WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.160 Think about it. Every hiring decision is a choice that 2 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:07.519 can make or break a team, a culture, and even 3 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:11.960 an entire company. So how do we make the right choice? Hi, 4 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:15.919 I'm doctor Mickey, and welcome to Inside the Mind of Hiring. 5 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:21.399 Here will uncover the psychology and strategy behind effective hiring, 6 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:24.960 because the right fit isn't just about skill or experience. 7 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:29.920 It's about understanding people, their motivations, their strengths, and the 8 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:34.320 shadows of their shortcomings. Together, we'll tackle the tough questions, 9 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:37.640 how do we look beyond bias? How do we find 10 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:41.359 the qualities that make people not just qualified hires, but 11 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:45.640 the right hires. This is about identifying leaders who drive success, 12 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:51.039 lift morale, and actualize a company's vision. Inside the Mind 13 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:59.280 of Hiring starts now. Hi everyone, this is Inside the 14 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:03.439 Mind of high and my name is doctor Mickey Feinberg, 15 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:08.760 a business psychologist here in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania. So 16 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:16.640 today's episode is titled a Leadership Lullaby HM. This episode 17 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:21.439 is a continuing commentary in our recent series on questionable 18 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:28.040 leadership practices. Last week we talked about leaders sabotaging leaders 19 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:32.439 inadvertently or advertently, and we talked a week before about 20 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:38.519 blind leadership. They're seeing, but they're not seeing. In some cases, 21 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:43.879 leaders may sleep at the switch, so to speak, even 22 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:48.959 when they have a great opportunity to capitalize on strong momentum. 23 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:53.400 It's amazing to me that leaders might sleep when they 24 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:57.519 have an opportunity to capitalize on strong momentum. So I'm 25 00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:00.200 going to ask doctor Patt about that soon. But he's 26 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:05.079 an example. Was the WNBA All Star Week. As many 27 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:08.719 of you know, the arrival of Caitlin Clark to the 28 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:13.759 WMBA in twenty twenty two brought a major increase in 29 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:19.759 fan interest and game attendance, media coverage, and league and 30 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:23.560 team revenues. Another she's another star. 31 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:25.280 Page. 32 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:29.759 Bill Becker's of Connecticut or Yukon, as we most of 33 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:34.879 us know, has been complimenting veterans with great play and 34 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:38.599 likely adding strong value to the league as well. And 35 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:41.719 you know, as a player, the league's recent All Star 36 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:46.159 Game was a good opportunity to showcase its best players 37 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:52.479 and further accelerate its good fortune. So what has been 38 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:57.120 the commentary on the All Star Game during All Star Week? 39 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:02.159 You know that's the main event, star game itself. Did 40 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:06.719 the event truly add value to the league's profile or 41 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:11.199 did it stall its momentum. It was likely most responsible 42 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:14.840 for the game's impact, and what could these principles learn 43 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:20.080 and change in future showcase events? So this is what happened. 44 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:23.039 This is what happened, and I think doctor Patt knows, 45 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:26.000 so I'm just going to what she would say. It 46 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:28.639 was a high energy I don't want to be a curmudgeon, 47 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:34.240 doctor Pat. It was a high energy and exciting week overall, 48 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:39.919 with complimentary events, just like in the men's All Star week, 49 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:43.599 the you know, the three point composition, the skills competitions, 50 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:48.199 and the Chicago Arena was packed with loyal and vocal 51 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:53.919 fans and the media was definitely showed up. So it 52 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:58.639 was important it was described as a you know, celebratory 53 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:03.599 and fun atmosphere. This situation was ripe for high mark 54 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:08.080 high marks and a great impact. However, the All Star 55 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:16.360 game itself brought mixed reviews at best. A key descriptor 56 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:20.439 of the game was the Keystone Cops. The Keystone Cops. 57 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:26.199 Other than some exciting highlights, the play was haphazard and 58 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:31.959 fraught with both defensive and offensive sloppiness. When I when 59 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:35.480 I viewed excerpts of the game, Doctor Patt. I was 60 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:40.439 laughing out loud, you know at this this basically this 61 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:45.800 comedy routine. And even before I saw the print media 62 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:49.079 and electronic media that said it was the Keystone Cops, 63 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:55.240 I automatically described it as the Keystone Cops. This display 64 00:04:55.399 --> 00:05:00.319 was not at all congruent with the talented players and 65 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:05.279 a league that was on a roll. So, doctor Pat, 66 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:08.839 who would you say and why is the most responsible 67 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:14.759 for this unfortunate lallaby or leadership lallaby and missed opportunity? 68 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:17.000 Uh? Was it? 69 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:18.079 Okay? 70 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:19.959 I want to step back for a minute, and I 71 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:21.759 want to start where you start. I want to give 72 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:27.120 Caitlin Clark and Asia Wilson a little kudos. Congratulations to 73 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:30.680 both Clark and Wilson for again I think I don't 74 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:33.639 even know if this isn't now another record, but uh, 75 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.399 you're going to see a clip or video of Jessica 76 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:39.879 is going to put up of Caitlin Clark and becoming 77 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.399 Eastern Player of the Week, and as well, side by 78 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:45.399 side there's a video of Asia Wilson. So I want 79 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:49.519 to really caveat this because we are seeing great play. 80 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.199 You know, they are not the only two that are 81 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:56.839 playing great, but they're the information about their greatness is 82 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:01.000 what is falling short. You know, if Caven Clark has 83 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:03.360 a game like she had the other night, which now 84 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:07.199 allegedly is being reported she was not well, I mean, 85 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:09.600 I don't know what to believe anymore, but somebody made 86 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:13.360 a statement out there on X that she really wasn't well. 87 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.759 When I watched her, she didn't look well playing, she 88 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:20.800 didn't look like herself. But yet she comes under criticism 89 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:24.600 when you get Becker's that plays a game. And by 90 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:27.199 the way, Becker's is now playing on the Dallas Wings. 91 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:29.839 And just a little note to you all on the 92 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:33.160 Dallas Wings, y'all need to look at what Texas just did. 93 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:37.519 They banned THHC folks, just saying, just giving you a 94 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.480 little insight right there on that you're playing in Dallas, 95 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:43.160 you better be checking your stuff. But what I want 96 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:45.319 to say is we got to give these two credit 97 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:48.920 and we have to really look at the face of 98 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:52.319 the league. I reacted this morning to an article that 99 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:54.680 came out and I'm hoping I can find that article 100 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:58.920 so I give it full discredit in the show. And 101 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:01.480 it was an article that called Paige Becker's the real 102 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:04.600 face of the lead, not Caitlin Clark. And my response 103 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:09.079 to that was twofold. And we're going to talk about 104 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:13.879 why leadership does start at the top. There is no 105 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:16.800 question in your mind or mind. We know this, Mickey. 106 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:19.839 How many interventions have we done where we work with 107 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:22.480 department heads and directors and we made good work and 108 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:25.199 then the CEO comes in he blows three years of 109 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:25.800 work right? 110 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:27.879 Or she does right? 111 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:30.560 But what I want to say, yeah about the. 112 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.079 Ads from the head right. 113 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:35.120 But here's what I want to say about the All 114 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:38.120 Star Game. I can't tell you how many people out 115 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:42.560 there are writing, have have don shows, YouTube posts about 116 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:47.519 how bad this was, how awful this It was terrible, 117 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:48.879 It was terrible. 118 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:49.519 It was. 119 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:52.040 Let me tell you what broke my heart. I have 120 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:55.600 thirty six years in recovery and I can spot people 121 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:59.800 that had a little night out the night before. I mean, 122 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:03.439 I'm not kidding. Does something about going down this road 123 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:05.399 where you could see somebody walking down the street and 124 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:07.399 you're thinking, oh, don't remember to get near his breath 125 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:10.560 for her breath And then the video comes out from 126 00:08:10.600 --> 00:08:14.759 the Stubbuds and they do live streaming all weekend. So 127 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:18.079 I'm going to get to the leadership question. But let's 128 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:21.879 talk about the players. Let's talk about what happened. Do 129 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:28.199 I blame Angel Reese and Page Beckers for their bad borderline? 130 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:35.120 Really ridiculous, almost illegal behavior when you're flashing four hundred 131 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:39.639 dollars bills up in the year on a video making 132 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:45.080 a bet against each other, right, your team, my team 133 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:48.120 and Land are going to be your team, Dallas, And 134 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:51.519 you are doing that, Page and you're doing that Angel, 135 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:55.759 and then you're asked later did you do that? You're like, 136 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:58.720 all cute, so yeah, winking at the camera. No you didn't, 137 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:06.919 you lied. And then leadership comes along. Kathy e that commissioner. 138 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:14.799 The lullaby of leadership, right, we could do a whole lullaby. 139 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:18.279 And what does she does in a what does she 140 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:21.240 do in a pivotal wone? So here's the problem, doctor McKee. 141 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.480 This is a league that wants to be taken seriously 142 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:26.440 but is not willing to play by the rules. Jessica, 143 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:28.759 I want you to put up that graphic. This is 144 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:32.200 what's being said about this league. What do they do 145 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:35.799 or not do They don't play fairly, they don't treat 146 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:40.440 people the same. But here's the worst egregious thing. You've 147 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:46.080 ever seen. They take that gambling video. Everybody think Pete 148 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:49.639 Rose for a minute. They take that gambling video and 149 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:58.159 the way post it, and they have no consequences because jokingly, jokingly, 150 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.679 So let me just go to let me just go 151 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:05.639 to the point now, if you want to be taken 152 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:11.320 seriously at all, if you really do, if you want 153 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:18.000 to play in the arena like everybody else, let's start 154 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:27.279 with the NCAA. The NCAA has take no prisoners, absolutely 155 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:34.519 no zero tolerance for what they did. So this is 156 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:38.759 what I want to say. Calling this a joke did 157 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:43.440 not make it not gambling. But Kathy did continues to 158 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:49.120 do that comments about it. But I will tell you 159 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:54.200 if they had done it under the NCAA rules and guidelines, 160 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:59.879 the NCAA would have ended them. It would have been gone. 161 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:03.679 But that's not my point, you know, doctor Miker. Let's 162 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:06.360 talk about this from a leadership perspective. Have you ever 163 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:11.080 worked with senior C suite leaders? Right, and somebody does 164 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:15.639 something egregious, I mean really egregious. Right, Let's say you 165 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:22.279 say something slur, a racial slur or a gender slu 166 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:24.360 I'm telling you, Linda and I used to fire people 167 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:26.799 left and right for the phone company for this, and 168 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:31.159 you're jokingly in the bar. Oh yeah, you know what, 169 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:36.639 not even on work premises, jokingly you're gone. Right, So 170 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:41.399 Kathy Engelbert and the w NBA are giving joking about 171 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:47.320 gambling a pass. So Kathy, this is to you, Leader, Leader, 172 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:52.159 lullaby Champion. What you're gonna do? I'm telling you, there's 173 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:55.879 a little song about that. What you're gonna do when 174 00:11:55.960 --> 00:12:00.759 somebody says something jokingly about somebody's race, What you're going 175 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:05.399 to do when somebody says something jokingly about the gay community. 176 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:08.600 What you're going to do? What you going to do 177 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:12.720 when somebody says something jokingly about you or a coach? 178 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:18.440 You see, because now you have made joking on a 179 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:24.720 disastrous thing that any other sports vehicle would have banned people, 180 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:28.840 gotten rid of them, investigative. You made it a joke. 181 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.000 And you know what you just did. You made the 182 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:37.360 w NBA a joke. That's what you did, untying, is 183 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:41.799 that WNBA a joke? Because joking about gambling and then 184 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:43.799 following up with the joke that I got to check 185 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.519 my little PayPal account or whatever the hell that account was, 186 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:50.480 and continuing the joke, you just laughing it up. And 187 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:52.159 I'm telling you so. 188 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:57.200 So basically she's by not saying anything doing anything, she's 189 00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:01.240 tolerating it, letting it happen. Oh no, she's trying to say, 190 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:04.080 let me back the standard. Right. 191 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:06.039 Oh no, I got to back you up. That is 192 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:11.559 not what happened. They're just saying because it was jokingly done. 193 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:17.000 See that's the problem. See she could have forgiven them 194 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:20.039 out of ignorance, or she could have oh they missed 195 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:25.960 the training. But what she said was because they were 196 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:30.840 joking about gambling. Oh, because you're joking about that racial slur. Oh, 197 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:35.480 because you're joking about that LGBTQ trans slur. He joked 198 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:38.960 about it. So she has sent a whole precedence now 199 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:44.759 for anyone that comes forward because compared to gambling. And 200 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:47.039 I sent a post this morning, and I sent her 201 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:51.360 the NCAA guidelines on what happens. Do you know how 202 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:55.960 many players jokingly were sent to jail? How many athletes? 203 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:59.200 There's this one guy, his name is Davis. He was 204 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:02.679 joking at the airport. I'm not kidding. He joked to 205 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:05.559 the airlines. Right, he got up, he got up to 206 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:07.759 the window. He said, he said to the person behind 207 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:10.240 the desk in which she asked him about the packing. 208 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:12.480 He joked and he said, hey, did you did you 209 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:16.320 pack the bomb? Holy crap? They took him away on 210 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:18.879 the spot for what joking. 211 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:22.799 Right about something about something? It should be a lot 212 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:27.519 more serious. Basically, so you know, well, let me tell 213 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:28.000 you something. 214 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:30.240 Tell me about what you think. I want to know. 215 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:35.720 The game was a joke. That's you know, you're saying 216 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:39.159 that they joke about things. They joke about people inappropriately. 217 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:42.480 They joked about the game. The game, which was the 218 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:46.000 showcase event, was a joke. You mentioned to me. 219 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:52.279 That how far this went. They even posted this gambling 220 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:58.120 thing in Spanish and a legit like what do you think, angel, 221 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:00.600 we are not going to read this. Some of us 222 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:02.480 do speak of a little bit of Spanish. What you 223 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:05.159 think We're not going to read that. But it's not 224 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:07.559 even the game. So let me tell you, as a 225 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:12.960 person in recovery, my heart broke when I saw the 226 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:16.840 level of alleged Okay, I gotta say alleged, even though 227 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:23.279 there's videos of it, Alleged of drinking right, alleged of gambling, 228 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:27.440 alleged of really bad play. I mean, you don't miss 229 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:30.399 a layup unless there's something physically wrong. 230 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:31.919 They missed a lot of layups. 231 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:36.399 But it breaks my heart and I'm saying leadership is absent. 232 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:39.159 So you know what would have made this different. Leadership 233 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:41.639 would have taken home. And by the way, all they 234 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:44.240 showed with pictures of the general managers and the team, 235 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:48.440 where the hell were the two coaches? Why didn't those 236 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:51.039 two coaches set a standard and say you are not 237 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:54.399 coming on this court if you are hungover, honey, and 238 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:56.440 you don't pass a breathalyzer test. 239 00:15:57.080 --> 00:15:58.279 Right, Why didn't they. 240 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:01.200 Set a standard? You know what the differences. 241 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:05.720 They even what you said is even though they're grown ups, 242 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:09.600 they should have some of the NCAA practices and policies. 243 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:11.759 I'm just telling you what the NCAA is. If you 244 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:13.279 want to play in the big leagues, you got to 245 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:16.399 act like a big league. You don't act like Kathy 246 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:21.159 jokingly made you a joke. You'd a joke. And here's 247 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:23.559 what I want to say. Let's talk about this because 248 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:28.559 the leadership could shape these young people. And people want 249 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:32.159 to get all over Caitlyn Clark's cakes for her emotions 250 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:35.000 on the court. I think some I think I'd love 251 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:37.840 to sit down with Caitlyn Clark and become her emotional coach. 252 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:40.879 I know exactly how to help her mentor her how 253 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:43.519 to control those emotions on the court. I would know 254 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:46.200 exactly how to do that. Who in the world is 255 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:50.879 doing it? Not Stephanie White because allegedly stuff's coming out 256 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:54.120 about her. I mean, what the heck this is like? 257 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:58.919 This is worse than the worst Joker movie that came out. 258 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:01.080 But it is a leader ship nicky. 259 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:09.119 Of course, it's it's why didn't why didn't she expect 260 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:13.559 and advocate for you know, let's showcase the game for 261 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:19.519 a second. Why didn't she expect and advocate top flight play? 262 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:22.440 It could have been. It would have been just as 263 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:26.599 celebratory and fun as the slot that they put out. 264 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:30.759 Okay, uh, you're going to look at somebody. I used 265 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:33.839 to play softball. I got had more softball trophies, coach 266 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:37.160 more softball teams here in Jersey, and I got to 267 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:40.480 tell you when we went out the night before, we 268 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:43.400 couldn't even see the ball. So I want to just say, 269 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:48.920 when you are hungover, intoxicated, out all night, you are 270 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:50.640 never going to be able to show up. 271 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:55.440 Well exactly exactly, Hey, Pat, I thought you would, you 272 00:17:55.480 --> 00:17:57.599 would have fun after the game at the bar. 273 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:04.000 Either way, I'm just saying we never did drink before 274 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:06.839 a game. That was never gonna happen. On my watch, 275 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:08.359 it was never going to happen. I mean, you can't 276 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:11.119 stop people. They're just in the car drink and beer themselves. Yeah, 277 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:14.039 but clearly after the game. The problem was when we 278 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:16.039 were in tournaments and you get drunk after the game, 279 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:17.119 then you got to play the next game. 280 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:19.079 Oh well, yeah, that's some things. 281 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:23.240 But look, here's leadership at its worst. There was no 282 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:27.920 integrity risk. The league determined that this was trash talk. Okay, 283 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:30.839 come on, now, do you know if you're going to 284 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:34.160 say that's trash talk between friends, then you are not 285 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:37.240 going to monitor be able to monitor any kind of 286 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:39.680 trash talk. You're not gonna I. 287 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:42.799 Mean, where is the show for some reason, some reason 288 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:47.559 you know that that that that basically is we're going 289 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:50.240 to act like men, and they're really not acting like 290 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:55.359 men because in men's professional sports, you know, people do it, 291 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.000 but they you know, they're not. It's kind of frowned 292 00:18:58.079 --> 00:19:00.720 upon by the league. They just don't doce it to that. 293 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:04.720 They deal with that, they deal with that at least 294 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:07.279 behind the scenes, they deal with that. They don't tolerat 295 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:07.880 it that much. 296 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:10.680 They don't. I mean, it's really clear. All of the 297 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:13.039 critics that have come out have made a point that 298 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:16.279 any male athlete in the NBA or NFL joked about 299 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:18.200 a four hundred dollars side bet on their own game 300 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:21.400 and then brag about it collecting the money after Angel, 301 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:26.319 they would likely face immediate suspension, massive league investigations. And 302 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:30.119 once a league investigates you, Okay, So here's what I 303 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:32.200 want to say. This is what I said in my post. 304 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:37.759 I said, newsflash, are you people forgetting that the Congress 305 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:45.640 is watching you? Did you forget that? Hello, Olivia Miles, 306 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:48.720 you tripping up Caitlin Clark in the game the other night? 307 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:51.200 Did you really have to do that? Don't you know 308 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:54.279 that is out there in the congress people's hands right now? 309 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:56.880 You putting your leg out with the Clark and then 310 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:00.240 the other one is punching Cunningham in the face. Know 311 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:03.119 that these people they're not only watching you, they are 312 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:04.440 copied on posts. 313 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:10.920 Yeah, it's a it's a it's it's my heart is broken. 314 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:12.759 Because I am a sports fan, I have been an 315 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:16.440 advocate for women in sports all my life, all my life, 316 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:20.680 all my life, and as a matter of fact, I 317 00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:22.960 was one of the first people in my sport to 318 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:27.640 demand the play in an open championship because women weren't 319 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:31.279 allowed to. But you see, somebody made a post the 320 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:35.640 other day and they said Kathy should be replaced with 321 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:39.640 Condal Liza Rice, And I said, you know, I'm not 322 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:41.880 sure I ever voted for Canda Lisa Rice or anything, 323 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:44.000 but she's got my vote. 324 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:46.279 Wow. 325 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:52.400 Why don't we look at this leader and say you 326 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:53.000 got to go? 327 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:57.920 Yeah, I mean yeah, why don't they Why don't they 328 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:03.079 let her go and and and recruit somebody and hire 329 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:08.119 somebody that's going to uphould standards, standards of play and 330 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:13.519 standards of conduct. You know, it's like, why is she 331 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:16.559 letting everybody get away with? Does she act like that 332 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:18.279 it Deloyd? I doubt it. 333 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:22.039 Well, she has to be reminded of a few things. 334 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:24.680 Let's lead people with, kid, She's got to be reminded of. 335 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:28.680 This is called the this is what she has to 336 00:21:28.759 --> 00:21:32.480 be reminded of. You want to get the acknowledgment that 337 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:35.160 the men get. Here's what I want to say to you, Kathy, 338 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:40.440 Trevor Davis Airport incident a joke. They call this. He 339 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:42.839 joked at the ticket line. He was arrested at on 340 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:46.960 the spot. There was no kidding and there were severe consequences. 341 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:57.960 Peter Freesmer Hockey, Lando Norris, Gilbert Arnus arrest on probation. 342 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:02.440 These are people cases that the leagues that the w 343 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:05.960 n b A might choose to be leaning based on 344 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:09.160 their own public relation blenders. Both sports leagues and federal 345 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:14.599 legal system generally maintained zero tolerance and Kathy, you cannot 346 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:16.839 hide from this. It's not going to go within No. 347 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:21.160 Yes, yeah, I believe. I believe the coaches should have 348 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:25.000 stepped up. I believe the players they're key stakeholders in this. 349 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:30.079 They should have generally definitely stepped up and proactively. They 350 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:32.279 should have gotten together and said, how what do we 351 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:34.720 want to what do we want to show people? What 352 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:37.039 do we want to advocate out there? How do we 353 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.000 want to display ourselves? And I don't think anybody made 354 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:45.240 them ask those questions and answered them as a group, uh, 355 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:48.720 and challenge them if they wanted this to be a drunken, 356 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:54.160 fun sloppy kind of display. I think it's it's if 357 00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:58.880 they want to go to the NBA standards. They got 358 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:02.000 to stop start acting like they're serious about what they're doing, 359 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:05.960 and it still could be fun and exciting and celebratory, 360 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:07.119 you can come by. 361 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:09.720 They are pasted the point of no return unless they 362 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:12.000 do something about the gambling. Mickey, I'm just going to 363 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:14.119 tell you that, right, well, they are past the point 364 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:18.640 of credibility. You're saying they're past the point. They're past 365 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:23.559 the point, and this they got there, passed the point 366 00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:26.000 of any credibility. But here's what I want to say, 367 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:32.039 despite a letter from Congress around Caitlyn Clark, what we 368 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:34.720 saw in the Lynx game the other night, the hit 369 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:38.079 in the face to Cunningham, the tripping by Olivia Miles 370 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:42.319 of Caitlin Clark, no fouls call, and Stephanie White, are 371 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:44.920 you on sleeping pills or something that you can't get 372 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:47.799 up from the bench and jump up and down? Can't 373 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:49.680 you say something? Do something? 374 00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:53.119 And she doesn't see it. She doesn't see it, so 375 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:55.720 she doesn't respond to it. She says she doesn't see it, 376 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.559 so she she's basically admitting she's blind. 377 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:01.920 Well, one last thing, the clip of that trip, there 378 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:06.680 is a referee looking right at it. This is not integrity, 379 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:10.440 and there isn't a leader in the bunch. 380 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:17.839 No, I mean the players aren't taking enough accountability. The 381 00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:23.759 coaches are definitely not, and I would doubt that the 382 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:28.160 team executives and owners are taking you know, much responsibility 383 00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:29.119 for this is I got. 384 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:31.839 To tell you something. If somebody made a racial or 385 00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:36.839 an LGBT slur or sum slur against me jokingly, there 386 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.799 is no you know what, no such thing as a 387 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:43.519 joke when it comes to harming other people or breaking 388 00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:48.920 laws and systems. Yes, officer, I was jokingly playing and 389 00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:53.279 going through that red light. Oh laugh with me about that. 390 00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:56.119 Oh wait, I jokingly was trying to see how fast 391 00:24:56.200 --> 00:25:01.799 my car went. Oh chakari richardson what the heck is? 392 00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:06.480 When I'm you know, to me, it's the end result 393 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:09.839 of compromising standards. And if you if you get into 394 00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:16.920 that mode, which is compromising you know, normal rules of engagement, 395 00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:21.279 professional rules of engagement, then you're not going to be 396 00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:25.799 as an app to compromise standards, standards of play, standards 397 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:31.079 of work. And that's what's being allowed to happen. So 398 00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:35.960 I think somebody from the league in a power position 399 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:39.079 has to acknowledge this or this league is going to 400 00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:41.160 be not taking advantage of opportunities. 401 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:43.359