Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of
geek Erst podcast, your weekly geek. I am one of
two hosts. You're a whiz Taylor Field, and.
Speaker 2: I'm joined by Hey, my name's Bill Muss.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we got it's it's a it's a juicy
episode tonight. We got for sure stuff to talk about.
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Speaker 1: We've got three head honkers here, hanchos to just break
down with you guys for the honk honk news. We
don't want them here, definitely, not not tonight. But yeah,
it's gonna be it's gonna be good. And I'm excited
to kind of break this stuff down with you tonight, Dylan.
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right on, right on. Uh. And what else we got?
Speaker 1: We got the Project Tailor Mary review me and Travis did.
Speaker 2: That was a good time. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think you and Travis started up the Daredevil season
two because me and Kirkland bounced on you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you you caught up on the episode now?
Or I did?
Speaker 1: I did. I watched it that night because I was
awake and it was like midnight, and so I put
it on and I watched it just like I got
to get it out.
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you missed the reviewer or you're like, Eah, that's fine,
I'll be back.
Speaker 1: There's a few things I definitely want to talk about
from that episode, but I know I'll bring it up
later on in like a I plan to join for
at least one of the Daredevil reviews. That's my goal,
not next week, because next week is two episodes back
to back, so that's just they're crunching crunching it. Yeah, yeah,
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So our first big topic of the night is the
trailer for HBO's Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. It's
coming out Christmas twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: That's this year.
Speaker 1: That's this year, Dylan. How excited or just unexcited are
you for this?
Speaker 2: I am extremely unexcited, unenthused, disinterested. I don't know if
I could care less about this show existing. The Quidditch
thing isn't no, it's really not. I mean since I
think I've had this stance since the show was announced
until now, it's like I just don't need this in
my life. Like what am I gonna do is sit
around for eight years as this show finishes up with
a plot that I already know in great detail, Like
I don't I don't. I don't care at all about
this show. I think the trailer is as sterile as
it gets, you know, It's it's like, here's the basic
things that showed it off well, they created the sets
well and all that, Like, nothing's wrong with it. It seems
like the casting is all right. But yeah, I have
zero less than zero interest in this show at all.
So I uh, and I don't. I don't. I don't
know if any trader. I think a trailer that could
have got me interested is if it was like really
stylized and different. But to me, this just seems like
an exact repeat, rerun, redo of the tone and vibe
that we've done before. And I mean, I know, I
know a lot of those movies have a different tone
and vibe to them, especially just depending on who it
was directing them and whatnot. But this to me just
seems like some amalgam middle in between between kind of
the vibes of all the different movies. So, yeah, I
think I needed something more I wouldn't need like another
story in this world possibly, but even then, I'm not
too interested in the world right now, or something with
more style or something more unique to it. But it's
just like redoing the hits, and I don't know, I'll
just go back to the movies if I if I
want that fix, you know. Yeah, So call me pessimistic,
but that's how I'm feeling about this show.
Speaker 1: I don't think you are the only one I'll say that.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Madison, for example, is very big on the fact that
this show does not need to happen and we should
have just left it with the movies. And I'm I'm
kind of in that boat as well, but I won't lie.
When I saw that trailer, I thought, Hey, this is
doing it for him, is pulling me in back into
this Wizarding World. And the Fantastic Beast trilogy just it
had its moments, but the highlight of that trilogy for
me was the second one where they go to Hogwarts
and it's like the is it disapparate? I think?
Speaker 2: Is what it's?
Speaker 1: Oh, they disaparate and arrived there and then the Hogwarts
headwikes app kicks in operate.
Speaker 2: Is it just operate disaparatespate sounds sounds wrong. I don't
have to call you out. It does sound it doesn't
roll off the tongue.
Speaker 1: Let's see, uh apper, Yeah, Oh, apparition is a form
of a stantaneous magical teleport. Oh, so that would be like,
I can't trust that. I can't trust the chapt.
Speaker 2: I operate or I operated, or the.
Speaker 1: Rules of operating. Yes, it's operating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you evil guys. I think they do something that
starts with a D and sounds like what you said.
Uh when they zap around, don't they be like a
different thing. There's just death theaters. That's all I know
is that I know. That's what I mean. I think
that I feel like the Death Theaters do some other
thing that sounds like what you said. But anyway, not
that's extreme tend.
Speaker 1: And flexing his Harry Potter fan card right now.
Speaker 2: I don't I can't remember the specific thing. So if
I was poor, but.
Speaker 1: No, I I'm definitely feeling a little bit more excitement
after watching this trailer. You know, there's definitely something missing
because this is the thing that me and Travis have
been kind of talking about a little bit.
Speaker 2: And he even pulled up a video.
Speaker 1: Where it was showing the trailers side by side, two
of them. The one was the original and the other
one had like a filter thrown on, which it just
felt more warm. I thought this is this feels more
like Harry Potter this one. To me, it feels like,
when you watch this trailer, we're skipping all the way
to Deathly Hallows. It just feels dark and gloomy. And
maybe that's what they're going for, I think, because maybe
that's the HBO goal with this, but I think this
first season Philosopher's Stone needs to be warmer.
Speaker 2: When you watch this, you don't really have where was
the darkness in this for you? Because I definitely did
not have that perception. I feel like it was.
Speaker 1: It was definitely the from the start when he's getting
his haircut, you know, and he's dealing with weird's. Yeah,
did we even see like a villain after that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, But it's just like the set pieces.
Speaker 2: It just felt dark and gritty.
Speaker 1: But hey, I'm not saying that's a con. They could
totally be going that way just to create a certain
feeling of I don't want to say dread. That might
be a little bit too too negative, but I mean,
at this point in his life, he's living a very
depressing childhood. You know, he's being bullied and everything, so
it's it's definitely a little bit more harsher of an
atmosphere for him. So him and this is this kind
of filter of this is this shadow kind of darkness
that they've kind of overlaid over the trailer for me,
And I'm going to be very open receptive to it.
But I wasn't sure how I was gonna feel right now,
but I'm gonna be willing to give that, obviously a shot.
Just see how it's woven into the story by having
this kind of like this dark aesthetic to.
Speaker 2: It as opposed to the movie.
Speaker 1: When you watch that first movie, it's super warm, it's
super like colorful and vibe print, and the tone is
very different color wise, the color grading and all that. Yeah,
And the other thing too is I don't recall seeing
any spells in this trailer, any magic doings. And so
the highlight for me and Harry Potter was when magic
really got like led like crazy like smart lights Phillips
smart when wars, Oh, yeah, like when you see in
I think it was probably well when they were doing
the Patrona's charm in Prisoner of Azkaban, that was pretty sweet.
But then when we get to Goblet of Fire and
Baltimore and Harry's one sync up in the in the
graveyard and just got those cool like beams of a
vata cadabra and Spelly armiss Uh was it Armos the
disarm one, that's the disarm Yeah, Spelly disarm us. But
it was just when you get those special effects, it's
super super Uh, it's it's it's it's nice, it's jazzy.
And I hope that they keep that.
Speaker 2: I hope that they do that in here. But do
you want you want that stuff to look the same
or do you want them to go for a new
a new vibe. I do want it to You want
two beams and two guys just like pushing their beam
as hard as they can push.
Speaker 1: I do I want to do all that energy into
the beams. Yeah, I think it looks really really cool.
And when you're looking at those later movies again Deathly
Hollows Part two, specifically, when you have in the courtyard
Hogwarts of Boldemort and Harry, their ones are linking up again,
and it's just this whole movie has been very dark
and the aesthetic is just very shadowy and whatnot. But
then it's just all of a sudden, just the magic
is just so vibrant and light and colorful and just beaming.
It's like, I really like that, whereas those first movies
you don't see the ones actually expel any kind of light.
In the first couple of movies, they're just waving their
wands and things are happening.
Speaker 2: And even in.
Speaker 1: Order of the Phoenix, you get they're moving the wands
and things are happening, but things aren't necessarily coming out
of the wands really because they're using their environments, right,
And that Voldemort versus Dumbledore fight, Like Dumbledore waves his
wand and then the water comes out of the fountain
and is this orb around Valdemore, and Valdemore like makes
all the glass fall from around him and then shoots
the glass shards at Dumbledore, and Dumbledore swoots his wand
out turns its dust.
Speaker 2: So like you're not really seeing the.
Speaker 1: Spells expel out of the wands and so but that's
a different type of magic. That part of me. Cedric's
getting mad that I'm talking about Harry Potter.
Speaker 2: Uh, He's like, not enough mentions of Cedric. Yes, I
mean there's a lot of quidditch scenes, but did we
see Cedric industry?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, no, my boy, Yeah, it's
for sure.
Speaker 2: Maybe in season two. I mean he'll probably be in
their season one because he's in the first movie, right,
because he's like, he's like the coach for.
Speaker 1: Harry, right that.
Speaker 2: And no, that's not Cedric. Oh that's that guy's name.
Oh that's Oliver. That's Oliver Wood. Oliver Wood. Cedric is
the guy in Goblet, right, So we won't see him
for a few years yet. Okay, okay, sense see, I'm
not I'm not. I don't have the encyclopedic Gary Potter.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: A fun fact, Oliver Wood actually comes back and fights
in the Battle of Hogwarts and definitely had this part two.
You see him flying around on his right. Good for him,
good for him. But yeah, I speaking of Oliver Oliver Wood.
We're going through and we're almost done Goblet of Fire
right now, the audiobook, and we have the all of
the other ones that we're gonna eventually get through. But
it's every book Oliver Wood is so freaking like, oh,
he's just unstable. And I don't mean that in like
a bad way.
Speaker 2: It's just he's like an intense energy to him. Even
in like the first movie, I think he does.
Speaker 1: But everything that's quiddage related, he's just like he's got
the itch for it.
Speaker 2: He's got it bad, and it's it's hilarious.
Speaker 1: In the books what he prioritizes beneath quidditch, Quidditch is
like the all time number, right.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's relatable. I feel like everyone I have,
the people I played Melee with are like what you're describing,
or they're just really intense and all they care about
is the game and nothing else. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, So I hope that they kind of represent
that or reflect that a little bit from his book
persona in in the TV show, because you get a
little bits of that, you're right in the movie. Yeah,
when he's like Colin on McGonagall, like you can't cancel quidditch.
Speaker 2: Quiet, would you know?
Speaker 1: Like I want to see that, but up to the tens,
you know, let's just just run with it. But hey,
I mean when it's a TV show, we maybe maybe
you get a whole episode dedicated to Oliver Wood's backstory.
Speaker 2: You know, we have time for that.
Speaker 1: Now we got a whole episode quidditch and maybe.
Speaker 2: He also lived under a staircase and had abuse of parents,
and we just never knew the time to divulge into that,
you know.
Speaker 1: And this first season is going to be eight episodes,
and so each season is a book, right, I think
that's the rule of thumb here.
Speaker 2: God. I hope. So if they stretch out longer than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, two seasons per books, so we'll do actually sixteen
seasons total.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I wonder if they do that for
like the finale, like the like they did with Deathly Hollows.
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't put it past them. Yeah, I
just hope that we don't do I hope that they
don't do anything along the lines of like, how's the
Dragon season one where you get five episodes four episodes
in within their in their younger sells, and in the
back half of the season you jump ahead like ten
years and now they're older.
Speaker 2: I don't want that.
Speaker 1: I want them to go with these kids and don't
take long breaks in between the seasons, like you got to.
You gotta stay on top of this, because prime example,
Avatar The Last Airbender on Netflix. Season one casting was
great the ages if they fit with their counterparts on
the anime, and then season two gets greenlit, and then
starts getting made and finally here we are years later
and these kids are old. Aang is a full man now,
he's not a little boy. So I hope that they
they don't space out the filming between seasons too much,
and they they run accordingly with it, because I think
the casting of these characters in this trailer and in
in what their representations of Harry, Ron and Hermione.
Speaker 2: I loved it. I really really did.
Speaker 1: Every time Hermione is just kind of like looking around
and just like like kind of giving this a little
bit of a smile. I thought, Man, I'm getting serious
like Hermione Granger vibes from here and even like a
little bit like the Emma Watson kind of like vibe
in there too. I saw some people commenting about Ron Weasley,
but I think he's I think he was great when
he was doing this, like just he seems like a
Ron and then and then the the actor playing Harry
as well. I'm not trying to compare in this at all.
I think that so far, what I'm seeing is that
they're bringing their own energy to these roles, and I'm
really happy for them, and I I don't want people
to come down on these kids and you know, fudge
all over them and just do the comparisons, because all
I've been seeing is a lot of comparisons online, notably
with one character called uh Severus.
Speaker 2: That's interesting because I feel like I feel like the
general consensus on like the early Harry Potter movies that
they're like, oh yeah, these they weren't like, very very
good at acting yet. So I feel like, I don't
know if people coming into this, like, wouldn't I see, like,
these actors seem pretty good. I just assume, based on
the quality of child actors these days, that these kids
are gonna be better than you know, Radcliffe and Watson
and stuff. And in the early days. I mean, obviously
we're nostalgic for that. We like the performances, We love
what they did and brought to those characters, but you know,
someone was acting was a little rough if you go
back to those movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the big thing back then too,
was they the three have to have chemistry with each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna sell these characters, they can't just you
could have someone who plays an amazing harmione, But if
they don't have that chemistry with the other too. You're
damaging the show. And so far from this trailer, I
just felt chemistry between all of them. They just they
felt like they were lifelong friends already, you know, in
the meeting, and so I think that's great and I'm
excited to see them run with that. There is something
else I was going to bring up, but god damn,
you think I remember it, I cannot.
Speaker 2: What did you think of the performance? Because the look
is pretty much the same, So would you think the
performance of Hagrid Nick Frost there Nick Frost, Yes, he's
doing something different. I feel like he's not quite as whimsical. No.
Speaker 1: I mean, the old school Hagrid was very much just
this huggable bear. He was just super like cozy and
comfy and warm. This Hagrid feels very He just feels
like he's just got a hopeful, optimistic kind of just
mentality to him where you could tell him like, hey man,
there's a common coming it's gonna annihilate all life on
the planet, and he'd be like, you know, your parents
were good people, Harry. You know he's gonna just say
something very positive. Uh, And And I like that. I'm
also a little bit biased because I like Simon Peg
and Nick Frost a lot, and I think Simon Peg
should I'd love it if he was in here somewhere
with Nick Frost. But someday, someday, yeah, he'll be, He'll.
Speaker 2: Be imagine, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I I do, though, really like Nick Frost, and so
seeing him in this role, I couldn't pick anyone else better,
you know, out there right now, other than than Nick Frost.
I think he's he's great, and I think he's gonna
he's gonna really do well. I mean, he's gonna be
there for all eight seasons. I hope, hope they don't
recast him or anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's a spec on my monitor rate where
your face is, and he's really bothering me. I'm trying
to scratch it off my screen.
Speaker 1: Are you just you scratching my face pretty much?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, and I'm really itchy in my eye.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just good that you didn't feel it like a
voodoo dollar.
Speaker 1: M Well, how about how about you? How do you
feel about the Nick Frost He's fine?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess uh yeah, I am partial to the
og uh performance of that character. Uh, because if this
one seemed like a little bit less personality for me. Obviously,
the look is down. They got that, they got the look.
They nailed that hard. Not too I guess, just big
nasty coat and a big old beard and head of
hair or whatever. But yeah, I don't know. I don't,
I don't. I don't think. I feel like he wasn't
going for anything. It felt like a little bit dry,
I would say. But I'm sure he'll zest it up,
spice it up in the actual show. We'll see I mean,
maybe not. I guess this is kind of what we're
gonna get. Like what you were saying there, we haven't
really seen the magic. We didn't see much magic in this.
Like that makes sense of like they're probably still working
on that stuff. If the show's coming out later this year,
they're probably still punching in all that special effects and whatnot.
But the acting and the acting has been acted, you know,
that's that stuff's in the can. I assume they've already
started on season two filming. I could be wrong with that,
but I would hope probably pretty soon here if they
want to keep this coming out once a year, which
is I assume what they're going for. Maybe not. I
don't know what production times are like on TV shows
these days, but but yeah, I don't know. We'll see
what happens there. But didn't stand out to me too much.
Seems like he's, you know, getting he was getting like
a B plus I would say it wasn't elevating it.
You know.
Speaker 1: So we got nine months until the show pops out,
and so it looks like seasons one and two are
filmed consecutively to accommodate the young cast aging. Okay, filming
of season two slated to start around July twenty twenty six.
This is shortly after season one raps, so I guess
they're still doing season one stuff right now.
Speaker 2: And interesting, I mean, yeah, presumably they're gonna like, oh,
that's kind of crazy actually, because yeah, I wonder if
they're gonna, like I can't I can't imagine they wait
untill the show's out to like get feedback and then
change things for seeming too. I have to imagine they
want to film that before before uh, this thing releases.
But I also don't know, like, because you know, big
part of Harry Potter's that we go through all the
seasons and stuff, So I assume you just do on
like studio lots these days, but I don't know if
that like requires them to film a different times of
years so they can get snowy snowy stuff and other
vibes and whatnot. Yeah, that's right, there's gonna be ways
around that or else movies and shows which has never
got made. It'd be too crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the things I did to see was that
they had built an actual little coliseum for the quidditch,
which I'm excited to see. And I heard that we're
gonna be seeing Snape on a broomstick as well, which
is pretty cool because I don't think, aside from the
quidditch teacher, you ever see the professor's really on on brooms.
I mean, let's strow Dumbledore on a broomstick while we're
at it. Let's get them up in the air. You know,
I'm down for that.
Speaker 2: I that might not be good for his brittle old bones.
Speaker 1: I don't know, are you so? Are you thinking we're
gonna get brittle old Dumbledore. We're gonna get like a
prisoner of Azka band onwards, like full line fighting Dumbledore.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a little bit. I feel
like he's gonna start a bit, uh, you know, Lively
got some zest, but then I think he'll become a
little bit more a weathered by the end of the shore. Yeah, yeah,
I think that would be. You know, I don't know
if I.
Speaker 1: Got anything else specific to highlight on this on this trailer,
just it's uh, yeah, that's a good time. I'm excited
and like s Pub's in the chat. I remember the
Batman dropped a full trailer for the movie while the movie.
Speaker 2: Was still filming, So.
Speaker 1: For a show, I'm sure they have enough footage to
make a trailer, true. Yeah, And I mean when you
look at everything that gets covered in that first book
and then that first movie, everything we saw in the
trailer so far, it felt like this is probably just
the first like three to four episodes. I mean, most
of the stuff we saw was him probably in episode one,
dealing with the bullying and the Dursleys, and then getting
the Hogwarts and after that, I mean, you get a
little bit of stuff at Hogwarts, but then you got
everything with Fluffy and everything with Green Gods, and you
got everything going on with like again the Quidditch and
all this other stuff. So there's lots that they didn't
throw on that trailer, So pubs, you are absolutely right
that it's just a fraction of stuff that they've shown,
because there's still a lot that they got to either
film or or has been filmed with up in the
trailer and so forth. But yeah, for sure, Yeah, my
wife was just waterboarding over there. Oh you go, pro
she's she's she's a strong independent woman. H Uh yeah.
Anything else you would add to Harry Potter or should
we sally for it? Okay, we're leaving Hogwarts now we
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we are back, and we are We're getting into the boats.
We're sailing off to uh Middle Earth, Dylan, we are.
Where were you when you heard.
Speaker 2: This news the new movie announcement? Yes, jeez again, you're
asking me things that happened earlier this week, and it's
really hard to remember. I was maybe I was at work.
It probably dropped during the day, so I was probably working.
I was probably working, Uh what was it? The officer
at home can't remember. I was working. Probably saw it
in the discord and I said, what the fuck is
going on here? And then I closed discord and caught
back to work. Something like that.
Speaker 1: I was going to the gym with Travis and s
Plub showed the discord and it was like ten thirty
at night in travel.
Speaker 2: Oh so it wasn't during the day, Okay, it was not.
Speaker 1: Peter Jackson and Stephen Colbert did this little video thing
and it was released at night.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't watch the video. I didn't watch
that video. What happened?
Speaker 1: So Peter Jackson just starts He's talking and talking and
it sounds like, okay, like Hunt for Gallam stuff, and
then they start going to like, oh, you know, we're
doing something else too, and it's like, I'm gonna get
this call going on here, I'm paraphrasing, and then Stephen
Colbert joins into the call and he's talking about how
he is writing a script for this sequel film, and
both of them are basically just highlighting how it seems
like Hunt for Gallum obviously is pulling from the chapter
from Fellowship, and that this New Shadows of the Past
movie is pulling a chapter off out of the books
as well. Just that was something that Stephen Colbert was highlighting.
Was Fellowship with the Ring was a great movie, but
there was stuff that was not covered. There were chapters
that were skipped.
Speaker 2: Over in the movie.
Speaker 1: So these two films serve as a platform that tackle
those missing chapters, but are going to prop up and
support the original trilogy of films. It's not going to
replace it or change anything like that. And so you're
you're getting a lot of og people coming back in here.
I mean, you're getting in shadows of the past. You're
dealing with Sam, Mary and Pippen in the wake of
Proto's death. But that confused me because not he went
to the Undying Lands. But I don't know how this
shit works. But they're basically going to the boat over Yeah,
holding how tragic that would be, God damn. But yeah,
they they're kind of reminiscing about times and going and
following in their their footsteps of where their journey had
gotten off. And so I don't even remember her name.
Uh what is her name here? Eleanor, Sam's daughter, So, uh, okay,
here's a synopsis perfect. Fourteen years after the passing of Proto, Sam, Mary,
and Pippen set out to retrace the first steps of
their adventure. Meanwhile, Sam's daughter, Eleanor, has discovered a long
braided secret and has determined to uncover why the war
the Ring was very nearly lost before it even began.
Me and Travis spent like thirty minutes just wondering what
the fuck that means, because like, what did you come
up with?
Speaker 2: I fuck all, Like, it's just it's I was hoping
this thirty minute deliberation between two of my colos here
would come up with some a good explanation. I mean,
the War the Ring.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, Okay, this must be when the Elves
and al Ron and the humans like a seal door
and then marched on Mount Doom, because this is when
Sarahon was at like peak power and he had his
ring propped on his hand and he was going to town.
Speaker 2: But that wasn't it.
Speaker 1: Obviously, the War of the Ring is the main focus
of the original trilogy, so when you're just trying to
think why it was, the war was nearly lost before
you even began. Is this gonna be tied into Hunt
for Gollum where she learns oh, Gollum told the Orcs
where the Ring was with Shire and Bagoons.
Speaker 2: You know, like it's just.
Speaker 1: It's it's hard, But I'm curious, what's your interpretation of this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know what the heck's going on
this definitely, like I don't know if this is like
this can't be from what you're saying earlier. Then like, oh,
let's fill in the gaps from Fellowship, Like this is
not that right because obviously Sam like didn't have a
daughter then started Fellowship of the Ring. So maybe there's
like parts of that, or maybe there's like a flashback
or something to some of these these times fill in
some of those gaps. But this just seems like some
new some new fiction, and I don't know it's it's
you know, I have to imagine part of that. Like,
I guess, are all those Hobbits coming back? Do we
got Billy Billy Bob there? And uh? Sam, why I
can't remember the actor's names at the top of my dome.
Speaker 1: Here Sean Aston. Yeah, Travis was convinced that because they
got Froto coming back and they're gonna d h him
in Hunt for Gollum, that you're gonna see that wait
coming back.
Speaker 2: For Hunt for Gallum. I don't think I remembered that fact, okay,
but so but he didn't want to come back for
this Hobbit story. I feel like if he did, if
he was open to it, I feel like, wouldn't they
change the story? I guess it wouldn't really make sense
because why would proto like come back to just power
around after he makes that decision to return of the King.
I don't know. This whole thing seems kind of strange.
You know that. The weird part about this too is
like this news dropped and then like a day later
or something. I saw in the discord that Conan O'Brien's
writing like a Dark Night movie or something.
Speaker 1: It's like, No, that's fake. That's that's okay, Travis. Travis
dropped a hard false in the discord. Let's just put
that out.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't read these things with enough of detail. Okay.
So I was about to say, what is up with
this rise of like these talk show hosts coming in
to uh write these major ip scripts. So, Travis, you've
got no more troll posts okay, and the discords are banned?
Uh new ban Travis for me as the lead moderator
on our discorsion.
Speaker 1: No, he said it was it was false. He he
didn't post that.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, band, whoever put that in the uh,
you don't have to Bama. I'm just kidding. Okay, that's
good because I was I was gonna say what's going
on here? Like do these guys are they like not
in the writer's guild so you can like pay them
less as like something like that, like some weird workaround.
But I mean, I don't know, is is Colbert a
good He's obviously a comedy writer because he presumably writes
a lot of the jokes for his shows and what out,
But like, I don't know, is this I had?
Speaker 1: This is so.
Speaker 2: Weird to me. This is such a strange choice of
a combination of people, So I don't know. Maybe it
is gonna be more of a silly comedic thing or whatever,
but I don't know. This this seems like a even
worse cash grab attempt than like Hunt of Gollum, which
seems like, you know, they're at least getting so many
people back, and it's close enough for the story, and
it's using a lot of the beloved characters. But I
don't know how like a movie about just the three
Hobbits screwing around is gonna do, especially if you don't
get those actors back, which I assume they'd only do
this if they could get those actors back. But I
don't know.
Speaker 1: I think you're getting the actors back but Stephen Colbert
and I was not aware of this before, but I
was reaffirmed this by Travis and online too, a lot
of people were talking about how he is a absolute
whiz when it comes to other rings. This guy is
probably like one of the biggest people on the planet
that knows the lore inside and out, read the books
countless times, and just like lives and breathes the world
of Middle Earth. So he is definitely the guy to
go to for this information, which reinforces my confidence that, okay,
maybe there is gonna be something here. But I was
doing a little bit of a little fact check and
it looks like photo Bagins does eventually die in the
Undying Lands, so he sailed there to heal and whatnot
from his physical wounds. But the Endying Lands do not
grant immortality to mortals. They only allow mortals to live
out the remaining days in peace rather than dying of
you know, pain and then the.
Speaker 2: Middle Earth world.
Speaker 1: So he does die, and so that's the point where
the oh, the Three Hobbits kind of start to gather
and reminisce. Ah, So at least in that sense, it's
not just pulled out of out of thin air. He
like photo dying is part of the story, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just specifically part about them retracing their steps
is like why, why why is that what we're doing here?
Back to the cornfields and run away from the farm. Yeah,
I don't know, and like, who's the villain of this?
Like they obviously aren't gonna tracing them around. Yeah, I
guess we could do some bomb like that. To me,
when I heard that you say that they want to
fill in some of the gaps from Fellowship, not necessarily
with this, but between this and Hunt for Gollum, I
just think, oh, bomba doo makes sense because that was
a big thing of the books that didn't make it
into the movie at all. But geez, I don't know.
I this is less intriguing for me than than Hunt
for Galam for sure, And that's dicey. That's definitely just
so cash grabby that it's hard for me to be
extremely high about it. I mean, it's Lord of the Rings.
I'll probably be there still, but uh, I don't know.
I feel like this is one of the one of
the weaker plot lines they could have picked. Now, I
apparently am much lower. Lord of the Ring is lower
level than the writer of this movie. But does that
translate into an intriguing script or a place that I
really want to see more characters in development? I I
don't think that has a correlation. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, And I don't think you're the only
one out there feeling that way either. I know I
expected one of my friends to na kind of reciprocate
that and feel a little bit not super hot and
heavy on this. When I shared the news, he was
actually like, Oh, let's fucking go, I'm writing. I was like, really,
Return of the King sequel? Really okay? And that's another
thing too that me and Travis highlighted was this hunt
for Gallum is what two years out, which means that
we're looking at this movie being in four years away.
It's still that's some longevity to it. So why announce
it now at like midnight? This is something that could
have been dropped another point in time. But it was
like Tolkien Day or something Travis was saying. So I
don't know, it's a little peculiar just.
Speaker 2: To yeah, is that his birthday or is it just
an arbitrary day that we've made.
Speaker 1: Let's see Tolkien Day.
Speaker 2: What is Tolkien Day?
Speaker 1: Tolkien Reading Day celebrate annually in March twenty fifth from
both the works of J. R.
Speaker 2: Tolkien.
Speaker 1: So there you go. That's they announced a new movie on.
Speaker 2: Days day days. You know, we don't need all these days.
There is there certainly is. Yeah, you know, we do
know is the we do need GV Day. That's the
important one. What happens in AUGUSTA.
Speaker 1: Yes, that we're narrowing down a weekend, but.
Speaker 2: It's not always the same day for us. That's the
thing where Yeah, that's true. GV Reading Day.
Speaker 1: That'll be the next thing that we introduced, just like
Tolkien Reading Day.
Speaker 2: You go over do that book club. We've done a
little bit of comic book stuff, but do you think
we'll ever I guess you guys have reviewed some books,
some Star Wars books.
Speaker 1: Right, we've reviewed some Star Wars books. I think when
we're like in our seventy eighties, we'll just exclusively become
a book club.
Speaker 2: We'll just talk about books at that point, right, That
makes sense? Yeah? Cool.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what else is there in relation
to this Lord of the Rings here?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I guess yeah. Colbert is co writing the script with
his son Peter McGee, So that's pretty cool, and franchise
franchise a veteran Philippa Boyans shout outs to Philippa Bollyans. Yep, yeah,
I don't think we're gonna be seeing any more animated things.
I still haven't seen war there or hear them. I
don't know if I'm gonna get Should I get around
to it? Should I bump that up the DOCA?
Speaker 2: Definitely? Yeah. I mean it's not high priority because it's
like not relevant and no one talks about or cares
about it. But it was good and to me, that's
like a million times more interesting time and place instead
of characters than either of these new movies that we
have coming out. So even if you know that, even
though even though it's already out and you know the
quality isn't like exceptional, it still is like far more
intriguing to me than like Hunter Dallam or does this
does about a name name or it does have a
name Shadows of the past. It was far more interesting
lower wise, I would say, than either of these two
things that they're pushing out here.
Speaker 1: See my, my, that's fair. I'll keep that in mind. Then,
my prediction for Lord of the Rings four was the
return of Saramon, but that was before I saw the
extended editions and saw that he just fucking eats shit
right in that movie, so he ain't coming back at all.
But uh, yeah, I don't know if I have anything
else to add on this, do you?
Speaker 2: Hmmm, no, we can move along.
Speaker 1: We can move along.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Well, Uh, our next topic, this is a pretty juicy one. Uh, Dylan,
do you want to lead us in into this because
this is this is entering. Sure, send you some juicy
my territory, yes.
Speaker 2: My airspace. Yeah, so, uh dropped today? Maybe it was
yesterday again. Memory for the week bad is what I'm learning.
It's near the end of week. Okay, these things happened.
Uh there was a poster from Mario and who was
on it? Freaking Star Fucks Fox MFN McLeod was on there. Uh,
in all his glory, which is crazy. That's that's crazy
because we're That means we're just dipping directly into some
other Nintendo stuff, which remind me if anything in Mario Won,
Like there was obviously references galore, but was there anything
there was like a kiddock, there was like video games
in the real world, right, there was like a kidder
grig like cartridge. I think there's an F zero poster
or something right like that. So I guess we have
already dipped into some of that stuff. I forgot about
some of that stuff and I just remember it right now.
We didn't get any characters, right, like, any characters that
move around or did anything in the movie. Is that
correct that we're not Mario characters?
Speaker 1: That's correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So yeah, we got this star Fux poster, So
presumably he's actually gonna be a character in here that
has a section. I assume just like one scene, one sequence.
That would be my guess. But then also Rob, I
don't think Rob's on a poster, but they just announced
that Rob is here or is he in a poster
or something that I didn't see?
Speaker 1: Oh man, how was that announced? I saw that prior
to I think it was either way. He's confirmed, He's confirmed,
He's confirmed, yeah, he I.
Speaker 2: Guess I don't know what Rob's pronouns are they it's
not exactly sure what Rob goes by there. And then
also some pickman. So Travis and I talked about this
one on side quest because he brought he brought this
up that there was some Pickman hanging out in like
a couple of shots here, and I don't think we
saw actual Pickman moving around. I think it was like
there was like a statue of a Pickman. Maybe there
was something else. So I'm not exactly sure what the
deal is there. But again, there's three new h three
new ip jumping in and it seems like they're actually
maybe gonna be characters or something. Taylor, I want to
share my screen and show you a scene from a
video game known as Super Smash Brother's Brawl for the
Nintendo Wii. Okay, and this is this is in the
Subspace Emissary, the story mode, when you get introduced to
al Omar and Rob at the same time Alamar from Pickman.
So I just thought it was interesting that these characters
get announced and back in Subspace Emissary, you have a
scene where Rob the robot is like turned off and
he's just hanging out there and a whole heck load
of Pickman are on Rob and they're just like smacking them,
and Rob does a little spinny attack and kills like
hundreds of Pickmen, and then Alimar is like freaked out
out of his mind. Obviously Olimar is a very small
creature relative to a regular human scale, and who comes
to save the day Captain Falcon, and he Falcon punches
Rob right in the head, saves the day, saves all Omar.
So I thought it was interesting that some of these
new characters were getting Rob. Maybe we're getting more Pickman,
maybe Aldamar if you have Pickman in there too, are
together in a scene in subspace, which does take place
in space, I believe, and Captain Falcon comes to save
the day. So this is a bit of a stretch,
but I would love if somehow this is something they
were referencing, and Captain Falcon also squeaks into this movie.
But either way, funny that those characters are introduced for
no particular reason in the Subspace together and here they
are in Mario Galaxy movie together, so kind of fun.
Speaker 1: That's a good catch.
Speaker 2: Good catch.
Speaker 1: I got curious when you said with the kid Chris
and the other kind of like Easter Eggs and the
tie ins here. Yeah, so yes, kid Chris Mario's hump
playing that ness game in his bedroom.
Speaker 2: There's a game in Watch reference.
Speaker 1: There's a construction sign on a basically featuring the silhouette
of mister Game and watch. Okay, apparently there is a
model of an R wing from Star Fox.
Speaker 2: Right, I do remember that. Okay, so we actually did
get a bit of Star Fox stuff already in.
Speaker 1: The firste Yes, and you're right about the Blue Falcon
from S Zero.
Speaker 2: There's there's a reference there, Okay that boom, we might
be onto something here. It might I mean if we
go to space, right, that's like a big thing. Is
like Fox is presumably up there. Captain Falcon's an intergalactic
like Bounty Hunters. So is Samus of course. So that's right. Yeah,
Like I think back when we were talking about what
would like a Smash Bros. Movie look like or how
would you interact, It's like, oh, there's absolutely like you
just go to space and all these characters are up
there and can easily interact with each other. And obviously
in the second mart we were already going to space.
So it's cool that we're already getting Like I just
I just thought we were farther out from getting things
like an actual start actually getting Fox from Cloud in there.
So very exciting stuff.
Speaker 1: I must say, And I mean Star Fox's character that
I just don't think you you can't just give him
his own movie, you know. I feel like he's a
Hawkeye in the MCU. He's got to appear next to
someone else. And then maybe down the road you give
him his own project years and years down the line.
But for now, I think, when's the last Star Fox
came we got?
Speaker 2: Wasn't that on the WIU? It was on the week.
There was one in the three DS as well, but
I think the WU one came up more recently than that.
Speaker 1: And I mean other than that, I don't even think
that that game sold necessarily well, So I don't know
if people are really very familiar with Star Fox anymore.
Speaker 2: I mean the next Gary Kids. Yeah, they named it
after how many copies it sold, which was zero.
Speaker 1: That's a burn.
Speaker 2: God damn s pub says Captain Falcon in the Nick
Fury role to announce the Smash Bros. Initiative in a
post credit scene. Do do you think do you like
Captain Falcon as the Nick Fury? You can get everyone
together to be He's like, I don't know if he's
that guy, but I if that was what they did,
I would absolutely love it.
Speaker 1: I'd be down for that. I could see something like
that loading everyone up in his blue falcon. Yeah, yeah, no,
I I think, uh, like I was saying, putting Fox
in here, it's just everyone's talking smash By this movie
and Tendo verse everything like that. And it's obviously that
just that the reinforces that foundation, especially because we're getting
a huge roster now with all the new Mario characters
that they're adding in here. Uh. And I'm someone that
really wanted Mario Sunshine represented, and I think we'll get
that represented at some point in here. We don't need
a whole movie now because yeah, we see what.
Speaker 2: They'll get a sequence in one of these movies. But yeah,
we definitely skipped past a lot of early stuff to
go right to Galaxy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is starting to feel like the Lego
movie kind of where you just you got all the
different realms kind of.
Speaker 2: It is definitely like, yeah, it's like it's like Yoshi's
Island and Galaxy kind of combined into one for sure.
Speaker 1: M h, which I'm totally okay with. I'm let's do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, Bowser Junior also is like was introduced in Sunshine, right,
so you also get a little bit of sun Shine
in there already, you do.
Speaker 1: They have the isms. That's that's totally true, and I'm
very happy with that because now we we're not just
sticking with Galaxy and bringing Rosalina and keeping it limited
to that. It's like, okay, no, we are clearly putting
our foundations down for a larger Nintendo verse and like,
let's run with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I think that was, you know, maybe
a little bit of disappointed when we got the confirmation
that the second one was Galaxy, was like, oh, yeah,
we are gonna skipping past some of these earlier Maria things.
But if they're like Soghamhoda, immediately jump into the other
Nintendo franchises and do that crossover stuff and there, and
like there is an endless trove of stuff to do there,
Like we obviously we just talk about few ip here,
but there's so many other big ones that have not
even been addressed yet, and they're they they'll never run
out of ideas, Like there's so much Nintendo ip they
could get into. So I I guess knowing that now,
I guess in hindsight, it's like, yeah, I'm happy they're
going all out with Galaxy, because yeah, they're like they're
not gonna run out of Mario stuff to do, because
they're gonna just jump in there already jumping into just
greater Nintendo stuff, and that is again just completely endless.
So that's gonna be that's gonna be really fun. Taylor,
can I can I tell you a secret that you
have to keep the top secret. I can keep it
top secret. Yeah, coming up until this week. You know,
Mario movie comes out next week. Tickets are on sale.
I was like, I might skip this, Like I'll watch
it when it hits streaming. I'm a big Mario guy,
but like, I don't know, you know, I'm very selective
when I go to the theaters these days because tickets
are expensive. Gas is expensive. It just cost a lot
of money money to go to the movies. And it's like, I,
you know, I'm on a podcast, so I get paid
to be here. But it's like, you know, the balance
of it is like, Okay, I really really really gotta
want to see a movie to justify it. And I
just wasn't vibing with these trailers, and I was like,
you know what, why much as let these guys take
this one, I'm gonna sit out of this review. And
then they fucking drop star fucks in a poster and
I bought my ticket, so I'm an easy mark. Okay,
So I don't know how many people are in my boat.
And you know what, I fully admit right now, it's
probably He's probably gonna be one scene. It's probably not
even gonna be great. It's probably just gonna be fine.
But I'm just such a nerd for the Smash pro stuff.
Smash Bros. Is my favorite video game series franchise of
all time. And so now that we're not now that's
not just the Mario movie, but it also is becoming
the Smash movie. That's just that's I just couldn't. I
couldn't pass it up. So I bought my ticket and
I'm I have a seat now, so I'll be there video. Yeah,
seat that you're not about to tell anyone, I said,
I won't tell anyone, not like we're on a live podcast.
Speaker 1: No one else knows. I think that you just explained
a marketing play by Nintendo.
Speaker 2: And you know, a lot of a lot.
Speaker 1: Of people are saying, why would they spoil it?
Speaker 2: Save that for the movie.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you there's gonna be a lot more surprises
in this movie. That's gonna catch up guard and the
fact that they shared this star Fucks thing. It was
smart and it was well timed because if you look
at Nintendo's fiscal year and when that ends, it ends
March thirty first, and they want to make sure that, hey,
we look at all the dollars that you've earned, and
that report goes out I think and like in May
or something like that to all the investors.
Speaker 2: Starfucks zero just sold three extra copies.
Speaker 1: And that's right, well putting like they put your they
put they got your money, and they put you in
a seat in that theater. And how many other tickets
sold today when with the announcement of Star Fox I'm
sure I lot did I want.
Speaker 2: I really would love to know that number of how
many people got pushed over the edge with that particular drop,
and yeah, like, who do you think? Do you think
we get a Falco, we get a Peppy, we get
a slippy? Do you do we get any of the
crew or is it just Fox? We do see the
Actually I should look at the poster again. Do we
see just his individual R wing or do we also
see like the I think it's just called the star Fox,
like their big ship right. I think it is just
called the star Fox.
Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, the image. Oh, i'd like to say that
you see all of them, I think they'll go hard
and I think you'll get You'll get everyone.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see Slippy and I throw a wolf.
Speaker 2: In there too. I'd love to see wolf in there. Oh,
you think that throw the villain in It's it's hard
to tell if this wasn't. If this isn't, I think
it's an R wing, so it's not the full ship.
I think, who's this monkey next to him? I feel
like I should know that the monkey. Do you need
me to share screen?
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if I'm looking at the same thing that
you are. I mean, there's Andros looks kind of.
Speaker 2: Monkey like this.
Speaker 1: That monkey, Oh, he looks like just one of the
random Mario monkeys?
Speaker 2: Is that true? Yukiki is his name Ukii from what
I think he.
Speaker 1: Is from Super Mario sixty four DS.
Speaker 2: The DS one, specifically.
Speaker 1: Ukiki's are monkeys that can be found in Tall Tall Mountain.
Yukiki will steal your monkeys.
Speaker 2: They don't look like that in the riginal sixty four,
but maybe they do look like that in sixty four ds,
I guess, I don't know. Interesting why why why is
he hanging out with Fox? Or is he scared of Fox?
They look like a bit of a duo. That's a
good question. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Have have you seen the side note some of Wolfe's
like compatriots, like his evil buddies. Yeah, I don't think
I have, okay, because.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a Star Fox guy. I'm a Smash guy,
of course, but I've I've just never really played the
Smash or the the Star Fox games a whole lot.
I really play Salt, which I know is a big
or sorry, Adventures everyone want to play Adventures, which I
know is a favorite for Travis, which we talked about.
Speaker 1: The Adventures is definitely the is the big one. That
was the one my cousin like just loved, absolutely loved adventures.
I grew up playing Assault and Assault. I found that
you get a little bit more interaction with Wolf and uh,
his buddies.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna show wolves buddies. How do you find this?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna populate here so you can you can see here.
Speaker 2: Leon, Oh, panther, Wow, Leon Panther.
Speaker 1: And then what's this? Andrew Oinkney.
Speaker 2: Like trophies and like stickers and like smash and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Leon Palski, he's just so sly the get go
god damn.
Speaker 2: He's super super cool. Panther Smash Pros Games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a spin off games Starlink. All right, Starlink
did the Star Fucks crossover. That's right, and Starlink is
dead content now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's check you out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Panther Carrosso.
Speaker 2: Look at the Rose.
Speaker 1: This guy's sly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. These guys are definitely in h like Smash Ultimate.
What's it called, like spirit mode or whatever? H? Who's
the who's the lizard guy? I just there's a different
angle of him that looked interesting.
Speaker 1: Panther became infatuated with the Lovely Crystal tried to flirt
with her, often to no avail, as she was already
in a relationship on Fox. McLeod, we're canceling, Panther castling.
Uh this Star Fox assault, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Condamn Holy ship? Okay, sorry, pull that up one more time.
Do you still have that open? I got it open,
I got it open. Pull up the full picture of
Andrew Aikin please, and what are the first name? Andrew?
Wrong one? I also kind of want to see Pigma
Danger full screen, Like, look at that character design that
is demented. Portions are so weird. That's like a nightmare
fuel stuff right there? Can you pull up the image
of the Oinkney guy, the pig guy. I thought the
pig would be called Oinkney because oink but.
Speaker 1: You think so? Uh, just a little bio here. Despite
being a highly inexperienced pilot he was part of originally
part of the Star Wolf team.
Speaker 2: He does seem like he would be the dupist of
the crew. Oh yeah, like he's always the one slipping
on banana peels and like pitting the wrong buttons on
the ship.
Speaker 1: He formed his rivalry with Slippy Toad.
Speaker 2: But this guy you would not cancel. He's just dumb.
He's not problematic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pig Danger is his name? Dan gar After, isn't
the name of a Star Wars star Wars Bound, there's pig.
Speaker 2: This guy's got some warrior proportions. He sure does, my goodness,
the ideal human forms.
Speaker 1: Remember he used to be a part of Star Fucks
and he betrayed his teammates. Everyone was I guess James McLeod,
who's James mc cloud.
Speaker 2: That's Star Fox's dad, but he looks the same. He
just has ray bands on. That's the only difference between
James and then Fox.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: That's kind of crazy. Your name is James McLeod, you
have a child, you are a Fox, and you name
your son.
Speaker 1: Fox Fox McLeod.
Speaker 2: And then that's what that's what this guy did in
his life.
Speaker 1: Possible son Marcus Marcus mccleott, Marcus like a whole nother
crew with another slippy and like some other Marcus what
oh so, son of Fox and Crystal. He's only ever
been seen or mentioned in Star Fox's command.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. And what was Star Fox's mom's name?
Speaker 1: It said right there, Yes, Vixy Reinard.
Speaker 2: Only ever see her in a picture frame.
Speaker 1: That's that's straight there, Old Fox McLeod.
Speaker 2: Up, she never even gets on screen, which you die
in childbirth or something like that. Oh my god, my god.
Wait wait wait she was married to Fox McLeod's senior,
also known as James McCleod. Oh what so now he's
also known as wait what's his name? Is it James
or is it Fox McLeod senior? Because James just just
never give up. Trust your instincts.
Speaker 1: She was described as being very beautiful and caring and
attracted to the attentions of Andros he can infatuated with her.
Speaker 2: Fortunately, she was attracted to the attentions of Androws. Yes,
that's a weird way to put attracted to the attentions
of Andrew and they were just alliterating for the sake
of alliterating. There they are.
Speaker 1: Andrews never believed that Fox Senior deserved her. Andrews planning
to get rid of his rival by installing a spare
bomb in Fox Senior's car.
Speaker 2: He couldn't even bother making his own bespoke bomb. He's like,
I got this spare sitting around. Oh my god, oh god.
We you know. You know what I've learned from this conversation, Taylor,
is that we need a freaking Star Fox movie because
there's lore. There's lore to unearth here. There's juice that
needs to be squeezed or fruit that needs to be
squeezed into juice. I agree. Oh, I definitely want the
Andrew Aikeney like flashback of how he got that name
and all that. So what do you think they're gonna
do for Starbucks with the what kind of performance, because
I think it's sometimes he's been kind of a dork,
like I think in Smash Ultimate, Star Fox is very
like he's very dorky, I feel like in his voice,
but I feel like it's sometimes he's like got kind
of a deeper, more more intense voice at times. So
what which version do you think we're getting? Do you
think we're getting dork or cool guy?
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's look at this this poster again here.
Speaker 2: Because honestly, the poster could go either way.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna lie. He looks pretty fucking
cool in this poster, but he also kind of looks
like dork though, you think, but you can see like
the Great is the Great Fox behind him in the poster,
that's just.
Speaker 2: An R wing. I think, Oh it's just an R wing. Ah.
It does look big though, So it could be the
Start could be the Star Fox. I don't know. I
don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm really feeling like he's gonna be the real deal.
He's gonna show up. And you know, in Lego movie,
you got Batman who you think is kind of like
just in over his head, but he shows up and
he's just actually like the Bee's knees and boss, but
he's kind of just like out to lunch a little bit?
Is that what you were thinking of? When if you're
gonna get kind of both of them, you get him
like doofye and he's he's the cool guy?
Speaker 2: Would you say out to lunch tone? I just feel
like with the tone of what these movies are, everyone's
kind of a dufis for the most part, except for
like Peach, who's just like cool and smart. But everyone
else is kind of a dufist, right, yeah, Like even Bowser,
like our main villain is quite a dupe. Bowser Junior
is not looking like a dufist though in the trailer. No, No,
he's looking like he's for blood, yes.
Speaker 1: And I mean they could obviously turn that around, but yeah,
he's looking like he's here for the real deal.
Speaker 2: So I think I think Star Fucks is gonna be
more dufous, I think. But I think if they go
for like a serious version, I feel like they should
cast like Keanu Reeves or something.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, do we we don't know who's voicing.
Speaker 2: Him, do we? No?
Speaker 1: I assume he speaks, though, I would think so yeah, hmmm.
Speaker 2: Who would be a good dufis, because it can't be
like too overly duficy. I want like a maybe like
an Andrew Garfield. Andrew Garfield who's not always duficy, like
I would not even describe him as deficy, but I
want to see him do deficy in this situation. M
h yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like that pick, but I think there's definitely some
room there.
Speaker 2: But who would I picked personally? I'll go to Molly. Yeah, yeah,
I guess if I okay, if I have to go dufist,
I'll go Garfield. And if I got to go serious, serious,
more serious Fox, I'll go with Coleman do.
Speaker 1: Mingo, Colman Domingo. I like it. Here's a good point.
Spob's count already voicing Shadow in the Sonic series. Gotta
save the voice for Mario and Sonic.
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, so I'll pivot over to Coleman.
Shit Mario, I could see that.
Speaker 1: Uh No, I think that's that's pretty sweet.
Speaker 2: That's pretty sweet. I don't really have anyone that, off
the top of my head I can think of, though.
I was thinking about it on my drive home today,
which is not a short drive, and I was going
through names and I obviously couldn't like Google because I
was driving, but I honestly not the shoe never quite fit,
I will say, so, I don't know what they're gonna
do here.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 2: Maybe a Christian Bale. I mean he could just be
like making sounds and not like talking, and in which
case they could just cast whoever, Christian Bale, did you
say anything? Yeah, Christian Bale? That's wild? What does starfucks?
What does he sound like here? And mainly he's like yeah,
all right in ultimately he's like hands off, my prey.
He's more like that. He's more a little nasily. I think.
Speaker 1: I don't think if I share videos, you guys can
hear the sound.
Speaker 2: I don't think which version of the Fox though? Is this?
Speaker 1: Well maybe you can hear the sound? So this is
this is the Super Nintendo version?
Speaker 2: Oops? No, not sure he heard the share But could
you hear that? Yeah? I can?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: Are we gonna get that's why you went to the
Super Nintendo version.
Speaker 1: It's just it's what popped up there.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: Here's Falco.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Falco's more deeper, he's cooler, he's a bit sexier. Right, Well,
here we go Starbucks Adventure.
Speaker 1: What the fuck, let me play that again. Okay, here's
star Fuck's Adventure. Who I didn't this?
Speaker 2: Fine? Oh go get it flame stay decoy. So he
had he had like four actual voice lines, but then
most of it was just four boys and grunts and
lifting boulders and lots of strenuous but noises. Again, very
defy right dorky dufuss. He's kind of I feel like,
is this an origin story of this game? I don't know,
but he definitely is very dufess dorky in this one.
Even the appearance like he looks, he does not look
nearly as cool in this game.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm curious about something here. Let maybe we can
discern something from his outfit Star Fucks poster.
Speaker 2: The outfit's a bit different Star Fucks Adventures, so his
outfit and adventures. He doesn't have the eyepiece. The vest
is a bit different, that's right. The belt is a
little bit different as well. Hmmm, does he have the shine?
He doesn't have the shine. That's a bummer. I hope
he has that. In the movie, he has a gun.
He has the gun on his right leg. I just
noticed that. Oh yeah, he's got really thick eyebrows and
He has a faux hawk as well in the poster trailer,
like like the little white stripe is turned into a
faux hawk rather than just being a white stripe.
Speaker 1: His white stripe looks Okay.
Speaker 2: He looks like devious in the Mario poster. I'm not
gonna lie. He might be an anti hero.
Speaker 1: Anti hero or do you think there's a chance.
Speaker 2: And there might just be like a mcguffin, and Fox
also wants the thing he wants, the Cube of Despair
or whatever the fuck the item is in the movie.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what if this What if this
was James McLeod, Star Fox Senior.
Speaker 2: Didn't they say in their tweet like star Fox is confirmed? Yeah,
I mean I guess, Wait, well what do they say?
Did they say Fox McLeod or did they say star
Fox because those are different things. Let's see the tweet
says Fox McLeod. But again, we just learned apparently that
James is Fox McLeod senior, So it's true. It could
be his dad, it could be Pops, but the iconic
part of Pops is the the the ray bands, the shades,
and he doesn't have those, so I'm gonna say it's
the Sun. Yeah, the Fox we know is Fox McLoud.
Speaker 1: So the closest version that he looks like, i'd say
is like Star Fucks zero because he's got the green
piece in there.
Speaker 2: He is definitely more modern Bok, which I feel like
was adopted into the Smash Ultimate and Smash for Okay hmmm,
so yeah, they definitely went with the more because he
was definitely he had a lot of detail back in
the day, like he just had like a vest and
the green pants and that was kind of it. He
was less bulky. He's a bit bulkier now, like the jacket,
like it's filled out a bit more. It's more detail,
has the eyepiece on. He didn't always have the eyepiece,
the green eye piece. I guess he does have the
faux hawk now I'm looking at some of these images
from Starfaux's Zero, but I've never really noticed that in Smash.
I've never really noticed that he has a faux hawk
going on.
Speaker 1: No, I never really noticed that either.
Speaker 2: That is kind of interesting. M I will say I'm
more partial, and obviously I'm a huge Melee biased, but
I'm more partial to that that design for Fox. I
really like the Melee design for Fox and Falco. I
don't like the bulkier look that they have in the
later games, and uh, I guess which came from zero.
It seems like mm hmm, like the more slender you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah style.
Speaker 2: I suppose.
Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna be pretty uh pretty cool to see what.
Speaker 2: The final prediction, Taylor, Do we see Falco? Because I
think if we're gonna see anyone else in the crew,
it would be Falco. Do you think we get a
Falco or is it just Fox McLeod from the from
that crew?
Speaker 1: Hmm, I think you see a Falco. I think you
see at least one more character from Star Fox.
Speaker 2: I think that's I think it could be. Could be
like the way in the first movie how we got
a bunch of Donkey Kong characters but they were just
like in the stadium and they didn't do anything. I
feel like you might get that, like maybe Fox at
one point looks up and we see in the window
of the ship. We see like the crew in there.
But I don't think they'll have any spoken lines. I
think I think at best they're in ships, but you'll
actually see Fox Fox will you know, be out of
the ship and doing stuff as we see in the poster.
I think the other people if you see them, they're
just in the ship, just through like a window. You
get a quick glimpse of them, and it's like a
tease for the future or something like that. Mm hmmmm hmmm.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that.
Speaker 2: Do you think we get to a barrel roll in
this that is the iconic line do a barrel roll? Yeah?
I think that this is the kind of movie that
does that kind of thing. I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1: I could see Fox being the one to look at
Mario and be like, do a barrel roll?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, imagine if we just get some crazy space
battle with like Samus shows up, Captain Falcon shows up,
that's where Star Fox is. That would be so cool.
That would be pretty sweet. Yeah, really sweet.
Speaker 1: Gosh, well, I don't know if I have anything else
to add to that. Do you have anything else? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I guess we didn't really talk too much about Rob
and the Pickman specifically. The Pickman makes sense to me,
uh now that that's like officially confirmed because they did
that that little short animated film thing recently they just
dropped on YouTube, So it seems like they like the
world of Pickman for whatever reason. I don't think they'll like,
I don't know if we'll see all themar I think
we might just get Pickman and that there's like almost
like a little easter egg, you know, Rob. I really
I wonder what Rob's gonna be doing in this Like
do they just want an R two D two in
the in this realm? Is he just the R two
D two pretty much does a couple beats and bloops.
He's cute, you know, he pushed some merch I get.
I mean he was merch. He wasn't even from a
game originally, right, He was literally like a a desk
top toy was like the origin of that character. So
I could see them. I could see, Yeah, I could
see him having a small little thing in there. He's
like operating helps him operate a ship in space, Like
maybe he's like en Roselyne his ship like and he
does the controls or something like that. And he's just
R two. He just sticks as a little sticker in
the in the thing and controls the ship, you know,
And I'd.
Speaker 1: Be down for that. I really have no idea where
I would place him.
Speaker 2: That's that's a tricky on. Rob was in one Mario
Kart game back on the DS. Fun fact, really weird though, right,
just in one Mario Kart game Never Again. I mean
he actually I think one of the carts in Deluxe
or is it in Mario Kart World is like a
in it his world. Isn't it where they had like
the Rob bike or something? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, it is, it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, Rob's been top of mind for Nintendo
again recently, and he's you know, he was added in Brawl,
which was in two thousand and seven or whatever, and
he's still smashed all the days, never been cut. So
Nintendo really likes Rob and they want us to like
Rob as well. Yeah they do.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's fitting and it's pretty sweet.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: They just kind of manifest not manifest it, created their
own character and they're kind of giving life to it
and putting them into a big movie and then the
games and whatnot. I think that's fun. He's an origin
into no character now.
Speaker 2: And I would be thrilled if he got punched by
Captain Falcon in this movie. I'll tell you. That's that's
my last point.
Speaker 1: Make it could happen. I think it was a high chance. Cool, well,
anything else, So you wanna throw out there?
Speaker 2: Well, actually one more question. Sorry, this is clearly my
favorite topic of the night because I don't do it.
In the Mario First Mary movie, it's Mario's bedroom that
has the R wing and stuff in it.
Speaker 1: That's what I read.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so now I'm trying to think it, okay, because
I haven't rewatched this movie in the real world. Before
Mario goes into the king Mushroom Kingdom, does he know
about the Mushroom Kingdom? Like? Has he played that video game? Like?
Does he know about this place? Or is that his
first time experiencing that world?
Speaker 1: I think it's his first time experiencing it.
Speaker 2: Okay, But now he's gonna be interacting with Fox, who
he knows about from presumably a video game he played.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a truth.
Speaker 2: Are we going to get a note about that? It's like, Oh,
I have a toy of you, and he's like, what,
I'm no toy having Fox? McLeod. Are we going to
get something like that?
Speaker 1: I would like to get something like that. I think
it would be kind of fun. That would be an
interesting little narrative to unfold. But uh, yeah, I don't
know how how that conversation plays out what Mario would say.
Speaker 2: Because that I feel like that tells us a lot
about what's going on in the universe, in this world, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, I mean maybe, I mean if he does
already know about Fox McLoud, maybe Fox McLoud is a
pre existing hero in his in this universe or something
like that, so they have action figures based off of them.
Speaker 2: Right, could be, but cool?
Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna jump to our last ad
break and then mosey on to our last topic and
then the what we've been watching, so we will be
right back and we are back. So latest and greatest
news here with the the Disney front Disney Pixar, I
should say his two new movie announced or sorry, three
new movie announcements. We have Monsters Inc. Three. There's no
date available yet on this, but they confer Monsters Inc.
Three it will be commencing work. We have Incredibles Three
for twenty twenty eight, and we have a Coco two
in sequel.
Speaker 2: Coming out in twenty twenty nine. So wish one of
these are you most excited for? Dylan? Yeah? Well, as
a young lad, Monsters Inc. And Incredibles were my favorite
Pixar thing. I'd watch them over and over again. They were.
They were my favorite, my top two going back and
forth there and Incredibles two. We all know who that one.
I am not a fan of that film. Monsters University.
I didn't really care much for that one, and I
think that one. I think more people agree that Incredibles
two is not good. Monsters University is more of a
hot take. Perhaps. I also, I think I started the
show on Disney Plus, but I don't think I finished it,
so I don't even really remember memory of that. So
really it's I don't know. I just don't I don't
think that where I'm at in my life now. Obviously
I love these movies as a kid. I've watched them
somewhat as I've gotten older, but the nostalgia can't quite
carry this to be something that I'm gonna love necessarily.
And it's so funny to see Disney flip flop back
and forth between oh, we're only gonna make like original
movies now and oh, actually, we're just gonna only make
sequels now, and it seems like they just keep doing
this flip flop based on what sells. And Inside Out
Too sold tickets extremely high amounts, so now we're getting
all these all these sequels out of here. I will
say Incredibles three would be my most excited one of
the bunch. I should rewatch Incredibles two. Maybe now that
years have passed and I'm further away from it, maybe
I will find some stuff to enjoy in it. I
don't know what the premise of this third one is
gonna be, but I I think I'm hopeful that this
could turn around and actually be a movie that I
quite enjoy. I think at the very least, I'll probably
like it more than Incredibles two, and maybe it'll make
it for a nice little round trilogy there. So yeah,
I'm excited to see what that is. I hope there's
a bit of a time jump for the characters and
we can do some fun stuff there. That would be
my hope. And Monsters Inc. Three, I guess even though
I'd love that movie, it's hard for me to picture
what I want from that series. At this point. I
don't think I want or need anything else, so that
one's harder for me to get excited about. Maybe when
I see the premise or something. But Incredibles is there's
definitely more room to do stuff that I'd be interested
in it, but I don't see the same world for Monsters, Inc.
For whatever reason. So I'd say that's where my excitement
is at. And Coco I've only seen one time. I
watch it on a plane, which is, you know, not
the most ideal time to watch a gorgeous movie that
would probably be better on the big screen. I did
really enjoy it, though, So yeah, that's another good one
to green light there. It's feel like it's taken a
few years on. That movie came out at least eight
years ago, right or more eight years ago. It's probably
approaching a decade. See when to Cocoa come out? Coco
release dates came out in twenty seventeen, so it will
be ten years old in a year, and by the
time the movie comes out, it'll be twelve years old. Jesus,
oh my gosh. Yeah, So that's where I'm at with these.
I'd say, yeah, I would actually say I'm excited, cautiously
excited for Incredibles Three, Monsters Inc. Eh, neutral, and also
neutral and Coco because I don't I don't know if
I need a sequel for it, but I'm sure it'll
be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right on, right on. I've not seen the first
Cocoah crazy, I'm that's crazy. I'm gonna have to work
out a time when I watched that. I'll do back
to back Ward or Hero and I'll do Coco. Now.
Monsters Inc. I've not seen in the Monsters University. Uh,
I don't even know what I've seen the second one.
I know I've seen the first one, but in the show. No,
I haven't really watched the show at all either. It's
it's not one that I've really grown up with Monsters Inc.
I was just always which is surprising. I was always
like bugs life and all the other stuff. But yeah,
like I think there's a place for I think Monsters Inc.
Has uh has that sustenance, has that juice. But for me, primarily,
I think Incredibles Three is where your your head cahunas
are gonna are gonna be located with because this is
a chance of redemption after that last one did not
really hit out of the park for a lot of people,
including I know, like you said, like yourself. But I
think if they were to do something really good here
that kind of as a callback to that first one,
but not a lot as I don't want to say lame,
but like the screen. There wasn't anything really like juicy there,
whereas that first one when you have Syndrome, that was
just it was a great origin story. You know. He
was a kid wanted to be like mister Incredible Psychic
and incredib boy, and he just got shafted and then
he just became this guy who was just relying on
technology and he was eliminating all the other stupers and
then creating these robots that were like super like learning
from them and what it is such a great story.
It's such a great story, and the humor in there
is on par I can't remember if it was Travis
that was talking to I'm pretty sure it was Travis
who was saying, like, it would be neat if they
were to like age up the characters in this a
little bit, which I could get behind that too. I
don't need it to be a direct continuation right after
the Incredibles too, like let's come back like, oh, it's
been five years, the kids are now aged a little
bit more, and just the dynamics of that would be
pretty cool, But then you run the risk of people
coming in be like, oh, I really wanted to see
more ventures of them as a family and them as
kids as opposed to well now they're all grown up.
I don't like seeing this. This is too too different.
So you got to find that happy medium, I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Yeah cool.
Speaker 1: I got nothing else to add, though, I mean, we
can transition over here.
Speaker 2: I mean until we get part a trailer for those movies,
which you know, they're all lost I think doesn't have
a date Credibles three twenty twenty eight, Coco two twenty
twenty nine, so it's gonna be a while before we
see anything about these. So yes, I think that's all
I gotta say for now. Yeah cool.
Speaker 1: All right, Well our last part of the episode here
is the what we've been watching, Dylan. I'm very curious
what has been gracing your screens as of late.
Speaker 2: Very little what has graced my screen? Of course, I
watch Daredel because I'm watching Survivor, which is crazy so
far and fun, crazy and fun. Interesting episode this week, and.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: My friend yeah, yeah, he smokes.
Speaker 1: Well, how many episodes of Survivor left?
Speaker 2: Oh gee, there's still seventeen players, I think, so we've
got a ways to go. That's a good amount.
Speaker 1: Okay, what did we watch I finished Punished for season two.
I watched Project Hill Mary again. I took my dad
to see it over the weekend. That movie is just great.
I think that's gonna be my Golden Geeks pick, just
to get you and Kirkland to watch it because it is.
Speaker 2: I'll watch it when it's streaming. It's so you don't
you don't have to use a pick.
Speaker 1: I don't. Okay, Okay, let's definitely gonna win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I holds out on you. I hope he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Hope he doesn't hold out on me. He's got it's
gonna win topic or he's.
Speaker 2: Got like eleven months. I'm sure he'll watch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely gonna win some categories in Golden Geeks
because there's a lot going going.
Speaker 2: For it in that movie. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so watch that for a second time. I
watched We Bury the Dead with Daisy Ridley. It's like
a zombie kind of flick.
Speaker 2: I don't know trailer for that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I was expecting it to be a
little bit more one way, but it was a different
way in terms of just dealing with grief and loss
and just it was very depressing and not as most
zombie films kind of are, but it was definitely a
new interesting take on the zombie narrative and what they
were kind of focusing and introducing in this movie. And
I applaud them for that. It's a very thorough and
well explored monster movie monster zombies, and so when you
can kind of come up with different ways of delivering
this scary kind of creature on screen, I like it.
Different types of backstories and origin stories. I'm always eating
that kind of stuff up, But I'm not going to
rush to rewatch the movie.
Speaker 2: What else did I watch lately?
Speaker 1: Let me just look at my letterbox just to be
sure I got everything. Oh Crazy Rich Asians. We watched
that every once in a while. That was a good time.
And I watched Pogonia.
Speaker 2: Oh how was the Begones? I've heard really good things
about Begones.
Speaker 1: You haven't seen it, that's correct, Oh okay, okay, But
I put it on and I was watching with Madison,
and it got to a point where Madison was feel
uncomfortable and so, okay, I just need to stop your gos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it uh, it.
Speaker 1: Had a lot of curve balls, and I was racing
to keep up. Just when I thought I figured out
like what the narrative was doing here and where we're going,
it's like, oh no, no, no, there's there's a curveball here,
and what I thought I know, I don't know, and.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah it has a I'm not going to
say anything.
Speaker 1: Beyond just that I was entertained and I would like
to rewatch it, just because now that I know how
the movie has progressed, I'd like to kind of look
at certain things as watch.
Speaker 2: The second time.
Speaker 1: But I won't say anything else beyond that because I
don't want to succor it for anyone that hasn't seen it.
But I do recommend it. It was definitely a wild movie.
Speaker 2: Good to know. Yeah, I'll definitely watch it at some
point here. I definitely had it on my my short
long list for Golden Gigks things. But then when no
one else had really I think Travis had seen it
at that point in time, so I was like, Okay,
I guess this isn't worth knocking off the list when
I have other prior, higher priority things.
Speaker 1: So yeah, hm, cool, all right, Well I think that
that does it. I think we have hit all the
heavy hitters here. The three big big ones for tonight's
Weekly Geek. So we will be back next week, either
newscast or it'll be a Weekly Geek, will be one
of the two, or maybe it'll be both, you know,
because there's lots of content that's coming out right now.
But I can guarantee you that there will be a
Daredevil review, that Punisher Specials coming around the corner here
soon too. And next week we've got the Mario review,
so we'll all be there to talk about Star Fox
and everyone else that's cameoing. Came Cameo Wing in the movie,
so check that out. Cameating Yeah, yeah. Until then, thank
you for tuning in everyone, and we'll see you in
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Speaker 2: Have a good one, good night,