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<v Speaker 2>Kf I AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany Hobbs here with you until seven, and then Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Monks will come aboard and undoubtedly give us all that

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<v Speaker 2>we need to know via his wonderful, wonderful show Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Monks Presents. That's from seven to nine. So make sure

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<v Speaker 2>thus far, featured segments under KFIAM six forty dot com

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<v Speaker 2>is where you want to go to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>you keep up to date with this show, Michael's show,

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<v Speaker 2>all the shows, but definitely this show. We just had

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful interview with our friend Ac Christiansen, Aaron Ac

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<v Speaker 2>Christiansen of Animal Advocacy Network, and he's out there. He

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<v Speaker 2>left southern California to go out to Texas. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>just be clear, because he traveled by caravan to Texas

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<v Speaker 2>to help with the animal recovery and rescue efforts, and

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<v Speaker 2>he painted a really grim but hopeful picture of what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on out there in Texas. Make sure you listen

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<v Speaker 2>to that. It was something, it was impactful. We're also

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<v Speaker 2>keeping tabs on some really big stories that maybe should

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<v Speaker 2>be bigger, and I know we're covering it right here

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<v Speaker 2>on KFI. You heard it right there from our KFI

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four hour newsroom. There was a body of a

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<v Speaker 2>toddler found early this morning in Panorama City in a

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<v Speaker 2>parking lot, apparently in a trash bin. They're saying it's

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<v Speaker 2>a residence, but that the toddler, approximately three to four

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<v Speaker 2>years old, was found in this trash bin. Authorities are,

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<v Speaker 2>of course investigating, but we don't have many details. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a why, a suspect, any causation, anything. And

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<v Speaker 2>this story absolutely needs to unfold so we can find

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<v Speaker 2>out what the heck happened. President Trump announced the thirty

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<v Speaker 2>percent tariff on Mexico and the European Union. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to take effect August first. Prices will shoot up if

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<v Speaker 2>this tariff situation goes through. I know we're the tariffs

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<v Speaker 2>are kind of threatened and then they pull back, but

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<v Speaker 2>this one could very well happen on August first. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course Vice President jd Vance is in the Southland.

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<v Speaker 2>He's at Disneyland today enjoying himself, and we'll see what

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<v Speaker 2>else he has in store. On his docket as he's

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<v Speaker 2>in southern California. Will he meet with Mayor Bess? Will

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<v Speaker 2>he meet with the supervisor and leadership out there in

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<v Speaker 2>Orange County?

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<v Speaker 3>What will he do? When will he leave? What will

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<v Speaker 3>he eat? What will he wear?

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<v Speaker 2>We'll find out as many details as we can share

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<v Speaker 2>with you and make sure that we do so we

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<v Speaker 2>have a talk back. You guys like our show, Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for listening. Let's hear what you have to say.

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<v Speaker 3>And Tiffany, I hope you're having a good saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you stocking me whenever I light up your woy

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<v Speaker 2>comes on the radio. Oh okay, well, thank you, short

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<v Speaker 2>and sweet and to the point, I appreciate she ate

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<v Speaker 2>that I am having a good Saturday, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>the same for all of you. Kayla's not with us,

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<v Speaker 2>but Richie is, so shout out to Richie who is

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<v Speaker 2>manning all of the things production and doing a wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>job keeping us on track. So I'm having a good

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday because I have a great team around me. Raoul's

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<v Speaker 2>in there, Nikki's in there, Brigitta's in there, and Richie

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<v Speaker 2>of course, and Kayla, we love you, we miss you.

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<v Speaker 2>We know she's listening and make sure you get those

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<v Speaker 2>talkbacks in because she's listening as well. Now it's the

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<v Speaker 2>sixth month, six month anniversary. I think anniversary might be

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<v Speaker 2>an inappropriate name, but we know we're commemorating the six

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<v Speaker 2>months that have passed since the Palisades and Eaten fires,

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't feel like six months at all for me.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like this is something These fires are something

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<v Speaker 2>that occurred maybe a couple of months ago. Six months

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<v Speaker 2>is quite a long time for positive things, and even

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<v Speaker 2>longer when it comes to a situation like this where

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<v Speaker 2>survivors are saying they are still struggling because La has

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<v Speaker 2>never experienced this kind of loss on this kind of scale.

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<v Speaker 2>Measuring progress six months after the fires has been hard

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<v Speaker 2>and painful, but it's being done, and whether it's considering

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<v Speaker 2>the feelings of loss. Thirty people died, thousands of homes gone, countless,

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<v Speaker 2>animal life, long term plans derailed, battles with insurance companies,

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<v Speaker 2>financial duress, mental anguish, all of that after six months

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<v Speaker 2>is still too raw for the people who were directly impacted,

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<v Speaker 2>and progress does in fact still seem fleeting for many,

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<v Speaker 2>especially those again who were the victims, are continuing in

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<v Speaker 2>their healing from this situation. A an audio clip from

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<v Speaker 2>KTLA that lays it out very well.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been a long six months for those affected by

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<v Speaker 4>the Eden and Palisade wildfires, and while city officials say

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<v Speaker 4>eighty percent of residential sites have now been cleared, evidence

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<v Speaker 4>like these burnt cars, charred signs, bulldozers, and building remains

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<v Speaker 4>to normal in Altadena or Pacific Palisades. Governor Gavin Newsom

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<v Speaker 4>came to town to mark the milestone and highlight the

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<v Speaker 4>progress and hear concerns.

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<v Speaker 5>None of us are naive that there are parcels remaining

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<v Speaker 5>that need debris removal. They're close to two thousand people

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<v Speaker 5>that have chosen their own path to the debris removal,

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<v Speaker 5>and there are commercial properties that are independent of this process.

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<v Speaker 4>The Palisades and Eaten fires burned a combined thirty seven

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<v Speaker 4>thousand acres, destroyed more than sixteen thousand structures, and killed

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<v Speaker 4>thirty people. This group of fire survivors says their community

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<v Speaker 4>is still in pain every day and came together to

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<v Speaker 4>share about the challenges of rebuilding, losing temporary housing, and

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<v Speaker 4>still not getting payments from insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 6>It has been disrespectful, disheartening, and predatory trying to get

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<v Speaker 6>through all the paperwork and the insurance and getting things

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<v Speaker 6>done on the property and who's coming over to do

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<v Speaker 6>what for you?

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<v Speaker 2>We need our insurance payouts now to survive and to rebuild.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty deaths, tens of thousands of acres, scorched, thousands of homes,

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<v Speaker 2>multiple thousands of animals as well. Again the situation with insurance,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you've been staying up to date on this story,

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<v Speaker 2>then you know quite a few people have not received

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<v Speaker 2>their insurance payouts or what they received was far below

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<v Speaker 2>what they were expecting to be able to hopefully get

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<v Speaker 2>them back on track. And then there's the mental anguish,

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<v Speaker 2>the mental capacity that's being pushed for people who have

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<v Speaker 2>experienced these two fires, which all contributes to the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that modern Los Angeles, what we know LA to be,

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<v Speaker 2>has never experienced this type of loss. So because we've

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<v Speaker 2>never experienced this type of loss, there are no easy

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<v Speaker 2>road maps to navigate how to best respond to these

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<v Speaker 2>situations in the time since it has passed these fires

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<v Speaker 2>have passed. There are individual challenges, there are collective challenges,

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<v Speaker 2>and on the other side. We're going to go through

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<v Speaker 2>what those challenges include. They cover cleanup, they cover assessing

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<v Speaker 2>financial loss, they cover questions about neighborhood rebuilding, they cover

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<v Speaker 2>city and county response. Because we're right here, it's fire

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<v Speaker 2>season all year round, but especially in the warmer months

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<v Speaker 2>of the year as we are in now. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you're that fire app that we all download it during

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<v Speaker 2>the fires, I can't think of the name of it

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<v Speaker 2>right now, but that fire app that we all became

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<v Speaker 2>very accustomed to. If you have that app, then you've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it go off a lot over the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks. What does that mean for the future should

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<v Speaker 2>something like this happen again. So there are quite a

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<v Speaker 2>few things that are being discussed in the six months

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<v Speaker 2>since the Palisades and Eaten fires, and we will get

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<v Speaker 2>into reviewing where we are as a region. On the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of the break, It's Saturdays with Tiffany right

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<v Speaker 2>here on KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand KFI.

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<v Speaker 2>AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Tiffany

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<v Speaker 2>Hubbs here with you until seven. It's Saturdays with Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>as it always is at this time, and we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the six months since the Palisades and Eaten fires,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the last segment, I was struggling to remember

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<v Speaker 2>the name of the fire app, that fire watching app

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<v Speaker 2>that we all downloaded, because you downloaded it, I downloaded.

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<v Speaker 2>It just ballooned back in January as we all were

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<v Speaker 2>watching what was happening with the Eaten fire, the Palisades fire,

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<v Speaker 2>and the other fires that were popping up around that time,

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<v Speaker 2>and my best friend Michelle messaged me and said, watch Duty,

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<v Speaker 2>Watch Duty. And I'm sure a lot of you were

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<v Speaker 2>screaming at your radio or at your phone as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That watch Duty app definitely became a source I think

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<v Speaker 2>of anxiety and trauma. And since the six months have passed,

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<v Speaker 2>we've kind of been quiet when it comes to fires,

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<v Speaker 2>except for i'd say this last week to two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>where my watch Duty app, which I still have, which

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<v Speaker 2>was more or less dormant for a period of time,

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<v Speaker 3>Is just you know, notification and alert after alert.

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<v Speaker 2>This fire one acre, five acres and everything is causing

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<v Speaker 2>me to pause and basically assess the danger and that

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<v Speaker 2>is born of the Palisades and Eaten fires and what

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<v Speaker 2>happened six months ago on January seventh, thirty deaths, thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of homes gone, thousands of acres scorched, and is undoubtedly

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most one of the most dire, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest fires in history in California, only I

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<v Speaker 2>guess superseded by what just happened about a week ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's still burning out there. But when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to Palisades and Eaten, LA's just never experienced

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<v Speaker 2>loss on this scale. So that's what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>The progress, if any, in the six months since the fires,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can measure it in two ways. You can

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<v Speaker 2>measure it individually speaking about the victim of the fire,

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<v Speaker 2>people struggling with the deaths of loved ones. Thirty people

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<v Speaker 2>again died. This was a deadly fire, determining whether to

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<v Speaker 2>rebuild and what that entails, and also assessing the losses financially,

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<v Speaker 2>can you rebuild, what does that look like? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what then has to be navigated so that financially

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<v Speaker 2>you can get back on track with your life. Those

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<v Speaker 2>are individual concerns and then there are the collective concerns,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would say even the vicarious concerns that many

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<v Speaker 2>of us are watching as well. Will the neighborhoods that

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<v Speaker 2>people lived in or that maybe you enjoyed visiting, will

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<v Speaker 2>they ever feel and look like what they did? And

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<v Speaker 2>many people six months out are saying no, they're saying

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<v Speaker 2>they can't look like what they used to look like

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<v Speaker 2>because of the way in which private investors, private companies,

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<v Speaker 2>developers are coming into both the Palisades and the Altadena

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<v Speaker 2>and Pasadena areas and buying up land.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when.

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<v Speaker 2>We first recovering the story, we were doing wall to

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<v Speaker 2>wall coverage for weeks about the Palisades and eaten fires.

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<v Speaker 2>There were whispers about what the recovery process, what the

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<v Speaker 2>rebuilding process would look like. And at the time, people

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<v Speaker 2>were hopeful that they would be able to get back

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<v Speaker 2>into homes, be able to rebuild their neighborhoods. Six months out,

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<v Speaker 2>that's looking less and less likely because of the private

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<v Speaker 2>development companies that have gone in.

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<v Speaker 3>And then let's say you do want.

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<v Speaker 2>To live back in your area, you want to live

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<v Speaker 2>back in the Palisades, you want to live in Alta, Dina,

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<v Speaker 2>or in those areas impacted in Pasadena. Can you afford

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<v Speaker 2>to even live there? Has your neighborhood changed to the

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<v Speaker 2>extent where the cost of living and the rental costs

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<v Speaker 2>or the ability to buy a home has that all

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<v Speaker 2>skyrocketed outside side of your grasp? If you have the

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<v Speaker 2>have been measurable changes since January. For instance, thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>have been multiple investigations, many of which are still underway,

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<v Speaker 2>and dozens of new building permits have been issued. But

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<v Speaker 2>many people say that's simply not enough. When it comes

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<v Speaker 2>Eton and Palisades fired debris. They often say, and you'll

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<v Speaker 2>hear them in press conferences, whether mayor Bess or governor

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<v Speaker 3>They'll say, this is the fastest.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people are saying, okay, but it

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<v Speaker 2>Now that those nine thousand parcels and thousands of property

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<v Speaker 2>or excuse me, thousands of pounds of debris, all of

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<v Speaker 2>these things have been cleared away, what does that mean

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<v Speaker 3>The pace of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Army Corps of Engineers has resulted in two thousand properties

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<v Speaker 2>per month being cleared. That's about twice as fast as

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty eighteen camp fire. That's the one that decimated

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<v Speaker 2>I think Eaten and Palisades will also receive their fair

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<v Speaker 2>share of documentaries going forward. At the time, Paradise was

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<v Speaker 2>and still remains the most destructive wildfire. Well, the Army

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<v Speaker 2>per month, and they're more or less boasting about the speed.

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<v Speaker 2>But as workers continue to gather up the debris, clear

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<v Speaker 2>the wreckage, there's the issue of toxic ash, contaminated soil,

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<v Speaker 2>and other sort of debris that has been moved to

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<v Speaker 2>these four local landfills, resulting in a lot of protests,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of animosity, and a lot of question about

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<v Speaker 2>how people are going to be impacted by this toxicity

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<v Speaker 2>and if you choose to live back in these burn areas,

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<v Speaker 2>are you still living amongst toxicity. There's so much at

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<v Speaker 2>really parse through. Then you have the city and county response.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people are still navigating the process to rebuild. You

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<v Speaker 2>have county leaders like Mayor Bess who said that they

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<v Speaker 2>to rebuild. But many property owners are criticizing that pledge,

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<v Speaker 2>that streamlined promise, a promise of streamlining the process of

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<v Speaker 2>all of this as being too slow. They're saying that

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<v Speaker 2>not nearly enough people are being granted the permits. More

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<v Speaker 2>than six hundred and fifty applications have been submitted to

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<v Speaker 2>LA's Department of Building in Safety, two hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>of them about have been approved, but one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five permits have been issued. That is a far

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<v Speaker 2>cry from the number of people who have applied. When

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to FEMA and federal funding. What does that

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<v Speaker 2>look like. Well, as of this week, more than three

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars in federal funds has been approved for individuals, families,

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<v Speaker 2>and businesses impacted by the that's according to FEMA. But

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<v Speaker 2>you have a lot of victims who are saying, we

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<v Speaker 2>haven't gotten that money, How do we get that money,

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<v Speaker 2>where does it come from, where does it funnel down from.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they have gotten money, they're saying it's not

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<v Speaker 2>enough or it's heavily limited or minimized compared to what

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<v Speaker 3>And then there's causation. As fire season continues.

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<v Speaker 2>There are lots of questions about the cause of the

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<v Speaker 2>Palisades and Eaten fires, and there's no definitive cause from

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<v Speaker 2>authorities for either of those fires, but there are certainly theories,

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<v Speaker 2>their theories about the utility company, their theories about people

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<v Speaker 3>But it leads a lot of it causes a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of anxiety going forward because if there's no definitive causation,

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<v Speaker 2>then there can be no definitive mitigation, which means people

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<v Speaker 2>feel that they are sitting ducks for this to happen again.

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<v Speaker 3>Legal issues.

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<v Speaker 2>The fires caused a lot of legal issues between the utilities,

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<v Speaker 2>between homeowners, between insurance, and again, people are saying that

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<v Speaker 2>they are struggling six months after the fires. They're saying

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<v Speaker 2>that many of whom have moved back at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>that when they walk around the block, they're re traumatized.

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<v Speaker 2>They say that it just doesn't look like what they remember.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like a bomb went off, and what made

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<v Speaker 2>the area special is gone. Nearly eighty percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>destroyed homes in Pacific Palisades are now completely cleared lots,

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<v Speaker 2>and the same can be said for the Altadena area.

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<v Speaker 2>So when communities are trying to rebuild themselves and they're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at six months out since the initial situation, since

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<v Speaker 2>the initial fire, they're really wondering will they be able

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<v Speaker 2>they have again that strong and tight knit community that

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<v Speaker 2>they once enjoyed. Many are saying no, but six months

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<v Speaker 2>out certainly doesn't feel like a long time, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a yet a long time to go. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get into scammers. Gonna Scam one of

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<v Speaker 2>our newest segments, one of my favorite segments. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tell you about two stories about people scammers who want

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<v Speaker 2>you to separate from your money, and unfortunately there are

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<v Speaker 2>victims in this case, people who have gotten gut as

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<v Speaker 2>you might say. I'll tell you about the stories and

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully you won't fall victim to these newest scams taking

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<v Speaker 2>hold around the Southland. Right here on Saturdays with Tiffany

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<v Speaker 2>KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>Kf I AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>Tifmy hobbs here until seven, and then Michael Monks will

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<v Speaker 2>be here taking over the big chair for his wonderful show.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, thank you so much for listening up until

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<v Speaker 2>this point. We have a few more segments to go,

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<v Speaker 2>so don't turn away yet, but I do appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>sticking around with us. We're following some big stories, including

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<v Speaker 2>Florida lawmakers were allowed to check out that alligator Alcatraz

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<v Speaker 2>and they're not mincing words.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no.

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<v Speaker 2>The lawmakers who were inside allowed quote unquote inside have

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<v Speaker 2>being very critical of what they're seeing inside of that

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>As well, that child, unfortunately, who was found in the

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<v Speaker 2>parking lot in Panorama City, deceased. There's still no information,

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<v Speaker 2>no further information coming out about this ordeal. We do

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<v Speaker 2>know that the child was approximately three to four years

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<v Speaker 2>of age. We do not know the gender of the child.

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<v Speaker 2>We do not know any causation or potential reason or suspects.

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<v Speaker 2>But authorities are treating it as a crime scene for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and I believe that's Apropos will continue to follow that story.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, of course we have Vice President jd Vance

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<v Speaker 2>at Disneyland. He's there at Disneyland with a thirty person entourage.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine being behind him in line. I would

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<v Speaker 2>be pissed if I had to wait for thirty people

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess, I guess that's a perk of being

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<v Speaker 2>vice president if there are no others. And then lastly,

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<v Speaker 2>right now, there's actually a protest going on in Torrance

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<v Speaker 2>across from City Hall on Torrance Boulevard. People are up

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<v Speaker 2>set that there is a proposal to build housing for

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<v Speaker 2>homeless people. I think one of these hotels or apartment

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<v Speaker 2>complexes is being converted into homeless housing, and the residents

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<v Speaker 2>there are saying, Nope, not in our city. So they

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<v Speaker 2>are out there in Torrents protesting en mass and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>You like your money, I like my money. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like scammers. But as we know, scammers gone a scam,

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<v Speaker 2>And we have two new scams for you. Unfortunately that

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<v Speaker 2>you may have already fallen victim two. You might be

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<v Speaker 2>you against falling victim two, starting with our very first one,

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<v Speaker 2>which involves those PPP loans. Remember those PPP loans and

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<v Speaker 2>Economic Injury disaster loans that were issued to folks during COVID,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, twenty twenty of March right March twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>through April twenty twenty one, one, that year long period

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<v Speaker 2>in which PPP loans were issued to folks who mated them,

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<v Speaker 2>some didn't, And we definitely found out that there were

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<v Speaker 2>certainly people who took advantage, and then there were people

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<v Speaker 2>who all outscammed the system. And the newest suspects in

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<v Speaker 2>this scam are local boys. One is from Burbank and

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<v Speaker 2>one is from Glendale. We have Noraian Madati, forty years

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<v Speaker 2>old from Burbank and vaz Rick Madatti, brothers from Glendale.

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<v Speaker 3>The older brother, vaz Rick.

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<v Speaker 2>Madatti, forty four, may or may not have pressured at

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<v Speaker 2>the younger brother.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'm just surmising you know that peer pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>But we do know that the two brothers were arrested

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<v Speaker 2>for allegedly defrauding the government of get this, two point

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<v Speaker 2>seven million dollars through a scheme that targeted COVID relief

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<v Speaker 2>funds and small business loans. This is according to the

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<v Speaker 2>US Attorney General Office. Now, the alleged crimes took place

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<v Speaker 2>from March of twenty twenty, just as COVID was really

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<v Speaker 2>becoming publicized through April twenty twenty one, when we were

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<v Speaker 2>in the throes of everything unprecedented times. According to the indictment,

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<v Speaker 2>no Ryer, the younger brother, was a banker at Wells Fargo,

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<v Speaker 2>and he opened fraudulent accounts with the names of fake

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<v Speaker 2>companies and stolen or fake identities. Stolen identities that could

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<v Speaker 2>have been you. If you experience some sort of major

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<v Speaker 2>fraud during that time. Then perhaps you are now happy

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<v Speaker 2>to find out, if you didn't already know, that the

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<v Speaker 2>suspects in that crime in which your identity was stolen

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<v Speaker 2>and used to secure PPP loans and disaster loans have

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<v Speaker 2>been caught. The brothers obtained these two point seven million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars through the PPP program and the Disaster loan program.

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<v Speaker 2>According to prosecutors, they're also accused of submitting loan applications

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<v Speaker 2>with fake and stolen identities. They also had false statements

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<v Speaker 2>about revenues, operations, and employees. They were very detailed with

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<v Speaker 2>their scamming. Two of the stolen ID victims were developmentally

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<v Speaker 2>disabled and lived in long term care facilities. That's according

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<v Speaker 2>to court documents, so they were preying on everyone indiscriminately,

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<v Speaker 2>the developmentally, developmentally able and the developmentally disabled. They were

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<v Speaker 2>taken into custody. These two brothers, forty years old and

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<v Speaker 2>forty four. What a life right just this three days

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<v Speaker 2>ago July ninth. Both were charged with one count of

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy to commit wire fraud, two counts of wire fraud,

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<v Speaker 2>and three counts of money laundering. The younger brother additionally

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<v Speaker 2>was charged with one account of aggravated identity theft and

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<v Speaker 2>one count of making a false statement to a government agent.

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<v Speaker 2>They could face up to twenty years in prison for

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<v Speaker 2>each wire fraud related count and up to ten years

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<v Speaker 2>for each money laundering account. They were released on twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars and fifty thousand dollars bond, respectfully, the

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<v Speaker 2>younger getting twenty five thousand dollars bond and the older

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<v Speaker 2>being released on fifty thousand dollars bond. We'll see if

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<v Speaker 2>they disappear. I don't know if I would have released them.

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<v Speaker 2>But they were released and their trial date is scheduled

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<v Speaker 2>for September second, so they have about two months until

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<v Speaker 2>they have to report and they are out.

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<v Speaker 3>So be forewarned.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Next and last scam and scammer's gonna scam.

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<v Speaker 2>There are lots of websites online, whether through your social media, Google,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it may be. And these websites are not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>credited or accredited legit. They are false shell websites that

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<v Speaker 2>may use the insignia, may use the branding of a

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<v Speaker 2>brand familiar to you, say Shell gas station or say

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<v Speaker 2>o Maha Steaks, or say Apple or Michael Core's Harbor

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<v Speaker 2>freight ARII, whatever it may be, but these websites are

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<v Speaker 2>completely false.

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<v Speaker 3>They use the name and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Labeling, but what they are doing is they are sifting

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<v Speaker 2>your information and then funneling or selling that information to

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<v Speaker 2>third parties to be able to then separate you from

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<v Speaker 2>your money. Everything looks real, the logos, the layout, even

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<v Speaker 2>Apple and Google pay are payment options, but by the

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<v Speaker 2>time you realize you've been scammed, it's too late. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell you a little bit more about this

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<v Speaker 2>scam on the other side of the break, and before

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<v Speaker 2>we talk to Michael Monks, we're going to get into

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<v Speaker 2>why the t DA is now allowing you to take

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<v Speaker 2>your shoes off in the security line at the airport.

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<v Speaker 2>But what they want you to know before you just

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<v Speaker 2>take or keep your shoes on. I said, take your

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<v Speaker 2>shoes off, keep your shoes on. See I'm still getting

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<v Speaker 2>used to the rollback. You can keep your shoes on,

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<v Speaker 2>but they want you to know some things about what

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<v Speaker 2>to do with these shoes on in the security line.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get into all of that more clearly on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of the break. Tiffany Hobbs here with you

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<v Speaker 2>at Saturdays with Tiffany Kfi AM six forty Live everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand KFI.

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<v Speaker 2>AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio App. Tiffany

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<v Speaker 2>Hobbs here with you for one final segment. Then Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Monks will be here for Michael Monks Presents from seven

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<v Speaker 2>to nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about scamming, and I'm extending the Scammer's Gonna

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<v Speaker 2>Scam segment just a little bit before we get into

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<v Speaker 2>the TSA situation with you being allowed to keep your

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<v Speaker 2>shoes on. Thank you TSA because the smells the smells

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<v Speaker 2>alone in the security line. Yeah, all right, So back

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<v Speaker 2>to Scammer's Gonna Scam. I'm telling you about a huge

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<v Speaker 2>scam that's not just impacting California, but it's really a

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<v Speaker 2>global issue that has to do with these fake websites

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<v Speaker 2>that advertised products that look just like.

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<v Speaker 3>The real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The website itself looks like the real thing. And you

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<v Speaker 2>might have seen something for OREI, that really expensive outerwear brand,

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<v Speaker 2>or Omaha Steaks talking about steak earlier and cross with Neil.

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<v Speaker 2>Omaha Steaks very popular steak Importer, Exporter don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, distributor.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's also other sorts of companies Harbor Freight, Apple,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Cores, and the list goes on and on. And

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on is that these sites look legit, they

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<v Speaker 2>look real. You go through, you buy everything, you enter

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<v Speaker 2>your card information. You know, if you look closely, something

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<v Speaker 2>might look a little off, but it's not a red

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<v Speaker 2>flag enough for you to stop. You just go through,

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<v Speaker 2>You send your payment through. You're expecting that two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars you know bike that actually costs fifteen hundred dollars retail,

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<v Speaker 2>but this site has it for two hundred dollars or

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<v Speaker 2>fifty nine ninety nine or whatever crazy deal it may be.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've all gotten tricked by these crazy deals. They

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<v Speaker 2>prey on us. They know we're vulnerable. And when you

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<v Speaker 2>send all of your payment through, you'll get a tracking number,

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<v Speaker 2>and that tracking number leads to nothing. You go back

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<v Speaker 2>to the website because you're trying to figure out why

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<v Speaker 2>is it now a month since I, you know, did

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<v Speaker 2>this order and the shipment said it was only going

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<v Speaker 2>to take four to six days. It's been a month,

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<v Speaker 2>and you go back to the website. The website's gone

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<v Speaker 2>it's completely gone. You have effectively been duped these criminals. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>it's what they are not Unfortunately, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>show them any grace. They're criminals in every sense of

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<v Speaker 2>the word. They are often based overseas, most popularly in Asia,

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<v Speaker 2>usually in China. They take your payment, they ghost you.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't get the product, you don't get a refund,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no customer service to complain to.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been totally faked out and fed up.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, you're out of all of your money,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it may be, ten dollars, hundreds of dollars, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it may be. Anecdotally, I remember my mother being so

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<v Speaker 2>kind and she's listening I love you, Mom, and she

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<v Speaker 2>did something that I asked her to do. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>a Christmas present a good daughter, So I said, you know, mom,

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<v Speaker 2>got get this Christmas present. And in twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was, and I said, can you get

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<v Speaker 2>me this compact treadmill because gyms weren't really opened back

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<v Speaker 2>up at that time, and we weren't really doing the

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<v Speaker 2>gym thing during COVID for whatever your beliefs were, just

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>So I said, you know, can I get this, Mommy, please,

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<v Speaker 3>can you get me this compact treadmill? Please, please, please please?

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<v Speaker 2>You can combine my birthday and my Christmas gift, my

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<v Speaker 2>birthday's gim minor. First, she said, okay, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the compact treadmill cost on this website that I saw

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook or Instagram, it was like eighty nine dollars

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<v Speaker 2>or ninety nine. It was something less than one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>or write about one hundred dollars. I had seen them

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<v Speaker 2>advertised a lot during the COVID lockdown. They were usually

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<v Speaker 2>around that price or two hundred, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a deal, this is great.

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<v Speaker 3>She ordered it.

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<v Speaker 2>She entered her payment information, she got a shipping estimate

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<v Speaker 2>tracking number. After about a month, thing never came, had

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of it, no actual product never came. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>six weeks comes, eight weeks comes. Now We're both like,

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<v Speaker 2>this thing isn't coming. We got scammed. So you try

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<v Speaker 2>and go on the customer service area of the website.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no one to talk to. And luckily for my mom,

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<v Speaker 2>she was able to dispute the charges through her bank

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<v Speaker 2>because she used an appropriate measure way of payment, whereas

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<v Speaker 2>others many others have not been able to recoup their losses.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing about I never got the treadmill, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, and just ended up having to go back

534
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<v Speaker 2>to the gym, which is fine, but even worse that

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<v Speaker 2>these scam sites are popping up faster than regulations can

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<v Speaker 2>shut them down, faster than hosting companies can take them down,

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<v Speaker 2>and even now as we talk, there are many of

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<v Speaker 2>these websites that are still absolutely up. I saw one

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook that was mimicking a website for this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of bohemian clothing brand, and it looked exactly the same

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00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.559
<v Speaker 2>word for word, color for color, graphic for graphic, except

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<v Speaker 2>for the fact that the fake website, unbeknownst to the

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<v Speaker 2>many customers there in the comments especially, was advertising the

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<v Speaker 2>goods at about seventy five percent off. So people were

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<v Speaker 2>going to the fake website that was advertising a huge

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00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 2>summer sale and buying the goods finding out through the

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00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:02.920
<v Speaker 2>legitimate website who had to them post regularly on social media,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, that's a scam. Don't buy with them. We're

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00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:08.599
<v Speaker 2>trying to get them taken down, but we're having trouble.

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00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 2>But don't buy with them. Hundreds of comments of people

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<v Speaker 2>saying they sent any amount of money to the fake

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<v Speaker 2>website and that they were unable to get any sort

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<v Speaker 2>of refund. So if you suspect that you might be

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<v Speaker 2>looking at something that is too good to be true,

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00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:29.000
<v Speaker 2>it probably is. Here are some other tips to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you don't fall for these scams. Slow down and read.

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<v Speaker 2>If there are misspelled words, weird domain names, something that

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<v Speaker 2>has an S that shouldn't have an S, probably not real.

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<v Speaker 2>Use virtual cards or a credit card, not a debit

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<v Speaker 2>card when you're shopping, especially back to schools coming up,

561
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:51.920
<v Speaker 2>holidays are coming up, try and use a virtual card

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00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 2>or a credit card so that you can have some

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00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:55.559
<v Speaker 2>sort of fraud protection.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, if you like something for Nike, go to Nike

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<v Speaker 3>dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't click on a URL a website name that advertises

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<v Speaker 2>itself as being kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Nike carrying maybe Nike.

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<v Speaker 2>Products, because if the deal looks too good and those

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen dollars shoes that usually retail at two hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>or advertise there, then it's probably a scam.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not a scam.

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<v Speaker 2>You can keep your shoes on during airports screenings. But

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<v Speaker 2>here's what the TSA wants you to know. They say

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<v Speaker 2>that they're you know, people are probably going to rush

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<v Speaker 2>to keeping their shoes on, but make sure that you aren't,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, keeping anything in your shoes that would need

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00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:47.159
<v Speaker 2>to be removed, whether it's jewelry or definitely don't keep

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<v Speaker 2>anything that might set off a huge issue in that

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<v Speaker 2>tsa screening, laying no sort of weaponry. All this is

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<v Speaker 2>common sense, but they're saying it because people are going

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<v Speaker 2>to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to try and.

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<v Speaker 2>Get through their alcohol or get through their weed or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it may be. Make sure that you're not doing

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<v Speaker 2>that because very quickly they could reverse this new policy

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<v Speaker 2>and have us taking our shoes back off. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to smell your long weighted toe funk as

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<v Speaker 2>you are waiting to board your fight. Okay, I just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we got to do this right, got to

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<v Speaker 2>do this right. Michael Monks is coming up seven to

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<v Speaker 2>nine with Michael Monks Presents. He's going to have a

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<v Speaker 2>great show. Make sure you listen. Thank you for listening here.

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<v Speaker 2>You can still send your talkbacks, just address them to me,

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<v Speaker 2>or make sure you address them to Michael Monks. We

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<v Speaker 2>get that confused sometimes. And I'll see you right here

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<v Speaker 2>next Saturday. From five to seven on Saturdays with Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a blast. Have a great weekend. KFI AM

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<v Speaker 2>six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

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<v Speaker 1>Piece KFI AM six forty on demand
