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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, my guests, like my guest that has scheduleed,

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<v Speaker 1>she she no shoulders.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll try to see if I can get like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>what's I'll try to see if I get up there

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<v Speaker 2>on her, hopefully before the broadcast ends. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what that was about. Uh yeah, lions are dry.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean nigga lions was dry. Ugh mm, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>get a touch with my f co host, But the

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<v Speaker 2>show must go on, as they say, speak of which, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we lacked next few hours. I'm saying, like

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<v Speaker 2>hotline is nine one seven twitter three eight ninety five.

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<v Speaker 1>Six, Speaking of which, what you call it?

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<v Speaker 2>So I got a text a couple of days ago, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and this person says she is a new wrestling fan

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<v Speaker 2>watching with her boyfriend, and she just wanted me to

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<v Speaker 2>go over some of the jargon with her. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a direct quote, it's just me, right my notes ex

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<v Speaker 2>explain rustling terminology to her pretty much. Okay, Well, first

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<v Speaker 2>things first, So wrestling so like no insider terms like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, heal.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mark and uh bas and jobber and all that stuff. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's is exactly that insider terms, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, like like the fans, the IWC, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>anybody else outside of you know, that's right outside, right,

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<v Speaker 3>were were out on the periphery at the right least

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<v Speaker 3>the periphery of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Rest of the business. I mean, are not I supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to know about these terms, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But because of the Internet and stuff, the internet and

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<v Speaker 2>podcasters and you know, the notes here and all these

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<v Speaker 2>other alleged journalists or whatever, right like, every every person

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<v Speaker 2>with interconnection right here are these terms that have been

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<v Speaker 2>use to death and and thinks no, there's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're thinks they're smart, and they use themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of a lot of stuff right like,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, going like no, a lot and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people, a lot of people right like use

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<v Speaker 2>these terms, misuse these terms like for example, right like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll keep you example right a jobber slash job guy, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Being a jobber is not a bad thing. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>in a play, right like, or a movie like when

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<v Speaker 2>the lead actor is so and so right and supporting

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<v Speaker 2>actors so and so right, or like you know, random.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it called filler character? Right? That's not an insult.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying it's not no, because the reason why

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<v Speaker 2>they call jobber right is cause it was their job

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<v Speaker 2>to lose that match.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, they did a job.

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<v Speaker 2>If a job if somebody means you lost to them, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it was your job to lose in this script of

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<v Speaker 2>event right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, A there are two types of jobbers w A

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<v Speaker 1>T like one.

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<v Speaker 2>One type is the type that a that you'd put

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<v Speaker 2>on your roster right, not necessarily like to be a

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<v Speaker 2>top guy, but like give your roster of credibility and

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<v Speaker 2>to like, you know, put other guys over.

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<v Speaker 1>I could that traget to that term in in the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to to.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, make other people look good and to while giving

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<v Speaker 2>you a roster w while giving your roster credibility.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like if you're trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To build a new ADU star, right, you would know,

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<v Speaker 2>put 'em against this person have a win to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>increase their stock, increase them could the.

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<v Speaker 1>Mover help get them mover? Right? You know it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>two people wanna call it enhancement talent. You're a job guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one type of job guy.

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<v Speaker 2>The other type of job guy is someone who whose

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<v Speaker 2>job it is to lose all the damn time, like

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<v Speaker 2>someone like a a Brooklyn brawler, someone like a goddamn

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<v Speaker 2>uh like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Fall guy, you know, like uh a stooge, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Um trying to think James Elsworth, uh you know, uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, uh, you know Jamie Noble after he lost

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<v Speaker 2>the after they got with the Who's the Right Championship?

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<v Speaker 2>People like them, No comedy, they're typically comedy guys. They're

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<v Speaker 2>typically heals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So like you know, you're on Twitter, right and like

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<v Speaker 2>you s you know, somebody says.

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<v Speaker 1>Man Cooman Roads is an overrated jobber.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's that's like a job or is someone

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<v Speaker 2>who constantly loses, right, not the top guy, not the

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<v Speaker 2>champion of the biggest promotion in.

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<v Speaker 1>The world, you know what I'm saying. So people misuse

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<v Speaker 1>these terms all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, a jobber is someone who jobs, who loses

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<v Speaker 2>as scripted in this in this scripted support that is wrestling, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And to do a job is to like just lose

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<v Speaker 2>on purpose, to lose on purpose who's doing the jobs?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you know what I'm saying. So this that term,

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<v Speaker 1>those those terms so.

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<v Speaker 2>Over right, when you're over with something or somebody's over

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<v Speaker 2>that means they have that means they have.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think, trying to try to proper words.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's it's this this, This term over is more contextual.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's like two or three meanings based on

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<v Speaker 2>the context. So when something's over, one of the meanings

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<v Speaker 2>of this term in this in this setting, this this

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<v Speaker 2>vernacular is how am I sounding?

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<v Speaker 3>My way?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>My check?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm coming nice and good? Alright, just make sure

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<v Speaker 2>w' microphone closer. But yeah, what was I saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, uh? Over right?

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<v Speaker 2>So there's three ways to look at it, right, It's perception, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like are you over as a heel?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? Are you perceived as a heel? Credibility? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know it's this person over right, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's this you know, like will this move be

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<v Speaker 2>to finish?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Like for example, right, Randy Warren's arka is over trip places,

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<v Speaker 2>pedigree is over back in the day, nobody kicked the pedigree.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm saying, if you got pedigree on the

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<v Speaker 2>floorid dout the injury angle? You know, trip places hammer

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<v Speaker 2>you know Raynor is kicked those are over those? You

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<v Speaker 2>know it would it would bury. I can have tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>it would it would kill the move dead. If if

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<v Speaker 2>Ray now his kick and somebody kicked out, that was

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<v Speaker 2>just killed dead kills credibility, and I'm saying it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be over anymore, you know. And also yeah, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>credibility and also like reaction, like he is not only

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<v Speaker 2>getting like he's not only like getting a positive reaction

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<v Speaker 2>like or or a very or very loud and vocal

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<v Speaker 2>reaction like he's over with the crowd, baby face reaction right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's being shared.

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<v Speaker 1>He's over with the crowd, like the shared, the shared,

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd shares him and stuff like that. But you

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be over as a heel, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd bools you, the crowd like a heel.

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<v Speaker 2>You're over as a heel. So it's perception and credibility

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess effectiveness those three terms. So when you're over,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're effective, you have credibility, and you're perceived as such.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the any one of these three meanings pertains

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<v Speaker 1>to the term the term over what else? What else?

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<v Speaker 1>What else? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay it let me see. So what's somebody? So when

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<v Speaker 2>somebody is buried, right, whether on purpose or accident again

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<v Speaker 2>another term I guess misused to death. So buried, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's intentional or unintentional. Right, it's kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite of being over kind of it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>no when.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, I'm tryna think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like when like you're made when uh,

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<v Speaker 2>how do I say it's again, it's kind of con

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of contextual. So when you bury somebody, you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like you kind of like, you know, kill

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<v Speaker 2>their credibility, right you kind of like yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of kill like they're I'm tryna think the words

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<v Speaker 2>the words.

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<v Speaker 1>Kill the credibility? What you bury them up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you make them, you make them like you

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<v Speaker 2>you you kill them. It's like the reverse of being over,

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<v Speaker 2>like you you killed them, you kill their credibility and

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<v Speaker 2>you know you make them look you know, ineffectual and

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<v Speaker 2>an and just yeah, ineffectual and weak. That I say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know again, it depends on the context and the

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<v Speaker 2>p I'm saying, like, but let me see, tryna think,

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<v Speaker 2>tryna think.

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<v Speaker 1>But for example, right I I I said earlier, So

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<v Speaker 1>like let's say that let's say that uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying the pile driver that Kevin Owens just doing right

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<v Speaker 2>if if he hit that, right, if he hit let's

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<v Speaker 2>say that like, no.

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<v Speaker 1>He hit that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say it was like no Cody roads against a heel,

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<v Speaker 2>right and Kevin was ran in and hit Cody's coud

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<v Speaker 2>it with that with the with the pile drivers using

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<v Speaker 2>a lot lately right, and Cody kicked out right uh

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<v Speaker 2>at like one right and went on to win the match.

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<v Speaker 1>That would just bury the pile driver just killed dead.

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<v Speaker 1>No cr like you know ber just bury it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Another way that word could be used, right is let's

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<v Speaker 1>say especially on purpose. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say that you know, uh, a promoter, right, a

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<v Speaker 2>booker no, no, no, or promoter the guy right, like

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<v Speaker 2>he has his own promotion rust of promotion, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's trying to get rid of a guy who doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>like whatever, right, so like he'll g give 'em so

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<v Speaker 2>like he'll give him his two weeks notice, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have him get jobbed out and like squash matches, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you're burying him, you know, make him make him look

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<v Speaker 2>weak and effectual, you know, like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>who misuseless from all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he buried him in his promo. No no, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's no no, to bury somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like just to it's like just kill their credibility

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<v Speaker 2>and like have pers like and having like perceive as

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<v Speaker 2>like like ineffectual and weak and just like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know that's what being buried means, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So what else? What else?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I have to finish. But the finish

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<v Speaker 1>is the end, like however the match ends, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I like know there, That's why I know,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're they're finish. Their moves are called finishers, right,

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<v Speaker 2>not because it's you know, it finishes them like like

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<v Speaker 2>like in like in uh Mortal Comic, finish him, No,

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<v Speaker 2>because w wind los or draw that move will result

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<v Speaker 2>in the ending of the match typically most times, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, hope my answer, So, I hope, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>I have apprised you properly. I appreciate you for texting me.

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<v Speaker 2>Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But yeah, for those of you who wanna their

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<v Speaker 1>questions around the air and answered, hotline is nine one.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven, two, eight three eight nine five six. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take a little break and come back to y'all. Alright,

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<v Speaker 2>So stay tuned, stay tuned. You already know at Spirit

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<v Speaker 2>we lot for the next hour and a half. Alright, alright,

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<v Speaker 2>bet bet bet bet bet bet bet. Let me go

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<v Speaker 2>see what she got here.

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<v Speaker 1>Take the way. Uh uh