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Get every episode for free right 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,320 to your smartphone or tablet, And again, thank you so 9 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:28,320 much for your support. 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, early in hour three, ched, I'm sitting in 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,600 for Pete Calender on his fantastic and amazing show, and 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,159 I'm enjoying some well deserved time off. Here is we 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,920 enter the two hundred and fiftieth year of the nation. 14 00:00:43,119 --> 00:00:45,079 We'll be celebrating a lot of that and that, you know, 15 00:00:45,119 --> 00:00:48,039 it must drive the left bonkers. I think there's going 16 00:00:48,079 --> 00:00:51,840 to be so Trump's president. You're gonna have the two 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,240 hundred fiftieth anniversary of the country, which will be huge. 18 00:00:54,439 --> 00:00:57,280 It'd be huge. We also will have the links, We'll 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,119 have the World Cup. There's so much going on, and 20 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:03,240 it's going next year. For those of you who are 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,480 interested in kind of slowing things down so you can 22 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:08,319 enjoy the planet a little longer. Next year is going 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,159 to fly by. There's gonna be so in addition to 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,519 all the normal things that will happen, there's gonna be 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,760 a ton of stuff happened. It's just gonna fly by. 26 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,760 You're gonna feel if you have FOMO at all, next 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,719 year it is going to be a very bad year 28 00:01:21,719 --> 00:01:23,400 for you, because there's just no way you can see 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,280 it all between all the normal stuff between if you 30 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,640 like sports at all, there's all the normal sports stuff, 31 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,319 they're all normal seasons. But in addition, you throw in 32 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:32,840 the two fifty, you throw in the World Cup, you 33 00:01:32,879 --> 00:01:35,599 throw in the Olympics, there's just so much going on 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,760 it's going to be impossible to keep posing. I want 35 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:41,239 to start with a little statistic before we get into 36 00:01:42,239 --> 00:01:44,560 the rest of the show today, and by the way, 37 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,560 if you want to get in on the conversation, you 38 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,120 are welcome to do so. It's seven oh four five 39 00:01:49,239 --> 00:01:51,560 seven eleven ten here at News Talk eleven ten ninety 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,799 nine three WBT seven oh four five seven eleven ten. 41 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,799 Not only is that the phone line, it's also the 42 00:01:57,959 --> 00:02:02,400 WBT text line driven by Liberty View at GMC, same 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,640 phone number, so you can text that number and whatever 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,120 you're thinking, and if you want to keep your name 45 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:11,599 out of it, we'll do that as well. So they're 46 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,759 screen that line, screen looked at and they let me 47 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,599 know the minute that comes in now or anything that's 48 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,520 on your mind. This is just kind of a statistic 49 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:24,479 worth knowing. And as we get into and I am 50 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,080 a let me tell you ups front. I am someone 51 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,560 who absolutely believes the last four years have been devastating 52 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,680 from a from an economic immigration standpoint, the illegal immigration situation, 53 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,479 the lack of enforcement at the border. We had four 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,280 years of an administration saying Congress is the only person 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,280 that can do anything. And we knew that wasn't true. 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,039 Left or right, we knew it. We've seen it now. 57 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,199 You know that got aways and apprehensions have nearly dropped 58 00:02:50,199 --> 00:02:54,120 to zero. It's an amazing turnaround from an inept administration 59 00:02:54,199 --> 00:02:55,879 to one that knows what the hell they're doing. So, 60 00:02:56,479 --> 00:02:59,599 but here's here the numbers given. I remember eating a 61 00:02:59,599 --> 00:03:02,759 column by George will back in the nineties and he 62 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,599 was addressing the then immigration problem and saying that Americans 63 00:03:07,879 --> 00:03:10,919 pretty much in this may in the early middle nineties. Anyway, 64 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,840 I penned it. Actually, it's back when people cut things 65 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,520 out of newspapers. I did, and I remember referring to 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,639 it quite a bit because it was it's a numbers game, 67 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,400 and here's here's the reality. And I don't care if 68 00:03:24,439 --> 00:03:28,840 you are hardcore right leaning or you hate this process 69 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,000 by which they are illegals. We've let in millions legally, 70 00:03:32,319 --> 00:03:36,120 but there's a lot more. The most recent estimates suggest 71 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:40,080 that there are approximately eleven million. I love the use 72 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,719 of this race unauthorized immigrants living in the United States, 73 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,800 and I love the way they have to add this description. 74 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,000 This is kind of an AI thing. These individuals reside 75 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,360 in the US without legal permission. In other words, they said, 76 00:03:54,479 --> 00:03:58,000 unauthorized immigrants that are living here without legal permission. I 77 00:03:58,039 --> 00:04:00,919 can expedite that. That shortened a lot. There are eleven 78 00:04:01,039 --> 00:04:06,520 million illegal immigrants slash aliens living in the United States. Now, 79 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,639 that's an unfathomably large number. If you want to try 80 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,680 to let's put that in perspective. Think about Charlotte Mecklenburg 81 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,279 Union comparis, all the counties around it, Gaston, and then 82 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:22,560 keep going and add the counties leading up to Bunkom 83 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,839 and the counties that lead up to Guildford and Greensboro, 84 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,519 lead the counties at Durham and Wake, Raleigh and Durham 85 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,240 over to Cumberland County and Fedville, and then keep going 86 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,519 and add go on down the road seventy four to 87 00:04:33,519 --> 00:04:35,680 seventy six, all the way to New hanifd County, go 88 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,360 all the way to the outer banks, go all the 89 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,720 way to the far corners, you know, from Murphy to Manio, 90 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:44,360 from state line to state line. And then add that 91 00:04:44,439 --> 00:04:48,199 number together and you don't get to eleven million. So 92 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,879 picture the entire population of North Carolina, the known population. 93 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,600 That's how many illegal immigrants around the country best estimate 94 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,160 right now, that's almost a number that's now think about 95 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,560 that if you were trying to move, I mean, we 96 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:09,480 can barely, we can barely evacuate the coast in the 97 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:11,839 path of a hurricane. You have to turn all the 98 00:05:11,879 --> 00:05:14,279 roads in reverse. And it's and even then it's it's 99 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,360 a ludicrously large number of people to stay. And that's 100 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,680 just as small. It's like a county like Brunswick or 101 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,519 Newhan or you know, one hundred two hundred thousand people, 102 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,839 not ten million. Imagine moving the entire state of North 103 00:05:26,879 --> 00:05:34,040 Carolina to Texas or to I don't know, Florida ten 104 00:05:34,079 --> 00:05:38,920 plus million people. The logistics involved in doing that are 105 00:05:39,319 --> 00:05:41,920 you can't even picture that. There's not enough And especially 106 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,439 if you're trying to imagine this, You've got to gather 107 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,560 up all the people in the state that don't necessarily 108 00:05:47,639 --> 00:05:50,040 want to go and leave the state, and you've got 109 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,439 to gather them up, and then you have to process them. 110 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,560 You have to have to do process legal and get 111 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,639 them on a bus. You know how many buses it 112 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,279 would take. Just do the simple math that the fifty 113 00:05:59,319 --> 00:06:01,920 sixty people for bus divided by eleven million, and you 114 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,639 get a ludicrous number. There aren't enough busses to move 115 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,040 those folks. Now, I'm not saying we shouldn't move forward 116 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,199 with what we're doing, but I want you to. I 117 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,720 want everyone out there to have a realistic expectation of 118 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:17,959 what this means, because this is not a one, two, 119 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,720 three four year process. This is a decayed nol. It 120 00:06:22,759 --> 00:06:25,240 would take. It is a It is going to take 121 00:06:25,639 --> 00:06:28,879 the fortitude of and this is why the Democrats are 122 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,560 so important. It's going to take the fortitude of both 123 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,959 parties to get this sound of control. Now, one word, 124 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,439 the ugly word that Reagan used and it happened is amnesty. 125 00:06:36,959 --> 00:06:39,399 They're asking Trump about that word. Now, is there a 126 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:41,560 way to because we're trying to First of all, you 127 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,360 have to get rid of the bad guys. You got 128 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,199 to get rid of the bad guys. Those are criminal records, 129 00:06:45,199 --> 00:06:48,439 those of rape, murder, all that stuff. You've got to 130 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,560 find a way that the most important high target you 131 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,560 got to get rid of. That's what the alligator of Alcatraz. 132 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,399 Don't let people think you it's about women and kids 133 00:06:55,439 --> 00:06:57,680 out there. Know these are these are the bad ones. 134 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,040 These are the ones you want to get the heck 135 00:06:59,079 --> 00:07:03,680 out of the country. But nonetheless, eleven million unauthorized illegal immigrants, 136 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,879 let's run that number. So Holman said yesterday that he's 137 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,600 dealing with seven thousand a day, that he's got to 138 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,959 deport seven thousand a day just to keep up with 139 00:07:12,959 --> 00:07:15,839 the Biden you know, the last two years of Biden. 140 00:07:16,519 --> 00:07:20,360 If you add all of that up, if you did, 141 00:07:20,439 --> 00:07:22,279 and it's hard to get it's seven thousand people a 142 00:07:22,319 --> 00:07:24,879 day is tough if you do set and I don't 143 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,560 know that they're doing that seven days a week, but 144 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:30,920 if they were seven thousand people a day, seven days 145 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,199 a week for an entire year, you get to two 146 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,279 point five million. And that's if you can get to 147 00:07:36,279 --> 00:07:39,879 seven thousand a day, and that is a heavy lift. 148 00:07:40,279 --> 00:07:42,600 So even if you were to do seven thousand a day, 149 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:47,199 seven days a week for four years, you get to 150 00:07:47,319 --> 00:07:54,240 ten million. But that is a herculean, unachievable reality. That's 151 00:07:54,279 --> 00:07:57,120 what That's what Tom Holman's group and ices up it. 152 00:07:57,279 --> 00:07:59,480 Not to mention, you've got democrats that don't want to 153 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,920 cooperate with them, You've got cities that want to try 154 00:08:01,959 --> 00:08:05,519 to and you've got a bunch of democrats and lefties 155 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,519 that are trying to monitor where ICE is what they're 156 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,560 doing and put it on an app so that people 157 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,279 can target and kill them. So the left is making 158 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:17,560 the job increasingly difficult. They don't want people to be deported. 159 00:08:17,879 --> 00:08:19,800 They don't seem to think that having a border in 160 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,279 the country matters. 161 00:08:21,199 --> 00:08:22,439 Speaker 3: But it is. 162 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:25,959 Speaker 2: It is a mathematical you know, it's not right or wrong. 163 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,639 It's a mathematical problem. I don't know how it's dealt with. 164 00:08:29,439 --> 00:08:31,279 We don't have the inforession right now. If you could 165 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:33,679 get a magic button and round up all eleven million 166 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:37,919 unauthorized immigrants in the country. There's no there's no facility 167 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,919 in the country or the world that can house that. 168 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,840 We don't have the logistics, We don't have that many 169 00:08:42,879 --> 00:08:46,440 buses played with. You don't You can't move the entire 170 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,720 population of North Carolina in a reasonable amount of time, 171 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:52,919 especially if they don't want to be found. So just 172 00:08:52,919 --> 00:08:54,320 wanted to put that out there so that you can 173 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:56,320 chew on that. Make you mad, you can make it 174 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,120 up static, make you mad about what happening, make you 175 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,480 extremely upset about what's happened over the past four years. 176 00:09:00,879 --> 00:09:03,360 But it also means that we've got it. I don't 177 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,159 know if we have the stomach as a society for 178 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,639 what that would look like moving into the entire population 179 00:09:10,759 --> 00:09:13,360 of a state. Basically, I don't know that we have 180 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,840 the stomach for that. So we'll see. But the good 181 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:18,000 news is you have to stop the bleeding first, you 182 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,799 have to get rid of the bad guy's second, and 183 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,360 then you've got to strategically figure out how to work 184 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,600 back to where there might be a legitimate path to 185 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,240 citizenship for some I don't know. I'm not saying that 186 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,399 that's the answer, but the logistics of eleven million nigh 187 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,440 on impossible. 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Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, 207 00:10:32,159 --> 00:10:34,519 but it also supports ground News as they make the 208 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,480 media landscape more transparent. 209 00:10:37,039 --> 00:10:39,879 Speaker 2: Welcome back, because we go roaring through the third hour. 210 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,919 It's just been I love I just love WBT. Now 211 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,879 you can say it, but it's a truthful statement. It's 212 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:47,879 been a pleasure and honor to work with them these 213 00:10:47,919 --> 00:10:51,240 past few years, and a great team behind the scenes 214 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:54,799 making it sound fantastic. Now, thanks for holding, and I'll 215 00:10:54,799 --> 00:10:56,600 get to those phone calls right away. Richard, you've been 216 00:10:56,639 --> 00:10:58,480 on hold through the break. What's on your brain today? Man? 217 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 4: How you doing well? The mining administration, they basically essentially 218 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:05,200 have broken it. 219 00:11:06,159 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to put. 220 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 4: Humpty Dumpy back together again. So we get rid of 221 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,399 the criminals and you're gonna have to do some sort 222 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:17,720 of comprehensive immigration reform because we have to just mitigate 223 00:11:17,759 --> 00:11:19,559 the damage. At this point, you're not going to be 224 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,200 able to put it all back together again. 225 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: I you know, I don't think you're wrong there on 226 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,639 the background, but you're you're hitting on all sellers there. 227 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,320 I think that that and there's some people that are 228 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,240 going to say, oh, this was all planned, they wanted 229 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,320 to break the system. I think it was just an 230 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:42,360 inept administration. But it when it comes to comprehensive immigration 231 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,120 reform that is something that Congress needs to do. That 232 00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:49,120 is a congressional thing. It's not about securing the border, 233 00:11:49,159 --> 00:11:52,039 although that's been done, but I do I don't know 234 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,279 what the path for it will be. It's very Reagan esque. 235 00:11:54,279 --> 00:11:57,399 I don't see, and I don't think the American public 236 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,240 has the stomach to see eleven million people load up 237 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,399 on buses, plus you don't have enough busses to do it. 238 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,960 So I don't think you're wrong there. So I don't 239 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:05,960 think you're disagree. 240 00:12:06,159 --> 00:12:09,159 Speaker 4: I really do think this was done absolutely purposely. You 241 00:12:09,159 --> 00:12:13,519 can't beat this dumb and they did it purposely. But 242 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,799 we got to get the criminals out, and we're going 243 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:20,080 to have to figure out a way because they want 244 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,200 these people to vote. We just have to figure out 245 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,120 away what they vote. 246 00:12:23,399 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: Conservatively, eleven million votes at stake. Yeah, you're right, and 247 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:30,759 I don't disagree. I think they saw the trend line. 248 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:33,480 There are many people that wanted this staff and so, Richard, 249 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,080 thank you for the call. 250 00:12:34,159 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: Man. 251 00:12:34,519 --> 00:12:38,039 Speaker 2: I appreciate your listening. And one of our favorite callers, 252 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,120 I think he's been on motion what Hello? So I 253 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,039 think Mike is a frequent caller to the broadcast. Mike, 254 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,840 you know someone who's been active in Democrat politics for 255 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:48,919 many years. Welcome to the show. How the heck are you? 256 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 5: I'm doing time? Yeah, I was living the wrong line. 257 00:12:53,519 --> 00:12:54,080 Have you got me? 258 00:12:54,919 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 2: I do? You are on the air? 259 00:12:57,639 --> 00:13:00,039 Speaker 5: Okay, thank you? I was, I was talking out. I 260 00:13:00,039 --> 00:13:02,960 think you picked up the line. Excuse me? And can 261 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:03,320 you hear me? 262 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 4: Okay? 263 00:13:03,639 --> 00:13:05,159 Speaker 5: Chief, I got a new head be and I don't 264 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,080 know what it's sounding like. 265 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: You sound great, Mike, go ahead, all right. 266 00:13:09,639 --> 00:13:12,799 Speaker 5: Sorry about that. I appreciate the quick intro, believe it 267 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:17,000 or all. I'm actually calling to thank you for talking 268 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,360 just about the numbers, you know, just being straightforward about 269 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,879 what the path that we're on right now. And I've 270 00:13:23,919 --> 00:13:26,840 spoken with bred about this before. I think I don't know. 271 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,840 I'm not sure you and I have spoken on it before. 272 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:35,840 But rather than nass deportation, I'm talking about maybe smart deportation. 273 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,720 And what I mean by that is really talking about 274 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,200 a lot of your priorities. First stop the bleeding, which 275 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:43,679 you know in terms of security the borders, which we 276 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,840 was done, and then secondly get the bad guys out. 277 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:54,120 And I think if the administration and law enforcement focused 278 00:13:54,279 --> 00:13:58,399 on that, on that aspect of really focusing on the 279 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:03,720 bad guys rather than just sweeping everybody up, we be 280 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,759 better off. And the other thing about it is really 281 00:14:06,799 --> 00:14:09,720 an economic issue. If you're not really compassionate about these 282 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,440 people who haven't had to traverse so far to get 283 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,759 here to try and seek the better life. It's just 284 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,720 the economics of it. They voted in this recent bill, 285 00:14:18,799 --> 00:14:21,159 which is a separate conversation which I'd love to have 286 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,559 with you sometimes. But there's like one hundred and fifty 287 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,759 billion dollars there, right Chad, and right now it's designated 288 00:14:27,799 --> 00:14:31,120 to go all to all these prisons and to you know, 289 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,759 do transportation and all this other stuff help out if 290 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:41,240 we instead look at building up courts and training people 291 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,519 that can help the good folks, which is the vast, vast, 292 00:14:44,679 --> 00:14:48,759 vast majority of these people come in and go through 293 00:14:48,759 --> 00:14:51,399 the process, go you know that, we vet them, We 294 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,480 know who they are. Most of them are holding down 295 00:14:54,639 --> 00:14:59,320 jobs now under the radar. Most of them are wanting 296 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,679 to be very good citisens. That's what they're here while 297 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,000 they're here. But Mike, let me, I think if we 298 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,519 took if we took money in that and moved it 299 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,759 that way, not only would it be smarter. It'd be 300 00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:12,320 a lot we make a lot more money that way, 301 00:15:12,559 --> 00:15:14,240 a lot better for the economy. So if you move 302 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:16,879 them all out, I mean, that's going to really really 303 00:15:16,919 --> 00:15:17,720 hurt the economy. 304 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:18,799 Speaker 3: Mike. 305 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: I appreciate you, know your I think you're trying to 306 00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:24,480 find some common ground there. Much appreciated. Many listeners are 307 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,840 familiar with hearing you on the different shows, and we 308 00:15:26,879 --> 00:15:29,000 appreciate your listening. I'm sure the station does as well. 309 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,000 Now I agree with you, I don't, so we got 310 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,919 we agree. We got to get aggressive about those that 311 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,399 means harm. There are many cartel members, there's many people 312 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:41,039 foreig nationals that don't they came in from Canada, even 313 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,679 not just Mexico, but have come through the Canadian border. 314 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,720 That there is a serious criminal issue that needs to 315 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,720 be dealt with. And then as we get through this, 316 00:15:48,799 --> 00:15:51,360 as Holman said, seven thousand people today is an almost 317 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,840 an unsustainable clip. I get very good at it, but 318 00:15:53,879 --> 00:15:56,600 at a certain point you're running into a different demographic 319 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,480 that you're having to deal with. I do think in 320 00:15:58,519 --> 00:16:02,200 the second reconciliation and the fall or possibly next spring, 321 00:16:02,919 --> 00:16:05,399 the next reconciliation, which the Speaker of the House referred 322 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,039 to on numerous interviews, not just me. That will be 323 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,320 something that comes up. Congress needs to deal with that 324 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,399 issue that is beyond just the executive branch, and that 325 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,519 is something that must be conferred and dealt with with 326 00:16:17,639 --> 00:16:20,759 Congress and maybe approved about the executive branch to move 327 00:16:20,799 --> 00:16:23,960 things forward. Mike, I'm up against a break right now. 328 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,080 But quick question, well stay if you want to stay 329 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,279 through the break, you can. I just got to go 330 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,440 to a break. Okay, I don't mind just taking around. 331 00:16:31,799 --> 00:16:32,960 I love this kind of conversation. 332 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: But here's a great idea. How about making an escape 333 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,200 to a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. 334 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,519 Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of 335 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:46,879 Ashville is your connection. 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Beautiful, 355 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,720 beautiful summer day. You've heard me saying like twenty thousand times. 356 00:17:54,759 --> 00:17:56,359 I'll probably say it a lot more as the week 357 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,720 goes on, having a blast. As always, we're continue with 358 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,039 our quessial with Mayak stay through the break. Mine a 359 00:18:02,079 --> 00:18:05,000 frequent caller to the station. As I understand, I've spoken 360 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,759 to him several times in my various stints here, and 361 00:18:07,799 --> 00:18:09,960 we were talking about immigration. We had some common ground. 362 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:12,519 But Mike, you got a question that I have one 363 00:18:12,519 --> 00:18:13,880 for you, So I'll let you go on. You've been 364 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,400 saving up your question. Go ahead. 365 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 5: Is great, but I'm having a tough time here and 366 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,920 here you've gotten no kind of soft on me. If 367 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,680 I don't, maybe the turne will volume up on my end, 368 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,359 but I will. I will ask the question first that 369 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,039 I was holding through the brake Ford, which is, you know, 370 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,720 Home is talking about moving out seven thousand a day, 371 00:18:34,839 --> 00:18:37,920 and you were right to point out what a heavy 372 00:18:38,039 --> 00:18:40,839 list that is and how difficult it is to get 373 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,160 those kind of numbers. My question for you, though, I 374 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,519 love your opinion of those seven thousand, if somehow he 375 00:18:47,599 --> 00:18:51,000 could arrange all that and crank it all up and 376 00:18:51,319 --> 00:18:57,240 just you know, quite grupful by factor of ten whatever 377 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,559 the number of agents and rags that you're seeing and 378 00:18:59,559 --> 00:19:02,440 get all that. But how many of those seven thousands 379 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,279 are the really bad guys? 380 00:19:06,079 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: Well that's what they're determining there. 381 00:19:08,319 --> 00:19:12,839 Speaker 5: They're not really bad guys. Aren't we hurting ourselves? 382 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if Mike, I don't know if you 383 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,319 heard Homan. What he's saying is, after going through the 384 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,000 process of finding out who they are, he's deporting seven 385 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:28,640 thousand a day. So my question was, you know, doing 386 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,640 that seven days a week, it's an unsustainable And I 387 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,279 agree it's an unsustainable path. I mean, you're getting them, 388 00:19:36,279 --> 00:19:38,640 you're collecting them. Only certain ones are going to the 389 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,759 alligator Alcatraz, which I know drive some people bonkers. But 390 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,880 they are finding people that you know, a lot of 391 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,079 them they were here illegally. But more than more troubling, 392 00:19:48,319 --> 00:19:50,359 there's a criminal element, and it's it's you have a 393 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,240 let just think about this, Mike. There's a ten million, 394 00:19:53,279 --> 00:19:56,440 almost eleven million in North Carolina, roughly the same number, 395 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,440 and you think about the number as a percentage of 396 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,799 the population. They're bad people in our own prisons and stuff, 397 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:04,440 and those that are in the system, those are just 398 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:07,480 they're here legally. Those are legal citizens in the system. 399 00:20:07,559 --> 00:20:11,440 So in a pool of eleven million people, it's still 400 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,400 an unfat It's hard to picture, but there are really 401 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:18,480 that many bad guys, just as it's just in any 402 00:20:18,519 --> 00:20:21,640 given population. Yeah, and so we've got a long way 403 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,200 to go. My question for you, Mike, is this okay, yeah. 404 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,920 Do you foresee, I don't think anything passes Congress unless 405 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,240 it's a bypart of an effort to move this process forward. 406 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,480 I think they've got to work together on this one. 407 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,839 There's no way that it's going to be a party 408 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,119 party issue. I mean, it can't be otherwise it won't 409 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:43,799 be acceptable. 410 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 5: Oh, I agree with that, and I think that Frankly, 411 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,680 he get a lot of support the president. We get 412 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,559 a lot of support if he would just bring back 413 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,880 what was that he put his thumb on and squashed 414 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,920 last year. That bipartisan bill was ready to go, and 415 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,240 the only reason it did not pass was because Trump said, 416 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,759 I want that issue to run on and don't solve 417 00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:14,720 the problem. Don't make big sacks on it was a 418 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,720 perfect bill. No, did they solve a lot of the problem, 419 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,039 not all of them, but many of the problems. You 420 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,799 better did so at least bring that back as a 421 00:21:24,839 --> 00:21:25,559 starting place. 422 00:21:26,279 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: See that's up to Congress now. But I would say this, 423 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,559 I disagree. I don't think having read that bill, I 424 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:35,440 don't think it was a good I think now with 425 00:21:35,519 --> 00:21:38,480 the context of what has transpired and the movement that 426 00:21:38,519 --> 00:21:40,359 we've made, it in the fact that the border is secure, 427 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:42,680 I think now's the time to bring a version of 428 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,839 that bill forward. But Congress must deal with this. They 429 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,880 didn't under Democrats, they didn't under Republicans. It must be done. 430 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,079 It's something that needs to be moved forward quickly. And 431 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,559 on that I think you and I would agree, all right. 432 00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:57,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, and want anything else? For me, I mean, I 433 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,319 think you probably agree on this too. Is for me, 434 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,119 it's not about being soft, it's about being smart. And 435 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,200 I said before, not mass deportation. I think a better 436 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:12,559 word would be methodical, be more deportation. And as I said, 437 00:22:12,599 --> 00:22:15,799 it's not being soft, it's being smart and more than that. 438 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:18,920 For me, we've just finished the life for it. And 439 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:21,559 actually it was two hundred and forty nine years ago. 440 00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:25,279 Today the Declarations of Independence has read the first time 441 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,359 in public in Philadelphia. So that's you're over the trivia. 442 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,559 But it's also that train stayed true to I think 443 00:22:31,599 --> 00:22:35,359 American values. We're nations of laws, we're a nation of compassion, 444 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,240 and it's a nation that still can be the best 445 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:41,480 hope on earth for those yearning to be free. And 446 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:43,279 I just think we can do better. And that's what 447 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:48,599 I'm I'm hoping that rather than all the fear tactics 448 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,799 and the troops that have got you know, the invading 449 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,359 parks and home depots and things like that. Let's focus 450 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:04,440 on getting using intelligence, you know, and the focus to 451 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,920 get it down and mike that guys out and then 452 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,039 help help the other people who are productive to stay here. 453 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:13,319 Speaker 2: Mike. I appreciate your sentiments there. I think many of 454 00:23:13,319 --> 00:23:15,799 them were heartfelt. I think if more Democrats felt that way, 455 00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:18,240 we'd be moving that ball down the court. And I 456 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:20,880 think that you will be very silent. I appreciate the respect. 457 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,599 I gotta go. We're up against heartbreak. 458 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:23,279 Speaker 3: You know. 459 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, 460 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,359 to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of 461 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,720 our past while transcending generations. They help us process the 462 00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:36,200 meaning of life, and our stories are told through images 463 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,039 and videos. Preserve your stories with Creative Video. Started in 464 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,960 nineteen ninety seven and Minhill, North Carolina. 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They 474 00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:18,880 are your life told through the eyes of everyone around 475 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,200 you and all who came before you, and they will 476 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,559 tell others to come who you are. Visit creative video 477 00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:25,480 dot com. 478 00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:29,279 Speaker 2: We're gonna kick things straight over to our good listener 479 00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:31,960 and faithful person, Craig. Welcome to the show. How are you. 480 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: Hey, Good afternoon. So I've been hearing you know both 481 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:41,319 ways that illegal immigration is good for the economy or 482 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:44,440 and it's bad for the economy. But if I'm not mistaken, 483 00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:47,519 if you're going to have and my belief is that 484 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,839 the majority of the illegal immigrants here remit most of 485 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,920 their earned income here back to wherever their home country is. 486 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,480 So if you're removing that money out of the American economy, 487 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,480 how is that really benefiting our economy? It seems that 488 00:25:02,519 --> 00:25:06,359 the only person really benefiting is the employer, because the 489 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,359 employer's not going to give us any cheaper prices than 490 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,920 they have to. They're going to charge what the market 491 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,559 will bear, regardless of what their operating costs are. So 492 00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:15,240 if they can save money, we're not going to see 493 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,640 it unless their competition starts to cut prices too. So 494 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,240 if they're taking money out of the economy, how are we, 495 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,599 the average American benefiting from this? How's our economy benefiting 496 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:26,920 from this? 497 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: Craig, I think yours spot. I mean, according to you know, 498 00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:35,240 as many statistics as you can roughly find, it's about 499 00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:38,839 two hundred and seventy five billion dollars a year plus 500 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,119 that leave the country. What percentage that is from folks 501 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,079 who are not here legally, I don't know. I would 502 00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:46,920 assume the longer you've been here, the more your income 503 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,400 stays here. Not only that, it's the infrastructure cost as well. 504 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,440 I mean some people would say, well, they pay taxes, 505 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,119 they pay some taxes here and stuff like that, eighty 506 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,119 nine billion in federal, state, and local taxes, But they 507 00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:05,039 they also this overall number, and it's again it's unfathomably large. 508 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,400 These people also receive benefits. So if you were to 509 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,839 add the meta medicaid, if you were to add you know, snap. 510 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,720 If you were to add the nutritional supplements, if you 511 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,000 were to add all of these other infrastructure cost uh, 512 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,839 not to mention the medical costs and and and subsidies. 513 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,359 It it is. It is a net negative. That is 514 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,720 why it is somewhat of a boat and excuse me, 515 00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:27,839 it is a boat anchorle society. I'm not gonna say 516 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,160 it's not. It's the American way of life. A lot 517 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,240 of people spend a lot of time, effort, energy to 518 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,759 come here legally to abide by the system. They spend 519 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:39,039 seven years of their life. They spend inexorable amount of money. 520 00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:42,200 They it is a to be To want and become 521 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,319 a citizen is a lifetime achievement for many, and it 522 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,839 angers them as much as it angers anyone. Then eleven 523 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,240 million people come here not even caring about that reality. 524 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,119 Don't care. Now, that's one of the things that the 525 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,799 people who are mitigating it and and just soft on 526 00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:03,839 them don't see, is that it is like moving to 527 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,559 the front of the line and walmart er anywhere. When 528 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:08,759 you see people breaking line in front of you. You 529 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,880 did it all, you did it legally, and people break 530 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,880 in front of you. That drives you bonkers and that's 531 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,839 one of the problems it needs. If there is any 532 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,400 kind of path, those people need to be at the 533 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,039 end of the line, not the front of the line. 534 00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:23,359 We always reward people that want to be illegally become 535 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,079 citizens and be part of the process and contribute to it, 536 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,799 and that's what's critical. And Craig, I don't know if 537 00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:32,119 you're still there or not, but I appreciate you being 538 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,519 part of the broadcast, right. Did that help it all? 539 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,880 Did we agree on that? 540 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we do agree on that. It's just I 541 00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:44,519 think when you also need some bigger we need to 542 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:47,440 make remittances to where they're not worth coming here to 543 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,079 remit money. I mean, you can come here and work 544 00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:52,440 a minimum waste job and depending on where you come from, 545 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,759 your family can live like they're getting one hundred grand 546 00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:55,039 a year. 547 00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: Sure, and there should be like a tariff on that 548 00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:01,960 if you're remitting money through services. I'd hate to say 549 00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:04,400 I'm in favor of a tax there. But you don't 550 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,519 get a free pass. I'm sorry. You know you get 551 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:10,160 if you want to contribute here, you want to invest here. 552 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: You know. 553 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,839 Speaker 2: Trump even referred to a gold pass or something like 554 00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:16,319 that for people who want to put five million dollars 555 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,839 in investment here. You know, that's what this America First 556 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,599 movement is about, is investing here in this country for 557 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,200 the benefit of this country and the people in it, 558 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,160 the citizens of this country, and to their benefit and 559 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,920 the life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, all of this. The Craig, 560 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,680 I appreciate the call man, thank you, and appreciate your listening. 561 00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:39,400 So that's kind of what it's all about. And to 562 00:28:39,519 --> 00:28:42,440 Mike's call over that, I think that's where that's where 563 00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:46,480 Mike and I have a disconnect. He talks about smart immigration. 564 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,680 I don't disagree with the phraseology there. I think the 565 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,839 people want to do that, but it does not need 566 00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:54,759 to diminish those who want to come here legally. And 567 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:00,480 that's the issue. These people did it from Mexico, from Canada, 568 00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:02,319 from all the countries on the planet. I mean, there 569 00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:04,119 was a swearing in ceremony in the south Ford twenty 570 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,240 eight different countries, fifty eight people, seven to ten years 571 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,880 of their life. Those folks, they're at the front of 572 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,279 the line, and they need to stay at the front 573 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,200 of the line. Those folks that are in that process, 574 00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:18,000 and they look around and look, I have a dear 575 00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:21,839 friend who owns a restaurant, and he is more anti 576 00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:25,599 I legal immigration than I am. He's a legal immigrant. 577 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:29,519 He did it the right way. He goes home to 578 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,359 visit family and friends. He is here with his family legally. 579 00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:36,440 They applied, they got in, They've gone through the process. 580 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,920 He's a citizen, and he is a citizen with more 581 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,079 knowledge about our constitution and our history than most of 582 00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:44,519 the people that I run across to you run across 583 00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:48,960 in the streets or just in public life. That's a 584 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,839 testament to their love of this nation. He also passed 585 00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:55,440 to serve. I want if there's a way for you 586 00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:58,359 to get in the system and volunteer or be a 587 00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:00,480 part of the military, and you have an ALLEGI here. 588 00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:05,359 The solution is not easy. I'm not glossing over the 589 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:11,240 enormity of eleven million. Logistically speaking, is it's an unfathomably 590 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,640 large number. And I don't know. I'm not pretending there's 591 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,319 a magic solution, but it's it is just moving everybody 592 00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:21,400 to the front of the line. That's not acceptable. It's 593 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,640 not gonna happen. It's just not gonna happen. I mean, 594 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,000 that's kind of a full stop. As I was explaining yesterday, 595 00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:31,440 it's the micro drop moment not gonna happen. How do 596 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,680 you deal with it? Uh, maybe there's a there's a 597 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,200 path somehow, but it's not to move in front of 598 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,759 the people who've done it in a legitimate fashion. It's 599 00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:43,119 it's a way of everything is fully documented. You you're 600 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,880 for everything about you being here. 601 00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:45,279 Speaker 5: You know. 602 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: The self deportation app allows you to deport yourself. Those people, 603 00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:52,640 those people are saying I want to come back, and 604 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,519 they're providing a way to do that. They get in 605 00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:58,880 that app, they give their information, they self deport It 606 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,440 gives them an opportunity to to come back to this country. 607 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,640 And I think it's over a million now. If we 608 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,839 had five million people that self deported, Yeah, those people 609 00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:11,359 have an opportunity to come back legally. That's a really 610 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,119 good idea that doesn't really cost a whole lot. It's 611 00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:17,759 actually beneficial to them, beneficial for the country, folks. It's 612 00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:20,359 been an hout privilege. I will be back the next 613 00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:21,640 couple of days through the end of the week. I 614 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,960 hope Pete's enjoying his time off. I will have Donald 615 00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:27,039 Vandervar joining us tomorrow. He the former head of d EQ. 616 00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:30,039 That's going to be an interesting TQ. I know that'll 617 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:32,160 do it for this episode. Thank you so much for 618 00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:33,920 listening with. 619 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: Your support and the support of the businesses that advertise 620 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,640 on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them 621 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,279 too and tell them you heard it here. 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