Speaker 1: But yeah, my guests, like my guest that has scheduleed,
Speaker 1: she she no shoulders.
Speaker 2: So I'll try to see if I can get like, uh,
Speaker 2: what's I'll try to see if I get up there
Speaker 2: on her, hopefully before the broadcast ends. Yeah, so I
Speaker 2: don't know what that was about. Uh yeah, lions are dry.
Speaker 2: I mean nigga lions was dry. Ugh mm, I can't
Speaker 2: get a touch with my f co host, But the
Speaker 2: show must go on, as they say, speak of which, right,
Speaker 2: So yeah, we lacked next few hours. I'm saying, like
Speaker 2: hotline is nine one seven twitter three eight ninety five.
Speaker 1: Six, Speaking of which, what you call it?
Speaker 2: So I got a text a couple of days ago, right,
Speaker 2: and this person says she is a new wrestling fan
Speaker 2: watching with her boyfriend, and she just wanted me to
Speaker 2: go over some of the jargon with her. It's not
Speaker 2: a direct quote, it's just me, right my notes ex
Speaker 2: explain rustling terminology to her pretty much. Okay, Well, first
Speaker 2: things first, So wrestling so like no insider terms like
Speaker 2: you know, heal.
Speaker 1: And Mark and uh bas and jobber and all that stuff. Right,
Speaker 1: It's it's is exactly that insider terms, you.
Speaker 3: Know, like like the fans, the IWC, you know, and
Speaker 3: anybody else outside of you know, that's right outside, right,
Speaker 3: were were out on the periphery at the right least
Speaker 3: the periphery of the.
Speaker 1: Rest of the business. I mean, are not I supposed
Speaker 1: to know about these terms, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But because of the Internet and stuff, the internet and
Speaker 2: podcasters and you know, the notes here and all these
Speaker 2: other alleged journalists or whatever, right like, every every person
Speaker 2: with interconnection right here are these terms that have been
Speaker 2: use to death and and thinks no, there's you know,
Speaker 2: they're thinks they're smart, and they use themselves.
Speaker 1: So that's that.
Speaker 2: And a lot of a lot of stuff right like,
Speaker 2: like you know, going like no, a lot and a
Speaker 2: lot of people, a lot of people right like use
Speaker 2: these terms, misuse these terms like for example, right like,
Speaker 2: I'll keep you example right a jobber slash job guy, right,
Speaker 2: Being a jobber is not a bad thing. It's like
Speaker 2: in a play, right like, or a movie like when
Speaker 2: the lead actor is so and so right and supporting
Speaker 2: actors so and so right, or like you know, random.
Speaker 1: What's it called filler character? Right? That's not an insult.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying it's not no, because the reason why
Speaker 2: they call jobber right is cause it was their job
Speaker 2: to lose that match.
Speaker 1: Right, they did a job.
Speaker 2: If a job if somebody means you lost to them, right,
Speaker 2: it was your job to lose in this script of
Speaker 2: event right.
Speaker 1: Now, A there are two types of jobbers w A
Speaker 1: T like one.
Speaker 2: One type is the type that a that you'd put
Speaker 2: on your roster right, not necessarily like to be a
Speaker 2: top guy, but like give your roster of credibility and
Speaker 2: to like, you know, put other guys over.
Speaker 1: I could that traget to that term in in the moment,
Speaker 1: you know, to to.
Speaker 2: Know, make other people look good and to while giving
Speaker 2: you a roster w while giving your roster credibility.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like if you're trying.
Speaker 2: To build a new ADU star, right, you would know,
Speaker 2: put 'em against this person have a win to you know,
Speaker 2: increase their stock, increase them could the.
Speaker 1: Mover help get them mover? Right? You know it's it's
Speaker 1: two people wanna call it enhancement talent. You're a job guy.
Speaker 1: That's one type of job guy.
Speaker 2: The other type of job guy is someone who whose
Speaker 2: job it is to lose all the damn time, like
Speaker 2: someone like a a Brooklyn brawler, someone like a goddamn
Speaker 2: uh like a.
Speaker 1: Fall guy, you know, like uh a stooge, you know.
Speaker 2: Um trying to think James Elsworth, uh you know, uh yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, uh, you know Jamie Noble after he lost
Speaker 2: the after they got with the Who's the Right Championship?
Speaker 2: People like them, No comedy, they're typically comedy guys. They're
Speaker 2: typically heals.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So like you know, you're on Twitter, right and like
Speaker 2: you s you know, somebody says.
Speaker 1: Man Cooman Roads is an overrated jobber.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's that's like a job or is someone
Speaker 2: who constantly loses, right, not the top guy, not the
Speaker 2: champion of the biggest promotion in.
Speaker 1: The world, you know what I'm saying. So people misuse
Speaker 1: these terms all the time.
Speaker 2: But yeah, a jobber is someone who jobs, who loses
Speaker 2: as scripted in this in this scripted support that is wrestling, right,
Speaker 2: And to do a job is to like just lose
Speaker 2: on purpose, to lose on purpose who's doing the jobs?
Speaker 1: Now, you know what I'm saying. So this that term,
Speaker 1: those those terms so.
Speaker 2: Over right, when you're over with something or somebody's over
Speaker 2: that means they have that means they have.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, trying to try to proper words.
Speaker 2: Because it's it's this this, This term over is more contextual.
Speaker 2: I think that's like two or three meanings based on
Speaker 2: the context. So when something's over, one of the meanings
Speaker 2: of this term in this in this setting, this this
Speaker 2: vernacular is how am I sounding?
Speaker 3: My way?
Speaker 1: Am I?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: My check?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm coming nice and good? Alright, just make sure
Speaker 2: w' microphone closer. But yeah, what was I saying?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, uh? Over right?
Speaker 2: So there's three ways to look at it, right, It's perception, right,
Speaker 2: like are you over as a heel?
Speaker 1: Like? Are you perceived as a heel? Credibility? Right?
Speaker 2: Like you know it's this person over right, you know,
Speaker 2: like it's this you know, like will this move be
Speaker 2: to finish?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Like for example, right, Randy Warren's arka is over trip places,
Speaker 2: pedigree is over back in the day, nobody kicked the pedigree.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm saying, if you got pedigree on the
Speaker 2: floorid dout the injury angle? You know, trip places hammer
Speaker 2: you know Raynor is kicked those are over those? You
Speaker 2: know it would it would bury. I can have tournament,
Speaker 2: it would it would kill the move dead. If if
Speaker 2: Ray now his kick and somebody kicked out, that was
Speaker 2: just killed dead kills credibility, and I'm saying it wouldn't
Speaker 2: be over anymore, you know. And also yeah, so it's
Speaker 2: credibility and also like reaction, like he is not only
Speaker 2: getting like he's not only like getting a positive reaction
Speaker 2: like or or a very or very loud and vocal
Speaker 2: reaction like he's over with the crowd, baby face reaction right,
Speaker 2: Like he's being shared.
Speaker 1: He's over with the crowd, like the shared, the shared,
Speaker 1: the crowd shares him and stuff like that. But you
Speaker 1: supposed to be over as a heel, you know, the
Speaker 1: crowd bools you, the crowd like a heel.
Speaker 2: You're over as a heel. So it's perception and credibility
Speaker 2: and I guess effectiveness those three terms. So when you're over,
Speaker 2: you're you're effective, you have credibility, and you're perceived as such.
Speaker 1: One of the any one of these three meanings pertains
Speaker 1: to the term the term over what else? What else?
Speaker 1: What else? Uh?
Speaker 2: Okay it let me see. So what's somebody? So when
Speaker 2: somebody is buried, right, whether on purpose or accident again
Speaker 2: another term I guess misused to death. So buried, whether
Speaker 2: it's intentional or unintentional. Right, it's kind of like the
Speaker 2: opposite of being over kind of it's kind of like
Speaker 2: no when.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, I'm tryna think.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like when like you're made when uh,
Speaker 2: how do I say it's again, it's kind of con
Speaker 2: it's kind of contextual. So when you bury somebody, you
Speaker 2: kind of like you kind of like, you know, kill
Speaker 2: their credibility, right you kind of like yeah, and you
Speaker 2: kind of kill like they're I'm tryna think the words
Speaker 2: the words.
Speaker 1: Kill the credibility? What you bury them up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you make them, you make them like you
Speaker 2: you you kill them. It's like the reverse of being over,
Speaker 2: like you you killed them, you kill their credibility and
Speaker 2: you know you make them look you know, ineffectual and
Speaker 2: an and just yeah, ineffectual and weak. That I say,
Speaker 2: you know again, it depends on the context and the
Speaker 2: p I'm saying, like, but let me see, tryna think,
Speaker 2: tryna think.
Speaker 1: But for example, right I I I said earlier, So
Speaker 1: like let's say that let's say that uh.
Speaker 2: Trying the pile driver that Kevin Owens just doing right
Speaker 2: if if he hit that, right, if he hit let's
Speaker 2: say that like, no.
Speaker 1: He hit that.
Speaker 2: Let's say it was like no Cody roads against a heel,
Speaker 2: right and Kevin was ran in and hit Cody's coud
Speaker 2: it with that with the with the pile drivers using
Speaker 2: a lot lately right, and Cody kicked out right uh
Speaker 2: at like one right and went on to win the match.
Speaker 1: That would just bury the pile driver just killed dead.
Speaker 1: No cr like you know ber just bury it right.
Speaker 1: Another way that word could be used, right is let's
Speaker 1: say especially on purpose. Right.
Speaker 2: Let's say that you know, uh, a promoter, right, a
Speaker 2: booker no, no, no, or promoter the guy right, like
Speaker 2: he has his own promotion rust of promotion, right, and
Speaker 2: he's trying to get rid of a guy who doesn't
Speaker 2: like whatever, right, so like he'll g give 'em so
Speaker 2: like he'll give him his two weeks notice, right, and
Speaker 2: they have him get jobbed out and like squash matches, right,
Speaker 2: you're burying him, you know, make him make him look
Speaker 2: weak and effectual, you know, like a lot of people
Speaker 2: who misuseless from all the time.
Speaker 1: Oh, he buried him in his promo. No no, like
Speaker 1: that's no no, to bury somebody.
Speaker 2: It's like just to it's like just kill their credibility
Speaker 2: and like have pers like and having like perceive as
Speaker 2: like like ineffectual and weak and just like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's what being buried means, you know,
Speaker 1: So what else? What else?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: I think that I have to finish. But the finish
Speaker 1: is the end, like however the match ends, you know.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 2: That's why I like know there, That's why I know,
Speaker 2: like they're they're finish. Their moves are called finishers, right,
Speaker 2: not because it's you know, it finishes them like like
Speaker 2: like in like in uh Mortal Comic, finish him, No,
Speaker 2: because w wind los or draw that move will result
Speaker 2: in the ending of the match typically most times, you know.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, hope my answer, So, I hope, I hope
Speaker 1: I have apprised you properly. I appreciate you for texting me.
Speaker 2: Um.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But yeah, for those of you who wanna their
Speaker 1: questions around the air and answered, hotline is nine one.
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