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Welcome in the gm ant Brandon Seagerty Listen, g man.
Speaker 4: I've been doing well. I've all my articles there are in,
I've broken down the game, I've transcribed all the necessary information.
I am well informed about this what is going to
happen off Saturday.
Speaker 1: Plus I've been thinking thoughts. I've been thinking a.
Speaker 4: Lot of thoughts the way here, and I think there's
some key ad tips. There's one player on b Wau's
team who I believe needs to have the game of
his career and I think he can do it. And
to me, this is going to be the biggest expector.
Do you want me to reveal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do the intro and then I'm
gonna have you pontific eight.
Speaker 1: That's called Teams.
Speaker 3: Team Man's get a pontificate. Were Momentary. It's also welcome
in Hambertime show Brett Always bringing the Hamberts on Amazon.
Speaker 5: It's been an interesting rivalry week for me. We had
Nate Ritchie and Keenan Pooley yesterday. We got to interview
them in a little post show, which was a ton
of fun, and what I enjoyed most about it was
getting to sit with someone who's on the side of
Utah and just have a fun conversation.
Speaker 6: Lots of good jabs, but like.
Speaker 5: Nothing spiteful, her ful, Like he's talking about what he
likes about BYU, and we're talking about like where we
think Utah can win some things. I had some Utah
accounts a dm me on Instagram because they had some
they didn't like.
Speaker 6: Some of the things that I said.
Speaker 5: And we went and chatted about the Kyle Whittingham press
conference on Monday and they're like, Okay, I understand where
you're coming from.
Speaker 6: You understand where I'm coming from.
Speaker 5: So I just think, like, if you just have conversations
with people, you realize that you don't hate people as
much as you think you do. So I'm really grateful
to have had these conversations heading into the Holy Words.
Speaker 4: Can I interject something here and I mean this with
all sincerity, and I'm reminded about of this fact once
every single year Utah Twitter, you guys need to raise
your game. They're not good funny takes. They're not witty.
They always try to shock you and go for the profane,
as if that's gonna offend me and all that I
have been inundated with just the dumbest mossophomoric tweets. And
it happens every year from the Utah fanbase. I don't
get it. I don't understand why this stemmed from though.
Speaker 3: Why is it that it becomes so bitchline rudimentary, almost
like neanderthalic shock and awe profane commentary. It's it's a
it's the antithesis of what they deem as the self righteous. Yeah, exactly,
the individuals that can't hear a curse word without But
what's funny is without being a gashed and taking back
oh you, oh oh, the profane, the the immoral, like you.
Speaker 4: Know, they're completely ignorant to what I am and what
offends me, which is nothing right, and they just come
at me and it's it's really dumb. And every time
I think of shut no, I'm not going to respond
to this, but I would like to encourage you Twitter,
for the fourteen fans listening to us right now, raise
your level of Twitter, inter your ability.
Speaker 1: It's it's dumb. And guess what the rest of the
Big twelve is seeing it.
Speaker 4: Their team deserves better acumen put forth by their fan
base because it's terrible.
Speaker 1: It is. I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 4: It's really really bad. And every year it seems to
be getting worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 3: So it's I'm not getting any better, fandom.
Speaker 4: Just raise your game, be intelligent, don't go to the
stupid hole of all I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: No, that doesn't play. No one cares, and and.
Speaker 4: And as working against you is working against your entire program.
Speaker 1: Which is a great football program.
Speaker 4: That's what drives me eternally crazy about Utah football.
Speaker 1: There is a lot to admire about that team.
Speaker 4: They've done an amazing job stealing the recruiting scene, UH manufacturing,
NFL talent, but that fan base is just bad, at
least the bulls on social media, at least the vocals.
I know a lot of good you guys. I mean
my brother in law, who I steem very high.
Speaker 3: You're talking specific about their Twitter game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm talking about the social media Twitter game.
Speaker 3: And I'm not on Instagram as much so Brett, I don't.
I don't know what you say. It's about the same X.
Speaker 5: But again, what I've been reminded of is not the
morons on X and on Instagram and on social media.
They don't represent though, the average YOU fan, because you'll
meet so many who are just like the nicest people,
they're just as nice as me.
Speaker 6: But you also meet plenty of dumb BYU fans.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do fall into that trap.
Speaker 4: You tend to define a fan base by the loudest,
most obnoxious voices.
Speaker 1: I do understand that. But there's enough of them on Twitter.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 1: Just stop stop it. You're not funny, you're not shocking.
No one cares, no one really, it's white noise, that's
what it is.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh yeah, it's a stupid U bench trying
to be profane a fan. It's it's stom stop anyway,
I'm saying this now and for the I think we're
reaching sixteen Utah fans that maybe I want to be eternalized.
Come back next year and give me a funny take,
give me good smack that I can actually laugh at
and like, yeah, that was good, because I don't get.
Speaker 3: Those get have the same creative levity down your timeline.
Speaker 4: I should say none of them do, but I'd say
ninety percent of my responses for me fans have been terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not funny, not clever, just really dumb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well, I appreciate that. Shout out to Vic
Cram on the data aggregation. Also, Zach Robinson producing for today,
Zach Attack, how are you, buddy?
Speaker 7: I am doing good And I have been sitting staying
off Twitter all week because I know how bad that
Twitter can get when it is rivalry week. And I've
been talking about this all week with the down Dirty
with Scott Mitchell.
Speaker 6: I've been producing for him all week and.
Speaker 7: Like, there's a lot of respect for this rivalry and
I don't get I have been working under you guys
for like a year now, getting into the BYU scene,
knowing what's going on. With the Utah scenes that I'm
on a lump from the University of Utah. It's it's
interesting to see how much respect there is between the
two schools. Somehow, in some way, the fans definitely get
again get on my Utah fans can on my nerves.
B Why you fans can get on my nerves. It's
gonna happen. That's just a natural response. But I do
think it's stupid that, like all fans in general, just
do the dumbest takes and put them in like our
our comment section, where we're just trying to do.
Speaker 1: Our jobs right.
Speaker 7: And I really think this is gonna be a great game.
I think it's gonna be a close game. It's gonna
be a defensive battle. Both of these defenses are really
really good, but both offenses need to start clicking if
they want a chance to win. At this game, Bears
are making some misreads. There's been a lot of miscues
on the offense, and that's the same for Utah. So
it's gonna be a really close game this week, I think.
And it's just it's the holy world. There's a respect
for this rivalry.
Speaker 6: I've heard.
Speaker 7: I heard Coloni Satake say there's a lot of respect
in this rivalry, so I'm curious and how how these
two teams are gonna respond to each other this on tomorrow.
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All right, g man, what's your hot take? Give me
your your keys to the game, if you will.
Speaker 4: I have two takes and one free each side of
the ball. And when you look at matchups, everyone's being
drawn on the fact that it is very very even
from a coaching perspective, personnel perspective, every perspective.
Speaker 1: All the way around.
Speaker 4: In fact, the only thing that Kyle Winningham would say,
and he presented it, we're really across the boards statistically,
there's very very little differential, right a Rod versus Morgan
scally wash Right. I loved a Rod's quotes. It's like, well,
we know what that you know that, we know that
it's But what he did say is you can't smart yourself.
You gotta stay with what you do and what you
do well and let players be players. And the tendency
to doubt smart yourself is something maybe he's done in
the path that he's seen and maybe he's gonna rectify that.
I think that that was the message. I think that's
exactly what you do. So anyway, b what you offensively,
you look at what Arizona presented last week. I think
Arizona is very similar defensively to Utah, especially with how
it boys. It's coverages. What did we see with those coverages?
Speaker 3: We saw.
Speaker 4: Very physical application. They left guys on Islands. I think
they were very good. I think they were the best
cornerbacks people he's faced all year. But Arizona did not
stack the box. I believe Utah will be stacking the
box and they're going to be at least as physical
as the Arizona defensive backs. And I do not know
if he does defensive backs are quite as good as Arizona's.
Speaker 1: I don't. I think they're good.
Speaker 4: But because of that, who didn't really have a good
game relative to the opportunity.
Speaker 1: It was Number two Chase Roberts.
Speaker 4: He struggled right, He was getting covered as tightly as
I've seen all year.
Speaker 1: They were physical with him. He dropped to pass. I
think if you talked to Chase, he's probably angry.
Speaker 4: He loves his boy, Parker either they're good buddies, but
I mean, these guys are competitors.
Speaker 3: They're seeing Parker Bear just throwing it down not even
looking his way. It's like, dude, I'm over here, come on,
I'm the guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm the one you guys wanted back. I'm the
six to four guy with every tool in the box. Right,
Chase Roberts needs to be very, very big in this game.
He needs to have a career game. We've said it
all this year.
Speaker 6: Just give it to the guy.
Speaker 4: He's six y four, He's got amazing speed, he has
really good ball skills, and I'm not seeing a cornerback.
Even Smith snowden that that Chase Roberts cannot compete with.
You're going to see at least as physical a matchup
as you did against Arizona.
Speaker 1: You have that work on that.
Speaker 3: I think that that aids him knowing that, man, I
didn't have as good as a game as I should have.
Speaker 4: ES gonna largely be doing this. I'm gonna show something.
I'm gonna show why I came back for my senior season.
I'm going to make plays. And this is where BWAYU
has a big advantage over Utah. Utah doesn't have a
Chase Roberts. They don't have someone that can beat you
at any point of the field, that can do everything
as a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Use that. Go to it again and again and again.
I've said it.
Speaker 4: I swear to say this every time I owned the program.
Chase Roberts needs ten targets per game. Ten Yeah, ten
targets against Utah. I'm going to be counting them. If
they're not a route's gonna hear about it. I'm probably
not gonna go there, but but I'll be angry. I'll
be angry about it. Chase Roberts needs to be a guy.
They're going to be stacking that box. He's going to
be afforded single coverage.
Speaker 1: He can beat that.
Speaker 4: And he needs to have the game of his career
in this game because that's where Bee we might have
that advantage. Side is Devin Daan Pierre can't complete a
pass over twenty yards. He can't do it, and B
way he's gonna be making him do that.
Speaker 1: U is gonna be doing the same for Bayu.
Speaker 4: Plus Bear has had to make plays when he absolutely
had to. He he had to do against Colorado, he
had to do against Arizona. He responded, I don't like
that he threw two interceptions last week. That gives you pop, certainly,
But Devin Tampier really hasn't been forced to make a play.
Speaker 1: He has not been in that situation. He was against
Texas attack and guess what he didn't. He's going to
have to make plays in this game.
Speaker 4: He's going to have to have that situation where he's
got to throw a dot on a third and eight situation,
and I don't know if he can do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he can't do that. Maybe he can,
I don't know.
Speaker 4: But Bear has that advantage, and he has number two
that can be in the ultimate bailout. That needs to
be a connection, that needs to be He needs to
be afforded more targets than any time of this year
because they're gonna be stacking that box.
Speaker 3: LJ. Martin's not going to have the running LANs he
did last week against Arizona. It's not gonna happen. It's
just not gonna be there. I'm not saying they can't.
Speaker 4: I think they can run it somewhat effectively, but it's
not gonna be what Arizona did because they're not gonna
be because they will be sacking that box. Chase Roberts
needs to be a guy ten targets minimum for number two.
Speaker 1: Respond game of your career. Make yourself memorable. This is
the game to do.
Speaker 4: But Chase Roberts, I'm looking at you. That is my
number one X factor on this BAYU offense defensively.
Speaker 1: That's what I said before.
Speaker 3: Can I just chime in on your offensive side of things.
Speaker 1: Well, it's your show.
Speaker 3: Well I'll just tell you I know, but I'm I'm
not a tyrant, and I don't just take over the
show when someone is on a on a tyrant. Tyrant
was a tyrant. It was awesome BYU has won the
last two and you wonder, okay, well why is it
they won the last two? I would say under Fesci,
we have had more wide receivers come through talent wise
that can win in one on one coverage than we
ever have before. And we've had some good quarterbacks too
to be able to distribute them even like look at
at Home versus Utah in twenty twenty one. Now Kyle
will say they lost the trench warfare battle. I agree
with that. Tyler ale Year was able to milk the
clock late and that offense line blocked at Stremewell. There's
a talented offensive line, but there was also one on
one coverage that was one and so there's a balance
of a good run game with one on one beaters
with talent, whether it was Samson right Puka. Now you
have Parker Chase, you expect them to be able to
win in press coverage. You have to have them win
in press coverage Carson Rank and he win versus these safeties,
linebackers or nickel corners. That's also an intriguing battle.
Speaker 4: Continue my other mismatch, and I think this one's rather obvious,
but I think it's worth pointing out. As I just mentioned,
Arod Scaley wash whatever, maybe even an edge to Morgan Scalley,
even though A has been absolutely tremendous.
Speaker 1: I think the way your fans are finally realizing just
how good he is.
Speaker 4: On the other side of the ball, you have Gary Anderson,
you have Sion Pua, you have Kelly popinga. Jay Hill
obviously justin Enna versus Jason Beck, MICUs Simon, and I
like those guys. I think Jason Beck a talented guy,
but not having the framework going into this game relative
to what Gary Anderson and Jay Hill have that is
a potential mismatch. I won't say it's a definitive mismatch
because I think Jason Beck is a smart guy. I
think he's capable, but potentially you know that Jay Hill
has something. They've done advance work. They understand these concepts,
they understand this game and the fact that Utah has
not been in a tight situation where it has to
make plays that could be a thing, that could absolutely
be a thing in this game. And I take Jay
Hill and his defensive staff any day of the week
with game prep, execution, and just formulating everything that needs
to happen against Utah every time over Jason Beck and
his staff. That's the one mismatch I'm seeing and it
could be glaring, and I don't see any argument against that.
Who's not going to take Gary Anderson and Jay Hill
over a brand new, first year offensive coordinator, a quarterback
that hasn't been on in the raucous road environment.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about Bear all, how's Bear gonna handle it?
I know how Bear's gonna handle it.
Speaker 4: He's gonna handle it well, he's been there, he's his
I don't know how Devin dan Pier's gonna handle it.
Speaker 1: Bear has proven himself.
Speaker 4: More at this level in tight situations, situations where he
has to make play going against adversity, than Devin dan
Pier has up to this point. Yeah, I'm not saying
it saying Devin dan Peer has it can't do it.
I'm just saying I haven't seen it until I see it.
I'm not gonna believe that that he can do it
because because they're gonna have something for him. They're gonna
have something he hasn't seen before. They're gonna have Jack Kelly,
They're gonna have Isaiah Glasker. So anyway, as you can
maybe note from my comments, I've become more and more
confident in b Way's ability to win this game as
the week's drawn on. I'll be honest with you, after
that Arizona game, I'm like, dude, you just gonna hand
it to him. Utah's ready, They're rare to go. Monday,
I was kind of in the same line of thinking.
Speaker 3: Tuesday, I was like, I don't know, because I've been
thinking thoughts. I've been thinking lots and lots, Babe, Yes,
I have. I like Bwayu in this game because it's
going to be tight. I like Bway's ability in a
tight game more than Utah's, and I think Bau's gonna
win this game probably something seventeen to sixteen, seventeen to thirteen.
Speaker 4: It's going to be low scoring that favors Bayu. Bway's
going to control that clock. They're going to be using
every second of that play clock. Because that's the team's strength.
They know what they're doing. I think the identity stronger
on b WAYU sided the ball, especially on the offensive side.
And I haven't even mentioned special teams, which I think
will come into play as well. Bway's going to win
this game. I'm kind of confident. The one thing that
gives me pauses. Utah's offensive line is really really good,
really yes, really good. And if they if they can
find that gash and just go and five six yards
per carry, that's that's gonna change everything. And Utah's offensive
line is absolutely capable of doing that. Can be way
you withstand that b where yous front seven. The play
is a lot better this year that they can stand
up to a certain degree. But you're going to go
up against the best offensive line of the country.
Speaker 1: I believe it. They're very, very good. But you mitigate
that to even any.
Speaker 4: Degree, and I like the way used chances. But if
you're Utah, you rely on that offensive front.
Speaker 6: You get behind him.
Speaker 1: That's what they did last week against Arizona State.
Speaker 4: I think during the bye week they you reevaluate a
lot of things, and I think that was part of
the reevaluation.
Speaker 1: We got these dudes, let's just go off tackle, right,
I'll tackle Levet.
Speaker 3: Just do what we do.
Speaker 4: And I kind of thought that's what Utah would trend
toward at the beginning of the season. That's absolutely what
they're gonna try against. Be way you and we'll say,
I'll be where you with stands.
Speaker 3: It, bred I know you delved into this. What's the
weakness of the University of Utah that BYU can't expose
at Lavelle Edwards this Saturday.
Speaker 5: It's so interesting when you look at almost every Big
twelve matchup at Big twelve stat whether it's scoring, offense,
scoring defense, pass defense, like even the ones so BYU
and Utah are elite in Big twelve.
Speaker 6: Ranks at almost everything.
Speaker 5: One of the things that Utah is not great at
in Big twelve ranks and neither is BYU is passing
offense both. I think BYUS twelve and Utah is thirteen
or either way. But like they're neck and neck at everything,
including offensive efficiency, defensive efficiency. Like nearly everything, these guys
are neck and neck. The one place in terms of
Big time stats in Big twelve ranks.
Speaker 6: Where they differ is rush defense.
Speaker 5: Utah is the ninth best big twelve rushing defense BYU
has the second.
Speaker 6: And what's interesting is the one team that.
Speaker 5: Both BYU, that's one team BYU and Utah share so
far this season is West Virginia. And in that game,
b WHATU gave up one hundred and fifty six rushing
yards to West Virginia Utah. I know lots of Utah
fans wanted to say, oh, well, we beat West Virginia
by more points than you did, and you guys didn't
score as many as we did. Well, you know what's funny,
Utah gave up two hundred and sixty one yards on
the ground in a game they claim to have dominated.
If BYU's offensive line gets Bear and LJ going and
they have big days, you could see a similar situation
to Texas Tech where, look, I know the score of
Texas Tech says that the Red Raiders blew out Utah.
Speaker 6: If you watch the game, you know that the score
was close for a long time.
Speaker 5: Texas Tech just exploded in the last six minutes because
Utah had given up at that point.
Speaker 6: I think you could see something.
Speaker 5: Similar where if Utah wastes the first couple possessions and
Jay Hills defense shows up like we think they will.
BYU finds a way to lean on this run game,
because if they have to get into a pass game,
I think the Fano and John Henry Daily could cause
some problems in the pass rush. They're one of the
best pass rush is one of the best pressure rated
defenses in college football. If BYU finds a way to
run the ball and just own time of possession and
own the line of scrimmage from that point, they could
steal a couple of sessions from Utah and really keep
them out of it for a long time.
Speaker 4: You mentioned John Henry Daily. The guy's phenomenal. Yeah, absolutely.
Every game I watch is like, how did be?
Speaker 3: What you do?
Speaker 1: I know? Did my goodness?
Speaker 4: I thought he was going to be amazing. I'll be honest,
I did not think he'd be this good this soon.
Isaiah Jada is going to make or not make his
money in this game. If he can put on film
that he can stop a talent like John Henry Daily,
it's going to be a big, big thing for him.
This is the biggest game for Isaiah Jada. He's going
to be on that island. Utah doesn't rotate. It's defensive
ends at least not from what I've seen this year.
It's going to be Isaiah Jada versus John Henry Daily
all long. And John has been very good this year.
He's gonna have the toughest test of his career. I
don't think it's even close because John Henry Day is
an absolute monster on that side of the line.
Speaker 1: And that's going to be a big, big matchup in
this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I do think one of the more intriguing matchups
is Isaiah Jatta and Andrew Gentry versus Logan Fano and
John Henry Daily. Like that's that may make or break BYU, right,
if you're able to protect Bear and give him a
little bit more time and give him some opportunity to
get through his progressions, et cetera. Because I mean, Andrew
and Isaiah have been really good this year. Yeah, they've
been great in the run game, and I think for
the most part, they've been pretty good in the past game. Yeah,
you know, I think they've been I think there you
can make an argument that they're better than even last
year's duo cayleb TN and Briton Khim, who I thought
were great tackles for BYU. Very talented tackles.
Speaker 4: You know how I said that, I want by you
to use its seniority and just field twenty six year
old grown men on that offensive line. Andrew Gentry is
the template for that fifteen Andrew Gentries in the program.
Just rotate them in and out. The guy can grow
facial hair since he was probably ten years old.
Speaker 1: Just the ass man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Andrew, anyway, that's kind of a side note, but
that's what I'm envisioning for Bay's future on that offense line.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 3: Sorry, love it man, a little bit of a tent.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be spectacularly.
Speaker 4: And I feel it's redundant to say this because I
think I say this every year, but the stakes have
been raised. It's going to be physical. Utah is going
to be out for it. They want this game. They
want to take back that narrative big time. Bayu has
the narrative right now. They're winning the recruiting battles. B
Yu is the premier destination in the state right now.
Utah needs to change that. They need to get that
back because Utah, because not b Ways afforded the same staff,
the same uh uh even more resources than Utah has
as far as nil goes. That's a thing and Utah
needs to get that back, and they need to get
it back pretty fast because Bwau has a lot going
for it.
Speaker 1: And when you look at.
Speaker 4: Utah's roster, imagine this Utah team without Logan and Spencerfano,
without Smith Snowden.
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting some guys Jared comp.
Speaker 3: Starting to singer in this game, which was a big
loss for them.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, guys, if those the same guys were
recruited right now, they're going to BYU. They are going
and Utah needs to keep those type of guys with
the in state recruiting going to Utah right now, those
guys are going to b WAYU.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, And I don't know about Utah.
Speaker 4: Win necessarily flips that on a dime, but it certainly
helps Utah get back in.
Speaker 1: That regard because b WAYU has credibility.
Speaker 4: Now that it did not have when those guys were
being recruited the way you need to maintain that.
Speaker 1: They need to stomp on that. John Henry Daly's absolutely
staying up. B Wait you right.
Speaker 5: You.
Speaker 1: That's a big, big thing. That's a big component in
this game getting that recruiting back.
Speaker 4: And that's why I believe that Bway's on a more
productive uptick than Utah is. Because you look at the
recruiting classes. B way you starting to win those battles
and getting those guys. It has to change for the
University of Utah.
Speaker 1: They know this. They want this game. Hey, we're the
big boys. It's back. It never left. We're still there.
Speaker 4: They haven't won a game since twenty nineteen. That is
a long time, and b WAUS controlled that narrative. They're
the sexy school. They have the coach that everybody loves,
everyone wants to play for. They're putting dudes in the
NFL that are winning recruiting battles. You want that to continue.
So obviously, I'm always going to be concerned about the
recruiting aspect. Working with two four to seven sports I
was my foundation, That's how I started with all this.
But that's a huge component in this game, and Utah's
got to flip that narrative.
Speaker 3: What's interesting is, like I would say, Vegas and the
national media and we'll see what Game Day says, what
Big Newton kickoffs says, But the favorite in this game
is Utah. Yeah right, And what's the justification for it?
This is the justification. Bard Let's get into a Joe
Klatt on his show on Fox Sports pontificated on why
he believes Utah is gonna come out victorious versus the
Bayu Cougar's Let's listen in.
Speaker 9: This is a huge Top twenty five matchup and really
is going to separate the top end of the Big twelve.
The winner of this game inside track to go and
play for the Big twelve championship. And when you look
at Utah, they've gotten back on track. I know that
we saw them on Big Noon Saturday and they really
failed down the stretch. They got tired and Texas Tech
took it to him in the fourth quarter, and that
was impressive for the Red Raiders. But now you look
up and Utah has two dominant performances in their rearview
mirror since that lost to Tech. Devin dan Pierre looks healthy.
He was not healthy in that Tech game. He last
week against Arizona State rushed for one hundred and twenty yards.
So dan Pierre being healthy makes me believe that this
Utah offense could be explosive in particular run in the football,
and that.
Speaker 6: Does not compute for Byu.
Speaker 9: I know BYU's played well on the defensive side, but
this is an offense that I just don't think is
going to be able to score a ton of points,
even as well as they've played. And I'll give Bear
Brockmeyer a lot of credit because as a true freshman,
he's come in and played really well and allowed them
to run the football well.
Speaker 6: With LJ.
Speaker 9: Mortin, that's kind of a two headed monster there, LJ.
Martin averaging over one hundred yards per game. I do
think they're a bit limited on offense, and that's a
problem going up against Utah because of the scheme that
they use. See, Utah runs so much man coverage that
the box is always heavy with run defenders. And if
you can't get away from that man coverage or find
explosive plays to get them out of that man coverage,
then where do you go. You see Tech was able
to throw the football down the field in one on
one situations in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: Is by you going to be able to do that?
Speaker 10: I don't think so.
Speaker 9: By the way, BYU's linebacker on their defensive side, he
missed last week's game. His name's Jack Kelly. He had
an upper body injury and so he's a bit uncertain
for this one. And you're going up against a Utah
offense that can run it really well, in particular with
their quarterback Devin dan Pierre. I think Utah keeps this
thing rolling. I think they put themselves back on track
to get to the Big Twelve Championship game. This was
my dark horse to go to the playoff from the
Big Twelve. I think they still have a great chance
if they keep playing the way that they have the
last couple of weeks to get to that Big Twelve
Championship game with only the one loss to Texas Tech. Now,
then you'd start to have to consider yourself like, well,
hold on, is the Big Twelve gonna get two teams
in this thing? Because eleven to one with maybe a
loss to Texas Tech for a second time, eleven and two, Utah,
do they have a good enough resume to potentially sneak
themselves into the College Football Playoff. There's a chance, there's
a chance. And so in this one, this is a
massive game. I don't see BYU scoring many points in
this game. I like Utah to cover the three and
a half. I like them to win this one something
like twenty one thirteen. It's going to be nasty, defensive
oriented early in this game. That is as nasty a
rivalry as there is. Right there you go, that's Joe Clapp.
Speaker 4: With all due respect to Joel Klapp, his diagnosis of
the respective offenses is completely wrong, completely wrong. Who's been
multifaceted in their offensive attack?
Speaker 1: B way you were? Utah? B what you has?
Speaker 6: B way?
Speaker 1: You have shown that ability to beat you down the field?
Utah has not. You has been very very good.
Speaker 4: When it goes back to what it does, well, get
behind that massive offense line, go you have a dynamic quarterback.
Speaker 1: They can do that very very well, beat you down
the field. When has Utah done that?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: Which game did that happen? Did I miss that game?
Speaker 6: You must say?
Speaker 3: I think I've watched it in the Texas. I've seen
it connect but it was uh I think it was
called called.
Speaker 1: Back Okay, one play, one player, Okay, good on.
Speaker 5: You, But I mean it went so far because they
were illegally blocking downfield. So therefore the safety didn't realize
that he was supposed to be in past coverage that
I came back.
Speaker 1: You're taking Utah's receivers over Chase Roberts and Parker Kings.
Speaker 5: But this is why he has to because if you
remember during the off season. What did Joe Clatt say
top five teams I'm buying sock in this season? Was
Utah was one of those. Guess who was on the
top five listed? He was selling this season. He needs
BYU to not do well in the game because he
already made the take that and he's already looked bad.
Speaker 6: Because that's why he's saying, oh, well, seven looked that good.
Speaker 3: Not only that, he's a Pack twelve acolyte. Yes, he's
a Colorado.
Speaker 5: Colorado Maybe you know he's like Colorado's all time greatest
I guess besides Schador, but he hold he held the
records at Colorado.
Speaker 1: And you're saying he might be biased.
Speaker 3: Wow, No, no, I would say that a lot of that.
But that being said, like Vegas is lean, Okay, I've
want to give this Vegas. I want to get this
out of the way. Las Vegas is not in the
predictive game. The game they're in.
Speaker 4: They want to make ball games. They're in the making
money game. Utah, what did Utah do last week? They
put stopped Arizona State, a team that oh wow, that
team almost took Texas down in the college football play.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: Utah is good.
Speaker 4: They're winning forty two ten the way you wow, they're
struggling to get past Arizona is not that good. So
it's all perception is perception from the public that are
sitting in that sports book that are placing the money down.
They want to get same equal amount of money on
both sides of the ledgers so they can live off
the ten percent big That's what Vegas does.
Speaker 1: That's they're very, very good at that.
Speaker 4: I cannot stand the phrase, and I heard it right
after the bway Arizona Ga. Vegas is really good when
when the when that spreads like right there, okay, is
Vegas good? When the spreads off by forty points, which
happens all the time, happens.
Speaker 1: Vegas is not in the predictive game. They do not care.
Speaker 4: They care about attracting money and making money on both
sides of the ledger. It tries me crazy when they
put up that Utah is going to win by three
and a half points. It's not because it's some sharp
Oh yeah, I've broken down the tape and all this,
and yeah, you tell is that much about?
Speaker 1: No, that's not what it's about. No, what's the perception
all this and all that.
Speaker 4: They put out initial lines and the initial money comes in,
it moves the line one way or the other, and
the money came in for Utah.
Speaker 1: There you go, three and a half. They're very good
at what they do. But I just wanted to ran
on that because I think a lot of.
Speaker 4: People misunderstand what Vegas really does and how wines are set.
Speaker 3: Four or two against the spread this year, the last
two weeks they didn't cover. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you where Vegas is wrong that forty nine
and a half. Take that under all day long, Take
that d dark well. I don't want to advocate highway.
I don't want to advocate taking the dark desert highway.
But if you do, yeah, go to that sports but
play some money on that game. Is not over fifty points?
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Way?
Speaker 3: No interesting is ESPN analytics does slightly by zero point
six percentage points favor BYU the advanced analytics, which is FPI,
et cetera. And I didn't see Bill Conley's analytics. Did
Bill favor I think Bill may have even picked I
think Bill may have favored BYU slightly too there, But
there is sp plus metric quite interesting as you pull
it up, Utah is a slightly better team from an
efficiency standpoint. Through this year, sp plus has Utah is
the eighteenth best team I believe. Let's see here, let
me double check on this BYU's at twenty three and
then Utah, I want to say, is right there. I
mean they're pretty close. Sixteen So Utah sixteen BI twenty three.
Utah's offense thus far the season thirty third, their defense
six special teams forty eight from sp plus, which is
a predictive efficiency metric based off of what they've already
been produced and its opponent adjusted for BYU's offense fortieth
their defense fifteenth. But check this out, special teams are
sixth in the nation. So the biggest disparity is actually
the special teams units BYU. Special teams units significantly better
than Utah's. That's not always how it's been in this
rivalry game. In fact, it's been the opposite. BYU has
lost games due to special teams. YU won their game
last year due to special teams. Oh for sure, Kewen
Mary doesn't return that kickout there and the game winning
field goal. Now, so that to me that no one
like Joe Klatt's not talking about that any of the
the superficial analysts out there, They're not going to discuss
those things. He's gonna say the old adage is of
pressman coverage, pressman coverage, pressman coverage, b why you can't
beat press man coverage. And that's what I'm saying, Like
that's changed over the last five years. It has why
VESI has brought in wide receivers that have played in
the NFL. Dax Milne, Pukakua Sampson was a borderline NFL guy,
was in camps right, he scored a touchdown in this game.
One like he made that Utah defensive back look chilly
on that whip route. Chase Roberts can win, Parker can win,
Cody Hagen can win. These guys can win versus coverage that. Yeah,
maybe in the independent era or in the Mount West era,
some of these wide receivers struggled with because you didn't
have you have maybe one or two good wide receivers.
Now they have three or four, five guys.
Speaker 4: And I'll have this and I talked to a lot
of youth insiders. These aren't guys that are b way.
You homers that know things about Utah. These are rock solid,
you guys. I heard throughout the preseason that Utah's cornerbacks
they're okay, they're not really what we've had in the past,
and you Dodd really hasn't been tested.
Speaker 3: In the air at all this year When they were
I mean Will Hannon in the back of the quarterback,
he shredded him, completely demolished.
Speaker 1: He shredded them.
Speaker 4: So you like that again. I go back to what
I started the program with. This is Chase Roberts' game.
This is where he makes himself legendary, where he shreds
that that man coverage.
Speaker 1: I hope he's angry.
Speaker 6: I hope he's.
Speaker 1: Outside of him something.
Speaker 4: It's hard for me to imagine an angry Chase Roberts
because he's just such a nice kid and just the
kid every mom wants to see their daughter come home with.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: I hope he's angry. I hope he's jealous of Parker
that that on unhooked the trailer. Yeah, I'll show you
on hooking the trailer. Let's go right, Arizona. Now, man,
I'm six four, I'm a man. I am older than
these guys. I'm faster, I'm more physical, I nah ah,
it's not happening. Give me the ball, give me that target.
I want him in thehuddle. Bear look at me, dude,
look at me right now. Get the Austin CALLI think
Max Hall thing going because he's going to be afforded
one on one coverage. He's going to be open and
he's going to eat. I Bear, lets him eat. This
is Chase Roberts game. I'm telling you, Chase Ropers is
going to have a phenomenal game.
Speaker 1: He's going to have career highs. I'm seeing a Mongers.
I'm seeing this. He's going to be afford to ten targets.
Speaker 4: He's going to have over one hundred yards receiving in
at least one touchdown. That's what Chase Ropers is going
to do come Saturday. This is going to be his game.
I'm seeing it. I have foreseen it.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: Man, it's going to happen.
Speaker 3: Let's go to break, we'll be back. I want to
get into some stats. Have you gotten stool president a
barstool sports Dave Porteo fatigueyet.
Speaker 1: All over my Twitter. I'm tired of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I like it. I know, I know. Hammertime
show love and you got to be young in him.
Speaker 4: It's not that I dislike the Portinois. I really don't
have an opinion about him, to be honest with I
guess I'm too old for that.
Speaker 3: He gives some ratings.
Speaker 1: I want his job. I do know that, I absolutely want.
Speaker 3: This is more of a jealousy thing that you maybe
maybe a little bit that's the jealous a little bit
a little bit, so like you want to just eat
pizza and ice cream and make out lanterns table and.
Speaker 4: It has Man been doing all day transcribe me quotes
and putting out content.
Speaker 1: The importer are done now to do that. He's eating pizza.
Speaker 4: Plus he's making I don't know, one hundred times more
coin than them anyway, But at least.
Speaker 3: And and g Man does have a very very refined palate.
You know, he can go like what I call like
he can go from white trash food to like, you know,
some of the finest dining restaurants here in the state
of Utah, and he'll he'll give you a breakdown.
Speaker 4: He could be fantastic, Right, I do like my food,
I do. He does like the sustenance, Yeah, I don't.
I'm not a sauce connoisseur, like like the bank crittle.
Speaker 1: I love you guys, going to eat with Ben Dude.
Speaker 4: Sauce on sauce, herbs, Oh my gosh, all man verbs
and it's so that level on the waitress.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, I want that green sauce, but you don't
care that. No, we need all the sauces. I mean,
I was spoiled Roden. My dad was phenomenal chef. Phenomenal chef.
I just my mom was good too, but my dad, goodness,
gracious he is. I've heard about the legendary Cri doctor
C doctor. Like, we used to have my buddies come
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C Special? It was a sandwich that he made.
Speaker 1: I need a doctor C Special.
Speaker 3: My goodness, it's it's it's it's celestial. It's celestial. Doctor
C knows how to how to cook and also put
together a delicious sandwich. We're gonna go break, guys. Dave
Portnoy gives his review. We're gonna compare contrast what Utah
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he's in town, he's in Provo, this guy who's a
bit of a controversial figure in sports. Why is that, Well,
Barstool Sports is viewed as kind of a bottom of
the wrong sports entertainment company. You know, it's kind of
like it's based off of the idea I think is
just like a bunch of fans on barstools talking ball,
getting into the muck of it, cursing, spitting, drinking, eating
and drinking and being merry. Right, would you say that
that's an accurate picture that's Barstool Sports. Yep, it's a
little bit controversial. It's a border their borderline, their habitual
line steppers. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: Porno.
Speaker 3: He's a bit about habitual lines, so him being in provo, right,
I think that's very very interesting. Now, there was an
idea out there, there was a rumor that Barstool was
banned BYU they would not allow barstool to be in provo,
and Dave Porteno actually put that rumor to bed, which
I think is great. Like maybe twenty years ago, b
why you would say here no evil, speak no evil,
see no evil, Like we can't be associated with anything
of any port, like we saw Connor McGregor at a
BAU basketball game last year, Like we're welcoming. Like if
you don't want to be weird, we were talking this
off the ear. If you don't want to be viewed
as weird, then you got to invite more people to
your home. You got to invite more people to the community.
You gotta have conversations, awkward conversations, show them your good fruits,
and let them decide whether or not you're weird or not. Right,
the YouTube campaign of I'm a Mormon, it just made
us with weirder. The meat the Mormon's campaign just made
a sli weirder. You're trying too hard. Just welcome people
in you know, we had Jamal Williams on our show yesterday.
What a great interview that was. He's like, I didn't
know what love was. I didn't know what a family
was until I moved to Utah. And his mother's wonderful, right,
but he had no idea, Like this is him bearing
his testimony about like how much he loves Utah, the
state of Utah, and the families that adopted him, the
people that essentially adopted him embraced him. So that's how
you do it, guys, this is how you do it.
You welcome in the Dave port knows that if the
one to say, look, this is who we are, this
is how we live. And you know, if you want
to curse or do whatever, it's like, all right whatever,
like you know they'll be respectful, which he has been.
But let's talk about stats. Here he gives a rating
a review of the BYU Bookstore, which does great work.
By the way, shout out to the BOU Bookstore. Let's
get into it. Let's listen to Dave port Noy's review.
Speaker 10: All right bookstore review.
Speaker 11: Here we go BYU Bookstore, and I know what everyone's
asking me because Utah.
Speaker 6: I gave a ridiculously high score.
Speaker 10: I don't remember when I gave Utah.
Speaker 11: It was the first book nine to two, so me
Cosmo BYU provo.
Speaker 10: First thoughts in the bookstore, which I'm told they got
dinged the point because parking was impossible. We had to
illegally park there was nowhere to do it, so we're
walking in. It was also hard to find.
Speaker 3: It's like in the middle of the student union and
all that, so in.
Speaker 10: Start a little bit behind the eight ball. However, they
have everything.
Speaker 11: And not only do they have everything, they have like
a giant TV that like scream with like stands that
people are watching sports highlights.
Speaker 10: They had a little slide for kids. They have everything.
They also had little lemon which I'm wearing. They have
the starter jackets they taught me Bahama the hats. It's
a gigantic store.
Speaker 11: They also have like homemade fudge, these cinnamon gummies.
Speaker 6: And chocolate.
Speaker 3: I definitely have never had this.
Speaker 1: Oh come on, I've never had this.
Speaker 11: They're making ice cream downstairs, so there's a lot more
going on now.
Speaker 10: Utah may be like, well, they have a lot less
going on, so that's why they get a lot more
going on in the store.
Speaker 11: Regardless if Utah's Bookstore are nine to two, this is
gonna be close to ninety six.
Speaker 10: I'm just calling it as I see it. And this
will be the fit for tomorrow for big new kickoffs.
So there you go. There's bookstore. Cosmo even have a
book about Cosmo.
Speaker 11: Now there is there is a rumor Cosmo does too much,
we'll see, but they had a great book on him.
Speaker 10: So yeah, there it is. That's review nine to six bookstore. Yeah,
very good, very good.
Speaker 3: I think he also went over to the creamery and
I think he gave it like a nine to four.
Is that what he gave with ice cream? Yes? Uh
so he gave the creamery on ninth uh a nine
point four, given some high ratings, some high marks for
Provo the bookstore. And look he did poke fun at
us a little bit. Hey, they can't drink, they're not
gonna be partying, but they and they did, but they
do sugar right, And look, let's be honest, let's embrace
who we are. We love ourselves some sugar. Like there's
no answer us about it. We got to embrace that,
that weirdness, you know. And and and like my buddy
makes fun of me all the time for the swigs
and the cookies and all of that. He's like, you
guys are addicted to to sugar. What's worse been me
and my alcohol? Are you and your stugar? I'm like,
damn you, damn you, Steven. That's what I said him.
That's what argument. And I gave him. I act like
I was gonna backhand him. Don't you speak speak truth
to me? But we we ended up, you know, you know,
figuring it out and impeaceably resolving our issues. But he
brings up a very good point, and this is our
vice and we do it extremely well and we should
rejoice in it. Guys. Any thoughts on the reviews from
Dave Portno, What I would love to know is.
Speaker 5: Because, like I've been to this the bookstore a number
of times, there's some elderly people, some elderly BYU.
Speaker 6: Found shout out to them.
Speaker 5: I'm curious if they were like, why is there a
mob of people just following this fifty something old guy
and why is he wearing this dumb Cosmo hat and
sitting next to Cosmo? Like I'm sure those people had
no clue what was going on whatsoever, which I find hilarious.
Speaker 6: He was saying that he goes so he goes.
Speaker 5: To every bookstore when they do big nan but he
was saying sometimes he'll spin up to a thousand dollars
in the bookstore and then never wear that stuff again.
Speaker 6: Just wear it's a big new kickoff, and then never again.
Speaker 5: So shout out to Dave Portnoy for given the BYU
Bookstore the true experience and finding out just how well
it rates on a national level compared to other schools, especially.
Speaker 3: University of You time. Yeah, I mean some of the
other comments he's made, like the he rated the hotel
he's at that's like right across the street from Lavelle
and you can see the wassat front backdrop and the
y and he's like, hotel is not good, it's average. Whatever.
But that view that I have that is not a painting,
that is not a digital image, that is not anything
that is a real pig and it does. It just
looks amazing, And we take it for granted here in Utah.
We take it for granted around this time in October
and when when the leaves are changing and we have
clear skys, snowcapped mountains, it's a sunny day, clear skies,
and we just kind of take it for granted, and
like everyone's just in awe of our Wassatch front. So
attitude of gratitude. He gives a whole lot of love
to our great state and the great city of Provo.
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