Speaker 1: Disition, skating plus welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Oh
so you want to talk about more corruption at the
FBI when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, Well, I got
you covered, because that's what we're going to do again
on this episode. The fact that this man was protected
for so long by who knows who? All right, I
won't speculate, but who knows who. Somebody was protecting him
and the fact that he was able to do what
he was able to do for so long proves that point.
There's a lot of people out there that will try
and act like Epstein wasn't some sort of informant for
the government, and I find that laughable at best. And
if you have information or evidence that can prove that,
I'd love to see it. But there is evidence to
the contrary that Jeffrey Epstein certainly was at the very
least an informant for the federal government, the FBI, the CIA. Whoever,
how do you not go to jail for the Tower
Ponzi Schi? How do you not go to jail during
Bears and Sterns? How do you not go to jail
for molesting a bunch of little girls? Unless you're being
protected by some powerful ass people. And why do those
people protect you, Well, it's not because they're nice. It's
not because they decided one day that they're going to
be the patron of Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein was giving them
something back, right, compromant, blackmail, videotape, surveillance, all of it,
all of the stuff that the FBI said they seized
that we have no idea where it is now, what
was on those hard drives? What sort of video information
do they have? And they're sitting on Anyone who is
in those videos at the very least should be brought
in and deposed, right, But for some reason that's not
the case. In fact, their work was so shoddy that
when the FBI first rated Jeffrey Epstein's house, they didn't
even take the hard drives with them. They left them there.
And then well, of course Richard Concoms takes those hard drives,
leaves with them for a few days, and who knows
what happens to them. Now, I'm not saying he erased
anything or but I don't know what he did. Nobody does.
That's why there's a chain of custody. But it sure
seems that the chain of custody is never respected when
it comes to Jeffrey Epstein. So instead of writing your
pieces on conspiracy, why don't you dig in deep and
ask some of these government officials why they flubbed the
ball so bad for so many years when it comes
to Jeffrey Epstein. And I don't want to just hear
about Acosta anymore. That's him, straight up bullshit. Sure Acosta
has his blame in this. He has no backbone. He's
a coward. He should have stood up to his bosses
and said, I will not take part in this deal.
He didn't do any of that. But if you think
Acosta made that decision on his own, I don't know
what to tell you, because that comes from on high, folks.
That comes from Justice Department Central and Mukasey was the
man in charge at the time. You never hear his
name brought up, do you. Today? We have an article
from Coastal Network headline Jeffrey Epstein and corruption in the
FBI and US court system. This article was published November
fourth of twenty twenty. Jeffrey Epstein, a high profile individual
evaded serious charges in the US government. Jeffrey Epstein, a
hedge funge manager pedophile with many high profile acquaintances, which
was charged with sex trafficking of miners last year after
luring young girls to his Palm Beach mansion. For years.
As someone with seemingly unlimited power and influence, Epstein somehow
evaded serious charges from the government until twenty nineteen, with
accusations dating back to the early two thousands. Now you
show me another person who has been able to so
deftly avoid the federal government for so long, with so
many charges hanging over their head. Bro John Gotti couldn't
do it right. God's dance was interrupted. Paul Castelano. We
can go on and on of powerful mafioso who was
brought down by the federal government. But Jeffrey Epstein has
so much power, has so much reach, that he's able
to operate his disgusting business for all of these years.
The Epstein case brings the state of corruption in the
FBI and US justice system to light. Many questions have
arisen regarding how the case was handled by the FBI
and how the sweetheart deal was made. Epstein, who died
by a suspected suicide allegedly in twenty nineteen, was finally
charged by Florida prosecutors in two thousand and eight when
he pleaded guilty, they might as well have just gave
him a slap on the wrist. Right, Listen, folks, we
gave Jeffrey Epstein a good stern talking to and he's
not gonna do what he did ever again. Meanwhile, he
continued to do it after his arrest, after his release,
and while he was out on work release. So please
save the bullshit for somebody that's buying it. I have
had my fill of the cover up here. Corruption in
the US system enabled Epstein to walk free free years.
Jeffrey Epstein's case depicts deep corruption in the US court system.
After being accused of trafficking and abusing young girls, Epstein
was merely given an eighteen month sentence a slap on
the wrist for such a heinous crime. Not only did
Epstein receive a lenient sentence of solicitation of prostitution as
part of the sweetheart deal, but he only served thirteen months,
during which he was free much of the time on
work release. And while he was out on work release,
according to reports, he was abusing people. So while the
US government was supposed to be watching him, he was
abusing people. Now we see the lawsuit from the gymnasts
against the federal government and the FBI because of Larry Nasser.
I would love to see the same thing here, because
the FBI, the government, they really flow it, They really
really flubbed it, and they shouldn't be given any quarter
when it comes to this situation. Alexandra Acosta, the US
Attorney in Miami at the time, is one of the
key figures who mishandled the Epstein case and granted the
sweetheart deal. Acosta's office broke the law by not disclosing
the deal to survivors. Oh, I thought the court said
something different. Oh, nobody broke the law here. It was improper,
but the law wasn't broken. You notice how the court
never holds itself responsible, although, hold, you're responsible. You out
there with a dimebag of weed in one of these
repressive ass states, you're gonna go to jail. But these
dudes can lie and run operations where they're covering for
pedophiles and it's all good. He had the power to
lock Epstein away for life, yet allowed the sex offender
to roam free for another decade, and I agree with that.
He was part of the problem. But the real problem
for me goes all the way to the top to
the DOJ. A guy like Acosta isn't making a decision
like this in a vacuum. In the summer of twenty nineteen,
Epstein was arrested in charged with sex trafficking by federal prosecutors.
Acosta was not the only official that seemed to be
in Epstein's corner. The office of the New York District
Attorney Cyrus Vance argued that Epstein's status as a sex
offender can be reduced. How about that, get old Cyrus
Vance from the New York Prosecutor's office. You know the
big mouths who run around and who talk about how
they're you know, these proper people, and how everybody else
is an insurrectionist or this or that or the other thing.
You know, all the divisive rhetoric that they like to use. Meanwhile,
it's convenient for them to forget that Epstein was active
right under their noses for decades and these people didn't
do shit about it. So how about you answer for that,
mister Cyrus Vance. How about you answer for that all
of you over at the SDNY and at the New
York Attorney's office sid Epstein's defenders, a Costa and Vance,
are in the public realm and should be held accountable
for their leniency. At least eighty teenagers, most between the
ages of thirteen and sixteen when abused, came forward with
similar stories of being lured to Epstein's mansion. Yet both
Acosta and Vance chose to ignore survivors and side with
a predator simply because he had money and the power
of influence, and he was being protected by some pretty
powerful people. Acosta said about intelligence himself, So who from
intelligence was involved here? Let's get Costa deposed, put them
on the bench, Let's see what's up. What intelligence agencies
approached you. But we can't even get that. And instead
of people from NPR these other outlets digging deeper into
why things are being hidden from the public, instead they
try and attack people in the public. Does that sound
like the proper way to go about it if you're
looking for the truth corruption in the prison system. On
August tenth, twenty nineteen, Epstein was found dead in as
jail cell. The forensic report showed the cause of death
is suicide, though many people are skeptical and don't believe
that Epstein killed himself. Ultimately, two jail guards at the
Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan were charged with falsifying records.
The two guards initially claimed to have done their nightly rounds,
but footage suggests otherwise, and they confess to messing up
the circumstances surrounding the suicide. And how jail guards did
not notice has been a source of conspiracy theories and suspicion. Well,
you can end all of it by being transparent. That's
how you end conspiracy theory with transparency in truth. But
when there's a lack of that from the federal government,
people are left to come up with their own stories,
their own, you know, reasons for why things happened. And
of course there's drifters out there that will play on people,
they'll play on their biases, and they'll come up with
all kinds of wild conspiracy theories. There's no doubt that happens.
But if you're going to talk about conspiracy theory and
people who are pitching them, then speak directly to the
people who are out here pitching conspiracy theories. Don't malign
a whole community of concerned citizens who are demanding justice,
an end to trial and co conspirators. Though Epstein's death
brings an end to the case, it is not the
end of the investigations. Epstein's may main co conspirator, His
longtime girlfriend, Glainne Maxwell, was recently arrested for her role
in the sex trafficking of miners, and we know the
story of her now she's in prison for twenty years.
Other prominent figures who mingled with Epstein and Maxwell are
also under scrutiny. A survivor accuses Prince Andrew of sex
with miners and says that Epstein trafficked many of the
underage girls to have sex with prominent men. Other politicians
and celebrities who socialize with Epstein are also under the
public i including President Trump, former President Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey,
and Woody Allen, to name a few. The Epstein cor
corruption saga is not over for those who are involved
need to be held accountable so justice can be brought
to the survivors. Now that sounds like a tune, I'd
like to dance to a little bit of justice in
a world, in a world filled with injustice, sounds like
a pretty good time to me, all right, folks, that's
gonna do it for this episode. If you'd like to
contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapouchi at
proton mail dot com. That's b O b b Y
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Underscore c. A. P u Cci. The link that I
discussed can be found in the description box. Our article
today is from the from Law and Crime. This article
is from September two, twenty one, twoenty and nineteen, headline
former Epstein work release guard destroyed PbSO records are the
smoking gun. This article was authored by Jerry Lamb. And
again I'm adding a little more meat to that bone, right,
some more context to what we've been talking about down
in Palm Beach, and to give you a little bit
more of an idea on why I think that it's
going to be a huge focus in this case as
we move forward, and especially especially if the Eleventh Circuit
Court of Appeals overturns the whole thing, then it is
game on for sure. But as of right now, I
truly believe that the Public Corruptions Unit has Florida directly
in their crosshairs. A West Palm Beach County Sheriff's deputy
on Friday divulged first hand information relating to Jeffrey Epstein's
contra vircial work release program. The deputy who spoke to
WPTV on the condition of anonymity is the first PBS
so the deputy to speak out about the office's special
treatment of the now deceased Epstein. Okay, So if this
person spoke out to the paper right is speaking out
to the media on the condition of anonymity, You would
think that if the Public Corruptions Unit is digging in here,
that they are going to try and track down whoever
this person is or others like this person who have
firsthand knowledge and get them to go on the record
about what occurred, because it's obvious here that the law
was broken. It is obvious here that the victims' rights
were not respected, and it is also obvious here that
more people besides the ones that have been discussed at length,
like Acosta, need to be brought to account here. Okay,
and when we're talking about Florida, Barry Krisher is the
first person that comes to my mind. When you go
against the grain, if you rock the boat, if you
raise your voice about something that you don't think is
on the up and up. The sheriff's office is very vindictive,
the deputy told Contact five. And I've heard a lot
of that about Palm Beach. I've heard that there is
a lot of that kind of behavior and thought process
amongst the rank and file, that it's not a good
idea to rock the boat down there, and you should
just do what you're told. And that seems to be
pretty prevalent in sources that I've spoke with who were
involved in law enforcement, who were tasked with chasing down
Jeffrey Epstein. When I was in New Mexico and I
spoke to one of my sources, an ex law enforcement agent,
they were of the same mind. They were so disillusioned
with how things were going and with how people like
Jeffrey Epstein and his rich cohorts were able to finesse
local politicians and state politicians that they decided to give
up their lifelong dream of being a law enforcement agent
after over a decade pursuing it. That's how disillusioned they
were with what was going on. And you see that
with a lot of these ex police officers or people
who speak out who were involved with the Jeffrey Epstein case.
They just they ran into roadblock after roadblock after roadblock,
trying to prosecute this guy, trying to get this guy
behind bars in a manner that is fitting for somebody
that is as big of a predator and as big
of a danger to the community as he was. And
you see it with a lot of these guards that
speak off the record, a lot of these cops that
speak off the record, and it's always the same, and
that story is you cannot go after the political donor class.
It's like they're their own class of people, right. These
big wigs, these bagmen, these people that are spending money
hand over fist on politics. These are the sort of
people that you just cannot go after in these investigations.
And that's what I heard from the sources that I've
talked to, and what you see here from these types
of articles where we hear from people who were directly
involved in what was going on and how it was
almost impossible for them to do their job correctly. The
deputy then described Epstein's two thousand and eight in two
thousand and nine work release program a privilege he was
able to attain despite pleading guilty to soliciting prostitution from
a minor as being in clear violation of protocol which
called for deputies to have eyes on Epstein at all times.
And again, this goes into what I'm talking about with
the Public Corruptions Unit. If they weren't doing their job
and they let Epstein roam around free and he was
allowed to abuse traffic, whatever have you, then I think
that that would definitely be the sort of thing that
the Public Corruptions Unit would want to take a look at. Right,
for starters, when you signed up for that detail, it
was a plane closed detail, and that almost never ever happens.
The deputy said, we were told to follow his vehicle
and our own sheriffs issued vehicle. I was told when
he went to his house to stay in the driveway.
I don't know what happened behind closed doors when he
went in the house and allegedly had lunch. You know,
he could have been doing anything during that timeframe. That
is one of the reasons I stopped working the detail.
And again, if you're one of these rank and file
police officers, right, I mean, your job is hard enough
before everything that has just started to occur in this country,
now forget it. So you can't you have your superiors
telling you to sit sit in the driveway. You don't
know what's going on in the house. Anyone could be there.
What people, What if a girl was brought there before
you guys got got there. What if he had that
all set up with his procures and his groomers, and
there's a deputy in the front while Jeffrey Epstein is
abusing a girl in the back. That's out of the
realm of possibility with Jeffrey Epstein. I'm sorry, folks, it
is not. And these cops, I mean, imagine being this guy.
Your superiors are like, all right, we need you to
watch Epstein, but here are all your rules, and they
give you a rule book that's from the the from
the floor to the ceiling high. It's just absurd. The
whole entire case surrounding Jeffrey Epstein is absurd. Everything about
the way they try to try to quote unquote prosecute
him the first time around is absurd, and the reactions
from those involved are most assuredly absurd when they are
called out on their behavior. When asked too, Epstein consorted
with while working the deputy said the majority of people
he remembered seeing were twenty year old females in well
dressed business attire. Well, I don't know how you could
tell their twenty year old females. I guess maybe as
a cop you have a better idea. I guess maybe
from looking at people's ideas. I don't know. I'm not
good at that age stuff. When I was young, I
worked at a casino here in Las Vegas called Treasure Island,
and they used to have this midway down there where
they had all of these like carnival type games, and
they used to have this weight guessing game, and you
would have to guess people's weight, guess their age, the
whole nine And I was absolutely atrocious at it. I
cannot tell you how many stuffed animals I ended up
giving away on that stupid game, so much so that
they moved me to a different game. So that goes
to tell you show you how good I am at
guessing people's ages. I'm just terrible at it. So maybe
this cop is a little bit better than I am.
But I really don't know how you can tell how
old somebody is these days. I thought it was strange
that besides me myself and mister Epstein. We were the
only males in the office. I remember I took note
of it mentally. The deputy said, what else was unusual
about it was the fact that he was allowed to
leave the office and go to his residence to have lunch.
I've never ever been to a detail where that was
allowed to happen. So again, these people who put this
in place, all right, the prosecutors, Dershowitz, left Court Star
and the rest of them all need to be held
to account. Why did Jeffrey Epstein get special privileges that
other inmates did not have, and who was the one
who initiated it and then who put it into play?
Those are the questions that you would think the Public
Corruptions Unit are mulling about. Right now. Multiple women have
filed lawsuits alleging that they were flown from New York
to Palm Beach and forced to have sex with Epstein
during his work release hours. Right there, That alone should
make the State of Florida conplicit. And the girls who
were abused when supposedly this animal was under wraps and underguard,
they should sue the State of Florida. The prosecutors and
I would go after Dershowitz too. I don't know if
that would work out or whatever, but I'd go after
all of those people because they all helped facilitate this abuse,
even after they knew what Jeffrey Epstein was. How dare
you let this guy out on work release? How dare
you not bury him underneath the prison and get rid
of the keys. The deputy further told Contact five he
and others were mainly supposed to just sit in front
of Epstein's property and just log the names of any
person who came or left the office. However, when Contact
five requested a copy of the logs kept by deputies
guarding Epstein, PbSO spokeswoman Terry Barbera confirmed that the records
were get ready for this folks, destroyed according to their
public records schedule. Isn't that just convenient, missus Barbera. The
records are destroyed, the video is destroyed, everything's destroyed. You
know what's really destroyed, the official narrative. That's what's really destroyed.
It is quite obvious that their official narrative is was
and always will be straight up garbage. Jeffrey Epstein was
protected by the Prosecutor's Office and not only that, because
of that protection, they helped facilitate the abuse of every
single girl who was abused while he was supposedly under
their watch. And they must answer for that. That sounds
like the smoking gun right there, said the deputy about
the destruction of the records. That is highly suspect, especially
with the sheriff's office where they keep records of everything.
And in this day and age with computers and what
trilobyte memory sticks and all this other jazz, you don't
need to destroy no records. Everything that is of public
concern should be stored and saved. Destroying public records, what
a bunch of garbage. It must be nice to have
that to fall back on. Yeah, you know we had
that stuff, but Joe on his lunch break just put
that in the shredder ten minutes and it's before you
got here. What a coincidence? Are these people for real?
How is it that we have been asleep at the
wheel for so long? Folks, my fellow Americans, how is
it that we have not held these people to account?
I don't know about you, but the days of letting
this shit slide, the days of not paying attention to
what these scumbags are up to those days are long over.
In an email to the news outlet, Barbara said any
such allegations were false. The allegations you were depicting below
are factually untrue and or inaccurate. Due to the ongoing
criminal investigation that is being completed by FDLE, no other
response regarding these allegations will be given by the sheriff
or the PbSO. Further, your email will be forwarded to
the FDLE for further investigation into the deputies Alley negations.
I just love it. I love it. I love it.
Due to the ongoing criminal investigation, we're not telling you shit.
How often do they use that as an excuse? That's
another thing that needs to be addressed with all of
this criminal reform we're talking about. Okay, I don't want
to hear that bs anymore. Oh, Well, this is under investigation,
so we can't give you any information about it. Well,
it's really easy for the government to initiate an investigation
to keep the information from the public, isn't it. And
we have already established we can't trust the jackanapes that
run our government, can we? And I don't just mean
this administration, folks, Okay, I'm talking about all of them collectively.
So why would we believe anything that Miss Barbara has
to tell us about procedure or otherwise when it comes
to the shit show that is the Jeffrey Epstein case.
And if anybody is going to be looked at through
the microscope and have a nice bright light shine directly
on them from the Public Corruptions Unit, I think that
the perfect destination would be Palm Beach. If you'd like
to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapucci
at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby c ap u Cci
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Twitter at Bobby Underscore cap u CCI's up, everyone, and
welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this look back episode,
we're going to hear from former police Chief Michael Rider
of the Palmbeach Police Department. This article was published by
NBC News and was published on September twentieth of two
thousand and nineteen. The authors of this piece, Sarah Fitzpatrick
and Rich ship Hero. Former Palm Beach Police Chief Michael
Ryder spent years trying to convince state and federal prosecutors
in Florida to bring serious charges against Jeffrey Epstein. Now,
the retired lawman wants to tackle a new mission to
persuade lawmakers to take action to prevent the next Jeffrey
Epstein from perverting the criminal justice system. Now, Michael Ryder
was one of the only good guys, if there were
any good guys, if you will, in the whole entire
Epstein saga. This guy listened to what these girls said,
compiled a whole bunch of evidence, and then turn that
evidence over to the prosecutors. Now, once the prosecutors have
that evidence, it's up to them to do their right
thing with it. Right. It's up to them to make
sure that they get indictments. And then after they get
the indictment, it's up to them to make sure that
these people are convicted. So they failed. The prosecutors in
Florida failed. The police officers in Palm Beach who worked
this case originally, they did great work. The investigators were
all over this. They compiled all kinds of evidence. When
it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, it was the prosecutors once
again who decided not to pursue it. Epstein found every loophole,
writer told NBC News as part of a month's long
Dateline investigation. I want some system in the future that
this can't happen again. He's not wrong. One of the
ongoing conversations we've had about these people, all of them,
is how they navigate loopholes, how they navigate technicalities and
somehow harness them always to work in their favor. Now,
I guess that's what they were put into these laws
for in the first place, right, so the rich people
can navigate them and not get in trouble when they're
the ones who gets slapped with them. Like we said
previously several times, it's like when you have a computer
programmer who creates software, they leave themselves a little back
door so they can access it, right, same thing here.
They know that the small folk us are going to
be the ones who have to live up to these laws,
not them, not their friends. Writers said he believes the
state and federal prosecutors handling of the Epstein case amounts
to the worst failure of the criminal justice system in
modern times. Look, he's not wrong. It's the reason we're
still talking about this right now. It's that impactful, it's
that important about how the criminal justice system is conducted
moving forward, we need something that at provides equitable law
for everybody. If you're a girl from the quote unquote
other side of the tracks and you say you were
abused by a rich and powerful man and there's evidence
to back that up, you should be listened to. And
for way too long, these guys had all of their loopholes,
all of their technicalities, and they were able to navigate
the criminal justice system by using those and harnessing the
relationships that they built with the other so called elite,
and it amounted to get out of jail free cards.
The story begins in March of two thousand and five
when the Palm Beach Police Department received a call from
the distraught mother of a fourteen year old girl. Now
imagine being the cop on the other of the other
end of that phone call. Uh yeah, this is the
Palm Beach Police Department, Sergeant Stanton speaking, Oh my god,
my daughters, he's been abused by Okay, hold on, man,
slow down. And then you start processing the details and
the name that's being dropped, and all of a sudden,
you know right away you have yourself a big problem.
Because when rich people are accused of stuff like this,
they automatically strike back, and there's you know, problems for
the people who bring this stuff up. So I'm sure
the cops weren't too happy to hear the name Jeffrey Epstein.
But what I will say about the Palm Beach Police Department,
they didn't shy away from it. They did their job.
They did their duty. The woman writer recalled said her
underage daughter was having sex with an adult who lives
in a mansion in Palm Beach. Palm Beach police detectives
immediately launched an investigation. Yeah, that's probably the right thing
to do. You got some guy living in a mansion
and he's having a relationship with a fourteen year old girl.
It's probably a good idea to launch an investigation. I
don't care who that person is in the mansion. I
don't care if it is the most famous person in
the world. You can't be abusing children. Okay, So the
Palm Beach Police Department, they started going hard, and if
you know the story, well, you know that they really
were kicking in some doors and asking some very uncomfortable questions.
Do you think it's just a shock, just a coincidence
that this got kicked away to the FEDS and then
back down to the state level. They wanted it to
look like, oh yeah, we're gonna take action, We're gonna
kick it up to the feds, but really they never
had any intention of the FEDS prosecuting this case. They said,
this is credible, this is believable, said Ryder, speaking in
his first in depth TV interview. Our sense, just from
sitting in the room with the first survivor was that
this is something we've absolutely got to get on. So
right from Jump Street, the Palm Beach Police Department knew
that this was something way bigger. And Michael Ryder, the
chief here, he didn't spare any expenses, right, He was
all over this. He had his investigators looking into it,
chasing down leads, and what they uncovered, what they found
was terrifying. The interview with the initial young girl led
to another and another. I have no problem telling you
everything that I know, one of the girls told the
police in a videotaped interview obtained by NBC News. Another
told police that Epstein pulled out this vibrator thing and
he pulled down my panties. Now, remember they only listened
to had one girl speak in front of the grand jury.
Why if all of these girls came forward with all
of these credible allegations, why only have the one girl
speak in front of the grand jury. That does not
make sense. Investigators were immediately struck by the consistency of
the accounts. Writer said. The stories were all the same.
He said, they all could describe the house in detail,
they could describe what happened, and they didn't know each other.
It wasn't like all these girls got together and said,
all right, we're gonna take down Jeffrey Epstein, the guy
who lives in the mansion down the block. Nobody even
knew wo Epstein really was at this point. He wasn't
a celebrity, So that whole line of thinking has always
been garbage to me. These were just young kids, high
school kids, younger in some cases. But the detectives also
observed that the accounts weren't perfectly aligned. That would have
been a red flag that the stories were coordinated. Were coordinated,
writer said, The investigators noted something else of significance. Many
of the survivors didn't know each other, so there was
little chance that they would have come together to concoct
false allegations. And that, of course, was the bedrock of
Epstein's defense. Right, this is all fake. Everyone's looking for
a payday. I'm like a piggy bank. Blah blah, blah blah.
Within those first few weeks, the investigation was already bearing fruit.
We realized this was basically a way of life for Epstein,
writer said. And it didn't take long to realize that
a lot of people were involved in this. This was
a very prolific sexual predator. Now, listen to what the
chief of police is saying here. Okay, and this is
what I always tell you to do. Don't listen to me,
don't listen to Joe Schmoe who has the other podcast.
Listen to what these policemen say. Listen to what these
investigators say, Listen to what the survivors say. There were
a lot of people that were involved in this. This
was a very prolific sexual predator. That's not someone making
up a story. That's not some guy who just got
involve the case yesterday. That's Michael Ryder, the man who
investigated this as the police chief in Palm Beach, who
blew this shit open. He even knows how much more
and how deeper this goes. Detectives picked through Epstein's trash
and discovered incriminating messages on scraps of paper documenting phone calls.
She is wondering if two thirty is okay? She needs
to stay in school? Read one. Imagine and whoever took
that note down is another piece of shit. What do
you mean she needs to stay in school? Why are
any school age girls calling Jeffrey Epstein in the first place?
The note it was clear to police. Where about massages
and sex? Writers said? And it just wasn't phone messages?
Rider said. Epstein had flowers delivered to one of the
survivors who was in a performance of performance at her
high school, congratulating her at the end of the performance. Now,
imagine how brazen you must be this high school age
girl that you're sexually abusing. She has this high school
performance and you send her flowers. Now, I know if
I was the dad of that girl, there would be problems, conversations.
Who would be had this dirty son of a bitch
was so brazen in his behavior, so brazen in his activity,
that he would send flowers to a girl after her performance.
NBC News has spoken with nearly two dozen women who
alleged that Epstein didn't operate alone. Writer said, the investigation
identified adult women who had sexual contact with underage girls
and in some cases performed sexual battery on children. This
was a financially successful, smart capable, well networked, and well
financed individual who built an organization around him that supported
his criminal enterprise. Writer said, Now, if you're wondering why
I always talk about Rico and how this isn't a
Rico case, folks, what more do you need? I mean, honestly,
and again, this is another reason why I've chosen the
format that I have chosen to follow along with these articles.
That way, everything is uniformed. It's not me making this
stuff up right, or oh this is just a guess
by me. This is from curating all of these articles
and following all of this evidence and listening to what
the key players had to say for me, survivors, lawyers,
and the law enforcement agents on the ground, not the
jerk offs in the back room, not the accostas of
the world, guys like Michael Ryder, And when you listen
to what they have to say, it is rather obvious
that this was a criminal enterprise that should have been
ricoed and everybody involved should have seen a prison cell.
But as the months wore on with police building their case,
things began to happen. When detectives armed with a search
warrant entered his home with a video camera. What they
found made them suspect he had been tipped off. The
place had been cleaned up. Writers said it wasn't completely
devoid of evidence, but a computer that contained all of
the home surveillance camera footage was gone and all the
wires were left hanging there. A rider said, so they
did a dump and pump came in, ripped everything out
real quick, all of the monitoring equipment because somebody in
the government tipped them off, one of their buddies. But nah,
Jeffrey Epstein wasn't connected. He wasn't an asset. After six
months of investigation, Riders said, the local police department noticed
the shift in attitude from the state prosecutors. Riders said
the prosecutors told him the witnesses were not credible. The prosecutors,
writer said, suddenly seemed dismissive of the case and were
uncooperative in approving critical investigative techniques that hindered the Palm
Beach Police Department's investigation. No shit, no shit, they were.
These guys were working behind the scenes with Epstein's lawyers
to make sure this went nowhere, or at the very least,
make sure Epstein got just a little smack on the ass.
No real jail time, thirteen months in a stockade. Are
you kidding me? Right now? I've had punishments for my
parents that were worse than that. Epstein, who had a
massive bankroll and extensive connections, had assembled a high powered
team of lawyers, including Kenneth's Starr, Alan Dershowitz, Jack Goldberger,
and Jay Lefkowitz. Around this time, Ryder said the investigation
took another strange turn. Epstein's defense team seemed to know
details about the probe before they were made public. Wha,
what do you know? Just take your pick from Ken Starr,
Alan Dershowitz, Jack Goldberger, or Quitz about who could have
manipulated their influence, their relationships behind the scenes to turn
it into something like this. Folks, we talk about it
all the time. When you go to Harvard and you
get your law degree and then you're practicing law. People
aren't really paying you because you went to Harvard, per se,
They're paying you because now you have access to all
of the other scoundrels who went to Harvard, so you
have inside connections, You have access, and that's what you're
paying for when you get a high profile lawyer. Your
lawyers are going out to eat dinner, and who knows
what else with these prosecutors down here in Florida at least,
and at the federal level when we're talking about Mukesy
and the others, And then we wonder why Epstein doesn't
get punished like the rest of us would. How many
of you gotten an invite to go play around to
eighteen with insert federal official here. We believe that the
content of our probable cause Affidavid eventually, sometime after we
presented it to the States Attorney's office, ended up with
the defense. Attorney's writer said, because minute details that nobody
else knew that were in those documents were being refuted
and contrary information provided by the defense, this writer said,
never happened to me before in my career. And this
is a guy again, he's in Palm Beach dealing with rich,
powerful people. Never in his life as he dealt with
something like this, however, but no, continue to tell me
that Epstein wasn't getting hooked up, that nobody was there
helping him make sure that the walls don't fall in,
and then tell me that this wasn't a Rico case.
Rider was so frustrated that he took the unusual step
of asking the state Attorney, Barry Krisher, to remove himself
from the case, citing the office highly unusual treatment of
the investigation. When that didn't work, the police chief turned
his evidence over to the FBI, and you would think, right,
the g men are coming. This is awesome, all right, perfect,
They're going to save the day. And look, don't get
it twisted again, folks. I'm not talking about your average
agent that's working his tailoff or her tailoff to try
and keep us safe. There's a lot of those people
that are going after some horrible fucking criminals. My problem
isn't with them. My problem is with the command structure,
the bureaucracy that runs this whole entire monolith. They look
at us like we're just numbers, like we don't matter
as far as you know, the citizens of this country,
and they feel like they've been given the charter to
do as they wish. And how many times do we
see good agents like or good cops in this instance,
like Mike Ryder gets screwed by prosecutors and these federal
minions at the Department of Justice, those are the people
I have a problem with, not the rank and file.
And they said, this is an easy case. This is
a horrific situation. We'll put him away for the rest
of his life. Writer recalled, that's what the US attorney
assistant US attorney told us as well. But writers renewed
enthusiasm didn't last long. In time, it became clear that
the federal probe was stalling. Though he believes the FBI
agents were invested in the case, Writer arranged to meet
face to face with the prosecutor in charge of the case,
US attorney Alex I have no spine, bitch, ass Acosta.
Acosta would go on to be named US Labor Secretary
under President Donald Trump. Another brilliant move by old trumpy Huh,
Alex Acosta. I mean, you don't have this conversation with him,
and then even if you do, you still go through
with it. There's not a better person in the whole
entire country that could have been Labor secretary. Huh. But
I have to say this I'm thankful that Trump, in
a weird way put him there, because if alex Acosta
wasn't in this position, and there weren't, uh, you know
so a bit of politicism happening around this, we probably
would have never had the second arrest of Epstein, because
would Julie Brown really been as interested if this didn't
have the political been to it, if it wasn't a
Trump appointee. Again, maybe I don't know. We can't tell
one way or the other. The future was what it was,
But I have a funny feeling that if it wasn't
for Trump appointing alex Acosta as Labor Secretary in a
weird way, we would have never been at the point
we are now. The conversation writer said did not get
off to a promising start. He basically said in a
very measured manner that the defense in the case has
successfully delayed and frustrated their investigation and their prosecution of
the case. Writer said, so, when's the last time the
federal government has been frustrated and had their case delayed?
Zero chance? It doesn't have unless they wanted to happen.
But Rider left Acosta's office hoping for the best. After
the prosecutor told him they were moving forward with the investigation.
I left that meeting thinking, this guy hopefully is going
to do his job. Writer said, it didn't turn out
the way a rider had hoped. In two thousand and seven,
Acosta made the decision not to charge Epstein in federal court. Instead,
he sent the case back to the local prosecutors. Now, again,
I don't think this was a costa on his own.
You can't make this decision as a mid level bureaucrat.
This was a decision that was made on high and
Acosta was just the trigger man. Ryder was crushed. The
same office that seemingly refused to pursue Epstein aggressively was
now back in charge. And again you could say, oh,
this is a coincidence. It's just you know, the way
things happen sometimes. But there sure are a lot of
coincidences around Jeffrey Epstein. Isn't there the cameras, the missing emails,
all of this nonsense. At what point is it not coincidence?
And is it just what it is? Acosta agreed to
sign a non prosecution deal that ended the federal sex
crimes investigation and spared Epstein the prospect of serving several
years in prison. Instead, Epstein pleaded guilty to state charges
for soliciting a minor for prostitution and served thirteen months
at Palm Beach County Jail. Epstein was also required to
register as a sex offender and pay his restitution to
his survivors. Eh didn't have to register in New Mexico. Huh,
I've never seen anything like it, Ryder said. It was
extremely unusual and disappointing. Rider said he believes the result
would have been different had the victims been under age
boys that would have shocked the senses more. Writer said,
somehow this hits in a different place, that they were
young women on the way to being women, And he's
not really wrong about that. Yeah, how many people have
set these girls up as prostitutes? Or why do they
keep coming back the brain dead narrative that they wanted
this to happen? You know, the same folks that will say, oh, well,
she was wearing a mini skirt, so way more nuanced
than that. When you have all of the different things
that went in to grooming these girls and normalizing all
of this, it's a whole different ballgame. But he's not wrong.
Boys would have really shocked the emotions and shocked the senses.
Epstein was released from jail in the summer of two
thousand and nine. The case scene behind him until twenty
and eighteen, when The Miami Herald published an expose highlighting
the government's kid glove treating of a man accused of
praying on dozens of underage girls. Acosta defended the way
his office handled he described as a complicated case. We
believe we proceeded appropriately, Acosta said during a July twenty
nineteen press conference. We did what we did because we
wanted to see Epstein go to jail. So you mean
to tell me the federal government couldn't have done that
if you really wanted to see and again, let me
back up, you might want to see him go to jail.
We want to see him go to prison, okay, And
you not running the federal charges, you and your bosses
taking the step back that made sure that Epstein was
never going to federal prison. But Acosta resigned as litt
oh excuse me. Acosta defended the way his office handled
what he described as a complicated case. We believed we
proceeded appropriately, Acosta said during a July twenty nineteen press conference.
We did what we did because we wanted to see
Epstein go to jail. But Acosta resigned as Labor Secretary
two days later amid mounting criticism. Krisher, the former state attorney.
He didn't return a request for comment from MDC News,
but he relates a statement in July defending his office
and pushing back against Acosta, suggesting that state prosecutors were
driving the case. Nobody wants to take responsibility ever, right.
It's always somebody else's fault. It's always someone else who
did something wrong. In reality, the Feds fucked up and
the state fucked up. If mister Acosta was truly concerned
with the state's case and felt he had to rescue
the matter, he would have moved forward with the fifty
three page indictment that his own office once drafted. Chrisher
said Epstein was arrested on fresh charges in July. New
York federal prosecutors charged him with its sex trafficking and
conspiracy in a case that featured similar allegations to those
a decade earlier. Never far enough, right, How again, how
isn't this rico considering not what I said to you,
but what Michael Ryder laid out to you just previously
in this article. Epstein pleaded not guilty, but he committed
suicide in his federal jail cell last month. The death
left Rider thinking about the survivors and their lost chance
to see him held accountable. I feel so badly for
the survivor's, writer said, I realize that there's a catharsis
in confronting Epstein, and they'll never have that opportunity. But
he hopes that the entirety of the case will lead
to systemic change. The criminal justice system needs to learn
from this and make sure it can't happen again, said Ryder,
who still lives in Palm Beach where he runs a
security consulting firm. Rider wants to see legislation that bars
miners from being labeled as prostitutes in the justice system.
He also called on Florida lawmakers to close loopholes that
allow people like Epstein to get away with misdemeanors for
child sex crimes. I mean, is he wrong? Does a
cop a former cop have to call for this? Why
wouldn't our politicians, the ones who make the laws, do
it themselves. Oh, they're the ones who put this law
on the books. Oh, that's right. If you look at
the first dozen victims and their accounts of what happened
to them, it's clear to me he was coached by
a lawyer on how to only commit a misdemeanor. Writer said,
if you're a member of the legislature and you're listening
to this right now, fix this. It needs to be fixed.
And I'm guessing that lawyer. I don't have proof of this,
but I'm guessing it was Darren Endyke. Writer also delivered
a message to all of those girls whose lives were
upended by a middle aged sexual predator with endless resources
available to him. I don't have any contact with the survivors,
and if they're listening now, I'm embarrassed for the way
the criminal justice system treated them back then and Florida
writer said, but I want them to know that not
every part of the system failed them. We did our
job in Palm Beach and at the Palm Beach Police Department,
and everything that happens here should lead to in the future,
if any of these things happen again to some other victim,
that the system won't fail them. And I'd like to
believe that, but man, I have a hard time believing it, Folks.
I am very cynical about our justice system, as you
all know, and the more I see, the more cynical
I become. So. While I hope that Michael Ryder's plea
will find its way to the ears of our legislators,
for some reason, I still have my doubts. If you'd
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