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Speaker 1: Disition, skating plus welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Oh

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so you want to talk about more corruption at the

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FBI when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, Well, I got

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you covered, because that's what we're going to do again

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on this episode. The fact that this man was protected

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for so long by who knows who? All right, I

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won't speculate, but who knows who. Somebody was protecting him

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and the fact that he was able to do what

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he was able to do for so long proves that point.

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There's a lot of people out there that will try

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and act like Epstein wasn't some sort of informant for

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the government, and I find that laughable at best. And

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if you have information or evidence that can prove that,

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I'd love to see it. But there is evidence to

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the contrary that Jeffrey Epstein certainly was at the very

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least an informant for the federal government, the FBI, the CIA. Whoever,

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how do you not go to jail for the Tower

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Ponzi Schi? How do you not go to jail during

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Bears and Sterns? How do you not go to jail

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for molesting a bunch of little girls? Unless you're being

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protected by some powerful ass people. And why do those

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people protect you, Well, it's not because they're nice. It's

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not because they decided one day that they're going to

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be the patron of Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein was giving them

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something back, right, compromant, blackmail, videotape, surveillance, all of it,

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all of the stuff that the FBI said they seized

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that we have no idea where it is now, what

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was on those hard drives? What sort of video information

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do they have? And they're sitting on Anyone who is

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in those videos at the very least should be brought

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in and deposed, right, But for some reason that's not

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the case. In fact, their work was so shoddy that

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when the FBI first rated Jeffrey Epstein's house, they didn't

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even take the hard drives with them. They left them there.

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And then well, of course Richard Concoms takes those hard drives,

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leaves with them for a few days, and who knows

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what happens to them. Now, I'm not saying he erased

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anything or but I don't know what he did. Nobody does.

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That's why there's a chain of custody. But it sure

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seems that the chain of custody is never respected when

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it comes to Jeffrey Epstein. So instead of writing your

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pieces on conspiracy, why don't you dig in deep and

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ask some of these government officials why they flubbed the

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ball so bad for so many years when it comes

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to Jeffrey Epstein. And I don't want to just hear

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about Acosta anymore. That's him, straight up bullshit. Sure Acosta

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has his blame in this. He has no backbone. He's

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a coward. He should have stood up to his bosses

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and said, I will not take part in this deal.

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He didn't do any of that. But if you think

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Acosta made that decision on his own, I don't know

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what to tell you, because that comes from on high, folks.

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That comes from Justice Department Central and Mukasey was the

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man in charge at the time. You never hear his

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name brought up, do you. Today? We have an article

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from Coastal Network headline Jeffrey Epstein and corruption in the

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FBI and US court system. This article was published November

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fourth of twenty twenty. Jeffrey Epstein, a high profile individual

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evaded serious charges in the US government. Jeffrey Epstein, a

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hedge funge manager pedophile with many high profile acquaintances, which

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was charged with sex trafficking of miners last year after

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luring young girls to his Palm Beach mansion. For years.

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As someone with seemingly unlimited power and influence, Epstein somehow

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evaded serious charges from the government until twenty nineteen, with

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accusations dating back to the early two thousands. Now you

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show me another person who has been able to so

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deftly avoid the federal government for so long, with so

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many charges hanging over their head. Bro John Gotti couldn't

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do it right. God's dance was interrupted. Paul Castelano. We

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can go on and on of powerful mafioso who was

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brought down by the federal government. But Jeffrey Epstein has

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so much power, has so much reach, that he's able

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to operate his disgusting business for all of these years.

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The Epstein case brings the state of corruption in the

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FBI and US justice system to light. Many questions have

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arisen regarding how the case was handled by the FBI

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and how the sweetheart deal was made. Epstein, who died

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by a suspected suicide allegedly in twenty nineteen, was finally

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charged by Florida prosecutors in two thousand and eight when

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he pleaded guilty, they might as well have just gave

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him a slap on the wrist. Right, Listen, folks, we

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gave Jeffrey Epstein a good stern talking to and he's

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not gonna do what he did ever again. Meanwhile, he

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continued to do it after his arrest, after his release,

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and while he was out on work release. So please

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save the bullshit for somebody that's buying it. I have

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had my fill of the cover up here. Corruption in

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the US system enabled Epstein to walk free free years.

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Jeffrey Epstein's case depicts deep corruption in the US court system.

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After being accused of trafficking and abusing young girls, Epstein

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was merely given an eighteen month sentence a slap on

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the wrist for such a heinous crime. Not only did

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Epstein receive a lenient sentence of solicitation of prostitution as

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part of the sweetheart deal, but he only served thirteen months,

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during which he was free much of the time on

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work release. And while he was out on work release,

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according to reports, he was abusing people. So while the

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US government was supposed to be watching him, he was

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abusing people. Now we see the lawsuit from the gymnasts

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against the federal government and the FBI because of Larry Nasser.

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I would love to see the same thing here, because

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the FBI, the government, they really flow it, They really

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really flubbed it, and they shouldn't be given any quarter

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when it comes to this situation. Alexandra Acosta, the US

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Attorney in Miami at the time, is one of the

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key figures who mishandled the Epstein case and granted the

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sweetheart deal. Acosta's office broke the law by not disclosing

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the deal to survivors. Oh, I thought the court said

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something different. Oh, nobody broke the law here. It was improper,

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but the law wasn't broken. You notice how the court

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never holds itself responsible, although, hold, you're responsible. You out

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there with a dimebag of weed in one of these

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repressive ass states, you're gonna go to jail. But these

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dudes can lie and run operations where they're covering for

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pedophiles and it's all good. He had the power to

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lock Epstein away for life, yet allowed the sex offender

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to roam free for another decade, and I agree with that.

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He was part of the problem. But the real problem

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for me goes all the way to the top to

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the DOJ. A guy like Acosta isn't making a decision

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like this in a vacuum. In the summer of twenty nineteen,

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Epstein was arrested in charged with sex trafficking by federal prosecutors.

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Acosta was not the only official that seemed to be

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in Epstein's corner. The office of the New York District

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Attorney Cyrus Vance argued that Epstein's status as a sex

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offender can be reduced. How about that, get old Cyrus

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Vance from the New York Prosecutor's office. You know the

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big mouths who run around and who talk about how

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they're you know, these proper people, and how everybody else

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is an insurrectionist or this or that or the other thing.

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You know, all the divisive rhetoric that they like to use. Meanwhile,

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it's convenient for them to forget that Epstein was active

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right under their noses for decades and these people didn't

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do shit about it. So how about you answer for that,

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mister Cyrus Vance. How about you answer for that all

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of you over at the SDNY and at the New

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York Attorney's office sid Epstein's defenders, a Costa and Vance,

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are in the public realm and should be held accountable

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for their leniency. At least eighty teenagers, most between the

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ages of thirteen and sixteen when abused, came forward with

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similar stories of being lured to Epstein's mansion. Yet both

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Acosta and Vance chose to ignore survivors and side with

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a predator simply because he had money and the power

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of influence, and he was being protected by some pretty

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powerful people. Acosta said about intelligence himself, So who from

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intelligence was involved here? Let's get Costa deposed, put them

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on the bench, Let's see what's up. What intelligence agencies

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approached you. But we can't even get that. And instead

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of people from NPR these other outlets digging deeper into

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why things are being hidden from the public, instead they

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try and attack people in the public. Does that sound

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like the proper way to go about it if you're

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looking for the truth corruption in the prison system. On

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August tenth, twenty nineteen, Epstein was found dead in as

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jail cell. The forensic report showed the cause of death

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is suicide, though many people are skeptical and don't believe

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that Epstein killed himself. Ultimately, two jail guards at the

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Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan were charged with falsifying records.

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The two guards initially claimed to have done their nightly rounds,

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but footage suggests otherwise, and they confess to messing up

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the circumstances surrounding the suicide. And how jail guards did

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not notice has been a source of conspiracy theories and suspicion. Well,

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you can end all of it by being transparent. That's

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how you end conspiracy theory with transparency in truth. But

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when there's a lack of that from the federal government,

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people are left to come up with their own stories,

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their own, you know, reasons for why things happened. And

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of course there's drifters out there that will play on people,

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they'll play on their biases, and they'll come up with

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all kinds of wild conspiracy theories. There's no doubt that happens.

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But if you're going to talk about conspiracy theory and

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people who are pitching them, then speak directly to the

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people who are out here pitching conspiracy theories. Don't malign

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a whole community of concerned citizens who are demanding justice,

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an end to trial and co conspirators. Though Epstein's death

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brings an end to the case, it is not the

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end of the investigations. Epstein's may main co conspirator, His

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longtime girlfriend, Glainne Maxwell, was recently arrested for her role

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in the sex trafficking of miners, and we know the

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story of her now she's in prison for twenty years.

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Other prominent figures who mingled with Epstein and Maxwell are

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also under scrutiny. A survivor accuses Prince Andrew of sex

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with miners and says that Epstein trafficked many of the

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underage girls to have sex with prominent men. Other politicians

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and celebrities who socialize with Epstein are also under the

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public i including President Trump, former President Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey,

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and Woody Allen, to name a few. The Epstein cor

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corruption saga is not over for those who are involved

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need to be held accountable so justice can be brought

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to the survivors. Now that sounds like a tune, I'd

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like to dance to a little bit of justice in

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a world, in a world filled with injustice, sounds like

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a pretty good time to me, all right, folks, that's

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gonna do it for this episode. If you'd like to

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contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapouchi at

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today is from the from Law and Crime. This article

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is from September two, twenty one, twoenty and nineteen, headline

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former Epstein work release guard destroyed PbSO records are the

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smoking gun. This article was authored by Jerry Lamb. And

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again I'm adding a little more meat to that bone, right,

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some more context to what we've been talking about down

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in Palm Beach, and to give you a little bit

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more of an idea on why I think that it's

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going to be a huge focus in this case as

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we move forward, and especially especially if the Eleventh Circuit

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Court of Appeals overturns the whole thing, then it is

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game on for sure. But as of right now, I

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truly believe that the Public Corruptions Unit has Florida directly

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in their crosshairs. A West Palm Beach County Sheriff's deputy

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on Friday divulged first hand information relating to Jeffrey Epstein's

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contra vircial work release program. The deputy who spoke to

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WPTV on the condition of anonymity is the first PBS

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so the deputy to speak out about the office's special

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treatment of the now deceased Epstein. Okay, So if this

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person spoke out to the paper right is speaking out

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to the media on the condition of anonymity, You would

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think that if the Public Corruptions Unit is digging in here,

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that they are going to try and track down whoever

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this person is or others like this person who have

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firsthand knowledge and get them to go on the record

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about what occurred, because it's obvious here that the law

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was broken. It is obvious here that the victims' rights

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were not respected, and it is also obvious here that

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more people besides the ones that have been discussed at length,

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like Acosta, need to be brought to account here. Okay,

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and when we're talking about Florida, Barry Krisher is the

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first person that comes to my mind. When you go

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against the grain, if you rock the boat, if you

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raise your voice about something that you don't think is

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on the up and up. The sheriff's office is very vindictive,

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the deputy told Contact five. And I've heard a lot

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of that about Palm Beach. I've heard that there is

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a lot of that kind of behavior and thought process

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amongst the rank and file, that it's not a good

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idea to rock the boat down there, and you should

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just do what you're told. And that seems to be

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pretty prevalent in sources that I've spoke with who were

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involved in law enforcement, who were tasked with chasing down

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Jeffrey Epstein. When I was in New Mexico and I

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spoke to one of my sources, an ex law enforcement agent,

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they were of the same mind. They were so disillusioned

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with how things were going and with how people like

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Jeffrey Epstein and his rich cohorts were able to finesse

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local politicians and state politicians that they decided to give

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up their lifelong dream of being a law enforcement agent

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after over a decade pursuing it. That's how disillusioned they

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were with what was going on. And you see that

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with a lot of these ex police officers or people

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who speak out who were involved with the Jeffrey Epstein case.

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They just they ran into roadblock after roadblock after roadblock,

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trying to prosecute this guy, trying to get this guy

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behind bars in a manner that is fitting for somebody

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that is as big of a predator and as big

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of a danger to the community as he was. And

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you see it with a lot of these guards that

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speak off the record, a lot of these cops that

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speak off the record, and it's always the same, and

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that story is you cannot go after the political donor class.

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It's like they're their own class of people, right. These

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big wigs, these bagmen, these people that are spending money

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hand over fist on politics. These are the sort of

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people that you just cannot go after in these investigations.

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And that's what I heard from the sources that I've

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talked to, and what you see here from these types

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of articles where we hear from people who were directly

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involved in what was going on and how it was

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almost impossible for them to do their job correctly. The

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deputy then described Epstein's two thousand and eight in two

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thousand and nine work release program a privilege he was

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able to attain despite pleading guilty to soliciting prostitution from

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a minor as being in clear violation of protocol which

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called for deputies to have eyes on Epstein at all times.

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And again, this goes into what I'm talking about with

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the Public Corruptions Unit. If they weren't doing their job

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and they let Epstein roam around free and he was

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allowed to abuse traffic, whatever have you, then I think

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that that would definitely be the sort of thing that

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the Public Corruptions Unit would want to take a look at. Right,

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for starters, when you signed up for that detail, it

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was a plane closed detail, and that almost never ever happens.

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The deputy said, we were told to follow his vehicle

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and our own sheriffs issued vehicle. I was told when

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he went to his house to stay in the driveway.

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I don't know what happened behind closed doors when he

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went in the house and allegedly had lunch. You know,

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he could have been doing anything during that timeframe. That

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is one of the reasons I stopped working the detail.

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And again, if you're one of these rank and file

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police officers, right, I mean, your job is hard enough

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before everything that has just started to occur in this country,

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now forget it. So you can't you have your superiors

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telling you to sit sit in the driveway. You don't

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know what's going on in the house. Anyone could be there.

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What people, What if a girl was brought there before

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you guys got got there. What if he had that

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all set up with his procures and his groomers, and

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there's a deputy in the front while Jeffrey Epstein is

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abusing a girl in the back. That's out of the

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realm of possibility with Jeffrey Epstein. I'm sorry, folks, it

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is not. And these cops, I mean, imagine being this guy.

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Your superiors are like, all right, we need you to

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watch Epstein, but here are all your rules, and they

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give you a rule book that's from the the from

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the floor to the ceiling high. It's just absurd. The

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whole entire case surrounding Jeffrey Epstein is absurd. Everything about

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the way they try to try to quote unquote prosecute

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him the first time around is absurd, and the reactions

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from those involved are most assuredly absurd when they are

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called out on their behavior. When asked too, Epstein consorted

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with while working the deputy said the majority of people

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he remembered seeing were twenty year old females in well

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dressed business attire. Well, I don't know how you could

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tell their twenty year old females. I guess maybe as

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a cop you have a better idea. I guess maybe

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from looking at people's ideas. I don't know. I'm not

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good at that age stuff. When I was young, I

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worked at a casino here in Las Vegas called Treasure Island,

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and they used to have this midway down there where

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they had all of these like carnival type games, and

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they used to have this weight guessing game, and you

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would have to guess people's weight, guess their age, the

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whole nine And I was absolutely atrocious at it. I

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cannot tell you how many stuffed animals I ended up

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giving away on that stupid game, so much so that

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they moved me to a different game. So that goes

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to tell you show you how good I am at

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guessing people's ages. I'm just terrible at it. So maybe

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this cop is a little bit better than I am.

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But I really don't know how you can tell how

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old somebody is these days. I thought it was strange

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that besides me myself and mister Epstein. We were the

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only males in the office. I remember I took note

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of it mentally. The deputy said, what else was unusual

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about it was the fact that he was allowed to

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leave the office and go to his residence to have lunch.

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I've never ever been to a detail where that was

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allowed to happen. So again, these people who put this

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in place, all right, the prosecutors, Dershowitz, left Court Star

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and the rest of them all need to be held

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to account. Why did Jeffrey Epstein get special privileges that

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other inmates did not have, and who was the one

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who initiated it and then who put it into play?

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Those are the questions that you would think the Public

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Corruptions Unit are mulling about. Right now. Multiple women have

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filed lawsuits alleging that they were flown from New York

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to Palm Beach and forced to have sex with Epstein

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during his work release hours. Right there, That alone should

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make the State of Florida conplicit. And the girls who

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were abused when supposedly this animal was under wraps and underguard,

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they should sue the State of Florida. The prosecutors and

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I would go after Dershowitz too. I don't know if

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that would work out or whatever, but I'd go after

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all of those people because they all helped facilitate this abuse,

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even after they knew what Jeffrey Epstein was. How dare

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you let this guy out on work release? How dare

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you not bury him underneath the prison and get rid

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of the keys. The deputy further told Contact five he

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and others were mainly supposed to just sit in front

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of Epstein's property and just log the names of any

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person who came or left the office. However, when Contact

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five requested a copy of the logs kept by deputies

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guarding Epstein, PbSO spokeswoman Terry Barbera confirmed that the records

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were get ready for this folks, destroyed according to their

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public records schedule. Isn't that just convenient, missus Barbera. The

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records are destroyed, the video is destroyed, everything's destroyed. You

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know what's really destroyed, the official narrative. That's what's really destroyed.

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It is quite obvious that their official narrative is was

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and always will be straight up garbage. Jeffrey Epstein was

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protected by the Prosecutor's Office and not only that, because

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of that protection, they helped facilitate the abuse of every

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single girl who was abused while he was supposedly under

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their watch. And they must answer for that. That sounds

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like the smoking gun right there, said the deputy about

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the destruction of the records. That is highly suspect, especially

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with the sheriff's office where they keep records of everything.

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And in this day and age with computers and what

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trilobyte memory sticks and all this other jazz, you don't

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need to destroy no records. Everything that is of public

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concern should be stored and saved. Destroying public records, what

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a bunch of garbage. It must be nice to have

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that to fall back on. Yeah, you know we had

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that stuff, but Joe on his lunch break just put

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that in the shredder ten minutes and it's before you

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got here. What a coincidence? Are these people for real?

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How is it that we have been asleep at the

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wheel for so long? Folks, my fellow Americans, how is

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it that we have not held these people to account?

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I don't know about you, but the days of letting

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this shit slide, the days of not paying attention to

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what these scumbags are up to those days are long over.

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In an email to the news outlet, Barbara said any

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such allegations were false. The allegations you were depicting below

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are factually untrue and or inaccurate. Due to the ongoing

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criminal investigation that is being completed by FDLE, no other

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response regarding these allegations will be given by the sheriff

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or the PbSO. Further, your email will be forwarded to

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the FDLE for further investigation into the deputies Alley negations.

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I just love it. I love it. I love it.

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Due to the ongoing criminal investigation, we're not telling you shit.

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How often do they use that as an excuse? That's

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another thing that needs to be addressed with all of

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this criminal reform we're talking about. Okay, I don't want

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to hear that bs anymore. Oh, Well, this is under investigation,

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so we can't give you any information about it. Well,

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it's really easy for the government to initiate an investigation

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to keep the information from the public, isn't it. And

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we have already established we can't trust the jackanapes that

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run our government, can we? And I don't just mean

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this administration, folks, Okay, I'm talking about all of them collectively.

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So why would we believe anything that Miss Barbara has

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to tell us about procedure or otherwise when it comes

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to the shit show that is the Jeffrey Epstein case.

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And if anybody is going to be looked at through

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the microscope and have a nice bright light shine directly

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on them from the Public Corruptions Unit, I think that

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the perfect destination would be Palm Beach. If you'd like

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to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapucci

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at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby c ap u Cci

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at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me on

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Twitter at Bobby Underscore cap u CCI's up, everyone, and

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welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this look back episode,

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we're going to hear from former police Chief Michael Rider

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of the Palmbeach Police Department. This article was published by

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NBC News and was published on September twentieth of two

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thousand and nineteen. The authors of this piece, Sarah Fitzpatrick

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and Rich ship Hero. Former Palm Beach Police Chief Michael

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Ryder spent years trying to convince state and federal prosecutors

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in Florida to bring serious charges against Jeffrey Epstein. Now,

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the retired lawman wants to tackle a new mission to

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persuade lawmakers to take action to prevent the next Jeffrey

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Epstein from perverting the criminal justice system. Now, Michael Ryder

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was one of the only good guys, if there were

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any good guys, if you will, in the whole entire

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Epstein saga. This guy listened to what these girls said,

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compiled a whole bunch of evidence, and then turn that

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evidence over to the prosecutors. Now, once the prosecutors have

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that evidence, it's up to them to do their right

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thing with it. Right. It's up to them to make

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sure that they get indictments. And then after they get

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the indictment, it's up to them to make sure that

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these people are convicted. So they failed. The prosecutors in

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Florida failed. The police officers in Palm Beach who worked

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this case originally, they did great work. The investigators were

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all over this. They compiled all kinds of evidence. When

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it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, it was the prosecutors once

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again who decided not to pursue it. Epstein found every loophole,

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writer told NBC News as part of a month's long

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Dateline investigation. I want some system in the future that

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this can't happen again. He's not wrong. One of the

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ongoing conversations we've had about these people, all of them,

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is how they navigate loopholes, how they navigate technicalities and

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somehow harness them always to work in their favor. Now,

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I guess that's what they were put into these laws

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for in the first place, right, so the rich people

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can navigate them and not get in trouble when they're

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the ones who gets slapped with them. Like we said

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previously several times, it's like when you have a computer

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programmer who creates software, they leave themselves a little back

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door so they can access it, right, same thing here.

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They know that the small folk us are going to

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be the ones who have to live up to these laws,

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not them, not their friends. Writers said he believes the

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state and federal prosecutors handling of the Epstein case amounts

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to the worst failure of the criminal justice system in

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modern times. Look, he's not wrong. It's the reason we're

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still talking about this right now. It's that impactful, it's

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that important about how the criminal justice system is conducted

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moving forward, we need something that at provides equitable law

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for everybody. If you're a girl from the quote unquote

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other side of the tracks and you say you were

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abused by a rich and powerful man and there's evidence

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to back that up, you should be listened to. And

478
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:21,240
for way too long, these guys had all of their loopholes,

479
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,960
all of their technicalities, and they were able to navigate

480
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:29,240
the criminal justice system by using those and harnessing the

481
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:32,480
relationships that they built with the other so called elite,

482
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:36,480
and it amounted to get out of jail free cards.

483
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,319
The story begins in March of two thousand and five

484
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,720
when the Palm Beach Police Department received a call from

485
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:49,039
the distraught mother of a fourteen year old girl. Now

486
00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:51,279
imagine being the cop on the other of the other

487
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:54,160
end of that phone call. Uh yeah, this is the

488
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,279
Palm Beach Police Department, Sergeant Stanton speaking, Oh my god,

489
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:02,000
my daughters, he's been abused by Okay, hold on, man,

490
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:05,680
slow down. And then you start processing the details and

491
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,079
the name that's being dropped, and all of a sudden,

492
00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:11,559
you know right away you have yourself a big problem.

493
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,359
Because when rich people are accused of stuff like this,

494
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:19,400
they automatically strike back, and there's you know, problems for

495
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,160
the people who bring this stuff up. So I'm sure

496
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,400
the cops weren't too happy to hear the name Jeffrey Epstein.

497
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:28,920
But what I will say about the Palm Beach Police Department,

498
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:31,720
they didn't shy away from it. They did their job.

499
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:38,079
They did their duty. The woman writer recalled said her

500
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,279
underage daughter was having sex with an adult who lives

501
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,839
in a mansion in Palm Beach. Palm Beach police detectives

502
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,839
immediately launched an investigation. Yeah, that's probably the right thing

503
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,680
to do. You got some guy living in a mansion

504
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,079
and he's having a relationship with a fourteen year old girl.

505
00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:59,839
It's probably a good idea to launch an investigation. I

506
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:03,400
don't care who that person is in the mansion. I

507
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,599
don't care if it is the most famous person in

508
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:14,160
the world. You can't be abusing children. Okay, So the

509
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,279
Palm Beach Police Department, they started going hard, and if

510
00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:20,119
you know the story, well, you know that they really

511
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,319
were kicking in some doors and asking some very uncomfortable questions.

512
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:27,920
Do you think it's just a shock, just a coincidence

513
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,599
that this got kicked away to the FEDS and then

514
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,799
back down to the state level. They wanted it to

515
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:37,880
look like, oh yeah, we're gonna take action, We're gonna

516
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,319
kick it up to the feds, but really they never

517
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:49,839
had any intention of the FEDS prosecuting this case. They said,

518
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,359
this is credible, this is believable, said Ryder, speaking in

519
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,960
his first in depth TV interview. Our sense, just from

520
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,680
sitting in the room with the first survivor was that

521
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,319
this is something we've absolutely got to get on. So

522
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,279
right from Jump Street, the Palm Beach Police Department knew

523
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:11,039
that this was something way bigger. And Michael Ryder, the

524
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,960
chief here, he didn't spare any expenses, right, He was

525
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,480
all over this. He had his investigators looking into it,

526
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:22,319
chasing down leads, and what they uncovered, what they found

527
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:27,880
was terrifying. The interview with the initial young girl led

528
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:31,799
to another and another. I have no problem telling you

529
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,000
everything that I know, one of the girls told the

530
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,599
police in a videotaped interview obtained by NBC News. Another

531
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,880
told police that Epstein pulled out this vibrator thing and

532
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,079
he pulled down my panties. Now, remember they only listened

533
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:47,319
to had one girl speak in front of the grand jury.

534
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:50,559
Why if all of these girls came forward with all

535
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,119
of these credible allegations, why only have the one girl

536
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,960
speak in front of the grand jury. That does not

537
00:33:57,119 --> 00:34:03,000
make sense. Investigators were immediately struck by the consistency of

538
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:07,000
the accounts. Writer said. The stories were all the same.

539
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:10,119
He said, they all could describe the house in detail,

540
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,400
they could describe what happened, and they didn't know each other.

541
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,039
It wasn't like all these girls got together and said,

542
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:18,599
all right, we're gonna take down Jeffrey Epstein, the guy

543
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:21,800
who lives in the mansion down the block. Nobody even

544
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,280
knew wo Epstein really was at this point. He wasn't

545
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,559
a celebrity, So that whole line of thinking has always

546
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:31,360
been garbage to me. These were just young kids, high

547
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:38,599
school kids, younger in some cases. But the detectives also

548
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:42,480
observed that the accounts weren't perfectly aligned. That would have

549
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:46,159
been a red flag that the stories were coordinated. Were coordinated,

550
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:51,920
writer said, The investigators noted something else of significance. Many

551
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,400
of the survivors didn't know each other, so there was

552
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:57,559
little chance that they would have come together to concoct

553
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,679
false allegations. And that, of course, was the bedrock of

554
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,159
Epstein's defense. Right, this is all fake. Everyone's looking for

555
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:15,320
a payday. I'm like a piggy bank. Blah blah, blah blah.

556
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,519
Within those first few weeks, the investigation was already bearing fruit.

557
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,159
We realized this was basically a way of life for Epstein,

558
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:26,199
writer said. And it didn't take long to realize that

559
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,719
a lot of people were involved in this. This was

560
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,480
a very prolific sexual predator. Now, listen to what the

561
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,239
chief of police is saying here. Okay, and this is

562
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,719
what I always tell you to do. Don't listen to me,

563
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,800
don't listen to Joe Schmoe who has the other podcast.

564
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,079
Listen to what these policemen say. Listen to what these

565
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:50,199
investigators say, Listen to what the survivors say. There were

566
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,480
a lot of people that were involved in this. This

567
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:56,440
was a very prolific sexual predator. That's not someone making

568
00:35:56,519 --> 00:35:59,639
up a story. That's not some guy who just got

569
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,639
involve the case yesterday. That's Michael Ryder, the man who

570
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:06,639
investigated this as the police chief in Palm Beach, who

571
00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:09,960
blew this shit open. He even knows how much more

572
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:16,599
and how deeper this goes. Detectives picked through Epstein's trash

573
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:21,840
and discovered incriminating messages on scraps of paper documenting phone calls.

574
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:24,880
She is wondering if two thirty is okay? She needs

575
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,079
to stay in school? Read one. Imagine and whoever took

576
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:31,079
that note down is another piece of shit. What do

577
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:34,199
you mean she needs to stay in school? Why are

578
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,599
any school age girls calling Jeffrey Epstein in the first place?

579
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,360
The note it was clear to police. Where about massages

580
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,360
and sex? Writers said? And it just wasn't phone messages?

581
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,400
Rider said. Epstein had flowers delivered to one of the

582
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,599
survivors who was in a performance of performance at her

583
00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:57,119
high school, congratulating her at the end of the performance. Now,

584
00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:00,000
imagine how brazen you must be this high school age

585
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:03,760
girl that you're sexually abusing. She has this high school

586
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:09,480
performance and you send her flowers. Now, I know if

587
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:14,880
I was the dad of that girl, there would be problems, conversations.

588
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,519
Who would be had this dirty son of a bitch

589
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:23,559
was so brazen in his behavior, so brazen in his activity,

590
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,880
that he would send flowers to a girl after her performance.

591
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,239
NBC News has spoken with nearly two dozen women who

592
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,840
alleged that Epstein didn't operate alone. Writer said, the investigation

593
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,920
identified adult women who had sexual contact with underage girls

594
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:47,039
and in some cases performed sexual battery on children. This

595
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:51,960
was a financially successful, smart capable, well networked, and well

596
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,199
financed individual who built an organization around him that supported

597
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,840
his criminal enterprise. Writer said, Now, if you're wondering why

598
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,320
I always talk about Rico and how this isn't a

599
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,840
Rico case, folks, what more do you need? I mean, honestly,

600
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,239
and again, this is another reason why I've chosen the

601
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,920
format that I have chosen to follow along with these articles.

602
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:20,360
That way, everything is uniformed. It's not me making this

603
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,639
stuff up right, or oh this is just a guess

604
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:26,760
by me. This is from curating all of these articles

605
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:30,119
and following all of this evidence and listening to what

606
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:34,719
the key players had to say for me, survivors, lawyers,

607
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,800
and the law enforcement agents on the ground, not the

608
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,800
jerk offs in the back room, not the accostas of

609
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,840
the world, guys like Michael Ryder, And when you listen

610
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,880
to what they have to say, it is rather obvious

611
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:49,800
that this was a criminal enterprise that should have been

612
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,039
ricoed and everybody involved should have seen a prison cell.

613
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,199
But as the months wore on with police building their case,

614
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,440
things began to happen. When detectives armed with a search

615
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,440
warrant entered his home with a video camera. What they

616
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:09,719
found made them suspect he had been tipped off. The

617
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,280
place had been cleaned up. Writers said it wasn't completely

618
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,480
devoid of evidence, but a computer that contained all of

619
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:20,119
the home surveillance camera footage was gone and all the

620
00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:22,760
wires were left hanging there. A rider said, so they

621
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,639
did a dump and pump came in, ripped everything out

622
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:29,599
real quick, all of the monitoring equipment because somebody in

623
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:32,480
the government tipped them off, one of their buddies. But nah,

624
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:40,119
Jeffrey Epstein wasn't connected. He wasn't an asset. After six

625
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:44,039
months of investigation, Riders said, the local police department noticed

626
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:47,760
the shift in attitude from the state prosecutors. Riders said

627
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,119
the prosecutors told him the witnesses were not credible. The prosecutors,

628
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:56,119
writer said, suddenly seemed dismissive of the case and were

629
00:39:56,199 --> 00:40:00,840
uncooperative in approving critical investigative techniques that hindered the Palm

630
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,440
Beach Police Department's investigation. No shit, no shit, they were.

631
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:09,159
These guys were working behind the scenes with Epstein's lawyers

632
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,079
to make sure this went nowhere, or at the very least,

633
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:15,280
make sure Epstein got just a little smack on the ass.

634
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,800
No real jail time, thirteen months in a stockade. Are

635
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,719
you kidding me? Right now? I've had punishments for my

636
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:30,440
parents that were worse than that. Epstein, who had a

637
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,679
massive bankroll and extensive connections, had assembled a high powered

638
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:40,159
team of lawyers, including Kenneth's Starr, Alan Dershowitz, Jack Goldberger,

639
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,320
and Jay Lefkowitz. Around this time, Ryder said the investigation

640
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,000
took another strange turn. Epstein's defense team seemed to know

641
00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:53,719
details about the probe before they were made public. Wha,

642
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,440
what do you know? Just take your pick from Ken Starr,

643
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,719
Alan Dershowitz, Jack Goldberger, or Quitz about who could have

644
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,000
manipulated their influence, their relationships behind the scenes to turn

645
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:08,519
it into something like this. Folks, we talk about it

646
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:11,639
all the time. When you go to Harvard and you

647
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:14,920
get your law degree and then you're practicing law. People

648
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,519
aren't really paying you because you went to Harvard, per se,

649
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:21,000
They're paying you because now you have access to all

650
00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:23,519
of the other scoundrels who went to Harvard, so you

651
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:26,679
have inside connections, You have access, and that's what you're

652
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,119
paying for when you get a high profile lawyer. Your

653
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:31,679
lawyers are going out to eat dinner, and who knows

654
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,239
what else with these prosecutors down here in Florida at least,

655
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:39,280
and at the federal level when we're talking about Mukesy

656
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,159
and the others, And then we wonder why Epstein doesn't

657
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:45,679
get punished like the rest of us would. How many

658
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,719
of you gotten an invite to go play around to

659
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:54,760
eighteen with insert federal official here. We believe that the

660
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,760
content of our probable cause Affidavid eventually, sometime after we

661
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,039
presented it to the States Attorney's office, ended up with

662
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:06,119
the defense. Attorney's writer said, because minute details that nobody

663
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:09,840
else knew that were in those documents were being refuted

664
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:14,639
and contrary information provided by the defense, this writer said,

665
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,199
never happened to me before in my career. And this

666
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,639
is a guy again, he's in Palm Beach dealing with rich,

667
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:23,239
powerful people. Never in his life as he dealt with

668
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,119
something like this, however, but no, continue to tell me

669
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:30,280
that Epstein wasn't getting hooked up, that nobody was there

670
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:33,400
helping him make sure that the walls don't fall in,

671
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,920
and then tell me that this wasn't a Rico case.

672
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:42,000
Rider was so frustrated that he took the unusual step

673
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:45,320
of asking the state Attorney, Barry Krisher, to remove himself

674
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,400
from the case, citing the office highly unusual treatment of

675
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,079
the investigation. When that didn't work, the police chief turned

676
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:57,119
his evidence over to the FBI, and you would think, right,

677
00:42:57,159 --> 00:42:59,719
the g men are coming. This is awesome, all right, perfect,

678
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,800
They're going to save the day. And look, don't get

679
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,039
it twisted again, folks. I'm not talking about your average

680
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:09,960
agent that's working his tailoff or her tailoff to try

681
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,039
and keep us safe. There's a lot of those people

682
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:16,920
that are going after some horrible fucking criminals. My problem

683
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,239
isn't with them. My problem is with the command structure,

684
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:26,199
the bureaucracy that runs this whole entire monolith. They look

685
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,199
at us like we're just numbers, like we don't matter

686
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:31,800
as far as you know, the citizens of this country,

687
00:43:32,039 --> 00:43:35,639
and they feel like they've been given the charter to

688
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,199
do as they wish. And how many times do we

689
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,280
see good agents like or good cops in this instance,

690
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,599
like Mike Ryder gets screwed by prosecutors and these federal

691
00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:51,320
minions at the Department of Justice, those are the people

692
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,400
I have a problem with, not the rank and file.

693
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,239
And they said, this is an easy case. This is

694
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,840
a horrific situation. We'll put him away for the rest

695
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,159
of his life. Writer recalled, that's what the US attorney

696
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,400
assistant US attorney told us as well. But writers renewed

697
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:14,760
enthusiasm didn't last long. In time, it became clear that

698
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,239
the federal probe was stalling. Though he believes the FBI

699
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,960
agents were invested in the case, Writer arranged to meet

700
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,639
face to face with the prosecutor in charge of the case,

701
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:28,960
US attorney Alex I have no spine, bitch, ass Acosta.

702
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,840
Acosta would go on to be named US Labor Secretary

703
00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:38,760
under President Donald Trump. Another brilliant move by old trumpy Huh,

704
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,079
Alex Acosta. I mean, you don't have this conversation with him,

705
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:45,440
and then even if you do, you still go through

706
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,599
with it. There's not a better person in the whole

707
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,840
entire country that could have been Labor secretary. Huh. But

708
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,960
I have to say this I'm thankful that Trump, in

709
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,679
a weird way put him there, because if alex Acosta

710
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,880
wasn't in this position, and there weren't, uh, you know

711
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,440
so a bit of politicism happening around this, we probably

712
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,000
would have never had the second arrest of Epstein, because

713
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would Julie Brown really been as interested if this didn't

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have the political been to it, if it wasn't a

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Trump appointee. Again, maybe I don't know. We can't tell

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one way or the other. The future was what it was,

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But I have a funny feeling that if it wasn't

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for Trump appointing alex Acosta as Labor Secretary in a

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weird way, we would have never been at the point

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we are now. The conversation writer said did not get

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off to a promising start. He basically said in a

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very measured manner that the defense in the case has

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successfully delayed and frustrated their investigation and their prosecution of

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the case. Writer said, so, when's the last time the

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federal government has been frustrated and had their case delayed?

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Zero chance? It doesn't have unless they wanted to happen.

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But Rider left Acosta's office hoping for the best. After

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the prosecutor told him they were moving forward with the investigation.

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I left that meeting thinking, this guy hopefully is going

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to do his job. Writer said, it didn't turn out

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the way a rider had hoped. In two thousand and seven,

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Acosta made the decision not to charge Epstein in federal court. Instead,

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he sent the case back to the local prosecutors. Now, again,

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I don't think this was a costa on his own.

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You can't make this decision as a mid level bureaucrat.

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This was a decision that was made on high and

737
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Acosta was just the trigger man. Ryder was crushed. The

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same office that seemingly refused to pursue Epstein aggressively was

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now back in charge. And again you could say, oh,

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this is a coincidence. It's just you know, the way

741
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things happen sometimes. But there sure are a lot of

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coincidences around Jeffrey Epstein. Isn't there the cameras, the missing emails,

743
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all of this nonsense. At what point is it not coincidence?

744
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And is it just what it is? Acosta agreed to

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sign a non prosecution deal that ended the federal sex

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crimes investigation and spared Epstein the prospect of serving several

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years in prison. Instead, Epstein pleaded guilty to state charges

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for soliciting a minor for prostitution and served thirteen months

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at Palm Beach County Jail. Epstein was also required to

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register as a sex offender and pay his restitution to

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his survivors. Eh didn't have to register in New Mexico. Huh,

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I've never seen anything like it, Ryder said. It was

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extremely unusual and disappointing. Rider said he believes the result

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would have been different had the victims been under age

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boys that would have shocked the senses more. Writer said,

756
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somehow this hits in a different place, that they were

757
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young women on the way to being women, And he's

758
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,920
not really wrong about that. Yeah, how many people have

759
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,719
set these girls up as prostitutes? Or why do they

760
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,840
keep coming back the brain dead narrative that they wanted

761
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,519
this to happen? You know, the same folks that will say, oh, well,

762
00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:24,840
she was wearing a mini skirt, so way more nuanced

763
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than that. When you have all of the different things

764
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that went in to grooming these girls and normalizing all

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00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,840
of this, it's a whole different ballgame. But he's not wrong.

766
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:37,400
Boys would have really shocked the emotions and shocked the senses.

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00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:43,800
Epstein was released from jail in the summer of two

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thousand and nine. The case scene behind him until twenty

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and eighteen, when The Miami Herald published an expose highlighting

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the government's kid glove treating of a man accused of

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00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:59,039
praying on dozens of underage girls. Acosta defended the way

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his office handled he described as a complicated case. We

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believe we proceeded appropriately, Acosta said during a July twenty

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nineteen press conference. We did what we did because we

775
00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:13,360
wanted to see Epstein go to jail. So you mean

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to tell me the federal government couldn't have done that

777
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,280
if you really wanted to see and again, let me

778
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,519
back up, you might want to see him go to jail.

779
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:23,639
We want to see him go to prison, okay, And

780
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,639
you not running the federal charges, you and your bosses

781
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,079
taking the step back that made sure that Epstein was

782
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:35,079
never going to federal prison. But Acosta resigned as litt

783
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,400
oh excuse me. Acosta defended the way his office handled

784
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what he described as a complicated case. We believed we

785
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:48,559
proceeded appropriately, Acosta said during a July twenty nineteen press conference.

786
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We did what we did because we wanted to see

787
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,280
Epstein go to jail. But Acosta resigned as Labor Secretary

788
00:49:55,320 --> 00:50:00,000
two days later amid mounting criticism. Krisher, the former state attorney.

789
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He didn't return a request for comment from MDC News,

790
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but he relates a statement in July defending his office

791
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and pushing back against Acosta, suggesting that state prosecutors were

792
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:15,800
driving the case. Nobody wants to take responsibility ever, right.

793
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:19,920
It's always somebody else's fault. It's always someone else who

794
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:25,039
did something wrong. In reality, the Feds fucked up and

795
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:31,920
the state fucked up. If mister Acosta was truly concerned

796
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,760
with the state's case and felt he had to rescue

797
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,199
the matter, he would have moved forward with the fifty

798
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,800
three page indictment that his own office once drafted. Chrisher

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said Epstein was arrested on fresh charges in July. New

800
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,559
York federal prosecutors charged him with its sex trafficking and

801
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:53,440
conspiracy in a case that featured similar allegations to those

802
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,119
a decade earlier. Never far enough, right, How again, how

803
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,639
isn't this rico considering not what I said to you,

804
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,719
but what Michael Ryder laid out to you just previously

805
00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:08,960
in this article. Epstein pleaded not guilty, but he committed

806
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,920
suicide in his federal jail cell last month. The death

807
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,280
left Rider thinking about the survivors and their lost chance

808
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,599
to see him held accountable. I feel so badly for

809
00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:23,199
the survivor's, writer said, I realize that there's a catharsis

810
00:51:23,199 --> 00:51:27,079
in confronting Epstein, and they'll never have that opportunity. But

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he hopes that the entirety of the case will lead

812
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:33,320
to systemic change. The criminal justice system needs to learn

813
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,639
from this and make sure it can't happen again, said Ryder,

814
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,519
who still lives in Palm Beach where he runs a

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00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:43,800
security consulting firm. Rider wants to see legislation that bars

816
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,119
miners from being labeled as prostitutes in the justice system.

817
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,559
He also called on Florida lawmakers to close loopholes that

818
00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:54,840
allow people like Epstein to get away with misdemeanors for

819
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,719
child sex crimes. I mean, is he wrong? Does a

820
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,960
cop a former cop have to call for this? Why

821
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,840
wouldn't our politicians, the ones who make the laws, do

822
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,760
it themselves. Oh, they're the ones who put this law

823
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,199
on the books. Oh, that's right. If you look at

824
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:15,039
the first dozen victims and their accounts of what happened

825
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:17,440
to them, it's clear to me he was coached by

826
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,159
a lawyer on how to only commit a misdemeanor. Writer said,

827
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if you're a member of the legislature and you're listening

828
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,480
to this right now, fix this. It needs to be fixed.

829
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,280
And I'm guessing that lawyer. I don't have proof of this,

830
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,239
but I'm guessing it was Darren Endyke. Writer also delivered

831
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,480
a message to all of those girls whose lives were

832
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:41,519
upended by a middle aged sexual predator with endless resources

833
00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:45,360
available to him. I don't have any contact with the survivors,

834
00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:48,159
and if they're listening now, I'm embarrassed for the way

835
00:52:48,199 --> 00:52:51,400
the criminal justice system treated them back then and Florida

836
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,239
writer said, but I want them to know that not

837
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,719
every part of the system failed them. We did our

838
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,000
job in Palm Beach and at the Palm Beach Police Department,

839
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,559
and everything that happens here should lead to in the future,

840
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,039
if any of these things happen again to some other victim,

841
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,159
that the system won't fail them. And I'd like to

842
00:53:11,199 --> 00:53:14,400
believe that, but man, I have a hard time believing it, Folks.

843
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,880
I am very cynical about our justice system, as you

844
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,760
all know, and the more I see, the more cynical

845
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,199
I become. So. While I hope that Michael Ryder's plea

846
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:30,800
will find its way to the ears of our legislators,

847
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for some reason, I still have my doubts. If you'd

848
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like to contact me, you can do that at Bobby

849
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,320
Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo b b Y

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c ap u Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can

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00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:52,760
also find me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore c ap

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u Cci. The link that we discussed can be found

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