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Potential savings will vary, 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,079 not available in all states or situations. 10 00:00:33,439 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: Humans have been drinking cow's milk for centuries, so why 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,159 in the last one hundred and twenty five years have 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,240 we started to pasteurize it. Follow me down the rabbit 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:01:04,040 Hole about the dairy industry. Hello, friends, and welcome back 14 00:01:04,079 --> 00:01:05,959 to the rabbit Hole. I'm your host Danny, and today 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,159 we are talking about the dairy industry. Thank you Will, 16 00:01:08,239 --> 00:01:11,319 Carter and Katie for requesting this episode. I am also 17 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:15,040 very interested in this topic. We drink raw milk in 18 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,000 my house, but we will get more into that towards 19 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,079 the end of the episode. But of course, before we 20 00:01:20,079 --> 00:01:21,920 get started, I love to think our sponsors, so thank 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,159 you wise with Gold for sponsor my podcast. Guys, if 22 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:26,040 you want golden silver delivered straight to your front door 23 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:29,120 for fifty dollars a month. That's so cheap, go to 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,920 rabbit hole dot Gold right now. And supporting our sponsors 25 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,200 is one of the best ways to support this podcast, 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,280 so we really appreciate it. Let's get into the history. 27 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:40,000 So humans have been drinking cow's milk for more than 28 00:01:40,079 --> 00:01:44,439 ten thousand years. This started with the domestication of goats, sheep, 29 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,840 and cattle during the Neolithic or agricultural Revolution. It started 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,680 in the Fertile Crescent region, which is modern day like 31 00:01:51,719 --> 00:01:55,079 Middle East and parts of Europe and South Asia. Leading 32 00:01:55,159 --> 00:01:57,920 up to this, humans were still in the hunter gatherer 33 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,560 stage and only drink milk from their moms in infancy, 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,439 rarely drinking milk any other stage of life after infancy. 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,039 We have archaeological evidence of milk processing through residue analysis 36 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:13,960 of ceramics from Anatolia nine thousand years ago. So they 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,960 started domesticating large mammals about ten thousand years ago, and 38 00:02:17,199 --> 00:02:20,120 is assumed that that's when the milking started, but actual 39 00:02:20,159 --> 00:02:22,680 evidence goes back at least nine thousand years. In fact, 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,680 in Europe about eight thousand years ago, we find evidence 41 00:02:25,719 --> 00:02:30,280 of cheese processing. Ceramics in Libya point to milk processing 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,919 about seven thousand years ago, and in Kazakhstan fifty five 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,159 hundred years ago. Analysis of dental calculus revealed people were 44 00:02:37,199 --> 00:02:40,439 either drinking milk or some other lac tastes rich drink 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,240 five thousand years ago. Why we started drinking milk is 46 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,759 a whole different question in itself, because it seems weird 47 00:02:48,159 --> 00:02:51,439 that one day they just like woke up, looked at 48 00:02:51,439 --> 00:02:53,080 their cow and was like, I wonder what their milk 49 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,960 tastes like. Not I'm not saying that nobody did that. 50 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,800 I'm sure there was like one or two people out 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,520 there that was like, hmm, curious, but in general people 52 00:03:02,759 --> 00:03:05,319 probably didn't think that. There are a couple different theories 53 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,199 as to why they started drinking milk from animals. What 54 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:10,400 makes the most sense to me is that they were 55 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:14,520 having food shortages and needed substance to get by. There 56 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,000 may have been droughts, poor harvest, or just during the 57 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,800 winter season when they weren't actively growing food that they 58 00:03:20,879 --> 00:03:24,479 needed to supplement with something else and milk was readily available. 59 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:28,680 Milk literally could have meant the difference between life and death, 60 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,800 especially for children and the elderly. Another theory is just 61 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:35,840 the domestication theory. With the domestication of animals and humans 62 00:03:35,879 --> 00:03:38,840 settling in one place and farming, they could have begun 63 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:42,599 to experiment with animal products beyond what the meat could provide, 64 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:44,639 just to see what they could make, which makes sense 65 00:03:44,719 --> 00:03:47,560 because at the time they weren't necessarily drinking the milk 66 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:49,479 all the time. They were more consuming it in like 67 00:03:49,479 --> 00:03:51,840 a yogurt form or in a cheese form. They didn't 68 00:03:51,879 --> 00:03:55,199 start like just drinking cow's milk for thousands of years 69 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,680 after they started producing it. They would I guess that's 70 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:01,360 not true. They would drink it a little bit, but 71 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,240 that wasn't the main way they were using the milk. 72 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:07,000 The mainstream narrative is that they started drinking cow's milk 73 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,479 for reliable nutrition, which I'm not saying is wrong. Milk 74 00:04:10,599 --> 00:04:14,159 is high in fat, sugar, protein, vitamins, and minerals and 75 00:04:14,199 --> 00:04:16,439 it's consistent right, so as long as you have a 76 00:04:16,439 --> 00:04:19,199 cow and you're milking it every day, you will have milk. 77 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:21,439 The problem that I have with this theory is that 78 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,399 they might not have known or have had like the 79 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,160 knowledge of nutritional facts at that time. So yes, the 80 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:33,639 correlation between health and food was made very early, like 81 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,319 the Egyptians documented the use of fermented food and herbs 82 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,360 as early as three thousand BC, and the Indian Irevetic 83 00:04:41,399 --> 00:04:45,800 text from fifteen hundred BC described food as medicine and 84 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,319 emphasized having a balanced diet, and the Greek physician Hippocrates 85 00:04:50,519 --> 00:04:54,199 stated quote, let food be thy medicine in four hundred BC. 86 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,639 But that doesn't mean that they knew what nutritional benefits 87 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,240 came from what food. They us knew that food played 88 00:05:01,319 --> 00:05:05,160 a very vital role in our health. That's not to 89 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:09,560 say that multiple or all of these theories together can't 90 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,439 be correct. It could be all the things either way. 91 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,959 It wasn't long after the introduction of milk into the 92 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,560 human diet that they started making other dairy products like cheese, yogurt, butter, 93 00:05:19,639 --> 00:05:23,680 and keifer as The evidence suggests. This was likely because 94 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,639 these products lasted much longer than fresh milk, were easier 95 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,160 to digest than raw milk, and reduce the risk of 96 00:05:30,199 --> 00:05:33,199 spoilage and illness. They were trying to find a way 97 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,959 to preserve the foods they had for as long as possible. 98 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,120 Needing easier ways to digest the milk was very important 99 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,240 because originally almost all humans were lactose intolerant. After childhood, 100 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,000 like they could ingest their mother's milk and then they 101 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,839 lost the ability to produce lactasees. Lactase is the enzyme 102 00:05:54,879 --> 00:05:59,439 that digests lactose. Lactose is the sugar found in dairy products. 103 00:05:59,519 --> 00:06:02,600 Just so we kind of understand what's going on here. Historically, 104 00:06:02,959 --> 00:06:06,360 humans lost their ability to digest lactose after weaning from 105 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,720 their mothers. Then about five to seven thousand years ago, 106 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,279 genetics changed this. A genetic mutation appeared that allowed some 107 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:19,399 humans to keep producing lactase after weaning and on into adulthood. 108 00:06:19,519 --> 00:06:23,120 People with this mutation were often chosen over people without 109 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,439 this mutation to breed with because if a person could 110 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,560 drink milk, they could consume more calories, they were healthier 111 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,759 during famines, and had better survival and reproduction rates. This 112 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,720 led to a rapid spread of the mutation because they 113 00:06:37,759 --> 00:06:41,480 were breeding those people more frequently. This lactase persistence mutation 114 00:06:41,639 --> 00:06:44,399 popped up in the Old World about five different times, 115 00:06:44,439 --> 00:06:48,759 mostly affecting Northern Europe. Some African pastoralist tribes and parts 116 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,759 of the Middle East. Why did cow's milk get so 117 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,680 popular over other animal's milk, Mostly because of the large 118 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:01,560 quantities of milk the cows produced. They supported more than 119 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,800 just one person on a daily milking, which was good 120 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,439 for big families. Plus, cows thrived many different climates, making 121 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,759 them more durable. So over time, cow's replace goes and 122 00:07:10,879 --> 00:07:14,319 cheap as the primary dairy source in many cultures, and 123 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:18,600 thus milk became a staple in the human diet. However, 124 00:07:19,639 --> 00:07:25,120 the Industrial Revolution changed the dairy industry drastically. The Industrial 125 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,879 Revolution started in Great Britain around the seventeen sixties and 126 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,800 gradually spread to continental Europe and then to the United 127 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:36,000 States by eighteen forty. It was a global transition period 128 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:41,759 toward more widespread, efficient and stable manufacturing practices. While cities 129 00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:45,839 existed long before factories, the Industrial Revolution caused rapid urban 130 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:49,879 growth as factories concentrated jobs in one place, drawing large 131 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,279 populations and expanding many modern cities. Cities were growing faster 132 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,240 than infrastructure, and milk was traveling a great distance before 133 00:07:58,279 --> 00:08:01,519 actually getting to the consumers. This was the first reason 134 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:03,839 that people were actually getting sick for milk is because 135 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:05,759 they used to get their milk and then drink it 136 00:08:05,839 --> 00:08:08,360 pretty quickly after it was milk from the cow. But 137 00:08:08,399 --> 00:08:11,000 this expansion was causing delays in the consumption of the 138 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,920 milk because it took a couple days for them to 139 00:08:12,959 --> 00:08:15,399 even get the milk initially, and then it wouldn't last 140 00:08:15,399 --> 00:08:17,720 as long, so people were starting to get sick. To 141 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,800 meet the new demands of the growing populations, distilleries started 142 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,319 popping up in major cities. Milk and spirits were of 143 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:27,319 the top beverages because milk was such an important part 144 00:08:27,399 --> 00:08:30,680 of the human diet at that point. Turns out cows 145 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,080 actually will eat the byproducts of spirit distillation, so it 146 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,440 seemed perfect right. They needed this milk and they wanted spirits. 147 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,519 People were drinking beer, spirits, all the things. They would 148 00:08:42,519 --> 00:08:45,000 just feed the cows the barley after it was used 149 00:08:45,039 --> 00:08:47,679 to brew the beer, and then they could save loads 150 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,960 of money because they're like, perfect, it's a two for one. 151 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,200 We get to use it for the milk and for 152 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:56,720 the beer. However, this was not what was best for 153 00:08:56,759 --> 00:09:01,360 the cows. Cows need grass. Til this point, they didn't 154 00:09:01,399 --> 00:09:04,840 know any different. They had always been eating grass. That's 155 00:09:04,879 --> 00:09:06,799 why they were so surprised when the cows would eat 156 00:09:06,799 --> 00:09:11,600 the byproduct from brewing the beer. Really, any living creature 157 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,159 thrives best in its natural environment, and up until this point, 158 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,559 most people were getting their milk from either their own 159 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,279 cow or from a local farmer who had cows. These 160 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,559 cows were living in pastures and eating grass like a 161 00:09:23,639 --> 00:09:26,240 cow does, but once they were brought to the cities, 162 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,759 they were living in these really confined spaces. The sanitation 163 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,039 was super minimal because at the time sanitation wasn't even 164 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,840 really a consideration, and they were standing in their own 165 00:09:36,879 --> 00:09:39,279 filth a lot of the time. They weren't living in 166 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,320 pastures like they historically were. They weren't living in their 167 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,919 normal habitat, and this makes with the little nutritional value 168 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,879 that they were getting from the used barley and whatever 169 00:09:47,919 --> 00:09:50,840 other byproducts they were being fed, the cows were getting 170 00:09:50,879 --> 00:09:54,879 really sick, so sick that in some illustrations from the time, 171 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,639 the cows were literally being held up by a harness 172 00:09:57,639 --> 00:09:59,919 and pulley system from the ceiling so that way the 173 00:10:00,039 --> 00:10:03,080 farmers couldn't milk it. They like literally couldn't even stand 174 00:10:03,159 --> 00:10:05,360 they were so sick. And on top of the cows 175 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:07,840 being sick, The workers handling the milk were dirty too. 176 00:10:08,159 --> 00:10:10,720 They didn't wash their hands like just wasn't common practice 177 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,559 back then, and they really had no regard for sanitation 178 00:10:13,639 --> 00:10:16,360 in any way. They weren't getting rid of the cow poop. 179 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:18,440 They were just letting the cows stand in it. It 180 00:10:18,639 --> 00:10:21,440 was just filthy all around. And then they were giving 181 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,639 this milk to you to drink. Mothers were giving it 182 00:10:25,639 --> 00:10:28,279 to their babies because children were used to drinking milk. 183 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,000 Sick cows were then producing what was called swill milk. 184 00:10:32,639 --> 00:10:36,440 It was this pale, bluish milk that was unfit for 185 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,879 butter or cheesemaking. The only way to drink it was 186 00:10:39,919 --> 00:10:42,399 to thicken it with starch and eggs, whiten it with 187 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,120 plaster of Paris, and then sweeten it with molasses, and 188 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,720 that only made it very barely tolerable, and people noticed 189 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,120 the difference because they were used to drinking fresh, raw milk. Nevertheless, 190 00:10:53,799 --> 00:10:57,559 the milk was marketed as country fresh. They weren't concerned 191 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,000 with the health of the cows at all, or even 192 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,960 in the health of the people drinking the milk. They 193 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,279 were only concerned about their profit margins. How cheaply they 194 00:11:05,279 --> 00:11:08,399 could produce the milk and how much they could then 195 00:11:08,519 --> 00:11:11,559 sell it for because that made their profit margins larger. 196 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,519 During the same time as the Industrial Revolution, there was 197 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,200 the expansion westward in the United States. This started in 198 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,000 the early eighteen hundreds with Louisiana Purchase and with the 199 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,600 Lewis and Clark Expedition, but continued on through the eighteen 200 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,039 hundreds and in frontier areas along the Ohio River Valley, 201 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,440 cows began eating a plant called white snakeroot or rich weed. 202 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,000 It almost looks like baby's breath. It's this plant with 203 00:11:36,039 --> 00:11:38,600 little white flowers, and most people wouldn't be able to 204 00:11:38,639 --> 00:11:42,120 tell the difference. The plant and its properties were unfamiliar 205 00:11:42,159 --> 00:11:44,440 to settlers because they just had never encountered it before, 206 00:11:44,519 --> 00:11:47,080 and they didn't know that they shouldn't let their cows 207 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,559 eat it. But also, the cows are just grazing as 208 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,120 they're being moved across the country. Little did they know 209 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,720 this plant was poisoning the cows with trimodol and in 210 00:11:57,759 --> 00:12:01,200 turn their meat and their milk. The illness from this 211 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,960 was called milk sickness or trimadol vomiting that sometimes included 212 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,799 trimmering vomiting and severe intestinal pain. In animals, trimadol poisoning 213 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,320 is known as trimbles because they would get fine muscle 214 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,200 trimmers in their nose and their flanks and their legs. However, 215 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:18,919 there are other signs of this poison as well, so 216 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,440 the animals will show initial signs of depression, reluctance to 217 00:12:23,639 --> 00:12:27,279 move or eat, and just general inactivity, especially when like 218 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,320 the animals were moving before. Now all of a sudden, they're 219 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,279 not moving. That's kind of a red flag. Then they 220 00:12:33,279 --> 00:12:36,159 would get the trimbles and vomiting would start, and as 221 00:12:36,159 --> 00:12:40,399 the condition progresses, they develop a stiff gate, altered posture, 222 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,600 muscle weakness, inability to stand, and they could go into 223 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,000 a coma and then potentially die. And it wasn't just 224 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,559 people that was getting sick from the cows drinking this milk. 225 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,120 Because they would drink the milk, they'd get trimatal poisoning. 226 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,279 Then their calves would come and nurse the cows would 227 00:12:56,279 --> 00:12:59,519 get sick, and oftentimes they would die as well because 228 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:04,320 the milk was poisoning them. Milk sickness claimed the lives 229 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,919 of thousands of people in the Midwest, so for the 230 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,440 first time in history, people started getting really sick from 231 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:13,360 the milk they were drinking. And this all kind of 232 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:16,320 happened all the same time. In the eighteen hundreds. You 233 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,919 have milk traveling long distances, you've got unsanitary practices of 234 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,879 the milk production, and you've got these cows eating things 235 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:25,240 that they've never eaten before that is actually poisoning them 236 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,399 and causing them to get really sick and in turn 237 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,039 poisoning the people that are drinking the products. And as 238 00:13:30,039 --> 00:13:32,480 far as cities go, no one seemed to make the 239 00:13:32,519 --> 00:13:36,399 connection that this was the first time they weren't personally 240 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,600 milking the cows or buying the milk from a local 241 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:41,440 farmer where they could actually put eyes on the cow 242 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:44,919 and see it. Before the milk processing plants were a thing, 243 00:13:45,159 --> 00:13:47,240 people could verify the health of the cow they were 244 00:13:47,279 --> 00:13:49,480 getting their milk from, so they could see that the 245 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,240 cows were healthy. By the mid eighteen hundreds, milk was 246 00:13:53,279 --> 00:13:56,480 linked to alarming rates of illness and death, particularly in 247 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,480 infants and in children. Mothers continued to feed their children's 248 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,240 swim milk, not knowing that it was making their kids sick. 249 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,159 They knew it tasted weird, but they didn't really know 250 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:09,039 why people were getting tuberculosis, typhoid fever, cholera, diphtheria, and 251 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,320 scarlet fever from contaminated milk. In New York City during 252 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,320 eighteen seventy, the infant mortality rate rose twenty percent and 253 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:18,919 stayed there for the next four years. And that's only 254 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,840 one example of how sick people were getting from this milk. 255 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:25,039 This is where pasteurization comes in, and it makes a 256 00:14:25,039 --> 00:14:26,840 lot of sense. When you put all these pieces together, 257 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:29,440 people are like, the milk is making us sick. We 258 00:14:29,559 --> 00:14:33,360 have to do something about it. Pasteurization is named after 259 00:14:33,399 --> 00:14:38,120 the French microbiologist Louis Pasture, whose research in the eighteen 260 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:43,960 sixties demonstrated that thermal processing would deactivate unwanted microorganisms in wine, 261 00:14:44,159 --> 00:14:48,759 so this process was soon to be used in milk. Firstly, 262 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:53,879 pasteurization is the process of food preservation in which packaged 263 00:14:53,919 --> 00:14:57,279 foods are treated with a mild heat to eliminate pathogens 264 00:14:57,279 --> 00:15:00,519 and extend shelf life. This process either just droys or 265 00:15:00,519 --> 00:15:05,320 deactivates microorganisms and enzymes that contribute to food spoilage or 266 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,000 the risk of disease. In eighteen eighty two, the first 267 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,720 commercial pasteurizer for milk was developed, in Germany. This product 268 00:15:11,799 --> 00:15:16,759 was based off of Louis Pastor's research. However, Pasteor never 269 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,320 pasteurized milk. He only ever used it for wine. Everybody 270 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,159 else was using it for milk. They based it on 271 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,480 his research, but he never intended it for milk, and 272 00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:29,080 Pastor was not the first person to use heat to 273 00:15:29,159 --> 00:15:33,120 kill bacteria, but prior to him, heat treatments involved high 274 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,799 temperature and often prolonged periods of heating to achieve sterilization. 275 00:15:38,039 --> 00:15:41,919 Although safety and qualities were improved, this method often changed 276 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,679 the taste and texture of the product. For most foods, 277 00:15:45,759 --> 00:15:49,000 this didn't really matter because they're packaged, they were solid, 278 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,960 but it did really matter for milk because sterilized milk 279 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,399 had a very different taste to fresh milk. Pasteurized milk 280 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,960 is heated for a relatively short time and then wrap 281 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,399 cooled so it's kept cool. It's heated up, and then 282 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,799 it's rapidly cooled again. Regular pasturized milk is heated to 283 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,799 one hundred and sixty one degrees for about fifteen seconds. 284 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,559 Ultra pasturized milk is heated to a higher temperature. I 285 00:16:12,559 --> 00:16:15,000 can't remember exactly which one, and it's only heated to 286 00:16:15,039 --> 00:16:18,600 that temperature for two seconds until they rapidly cool it. 287 00:16:19,399 --> 00:16:22,960 That's the difference between like ultra pastorization and regular pastorization 288 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,080 when you're in the grocery store looking at those things. 289 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,720 Commercial pasturizing machines for milk were introduced in the US 290 00:16:29,799 --> 00:16:32,840 in eighteen ninety five. The first major commercial use of 291 00:16:32,879 --> 00:16:36,759 pasteurized milk occurred in eighteen ninety seven, when the New 292 00:16:36,799 --> 00:16:40,000 South Wales Fresh Food and Ice Company in Australia advertised 293 00:16:40,039 --> 00:16:44,240 its pasteurized milk and started its campaign towards this method. 294 00:16:44,559 --> 00:16:47,559 Milk pasturization became widespread in the US in the nineteen 295 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:50,639 twenties with the creation of the Standard Milk Ordinance, which 296 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,879 was developed by the US Public Health Service. In the US, 297 00:16:53,919 --> 00:16:57,320 there was also another approach to the dirty milk problem. 298 00:16:57,639 --> 00:17:01,080 Daiies needed to be certified clean by the American Association 299 00:17:01,159 --> 00:17:05,160 of Medical Milk Commissions. They would get inspections and had 300 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,680 to commit to wiping teats before and after milking, washing hands, 301 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,200 and sterilizing milk utensils, things that totally make sense to us, 302 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,799 but just wasn't commonplace back in the day. Unfortunately, being 303 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:21,559 certified clean was a lot more expensive than pasteurization was, 304 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,480 even though At the time, it seemed like citizens were 305 00:17:24,519 --> 00:17:28,000 pushing more for this option because they were used to 306 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,359 raw milk and wanted to keep drinking it that way. Plus, 307 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,359 the idea of cooked milk just really did not appeal 308 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,640 to the general public. They understood that cooking the milk 309 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,799 would kill everything in the milk, not just the bad bacteria, 310 00:17:40,839 --> 00:17:44,279 it also kills the good bacteria. This is when campaigns 311 00:17:44,319 --> 00:17:47,559 re educating the public about pasteurized milk started to be 312 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:53,079 plastered everywhere with promises of scientific progress and methods they 313 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:58,039 could trust. The campaigns really never stopped after that the 314 00:17:58,079 --> 00:18:03,319 people weren't buying in, but after celebrity endorsements, milk campaigns 315 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:06,680 and a lot of government funding, public opinion did start 316 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,880 to sway. Babe Ruth was one of the first celebrities 317 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,799 to be used in a milk advertisement, but was definitely 318 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,160 not the last. In nineteen forty six, Lord Victor Rothschild 319 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,160 introduced a motion to the House of Lords that pushed 320 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,240 the institutionalization of pasteurized milk in the UK, emphasizing how 321 00:18:24,319 --> 00:18:26,720 dangerous raw milk is and that it's a source of 322 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:30,480 serious disease and death in the UK. Some lords did 323 00:18:30,519 --> 00:18:33,640 push back a little bit due to the economic concerns 324 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,200 on small producer retailers and the technical challenges, but ultimately 325 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,559 most lords were for the idea, which makes you wonder 326 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,759 how much money did the Rothschild family stand to gain 327 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,279 from this move to pastorization? Were they the moneyman behind it? 328 00:18:50,599 --> 00:18:52,559 And I actually looked it up because I wanted to know, 329 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:56,799 But it's so long ago, and most of the sources 330 00:18:56,839 --> 00:19:00,680 say it was like government funded, which I don't fully 331 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,440 buy into, but they don't have a specific money trail 332 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,200 in the nineteen forties. To this day, raw milk still 333 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,960 has the reputation for being unsafe. The Center for Disease 334 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,359 Control and Prevention says improperly handled raw milk is responsible 335 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,200 for nearly three times more hospitalizations than any other food 336 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,640 born disease source, making it one of the world's most 337 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,039 dangerous food products. And when I read that, that's why 338 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:29,279 I went to Instagram and I asked you all, if 339 00:19:29,279 --> 00:19:31,720 you drink raw milk, have you ever gotten sick from it? 340 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,000 Because we do drink raw milk. We've never gotten sick 341 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,759 from it. And everybody that I know that drinks raw 342 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:39,599 milk has not gotten sick from it. But I was like, 343 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,599 maybe I just haven't figured it out. Maybe I just 344 00:19:41,599 --> 00:19:43,799 haven't met somebody that drinks raw milk and gets really 345 00:19:43,839 --> 00:19:48,240 sick from it. None of you have either, and in fact, 346 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,160 any government run site will tell you the same thing. 347 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,920 They're all pushing this narrative that raw milk is dangerous 348 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,640 and should be avoided at all costs. Although pasteurizing the 349 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,960 milk doesn't destroy the vitamins and minerals found in the milk, 350 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,519 it does kill all bacteria, good and bad. The largest 351 00:20:05,519 --> 00:20:08,279 concentration of bacteria in your body is found in your gut, 352 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,960 and we're talking like up to a thousand species of bacteria. 353 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,519 The gut is critical in digesting nutrients and fiber, regulating 354 00:20:16,559 --> 00:20:19,839 your immune system. It affects the central nervous system, which 355 00:20:19,839 --> 00:20:23,319 controls brain function and protects the body against microbes and 356 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,319 toxin that can cause harm to you. An imbalance of 357 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,039 healthy and unhealthy microbes is sometimes called gut dyspiosis and 358 00:20:31,079 --> 00:20:34,240 can contribute to weight gain. The gut has been called 359 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,880 the second brain because it contains more than one hundred 360 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:40,640 million neurons, which is more than either the spinal cord 361 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:44,640 or the peripheral nervous system. In fact, about ninety percent 362 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,119 of the fibers in the vegus nerve carry information from 363 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,839 the gut to the brain, not the other way around. 364 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,240 So the gut can influence our mood, depression, anxiety, and 365 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:57,880 so much more about our body. It is imperative to 366 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,759 your health that you have a healthy gut mind microbiome. 367 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,640 A study published in the National Library of Medicine on 368 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:09,000 May nineteen, twenty twenty, concluded quote intake of unpasteurized milk 369 00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:11,720 and dairy products appear to be associated with the growth 370 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,920 of the probiotic bacterial genesis lactobacillis in the human gut. 371 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,880 Lactobacillis is a friendly microbe that has been found to 372 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,599 be helpful against things like ibs, colic and babies, intestinal inflammation, 373 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,680 gastritis which is like stomach pain, hay fever, allergies, candieta, 374 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:35,400 liver disease, gallbladder problems, constipation and diarrhea, arthritis, yeast infections, 375 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,920 and UTIs. And in the study they found a significant 376 00:21:40,039 --> 00:21:45,039 increase in lactobacillis that could be huge for some people 377 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:47,359 with gut issues, but also is good for just the 378 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,960 everyday person to keep their gut in check. So they 379 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,079 don't start to have gut issues, and according to the experts, 380 00:21:53,279 --> 00:21:56,680 the best place to get this microbe is from fermented foods, 381 00:21:57,039 --> 00:22:00,119 but the study proved that raw milk is also a 382 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:04,640 great place to get this microbe. Outside of the benefits 383 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:07,880 we are not getting from drinking pasteurized milk, it's also 384 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,799 hard to say what they may be adding to the 385 00:22:10,839 --> 00:22:13,680 milk when they pasteurize it. There are some milks that 386 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,480 are fortified with vitamins A and D, and while fortification 387 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:20,079 isn't necessarily bad, there are some issues with it that 388 00:22:20,079 --> 00:22:23,599 we should talk about. For example, it could lead to 389 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,000 the over consumption of certain nutrients. In this case, vitamin 390 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:30,680 A and detoxicity are pretty rare, but it could happen 391 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,880 if someone is taking a lot of supplements and then 392 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,640 drinking fortified milk as well. But over consumption could also 393 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:41,839 lead to other things like liver damage. Fortification of vitamin 394 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,240 A is not required for all milks. However, reduced fat 395 00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:47,960 and skim milks are required to be fortified with vitamin 396 00:22:48,079 --> 00:22:51,839 A at a minimum of two thousand international unit or IU, 397 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,880 but it's optional for whole milk. Not to say that 398 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,240 they're not doing it for whole milk is just not required. 399 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,400 All fluid pasteurized milk must be fortified with vitamin D 400 00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:07,279 at a minimum of four hundred IU. This is standard 401 00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:09,920 practice in the US, and it makes you wonder what 402 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,680 else they could potentially put in your milk. I did 403 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,559 look in to see if they could potentially put vaccines 404 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,559 in milk, because I know that's a big concern right 405 00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:21,599 now with them putting different things in our food. As 406 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,680 of right now, it's not possible because of the temperatures 407 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,480 vaccines have to be kept at in order to be viable, 408 00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:33,599 but that doesn't mean that it won't be possible in 409 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,279 the future. At the time pasteurization was first coming around, 410 00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:40,000 it did make a lot of sense because there's a 411 00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:42,799 lot of different issues with the milk. Totally makes sense 412 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:45,279 to keep the milk safe. But now we know a 413 00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:49,319 lot more about germs and sanitary practices and what was 414 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,839 making the cows and in turn the milk actually sick. 415 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,359 So why are they still pushing this narrative that raw 416 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,839 milk is unsafe and dangerous. It just doesn't make any 417 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,519 sense until you get down to the grassroots of it. 418 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,440 Food independence. If you can get milk straight from your 419 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,960 local farmer. There is no need for massive processing plants, 420 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,119 national distribution systems, or corporate middlemen. It comes down to 421 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:18,279 the money and the power. Pasteurization centralizes power. It forces 422 00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:23,400 milk through facilities that require licenses, inspections, equipment, and capital, 423 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,279 most of which small farmers can't or just won't afford, 424 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,480 and that pushes food production into the hands of large 425 00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:34,519 corporations that are easier for governments to regulate, tax and influence. 426 00:24:35,319 --> 00:24:39,359 It also allows for the dependency on industrial systems to continue. 427 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,440 The big milk corporations don't have to be accountable for 428 00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:46,720 the health of their animals because it doesn't matter. They 429 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,200 can fix any issues with the milk after the fact, 430 00:24:50,839 --> 00:24:54,519 which means they can treat the animals really poorly. They 431 00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:57,559 can keep them in a facility on concrete instead of pastures, 432 00:24:57,599 --> 00:25:00,559 or in pastures that don't actually have any grass them, 433 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,319 and they can feed them the cheapest thing because it 434 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,359 just doesn't matter. They're going to pasturize the milk anyway, 435 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,000 you wouldn't know if this cow is sick. Instead of 436 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:11,400 demanding healthier cows and cleaner farms, people are so removed 437 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,119 from the process that the system tolerates overcrowding, stressed animals, 438 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,680 and just lower standards in general. This keeps industrial agriculture 439 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,480 profitable while eliminating competition from small, higher quality farms. And 440 00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:27,119 then when people do go to local farmers and the 441 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,160 farmers are charging more for a half gallon of milk 442 00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:32,200 than what you would pay at the grocery store for 443 00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:35,000 a full gallon of milk, people are getting mad. They're like, 444 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,200 I don't want to pay the higher prices to get 445 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,480 this raw milk. But also the practices to get that 446 00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:45,279 raw milk are typically more sanitary and better for the 447 00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:48,559 cow and better for you than whatever you're buying at 448 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:51,720 the grocery store. But also, knowing your local farmer and 449 00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:54,799 building that relationship with them means you trust them more, 450 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,960 which means you will start opting out of the corporate 451 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:03,640 food pyramid more and more. Honestly, it's a slippery slope. 452 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:06,400 Once you go to local food sources for your food 453 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,519 instead of getting it from the store, you start to 454 00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:10,599 realize there's a lot of things you can make yourself. 455 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:13,319 You start making your own bread, you start buying your 456 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,400 milk locally, buying your eggs locally, you start buying local meat, 457 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,759 you start going to the grocery store less. Frankly, pasteurization 458 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,240 makes milk easier to standardize, modify, and fortify, which we 459 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:33,359 talked about. Once the milk is processed, it can be skimmed, recombined, homogenized, branded, marketed. 460 00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:38,039 It's now a controlled commodity rather than a natural food. 461 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:42,200 This way, they can align it with their dietary guidelines, 462 00:26:42,319 --> 00:26:46,319 school programs, and industrial feeding systems, which are all government run, 463 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,960 by the way. And on top of all this, it 464 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:53,240 reinforces trust and institutions over personal judgment. The message becomes 465 00:26:53,559 --> 00:26:56,160 you are not qualified to decide what's safe for yourself, 466 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,079 what's safe for your family. Only the experts and regulators are. 467 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,920 And so many people have bought into this now. But 468 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,640 they will tell you can't drink raw milk, it will 469 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,680 make you sick. They don't even know that raw milk 470 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,079 is not making people sick. They don't even know the 471 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,519 history behind why pastorization started. They are just so bought 472 00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:17,519 in to the pastorization that they don't even look past it. 473 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,960 Buying raw milk challenges the system. It's pushing back by 474 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,640 implying that individuals can assess risk on their own, know 475 00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:28,920 their source and make informed decisions without the input of 476 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,240 the government. We don't need them to make our decisions. 477 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,839 We can make our own decisions. Raw milk isn't dangerous. 478 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,359 They just want you to continue to rely on them. 479 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,680 But there is really good news. Raw milk is not illegal. 480 00:27:43,319 --> 00:27:45,799 Contrary to popular belief, most people think it's illegal, it's not. 481 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,880 There are four states in which the sale or distribution 482 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,799 of raw milk for human consumption is illegal. So if 483 00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:54,640 you live in those four states, you have to get 484 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,400 raw milk somewhere else, or you should just move in 485 00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:03,279 thirty three estates. Retail sales or on farm sales are 486 00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:08,039 legal now. On farm sales look different in each state, 487 00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:10,920 so you need to look up the laws specifically in 488 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,640 your state. In my state, we have on farm sales, 489 00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:15,880 which literally means you can go to a farm and 490 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,640 buy milk, but also it means that milk can be 491 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,680 delivered to you. We were buying milk for a little 492 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,000 while where it was a delivery service, but we all 493 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,359 it was delivered to a parking lot where we would 494 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,119 go and pick it up, so they didn't actually bring 495 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,920 it to my house, although that's an option as well. 496 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,559 But I'm here to tell you that raw milk tastes 497 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,359 very similar to pasteurized milk, so I can't actually tell 498 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,559 a difference. My husband can a little bit. I can 499 00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:44,119 tell when the milk is kind of on its last legs, 500 00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:48,440 so when it's starting to turn, it has this cheesy taste. 501 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:50,799 It just tastes a little off, and that's when we 502 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,960 just decide not to drink that milk anymore. We can 503 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,079 still drink it, we just don't like the flavor. And 504 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,279 when they go in the winter to being more paid 505 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,920 instead of grazing in the grass, we can tell a 506 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,599 difference then, but ultimately to us it doesn't. The taste 507 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,480 doesn't change that much. It's not so drastic that I 508 00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:13,400 can drink a glass of pasteurized milk for his raw 509 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,960 milk and know the difference. So if you're worried about taste, 510 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,359 not a concern. One of the greatest benefits we've seen 511 00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:22,640 from drinking the raw milk in our house versus drinking 512 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,279 pastorized milk is my son who had chronic diaper rash 513 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:28,480 his entire first year of life. We could not get 514 00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:30,319 rid of it. He had egzema, he had dipper rash, 515 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,680 He was bleeding every single diaper change. We could not 516 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,440 figure it out, and we were putting the diaper rash 517 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,880 cream on it. We took him to the pediatrician. They said, 518 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,279 here's some steroids. Put that on there, and I asked him. 519 00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:44,880 I was like, you're fine with me putting steroids in 520 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,759 the diaper area for a prolonged period of time. They're like, 521 00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:50,960 there are no issues with that, And to me, I 522 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,200 was not comfortable with that. That did not seem like 523 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,160 a good solution to this diaper rash problem. Once we 524 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,680 started giving him raw milk instead of the formula and 525 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,200 the breast milk that we were giving him prior, all 526 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,039 of his skin issues cleared up. Within three days, he 527 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,119 was completely clear. He has not had another diper rash since. 528 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,599 That's not true because sometimes when we're out and about 529 00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:12,839 and we forgot milk, we do have to just buy 530 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,759 pasteurized milk at the grocery store, at the convenience store 531 00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:17,559 or whatever, so we can give him some milk and 532 00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:19,759 we can tell that he's had pasteurized milk because he 533 00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:22,359 gets a diper rash again. But the raw milk cleared 534 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,359 him up and he has not had another skin issue since. 535 00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:27,400 I steam the milk to go in our coffees every morning. 536 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,880 We use it in all of our cooking, all of 537 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,920 our baking, all anything that you would use milk for, 538 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,920 you can use raw milk for. There's no issues. And 539 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,200 again I asked on social media if anyone has ever 540 00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:43,160 had any issues with raw milk, ever gotten sick from 541 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,519 raw milk. It's one of the most dangerous foods out 542 00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:48,279 there according to the CDC. And every single person I 543 00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:52,359 know says they've never gotten sick. They've drank raw milk 544 00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:54,400 most of their lives. They've never gotten sick. They've never 545 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,960 nothing's ever been an issue for them. And that's you, guys. 546 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,039 I asked you. The key is to trust the source. 547 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,680 You know what a cow should be eating. Most people 548 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,440 can look at a cow and tell if it's really 549 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,599 sick or if it's not. Knowledge is power in this situation. 550 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,359 And now that you know that pastorization is not necessary 551 00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:18,599 for your milk, I hope that most of you would 552 00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:20,400 start to look into laws and see if you can 553 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,000 buy raw milk, and maybe you try it. You don't 554 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:25,319 like it, that's fine, but the effects that it can 555 00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:30,119 have on your gut is amazing. And the effects that 556 00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:33,559 it can have on your brain, just knowing that you're 557 00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:36,079 pushing back against the man a little bit more. But 558 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,400 of course, until next week, my friends, stay skeptical, and 559 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,680 I will see you all then. Hey, friends. The rabbit 560 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,559 Hole is an independent podcast written, hosted, and produced by 561 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,640 me Danny Mercy. Special thanks to Lindsay for research and writing. 562 00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:50,680 If you love the podcast, please leave us a five 563 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,640 star rating interview wherever you're listening, follow us on social 564 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,759 media at rabbit dot Hole podcast, and visit our website 565 00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:59,279 at Stay Skeptical dot com for everything else.