you know, I don't see them paying any

618
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:17,759
tax on that, even though it's kind of a you know,

619
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,799
a lottery win most like winning the lotto we have.

620
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,759
Speaker 2: I know Chris Harris is in the audience. He can

621
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,960
since he's worked for the government. He can probably tell

622
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,119
us more officially than you and I on that. But

623
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,759
I still should have to pay your tax on it.

624
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:33,599
But that that's just my opinion.

625
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: It does seem like it's too high profile for the

626
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,599
government to not go for some money attached to that.

627
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,319
Speaker 2: Hey, the government will go for money on just about anything.

628
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:44,759
Speaker 5: Yeah.

629
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,759
Speaker 2: But here's the other thing. I opened a blaster but

630
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,839
I went to my local wax card store, which is

631
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,319
down the block, maybe five minutes from my house, and

632
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:56,319
on Thursday, I bought a blaster box because it's like, Okay,

633
00:33:56,359 --> 00:33:57,960
I'm going to be out and about anyway for a

634
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,960
few minutes. Let me buy a blaster box. It's open,

635
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,960
It'll get my twenty twenty six Tops Jones taken care of.

636
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:09,039
The cards are really the cards are really attractive. They're

637
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:11,719
easy to read. You know, at a certain age you

638
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,239
want cards that are readable. Twenty twenty one Tops I

639
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,400
think was not readable front or back. I don't The

640
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,280
name wasn't really readable and the card number wasn't really readable.

641
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:23,719
You want one or the other that had zero for

642
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,760
two this they are both readable. They did a really

643
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,800
good job. The design looks nice. I'm a fan of

644
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,760
the design, and I'm a fan of how readable everything is.

645
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,840
And they did the same thing with Flagship Basketball. It

646
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:41,639
was very readable, and so that was and as that,

647
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,360
And I pulled even a card number to twenty five.

648
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,920
It was a leader card. Nobody great, no no judge

649
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,679
or show hey on the card, but you know, a

650
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,360
decent enough Leader's card.

651
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: But I was very happy.

652
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: I had a blaster box getting a card number to

653
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:55,119
twenty five.

654
00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 5: Great?

655
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,679
Speaker 1: Would they get a few responses to my query with

656
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:05,760
the people having the prettiest card? Melissa loves the fifty

657
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,679
two mantle. I know that's a favorite of yours, Orlando,

658
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,280
it cometh an egg. The interesting response of eighty two

659
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,519
tops Brian Downing, which made me then go straight to Google.

660
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,440
So there we go.

661
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,599
Speaker 2: That is Brian Downing lives in the DFW area now.

662
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,079
When he ended his crew with the Rangers, he liked

663
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:30,199
this area so much he moved.

664
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,119
Speaker 1: Here, all right. Fun fact, then we've got a fifty

665
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:39,199
nine usual. That's that's a nice looking card with the

666
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,400
blue border on that one, isn't it? Stan? What else

667
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,039
we've got anybody else put something out here? I'm not

668
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,559
seeing it, all right, So so do either of you

669
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:56,840
guys still buy the packs. Oh yep, there is the

670
00:35:57,199 --> 00:35:59,440
thanks for Orlando usual.

671
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. As I pointed out, I did buy a blaster box,

672
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,639
and next week will be the TOPS Rip Night, so

673
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,679
I'm sure I'll be getting some more TOP stuff next week.

674
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,719
You know, the stores they have a little party for that,

675
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,320
and we can talk about that next week. That'll be

676
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,000
a topic for next week. But they do have TOPS

677
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:22,960
Rip Night next Saturday, which is always a fun event.

678
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,400
You know this. You know, Tops gets store stuff and

679
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:28,119
the stores do have to pay for it in a

680
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:31,360
lot of cases, but there's stuff Tops gets to the stores,

681
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,400
and there's prizes that they also send, and it becomes

682
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,599
like a you know, a communal event and it's a

683
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:40,480
lot of fun and there's usually, depending on the store,

684
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:44,360
pizza or other foods and drinks and you get a

685
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,320
In the previous years, I've got on a blaster box

686
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,559
when you walk in the door and you know you're

687
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,639
you're with other collectors, and I think that's a great,

688
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,559
great thing to do. So I know next week I'll

689
00:36:56,559 --> 00:36:58,519
be doing that and that. In fact, next week I

690
00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:01,960
have a doubleheader of a the second biggest local Dallas

691
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,559
area card show, The NTX card show will be next

692
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:08,679
Saturday and Sunday, and then I will go to Ripnite.

693
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:12,320
So that's that's a great card. By the way, even

694
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,599
if it's even if it's scored, the black and white

695
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:15,559
bow is a great card.

696
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

697
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: My favorite TOPS card of all time isn't a baseball card.

698
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,760
And I double clicked on it to make sure I

699
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,800
was right, and you can pull it up. I just

700
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,639
for whatever reason, I just love the design. It's a

701
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:32,719
basketball card from a team I can't stand a of

702
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,719
a really minor player who had one brief moment of

703
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,039
fame because he played really well in a three overtime

704
00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:43,159
NBA Finals game seventy and so I'm gonna have you

705
00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:45,960
pull it up to show seventy five seventy six Tops

706
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,079
Phil Hankinson card. For whatever reason, that card just strikes

707
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:52,320
me as like the perfect and as a post shot.

708
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,440
It's not an action or anything, but it just struck

709
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:56,119
me as one of the prettiest cards I've ever seen

710
00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:56,599
in my life.

711
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: Belling on that last name.

712
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: Hankinson h A NK I M so O M okay.

713
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,719
It's a basketball card for those all.

714
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:10,079
Speaker 1: Right, let's share again. Is that the right one.

715
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,159
Speaker 2: That's the right one.

716
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:15,519
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a different What is he standing in?

717
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,639
Speaker 2: That's the point. It's such a cool design and a

718
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,760
cool background and everything, and you know, it's nothing. It's

719
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,440
a common card. Yeah, it's a pure common card. But

720
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:30,800
it's my favorite card. It's it's it's my favorite card

721
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,280
I've ever seen. All right, there shouldn't be any reason

722
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:33,679
for that.

723
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:42,599
Speaker 7: I mean, okay, we've also got a ninety six score

724
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,400
a bip Roberts from stale Gum.

725
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: But let's check out what this.

726
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,519
Speaker 2: Well, that's a cool card.

727
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: As far as my personal favorite TOPS card, I think

728
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,000
it's still nineteen sixty Eddie Matthews.

729
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: Mine is the fifty three Nicky Talk I assume.

730
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: I mean, do you mean the Bowman or the Tops?

731
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: The Tops?

732
00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:07,559
Speaker 2: Okay, they're both. They're both really pretty cards. Yeah, both

733
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,440
Bowman and Tops and fifty three are really pretty cards.

734
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,920
You know who else is fifty three? You know who

735
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,760
else had his fifty three Tops is his favorite card?

736
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 3: Oh that's a great card.

737
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: That is a great card. But you know who else's

738
00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:22,400
favorite card was a fifty three Mantle Al Rosen the

739
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,440
basebook cart dealer.

740
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 3: I didn't know it was like the one.

741
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: Card he kept for himself.

742
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: Oh the mister Mint. Yes, okay, all right, so fun

743
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,079
little topic five.

744
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,119
Speaker 2: Tops beda pins and I'm gonna look at that too,

745
00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:42,239
because that just sounds like a that is a cool card.

746
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,960
I agree with him. That's that's a nice a nice

747
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:45,360
smile on.

748
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:51,159
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's great. So yeah, he's got some really good,

749
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,800
nice natural smile faces on a few cards I saw.

750
00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:00,519
I saw someone show something that was a larger sized

751
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:02,639
I don't know if it was a team photo pack

752
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,280
or something that had a similar really nice natural smile

753
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,039
from him.

754
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: So you know who else spelled on every one of

755
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,280
his cards, Dave Henderson.

756
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:16,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he had the interesting with the little

757
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:18,480
little gap tooth thing thing going.

758
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:23,159
Speaker 2: And if you ever Dave Henderson's cards, he's smiling hot.

759
00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:27,519
Speaker 1: All right, we're getting all kinds of extra submissions. Now

760
00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:32,320
I'm seeing sixty four tops race to Decy. Not with

761
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,039
that one either.

762
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,119
Speaker 2: We'll get the background on the SIDEKI card and you'll

763
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:37,360
see why it's a favorite.

764
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:45,119
Speaker 1: All right. Oh okay, an abbreviated ad right there at

765
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:50,840
the background, all right, nice and eighty tops Geary Carter,

766
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,039
I've got that one over on my wall and a

767
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:58,039
cloud of dust. So that's a great pick. Seventy seven

768
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:02,239
Charlie Angels. Okay, I wonder why he likes that one,

769
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,840
she's very pretty. Sixty seven earning banks. That's one of

770
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,000
his great smiling cards. Yeah, great choice there.

771
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 8: And Top, Oh no, god, indeed, Tops, to me is

772
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,800
like the worst set of the fifty.

773
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:24,599
Speaker 2: And to Top's credit, when they did Heritage in two

774
00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:27,039
thousand and seven and did that set, it looks so

775
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:29,519
much nicer, you know, they were able to use. That

776
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,800
was a set where modern technology really improved a card

777
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:36,840
compared to the original, you know, and I don't always

778
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,800
say that, but that's one where the modern technology saved

779
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:40,559
the cards.

780
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, all right, it's slowing down in the chat.

781
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,280
Thanks for all the interaction. This is a fun, fun

782
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,920
little game here pulling up these cards. So moving on

783
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,840
to our last topic. Chris from Missouri had a recent

784
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:02,360
video that stirred some conversation or where I think his

785
00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:05,719
title with something to the fact of how long can

786
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,199
we keep doing this? And it had to do with,

787
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:13,039
you know, an exit from the hobby, like how long

788
00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:16,719
are you just going to own a massive horde of cards?

789
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,719
You know, are you gonna consolidate? Are you gonna liquidate?

790
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,639
You know what, as you get older and your concern

791
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,920
might be leaving behind something that is overbearing for your

792
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,679
children or your spouse. You know, what are people's thoughts

793
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,599
on that situation? Does it even cross your mind? Do

794
00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:39,599
you just like live for the now and forget it?

795
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,679
Or you know, Orlando Light, I know you have been

796
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,679
a consolidator. Was what was going through your mind of

797
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:48,679
you know, what was the reason. Why Was it just

798
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,480
because so you could acquire big things you could before?

799
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,679
Or were you really pairing it down for your family too?

800
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,559
I mean, what's what's the thought process there?

801
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: Well? I mean I gotta also say that video about

802
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,880
that John three John Wade box venue out on. But

803
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,039
for me, no, you know, I am pairing down consolidating

804
00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:12,840
as they say, but it's it's not due to anything.

805
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,159
But for me, it's the only way that I can

806
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:18,880
get certain cards that I really wanted now that I'm

807
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:21,519
retired and living on security. It's not like I can

808
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,440
go out there a ty Cob card, but like like this,

809
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,079
the only way I could have gotten this card which

810
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:29,840
I got it was to pare down my collection and

811
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,159
sell some of the stuff that I already had, because

812
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,199
it's I couldn't save up for something like that. And

813
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,119
you know, as I get older, I've always wanted to

814
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:43,119
have cards that I could never never acquire, And because

815
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:45,159
I have such a large collection, you know, it's an

816
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:48,599
opportunity for me to go ahead and use that. To

817
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,440
be kind of, I guess it's an exit strategy consolidating.

818
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,360
I also don't want to leave tons of stuff for

819
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,360
my family. But it's not like I'm going to stop collecting.

820
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,400
I'm going to collect for the rest of my life

821
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:02,920
until until I pass away. I mean, you know, it's

822
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,280
a g for me. I have the collecting g let's

823
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,360
have that. It's not like we're going to stop all

824
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,079
of a sudden collecting. So for me, it's more the

825
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:16,719
consolidation process is more using my inventory to buy stuff

826
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,719
that I've always wanted but never been able to afford

827
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,239
and never been able to get. And as I get older,

828
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,840
you know, I'll be seventy years old this year, you know,

829
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,400
I want to get it before I die, So I

830
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,280
can't just save up and get a house Wagoner or

831
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,599
a ty Cob or you know, a cracker gack. Joe

832
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,599
Jaxon and stuff like that. So but I do have,

833
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,480
you know, two closets full of cards, a bunch of

834
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:43,920
cards in my garage that you know, are sitting in boxes,

835
00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:47,480
sitting in tubs, and I'm going to use that to

836
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,239
get cards I've always wanted. So for me, it's not

837
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,159
that I'm still going to leave the cards to my

838
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,440
family no matter what, but I'm going to use that

839
00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:01,400
to my advantage now. And so cards that I don't

840
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,519
truly love I like, but I truly love the cards

841
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:06,639
that I really wanted all my life. So that's just

842
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,719
the change that I did. But it's not really because

843
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,400
I don't want to, you know, because I'm dying or anything.

844
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,480
It's more because I want to use it to get

845
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,679
the cars that I've always wanted in my life and

846
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,760
never been able to afford.

847
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: Thanks for going into that detail, Orlando, Rich have you.

848
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 2: About all Three years ago I sold out my inventory

849
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,119
at a card show. The last two years I've I've

850
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:34,599
sold my inventory now four total times. I buy as

851
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:37,239
like Orlando says, I have fun, and then I just

852
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,119
sell it and it's fine for me. I just like

853
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,519
looking at cards. It's fun to see the cards I have.

854
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:46,760
I'm looking at them right now, and right now I

855
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,679
have two shoe boxes, two three row shoe boxes, and

856
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,079
that's what I got. And I have other stuff just

857
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:54,239
lying on the floor. In fact, one of my friends

858
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,840
came over to help me declutter and there were a

859
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,679
couple of things and I told them just take I

860
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,920
told them on Thursday, just take it. You know, they're

861
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,800
not card related, I said, just take them. And this way,

862
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,519
if you know, something happened to me tomorrow, my wife

863
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,840
doesn't have to deal with it. It's you know, the

864
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,639
less I have in the house, the better I feel, Yeah,

865
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,920
because I don't want to set, you know, you know,

866
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:18,239
saddle somebody else with what I what I would know

867
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,360
what to do. And so your exits you have to

868
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,800
think about what your own exit strategy is. And you know,

869
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,880
there's a lot of people that talk about, you know,

870
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,199
I'm going to do this till I pass, But you

871
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,039
have to think about everybody else. I mean, how often

872
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:38,719
do you hear about people finding hordes nowadays? Because nobody

873
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,199
ever wanted to deal with it, and it's a it's

874
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,639
a tricky it's a tricky thing, you know. I know

875
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,199
doctor Beckatt talks about trying to reduce by one or

876
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,679
two percent a month. Well, so that gives him eight

877
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,360
years to finish the job, and actually buying stuff helps

878
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,480
him reduce his inventory because then he can make bigger

879
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,519
eBay lots or bigger teams, bigger team lots. So you

880
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:03,360
can act actually do that, but you have to know

881
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:06,519
your own plan, and your own plan is what you

882
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:08,840
decide you want it to be. You know, Orlando, it

883
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,159
sounds like you know you have your game plan going,

884
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,239
and you know, thankfully you're healthier this year, but you

885
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,400
had a health scare last year. If that had been

886
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,880
more serious, you would have really had some serious discussions

887
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:20,639
about what to do.

888
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: Right.

889
00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:23,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be selling off a lot more, but

890
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,719
I'm still consolidating because it does get overwhelming at some point,

891
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,960
you know, you just can't keep it all. You just

892
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,760
don't look at it all, and just gets to a

893
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,800
point where you know, as you get older, you'll realize

894
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,519
you can't go through that closet and take a look

895
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:40,960
at all those five thousand boxes that you have stuck in.

896
00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:42,840
You got to find a way to start moving and

897
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:46,039
getting some of the stuff that you you've always wanted

898
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:49,280
in life. So that's my process. But yeah, Eventually, I'm

899
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,800
going to continue, like doctor Beckett, you maybe you know,

900
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,199
cut down five percent of my collection every year, but

901
00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:58,800
use that to you know kind of. I guess more

902
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,559
quality versus already is what I'm trying to achieve.

903
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: And then when the time comes, your wife for your

904
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,519
kids can have a very basic, easy thing to do

905
00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:13,039
that's easy for them to buy and sell or to

906
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:16,079
sell and say, okay, this, I'll hope my kids education

907
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,679
and as as an inheritance, that's one thing they don't

908
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:21,480
have to worry about the taxes on it, because if

909
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,679
they do it as an inheritance, it's like Okay, I've

910
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,400
made X thousands and you're okay, and you're.

911
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and I have I've written down list of

912
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,119
what to do with with my cards. There's a couple

913
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:37,159
of option houses they can send them to and some

914
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:41,719
hobby friends that they can contact to help liquidate with

915
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,039
my collection eventually, but I don't see that happening anytime.

916
00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:49,880
Were feeling good, Hope, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling pretty

917
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,119
much back to normal from from my cancer issue.

918
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, John, I have re entered this only five

919
00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:03,199
years ago, and I came with having a limited space

920
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,280
where I could even store my cards, and I entered

921
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,280
it with the approach of I don't want to buy

922
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,800
anything and put it in a box. So I am

923
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,719
already doing a little more limited collection, and everything I

924
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,480
buy goes into a case on the wall behind me,

925
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:24,440
which I only have this into the bedroom with what

926
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:31,639
seven of these cases on it. That's my entire graded

927
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,199
collection of vintage that I am working on is in

928
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,960
eight cases that fit thirty cards. So you know, my

929
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:43,400
basic instructions if anything happens to me is all the

930
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:48,119
graded cards go in one box to CIA at this point,

931
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:51,760
and you can put a next door ad with all

932
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,639
the junk wax stuff I brought from as a kid

933
00:49:56,119 --> 00:49:59,559
and give it away to somebody free on like next

934
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:05,360
door or whatever is the current communication app of that style,

935
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:11,440
because it's not worth sorting through. So but yeah, so

936
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:16,079
I already have a far more consolidated collection than most

937
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:19,800
people try to do. So, but I am not a

938
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:25,440
person that is not buying everything without a specific intentionality,

939
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,920
almost laser focus plan everything before I buy it.

940
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: So that's the one problem with value boxes. You can't

941
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,800
be laser focused when you hit a value box.

942
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't have value box.

943
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: The value boxes you you have to be somewhat flexible

944
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:44,519
within the value.

945
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:49,639
Speaker 1: Boxes because my only goal that I'm working on really

946
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,039
is one card playing days of every MLB Hall of Famer.

947
00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:57,920
Outside of that, I just have a few little pet

948
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:02,800
things that don't even completely fill one of the cases

949
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:03,239
right now.

950
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: So how many cards fit in each of your cases

951
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,559
on the wall.

952
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: With the SBC holders thirty So you.

953
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,159
Speaker 2: Make cases you can barely get one of each Hall

954
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:17,079
of Famers playing cards that might you might not even

955
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:18,800
be able to get every Hall of Famer who is

956
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,239
a player.

957
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,519
Speaker 1: Now. The list is two hundred and seventy five right now,

958
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:23,679
so you're.

959
00:51:23,519 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: Dealing with two seventy five out of two forty. You

960
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,760
can decide which thirty five Hall of Famers you don't

961
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,679
want to put on your wall.

962
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 1: Well, there's the twenty something negro leaguers that never really

963
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,480
even got a playing day's cards, so those are kind

964
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:43,119
of impossible. There's some guys in the nineteenth century that

965
00:51:43,159 --> 00:51:44,760
I don't know if I'll ever bother with.

966
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:48,679
Speaker 2: So you've got a fighting chance of, at least with

967
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,199
certain parameters, getting everybody you want. Yeah, well that's good,

968
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,199
I mean you've got so you'll get Andrew Jones this year,

969
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,559
You'll get Carlos Beltran this year, you'll get Jeff Kent

970
00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:02,719
this year, none of which should really set you back

971
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,679
a whole bunch of money. You already got them, okay.

972
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: Because I don't do rookie cards, so it makes it

973
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:09,880
super cheap for those guys.

974
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:13,679
Speaker 3: So yeah, as you can see, everybody collects different, you know,

975
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,400
from Rich going through dollar boxes or me going a

976
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,320
little more on the high end cards and John going

977
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,519
to non rookie cards. So you know, my advice guys

978
00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:24,920
is collect, like they always say christ from Suri Sa,

979
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:27,679
just collect what you like. It's your collection. You're the

980
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:30,719
one that needs enjoy it while you're alive. You know. Yeah,

981
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,079
you worry a little bit about will leave me. I

982
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:36,400
think overall, enjoy it, enjoy the hobby, Enjoy your collect

983
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,800
and I think that's the best advice I can give you.

984
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:39,119
Speaker 4: Guys.

985
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,679
Speaker 3: Don't worry. You know, when you're dead, you're dead and

986
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,880
your family eventually will will sell it. But you need

987
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,800
to enjoy it. And for me, the hobby is a

988
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,639
way to reduce stress and to enjoy life. It's been

989
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:55,519
my life most of my life. So it's the way

990
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:58,679
that you know, you just enjoy your cards. If you

991
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,880
want to hoard the cards a huge collection like Manginie,

992
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:04,480
that's great. If you want to just you know, have

993
00:53:04,519 --> 00:53:08,079
a smaller collection like Uncle Rich, that's great. Also everybody

994
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:12,320
collects different But so my advice is enjoy the hobby.

995
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:15,400
Let it read stressed. Hopefully you can live longer and

996
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:16,960
collect for a longer period of time.

997
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, my wife already has enough horrid scrap booking supplies.

998
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:24,280
To one hoard in the house is enough. So all right,

999
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,119
I think we're about wrapped up. What's on your guys'

1000
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,599
future agenda? Anything to share with the folks.

1001
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 3: Well, I just did an interview we're talking about it

1002
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,519
with pencing to Flood. It was posted yesterday. We want

1003
00:53:38,519 --> 00:53:40,519
to go back and look at that. Give him a

1004
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:43,719
little bit of a subscription if you don't subscribe to

1005
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,920
Adam pincon to Flood And you know, I'll just be

1006
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,440
the next show here in for Lauderdale the first week

1007
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:54,880
of every month, and anybody who is in the for Lauderdale,

1008
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,280
South Florida area come and join us. It's a pretty

1009
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,599
good small show, but it's a good show and looking

1010
00:53:59,639 --> 00:54:03,280
forward to a strong dependence or independence. I guess that's

1011
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,119
really the big thing that I'm looking forward to, and

1012
00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:08,840
I just you know, vote. The next thing is for

1013
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,159
the sports cars, hollose guys that do content. I encourage

1014
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:15,280
you to vote. It means so much for the people

1015
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,440
that even if you don't get voted in, just by

1016
00:54:18,679 --> 00:54:23,440
being you, hearing your name be announced by other content

1017
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,599
creators that appreciate what you've done, it's a huge lift

1018
00:54:26,639 --> 00:54:29,159
to all these guys out there. I wish I could

1019
00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:31,840
have voted for more people. So sorry to the guys

1020
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,559
I didn't vote for, but I think everybody that can vote,

1021
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,800
that's been doing YouTube content for a year needs to

1022
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,920
go out there and vote. Give some shout outs to

1023
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,880
the other guys out there. It means so much to everybody.

1024
00:54:44,119 --> 00:54:46,360
So that's the last thing I got to say on that,

1025
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:48,639
And I voted for you, John, Thank you.

1026
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,559
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, that's one of the hardest pairing down

1027
00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:58,639
lists of the entire year of anything, so uh it's

1028
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,840
very difficult. But uh Rich any last thoughts.

1029
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: Well, you know, next week, as I pointed out, I'll

1030
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,800
be doing going to the NTX card show and then

1031
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,119
to the tops Rip Night and the following week there's

1032
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,239
another Dallas, a smaller Dallas card show by DFW Airport,

1033
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,000
which is free admission and kind of nice to go to.

1034
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:21,960
So I've got lots of hobby just to finish the

1035
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,360
month of February, and then next month there's the Dallas,

1036
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,199
the Big Dallas card show, and there's a you know,

1037
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,280
and it's really cool and I'm sure I'll be playing.

1038
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,440
I did take five podcasts with doctor Beckett yesterday, so

1039
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,800
we had so you'll hear me on a bunch of those,

1040
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,920
which will be fun. We we even topped, we even

1041
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,239
touched on the tops quote leak about the meetings mister

1042
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,400
Rubin and his team had with some of the bigger

1043
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,159
people at the National and we discussed that in a

1044
00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:53,840
totally different way because both of us have been hobby corporates,

1045
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,159
so we can discuss that as corporates rather than you know,

1046
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,800
the world is coming to the end people. So I'll

1047
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,280
give you a heads up on that, and basically I'll

1048
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,159
just keep hobbying and we'll go from there.

1049
00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:12,599
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Rich, I've got another front row card

1050
00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:16,840
show coming to the Portland the Oregon Convention Center in

1051
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,280
Portland at the end of this month, hopefully I'll be

1052
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,719
able to hang out with Adam from Vintage Sanctuary as

1053
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,079
well as another friend who connected with us who doesn't

1054
00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:31,880
have a channel. But outside of that, then it's going

1055
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:37,360
to Strongsville with you there, Orlando. So which yeah, I'm

1056
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,440
sure people have heard by now. There's going to be

1057
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,239
a YouTuber hanging out on the Friday night of that

1058
00:56:42,639 --> 00:56:46,440
at the Embassy suitees Hotel. And then we have Four

1059
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,280
Collectors are hosting another trade night that's going to be

1060
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,920
at the Holiday Inn. So should be an awesome time.

1061
00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:59,280
So but yeah, everybody, I think this is another show

1062
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,119
in the book. Thank you very much to the chat.

1063
00:57:02,159 --> 00:57:05,880
Thanks Rich and Orlando, and we'll see you next time

1064
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:15,679
here on Hobby Hotline and four Collectors thank you for

1065
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,000
listening to this episode of Hobby Hotline. Just want to

1066
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:23,519
remind everyone we are a live show every Saturday morning,

1067
00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:28,199
eleven am Eastern eight am Pacific on the four Collectors

1068
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:33,800
channel on YouTube. That's the number four, the word Collector's

1069
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,159
channel on YouTube. We hope to see many of you

1070
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,760
live on a future Saturday. We have a great interactive

1071
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,280
chat room and we always provide a link for anyone

1072
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,880
that wants to come on the show and chop it

1073
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:47,639
up with us.

1074
00:57:47,679 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: So that's a reminder.

1075
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: Every Saturday eleven am Eastern eight am Pacific, only four

1076
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,239
Collectors channel on YouTube.

1077
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,559
Speaker 2: Hope to see you on the show.