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Shop now at relrifetechnology dot com. 25 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:57.799 That's realrife Technology dot com. 26 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.439 Hello and welcome to the show. 27 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:06.680 This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan, 28 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:09.719 I'm Jaggers, and today we have a very special first 29 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:13.759 time guest. It is Tyler from the Fittest Flat Earth 30 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:18.199 or It's well. I originally found you on Instagram, but 31 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:21.840 it seems like you really been hammering out not only. 32 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:24.400 Flat Earth topics, but really just a lot. 33 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:29.560 Of different conspiracies, especially people acting like there are other 34 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:33.560 people dare we say, with face masks and whatnot. Very 35 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:36.560 very fun rabbit hole to go down on your Instagram page. 36 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:39.000 So welcome to the show for the first time, Tyler. 37 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:42.240 Thank you, And yeah, I if they've lied to us 38 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:45.400 about it, I'm digging into it. And Instagram is honestly 39 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:49.439 probably my smallest platform. They for five months, they literally 40 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:52.639 told me we are not going to allow your material 41 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:55.000 to be seen by anyone new So if you followed 42 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:57.599 me already, people could see my stuff. But I didn't 43 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:00.000 go up one tick of a follower for five month, 44 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:04.479 So that's slowed down my progress a little bit. Facebook, 45 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:06.960 I'm actually really blowing up on lately. I think Facebook 46 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:11.639 is quickly becoming actually the best platform for conspiracy and 47 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:14.800 truth and TikTok is really where I kind of got 48 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:15.280 my start. 49 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:18.919 Wow, because we got canned off of Facebook, we got 50 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:19.639 canned off of. 51 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:21.120 YouTube, Instagram. 52 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:24.680 We haven't had any issues with although I feel the 53 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:28.240 same way that you know, the followers are definitely not 54 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.960 rising up. And it's weird because I'll go on there 55 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:33.560 and I'll see every day, you know, it goes up followers, 56 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:34.639 but the numbers stays the same. 57 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:36.520 I'm like, what is going on here? 58 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:40.400 So you're adding and then subtracting, and the algorithms, I mean, 59 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:44.400 it seems like that whole platform, the whole meta platform 60 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:47.360 with Facebook and Instagram and now fucking what's the other 61 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:51.960 one threads, It just all seems very heavily manipulated, which 62 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:54.159 obviously it would be. I mean, that's the reason why 63 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:55.840 it's free. They can do whatever the fuck they want 64 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:56.080 with it. 65 00:03:56.719 --> 00:03:59.360 I mean Facebook, the pendulum is kind of swinging the 66 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:00.000 opposite direct. 67 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:00.479 Now. 68 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.879 I haven't heard this as far as Facebook being like 69 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:05.680 back on, so to speak. But I know, for a 70 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:08.560 good minute there was seen as like the older generations 71 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:12.240 social media platform. It's so like, Yeah, especially in certain 72 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:17.199 communities of the truthers and the conspiracy heads, so to speak, 73 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:21.319 Facebook was used as like for a certain demographic. I 74 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:23.639 didn't realize that it was coming back in that way. 75 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:24.639 That's interesting. 76 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:28.399 Yeah. We my buddy Josh and I who's he's been 77 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:31.680 in the truth in game forever, Josh Stone. He's got 78 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:34.399 you know, I'll just plug in real quick, Josh Stone Truth. 79 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:39.120 He's on everything, but mostly YouTube and Facebook. We always 80 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.600 kind of refer to Facebook as like the baby Truthers area. 81 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:46.319 But I really do think they're starting to censor TikTok 82 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:48.720 more Like I can hardly put anything on there without 83 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:51.800 getting flagged. And this time last year they were letting 84 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:54.399 everything fly. And you know, I think that was the 85 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.560 big thing with China stealing your information because they didn't 86 00:04:57.560 --> 00:04:59.240 want people to go on there and actually get some 87 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:02.360 true things about you know. I think fight Earth was 88 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:04.040 a big one, you know, and whether you're a flat 89 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:07.160 Earth or a believer or not, that was not being 90 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:09.160 censored on there like it was everywhere else. 91 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:12.959 Yeah, And I've kind of always really been on the 92 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:16.920 whole TikTok side because dude, there's there's a bunch of wild, 93 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:18.959 crazy rabbit holes that you can find on there, and 94 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:21.639 it's not as censored as everything else, or at least 95 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:24.959 it wasn't anyway. And it seems like as soon as 96 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:29.399 fucking the USA dip their little fingers in the Chinese 97 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:32.319 company and they were like, all right, we're gonna start censoring, 98 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:36.319 which is interesting that you would get censoring on on 99 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:40.639 behalf of your own country and not a country that 100 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:45.600 we're not necessarily on amazing terms with, Jacob, you're the government. 101 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:48.319 When did the US government stick their fingers into TikTok 102 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:51.879 that's still one hundred percent owned by the CCP uh. 103 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:54.079 The funny thing about that is, you know, like, like 104 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:56.360 I said, I was telling people, like guys, throw all this. 105 00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:00.120 You know, like once you come to terms with like 106 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.199 if they can all agree on Antarctica, like Antarctic Treaty 107 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:05.680 and the VACS and all that, You're like, they're all 108 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:08.800 the same people. China's US, And I'm like, US owns 109 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.639 TikTok just as much as China does. And the other 110 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:13.720 week I literally I don't watch football as much as 111 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:15.800 I used to now that I'm awake and kind of 112 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:18.639 just think it's all ranked and whatnot. But TikTok is 113 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:23.319 a literal Thursday night advertiser on there, I'm like, oh, yeah, 114 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:27.040 China really owns TikTok as NFL as having them as 115 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:29.480 a sponsor, right right. 116 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.839 It definitely seems like, you know, we look at the 117 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:35.959 world as if there's borders and there's countries and there's 118 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:38.480 different rules, and and sure there is, like you know, 119 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:41.600 we have the Constitution and other countries have their own 120 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:45.480 kind of rules to follow and whatnot. But it seems 121 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:48.560 to me like, you know, there's a group of elite 122 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:52.639 individuals and then there are people who are more patriotic 123 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:55.600 as far as whatever country that you know they're from. 124 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:59.560 And it seems like the the globalists, which is interesting 125 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:01.800 that we're going to beginning into that today because we 126 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:04.199 actually brought you on to really talk about flat earth, 127 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:05.759 really get to know you a little bit since our 128 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:08.040 first time having you on. But it does seem like 129 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:13.519 there's a globalist kind of mafia, and then there's I mean, 130 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:15.560 what is the other side. I don't I don't even 131 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.120 know what you'd label it as I mean, is is 132 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:21.639 Trump in that whole board? Is that just the good 133 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:22.360 guys now? 134 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:23.639 Or I don't see it? 135 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:25.600 Kind of like the mafia sees it. Right, you have 136 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:29.319 made men and you have suckers, and that's just what 137 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:31.439 it is. It's not so you know, it's it could 138 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:33.639 be their own blood, their own blood, brother whatever. 139 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.000 Look, if you're not a made man, then you're a sucker. 140 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:38.079 That's just what it is. There's the haves and the 141 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:40.680 have nuts, and like that's just what it be. 142 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:42.040 It seems like it. 143 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:47.800 Yeah, and I you know, I don't vote. I don't 144 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:50.639 subscribe to voting. I tried to get people not to 145 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:53.959 vote just because, you know, from my personal perspective, they're 146 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:56.920 all just you know, the same people. They're all just 147 00:07:57.560 --> 00:08:00.639 here to make us think we're small and in significant 148 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:03.560 and pay taxes and don't really figure out where we 149 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:05.439 are and who we are and all that. 150 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:08.480 Well, yeah, and it doesn't it seems the same on 151 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:09.120 both ends. 152 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:11.160 You know, they're basically just trying to herd the cattle 153 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:15.399 on both sides, it seems like. But look, speaking of 154 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:21.639 globalism and our resident globe tard, Jacob, you guys are 155 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:24.680 probably going to disagree on quite a bit here. Although 156 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:28.519 we have had plenty of great flat earthers on the show, 157 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:33.200 David Weiss and plenty other ones, Like I mean, we've 158 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:36.799 had some great conversations, and for some reason, Jacob is 159 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:40.360 just unwilling to accept this as a reality that the 160 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:42.559 Earth is flat. Can you do you think you might 161 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:43.440 be able to convince him? 162 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:43.759 Tyler? 163 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:48.919 I think, if you know, I'm definitely not a debater. 164 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:53.080 I think I present a lot of my information through 165 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.360 visual information, So you know, sitting here having a conversation 166 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:58.360 with you, no, absolutely not. I wish I would not 167 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:02.480 be able to convince you. You know, as I was 168 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:05.080 telling your partner before we came on, anyone who has 169 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:09.000 had the Conspiracy Show for five or six hundred episodes 170 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.799 and isn't there yet? I questioned, So I question you, 171 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:13.480 But like I said to you guys at the beginning, 172 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.840 I question everybody. I don't trust anyone. So that's not 173 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:20.399 you know, don't take that personally, but I do wonder. 174 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:24.200 I do wonder, Hey, is that is an og conspiracy mind? 175 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:28.240 You got to question everything? And Jacob, I mean, damn, 176 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:30.360 I just mean, look, it does make me question you 177 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:31.200 bro a little bit. 178 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:35.240 I give all props to the flat Earth movement because 179 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:36.919 I don't want to call it the theorists, and I 180 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:38.879 don't want to call it the group or the culture, 181 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.600 because you throw labels on the group of people out 182 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:43.600 there that believe in flat earth and it gets negative 183 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:44.200 very quickly. 184 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:45.720 So I'll just say the movement. 185 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:49.200 I have mad respect for it because they have blown 186 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:52.600 the lid off of so many other conspiracies that have 187 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:55.519 all tied into the flat earth thing that while I 188 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:58.200 may not agree with flat Earth, I also can't disagree 189 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:00.799 with the points that were made about the map, certain 190 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:03.679 things that NASA have absolutely lied to us about, certain 191 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.799 things about an arcticle, like you know, I can't deny 192 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:10.360 these things. I could still disagree with the premise of 193 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:12.320 the thesis, but I can agree with a lot of 194 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:13.320 the other things that are said. 195 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:13.559 You know. 196 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:16.799 But with that being all out of here, I'm curious, now, 197 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:18.879 you before we started shooting, you said that you were 198 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:22.039 a teacher which grade and which subject. 199 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:25.279 I was a high school strength and conditioning teacher in 200 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:28.039 Illinois for close to twenty years. 201 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:32.279 Okay, okay, so when you so you never taught anything 202 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:34.440 as far as like science or physics or anything like 203 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:37.840 that as far as the curriculum goes right right, okay, okay, 204 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:42.320 So when you decided to how long have you been 205 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:44.159 of the belief that the Earth is flat? 206 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:47.639 I would say about a year and a half, probably 207 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:52.200 June of twenty twenty three is when I, you know, 208 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:56.159 I had been researching it and really started, you know, 209 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:57.679 like I'd gone down the rabbit hole on a lot 210 00:10:57.679 --> 00:10:59.759 of different things, and I really knew that I was 211 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:04.639 being about everything and was on TikTok and kept seeing it, 212 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:06.919 and you know, obviously I didn't just see it on 213 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.240 TikTok and believe it. But they were saying things that 214 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:12.440 I wasn't seeing other places, like hey, you see Chicago, 215 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:15.039 And I was like, I lived by Chicago. I've seen 216 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:17.759 Chicago a lot. I went to school in Indiana. I 217 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:21.720 could see Chicago across Lake Michigan. I didn't realize seeing 218 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:25.679 that all the time was actually supposedly a mirage. That's 219 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:27.960 only way they tell you you can see it from 220 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.000 sixty miles away. And I was like, well, I saw 221 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:33.399 that a lot, and I know I wasn't seeing a mirage. 222 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:36.159 So that was the final kind of like pushed me 223 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:38.279 over the Edge in June of twenty twenty three that 224 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:42.480 I really made the you know, the decision that I 225 00:11:42.559 --> 00:11:44.960 knew I didn't live where I thought I lived for 226 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:47.039 the first forty two years of my life. 227 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:49.559 You know what's interesting about I'm convert. You know what's 228 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:52.799 interesting about a mirage, bro, is that, you know, it 229 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:55.120 kind of seems like, you know, a mirage to me 230 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:57.320 is like you're tripping when you're seeing it. You know, 231 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:01.600 It's like I feel like whenever the the collective majority 232 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.159 can see something, it's no longer a mirage, right, Like 233 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:07.639 that's just psychologically how I look at it. 234 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:09.320 So I mean, yeah, I get it. 235 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:09.679 Like it. 236 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:11.120 You know, you see like those. 237 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:13.080 Movies where you're in the desert and you're star for 238 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:16.279 water and you know, you're like you're starting to lose 239 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:18.039 your mind, so you're starting to see things. That's what 240 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:20.600 I think of as a mirage. But to say that 241 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:23.519 a mirage is that you're looking across a fucking lake 242 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:26.960 sixty miles away and what you're seeing is basically just 243 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:31.360 your imagination. Like, I don't buy that. And so I 244 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:33.799 think that the flat earthers are definitely onto something there, 245 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:36.519 And you know, I don't really know what to make 246 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:38.759 of it. It could it possibly be that just their 247 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:42.000 math is wrong, that what is it like one inch 248 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:44.639 for every mile or something like that of curvature? 249 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.519 Yeah, eight inches per mile squared. And you know, like 250 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:52.399 when I first was coming into these thoughts and really 251 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:55.200 thinking about it, you know, I question, I'm like, am 252 00:12:55.240 --> 00:13:00.000 I is this really happening? Am I really like maybe 253 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:02.000 there or just off in the math. But then once, 254 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:04.600 you like once you accept it, and you're kind of 255 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:07.279 like out of the programming and you just think of 256 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:09.960 things as simple as water, and you know, you have 257 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:12.600 to think that water can defy anything you have ever 258 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:16.799 seen it do and in your entire life to literally 259 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:20.559 wrap around a ball and be sticking upside down to it. 260 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:23.840 But more so the curvature aspect. You know, water just 261 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:28.399 at rest doesn't have curvature. And you know, I lived 262 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.360 down Lake Michigan for forty two years and I knew that, 263 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:33.240 and I would look out and you know, I would 264 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:34.600 just you know, I would see in the distance and 265 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:36.879 I would see that you know, you can only see 266 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:40.080 so far supposedly, but and you could, you know, if 267 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:44.120 you think of Lake Michigan as like a paper towel role. 268 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:46.240 You know, you look far and you're like, Okay, you 269 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:48.360 can't see curvature because you can't see it far enough. 270 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:51.159 But then when I would scroll left and pan right, 271 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:54.240 I could literally see a distance of thirty miles to 272 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:56.960 the left and thirty miles to the right, and it's like, well, okay, 273 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:59.960 there's no curvature going forward. But then I look left 274 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:03.399 and I look right too, and you know, just once 275 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:05.840 you kind of get out of that matrix and that programming, 276 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:09.679 believing that water can curve is literally as silly as 277 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:12.000 thinking sand are you? You know, when I used to 278 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.320 believe Santa Claus would come down to my chimney and 279 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:17.519 leave me presence and take good bite out of a cookie, 280 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:20.399 it just it literally becomes that that ridiculous. And I 281 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:23.440 don't mean that disrespectfully or anything like that, but for me, 282 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:25.240 I like, how did I believe that for so long? 283 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:30.399 So was flat Earth? Your first red pill moment, so to. 284 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:33.200 Speak, was the first time I really questioned the narrative 285 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:35.000 around us and all of these things that were you 286 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:38.240 kind of already on the truth or movement prior to this, 287 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:39.799 I would. 288 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:42.759 Say nine to eleven, I was pretty aware of like 289 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:47.000 you know, twenty years ago, but for whatever reason. And 290 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:50.080 the crazy part is is I saw a video on 291 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:52.240 YouTube many many years ago, and there were like three 292 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:55.000 different explanations of what actually happened on nine to eleven, 293 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.840 and it was, you know, the planes did it, or 294 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:03.320 the gas burned it down, or controlled demolition or this 295 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:08.399 crazy technology like technologically advanced weapon. And at the time, 296 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:10.960 back in like you know, two thousand and three, I'm like, well, 297 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:14.519 that seems crazy. I've never seen anything like that. I've 298 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:17.759 never heard anything like that. But the explanation of the video, 299 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:20.320 I was like, that literally makes the most sense when 300 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:22.879 you look at the cars that were burn miles away, 301 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.679 how the buildings turned to dust. Just everything about it 302 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:28.240 made sense. So I literally was of the belief twenty 303 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.519 years ago that a direct energy weapon did nine to eleven. 304 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:36.000 But that didn't lead me down other rabbit holes. For 305 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:39.360 whatever reason, I think I convinced myself that it was 306 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.279 like a pearl harbor, let's do this false flag to 307 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:46.840 start a war to maybe save a million lives, you know, 308 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:50.080 sacrifice the few for the good of the many. And 309 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:52.480 I don't know, it just didn't lead me down other 310 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:55.600 rabbit holes. I was, you know, as a strength and 311 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:59.480 conditioning teacher. I was always pretty into health and nutrition, 312 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:02.039 so I knew that big Pharma was nonsense, and I 313 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:05.799 knew that the food pyramid and all that was nonsense. 314 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:10.159 But it wasn't literally until my dog was I'm a 315 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:12.559 dog dad. I have no kids. There wasn't until like 316 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:14.240 a year and a half ago, when my fifteen year 317 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:16.840 old dog was kind of on his last leg. And 318 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:20.399 I wasn't a believer in God. I wasn't, you know. 319 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:23.840 I was born into a Catholic family, but quickly got 320 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:28.360 turned away from that from the public indoctrination and going 321 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:29.600 to Sunday School. 322 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:32.600 As most young Catholic kids do. They typically turn from 323 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:34.440 the faith when they start thinking for themselves. 324 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:38.000 Yeah, exactly. So I'm sitting here as a forty two 325 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:40.919 year old man. My dog, who is my child is like? 326 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:41.559 Who was? 327 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:41.720 Like? 328 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:44.159 My world is pretty close to dying, and I think 329 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:46.879 I just started questioning, like, well, is there more to 330 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:49.679 this place? And really started to go down the near 331 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:52.679 death experience rabbit holes. And also at the same time, 332 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.080 I was like, well, I know they are aliens. There 333 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:57.600 have to be aliens because I live in this never 334 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:01.600 ending expansive universe with infinite galaxies and planets, and there's 335 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:04.839 been UFOs here, and so I literally started going down 336 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:06.880 rabbit holes thinking I was going to prove near death 337 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:11.559 experiences were fake and aliens were real and laws. 338 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:12.559 Hold on, hold on. 339 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:16.519 I love how your when you start questioning what happens 340 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:17.359 after we die. 341 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:19.480 First things, first, aliens are real. 342 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:22.759 Second thing we got like, yo, hold on, how how 343 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:27.839 did near death experiences and alien crash landings make sense 344 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:30.359 in blend? What did that Vin diagram look like in 345 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:30.880 your brain? 346 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:34.440 Bro? Well, it was really more of just starting to 347 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:37.839 not accept the narrative of what I have been told. 348 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:41.559 H No, I actually came to the same conclusion around 349 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:45.240 the same things as well. Like I got heavily into 350 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:48.400 uh near death experiences, which is what led me to 351 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:52.400 you know, sad Guru and Dolores Cannon and all the 352 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:56.119 different spiritual philosophies, and you know, uh looking into all 353 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:58.720 the Dolores Cannon books, and I became the you know, 354 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:01.960 the hypno thing therapists and the past life progression is 355 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:04.480 and I love that kind of stuff. And in still 356 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:07.960 to this day, I go and visit the enderf dot 357 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:11.880 org website to read all the different near death experiences 358 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:16.720 and it is a lot to process because everybody, it 359 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:20.839 seems like, is experiencing something different whenever they temporarily die, 360 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:23.799 and it is it's a weird hole to go into 361 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:27.880 and so and then you relay that with aliens because 362 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:30.000 a lot of them are talking about, well, they saw 363 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:33.079 these l like beings these in these near death experiences 364 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:35.599 and it is crazy, dude, And I don't really know 365 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:38.160 what to believe, but I just think that all we 366 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:40.119 are is just consciousness you want to call it a 367 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:42.359 soul or a spirit or whatever the hell it is, Like, 368 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:46.000 this is just a temporary place, wherever the hell we're at. 369 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:48.319 And that's what causes me to think that we're kind 370 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:51.119 of like in this waking dream kind of world where 371 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:53.920 we don't you know, we think we know what is 372 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:56.759 going on. We think that whenever Rachel Maddow gets in 373 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:59.599 front of a fucking microphone on CNN, we think that 374 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.839 she's actually saying and she's actually reporting the news and 375 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:05.400 stuff like that. But whenever you really break it all down, dude, 376 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:08.319 it's like it's like we're we're we're living in a 377 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:12.839 fucking video game, and everybody's just lying, Like why has 378 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:15.160 everybody got to be a bunch of lying liars about everything? 379 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:16.519 Like what is there to hide? 380 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:19.480 So I get, you know, the curiosity as far as 381 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:20.680 aliens and end of easgo. 382 00:19:20.759 --> 00:19:23.519 Man, I'm here with it, so with. 383 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:25.440 The alien side of the things. And you are a 384 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:28.599 flat earth of these days? Do you believe in extraterrestrial 385 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:30.759 life or what do you think that those are? 386 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:32.759 In reality? Where you stand these days? 387 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:36.519 Yeah, you know, I definitely believe in you know, I 388 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:39.200 don't think we're even here alone like walking around in 389 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:41.759 the streets. I think there's definitely something here with us. 390 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:45.880 I tend to think it's fallen, fallen angel in nature. 391 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:49.559 I think there are probably demons here that can literally 392 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:50.640 in our bodies. 393 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:54.079 Yeah, you're somebody of a non real background, you you 394 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:56.720 believe that they are angelic and demonic entities. 395 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:00.079 Yeah, I would say I'm not religious, but I I 396 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:01.839 do strongly believe in the Bible. 397 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:02.880 I do. 398 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:05.880 You know, for me, as I was waking up and 399 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:10.480 doing this research on things, things kept coming back that 400 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:14.279 rang true and were in the Bible, like the firmament. 401 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:16.160 Like you know, I was a full on believer in 402 00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:20.279 flat Earth and that there was a protective enclosure above 403 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:22.400 us before I ever even knew it was in the Bible. 404 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:25.240 And then one day I was in Florida at a 405 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:28.440 at a friend's dad's funeral in a hotel and it 406 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:30.960 was rainy day and I the Bible was sitting there 407 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.160 and I literally had never picked up a Bible other 408 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:35.240 than to like move it out of my way at 409 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:37.799 a funeral or a wedding. And I was like, well, 410 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:40.880 and I picked it up and like the firmament, just 411 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:44.599 like bam. I was like, Okay, there's been some truth 412 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:46.799 in this book that I thought has been nonsense my 413 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:50.799 whole life. What else? What else is there that they're 414 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.200 hiding from me? And then you know, started to go 415 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:54.160 down the. 416 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:57.200 Hide hiding playing site. 417 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:01.240 Yeah, and not not just at foot giants, but like 418 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:03.839 titans that were miles tall, and they were talked about 419 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:06.920 in the Bible, and dragons are talked about in the Bible. 420 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:09.359 So I'm a I'm a big believer in the Bible. 421 00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:16.759 I'm not a big believer in organized religion. So yeah, 422 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:19.720 I do think there is something, you know, I truly 423 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:22.599 do think there are fallen angels down here. I've done 424 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:25.799 a few videos on how I honestly think Elvis might 425 00:21:25.920 --> 00:21:26.720 be Lucifer. 426 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:29.559 Okay, yeah, there's a lot. 427 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:33.839 Of Yeah, so you believe the extraterrestrial is the fallen 428 00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:37.720 the crash landed craft, these types of things, you believe 429 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:40.559 that those are extraterrestrial or do you believe that those 430 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:42.440 are more demonic and angelic based? 431 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:45.759 Well, I think any craft I think potentially could be 432 00:21:46.359 --> 00:21:51.000 fallen angel technology that the you know, government is reverse engineered. 433 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:53.680 I don't think any bottom line is I feel like 434 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:56.359 I know and not believe, is that there are no 435 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:01.519 aliens coming from other galaxies and trillions of miles away. 436 00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:05.960 I think it's all here, dimensional things, spiritual things, things 437 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:09.079 coming from outside the firmament or maybe from in the Earth. 438 00:22:09.880 --> 00:22:12.759 So just to be clear on that, Okay, fair. 439 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:13.839 Enough, Yeah, that makes sense. 440 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:16.160 And and as a matter of fact, I mean they 441 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:19.799 just had the UFO hearing and they basically admitted that 442 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:22.720 a lot of the aliens, not all of them, but 443 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:24.799 a lot of them seem to be like coming out 444 00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:28.079 of our oceans and whatnot. So I mean there's something 445 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:29.559 about that in the Bible, isn't. 446 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:30.160 There There is? 447 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.839 Indeed, I mean some of the crime the water and 448 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:35.759 stuff like that, like the Leviathan and things. 449 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:39.359 Yeah, yeah, basically that there is, like, you know, some 450 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:40.440 shit going on in the water. 451 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:42.000 And I always found it quite. 452 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:44.799 Peculiar that we're, you know, we're we're searching outer space 453 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:48.599 before we even search our fucking oceans. It just I 454 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.279 don't know, Yeah, it seems like the Bible checks out 455 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:53.039 on another thing. 456 00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:53.440 You know. 457 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:57.000 I wanted you guys one of you mentioned Rachel maddout 458 00:22:57.279 --> 00:22:59.799 and did you guys see my my post on her or. 459 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.200 No, no, I haven't seen that. What's up with Rachel Mattow? 460 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:08.400 Well, I think I think there's a chance that Rachel 461 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:10.160 Mattow and I've improven this yet, you know, like a 462 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:14.279 lot of the celebrities playing multiple roles, or someone dying 463 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:16.799 and then coming back to someone else. I think I 464 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:19.680 provide a lot of really good evidence on that. You know, 465 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:23.279 I think summer speculation, but I think I'm really good 466 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:27.279 at finding facial anomalies, like really specific moles and different 467 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:31.559 things that would be really really coincidental for the same 468 00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:34.480 two people to have, especially when those same people are 469 00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:38.319 look similar and have similar mannerisms and things like that. Anyway, 470 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:43.119 I think there's a chance that Rachel Maddow is Chandler 471 00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:44.920 being aka Matthew Perry. 472 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:52.880 WHOA Okay, so the facial alignments align. 473 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:58.960 Yeah, there's very similar symmetry to their faces. Rachel Maddow 474 00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:02.240 has a scar that looks like an Adams apple would 475 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:05.160 have been removed. There was a lot of like a 476 00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:08.119 side by side, they literally look like they could be 477 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:11.839 the same person if you feminize him. And then Matthew 478 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.759 Perry was doing a lot of cryptic Batman messages in 479 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:20.960 his Instagram and different things before he died, and Rachel 480 00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:23.920 Maddow just happened to around that same time be a 481 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:27.000 voice character for like a new Batman TV show that 482 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:28.880 was out, So there were a lot of things to it. 483 00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:32.160 I'm still in the process of it, but I like 484 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:34.960 I'm fifty percent there right now thinking that that is 485 00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:36.400 an actuality. 486 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:38.839 Wow, you know what you heard this one? 487 00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:42.200 You know, as far as like you know, certain actors 488 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.359 playing different characters in the real world, I absolutely think 489 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.680 that that could be a thing. They are actors, you know, 490 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:52.039 like we think that they're only actors whenever they're you know, 491 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:57.119 on a movie for fucking Paramount or something or Universal 492 00:24:57.119 --> 00:24:59.960 Studios or something like that. But I think the real 493 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.839 Universal Studios is here like it's Earth and it is 494 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:06.960 to you know, essentially deceive, and you know, I mean, 495 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:10.240 why else are they all selling out to what seems 496 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:13.559 like the Illuminati, always holding up the Illuminati triangle, always 497 00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:16.160 got you know, one eye covered, Like why would you 498 00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:18.480 need to do that if you're just making movies? You know, 499 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:21.400 like it seems like there's more to the story than 500 00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:23.640 what we're you know, what we're led to believe. 501 00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:27.400 Yeah, exactly, and you know, like people that will argue 502 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:29.799 with me and they're like, it's just not happening that 503 00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:32.319 there's it's too hard to believe, and exactly what you said, 504 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:34.200 I'm like, is it really that hard to believe that 505 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:39.759 someone who is an actor that puts on costumes and 506 00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:43.559 puts on personas and literally is acting as someone different 507 00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:46.960 would just do that at a higher level than you're realizing, 508 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:51.720 like parading around as a supposed real individual. So you know, 509 00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:54.400 there are some I do that are speculative, and there 510 00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:56.240 are some that I've done that I'm sure I'm dead 511 00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:59.759 sure on, you know, Brad Pitt being Benicio del Toro, 512 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:04.400 dead Cheiron, Jim Morrison dying and coming back as Rush Limbaugh, 513 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:05.680 I'm dead schir. 514 00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:07.599 On, so Limbaugh. 515 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:14.079 Yeah, Sam, Now you you mentioned Elvis possibly being Satan, 516 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:16.440 which I saw the one that you did as far 517 00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:19.079 as and I've seen others also, you know, try and 518 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:21.680 cover that one as well as far as Elvis being Trump, 519 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:24.400 and I thought that is pretty interesting. They were born 520 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:26.279 kind of around the same era, and so I started 521 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:28.960 looking it up. There's only an eleven year difference. And 522 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.640 with all the makeup that Trump wears, I mean, look 523 00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:33.960 how many people wear makeup, And it's like you you 524 00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:36.000 take off your makeup and you look five or six 525 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.000 years older, and then you put makeup on, you're you're 526 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:39.680 looking a little bit younger. And I'm not even talking 527 00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:41.119 about just women. I'm talking about life. 528 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:44.160 Was a blonde in the he dyed his hair blacks 529 00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:46.160 that it looked better on the black and white television, 530 00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:47.839 but he was born blonde. 531 00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:51.319 Like in the entertainment industry, they're always putting makeup on, 532 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.279 like news anchors are putting makeup on. So it's like, 533 00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:57.559 you know, there is something to do with that, but 534 00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:00.359 like what would be the reason? First off, let me 535 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.319 ask you, why do you think that Elvis would be 536 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:04.839 Satan incarnated? 537 00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:09.799 So when I first did this Elvis video, or when 538 00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:13.920 I first started having these thoughts, one of the first 539 00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:17.000 things that kind of woke me up was just seeing 540 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:21.119 really unusual anomalies and videos and you know, seeing people 541 00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:25.000 glitch out seeing you know, I don't do you guys 542 00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:28.000 ever see the general Petraeus video where he faints in 543 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:31.079 the middle of like a hearing. Have you seen that one? 544 00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:33.279 Oh? Yeah, So you know. 545 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.319 I just found some crazy things with that, with like 546 00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:38.519 his eyes changing, and like, these aren't things that people 547 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:40.599 were like bringing to the forefront. And I wasn't seeing 548 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:44.200 on TikTok. I was going to like the CNN video 549 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:46.920 and the ABC video, and there was just some weird 550 00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:51.640 things that really made me think that Petraeus was not human, 551 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:54.559 you know, like he was actually either had some sort 552 00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:58.440 of holographic tech to hide what he actually looked like. 553 00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:01.960 So I was kind of digging down these rabbit holes 554 00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:06.359 really thinking that there were other beings here. And then 555 00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:08.359 I saw the same thing with Elvis. I saw his 556 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:11.720 hair glitching. I saw there's a video where his eyes 557 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.519 like literally pop out of his head after he kisses 558 00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:17.559 this little girl, and just really once I really started 559 00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:21.359 thinking there were other beings here. I just started, you know, 560 00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:24.599 researching different things, and Elvis, for some reason, stuck out 561 00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:27.559 because I was, you know, really of the belief that 562 00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:31.720 what the Bible said about the fallen angels coming down 563 00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:35.519 here and Lucifer wanting to be worshiped like God instead 564 00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:38.839 of worshiping God. And you know, if you come down 565 00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.559 here and you're a fallen angel and you want to 566 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:45.240 be worshiped, and there's some things that say Lucifer was 567 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:49.000 the minister of music in heaven. Right, who else has 568 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:53.240 ever been more worshiped in the entire world than Elvis? 569 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:55.319 So you know, I think I started. 570 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:56.880 And he went to Michael Jackson. 571 00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.079 I always heard that the Nephelimic spirit inside of l 572 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.599 jumped to Michael Jackson's body and that's why he was 573 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:05.920 the Prince of pop and all of these things. 574 00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.200 This was the king of rock, and you see, that 575 00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:08.799 was always it. 576 00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:12.000 I don't know, yeah, and I don't you know, I 577 00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.440 only can speculate and provide some evidence that I find what, 578 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:17.839 you know, I would not say that I know that one, 579 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:20.799 like I know Brad Pitt plays Benisio del Toro. But 580 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:26.400 you know, just some things add up, and especially you know, 581 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:28.720 when you look at some of the things, like Elvis's name, 582 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:32.799 even starting with Elle, there's you know, most of the 583 00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:37.359 angels and in el Michael, Gabriel, Azazel. So there's there's 584 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.119 a lot of things that makes sense to me when 585 00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.160 I look into it. And then you know, I don't 586 00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.519 claim to know how it works. You know, there's if 587 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.279 that spirit did leave Elvis, maybe it did go into Trump, 588 00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:52.839 or maybe somehow they just transitioned into Trump. There are 589 00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:54.839 a lot of people that think Elvis is Bob Joyce. 590 00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:56.119 I don't know what I think. 591 00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.319 I've seen that one, the Bob Joyce one. That that one, 592 00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:01.599 you know, it kind of checks out. But at the 593 00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.640 same time, you know, you hear about Elvis and uh, 594 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.759 you know he he obviously had a drug problem. Allegedly 595 00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:11.119 that's how he died. Was because of heroin or something, 596 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:11.559 wasn't it. 597 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:16.079 Allegedly? Yeah, right on the toilet. I think drug overdose 598 00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:19.000 on the toilet, right right. I'm to the point where 599 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:22.000 I don't believe a single story about a single celebrity 600 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.759 that is that has died anymore, because I've just you know, 601 00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:27.440 I give me one and I'll find them. Pretty much. 602 00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:31.640 There's there they're just all lies in my opinion. 603 00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.480 Right, And and going back to uh chand la bang, 604 00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:39.680 my little bengaling, the fucking what's his name? 605 00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:40.960 Matthew Perry? 606 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.599 It is interesting because now if you're looking at it 607 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:48.720 through this lens, and Matthew Perry is scared for his life, 608 00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:49.920 well what life. 609 00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:50.960 Is he actually scared for? 610 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.680 Is he is he worried that he's going to lose 611 00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:59.039 the life of you know, the friend's character or or 612 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.519 just the character of Matthew Perry seemingly you know, just 613 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:05.400 living a normal human life. And and you know what 614 00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:08.519 I mean, like, is it almost like a reincarnation kind 615 00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:10.000 of thing. I know a lot of people don't believe 616 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:10.640 in reincarnation. 617 00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:11.160 I do. 618 00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:16.720 And and what happens whenever you do reincarnate, does you know, 619 00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:18.640 to all your memories and all that shit go with you? 620 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:20.799 I don't think so. But like, is it. 621 00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:24.319 Possible that Matthew Perry was scared to lose his current 622 00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:26.160 life and he knew that he was going to be 623 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.240 like reincarnated as Rachel Maddow or would take over that 624 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.519 role of Rachel Maddow Or do you think that he's 625 00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:35.000 always been Rachel Maddow let's ask that one. 626 00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:39.279 Yeah, I think that there probably was or is an 627 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.440 actual Rachel Maddow. And I think that he probably And 628 00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.319 you know, it's like they're they're really good at this, 629 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:49.480 you know, they they're not just you know, they'll have 630 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.279 multiple people play the role, so it's so you can say, like, 631 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:55.920 you know, like for example, I did the Benisio Brad 632 00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:58.400 or Benicio del Toro and Brad Pitt. But I do 633 00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:01.519 think other people play Benisio with Delturo. I think he's 634 00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.440 a character, and different celebrities have cycled through. I think 635 00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.119 Leonardo DiCaprio has done it. I think Tom Hanks has 636 00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:10.400 done it, you know, and they do that to throw 637 00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:14.000 you off the set a little bit, and I think, well, 638 00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.559 Rachel Maddow might actually exist, you know. I think there 639 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:20.519 are these people play a role for a certain amount 640 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.839 of time and then whatever it's contracted or what, they 641 00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:26.440 then switch. And I think a lot of it is 642 00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:29.599 kind of doing like a duality thing, you know, like 643 00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:33.720 so Jim Morrison was this party drug dude, and then 644 00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:37.160 he transitions into Rush Wimbaugh is like very right wing 645 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.920 in like completely different. I think they're just trying to 646 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.240 play the duality side of things for whatever reason. So 647 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:48.720 I think Rachel Maddow has probably transitioned into somebody else 648 00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:52.599 and Chandler Bang Matthew Perry has now taken on this role, 649 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:58.599 and I think he's probably parading around as her permanently. 650 00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:00.880 And kind of checks out though if you really think 651 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.839 about it, like you know, especially if they're all like 652 00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:06.799 into the occult, and I love covering the occult, like 653 00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:09.799 I'm I love that kind of stuff, just learning about 654 00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:13.880 all of it. I definitely wouldn't be practicing the dark 655 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.720 side of it, that's for fucking sure. But you see 656 00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.759 that within the occult, there's always a positive side and 657 00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.799 a negative side. You know, you could have in tarot, 658 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.799 you could have the card right side up or or 659 00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:28.440 turned upside down, and there's two different meanings. You have 660 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.319 the sun and then you have the black son, and 661 00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:35.799 there's always like this this weird balance of the positive 662 00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:36.599 and the negative. 663 00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:37.920 And if you think about. 664 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.160 It, that kind of would be you know what Matthew 665 00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:42.039 Perry was kind of standing for. You know, he was 666 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.240 the lovable chandler bing as the positive, and then you 667 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.960 would have one of the most hated women in the 668 00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:51.279 fucking world on CNN or whatever, as Rachel Maddow. So 669 00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:54.119 it does kind of you know, check out at least 670 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:55.440 as far as the occult. 671 00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:57.359 Goes bing exactly. 672 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:02.240 Damn yeah, I might be on some shit, dude, Jacob, 673 00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:04.759 What do you think about you know, certain actors playing 674 00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:08.239 different roles like that We've covered, you know how Joe 675 00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:12.000 Biden might be Jim Carrey, or he might be what 676 00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.079 was the other one, the guy from Scary movie he 677 00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:16.239 was the priest. 678 00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.440 I think it's in just me personally, I think it's 679 00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.400 way more likely that they've been cloned rather than their 680 00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:27.679 being acted by other people. Now, not all cases, I 681 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.679 believe there are definitely some that the Rush Limball thing 682 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.280 that's funny because hell, even Family Guy got a jab 683 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.679 in it at once upon a time of somebody playing 684 00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:37.480 Rush Limbaugh. 685 00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:38.760 If I'm not mistaken, it. 686 00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.519 Was like he had like eight different costumes in his 687 00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.000 closet or something, and that was one of them. So 688 00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:47.159 I mean, and because Rush was such a fat, chubby, 689 00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:50.920 disgusting shithead that like people, it could be anybody, so 690 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:52.760 many people could have been wearing a fat suit, so 691 00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.280 like it's fun, you know what I mean. But for 692 00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:58.239 Joe Biden don't I could see how the Jim Carrey 693 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:01.320 thing could line up. I think Jim Carrey's too good 694 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:04.079 of an actor for that shitty of a role like that. 695 00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:06.159 One makes more sense to me that that's like a 696 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:10.119 clone that keeps like slowly crumbling because they're not, uh, 697 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:11.199 they're not built to last. 698 00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:14.480 Who's to say that wasn't the script though, you know, 699 00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.480 like that could just be the script. Like I'm sure 700 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:20.039 fucking Dustin Hoffman he was just like, well, let me, 701 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:22.239 what would a rain man be like, you know what 702 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:22.559 I mean? 703 00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.159 And just act like that? You know, it's like. 704 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:27.920 What did his mething acted look like at that time? 705 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.239 He just go in insane asylum and just like scope 706 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:31.000 people out. 707 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:33.639 Right right and and so, and that's what they do, 708 00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:36.039 Like a lot of the great actors, they study the 709 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.000 roles of you know, people in real life and stuff 710 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:39.280 like that. 711 00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:41.639 So it wouldn't be that crazy. I mean, you think 712 00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:42.000 about it. 713 00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:44.079 Just just using Jim Carrey as an example, he's one 714 00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.079 of my favorite actors of all time. I think he's 715 00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:49.079 a little fucking unhinged nowadays, but whatever, He's probably always 716 00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:49.679 been that way. 717 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:54.440 But you see him literally always wearing a different mask, well, 718 00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:56.320 I mean there was the mask that he played as 719 00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:59.280 he was the fucking Grinch, you know, like and all 720 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.800 like so many the other like amazing characters. As far 721 00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:05.559 as his method acting go, he was the fucking what 722 00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.719 was the one where he actually like went crazy as 723 00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:09.679 the character. 724 00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.880 Oh uh man on the moon? The yeah yeah yeah story. 725 00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:17.719 Yeah Andy Kaufman, Right, And you could see you could 726 00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.920 see how that could translate to what we call real life, right, 727 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.119 like why why wouldn't he be able to pull something 728 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:24.719 like that off? 729 00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.039 Have you got me good? Do you guys know that 730 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:33.079 that's like like the Jim Carrey Joe Biden thing is, 731 00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:36.199 that's like, that's me that does that most of the time. 732 00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.320 That like I was kind of the originator of that. 733 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:45.239 I've got like probably a dozen videos of exact, you know, 734 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:49.239 reenactments of seeing Jim Carrey has done specifically to that 735 00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.719 walk that he that Joe Biden does from the helicopter 736 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.519 up to Air Force one. But I've I've put together 737 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:58.800 so many and living color things. There's endless especially when 738 00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.639 Joe Biden falls. When he falls, there is always a 739 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.519 Jim Carrey or when Biden falls, Yeah, there's always an 740 00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:08.920 exact Jim Carrey replica from something Wow. 741 00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:11.960 You also started doing all this about a year and 742 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:13.360 a half ago too, then, right. 743 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:17.000 Yeah, all, like literally I was nose down and teaching 744 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.760 and coaching and you know, my own kind of fitness pursuits, 745 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:22.960 and this just hit me like a ton of ton 746 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.559 of bricks and felt compelled to start making content on 747 00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:30.000 it because no one in my real life, no one ever, 748 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.400 you know, in my teaching life, none of my friends 749 00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:34.400 or family wanted to hear anything of it. So I 750 00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:36.559 was like, well, I'm seeing this stuff. I know, I'm 751 00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.079 not losing my mind, so maybe I'll put it out 752 00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:42.119 to the internet world. And you know, who knew that 753 00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.679 coaching and teaching strength and conditioning for twenty years would 754 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:49.960 somehow lead to being pretty decent at content creating. 755 00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:54.280 Yeah, I mean, you're you're kind of working a crowd 756 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:57.639 in a way, shape and form when you're you know, 757 00:37:57.760 --> 00:37:58.280 I get it. 758 00:37:58.239 --> 00:37:59.840 A teacher by nature, I like it. 759 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:01.039 Yeah right right? 760 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:03.599 So, okay, so about a year and a half ago, 761 00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:05.760 you said you've always kind of been on the belief 762 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.039 that nine to eleven has been an inside job, or 763 00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:10.239 at least that the story hasn't been what they told 764 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:13.639 us initially all right, but about year and a half ago, 765 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.079 This is after COVID, after the masks, after the jabs, 766 00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:18.960 after all of that kind of got pulled back and 767 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:22.599 life got back to somewhat normalcy. That's when you really 768 00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:25.960 started delving into other things and looking at you know, 769 00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:30.480 the world from a different perspective. So when you really 770 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:33.760 started to get more into the flat earth conversation. 771 00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:35.000 What was it that did it for you? 772 00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:37.679 That was like, yep, that clearly we're on a flat 773 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:38.480 plant positionance. 774 00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:43.079 You brought up water a minute ago, and my only. 775 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.440 And Jonathan, you and I have talked about this as well, 776 00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:49.559 the surface tension of water, right, and that would be 777 00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:50.639 how I would explain the. 778 00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:52.920 Ball earth and the water situation. 779 00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:55.719 As a matter of fact, Jonathan be giving me the 780 00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:57.360 ability to share the screen real quick. I have a 781 00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:01.639 video that I took to kind of show this. I 782 00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:03.880 took it a about two months ago. I had a 783 00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:06.800 feeling we would be needing it eventually. All right, can 784 00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:07.519 y'all both see it? 785 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:08.039 Yep? 786 00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:09.639 All right, real quick. 787 00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:11.679 For anybody who is just listening it would like to 788 00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:14.320 see what I am showing, Jonathan, tell them where they 789 00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:14.639 can go. 790 00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:16.559 You can come check us out at patreon dot com 791 00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.599 slash Cultive Conspiracy Podcast or rockfan dot com slash cult 792 00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:22.519 of Conspiracy. 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Now you can 804 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.280 maybe you could see a little bit of that bubble 805 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:55.800 of that surface tension of the water on the top side. 806 00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:58.679 But watch what happens whenever I move it. You can 807 00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:01.320 see that the water is full but not spilling over 808 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:02.840 the side. You see how it's kind of doing that 809 00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:06.280 gel movement on the top right there. That is water 810 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:09.000 with its surface tension. Now that's in a small cup. 811 00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:11.079 That's in a very small cup, and that's a very 812 00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.599 isolated example. But I am of the belief that if 813 00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:16.760 you were to do that with a large enough body 814 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.719 of water across a large enough scope i e. 815 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:21.519 The planet, the water. 816 00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:24.440 Would kind of connect and you know, stick to each 817 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.079 other in a surface tension like fashion. And then I 818 00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.960 also believe in gravity. Is that only that is just 819 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.639 from my globe TRD perspective? 820 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:33.840 Is that only like. 821 00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:36.519 Big physics or stuff like that? I don't like it. 822 00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.880 Well, no, I was gonna say, is that only like 823 00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:40.719 big physics? 824 00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:43.840 You know how like metaphysics? 825 00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:46.239 You know down in quantum physics, everything's tiny or so 826 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:48.400 it has a different set of physics. Are we talking 827 00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:50.719 about all right? Well, yeah, you got a cup. Yeah, 828 00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:51.880 you know, I get it. 829 00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.119 You know, the water in the real world, yeah, the 830 00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:55.400 not the atomic level. 831 00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:57.840 Sure, No, I That's what I'm trying to figure out, 832 00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.199 because I don't know if you would be a to 833 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.199 replicate putting water on the outside of a ball and 834 00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:06.719 it having that same effect. Because you're you're showing that 835 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:09.800 that water can it can rise above the lip, which 836 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:13.280 I don't think anybody's questioning that's that's pretty cool. But 837 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.960 are you seeing it curve all the way around that cup? 838 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:18.519 I don't think. I don't think you are you know, we. 839 00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:21.920 Don't have a way of making another planet our equal 840 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.400 size to try to replicate it. So anything so it's 841 00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:26.599 trying to make replicable is thrown out immediately. 842 00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:29.760 So physics is is different on a larger scale, which 843 00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:30.679 is what I was asking you. 844 00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:33.920 I didn't say physics is different at a larger scale. 845 00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:36.280 I'm saying that water has a surface tension, So like, 846 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:38.440 how does water stick together in a place and do 847 00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:39.079 like it does? 848 00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:41.239 That would be one of the things about it. 849 00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:43.719 Right, But you wouldn't be able to replicate you know, 850 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:48.119 putting that on a ball. 851 00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.960 Especially spending miles per hour, and you know all the 852 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:51.239 other different things that's doing. 853 00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:54.599 And no, until somebody makes a way to make another planet, 854 00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:56.400 we won't be able to replicate that. 855 00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:58.480 Well, yeah, but physics is physics. You should be able 856 00:41:58.480 --> 00:41:59.880 to do it here at the real level. That's what 857 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:00.400 you said. 858 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:03.599 It's real physics, not tiny physics. So if you can 859 00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:07.000 do it on a large scale and the physics applied 860 00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:08.599 to a large scale, you should be able to apply 861 00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:09.480 it to the small scale. 862 00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:09.800 Right. 863 00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:14.519 I can't make I can't make a gallon of water 864 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.360 fit into a cubic inch of space. 865 00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:17.559 That's not going to happen. 866 00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:20.440 Nobody can. And that's the point that he's trying to 867 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:20.880 make here. 868 00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:25.039 Well, I must be missing it. I'm sorry. 869 00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:26.880 No, The point is, you. 870 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:30.840 Know, I don't think I don't think anyone's going to 871 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.119 convince you of anything. I think, you know, you need 872 00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:36.239 to do the research yourself. Like I made the mistake 873 00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:39.440 for many many months thinking because I figured this out, 874 00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:42.440 I'd be able to convince other people. But I don't 875 00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:44.800 think I've convinced one single person in my real life 876 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.079 that they don't live on a globe. But it's got 877 00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:51.159 to be self seeking information. And you know, you asked 878 00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:52.719 me in the beginning, what was one of the things, 879 00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:56.159 and yeah, see in Chicago from sixty miles away and 880 00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:59.679 seeing the buildings standing straight up, you know they're obviously 881 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:02.000 there are different reasons why you might not be able 882 00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:05.480 to see the bottom of the buildings that could explain 883 00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:08.800 it other than living on a ball, like you know, 884 00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:12.559 the density of the atmosphere and perspective and different things. 885 00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.559 But that aside. One of the things that really sold 886 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.679 it for me was just the north star in Polarius 887 00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:21.840 and it just never moving. And you know, this isn't 888 00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:24.519 as much about flat Earth as it is about being 889 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:27.079 stationary and everything moving around us. 890 00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:30.360 And with that, they say that we used to have 891 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.800 a different north star. What are your thoughts on this? 892 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.800 Well, I mean I wasn't there. I can't prove that, 893 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:41.360 so I try. Once I woke up to everything, I 894 00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.800 literally threw every single thing I thought I knew away 895 00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:47.639 and I started fresh, and I really try to base 896 00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:50.559 my thoughts and beliefs on things I can witness and 897 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.719 experience and you know research. A lot of the things 898 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:58.480 I consider knowledge now isn't things I find on the internet, 899 00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.559 but things I disprove that they're telling us as truth, 900 00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:03.639 because then I can at least say, well, even though 901 00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:06.679 that's not true, or even you know that might not 902 00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:09.639 be true, but I know it's not the truth, if 903 00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:10.360 that makes sense. 904 00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:15.599 Yeah, I A no, Yeah, I I I get it. 905 00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:18.719 And you know, some people it's it's easier to believe 906 00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:20.519 what you've been told than to go out and search 907 00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:22.840 for it and find the truth for yourself, which I 908 00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.360 which is why I love you know, flat Earth. There's 909 00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:27.519 so much because you know, you are going to get 910 00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:31.199 a lot of flak on on either side. Really, like 911 00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:32.920 a lot of people are gonna look at you, you're 912 00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:35.920 gonna feel like you're you're kind of like, uh an 913 00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:39.639 outcast where uh you know what, because whenever I got 914 00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:43.639 into flat Earth, I wanted to fucking tell everybody about it, dude. 915 00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:45.960 Like I was going, I was talking everybody at work. 916 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.119 I was talking to my family members, all my friends. 917 00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:48.599 Dude. 918 00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:51.840 I even wanted to like indoctrinate my daughter into all 919 00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:54.159 the flat earth shit, like I was going really hard 920 00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:58.360 into it. And because it is one of those things 921 00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:02.360 to where it would be the biggest lie ever, it 922 00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:05.159 would it would have to be the biggest lie ever 923 00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.960 that that we live on a flat surface and they 924 00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:11.440 tell us that it's a ball, and and how like 925 00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:14.880 if all right, if the Earth actually is flat and 926 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:19.159 you convinced billions of people that we live on a ball, 927 00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.159 like you're telling people, don't trust what your eyes tell 928 00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:26.639 you that that there is scientists out there that have 929 00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:29.559 done math and all the different science, and we've tested 930 00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:32.519 the curvature and obviously space is a never ending fucking 931 00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:35.800 vacuum and like all these things, Like now you're just 932 00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:39.000 kind of letting the people know that, well, you're if 933 00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:40.679 you can't wrap your mind around that, it's just because 934 00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:42.159 you're not fucking smart enough, so you may as well 935 00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:43.400 just listen to us all the time. 936 00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:46.519 Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, I think there's a major 937 00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:49.920 spirituality component to it. I think it really does have 938 00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:53.199 to do strongly with hiding the fact that this place 939 00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:56.920 is created and that God is real. And but I 940 00:45:56.920 --> 00:45:59.840 do think for sure there's a level of control to it. 941 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.559 If they can convince you at three years old not 942 00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.440 to trust your senses, kind of exactly what you're said. 943 00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:08.079 I can't trust my senses. I'm not smart enough. Well, 944 00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:10.880 I better appeal to the people on the white coats, 945 00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:14.719 the people on the TV telling me to jab my arm, 946 00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:18.320 And it's just it's a way to control people, for sure. 947 00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:21.519 But I think at a higher level it is literally 948 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:26.320 spiritual warfare and just really trying to and like, here's 949 00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:28.800 where it's not speculation. It worked on me for forty 950 00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.360 two years. I wouldn't say I was an atheist, but 951 00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:34.679 I definitely you know, I was afraid of dying. I 952 00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:38.079 was terrified of flying because I just thought this was it. 953 00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:40.599 I thought I was an evolved eight living on a 954 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:44.039 spinning ball, and just on one of infinite spinning balls 955 00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:47.159 and insignificant, unimportant and you know, I thought I was 956 00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:49.679 living a pretty good life and I didn't think I 957 00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:51.880 was a slave or anything like that. But like once 958 00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:53.960 you kind of like take a step back, You're like, 959 00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:57.280 holy shit, everything I believe had been fed to me 960 00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:00.719 and there's no evidence of ninety nine percent of it. Well, 961 00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:03.480 let's figure out where we actually are, who we actually are. 962 00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:05.840 Maybe there's a reason for being here. Maybe I have 963 00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:09.400 a lot more power than I ever realized, and maybe, 964 00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:11.079 you know, people say it doesn't matter, I still got 965 00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:13.239 to go to work tomorrow. Well I didn't go to work. 966 00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:16.480 You know, there's more to a story to that. But 967 00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.199 I'm you know, I'm sitting here. I live in a 968 00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:21.639 different state now, I have a different job, I have 969 00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:25.239 a whole different crew of people I communicate with and 970 00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.719 talk with and am friends with. Like it absolutely changed 971 00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:32.159 my life, and at first it was darkness. At first. 972 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:34.440 I had to go through that darkness to get to 973 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:36.599 this tunnel where I'm living my best life now. But 974 00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:40.400 it absolutely fucking matters. So anyone who says it doesn't matter, 975 00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.519 I still got to go to work tomorrow, that's just 976 00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.559 really narrow minded thinking. And that's because you don't fully 977 00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:48.639 understand how much it matters that you say. 978 00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:51.440 That, Oh, I would say that that it's literally we're 979 00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:54.559 talking about the nature of our existence, you know, like 980 00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:58.199 like why if if the Earth isn't And to be honest, 981 00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.159 I did go down the flat earth rabbit hole, as 982 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.039 I said, you know, a few years ago. That was 983 00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:04.840 really the thing that sparked you know, conspiracy for me 984 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.599 in the first place. But I've kind of taken on 985 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.840 the I the idea of like maybe we're living on 986 00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:12.880 a double toroid. Have you ever looked into the double 987 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:13.639 toroid before? 988 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:16.639 Yeah, for sure. And you know, like I'm not against 989 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:19.440 even you know, simulation theory. I just think it might 990 00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.440 be God simulation. I don't think I'm living in a computer. 991 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.920 I think sure, there's definitely a chance we're we're living 992 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:27.400 on the you know, center plane of a toroidal field. 993 00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.079 And I don't claim to know. I just claim to 994 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.639 know what I'm not living on, you know, and and 995 00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:34.679 speculate from there. I think there's a lot of good 996 00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:37.519 evidence though, that we are an enclosed system. I saw 997 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:41.199 an awesome, awesome video earlier this morning, and you know, 998 00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:44.400 I've experienced this myself since I moved to Florida six 999 00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:47.440 months ago from Illinois. I've been telling my wife, I'm like, 1000 00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:50.440 the clouds are closer here, Like I don't care what 1001 00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:54.039 anyone else says, the clouds are lower here, the stars 1002 00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:54.719 are closer. 1003 00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:57.840 And I was the equator absolutely bro. 1004 00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:03.079 Closer because the firmament's closer because it's curved and slope. 1005 00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:07.440 But the I watched this video on how rainbows are 1006 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.039 different too, like the closer you are to the north pole, 1007 00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:13.920 the larger they are, and the further south you are, 1008 00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:16.400 the flatter they are. And I went and I've got 1009 00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:19.320 I man, I had to like, the rainbows in Florida 1010 00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.159 are insane. I literally had three days in a row 1011 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:26.000 with a rainbow directly over my house, like incredible stuff. 1012 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:29.079 But I went and compared rainbows from them Illinois to 1013 00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.920 Florida with my own photos. I'm like, there's definitely different 1014 00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:35.519 pitch and slope to those, And to me, that is 1015 00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:40.039 strong evidence that we are living in in a cloist system. 1016 00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:43.280 And you know, because I already thought that rainbows were 1017 00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:48.559 from the sun shining through a prism that is, well, 1018 00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:51.760 a rounded prism, but so that was really cool. 1019 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.519 Jacob, how do you explain away rainbows? Like, how does 1020 00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:58.599 a globe tard explain away rainbows, sir. 1021 00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:00.440 I don't explain the away. 1022 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:03.599 I acknowledge them to be very real, right, and as 1023 00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:06.440 a Christian, I acknowledge them to be a sign from 1024 00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:08.840 God saying he will never flood the earth again. 1025 00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:09.360 Right. 1026 00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:12.960 But now from the scientific perspective, I do see it 1027 00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.519 as sunlight being shown. 1028 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.119 Through a series of prisms. 1029 00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:19.639 I am of the belief that it is tiny water 1030 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.039 droplets in the air, And the only time that you 1031 00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.880 actually can have that much water in the air with 1032 00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:28.280 sunlight like that is usually right after it rains, when 1033 00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:31.599 there's still that high of humidity in the air. To 1034 00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:34.840 say that they have a narrower arch up north as 1035 00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.639 opposed to a wider one down south, that makes sense 1036 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:42.320 to me on the ball earth perspective, because air pressure. 1037 00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.039 Air pressure has a lot to do with how light bends. 1038 00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:48.440 It doesn't change the color spectrum, but it does change 1039 00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:51.880 the distance that it goes whenever it does refract. So 1040 00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:54.800 to say that they are wider nearer to the equator 1041 00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:56.840 makes perfect sense to me as well. And to say 1042 00:50:56.840 --> 00:50:59.119 that the clouds look closer nearer to the equator, it's 1043 00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:01.639 also very well check out with me. So but I 1044 00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:04.559 don't see them as a as something like to be 1045 00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:05.920 debunked by any means. 1046 00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:07.440 I think we all can agree that they're there. 1047 00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:11.880 I do, however, question why there's so many double rainbows, 1048 00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:16.000 because growing up, that was like the craziest shit ever 1049 00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:19.199 was to see double rainbow, Like that was a one 1050 00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:22.440 maybe in your life type of situation. These days, it 1051 00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:24.960 seems like every other rainbow I see has a second 1052 00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:27.280 one above it or below it. And I do believe 1053 00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.079 that's because of kim Trail's gonna be one hundred percent honest, 1054 00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:30.760 which sir. 1055 00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:34.360 I do. I do think kim trails create a lot 1056 00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:38.559 of rainbows. You know, I've seen a lot of Why 1057 00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:40.920 can't I some helos and and I think you know, 1058 00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:43.719 people are people are will message me all the time 1059 00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:45.920 and like, look, it's evidence of the firm, and I'm like, actually, 1060 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:48.920 I'm pretty sure that's just being caused from the chem trails. 1061 00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:51.559 So I, even though we see it a little differently, 1062 00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:52.679 I can agree with you on that. 1063 00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:53.639 Yeah. 1064 00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:56.760 I had done a cool experiment where I cannot reproduce 1065 00:51:56.800 --> 00:52:03.320 a curved rainbow inside because there wasn't a curved prism. 1066 00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:08.119 So what I would do do a hose pipe outside 1067 00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:09.960 and you gotta get the type that goes from like 1068 00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:11.840 a jet stream that you loosen up and it goes 1069 00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:14.320 to like a full cone spray. Yeah, go to the 1070 00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:16.599 light cone during the sunlight. You can make a full 1071 00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:18.159 three sixty rainbow. 1072 00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:20.519 But only outside. Try that. 1073 00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:22.599 It's with sunlight. If you do that with if you 1074 00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:24.400 could do that with white light. But I mean, if 1075 00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:27.840 you're gonna spray a hose inside like that, you could. 1076 00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:30.400 If you get to your garage you have a white 1077 00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:33.000 like a white spectrum light being shown, you can make 1078 00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:34.679 it a three sixty rainbow inside. 1079 00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:38.039 You'll have to show me that because I try very 1080 00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:42.719 hard to reproduce a curved or round rounded rainbow inside, 1081 00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:46.360 you know, without the dome above us, the stme right 1082 00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:50.840 here on. Yeah, that's it wasn't reproducible. So if you 1083 00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:53.639 can show me that, I would. I'd love to see it, Yeah. 1084 00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:57.159 Because otherwise was even doing that experiment. But that's kind 1085 00:52:57.159 --> 00:52:58.559 of an interesting one, okay. 1086 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:00.519 But if that was the case, wouldn't you always see 1087 00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:01.679 a rainbow when you're in the shower. 1088 00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:05.280 You know, there's the lights in your bathroom were not 1089 00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:07.079 white light? Some are, some aren't. 1090 00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:09.559 I did it just with my sink and couldn't get 1091 00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:10.920 any sort of curvature to it. 1092 00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:13.639 I'll tell you what you ever, during Christmas time, we're 1093 00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:15.480 coming up on that season. You know those glasses that 1094 00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:17.599 you can get to where they'll make like little rainbow 1095 00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:20.280 snowmen or whatever. As you're looking at all the Christmas lights, 1096 00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:24.239 those are prisms that are taking white light and refracting 1097 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:26.199 it into rainbows right there. 1098 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:26.760 By your eyeballs. 1099 00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.639 So you could take that and look at white light 1100 00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:32.000 to see what kind is and is not, and to 1101 00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:34.679 do the type of experiment. I mean, if you had 1102 00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:37.440 a light that was bright enough and you sprayed a hose. 1103 00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:42.119 In theory, you could recreate a three sixty rainbow inside. 1104 00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:44.960 But now that you mentioned it, I don't. I can't 1105 00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:47.000 say that I've ever seen this done. 1106 00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:49.719 Cult members, we need you to do your homework and 1107 00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:53.119 you know, hit us up on you. Yeah, right, that 1108 00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:56.599 would be a pretty interesting theory. And you know what 1109 00:53:57.199 --> 00:53:59.280 you know, whenever I was going down the whole flat 1110 00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:02.119 Earth rabbit hole years ago, one of my favorite flat 1111 00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:05.360 earthers that I loved watching. I'm sure you know of him, 1112 00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:08.119 at least Daryl Marble. You ever heard of him? 1113 00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:10.000 I don't know, no, no, I don't. 1114 00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:13.480 Okay, black dude, coole as fuck, But anyway, he would 1115 00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:17.639 he showed that whenever he was trying to prove that 1116 00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:21.400 whenever you're in an airplane, it uh, you're it's proving 1117 00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:23.800 that you're going across a flat surface. Because what he 1118 00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:26.480 did was he brought one of those like a like 1119 00:54:26.519 --> 00:54:29.760 a flat level onto the plane, and you know, the 1120 00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:32.519 bubble just stayed in the center the entire way. And 1121 00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:34.199 that was the first time I had ever seen that 1122 00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:37.519 made me question, like, well, if you're if you're an 1123 00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:39.960 airplane and you're going over a flat surface, that's what 1124 00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:44.320 that's what would happen. And also if you're going over 1125 00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.519 a curvature, then you would see that bubble start to 1126 00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:49.199 dip and sure as sure as hell, like the entire 1127 00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:51.800 plane trip, you know it, it stayed right in the center. 1128 00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:53.760 So I was like, could this be some kind of 1129 00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:57.119 video manipulation. I ended up bringing a flat level on 1130 00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:59.800 with me to an airplane because I was flying from 1131 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.440 Louisiana to Arizona. Surely there's gonna be some kind of 1132 00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:04.760 curvature there, right and go up and. 1133 00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:07.639 Go down there probably was when you're flying in the sky. 1134 00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:08.800 It's pretty level. 1135 00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:11.840 You flatten out after like ten minutes, though, is the point. 1136 00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:14.480 And you're only us ending and descending for about ten 1137 00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:17.239 minutes each, but the entire rest of the trip you're 1138 00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:21.039 staying flat. And so I thought, well, how is that possible? 1139 00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.320 Wouldn't we just fly off of the fucking ball? 1140 00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:23.719 You know? 1141 00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:26.760 And so I did it myself, and sure's house stayed 1142 00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:27.480 flat the whole way. 1143 00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:27.760 Dude. 1144 00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:30.480 Yeah, I mean, over the course of one hundred miles, 1145 00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:33.800 there should be over six thousand feet of curvature, So 1146 00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:36.039 you're going a little further than one hundred miles with 1147 00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:38.239 that trip, so there should you know, even though you're 1148 00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:40.960 going up and down, you're not really accounting for any 1149 00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:43.239 sort of curvature because you're going up and down those 1150 00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:44.679 same heights both times as. 1151 00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:49.159 Well, right right, not to did you imagine if it wasn't, dude, 1152 00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:52.000 your coke would be flying off the tray the entire trip. 1153 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.599 Dude, people's drinks would be spilling shit be wild. 1154 00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:56.519 Oh, it's a crazy thought to think that we live 1155 00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:58.679 on a flat ball. So yeah, I think that it 1156 00:55:58.719 --> 00:55:59.920 would be equally as crazy. 1157 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.000 That is pretty crazy. 1158 00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:06.639 That's that flat ball? What an idiot. I mean a 1159 00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:08.199 fucking round ball. There we go. 1160 00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:11.480 Hey, I wanted if you guys don't mind, I wanted 1161 00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:14.360 to jump back to something you said a little bit ago, Jacob, 1162 00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:16.760 just because it crossed my mind. I didn't get to 1163 00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:21.159 mention it. But I'm a big believer that the clones, 1164 00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:23.199 the whole clones thing, Like I was a big clones 1165 00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:26.400 guy for a while, and I honestly think that. And 1166 00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:28.639 you know, nothing against anyone who thinks this, but this 1167 00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:31.400 is just my opinion. I really think that that is 1168 00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:34.719 a sigh up to muddy the waters, to just really 1169 00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:38.280 take away from how simple it is and how simple 1170 00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:42.480 it's literally just people dressing as other people. And you know, 1171 00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:45.199 it's almost like Occam's Razor, Like, really, are do these 1172 00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:48.880 people all look like because they're cloned? Or is it 1173 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:53.039 just the same person with prosthetics on and looking a 1174 00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:55.840 little different yet the same? So I just I wanted 1175 00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:58.760 to touch on that and not or not forget to 1176 00:56:58.760 --> 00:56:59.239 get back. 1177 00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:01.320 To it would be easy or to just have a 1178 00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:04.679 different person play that role. I could see that, especially well. 1179 00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:06.679 Dude, jestarticularly, how is that easier? 1180 00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:09.840 You've seen the mass technology they have nowadays, Dude, it's 1181 00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:13.320 fucking pinpoint on the nose, dude. As far as like 1182 00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:14.280 how good they are. 1183 00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:17.599 It tasts like six hours worth of makeup to get 1184 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:19.800 them like presentable to go on set for a couple 1185 00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:21.360 of hours. Now, if we're talking about like a big 1186 00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:24.039 speech or something, yo, I'm with you one hundred percent. 1187 00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:26.519 Could be an actor in a costume, but for like 1188 00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:29.199 the long engagements and shit, the long outings that you 1189 00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:31.280 see this person in. And it's like, I'm not saying 1190 00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:34.760 it's impossible by any means, but it's like that seems 1191 00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:38.800 easier to have this person be acted by somebody now, 1192 00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:41.480 maybe like an obscure actor, not like Brad Pitt's not 1193 00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:44.239 playing everybody, you know what I mean, but like some 1194 00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:48.239 obscure actor, some Manchurian candidate off or the Mandarin excuse 1195 00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:50.039 me off of like Iron Man. Dude got a little 1196 00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:52.039 bit of plastic surgery and now he's just kind of 1197 00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:53.159 living as that role. 1198 00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:59.360 But what I'm saying is, uh, even the idea of 1199 00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:01.480 clones is what I'm saying. I think that's a total 1200 00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:02.840 sigh up. Like when you think of. 1201 00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:05.159 You know, you'll believe clones are real at all. 1202 00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:09.320 No, that's what I'm saying, I think that's total, total, 1203 00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:10.480 total nonsense. 1204 00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:13.119 Mack pedal a bit here. Hold on, what about Dolly 1205 00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:13.599 the sheep? 1206 00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:16.400 Now, we do know they did successfully clone an animal 1207 00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:21.519 at least once upon a time like that's confirmed confirmed, it. 1208 00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:22.199 Was back in the day. 1209 00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:24.599 It was decades ago, okay, but confirmed by where the 1210 00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:26.920 same people that told me I lived on a globe. 1211 00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:29.360 And it's kind of funny that they just happened to 1212 00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:34.159 clone a sheep, kind of like, hey, these sheep will 1213 00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:36.800 believe anything we tell them, just saying. 1214 00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:39.920 Of all animals to Yeah, that is interesting. 1215 00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:42.320 Now, what do you say about the UK lab that 1216 00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:45.079 just got shut down two years ago because they weren't 1217 00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:48.639 allowed to clone human DNA. The government told them to stop, 1218 00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:50.599 then they continue, so the government actually had to come 1219 00:58:50.599 --> 00:58:53.400 and shut down the lab. It's like they're guaranteed that 1220 00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:56.000 we know for sure they're cloning DNA. Now we don't 1221 00:58:56.039 --> 00:58:59.440 know if we're talking some live tissue, a whole organ, 1222 00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:03.400 a whole person, like to what degree, into what scope 1223 00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:06.920 you know, conjecture can go, but we do know that 1224 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:08.920 they are doing this to the point where they legally 1225 00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:09.880 had to be stopped. 1226 00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:15.440 Well, I mean again, it's cool story. You know, I 1227 00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:17.599 think they've been planning the idea of clones for a 1228 00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:20.639 long time. I think Jurassic Park was literally, you know, 1229 00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:25.280 to push the dinosaurs and to push cloning because maybe 1230 00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:27.599 they realized how much they were going to be putting 1231 00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:30.519 these other people into costumes. And I mean, if you 1232 00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:34.400 really think maybe there a thing, right, yeah, yeah for sure. Okay, 1233 00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:36.800 so let me say that. I do think you can 1234 00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:41.079 obviously grow a being in something other than like a 1235 00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:45.559 mother's womb, and there is such thing as DNA and 1236 00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:46.440 you can like. 1237 00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:48.719 Fertilized slicing in that kind of shit. 1238 00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:51.920 I do not believe in like three D printing a clone. 1239 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:54.480 Like you know, anyone who was saying like Kanye West 1240 00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:57.000 was a clone, Like, well, they didn't just like go 1241 00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:01.599 create another Kanye. Maybe there were, you know, thirty years 1242 01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:07.039 ago they created a very similar DNA being. But I'm 1243 01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:09.519 what I'm saying is like they're not just going and 1244 01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:13.639 replacing someone in the moment that's fully grown. As a point, 1245 01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:15.880 I think people really think that. I think I think 1246 01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:19.519 people fully are like, well they replaced them with a clone. Well, no, 1247 01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:21.719 they just replaced him with a guy wearing a mask 1248 01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:22.960 that looks like Kanye. 1249 01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:25.920 I think even using like eugenics, you're not going to 1250 01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:27.039 get one hundred percent. 1251 01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:29.960 Well no, but that's why they like go crazy for 1252 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.159 six months before they disappear for a while and then 1253 01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:34.559 they come back on new that's six months Agoing crazy 1254 01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:36.239 is when the guys at the top are like, all right, 1255 01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.719 time to start growing the next one. They go away 1256 01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:40.920 for a year or two whatever, then come back and 1257 01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:43.159 there's so much healthier and it's like, wait. 1258 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:46.960 What now, it's all mind manipulation. It's all part of 1259 01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:51.639 the show and part of the script. Again, in my opinion, yeah, 1260 01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:52.079 I want you. 1261 01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:52.440 Want you. 1262 01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:54.880 I mean, if you really think about it, that is 1263 01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:58.280 something that you know, if we are to just believe 1264 01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:00.639 that the clones are a real thing, and look, we 1265 01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:03.239 speculate on clones all the time. We speculate on them 1266 01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:07.440 malfunctioning and you know, could this person be that that 1267 01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:10.440 person or did they just make another clone. We always 1268 01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:12.840 joke about Joe Biden. You know, they're on version nine 1269 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:14.559 of them right now and shit like that. 1270 01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:17.440 What about animatronics, what are your thoughts on this? Now? 1271 01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:19.679 We had we talked about Katy Perry on stage having 1272 01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:23.039 that glitch malfunction and all that shit. Certain people said, oh, 1273 01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.440 she was a clone. Certain people are saying, no, bro, 1274 01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:27.559 it's straight up chuck e cheese animatronics. 1275 01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:28.920 What's your take on this, tyler? 1276 01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:32.800 My take is that was nicely scripted to get people 1277 01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:36.360 talking about it and thinking there are clones and animatronics 1278 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:39.239 that are so lifelike that we can't tell them apart. 1279 01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:41.039 I think it's all so you do not believe that 1280 01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:42.199 that was a robot? 1281 01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:44.840 No, I think that was Katy Perry fucking with us. 1282 01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:48.280 As we're going to get millions of people thinking that 1283 01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:51.320 Katy Perry is a clone. But I, you know, maybe 1284 01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:53.639 that was Katie someone else in a mask. I'm a 1285 01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:58.679 big believer in masks and deception and deception at all levels, 1286 01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:01.639 you know, like all whistleblower, all people like Ryan Garcia, 1287 01:02:02.039 --> 01:02:05.199 They're all part of the club to me. And I think, 1288 01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:07.559 you know, I don't know what the script is. I 1289 01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:10.360 don't know if it's AI generated from one hundred or 1290 01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:13.880 two hundred years ago, Lucifer in the Bottomless Pit typing 1291 01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:18.239 up his script for end times or what. But yeah, 1292 01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:21.599 not a believer in clones, not a believer in that 1293 01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:24.159 at all. Really, you know, and the way mainstream presents it, 1294 01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:27.679 especially when you look at just how mainstream it's really become. 1295 01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:32.400 I mean, like normis know about clones now, so that's like, yeah, something's. 1296 01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:35.320 Out right, And getting on the whole clone conversation, we 1297 01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:38.719 talked about how Eminem could have possibly been a clone before, right, 1298 01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:41.360 or maybe he isn't a clone, or maybe he died 1299 01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:42.719 back in two thousand and one. 1300 01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:44.639 Or whatever the case is, but like maybe. 1301 01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:49.119 Right, but like if you remember that video of Eminem, 1302 01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:53.800 he was on like NCAA football game Day or something 1303 01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:55.679 like that with Brent Musburger, and he seemed like he 1304 01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:58.360 was fucking just glitching out right. We watched that video. 1305 01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:03.440 But but somebody said that actually, no, he wasn't. That 1306 01:03:03.559 --> 01:03:06.360 was just part of like him trying to sell more 1307 01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:09.480 more CDs and stuff back then, because I guess it 1308 01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:13.679 was pertaining to that kind of animatronic whatever. But I 1309 01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:17.320 mean if that was just an act, then now you're 1310 01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:20.039 looking at this whole thing differently, like all right, maybe 1311 01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:23.079 he wasn't, you know, just a clone that was being manipulated. 1312 01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:26.480 Maybe he wasn't just a fucking fembot or whatever that 1313 01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:28.840 that there is something that he was just acting on it. 1314 01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:30.719 And if he's acting on it, well, now we're looking 1315 01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:34.159 at cloning in a different way. Because the majority of 1316 01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:36.159 the time, at least as far as my mind goes, 1317 01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:38.559 whenever I think of clone, my mind instantly goes to 1318 01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:39.840 eminem you know. 1319 01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:42.840 Yeah, And I think a lot of people think that 1320 01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:44.880 with Biden too, and you know, like you guys kind 1321 01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:46.800 of even mentioned it, and yeah, I just think it's 1322 01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:49.679 I think it's a lot simpler than that. I think 1323 01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:53.000 it's just a smaller group of people. And you know, 1324 01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:54.519 I think that's a big reason why they do it. 1325 01:03:54.559 --> 01:03:57.559 If you can deceive the masses with five hundred people 1326 01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:00.679 instead of five thousand people, well then there's a lot 1327 01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:02.320 of people or a lot less people that you got 1328 01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:04.960 to keep in the know and keep quiet and keep 1329 01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:07.960 the secrets, keep the cult secrets, keep the you know, 1330 01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:11.079 like everything that they're lying about in house. A lot 1331 01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:14.400 easier for if you get a you know, one for three, 1332 01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:17.079 every one person's playing three people. And I think they're 1333 01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:20.880 all doing it. I think every single person on TV 1334 01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:23.800 is playing another role of some kind. I really do. 1335 01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:27.400 I mean, if you think about like even stage magic, right, like, uh, 1336 01:04:27.559 --> 01:04:30.440 this is the main reason why the stage magicians won't 1337 01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:33.800 tell you, you know, their secrets, like David Blaine and fucking 1338 01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:34.920 whatever the other ones are. 1339 01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:35.880 The reason they won't. 1340 01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:37.599 Tell you their secrets is because they want you to 1341 01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:40.760 believe in the illusion. Right, So the whenever you're seeing it, 1342 01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:42.960 like you think that a woman's being chopped in half, 1343 01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:45.920 or you think that you know, a man is staying 1344 01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:49.159 in a fucking fish tank for an hour and he 1345 01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:51.480 can breathe through it, or whatever the case may be. 1346 01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:55.000 But it's it all is kind of like on the 1347 01:04:55.079 --> 01:04:59.559 surface like reality, and in their reality is that they're 1348 01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:02.679 showing an illusion. But it's actually really easy to deceive 1349 01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:07.880 the human eyes, right, Like that's something that they have perfected, 1350 01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:11.199 is to deceive what your eyes are showing you. And 1351 01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:13.039 if you put this on a large scale, you take 1352 01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:14.679 it out to Hollywood, the Holly Tree. 1353 01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:16.000 You know, we talked about. 1354 01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:20.400 How that's you know, that's that's like something that that 1355 01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:23.199 that's that's what they do is just lie and deceive 1356 01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:26.159 in order to get your imagination going. And so would 1357 01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:28.400 it be that crazy that all the actors are just 1358 01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:30.960 kind of, you know, putting on an illusion. I mean, 1359 01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:33.159 why would it be that you would have to go 1360 01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:36.119 to Zachary King back in the nineties and and fuck 1361 01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:38.400 a horse or get fucked by a horse, just to 1362 01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:42.320 go and and be like an actor or a musician 1363 01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:44.639 or something like that. Like why would you have to 1364 01:05:44.679 --> 01:05:46.360 go through all that if that's all you're gonna do, 1365 01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:48.559 if you weren't going to portray it for the rest 1366 01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:50.199 of your life. And I guess that's where I'm at 1367 01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:52.679 with the whole thing, Like, if you're signing up to 1368 01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:54.159 do all that, you're selling your soul. 1369 01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:55.719 You're not doing it just to be an actor. 1370 01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:58.760 It's gonna it's gonna basically like you know, uh, you're 1371 01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:00.960 gonna you're taking on a role for life. It's not 1372 01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:02.760 just whenever you're behind a camera. 1373 01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:04.920 Right, And I think that's part of it too, if 1374 01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:07.599 you know, if you spent part of your acting career 1375 01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:11.000 or you know, you're currently acting and you're portraying two 1376 01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:13.400 different people, if that ever gets out there, if you 1377 01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:17.800 ever like, hey, you know, Brad Pitt tells like nobody 1378 01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:21.159 I'm also Benicio del Tour, Like these people are gonna 1379 01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:23.480 lose credibility of your life, Like you're done. If if 1380 01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:26.119 you were found out that you were actually both people. 1381 01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:28.280 So I do think that's part of it. I think 1382 01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:31.039 that's part of just kind of keeping it within houses. 1383 01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:34.480 If you play multiple roles, it's just another secret you 1384 01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:36.119 feel like you have to keep. 1385 01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:37.840 Which is interesting too. 1386 01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:40.760 You mentioned how I don't know if you mentioned on here, 1387 01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:45.039 if I just saw one of your videos about Kenneth Copeland, 1388 01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:47.920 who we talk about a lot on this show, the crazy, 1389 01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:50.199 crazy pastor priest, whatever the fuck he is. 1390 01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:54.760 And that there's something clearly wrong with that guy. 1391 01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:57.119 Like some people will say, oh, well, he's just an 1392 01:06:57.119 --> 01:06:59.960 overly exuberant kind of guy. He's got a crazy care 1393 01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:03.599 about him. But dude, I'm telling you that guy, whoever 1394 01:07:03.719 --> 01:07:07.559 is believing that guy like you, gotta check yourself because 1395 01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:09.760 there's no way that that guy should be convincing you 1396 01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:10.960 of fucking anything. 1397 01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:14.239 Agree, But hold on, hold on Now we haven't talked 1398 01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:16.840 about this, and and I'm curious Tyler, you being a 1399 01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:20.519 Christians or a whatever brand of Christianity. 1400 01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:21.599 I'm not. 1401 01:07:22.159 --> 01:07:25.000 I'm not a Churchyanity type of guy myself. I'm more 1402 01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:27.000 of a tick the Bible at its word. Do you 1403 01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:29.880 believe in having a personal relationship and all of that? 1404 01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:34.639 You know that being said, have y'all heard of what's 1405 01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:38.199 going down with the Bishop TD Jakes right now? 1406 01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:41.840 Uh yeah, I have not. 1407 01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:47.239 So he has been alleged with connections to P Diddy. 1408 01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:51.199 Now he actually has gone as far as to step 1409 01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:52.519 down from his church. 1410 01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:54.639 He no longer works for them. 1411 01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:56.880 It wasn't just a couple of allegations brought up and 1412 01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:59.800 he addressed it at a Sunday service. The man has 1413 01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:04.679 down from his position and has retired over whatever the 1414 01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:08.719 hell has been alligated against him alleged. 1415 01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:11.840 It seems like a lot of those televangelists are like 1416 01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:15.679 Little Nikki priests. That's what I think of. I think 1417 01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:18.319 that they're just like if you've seen Little Nikki and 1418 01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:21.279 the demon takes over the priest's body or the pastor's 1419 01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:21.960 body or whatever. 1420 01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:22.359 It's like. 1421 01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:25.000 I think that a lot of these people are really 1422 01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:27.319 just doing it for the fame. They're really just doing 1423 01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:29.560 it for the money. And yes, you can spit a 1424 01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:31.840 little bit on what's been talked about for the last 1425 01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:34.479 two thousand years. Who hasn't heard that same song and dance. 1426 01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:36.439 I'm not trying to shit on it, but like it's 1427 01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:38.760 a very well known story, at least for the people 1428 01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:41.199 that look into the Bible. It's like, I feel like 1429 01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:43.720 you could ramble on about that kind of thing while 1430 01:08:43.880 --> 01:08:46.880 also being pretty fucking sinister about it as well. 1431 01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:52.920 Well, No, look TD Jake's message. I've often enjoyed listening 1432 01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:55.479 to sermons. I'm gonna be honest with you. He has 1433 01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:58.239 a gift for oration, and he seems to know a 1434 01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:01.560 good bit about the book. But that doesn't mean that 1435 01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:05.479 he's an amazing person one hundred percent through. He is 1436 01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:08.359 just like everybody else, a center. He was born into 1437 01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:10.920 this sinful life, just like the rest of us. Nobody's perfect, 1438 01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:15.720 nobody's better than anybody else. But yeah, again, I don't 1439 01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:18.039 know to what level, into what extent, I don't know 1440 01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:21.479 if he was alleged at one party, if he was 1441 01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:23.800 on some sort of a flight list, I don't know 1442 01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:26.720 if it was every time did he came through his 1443 01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:29.479 town he stopped in like, I don't know the extent, 1444 01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:31.800 but whatever it was, it was serious enough for your 1445 01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:32.720 boy to leave Tyler. 1446 01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:36.279 Your thoughts, man, I have so many thoughts. First, I 1447 01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:38.840 just did a video on him today, but it was 1448 01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:41.760 there was a trifecta of Jake and I didn't The 1449 01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:43.680 funny thing is I didn't even know there was anything 1450 01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:46.680 going on with him. He just had He just happened 1451 01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:50.520 to tie in with Kenneth Copeland and U Joel tell. 1452 01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:53.159 Us strike when the Iron Is Hot Bro. The timing 1453 01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:54.520 on that one was beautiful. 1454 01:09:54.600 --> 01:09:57.119 Oh man, Well I had no idea. But here's the thing, though, 1455 01:09:57.199 --> 01:10:00.199 is I Man, I've been getting censored so much that 1456 01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:02.640 I've been putting a lot of my juicy content in 1457 01:10:02.720 --> 01:10:06.079 my subscriber only videos on all my platforms, on TikTok, 1458 01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:09.560 Facebook and Instagram specifically, and I did. I did a 1459 01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:12.479 little video with Kenneth Kenneth Copeland and how I think 1460 01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:15.239 that he is full on Bradley Cooper playing that role 1461 01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:19.119 in a mask and that's available for everyone, but the 1462 01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:23.239 like juicier parts of it. Also thinking that Jake's is 1463 01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:27.439 being played by Samuel L. Jackson is on my subscriber 1464 01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:34.239 only video and Joel Olstein I think potentially might be 1465 01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:41.840 Martin Shore or potentially even who is the other one? 1466 01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:48.399 I was thinking he maybe maybe even Andy Dick. Yes, 1467 01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:53.000 there was something else I wanted to respond to in 1468 01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:56.640 that and I got I can't remember. Oh so, and 1469 01:10:56.760 --> 01:10:59.960 not to go on here, but these are my thoughts again, 1470 01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:02.279 you know, I think outside the box lot. I like 1471 01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:06.239 to question everything. I think, you know, the Diddy stuff 1472 01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:10.399 to me is I question it all because you know, 1473 01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:12.680 like they one of the things they talked about was 1474 01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:16.680 how he potentially set up the Tupac murder and things 1475 01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:18.399 like that, and I'm like, I know for a fact 1476 01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:21.279 Tupac is alive. I prove Tupac is alive. I've done 1477 01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:25.439 videos on it. I've found, like, in my opinion, indisputable 1478 01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:28.960 evidence that Tupac is still alive. So when they're like 1479 01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:32.720 Diddy paid to kill Tupac, and I'm like, well, that's 1480 01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:35.039 a lie because Tupac's alive. So I don't believe any 1481 01:11:35.079 --> 01:11:37.159 of the rest of it. Now. That's not to say 1482 01:11:37.239 --> 01:11:40.159 that there aren't bad people doing really bad things, but 1483 01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:43.039 I think that they just use this stuff and they're like, 1484 01:11:43.039 --> 01:11:45.119 there's going to be a list just like the Epstein list, 1485 01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:47.399 and none of that shit's ever released. Is just to 1486 01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:51.239 get us thinking that they're doing something about it. They're 1487 01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:54.880 bad people and we're going to expose them, and you know, 1488 01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:57.319 there are good people behind the scenes doing it, and 1489 01:11:57.359 --> 01:11:59.560 in my opinion, it's all bullshit to get us to 1490 01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:02.600 sit on hands and not take action ourselves and that 1491 01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:05.399 you know, like I said, my opinion, but that's where 1492 01:12:05.439 --> 01:12:07.319 my head's at with with a lot of that stuff. 1493 01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:11.199 And all these evangelist preachers I think are all phony, 1494 01:12:11.239 --> 01:12:13.319 blooney actors in masks. 1495 01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:16.520 So let me ask you, at what point does a 1496 01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:17.840 church become too. 1497 01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:21.359 Big when they put the title global on it? How 1498 01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:21.880 about that? 1499 01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:23.159 Damn? 1500 01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:27.840 Okay, no, no, we're all alike in the sands somewhere. 1501 01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:30.039 It's got to be somewhere. I'm listening, so like, hold on, 1502 01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:33.560 we're not talking about like your local church having a 1503 01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:37.279 outreach in Africa at some local school or something, right, 1504 01:12:37.319 --> 01:12:40.119 and then you call yourself some international we're talking like that, 1505 01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:42.720 or we're talking about when it gets on TV, like 1506 01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:46.640 that's that's always been my thing, Right, There's a level 1507 01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:49.680 where it becomes more of a lights, camera action production 1508 01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:53.680 versus a sermon. And there's like a fine line there. 1509 01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:56.479 And I don't have a problem with having a camera crew. 1510 01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:59.560 Let's say you're streaming it online so that members of 1511 01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:03.279 your church that are sick can still watch it that day. Like, okay, fine, 1512 01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:06.520 within a reasonable level, I see this, right. 1513 01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:09.800 It's whenever big money gets involved. I think like huge 1514 01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:14.319 amounts of mass wealth gets involved that you gotta start 1515 01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:17.239 scratching your head because I mean, is that much like 1516 01:13:17.359 --> 01:13:18.640 tithe money really coming in? 1517 01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:19.840 Dude? 1518 01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:22.880 I think I heard somewhere that it's more like a 1519 01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:25.760 tenth of the church actually is paying their tithe like 1520 01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:28.720 they're supposed to. So if we're talking like a tenth 1521 01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:33.119 of a tenth of your congregationous earnings coming to you, 1522 01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:36.439 like I forget which church us locally, I was talking 1523 01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:39.119 with somebody about this. I asked them how big their 1524 01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:41.359 congregation is, and they told me it was about like 1525 01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:44.000 fourteen thousand something like that. 1526 01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:44.560 Damn. 1527 01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:47.520 So if and you look at the median household income 1528 01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:50.199 for this area that we're talking about here and all 1529 01:13:50.199 --> 01:13:52.159 of that, and so let's say that only a tenth 1530 01:13:52.159 --> 01:13:55.119 of them are actually doing that. This place is still 1531 01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:59.000 making like I think it was like over two million 1532 01:14:00.279 --> 01:14:03.000 profit a year, and there's a tax free entity. 1533 01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:04.000 Keep that in mind. 1534 01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:07.079 So like all this and it's like, well, well where's 1535 01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:09.079 that money going, It's like, well, okay, look, let's just 1536 01:14:09.119 --> 01:14:09.640 assume that. 1537 01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:10.600 The grounds aren't paid for. 1538 01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:13.800 Let's assume the building is still being paid off. Let's 1539 01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:16.399 let's assume Okay, some utilities and this and this, and 1540 01:14:16.399 --> 01:14:18.159 you can chunk that away, but then you get to 1541 01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:21.520 the bottom of it, there is still usually a very 1542 01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:23.680 large amount of money at the end of every year, like, well, 1543 01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:26.319 where is that going? Well, it's supposed to be going 1544 01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:29.319 towards the work of the church, right, They're supposed to 1545 01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:32.439 be using that and reaching people and spreading the word 1546 01:14:32.479 --> 01:14:36.399 and all these things. But you'll see certain churches that 1547 01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:40.520 the pastor is driving a Bentley and you know, somehow 1548 01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:44.439 that's acceptable while members of his church are driving around 1549 01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:45.640 in a sedan that's. 1550 01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:48.199 Got an oil leak, and like somehow, you know, hey, 1551 01:14:48.279 --> 01:14:48.720 who am I? 1552 01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:51.319 What's the big one in Baton Rouge. They're off of 1553 01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:54.399 what is it? Bluebonnet? There's that one church. 1554 01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:56.239 It's like like healing place. 1555 01:14:56.239 --> 01:14:59.279 Not healing place, the one kind of closer to what 1556 01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:01.279 am I thinking of, like kind of closer to Perkins. 1557 01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:03.039 Oh now, not talking about Bethany. 1558 01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:03.960 Huh Bethany. 1559 01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:06.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, They're not as big as Healing Place. 1560 01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:09.119 I'm gonna be honest with you, dude, as far as like, 1561 01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:11.960 especially with the amount of campuses on the global reach 1562 01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:15.439 and all these things. They're not an arc church, but 1563 01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:18.880 healing place is and that's that's all the Association of 1564 01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:23.920 Related Churches, that's that non denominational think tank, if you will. 1565 01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:25.680 Right, right, well, I mean just looking at some of 1566 01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:28.399 these crazy televangelists like you you know, we were just 1567 01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:30.960 on the topic of Kenneth Copeland. I mean how he 1568 01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:33.840 bought Tyler's Tyler Perry's plane, and he was like, well 1569 01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:37.600 I had to he made it so cheap. And it's like, dude, 1570 01:15:37.640 --> 01:15:40.520 you fucking bought a plane, bro, Like, I don't think 1571 01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:42.880 you're supposed to be making god level money as a 1572 01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:44.319 pastor or a priest or whatever. 1573 01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:45.359 Right you know. 1574 01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:48.520 Tyler Perry's another one of those interesting examples, like like, 1575 01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:51.119 you know, he's not allowed to his daddy's church, right. 1576 01:15:52.119 --> 01:15:57.920 Well, shit, he has been openly gay back home, and 1577 01:15:57.960 --> 01:16:00.239 like he's not allowed to his dad's church, and he 1578 01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:02.119 goes on there and starts doing his own media. 1579 01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:05.479 Shit, He's like found a reason to dress in drag. 1580 01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:07.800 That's all it ever was for him, bro, And he 1581 01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:10.079 used it as a way to do a quote unquote 1582 01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:12.319 ministry or whatever. But then you look at him as 1583 01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:15.119 the guy and it's like oh oh, and then I'm 1584 01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:17.399 hearing things about him being wrapped up in this diddy 1585 01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:20.239 shit and it's just like, ah haha, hold many things. 1586 01:16:20.399 --> 01:16:22.680 You said. Tyler Perry is who Will Smith? 1587 01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:26.479 Yeah? I think he's one of Will Smith's characters for sure. 1588 01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:29.239 Whoa which if. 1589 01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:31.000 Research that one on TikTok when you get a chance. 1590 01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:32.840 I haven't done a video on that one, but uh, 1591 01:16:33.039 --> 01:16:36.079 I think there's some good stuff on TikTok that Will. 1592 01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:39.720 You'll be like, there's at least a fifty to fifty 1593 01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:41.920 shot that Tyler Perry is Will Smith. 1594 01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:43.920 Which isn't that crazy if you really think about it. 1595 01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:46.720 I mean Will Smith and Bad Boys right next to 1596 01:16:46.720 --> 01:16:48.680 Martin Lawrence who played Big Mama. 1597 01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:52.640 Right, So, did you see my Martin Lawrence is Cedric 1598 01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:54.159 the Entertainer I did yesterday? 1599 01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:58.720 Yes, Oh dude, that's Cedric the Entertainer. Like whenever at 1600 01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:01.600 the Mike Tyson and then Jake Paul fight, I was like, 1601 01:17:01.720 --> 01:17:04.119 something is off with this guy. Maybe he's just getting 1602 01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:06.359 a little heftier, maybe he's getting a little bit older. 1603 01:17:07.319 --> 01:17:09.920 I saw it's just because everybody's looking through his bullshit. 1604 01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:12.880 Ever since Kat Williams basically blasted the fact that he's 1605 01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:17.119 talentless and always has been. Now that everybody he's he's 1606 01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:20.079 going and doing these public appearances and like no one 1607 01:17:20.119 --> 01:17:22.680 gives a fuck. Nobody's like excited to hear from Cedric 1608 01:17:22.720 --> 01:17:26.119 the Entertainer. You know, it's I don't know. I thought 1609 01:17:26.159 --> 01:17:28.239 that was just why he just kind of seemed off. 1610 01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:32.199 He should just, like, you know, take on the barbershop character. 1611 01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:34.479 Whenever he was in barbershop. That was like my favorite 1612 01:17:34.520 --> 01:17:35.880 version of Cedric the Entertainer. 1613 01:17:35.960 --> 01:17:38.399 I thought, just be that when you walk out of 1614 01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:40.960 your house every day, bro, that that's pretty much it. 1615 01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:42.840 That's all it's expected. You know. 1616 01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:46.720 I hit someone in my comments with the Theater Entertainer. 1617 01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:48.800 They're like, dude, you're an idiot. They're in the same 1618 01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:51.640 movie together, him, Martin Lawrenson. They're like, have you ever 1619 01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:54.560 seen you know, what's one of the movies where Eddie 1620 01:17:54.600 --> 01:17:56.279 Murphy plays like ten characters. 1621 01:17:56.279 --> 01:17:59.119 It's the Clumps or like they're literally. 1622 01:17:58.800 --> 01:18:03.640 Telling us in the movie is that it's happening? Well, yeah, 1623 01:18:04.159 --> 01:18:06.800 that's right, Yeah, it's like ten different characters, or Mike 1624 01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:09.760 Myers and all his you know, the gold Member Austin 1625 01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:14.199 Powers movies, Like that's them telling us and you know, 1626 01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:16.399 real quick, just to mention that you asked that question 1627 01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:18.119 of the church thing. I kind of look at churches 1628 01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:19.239 like I do schools. 1629 01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:19.439 Now. 1630 01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:21.760 You know, I think they're all broken, I really do. 1631 01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:24.640 I think they've all been created with the same kind 1632 01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:28.760 of indoctrination and lies that the public school system has. 1633 01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:31.640 And I, you know, I'm a believer and like you said, 1634 01:18:31.720 --> 01:18:34.399 having a relationship with God. I'm a big believer in 1635 01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:37.359 the Bible. And yes, I still do think there's manipulation. 1636 01:18:37.479 --> 01:18:39.039 I think there are books that have been taken out. 1637 01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:41.359 I think, you know, they take the word firmament out 1638 01:18:41.399 --> 01:18:44.800 and replace it with space or expanse, and you know, 1639 01:18:44.920 --> 01:18:48.960 even something as simple as the old Bibles, and even 1640 01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:52.960 like the Lord's Prayer used to say our Father in 1641 01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:56.159 Earth and now it says on Earth. And so there's 1642 01:18:56.520 --> 01:19:01.079 there's manipulation for sure. So I think I think churches 1643 01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:03.359 need to go away. I think public schools need to 1644 01:19:03.399 --> 01:19:07.800 go away, start fresh, start with truth. And you know, 1645 01:19:07.880 --> 01:19:09.680 like like I said, I didn't believe in God for 1646 01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:12.520 forty two years because I went to Catholic Church and 1647 01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:13.720 I went to public school. 1648 01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:19.199 Yeah, dude, I mean all right, so a lot of 1649 01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:21.640 the flat earthers that we've had on here in the past. 1650 01:19:21.680 --> 01:19:25.920 They'll say, well, you know, look, my flat earth belief 1651 01:19:26.239 --> 01:19:28.439 led me to believe in the Bible, because there's a 1652 01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:30.000 lot of things that may correlate. 1653 01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:32.880 And you know, other people will say, well, that's just 1654 01:19:32.920 --> 01:19:34.199 how they worded it back then. 1655 01:19:34.279 --> 01:19:37.279 They weren't talking about the actual four corners because there's 1656 01:19:37.279 --> 01:19:39.800 no corners on a ball and shit like that. Like 1657 01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:44.119 Jacob is actually somebody who disagrees with that heavily as 1658 01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:46.239 far as you know, the references to flat earth and 1659 01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:49.720 the Bible. And I mean that's the thing, you know, 1660 01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:52.680 like especially both of you, you know, you're both Christians. 1661 01:19:52.760 --> 01:19:54.760 You both say that you believe in the Word and 1662 01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:56.840 and it's like, all right, well you can believe in it, 1663 01:19:56.880 --> 01:19:59.920 but like from what perspective. That's the thing is that 1664 01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:02.399 there's so many different perspectives you can look at it. 1665 01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:04.640 I mean, the same you that was reading the Bible, 1666 01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:08.079 and Jacob, I'm pretty sure you've disagreed with this sentiment before. 1667 01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:10.720 But like if you read the Bible ten years ago 1668 01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:12.600 and now you're reading it in today, now it's looking 1669 01:20:12.600 --> 01:20:14.359 a little bit different, even though you're looking at the 1670 01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:18.000 same words. And you know, if the if, the if 1671 01:20:18.079 --> 01:20:21.399 the word was if if the word was holy or 1672 01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:23.880 the word was God, it was it was God back then, 1673 01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:25.800 it was it's God now, and it'll be God in 1674 01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:28.560 the future. Well, how come it seems like the perspective 1675 01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:31.920 is always changing, you know, like and and in that case, 1676 01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:34.840 how do you know the correct way in order to 1677 01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:37.479 interpret it? Is there a correct way to interpret it? 1678 01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:38.119 Kind of thing? 1679 01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:41.760 Well, you know, I kind of, like I said earlier, 1680 01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:44.840 I was never someone even though you know, like, let's 1681 01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:47.119 say this before I get into anything else, Okay, I 1682 01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:51.840 was never a big practicing you know, Christian. I went 1683 01:20:51.960 --> 01:20:53.439 you know, like I said, early on. I went to 1684 01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:55.960 public school early on, and I went to Catholic school 1685 01:20:56.119 --> 01:20:59.880 or not Catholic School, Sunday School, like we call it CCD. 1686 01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:02.199 And it was basically to get dreamed and push you 1687 01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:06.000 away after exactly. So you know, like that pushed me 1688 01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:09.079 away so fast. So I didn't really ever read the Bible, 1689 01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:11.359 you know, I never looked at it myself. I went 1690 01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:13.800 to Catechism and listened to what they said, and they 1691 01:21:13.880 --> 01:21:16.159 bored the crap out of me and never told me 1692 01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:18.880 about some of the cool stuff, like you know, the 1693 01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:20.960 giants that were in the earth in those days, and 1694 01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:27.399 dragons and things like that. So so I I never 1695 01:21:28.119 --> 01:21:31.560 really had an interpretation of it now, but if I did, 1696 01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:34.199 I would say it probably wasn't literal. And now I 1697 01:21:34.279 --> 01:21:37.199 take it very literally. So I think, you know, when 1698 01:21:37.239 --> 01:21:42.119 they say, yeah, I don't even know an example, I 1699 01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:44.079 need my buddy buddy Josh Monday, who I know, you 1700 01:21:44.119 --> 01:21:48.359 guys know, to kind of ring my biblical earth bell 1701 01:21:48.520 --> 01:21:50.000 for a. 1702 01:21:49.359 --> 01:21:54.119 Shout out to the Sunday service on. Josh Monday is 1703 01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:54.680 a great man. 1704 01:21:54.760 --> 01:21:57.279 Love Josh. He's one of the few very few people 1705 01:21:57.800 --> 01:21:59.960 in the truth or world that I actually just trust. 1706 01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:04.079 So he's just like the best guy too, one of 1707 01:22:04.119 --> 01:22:06.960 the nicest guys ever. Dude, Like there's something about him 1708 01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:10.159 that is just so pure and like holy you know, 1709 01:22:10.239 --> 01:22:12.840 whenever you hear him talking, he doesn't even cuss, Like 1710 01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:16.720 he's just like, you know, pretty pretty straight shooter. 1711 01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:17.239 I like that. 1712 01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:20.439 Yeah, love Josh. Shout out to Josh for sure. 1713 01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:25.560 But and that's I'm a kind of on I saw. 1714 01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:26.920 I was Catholic raised unce. 1715 01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:30.159 I was about fourteen twelve, fourteen somewhere in that. But 1716 01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:33.520 then my mother also was dabbling with pentecostal and with 1717 01:22:33.640 --> 01:22:37.000 Baptists and with non denomination at that time. So one 1718 01:22:37.039 --> 01:22:39.079 Sunday I would go to Mass, one Sunday I would 1719 01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:41.680 go to service, and bounce him back and forth until 1720 01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:43.920 I was around my teenage years and I went more 1721 01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:50.000 of the non denominational route. Now that being said, the 1722 01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:52.039 parts of the Bible where it does talk about the 1723 01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:54.840 flat earth, right, there's I saw somewhere that there's like 1724 01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:59.399 two hundred verses that confirm the flat earth. Out of 1725 01:22:59.439 --> 01:23:04.520 like seven thousand verses, there's two hundred to talk about 1726 01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:06.640 the shape of the Earth's. 1727 01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:08.760 That's how serious and how much like time. 1728 01:23:09.359 --> 01:23:11.479 I think God wanted us to spend on it that 1729 01:23:11.680 --> 01:23:14.760 much now, and I also take it to be a 1730 01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:17.520 fun talking point. And it's good to bounce these things 1731 01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:19.399 back and forth, because I do believe the Word is 1732 01:23:19.399 --> 01:23:23.159 supposed to be questioned and debated, and different philosophies and 1733 01:23:23.199 --> 01:23:25.560 thought processes are supposed to be brought to the table 1734 01:23:25.760 --> 01:23:28.680 about the Word. That's how we all find the true 1735 01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:31.920 meaning from all of the different angles. Right that being said, 1736 01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:35.680 it's not a salvation issue, right, Believing that we are 1737 01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:38.800 on a ball vers a flat plane of existence doesn't 1738 01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:41.039 take away from the blood of Jesus Christ. 1739 01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:43.399 Saving me from my sins, you know what I mean. 1740 01:23:43.439 --> 01:23:45.359 So it's one of those things where it's not worth 1741 01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:48.760 fighting over, but it's interesting. 1742 01:23:49.079 --> 01:23:52.840 It's however, however, if you're in my situation where you're 1743 01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:58.039 not a believer whatsoever, until you come to that realization 1744 01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:01.800 that you're not evolved, impo spinning ball. So I mean, 1745 01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:03.119 I hear what you're saying. 1746 01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:05.319 And if that's what it does, right, if it leads 1747 01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:07.319 you to the truth, then brother, I'm all here for 1748 01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:08.039 you know what I. 1749 01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:11.800 Mean, right right exactly, and you know, and I don't. 1750 01:24:11.960 --> 01:24:14.279 You know, Josh does a phenomenal job at what he does, 1751 01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:17.279 and I don't ever approach it, you know, Like I'll mention, 1752 01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:22.239 I actually mentioned the Bible more with like dragons, you know, 1753 01:24:22.359 --> 01:24:26.000 than I do with flat earth. Only because you could 1754 01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:29.039 have shown me a five thousand verses in the Bible 1755 01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:32.520 that mentioned flat Earth and it wouldn't have changed it. 1756 01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:34.840 I wouldn't have given it any credence. I needed to 1757 01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:36.720 see the science of it. I needed to see the 1758 01:24:37.399 --> 01:24:40.640 you know, every single science experiment that I could do 1759 01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:44.239 myself other people doing. I needed to see, like experience 1760 01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:46.840 the Earth with my own eyes and be looking at 1761 01:24:46.880 --> 01:24:49.560 it from a different perspective other than what I was 1762 01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:53.359 told to see the truth in the Bible. So, you know, 1763 01:24:53.399 --> 01:24:56.479 the biblical aspect doesn't really do much for me on 1764 01:24:56.560 --> 01:24:58.479 a flat earth thing. It's a great tool to have 1765 01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:02.119 in my pocket for people are already believers in the Bible, 1766 01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:05.880 but it's not something I focus on to true or 1767 01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:06.880 to prove lat earth. 1768 01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:09.239 So talk to me about dragons. 1769 01:25:09.279 --> 01:25:11.680 Now, they talk about that in the OT a little bit, 1770 01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:13.840 and they bring up a couple of things in prophetic 1771 01:25:14.159 --> 01:25:16.600 or dreamlike things that could be considered dragons. 1772 01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:20.399 Now, what is your take on dinosaurs? I am a. 1773 01:25:20.359 --> 01:25:23.439 Person who believed that the dragons that all these myths 1774 01:25:23.479 --> 01:25:27.000 and legends and religious texts talk about are what we 1775 01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:30.399 would see today as dinosaurs. But when they were describing 1776 01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:32.600 it back in the day, they were talking about dragons. 1777 01:25:33.119 --> 01:25:33.960 What is your take? 1778 01:25:35.479 --> 01:25:36.399 Yeah, I think. 1779 01:25:37.239 --> 01:25:39.960 Because John's I'm a completely different belief. He thinks dinosaurs 1780 01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:40.680 are faking gay. 1781 01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:43.319 Oh dude, so homosexual. 1782 01:25:43.880 --> 01:25:46.359 Yeah, I'm pretty much of that belief as well. Now 1783 01:25:46.359 --> 01:25:49.720 that that's not to say there weren't giant reptiles. I 1784 01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:55.600 personally have found an alligator probably the size of like 1785 01:25:55.640 --> 01:25:59.279 a yellow school bus in actually really close to the 1786 01:25:59.359 --> 01:26:03.880 George Bush compound in Kennebunk, Maine, literally found I don't 1787 01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:05.880 think anyone else has ever found this thing. It's huge. 1788 01:26:06.199 --> 01:26:09.079 I think there are there were giant animals here. I 1789 01:26:09.079 --> 01:26:11.960 think there were giant animals of all sorts of species. 1790 01:26:12.239 --> 01:26:15.119 I do not believe in bronosauruses and t rexes and 1791 01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:18.920 things like that. I do think most of the bones 1792 01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:22.039 and things that are found were either dragons or just 1793 01:26:22.119 --> 01:26:26.720 these giant reptiles or animals that we know of that 1794 01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:30.079 used to just be bigger because of different oxygen levels 1795 01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:33.279 or whatever here before the flood. So yeah, I'm definitely 1796 01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:36.199 of the belief that the dinosaur narrative that we are 1797 01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:40.119 told is just kind of like an evolution you know, 1798 01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:42.600 like a piece to their evolution puzzle that they try 1799 01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:43.359 to sell us. 1800 01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:47.039 Yeah, you would have to have dinosaurs if you're if 1801 01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:50.800 you're trying to really explain something that you know, like 1802 01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:55.159 large portions of history. Not necessarily you'd have to have dinosaurs, 1803 01:26:55.159 --> 01:26:57.399 but you'd have to have something that is so crazy, 1804 01:26:57.720 --> 01:27:01.720 so magnificent, so much proof to say, see, this is 1805 01:27:01.720 --> 01:27:05.399 how the Earth has changed and evolved over the course 1806 01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:06.439 of millions of years. 1807 01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:06.840 Or whatever. 1808 01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:09.319 You would have to have something crazy like that. But 1809 01:27:09.960 --> 01:27:11.560 all right, I was just on a little bit of 1810 01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:13.840 math because I'm kind of on one right now, and 1811 01:27:13.960 --> 01:27:17.439 I was looking at I was I was just curious, 1812 01:27:17.479 --> 01:27:20.239 now you made the notion. It wasn't your first time 1813 01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:24.119 making making that notion, Jacob, about how flat earth was 1814 01:27:24.279 --> 01:27:26.960 mentioned roughly around too. Let's just say it's mentioned two 1815 01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:29.359 hundred times in the Bible. And you know it was 1816 01:27:29.399 --> 01:27:31.199 only mentioned tw hundred times. It's not that big a 1817 01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:31.800 deal whatever. 1818 01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:32.039 Right. 1819 01:27:32.159 --> 01:27:35.159 I saw that I saw somewhere saying that it was 1820 01:27:35.199 --> 01:27:38.640 a list of two hundred verses that confirmed the flat Earth. 1821 01:27:38.840 --> 01:27:41.680 And I don't know if that's an exact number, but yeah. 1822 01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:45.560 Right, And I personally, if somebody tells me something two 1823 01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:48.279 hundred times, I think that it's probably a little bit important. 1824 01:27:48.359 --> 01:27:52.319 I think that it's not necessarily to just be disregarded 1825 01:27:52.680 --> 01:27:55.279 for sure. And and I just out of curiosity, I 1826 01:27:55.319 --> 01:27:59.119 went and I searched the exact amount of words that 1827 01:27:59.159 --> 01:28:02.720 are in the Bible. There are seven hundred and eighty 1828 01:28:02.720 --> 01:28:05.479 three thousand, one hundred and thirty seven words in the 1829 01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:10.000 King James Bible. Okay, And so then I was like, well, 1830 01:28:10.359 --> 01:28:12.880 how long would it be? How long would it take 1831 01:28:13.279 --> 01:28:17.319 to uh to speak seven hundred and eighty three thousand, 1832 01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:19.359 one hundred and thirty seven words. How long would it 1833 01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:23.319 take you if you were just consecutively saying that many 1834 01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:26.840 words in a row, and it equated to five two 1835 01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:29.000 hundred and twenty one minutes, which would equate to about 1836 01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:31.920 eighty seven hours. And in the span if you think 1837 01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:34.319 about that, if you were to read the Bible from 1838 01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:37.399 cover to cover, it would take you eighty seven hours roughly. 1839 01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:41.319 If you were, you know, reading at what was that pace? 1840 01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:44.760 I don't even know, but your retention would be just, 1841 01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:48.840 you know, eighty seven hours of reading it. 1842 01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:52.439 Not that's not that's that's impressive. That's if you are 1843 01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:56.479 speaking or reading at one hundred and fifty words per minute, 1844 01:28:56.520 --> 01:28:57.199 that's at that. 1845 01:28:57.159 --> 01:28:59.439 Pace, way faster than I could do. It would take 1846 01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:02.279 me probably a week of NonStop. Dude, I'm a slow 1847 01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:02.960 ass reader. 1848 01:29:03.039 --> 01:29:06.239 So if it was to take you eighty seven hours, 1849 01:29:06.279 --> 01:29:09.000 and over the course of eighty seven hours, somebody told 1850 01:29:09.039 --> 01:29:14.279 you one thing two hundred times, you would think, damn, 1851 01:29:14.319 --> 01:29:16.000 I feel like they're trying to tell me something. In 1852 01:29:16.039 --> 01:29:18.239 the course of eighty seven hours, somebody told you something 1853 01:29:18.279 --> 01:29:22.079 two hundred fucking times, you might think it might be 1854 01:29:22.079 --> 01:29:24.399 a little important. So I don't know how you just 1855 01:29:24.479 --> 01:29:26.159 easily disregard that then. 1856 01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:30.560 Because the entire book says multiple things like thousands of 1857 01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:33.479 times that are way more important. 1858 01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:35.880 Than that one thing two hundred times. That's what I'm saying. 1859 01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:38.199 It talks about how, like we're gonna get technical here, 1860 01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:41.680 Israel being property of the Jews. 1861 01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:46.600 It talks about that a whole hell of a lot. Sure, sure, 1862 01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:49.039 more than the Earth being flat, right right. 1863 01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:51.239 It also starts with it though, too. 1864 01:29:52.039 --> 01:29:55.800 Yeah, that's that's the thing is that it is mentioned 1865 01:29:55.840 --> 01:29:58.960 so many times. It's like literally in the beginning, like 1866 01:29:59.039 --> 01:30:03.520 that's how it starts, and like, you know, imagine like this, 1867 01:30:03.840 --> 01:30:07.359 you know, you talk about a story about how whenever 1868 01:30:07.479 --> 01:30:11.640 your kids were younger, your son touched the stove, right, like, 1869 01:30:11.880 --> 01:30:14.359 he touched it one time and he learned, like, all right, well, 1870 01:30:14.359 --> 01:30:16.600 I'm not gonna fucking make that mistake again, Like that's 1871 01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:18.760 that would be stupid to keep on burning myself. 1872 01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:19.920 Why do I need to keep on doing that? 1873 01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:22.119 Imagine if he did that two hundred fucking times, bro, 1874 01:30:22.159 --> 01:30:24.359 and he still didn't get it. You know what I'm saying, 1875 01:30:24.399 --> 01:30:27.720 you'd be thinking, you'd be thinking, my god, what is 1876 01:30:28.039 --> 01:30:31.199 do I have a malfunctioning son over here? Like he 1877 01:30:31.239 --> 01:30:33.640 doesn't get it? Like two hundred times you're touching this, 1878 01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:36.640 you're touching this hot stove. And so that's the point 1879 01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:38.439 that I'm trying to make is that you know, you 1880 01:30:38.479 --> 01:30:42.159 don't just out of the blue for no reason, not 1881 01:30:42.600 --> 01:30:44.680 like pay attention to that kind of thing. And at 1882 01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:47.039 that point, it's just like, you know, what is the 1883 01:30:47.119 --> 01:30:49.640 excuse as to why you don't believe it? If the 1884 01:30:49.680 --> 01:30:52.720 center and the core of all your beliefs are pointing that, 1885 01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:56.840 like where we're living at isn't necessarily a ball. 1886 01:30:57.279 --> 01:31:00.479 Because once again, if you read the Bible cover to 1887 01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:03.239 cover and the one takeaway you got from it was 1888 01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:05.399 that the earth is flat, then I have a very 1889 01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:08.920 fundamental issue with your knowledge gathering. 1890 01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:10.039 That's my point. 1891 01:31:10.119 --> 01:31:14.520 That's like reading to Kill a Mockingbird and you learned 1892 01:31:14.840 --> 01:31:17.600 the one thing you took away from it was the 1893 01:31:17.640 --> 01:31:19.000 proper cement mixture. 1894 01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:21.479 When he cemented the not hole in the tree. 1895 01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:24.720 Closed, No idea would be the equivalent like bro, No, 1896 01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:26.840 I'm not saying that's all you should take from it, 1897 01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:28.760 but it should be a thing that you take from it, 1898 01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:29.640 right is it? 1899 01:31:30.279 --> 01:31:32.439 Is it a thing we should take from it? Does 1900 01:31:32.479 --> 01:31:34.760 it matter in the grand scheme of it? Does it 1901 01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:37.920 matter on the salvation side of it to get somebody 1902 01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:39.079 to get to heaven? 1903 01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:41.640 It doesn't make a collective fuck. 1904 01:31:41.720 --> 01:31:44.359 Now, if it helps somebody come to the faith because 1905 01:31:44.399 --> 01:31:47.800 it resonates with them and it it harps on something 1906 01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:50.479 that means something to them, then I'm all for it. 1907 01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:53.439 But that doesn't mean that I also agree with it. 1908 01:31:53.479 --> 01:31:54.319 Well, let me ask you this. 1909 01:31:54.479 --> 01:31:58.319 If there were like cardinals and popes and biblical scholars 1910 01:31:58.359 --> 01:32:01.079 that you know, have confirmed yes, this is what the 1911 01:32:01.079 --> 01:32:04.279 Bible was talking about, it was talking about flat, does 1912 01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:06.840 that make you look at the Bible in a different way? 1913 01:32:07.079 --> 01:32:10.079 Because if it's wrong about that could be wrong about everything. 1914 01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:11.319 Is that why you don't accept it? 1915 01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:15.880 Those same cardinals that put Galileo on house arrest for 1916 01:32:16.119 --> 01:32:20.399 saying some wild shit that was literally what I'm saying now, Yeah, dude, 1917 01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:21.079 we've had them. 1918 01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:21.840 What's your point. 1919 01:32:22.680 --> 01:32:24.640 I feel like you're missing my point here. 1920 01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:27.199 I feel like you're missing mine. I don't know. 1921 01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:28.359 Go ahead, I have. 1922 01:32:28.279 --> 01:32:31.000 A take on this here. I really really think Jacob 1923 01:32:31.920 --> 01:32:35.239 knows that the Earth is flat, I think, and I 1924 01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:38.000 don't think he wants to admit it because he doesn't 1925 01:32:38.039 --> 01:32:40.560 want a David Weite's tramp stamp. And I don't, you know, 1926 01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:41.239 that's just me. 1927 01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:45.119 Maybe I'll tell you what. 1928 01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:48.439 That is, absolutely the bet that is still on the table, bro, 1929 01:32:48.520 --> 01:32:50.479 I have not forgotten the terms of that bet. 1930 01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:54.239 I know, I know. I don't blame you or for 1931 01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:56.760 not wanting to admit it. I think maybe there could 1932 01:32:56.800 --> 01:32:59.119 be some other reasons too, But I think I think 1933 01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:02.920 Jacob knows. I you know, that's just my humble opinion, 1934 01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:04.079 and I mean no disrespect. 1935 01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:05.000 Look, I get it. 1936 01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:07.640 I mean, look, I'm you know, if you believe in 1937 01:33:07.720 --> 01:33:11.399 constellations and stuff like well, not believe in constellations, but 1938 01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:12.960 you know, the zodiacs and stuff like that. 1939 01:33:13.079 --> 01:33:16.760 But like, you know, I'm a Taurus. I get the stubbornness. 1940 01:33:16.880 --> 01:33:22.279 I do. But at some point we've had literal probably 1941 01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:25.119 one hundred hours of conversation through the course of the 1942 01:33:25.760 --> 01:33:28.960 four and a half years that we've done this show. Yeah, like, 1943 01:33:29.800 --> 01:33:33.000 that's crazy to me that you have not budged since 1944 01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:33.640 day one. 1945 01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:38.159 No, because I've been presented no information that makes me 1946 01:33:39.039 --> 01:33:41.880 seriously question my plane of existence. 1947 01:33:42.760 --> 01:33:46.800 Have you ever tried seeing long distance? Have you gone 1948 01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:50.840 to the dunes of the or the Michigan Sand Dunes 1949 01:33:50.880 --> 01:33:52.960 and see in Chicago from sixty miles away? Because that 1950 01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:55.319 was I'll be told like that when I saw that, 1951 01:33:55.399 --> 01:33:57.479 And because when I saw it, you know, you can 1952 01:33:57.479 --> 01:33:59.359 go online and you can see that, you can see it, 1953 01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:01.359 and then you can go and see the news clip 1954 01:34:01.439 --> 01:34:04.520 of the newscaster saying this is a mirage, and then 1955 01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:06.760 you know, like I literally went back and forth with 1956 01:34:06.800 --> 01:34:08.840 a friend of mine who we both have lived by 1957 01:34:08.920 --> 01:34:11.560 Chicago our whole lives, and he's like, he showed me 1958 01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:15.039 a picture where you could see Chicago and he was like, dude, 1959 01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:18.239 that is fake. You can tell it's like manipulated. I'm like, 1960 01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:20.279 and then he showed me one and I was like, no, 1961 01:34:20.439 --> 01:34:22.680 that's fake, and I'm like, screw this, I'm going there. 1962 01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:24.720 And when you see it with your own eyes, and 1963 01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:28.039 then you you don't look at flat earth map or math, 1964 01:34:28.119 --> 01:34:30.319 but you look at the math that is in the 1965 01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:32.920 books and is in you know, NASA has given us 1966 01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:36.279 that the newscasters saying you're seeing a mirage, and you 1967 01:34:36.399 --> 01:34:41.640 know that people like, why is his name gonna evade me. 1968 01:34:41.720 --> 01:34:45.000 Right now, Flat Earther has literally done a NonStop video 1969 01:34:45.199 --> 01:34:48.800 video sixty miles across with out taking it off Chicago 1970 01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:50.880 to know it's not a mirage. If you were to 1971 01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:53.119 go there and you were see that with your own eyes, 1972 01:34:53.119 --> 01:34:55.720 would it change your mind? Or are you so stuck 1973 01:34:56.279 --> 01:34:59.640 in a ball that nothing would change it. 1974 01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:02.760 I've never been to Shyrak, not gonna lie. I would 1975 01:35:02.800 --> 01:35:04.920 like to check it out one day. I've heard the 1976 01:35:04.920 --> 01:35:09.159 bean is worth seeing. Also, I need to experience Geno's East. 1977 01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:11.880 I've heard that the Deep Dish pizza is worth the trip. 1978 01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:14.439 I don't know, but one day, when I make that trip, 1979 01:35:14.479 --> 01:35:16.319 I would like to see this with my own eyes. 1980 01:35:16.439 --> 01:35:17.760 Yes, now, I'm. 1981 01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:21.239 Also not so stubborn that I would be unchanged when 1982 01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:24.319 presented that information. Hell, I have even suggested that we 1983 01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:27.600 Jonathan and I had the Cult of Conspiracy send up 1984 01:35:27.640 --> 01:35:30.760 a weather balloon with multiple different cameras. He We'll have 1985 01:35:30.840 --> 01:35:33.159 cult members send us cameras to where we There's no 1986 01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:36.880 question about chicanery and buffoonery on it ain't. 1987 01:35:36.720 --> 01:35:39.239 No fish islands is on shit. We will will vlog 1988 01:35:39.319 --> 01:35:41.319 the whole thing, right, I would. 1989 01:35:41.039 --> 01:35:43.399 Love to send that up and see what we find 1990 01:35:44.079 --> 01:35:45.199 just out of curiosity. 1991 01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:46.880 I would love for me and Jonathan to take it. 1992 01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:50.039 There's trips that you could take to uh, forget whatever. 1993 01:35:50.399 --> 01:35:53.279 I honest fear stratusphe or whatever to quote unquote experience 1994 01:35:53.399 --> 01:35:54.199 zero gravity. 1995 01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:57.640 And yes, I know the balloons were a nice touch. 1996 01:35:57.680 --> 01:35:58.399 That was dope. 1997 01:35:59.039 --> 01:36:01.760 I don't know if that's real life or not. I 1998 01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:04.880 would like to experience that for sure. But you know, 1999 01:36:04.960 --> 01:36:08.279 with that being said, yes, I've done long distance shooting. 2000 01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:11.960 I've done I've looked at long distances through scopes and 2001 01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:14.079 things like that, And yes, I believe that there is 2002 01:36:14.119 --> 01:36:18.199 a curvature of our Earth. Now, I will acknowledge that 2003 01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:21.039 NASA has lied to us about a metric fuck ton 2004 01:36:21.199 --> 01:36:23.520 of things, which is larger than a regular fuck ton, 2005 01:36:23.840 --> 01:36:25.760 no doubt. And I will also give props to the 2006 01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:29.239 flat earther community for bringing these things to light, not 2007 01:36:29.319 --> 01:36:31.880 saying that their math is one hundred percent accurate, not 2008 01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:33.640 saying that the size and. 2009 01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:36.960 Shape of our Earth is accurately what they tell us 2010 01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:37.239 it is. 2011 01:36:38.399 --> 01:36:40.720 But yeah, and I'll even say that I believe that 2012 01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:44.159 we are more or less on a ball of flat plates, 2013 01:36:45.239 --> 01:36:47.439 you know what I mean, Like, think of a forty. 2014 01:36:47.079 --> 01:36:48.920 Sided sixty sided. 2015 01:36:50.840 --> 01:36:52.920 Ball like a soccer ball, so to speak, with all 2016 01:36:52.960 --> 01:36:56.159 the panels and each of them individually are flat as fuck. 2017 01:36:56.279 --> 01:36:58.840 So shooting a laser across something like this, I'll even 2018 01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:00.880 give that acknowledgement hundred percent. 2019 01:37:01.119 --> 01:37:04.520 Like a golf ball, like the time, like a little hole. 2020 01:37:04.439 --> 01:37:05.239 Sort of right. 2021 01:37:05.239 --> 01:37:06.800 But I feel like and even that I feel like 2022 01:37:06.840 --> 01:37:09.319 as an oversimplification my soccer ball, I feel like it 2023 01:37:09.359 --> 01:37:12.960 is an oversimplification, but to a more or less degree. 2024 01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:14.960 In there's peaks, and there's valleys, and there's ridges and 2025 01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:17.640 all of these things. Yes, but that is what I 2026 01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:22.000 do currently believe is the operating Now. Gravity is something 2027 01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:24.880 that I think is interesting. We can track it, we 2028 01:37:24.920 --> 01:37:26.760 can scale it, we can't reproduce it. 2029 01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:30.720 No, I understand that. I also don't believe this space 2030 01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:31.439 is a vacuum. 2031 01:37:31.680 --> 01:37:35.520 I believe it's more of a fluid, if anything, something 2032 01:37:35.520 --> 01:37:38.560 that really doesn't fit nicely into our solid liquid or 2033 01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:42.600 gas status of shit, But definitely not a vacuum. 2034 01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:44.760 So what if you think it's liquid? What are you? 2035 01:37:44.880 --> 01:37:49.920 Are you moon landing Denier and sending rovers to Mars Denier? 2036 01:37:50.239 --> 01:37:50.920 What are yours? 2037 01:37:51.079 --> 01:37:51.159 That? 2038 01:37:51.760 --> 01:37:54.520 I believe that the first moon landing was an absolute hoax, 2039 01:37:54.520 --> 01:37:56.479 and I wouldn't even be shocked if the first few 2040 01:37:56.640 --> 01:38:00.239 were absolute bullshit. I believe that we probably have been 2041 01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:03.119 to the Moon. I don't believe that was something that 2042 01:38:03.239 --> 01:38:06.279 was televised or recorded, or if it was, it's something 2043 01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:07.199 that we've never seen. 2044 01:38:08.199 --> 01:38:10.159 I believe that they have gone to the dark side 2045 01:38:10.159 --> 01:38:10.560 of the Moon. 2046 01:38:10.840 --> 01:38:13.399 I believe that was the actual purpose of them ever 2047 01:38:13.439 --> 01:38:15.560 going there in the first place. The reason why I 2048 01:38:15.640 --> 01:38:18.239 believe that we have been to the Moon and I 2049 01:38:18.279 --> 01:38:22.119 can't speak to the rover on Mars, well, I actually 2050 01:38:22.119 --> 01:38:23.600 tend to believe that one. But I'll get to that 2051 01:38:23.640 --> 01:38:26.159 in a minute. That's because the dick that was drawn 2052 01:38:26.199 --> 01:38:28.279 on the surface, but we'll get there. So anyway, So 2053 01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:32.479 the Moon situation there is currently you can buy a 2054 01:38:32.560 --> 01:38:34.359 laser beam and you've been able to do this for 2055 01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:37.800 a few years now, and you can lock it on 2056 01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:40.520 to a reflective plate that was left on the Moon 2057 01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:44.680 a couple of missions ago. Now, if you miss it, 2058 01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:47.279 you're not gonna have the results. So it's not something 2059 01:38:47.279 --> 01:38:48.760 you could see with your own eyes. But you can 2060 01:38:48.760 --> 01:38:50.680 shoot a beam and you can track the amount of 2061 01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:52.880 time it takes to hit the reflective plate and come 2062 01:38:52.920 --> 01:38:55.239 back to your sensor. You have to get it right 2063 01:38:55.279 --> 01:38:56.800 on a certain time, you have to do it on 2064 01:38:56.840 --> 01:38:58.920 a certain night. Everything has to be perfect for you 2065 01:38:58.960 --> 01:39:00.359 to be able to do this. But even in the 2066 01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:02.359 civilian market you can buy this and do it at 2067 01:39:02.359 --> 01:39:02.800 your house. 2068 01:39:03.520 --> 01:39:05.560 That plate had to have been left on the Moon. 2069 01:39:06.239 --> 01:39:08.039 You can't just fire it up and it's so reflective 2070 01:39:08.079 --> 01:39:09.760 it's gonna work anytime you do it anywhere. 2071 01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:12.000 It has to has to hit this plate. 2072 01:39:12.119 --> 01:39:15.560 So somebody had to have gone up there and left it. 2073 01:39:15.760 --> 01:39:18.479 So I do believe that humans have been to the Moon. 2074 01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:22.039 Why were they sent, who actually was sent, what was 2075 01:39:22.039 --> 01:39:22.640 their mission? 2076 01:39:22.720 --> 01:39:25.760 Who fucking knows. So that's my take on it. 2077 01:39:26.199 --> 01:39:29.039 The particles of the moon, the moon rocks that they 2078 01:39:29.079 --> 01:39:31.319 came back with, and all of that all have been 2079 01:39:31.319 --> 01:39:34.880 confirmed to be petrified. Would no actual sample of anything 2080 01:39:34.920 --> 01:39:37.159 from the Moon has ever been recovered or brought back 2081 01:39:37.279 --> 01:39:40.640 that we know of, So I think that there was 2082 01:39:40.680 --> 01:39:42.720 a more of a we're going there to do a thing, 2083 01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:45.920 not we're going there to bring something back. Although I'm 2084 01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:49.119 not sure about the helium three particle. That one's interesting 2085 01:39:49.119 --> 01:39:50.560 because allegedly that came from the Moon. 2086 01:39:50.920 --> 01:39:52.359 The Mars rover thing. 2087 01:39:52.479 --> 01:39:54.560 I think we may have gone there with the rover 2088 01:39:54.840 --> 01:39:56.840 simply because they had to do what they could to 2089 01:39:56.880 --> 01:39:59.760 scribble out the dick that was drawn on the surface 2090 01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:02.840 of by some asshole who was at the wheel one 2091 01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:05.840 night and just drew a dick like with the tire tracks. 2092 01:40:06.199 --> 01:40:08.399 And if that wasn't real, NASA wouldn't have gone as 2093 01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:10.199 far as to try to cover that up and dispel 2094 01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:11.239 that it was faking like. 2095 01:40:11.279 --> 01:40:13.359 It was like, no, dude, that's real as fuck. So 2096 01:40:13.880 --> 01:40:14.439 that's just me. 2097 01:40:14.920 --> 01:40:17.199 You could have you could have just drawn a dick 2098 01:40:17.239 --> 01:40:21.399 somewhere in Greenland and it, you know, accidentally like showed 2099 01:40:21.439 --> 01:40:22.600 itself on the footage. 2100 01:40:22.720 --> 01:40:23.680 Okay, Okay, I'll do that. 2101 01:40:23.760 --> 01:40:27.039 I'll say that whatever the whatever the Mars rover, whether 2102 01:40:27.079 --> 01:40:29.720 that's in Greenland or on Mars, that thing left a 2103 01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:30.840 dick print somewhere. 2104 01:40:31.119 --> 01:40:33.119 I'll say that much. I don't know if that's on 2105 01:40:33.199 --> 01:40:33.760 Mars or not. 2106 01:40:33.920 --> 01:40:36.399 Fair point, what are your thoughts with the super fluid? Then? 2107 01:40:36.399 --> 01:40:39.319 How are they getting through a super fluid to get 2108 01:40:39.399 --> 01:40:43.279 to the moon and how is that just I'm just 2109 01:40:43.319 --> 01:40:45.560 curious in your mind. 2110 01:40:46.039 --> 01:40:48.840 So when I say a fluid, I want you to 2111 01:40:48.920 --> 01:40:51.159 take away when you think of a liquid, okay, and 2112 01:40:51.239 --> 01:40:53.000 think take away when you think of a gas. So 2113 01:40:53.239 --> 01:40:56.279 I worked in industry, and when we use the term 2114 01:40:56.319 --> 01:40:58.920 for fluid mechanics, it was literally something that can be 2115 01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:01.760 pumped from point A to point B through a pipe. 2116 01:41:01.840 --> 01:41:05.560 That could be chlorine gas, that could be water, that 2117 01:41:05.560 --> 01:41:09.359 could be a sugar gel, syrup, like anything that could 2118 01:41:09.359 --> 01:41:11.479 be flow through a point. 2119 01:41:11.560 --> 01:41:11.720 Right. 2120 01:41:12.479 --> 01:41:15.880 So I believe that space, or at least what's outside 2121 01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:20.279 of our atmosphere is more of a fluid type of thing, 2122 01:41:20.439 --> 01:41:23.199 not necessarily a gel, not necessarily a gas, and not 2123 01:41:23.239 --> 01:41:26.359 necessarily a liquid. I think it's something that doesn't fit 2124 01:41:26.600 --> 01:41:29.720 neatly into our periodic table, and it doesn't fit neatly 2125 01:41:29.800 --> 01:41:35.319 into our phases of existence. It's somewhere in between when 2126 01:41:35.359 --> 01:41:38.520 something's going sublime, if that makes sense. 2127 01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:39.319 Gotcha. 2128 01:41:39.399 --> 01:41:42.119 I believe our atmosphere more is more or less like 2129 01:41:42.119 --> 01:41:46.399 an air bubble in a quote unquote see of this 2130 01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:48.600 plasmic fluid, so to speak. 2131 01:41:48.920 --> 01:41:51.680 Gotcha. I did you know a lot of people, a 2132 01:41:51.720 --> 01:41:55.079 lot of flat earthers talk about satalloons and how satellites 2133 01:41:55.079 --> 01:41:59.680 are on giant helium filled balloons, and I think those exist. 2134 01:41:59.720 --> 01:42:04.000 But I also did a video on how liquid oxygen 2135 01:42:05.319 --> 01:42:09.079 potentially up high in the air would freeze, and it's 2136 01:42:09.560 --> 01:42:13.479 how it's becomes magnetic and how you know, I don't 2137 01:42:13.479 --> 01:42:16.000 think there's only satellites on balloons, but I think they 2138 01:42:16.079 --> 01:42:19.960 literally launched satellites into the firmament and use some sort 2139 01:42:20.039 --> 01:42:24.680 of you know, magnetic material that somehow connects to that 2140 01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:27.960 liquid oxygen and then can do some sort of toroidal 2141 01:42:28.520 --> 01:42:30.760 you know field with a little propulsion that they just 2142 01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:33.359 happen to have that NASA has patterns with. So I 2143 01:42:33.359 --> 01:42:36.239 do think, you know, just me not agreeing with you 2144 01:42:36.319 --> 01:42:39.119 and your no no beliefs, I think no, but that 2145 01:42:39.159 --> 01:42:42.760 could work some satellites up there that aren't just balloons 2146 01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:43.840 in my opinion. 2147 01:42:43.840 --> 01:42:46.720 No, and they could power themselves off of the electrons 2148 01:42:46.760 --> 01:42:48.439 that high up in the iono sphere. 2149 01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:51.039 Like I mean it, really if they just even. 2150 01:42:50.880 --> 01:42:53.880 Had a couple of wires out there to collect the 2151 01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:58.239 free ions, that could honestly power the propulsion system and 2152 01:42:58.520 --> 01:43:01.880 the electromagnet system. Talking about so like to your point, 2153 01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:05.680 I mean, look, I'm open to a lot of ideas here. 2154 01:43:05.680 --> 01:43:09.560 I do believe that sadalloons are a thing one hundred percent. 2155 01:43:09.880 --> 01:43:12.600 I also believe that rockets are a thing one hundred percent. 2156 01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:15.680 I'm a Christian who believes that demons and angels are real, 2157 01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:19.119 but also aliens and extraterrestrial lives on other planets. 2158 01:43:19.159 --> 01:43:21.000 I believe all of that is real. I'm all over 2159 01:43:21.039 --> 01:43:22.159 the place with a lot of things. 2160 01:43:22.159 --> 01:43:25.560 You know, do you have you seen any of my 2161 01:43:25.960 --> 01:43:28.880 holographic rocket videos I've done. I do a lot of 2162 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:30.640 or I used to do a lot of those. I 2163 01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:33.359 don't as much anymore. Kind of tying into I think 2164 01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:36.640 they are testing a lot of those SpaceX rockets on 2165 01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:39.479 us to see how how much we'll believe when they 2166 01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:41.760 maybe throw Project Blue Being at us. 2167 01:43:42.039 --> 01:43:44.319 I was gonna ask you what your thoughts were about 2168 01:43:44.399 --> 01:43:45.319 Project Blue Being. 2169 01:43:46.359 --> 01:43:49.880 Yeah, I think, especially now. 2170 01:43:49.720 --> 01:43:52.279 That I know that you are of the faith right 2171 01:43:52.359 --> 01:43:55.079 to a degree, to your degree, right, Yeah, I have. 2172 01:43:55.119 --> 01:43:58.199 Different I have different thoughts I think than the majority 2173 01:43:58.199 --> 01:44:01.239 of people. I think, you know, I think Blue Beam 2174 01:44:01.279 --> 01:44:03.039 is kind of like Clones. To me, It's become so 2175 01:44:03.199 --> 01:44:06.119 mainstream that in my mind, it's like they wanted that 2176 01:44:06.239 --> 01:44:08.840 out there, and I think, you know, I think they 2177 01:44:08.840 --> 01:44:12.199 have Blue Beam out there. So individuals like us with 2178 01:44:12.239 --> 01:44:15.640 open minds who have looked into things, look at some 2179 01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:19.439 sort of craft or you know, a floating city of 2180 01:44:19.520 --> 01:44:23.720 Jerusalem or whatever it is, and we say, hey, that's 2181 01:44:23.760 --> 01:44:27.159 Blue Beam, that's holographic the NORMALI say, hey, that's aliens 2182 01:44:27.239 --> 01:44:31.039 from outer space, when in fact, maybe it's you know, 2183 01:44:31.119 --> 01:44:35.279 something spiritual coming through the firmament, fallen angels Jesus on 2184 01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:37.760 You know the question. 2185 01:44:37.960 --> 01:44:40.560 Do you believe that when we see these right? Just you? Now, 2186 01:44:40.680 --> 01:44:40.920 just you? 2187 01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:44.199 Do you believe that when that time comes, we'll see 2188 01:44:44.239 --> 01:44:47.119 the angels in Jesus on clouds of glory? Do you 2189 01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:50.319 believe that it will be a complete project? Bluebeam si out? 2190 01:44:50.359 --> 01:44:53.239 Do you believe both are equally true and valid and possible? 2191 01:44:53.279 --> 01:44:53.760 Where yet? 2192 01:44:53.800 --> 01:44:56.880 Yeah, I'm a big believer, and you guys probably know 2193 01:44:56.880 --> 01:44:58.600 of it, just being who you are, But I don't know. 2194 01:44:58.880 --> 01:45:01.439 I didn't see do you guys know? J T follows 2195 01:45:01.479 --> 01:45:05.720 JC you ever have asked. I'm a big believer in 2196 01:45:06.199 --> 01:45:10.359 living in the little little season and thinking that the 2197 01:45:10.439 --> 01:45:13.840 millennial reign was probably Tartaria and all that, So I, 2198 01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:16.039 you know, I believe that, and I do think when 2199 01:45:16.039 --> 01:45:17.800 we see things in the sky, it's probably going to 2200 01:45:17.840 --> 01:45:23.720 be a combination of things of real maybe spiritual warfare, 2201 01:45:24.119 --> 01:45:28.600 or you know, good angels versus bad angels, and potentially 2202 01:45:28.720 --> 01:45:32.840 the holographic stuff up there to just throw more confusion 2203 01:45:32.880 --> 01:45:36.159 into the mix. So and I do this is like 2204 01:45:36.199 --> 01:45:38.119 one of the craziest things that I've put out there. 2205 01:45:38.159 --> 01:45:41.000 And I know that I'm not, you know, naive to 2206 01:45:41.039 --> 01:45:42.960 the fact, but I do think there will be a 2207 01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:46.520 fake Jesus. And I honestly think it's going to be 2208 01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:48.640 played by Jim Carrey. I really do. 2209 01:45:50.760 --> 01:45:53.520 Insane Christ is going to be Jim Carrey did. 2210 01:45:54.199 --> 01:45:56.920 Yeah, I think, you know, he already played Biden, and 2211 01:45:56.960 --> 01:45:59.760 I think there is so much symbolism of him. Every 2212 01:45:59.760 --> 01:46:02.640 single movie he's ever done, he's got the Jesus pose, 2213 01:46:03.159 --> 01:46:06.920 either as his front cover or somewhere in the movie. 2214 01:46:07.520 --> 01:46:10.560 And I just think it's predictive programming. There's a we 2215 01:46:10.640 --> 01:46:13.920 mentioned it earlier. The there's a documentary when he played 2216 01:46:13.960 --> 01:46:16.800 Andy Kaufman and he's kind of talking about it at 2217 01:46:16.840 --> 01:46:19.600 the end. He's talking about how I wonder if I 2218 01:46:19.600 --> 01:46:21.880 could just do that, could I just you know, I 2219 01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:24.720 was he played Andy Kaufman and became Andy Kaufman. He's like, 2220 01:46:24.760 --> 01:46:26.800 I wonder if I could just become anyone. I wonder 2221 01:46:26.840 --> 01:46:29.720 if I could just become Jesus and it was like 2222 01:46:29.880 --> 01:46:32.960 he smirked at the camera and I was like, there's 2223 01:46:33.039 --> 01:46:35.920 more to that. And then I went and found all 2224 01:46:36.279 --> 01:46:39.880 like literally thirty different poses of him. In the Jesus pose, 2225 01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:40.359 I'm like. 2226 01:46:40.560 --> 01:46:44.520 And then he plays Bruce Almighty exactly exactly. 2227 01:46:44.640 --> 01:46:48.000 And so something's coming with that. And in my humble opinion, 2228 01:46:48.039 --> 01:46:50.359 and you know, that might be the craziest thing I've 2229 01:46:50.359 --> 01:46:53.359 ever said in my social media platforms, but I think 2230 01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:54.399 something's coming with it. 2231 01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:57.079 I mean, dude, you got to question it though, Like 2232 01:46:57.239 --> 01:47:01.960 that is to think that all the fucking actors that 2233 01:47:02.039 --> 01:47:04.600 there are playing just like regular roles in real life. 2234 01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:07.239 It's like Ready Player one video game that we're living in, 2235 01:47:07.800 --> 01:47:10.720 and you know, like you think about the movie Ready 2236 01:47:10.720 --> 01:47:14.279 Player one, Yeah, you had to have, you know, the 2237 01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:16.760 the gaming system, and then you could also get like 2238 01:47:17.199 --> 01:47:19.920 the actual gaming where and you're walking around in the 2239 01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:21.800 video game and stuff like that, and you can change 2240 01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:22.279 your skin. 2241 01:47:22.680 --> 01:47:25.600 You know a lot of people playing Fortnite. That's kind 2242 01:47:25.600 --> 01:47:26.439 of becoming a thing. 2243 01:47:26.920 --> 01:47:29.680 And it's like, I don't know, dude, this I just 2244 01:47:29.760 --> 01:47:32.399 questioned this reality so much. And as a matter of fact, 2245 01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:35.319 I wanted to ask you this. So about a month ago, 2246 01:47:35.359 --> 01:47:38.479 I did DMT for the first time, and and it 2247 01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:42.119 was a fucking wild experience, like whenever they say you 2248 01:47:42.199 --> 01:47:46.119 literally go through an ego death, like you absolutely experience that. 2249 01:47:46.239 --> 01:47:49.319 And it was funny enough. I actually just saw an 2250 01:47:49.359 --> 01:47:53.319 older video of Mike Tyson talking about his DMT experience, which, dude, 2251 01:47:53.399 --> 01:47:56.520 I shit, you not like identical experience. 2252 01:47:56.560 --> 01:47:57.840 He goes, oh God, what did I do? 2253 01:47:57.880 --> 01:47:58.359 What did I do? 2254 01:47:58.399 --> 01:48:00.439 Why did I do this? Like I'm I'm I'm about 2255 01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:02.319 to die and then he goes, I'm dead. He goes, 2256 01:48:02.439 --> 01:48:07.079 I died then, And this person now is like a 2257 01:48:07.079 --> 01:48:10.039 more calmer, more softer, more caring kind of person. 2258 01:48:10.319 --> 01:48:12.560 You saw how fucking soft you wasn't that Jake Paul fight? 2259 01:48:12.920 --> 01:48:16.319 And it's like, you know, like I think that, you know, 2260 01:48:16.479 --> 01:48:19.079 like whenever you go through something like that, it really 2261 01:48:19.199 --> 01:48:21.479 changes your perspective on just about everything, and it just 2262 01:48:21.520 --> 01:48:25.640 goes to show that you know, our our egoic self 2263 01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:29.399 or whatever. It really is just like a video game character. 2264 01:48:29.479 --> 01:48:31.800 And so why wouldn't everybody else kind of go through that, 2265 01:48:31.920 --> 01:48:34.239 especially if you're an actor method acting and doing it 2266 01:48:34.239 --> 01:48:34.800 in real life. 2267 01:48:35.199 --> 01:48:37.239 I'm dying over here by the way sorry about that. 2268 01:48:37.359 --> 01:48:41.079 Like I'm like going through like this sickness. I'm just 2269 01:48:41.119 --> 01:48:43.680 gonna now getting over at my throat is fucked, which 2270 01:48:43.720 --> 01:48:48.079 is great for my job. So yeah, but no, I 2271 01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:52.159 just I have you ever had a psychedelic experience before 2272 01:48:52.239 --> 01:48:54.119 mushrooms or DMT or anything like that. 2273 01:48:54.960 --> 01:48:57.439 No, you know, I've never experimented with it. I've always 2274 01:48:57.439 --> 01:49:00.359 been like kind of in the athlete mindset and like 2275 01:49:00.479 --> 01:49:01.520 less is more and. 2276 01:49:02.399 --> 01:49:05.760 All the athletes be microdos in these days. And You're right, 2277 01:49:06.039 --> 01:49:08.399 I don't know why you ain't for sure. 2278 01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:12.039 My brother is like always on me to do it. 2279 01:49:12.119 --> 01:49:14.279 And I don't know when I when I had my 2280 01:49:14.319 --> 01:49:17.079 spiritual awakening and just kind of like became aware of 2281 01:49:17.119 --> 01:49:19.640 where we were. I was. I was having a lot 2282 01:49:19.640 --> 01:49:22.520 of spiritual attacks, a lot of sleep paralysis, a lot 2283 01:49:22.520 --> 01:49:26.119 of like literally like little demons on my like choking 2284 01:49:26.239 --> 01:49:30.600 me out, and some feminine presence like some like scary shit. 2285 01:49:30.640 --> 01:49:33.159 And that was kind of before I took on just 2286 01:49:33.159 --> 01:49:35.319 like the full armor of God, got my Bible, got 2287 01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:39.960 my cross, and you know, at that same time, I'm 2288 01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:42.039 like kind of leading into it. I was trying to 2289 01:49:42.039 --> 01:49:45.119 do some lucid dreaming and astral projection, and I was 2290 01:49:45.159 --> 01:49:48.520 like accomplishing it. And once I kind of had those 2291 01:49:48.600 --> 01:49:52.680 experiences and I wouldn't say it scared me away, but 2292 01:49:52.760 --> 01:49:54.960 I was like, all right, maybe I want to like 2293 01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:57.319 hold off, figure out where I am a little more, 2294 01:49:57.359 --> 01:49:59.479 and just haven't dabbled back into it. Part of me 2295 01:49:59.520 --> 01:50:02.319 thinks that's stuff happens because they're like trying to scare 2296 01:50:02.359 --> 01:50:05.359 you away from getting deeper into it. The other part 2297 01:50:05.399 --> 01:50:08.920 of me thinks that it's like, you know, like it's 2298 01:50:08.960 --> 01:50:11.479 funny that happens to so many people who are waking up, 2299 01:50:11.520 --> 01:50:14.359 because I think they leave you alone because they don't 2300 01:50:14.399 --> 01:50:16.920 want you to know that you are in a spiritual realm. 2301 01:50:18.079 --> 01:50:20.920 But I just haven't gotten back into it. And you know, 2302 01:50:20.960 --> 01:50:24.439 I think my third eye is open plenty where I 2303 01:50:24.479 --> 01:50:27.359 don't at the moment feel like I gotta dabble with 2304 01:50:27.399 --> 01:50:29.680 that stuff, you know, like I see things that a 2305 01:50:29.760 --> 01:50:33.279 lot of other humans don't see, you know, like finding 2306 01:50:33.439 --> 01:50:36.840 things on the stars, like literal dog images and the stars, 2307 01:50:36.920 --> 01:50:39.319 and I see dragons in the clouds all the time. 2308 01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:42.800 I literally prayed one day to have God show me 2309 01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:47.319 my dog was okay and like a perfect image. David 2310 01:50:47.319 --> 01:50:49.520 Weiss even was like, dude, that's not paradolia, Like that 2311 01:50:49.640 --> 01:50:53.079 is your dog in the clouds. And I don't know. 2312 01:50:53.079 --> 01:50:56.119 I just I'm experiencing enough on the spiritual side where 2313 01:50:56.119 --> 01:50:58.600 I don't feel the need to dabble into that stuff 2314 01:50:58.800 --> 01:51:02.479 at the moment. So long answer to a short question. 2315 01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:03.359 No, I get that. 2316 01:51:03.520 --> 01:51:05.920 Yeah, I mean I I just kind of I've heard 2317 01:51:05.960 --> 01:51:07.920 a lot of people talking about it. You hear Joe 2318 01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:12.479 Rogan's experience, in Ri Shaffer's experience, and then Mike Tyson's experience. 2319 01:51:12.520 --> 01:51:15.119 I just always thought, like, all right, if I'm really 2320 01:51:15.159 --> 01:51:17.640 on some kind of like journey for truth, I need 2321 01:51:17.680 --> 01:51:19.520 to see what the fuck this is about, because it 2322 01:51:19.560 --> 01:51:22.159 could play a large role in how I view you know, 2323 01:51:23.079 --> 01:51:26.560 like just reality and all that kind of stuff. And dude, 2324 01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:29.520 I've completely fucking shattered everything that I thought. I almost 2325 01:51:29.520 --> 01:51:33.439 have to, like on purpose try and build back the 2326 01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:37.439 character that I was, which is so fucking weird, dude, 2327 01:51:37.479 --> 01:51:40.960 Like it's it's weird trying to take on personality traits 2328 01:51:40.960 --> 01:51:44.720 that you once had, Like because whenever they say ego death, bro, 2329 01:51:44.720 --> 01:51:46.720 I'm talking about like the good and the bad, they 2330 01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:49.079 just like both go away. And so I'm trying to 2331 01:51:49.159 --> 01:51:51.800 like reel them fuckers back in, like who am I 2332 01:51:52.079 --> 01:51:55.479 come on, bro? 2333 01:51:56.840 --> 01:51:58.840 Sorry, that's the thing you get to You get to 2334 01:51:58.880 --> 01:52:01.600 reinvent yourself in every day, every day you wake up, 2335 01:52:01.640 --> 01:52:03.520 you get to decide the person you want to be in. 2336 01:52:03.640 --> 01:52:05.319 That's the that's the beautiful part of it. 2337 01:52:05.960 --> 01:52:10.680 That exact those exact words. I don't know if you 2338 01:52:10.720 --> 01:52:13.159 guys have seen, I've been on the Robin Williams trailiately 2339 01:52:13.279 --> 01:52:15.079 been doing a bunch of Robin Williams is a live 2340 01:52:15.199 --> 01:52:18.840 videos and he quotes the guy that I This guy's 2341 01:52:18.880 --> 01:52:21.520 name is Uncle Pappy. He's on the social media platforms 2342 01:52:21.560 --> 01:52:24.880 with a million followers, you know, like he's another one. 2343 01:52:24.920 --> 01:52:27.640 I'm sure he's Robin Williams, but he's quoting Alan Watts 2344 01:52:27.680 --> 01:52:29.720 a bunch and you know, says things like that you 2345 01:52:29.720 --> 01:52:31.600 can reinvent yourself any day. You don't need to be 2346 01:52:31.640 --> 01:52:33.720 who you were yesterday. And I'd like to used that 2347 01:52:33.840 --> 01:52:37.000 be Like, look, he's telling us, Robin Williams is telling 2348 01:52:37.079 --> 01:52:40.960 us he's this uncle Pappy dude. And just made me 2349 01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:42.399 think of it when you were saying that. 2350 01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:46.239 No doubt, Oh yeah, Like it's it is a weird thing, dude. 2351 01:52:46.319 --> 01:52:49.119 It's so weird and honestly, dude, I've changed my life 2352 01:52:49.199 --> 01:52:51.920 big time in the last month. Like the trajectory of 2353 01:52:51.960 --> 01:52:55.720 my life is crazly different as opposed to what it 2354 01:52:55.840 --> 01:52:58.560 was just a month ago, like literally a month ago 2355 01:52:58.640 --> 01:53:01.239 before I did the DMT. I is not planning on 2356 01:53:01.319 --> 01:53:04.439 moving back to Louisiana. I'm moving back to Louisiana soon 2357 01:53:04.520 --> 01:53:06.720 because that's where everybody's at, that's where my family is, 2358 01:53:06.760 --> 01:53:08.920 that's where like, that's where my heart is. I want 2359 01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:12.039 to go back there, and so so, yeah, you might 2360 01:53:12.039 --> 01:53:13.960 be seeing a lot more of me and Jacob in 2361 01:53:14.039 --> 01:53:15.840 studio together more often. 2362 01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:17.920 At least better to say, do we have an eta 2363 01:53:18.079 --> 01:53:18.319 on that? 2364 01:53:18.439 --> 01:53:18.600 Bro? 2365 01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:22.159 Well, my lease is up here because I got an 2366 01:53:22.159 --> 01:53:26.279 apartment out here in Katie, Texas, and my lease is 2367 01:53:26.359 --> 01:53:29.399 up like middle of February, So I'm looking. 2368 01:53:29.159 --> 01:53:34.319 To buy a house. Uh probably march Ish. 2369 01:53:34.920 --> 01:53:37.199 Okay, grown up, Tyler, Where are you from? 2370 01:53:37.199 --> 01:53:37.399 Bro? 2371 01:53:38.920 --> 01:53:43.000 I was? I was lived in Lake Forest, Illinois, which 2372 01:53:43.039 --> 01:53:46.199 is like forty five minutes north of Chicago. Born and 2373 01:53:46.279 --> 01:53:48.720 raised there. I grew up there, taught a little bit 2374 01:53:48.800 --> 01:53:52.520 north of there in Gray's Lake, and now I reside 2375 01:53:52.680 --> 01:53:54.920 in near Sarasota, Florida. 2376 01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:57.159 Yeah, you moved to Florida. 2377 01:53:57.199 --> 01:54:00.239 Why I mean, actually, first of all, first of all, 2378 01:54:00.319 --> 01:54:04.000 as opposed to the cold, frigid tundra of Illinois, Yo, 2379 01:54:04.159 --> 01:54:05.199 Florida is pimping. 2380 01:54:05.920 --> 01:54:08.920 Yeah, well, yeah, it's paradise down here, dude. I think 2381 01:54:08.960 --> 01:54:13.640 there's some serious intentional bad mouthing of Florida, so people 2382 01:54:13.760 --> 01:54:17.439 don't move down here. It is. Yeah, I will not 2383 01:54:17.600 --> 01:54:22.199 miss you know, zero degree thirty degree negative windshield in 2384 01:54:22.319 --> 01:54:24.800 Chicago for sure. So I'm you know, I've got a 2385 01:54:25.560 --> 01:54:28.079 house that I'm renting that's got a beautiful pool and 2386 01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:31.000 living living a good life down here, and I have 2387 01:54:31.039 --> 01:54:33.279 no intention of being back in the Midwest. 2388 01:54:33.840 --> 01:54:34.600 Dude. I was. 2389 01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:38.000 I had this friend of mine, she was a traveling nurse, right, 2390 01:54:38.159 --> 01:54:41.039 and so she was doing a little hitch in Chicago. 2391 01:54:41.720 --> 01:54:42.159 Key mind. 2392 01:54:42.239 --> 01:54:46.960 She was from Lafayette, Louisiana and had experienced some winters 2393 01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:49.720 you know, around the world and whatever, but nothing like 2394 01:54:49.800 --> 01:54:53.159 this shit. This was the year of the blizzards shit 2395 01:54:53.600 --> 01:54:54.840 six seven years ago. 2396 01:54:54.880 --> 01:54:55.760 Maybe I'm not sure. 2397 01:54:56.279 --> 01:55:00.279 And the warning was, hey, we don't walk out your 2398 01:55:00.279 --> 01:55:02.880 house without a face covering because the air is so 2399 01:55:03.039 --> 01:55:06.319 cold it might collapse your lungs. To make sure you 2400 01:55:06.399 --> 01:55:08.600 wear something over your face to warm the air as 2401 01:55:08.640 --> 01:55:11.840 it's going into your mouth. And I'm just like, I 2402 01:55:11.960 --> 01:55:14.840 keep my eye am from Louisiana, Like I don't ever 2403 01:55:14.840 --> 01:55:18.520 want to live north of it. Ten again, I'm trying 2404 01:55:18.520 --> 01:55:21.399 to stick as close to the dirty golf of Mexico 2405 01:55:21.560 --> 01:55:25.039 waters as possible. So to hear that that you might 2406 01:55:25.079 --> 01:55:27.720 as well be at the fucking North Pole, Like why 2407 01:55:27.800 --> 01:55:29.399 aren't you in Antarctica right now? 2408 01:55:29.439 --> 01:55:31.720 And secondly, why are people living there? You know what 2409 01:55:31.760 --> 01:55:32.039 I mean? 2410 01:55:32.079 --> 01:55:35.079 So like, bro, now you're in Florida and I feel 2411 01:55:35.119 --> 01:55:37.600 you fuck those zero degree nothing's. 2412 01:55:37.880 --> 01:55:40.000 Yeah, well I would you know. I had the golden 2413 01:55:40.039 --> 01:55:42.600 handcuffs on, I had the teacher pension, and I was 2414 01:55:42.640 --> 01:55:44.439 locked in. I was never leaving my. 2415 01:55:45.319 --> 01:55:46.840 The golden handcuffs. 2416 01:55:46.880 --> 01:55:49.000 I like that, Yeah, dude, I you know I had 2417 01:55:49.039 --> 01:55:52.279 summers off, I had winter break, I had spring break. 2418 01:55:52.359 --> 01:55:54.800 I was never gonna leave that. I was going to 2419 01:55:54.880 --> 01:55:57.079 retire as a teacher and then move down here. But 2420 01:55:57.840 --> 01:56:01.680 once I realized that, you know, I could manifest and 2421 01:56:01.720 --> 01:56:03.680 that I was like a slave to that job. Now 2422 01:56:03.840 --> 01:56:06.399 you know, I do what I want all day every day, 2423 01:56:06.399 --> 01:56:08.399 and like a lot of time I'm working because I'm 2424 01:56:08.399 --> 01:56:10.840 creating a lot of content, but like, I love doing that. 2425 01:56:10.920 --> 01:56:12.600 And you know, I thought I was happy as a 2426 01:56:12.640 --> 01:56:15.279 teacher with summer breaks off. Now like every day is 2427 01:56:15.319 --> 01:56:18.359 summer break now, and and honestly, that couldn't have happened 2428 01:56:18.600 --> 01:56:21.479 unless I figured out where I lived and you know, 2429 01:56:22.199 --> 01:56:24.960 and figured out that I'm a spiritual being having this 2430 01:56:25.079 --> 01:56:27.880 experience here. I didn't realize that, and so I figured 2431 01:56:27.920 --> 01:56:30.880 out there's actually like a god that created this place. 2432 01:56:30.960 --> 01:56:34.800 So you know, getting back to flat Earth doesn't matter. 2433 01:56:34.840 --> 01:56:36.439 It definitely mattered for me for sure. 2434 01:56:36.840 --> 01:56:38.319 Oh, I totally get it, dude. 2435 01:56:38.359 --> 01:56:43.000 I mean it's it's that's totally like relatable, I think 2436 01:56:43.039 --> 01:56:46.279 at least for us too. But you know, we were 2437 01:56:46.319 --> 01:56:48.880 talking about Louisiana, Jacob, you were talking about the Golf 2438 01:56:48.920 --> 01:56:52.800 of Mexico, and Tyler you were talking about telling him 2439 01:56:52.840 --> 01:56:54.960 to come out to Illinois to be able to see 2440 01:56:55.920 --> 01:56:59.520 the flat area out there. We have a pretty particularly 2441 01:57:00.359 --> 01:57:03.800 flat space in Louisiana known as is It Lake? 2442 01:57:03.960 --> 01:57:04.159 Is It? 2443 01:57:04.159 --> 01:57:07.439 The Lake Pacha train bridge is on. 2444 01:57:07.399 --> 01:57:10.159 The largest bridge, although it's not really flat, it's a 2445 01:57:10.159 --> 01:57:12.279 big arc at the at the middle of. 2446 01:57:12.279 --> 01:57:14.760 It's the highest point. And then he goes downhill from there. 2447 01:57:15.039 --> 01:57:17.560 Sure, but you can see it for miles and miles 2448 01:57:17.560 --> 01:57:20.039 and miles when when you're on the bridge you can 2449 01:57:20.199 --> 01:57:22.600 see you shouldn't be able to see that far, right. 2450 01:57:23.680 --> 01:57:26.119 I think you should be able to. 2451 01:57:26.239 --> 01:57:29.239 There's what's that one with the power poles, the electric 2452 01:57:29.319 --> 01:57:31.680 poles that go out so far and it's like, well, 2453 01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:32.640 how does it go that way? 2454 01:57:32.680 --> 01:57:33.880 It's like, well, if you look at it. 2455 01:57:33.800 --> 01:57:36.760 It's not going down, it's going up, because that's how 2456 01:57:36.800 --> 01:57:38.640 perspective works well. 2457 01:57:38.640 --> 01:57:41.039 And they actually proved that one that one wrong too, 2458 01:57:41.199 --> 01:57:44.119 that if you zoom in on it with with the 2459 01:57:44.119 --> 01:57:48.199 telescope or or whatever, that it all really is just 2460 01:57:48.359 --> 01:57:51.479 flat and level, you know. So that's where I that's 2461 01:57:51.479 --> 01:57:53.439 where I question it, you know. And I'm not I'm 2462 01:57:53.439 --> 01:57:54.760 not trying to sit here and say that I'm a 2463 01:57:54.760 --> 01:57:57.399 full on flat earther. I love all the points that they, 2464 01:57:57.479 --> 01:57:59.560 you know, the flat earthers bring up. I think that 2465 01:57:59.600 --> 01:58:04.399 a flat earth there's a lot more realistic than a 2466 01:58:04.439 --> 01:58:07.359 ball Earth because the ball Earth it just seems fucking 2467 01:58:07.439 --> 01:58:08.159 ludicrous to me. 2468 01:58:08.279 --> 01:58:08.520 Dude. 2469 01:58:08.520 --> 01:58:12.119 I don't know, so I think I you know, this 2470 01:58:12.239 --> 01:58:15.800 is an unofficial this is just I haven't seen anything further, 2471 01:58:16.199 --> 01:58:21.960 and I think I unofficially set the long distance photography 2472 01:58:22.079 --> 01:58:26.760 record without elevation. So I was in Jacksonville a couple 2473 01:58:26.800 --> 01:58:30.159 of weeks ago, and I wasn't doing anything flat earth related. 2474 01:58:30.199 --> 01:58:32.079 I was just my wife and I were walking on 2475 01:58:32.119 --> 01:58:34.720 the beach looking for shark teeth, and I just kept 2476 01:58:34.760 --> 01:58:39.359 seeing what looked like buildings in the distance and they 2477 01:58:39.399 --> 01:58:41.880 were like real low and real thing. I just kept looking. 2478 01:58:41.920 --> 01:58:44.279 I'm like, what is that? And I asked a couple 2479 01:58:44.279 --> 01:58:46.199 of the locals. They're like, I don't know. You can't 2480 01:58:46.199 --> 01:58:50.239 always see it, but it's always there. And I'm like, 2481 01:58:50.880 --> 01:58:53.640 I got out my Google and I aimed a little blue, 2482 01:58:53.920 --> 01:58:56.600 you know, directional thing right at it. And I was 2483 01:58:56.640 --> 01:59:00.079 looking right at Charleston, which is Charleston, South Carolina, and 2484 01:59:00.079 --> 01:59:02.159 I'm like, no freaking way. I'm like, you know, even 2485 01:59:02.199 --> 01:59:04.239 as a flat earther, I'm like, there's no freaking way 2486 01:59:04.239 --> 01:59:07.560 I'm seeing Charleston one hundred and ninety three miles away 2487 01:59:07.960 --> 01:59:12.000 from Jacksonville, Florida. So I didn't have my nikon camera, 2488 01:59:12.079 --> 01:59:14.479 but I did everything I could to like screenshot at 2489 01:59:14.520 --> 01:59:18.600 a video and zoom in and this and that and 2490 01:59:18.600 --> 01:59:21.039 and I got it good. Enough where I could make 2491 01:59:21.079 --> 01:59:24.239 out some of the shapes and of the buildings. And 2492 01:59:24.279 --> 01:59:25.680 I went and I tried to match it up, and 2493 01:59:25.840 --> 01:59:28.760 like did the I did one image and another image 2494 01:59:28.760 --> 01:59:32.000 of Charleston. The images I captured and faded it in 2495 01:59:32.039 --> 01:59:35.079 and out, and it is a perfect match for Charleston. 2496 01:59:35.239 --> 01:59:38.479 And then I went back there a week later. I 2497 01:59:38.520 --> 01:59:40.960 had to wait for like the perfect conditions, and I 2498 01:59:40.960 --> 01:59:43.279 needed to go back really fast because the sun is 2499 01:59:43.319 --> 01:59:46.399 traveling south for the winter, you know, in the flat 2500 01:59:46.439 --> 01:59:48.439 Earth model, it's kind of doing it's loop, and it's 2501 01:59:48.439 --> 01:59:51.399 traveling further south. So I had to get out there 2502 01:59:51.399 --> 01:59:55.159 before it would move too far away to backlight the 2503 01:59:55.159 --> 01:59:58.159 city of Charleston. And I went back with my nikon. 2504 01:59:58.199 --> 02:00:01.039 I woke up at three in the morning, drove four hours, 2505 02:00:01.399 --> 02:00:04.079 and I get there and it's freaking hazy. So you know, 2506 02:00:04.159 --> 02:00:06.600 it's like, I know, I saw what I saw, but 2507 02:00:06.720 --> 02:00:09.279 to actually prove it, I needed the Nikon camera. 2508 02:00:09.319 --> 02:00:11.520 But that's one hundred and sixty miles. 2509 02:00:11.600 --> 02:00:14.039 Is that how as the crow flies one hundred and 2510 02:00:14.039 --> 02:00:16.760 sixty or is that drive time one hundred and sixty. 2511 02:00:16.560 --> 02:00:21.079 One hundred and ninety four miles directly across Google Maps 2512 02:00:21.119 --> 02:00:23.760 from point to point, so like across the ocean. 2513 02:00:24.079 --> 02:00:27.039 Yeah, okay, so straight shot as the crow flies. Okay, yes, 2514 02:00:27.279 --> 02:00:29.159 so you were able to see this. 2515 02:00:29.199 --> 02:00:31.039 And what is the the. 2516 02:00:31.199 --> 02:00:34.159 Twenty five thousand miles of curvature there were supposed or 2517 02:00:34.399 --> 02:00:37.880 twenty five thousand feet of curvature is supposed to be 2518 02:00:37.960 --> 02:00:39.840 there based on the globe map. 2519 02:00:40.800 --> 02:00:43.399 So that's one, you know, a thousand feet of curvature, 2520 02:00:43.439 --> 02:00:46.760 and that's what one is it eight inches per one 2521 02:00:46.840 --> 02:00:48.279 foot or something like that. 2522 02:00:48.319 --> 02:00:52.880 Eight inches per mile squared? And I think twenty five 2523 02:00:53.119 --> 02:00:57.840 thousand feet was something like six feet or six miles 2524 02:00:57.960 --> 02:01:00.720 or something like that. So I mean it's if I 2525 02:01:00.840 --> 02:01:05.239 saw what I saw, its undeniable evidence, but I'm not 2526 02:01:05.239 --> 02:01:07.760 one hundred percent sure it was like a well. 2527 02:01:09.079 --> 02:01:11.279 I'm with you. So you were seeing like the tops 2528 02:01:11.279 --> 02:01:12.359 of the buildings right. 2529 02:01:14.600 --> 02:01:17.439 Enough to identify what they were? Yeah, definitely not the 2530 02:01:17.479 --> 02:01:18.960 bottoms of the buildings. 2531 02:01:19.119 --> 02:01:21.520 Right, But that wouldn't that make sense if there was 2532 02:01:21.800 --> 02:01:24.760 a slight pitch to the area that you would see 2533 02:01:24.880 --> 02:01:27.399 the tops of these buildings in a crystal day where 2534 02:01:27.439 --> 02:01:28.439 the conditions are right. 2535 02:01:29.600 --> 02:01:32.840 Well, I mean not not based on the amount of 2536 02:01:32.920 --> 02:01:34.960 curvature that's supposed to be because. 2537 02:01:35.079 --> 02:01:37.159 I don't know the height of the buildings or anything. 2538 02:01:37.199 --> 02:01:38.800 These aren't I don't think they're skyscrapers. 2539 02:01:38.800 --> 02:01:41.079 Are talking they're not twenty five thousand feet. Yeah, there's 2540 02:01:41.119 --> 02:01:42.560 no such thing as a twenty three. 2541 02:01:42.399 --> 02:01:43.880 Well no, no, no, no, it wasn't. 2542 02:01:43.880 --> 02:01:46.680 You're talking about twenty five thousand feet. Was the elevation 2543 02:01:46.960 --> 02:01:48.159 that you were supposed to be seeing. 2544 02:01:48.640 --> 02:01:54.119 That was the amount in the in the earth curvature calculator, 2545 02:01:54.159 --> 02:01:55.600 and I did it in like five of them, not 2546 02:01:55.720 --> 02:01:59.560 the flat earth curvature calculator, the earth curvature like the 2547 02:01:59.800 --> 02:02:03.000 think there's an omni calculator. There was supposed to be 2548 02:02:03.079 --> 02:02:06.960 twenty five thousand feet of obscured object. They label it 2549 02:02:07.000 --> 02:02:08.439 as whoa. 2550 02:02:08.800 --> 02:02:11.479 So you shouldn't be able to see that building or 2551 02:02:11.520 --> 02:02:14.079 any of those buildings if you're talking about twenty feet. 2552 02:02:13.880 --> 02:02:16.279 All, and even if you would like, you know, it'd 2553 02:02:16.279 --> 02:02:21.199 be like totally perpendicular to where it should be. And 2554 02:02:21.239 --> 02:02:23.600 those things are pointing straight up, you know. If you 2555 02:02:23.640 --> 02:02:24.600 catch my drift. 2556 02:02:24.359 --> 02:02:27.840 On that, I did think of how the helmet do 2557 02:02:27.920 --> 02:02:30.560 the math on this? Hold on, man, you're fucking me up. 2558 02:02:32.760 --> 02:02:34.960 Yeah, I mean the math is the math you shouldn't 2559 02:02:34.960 --> 02:02:37.239 be able to see The math is math. I feel 2560 02:02:37.239 --> 02:02:41.079 like I'm fucking Trump right now, but like, you shouldn't 2561 02:02:41.119 --> 02:02:43.359 be able to see that much of a building if 2562 02:02:43.399 --> 02:02:46.079 you're supposed if you're taking away twenty five thousand feet 2563 02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:49.560 of the curvature, you would you would be obviously rising 2564 02:02:49.600 --> 02:02:51.800 it up from the ground and it would be going 2565 02:02:51.880 --> 02:02:54.000 over the tops of those buildings because none of those 2566 02:02:54.039 --> 02:02:58.399 buildings are twenty five thousand feet and so that's I 2567 02:02:58.680 --> 02:02:59.880 don't know what to do with that. 2568 02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:03.520 I mean, if it's what I think it is, it's 2569 02:03:03.760 --> 02:03:06.680 the greatest flat earth proof that anyone's ever come up with, 2570 02:03:06.760 --> 02:03:10.600 in my opinion, because it's there's no refraction, you know, Chicago. 2571 02:03:10.720 --> 02:03:13.279 You can maybe say the buildings are refracted up because 2572 02:03:13.880 --> 02:03:17.600 it's supposed to be sixteen hundred feet of curvature. Sixteen 2573 02:03:17.640 --> 02:03:20.800 hundred feet is different than twenty five thousand feet of curvature. 2574 02:03:21.039 --> 02:03:24.600 That would mean the building is literally traveling six miles 2575 02:03:24.720 --> 02:03:28.199 up into the air and light was curving around the 2576 02:03:28.239 --> 02:03:30.119 ball so you could see it. I mean, it's like 2577 02:03:30.399 --> 02:03:31.399 total nonsense. 2578 02:03:31.640 --> 02:03:35.279 It would literally have to be a skyscraper literally scraping 2579 02:03:35.319 --> 02:03:36.119 the fucking sky. 2580 02:03:36.279 --> 02:03:40.319 Ye you know what I mean scrapping the firmament basically. 2581 02:03:40.439 --> 02:03:41.159 Right, right? 2582 02:03:41.439 --> 02:03:45.279 You know what's interesting about the firmament though, So as 2583 02:03:45.279 --> 02:03:47.479 far as the firmament goes, where at least the people 2584 02:03:47.479 --> 02:03:51.000 who are like pro firmament are you? Is it of 2585 02:03:51.119 --> 02:03:55.720 your opinion that all of the stars are basically the 2586 02:03:55.800 --> 02:03:57.239 same distance away from us? 2587 02:03:57.359 --> 02:03:59.039 I guess depending on where you're at on the. 2588 02:03:58.960 --> 02:04:00.680 Earth as far as the equation, or if you're at 2589 02:04:00.680 --> 02:04:02.439 the North Pole, or if you're just here in America 2590 02:04:02.520 --> 02:04:05.600 or whatever. But like would if they're all like on 2591 02:04:05.680 --> 02:04:09.520 a blanket, that means that they would all be relatively 2592 02:04:09.640 --> 02:04:13.000 the same distance from us, right, that you wouldn't have 2593 02:04:13.319 --> 02:04:15.079 stars that are billions of light years away? 2594 02:04:15.119 --> 02:04:15.239 Then? 2595 02:04:15.359 --> 02:04:19.239 Right? Yeah? Well, I do you know, like I do think, 2596 02:04:19.359 --> 02:04:21.600 like I said, living down here in Florida, I do 2597 02:04:21.640 --> 02:04:24.239 feel like the stars are closer because I think the 2598 02:04:24.279 --> 02:04:28.199 firmament or the stars are somehow in the firmament, and 2599 02:04:28.279 --> 02:04:32.039 I think the firmament being dome shaped. I think the 2600 02:04:32.079 --> 02:04:34.199 further south you go, the lower the furment gets. So 2601 02:04:34.800 --> 02:04:36.760 I look up in the night sky every single day, 2602 02:04:36.760 --> 02:04:38.760 I had my nightkin out every day, Like the stars 2603 02:04:38.800 --> 02:04:43.039 are noticeably closer here than one thousand miles north in Chicago, 2604 02:04:43.119 --> 02:04:45.319 or twelve hundred miles north in Chicago. 2605 02:04:46.079 --> 02:04:46.560 Right right. 2606 02:04:46.600 --> 02:04:49.199 But like let's say you're out in Florida right now, 2607 02:04:49.199 --> 02:04:51.560 and you look up in the sky. All the stars 2608 02:04:51.600 --> 02:04:54.119 that are seemingly bigger, all the stars that are seemingly 2609 02:04:54.359 --> 02:04:58.319 smaller or farther away or closer, that's just what size 2610 02:04:58.359 --> 02:05:01.279 they are on the firmament, awarding to your perspective at 2611 02:05:01.279 --> 02:05:01.800 that moment. 2612 02:05:02.800 --> 02:05:05.520 Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, that's a good question. 2613 02:05:05.680 --> 02:05:09.239 You know, I think there could be different sized stars, 2614 02:05:09.279 --> 02:05:12.039 but I think it's based on their luminosity. You know. 2615 02:05:12.079 --> 02:05:14.359 Like one of the things that I found super cool is, 2616 02:05:15.119 --> 02:05:17.520 you know, a lot of people know that the Pyramids 2617 02:05:17.520 --> 02:05:21.600 of Egypt are built aligned with the with Orion's belt, 2618 02:05:21.640 --> 02:05:23.880 But one of the things I didn't know at first 2619 02:05:24.039 --> 02:05:26.840 was that they're also the size of them is built 2620 02:05:26.920 --> 02:05:29.640 on the luminosity of the stars. So the brighter the star, 2621 02:05:30.239 --> 02:05:33.359 the bigger the pyramid. So the Great Pyramid is aligned 2622 02:05:33.359 --> 02:05:36.159 with the brightest star of Orion's belt. So you know, 2623 02:05:36.720 --> 02:05:38.920 I don't know if the size of the stars are different, 2624 02:05:38.960 --> 02:05:41.199 the brightness of the star is different. If they are 2625 02:05:41.279 --> 02:05:45.199 further distances within the firmament. I don't know that's speculation for. 2626 02:05:45.279 --> 02:05:49.600 Me, Okay, I mean, dude, look, I love talking about 2627 02:05:49.640 --> 02:05:52.039 all this kind of stuff because I think that if 2628 02:05:52.079 --> 02:05:55.960 you keep an open mind and just not automatically say, oh, 2629 02:05:56.039 --> 02:05:59.199 here's another fucking flat earth. They're talking about flat earth 2630 02:05:59.279 --> 02:06:01.479 kind of shit, like I think the no if you 2631 02:06:01.640 --> 02:06:04.279 just listen to it, and even if you're just viewing 2632 02:06:04.319 --> 02:06:08.239 it as entertainment, like just let it come and soak 2633 02:06:08.359 --> 02:06:11.960 up your soul and your consciousness and just look at 2634 02:06:12.039 --> 02:06:14.399 it for what he's trying to say. Here it starts 2635 02:06:14.439 --> 02:06:18.399 to make a little bit of sense, and that why 2636 02:06:18.640 --> 02:06:22.079 does flat earth make so much sense? That's the question. 2637 02:06:22.439 --> 02:06:25.960 It should be so asinine. It shouldn't even be close 2638 02:06:26.399 --> 02:06:29.199 to anything that they're talking about is truth. If we 2639 02:06:29.279 --> 02:06:33.279 live on a ball, this should all be ridiculous. None 2640 02:06:33.319 --> 02:06:35.319 of it should make sense. That's the way I look 2641 02:06:35.359 --> 02:06:36.840 at it thousand percent. 2642 02:06:37.199 --> 02:06:40.600 And you know, just for people listening, like I've been 2643 02:06:40.600 --> 02:06:41.840 a flatter through a year and a half and I 2644 02:06:41.880 --> 02:06:43.720 thought it was the stupidest thing I ever heard of. 2645 02:06:43.880 --> 02:06:46.800 I literally told my wife this was just like before 2646 02:06:46.840 --> 02:06:50.079 I was even starting to research things, but kept behind 2647 02:06:50.079 --> 02:06:52.880 the curve kept popping up on Netflix, and I looked 2648 02:06:52.920 --> 02:06:54.359 at my wife down in the face. I was like, 2649 02:06:54.439 --> 02:06:57.039 I think I got to watch this just to see 2650 02:06:57.279 --> 02:06:59.279 one like an hour and a half documentary. I got 2651 02:06:59.359 --> 02:07:02.439 to watch this to see how one person in today's 2652 02:07:02.439 --> 02:07:05.239 age can believe the Earth is flat, and like I 2653 02:07:05.319 --> 02:07:08.199 was watching it, like, come on, proved like have one 2654 02:07:08.359 --> 02:07:10.560 thought that would make me be like, okay, I could 2655 02:07:10.560 --> 02:07:12.000 see how they would at least see that, and I 2656 02:07:12.039 --> 02:07:15.920 watched the movie. Something came up with like flight pass. 2657 02:07:16.000 --> 02:07:17.680 I was like, well, that's kind of interesting. And then 2658 02:07:17.760 --> 02:07:19.600 by the end of the movie they proved that wrong, 2659 02:07:19.640 --> 02:07:22.239 and I was like, flat Earth is the stupidest thing ever. 2660 02:07:22.399 --> 02:07:24.479 That movie just proved to me how dumb it is. 2661 02:07:25.000 --> 02:07:26.600 And what I didn't realize at the time is that 2662 02:07:26.600 --> 02:07:29.600 that movie was completely created to do exactly what it 2663 02:07:29.640 --> 02:07:32.319 did to me is make me not think about flat 2664 02:07:32.359 --> 02:07:35.359 Earth again for another year and a half until I 2665 02:07:35.520 --> 02:07:38.279 started waking up to other things, and then I was like, 2666 02:07:38.359 --> 02:07:41.479 wait a second, like maybe I should look back at 2667 02:07:41.520 --> 02:07:44.600 flat Earth, especially now that I'm seeing there are dog 2668 02:07:44.640 --> 02:07:47.119 images in the stars that I'm looking at with my 2669 02:07:47.199 --> 02:07:50.199 own eyes. And that's a whole nother story for you know, 2670 02:07:50.600 --> 02:07:54.279 a whole other podcast. But yeah, that I mean bottom 2671 02:07:54.279 --> 02:07:58.479 line is that Netflix documentary is meant to make people 2672 02:07:58.479 --> 02:07:59.239 think it's stupid. 2673 02:08:00.119 --> 02:08:01.720 Let me ask you this now, as we're talking about 2674 02:08:01.760 --> 02:08:05.439 stars in the firmament, and you brought up the Mars 2675 02:08:05.520 --> 02:08:10.560 rover earlier. What is your take on other planets or 2676 02:08:10.720 --> 02:08:14.239 the galaxy as we think of it, or what actually 2677 02:08:14.279 --> 02:08:16.640 is out there? What do you think is really going 2678 02:08:16.640 --> 02:08:18.119 on on the other side of our firmament. 2679 02:08:19.279 --> 02:08:21.520 It's a good question. You know. I can only speculate, 2680 02:08:21.560 --> 02:08:24.880 and I've changed my mind with my speculation. But you know, 2681 02:08:24.880 --> 02:08:30.239 when I first woke up, my initial thoughts were, we're here. 2682 02:08:30.359 --> 02:08:33.399 We're in this realm of sorts. There's the firmament, and 2683 02:08:33.439 --> 02:08:35.720 then it's the spirit world. And then you know, the 2684 02:08:35.720 --> 02:08:40.640 more research I've done, the more I've seen, I think 2685 02:08:40.680 --> 02:08:43.239 there's got to be more outside of here. I think 2686 02:08:43.279 --> 02:08:47.720 potentially we are in like this enclosed, tiny little bubble 2687 02:08:47.800 --> 02:08:51.560 system and maybe we're the only you know, like I 2688 02:08:51.600 --> 02:08:55.359 think potentially we're like ants in a much bigger world. 2689 02:08:55.439 --> 02:08:58.279 Because some of the things that I have found just 2690 02:08:58.359 --> 02:09:00.399 in Google Maps, you know, like I found aagon that 2691 02:09:00.479 --> 02:09:04.199 is literally like one hundred miles long in Utah, and 2692 02:09:04.199 --> 02:09:07.359 and I think it's it's very clear that this thing existed. 2693 02:09:07.399 --> 02:09:10.039 It's very clear. You know, there's scale. You can like 2694 02:09:10.119 --> 02:09:12.800 track the scales. You can see its jaw and its 2695 02:09:12.880 --> 02:09:16.000 teeth and its molars. They even like where its mouth 2696 02:09:16.239 --> 02:09:18.439 is petrified. You can even if they even call it 2697 02:09:18.560 --> 02:09:22.159 dragon dragon Head Canyon. Like, there's so much evidence that 2698 02:09:22.840 --> 02:09:25.840 these giant creatures existed. And to me, I'm like, well, 2699 02:09:26.119 --> 02:09:30.079 where we live seems too small to have housed a 2700 02:09:30.359 --> 02:09:34.720 hundred mile long dragon. So I think there's potentially more 2701 02:09:34.760 --> 02:09:37.119 outside of here. And we're just in this protected little 2702 02:09:37.359 --> 02:09:41.000 terrarium that God for some reason really likes and has 2703 02:09:41.000 --> 02:09:43.640 an interest in. And you know, maybe if that firmament 2704 02:09:43.680 --> 02:09:47.760 never opens up, that's why there's underground tunnels, because to 2705 02:09:47.840 --> 02:09:50.680 hide from the scary one hundred mile creatures that would 2706 02:09:50.760 --> 02:09:52.239 want to eat us or whatever. You know. 2707 02:09:52.800 --> 02:09:55.479 So, as far as other planets go, what are you 2708 02:09:56.000 --> 02:09:56.800 you take on that. 2709 02:09:58.520 --> 02:09:59.319 We're given the moon? 2710 02:09:59.479 --> 02:09:59.560 What? 2711 02:10:00.079 --> 02:10:02.039 But yeah, answer the planet? When then I have questions 2712 02:10:02.039 --> 02:10:03.239 about that? Yeah, first plan. 2713 02:10:04.239 --> 02:10:08.680 You know, I think potentially, just again my thought on it, 2714 02:10:08.720 --> 02:10:13.279 I think planets are potentially where potentially where fallen angels 2715 02:10:13.319 --> 02:10:16.279 came through the firmament. Potentially that like they left a hole. 2716 02:10:16.359 --> 02:10:21.279 Potentially they're portals. Potentially they're even holding cells. Like you 2717 02:10:21.319 --> 02:10:25.279 guys remember the original Christopher Reeves Superman when the three 2718 02:10:25.319 --> 02:10:28.439 bad guys were like thrown into the little like mirrored 2719 02:10:28.520 --> 02:10:31.880 thing and like trapped in there and in space. You know, 2720 02:10:31.920 --> 02:10:34.159 part of me thinks that, you know, some fallen angels 2721 02:10:34.159 --> 02:10:36.760 are trapped in the planets and that's why you know 2722 02:10:36.880 --> 02:10:40.920 they call these Greek god's names or these ancient god's 2723 02:10:41.039 --> 02:10:44.439 names and worshiped Venus and Saturn and all these things. 2724 02:10:44.640 --> 02:10:47.840 I don't know all that speculation. Again, Like the only 2725 02:10:47.880 --> 02:10:51.239 thing I know is it's not something quintillions of miles 2726 02:10:51.279 --> 02:10:53.239 away that's a burning ball gas. 2727 02:10:53.319 --> 02:10:57.119 Well, not just the Sun like for instance, Mercury, Jupiter, 2728 02:10:57.880 --> 02:11:01.800 Mars even right, do you believe these planets like they 2729 02:11:01.800 --> 02:11:04.479 were looking at through a telescope and an observatory or whatever. 2730 02:11:04.520 --> 02:11:06.560 Do you believe that that's like Mars is actually a 2731 02:11:06.600 --> 02:11:09.760 red ball of rust and stuff, or do you believe 2732 02:11:09.800 --> 02:11:12.560 it's more just the star that's fixated in the firmament 2733 02:11:12.680 --> 02:11:13.399 that we call. 2734 02:11:13.319 --> 02:11:15.960 Wars, Yeah, the one you know, like the Bible used 2735 02:11:16.000 --> 02:11:18.960 to call them their Bible refers to him as wandering stars. 2736 02:11:19.000 --> 02:11:21.399 I mean, there are lights in the firmament. And that's 2737 02:11:21.439 --> 02:11:23.199 about as much as I can say. You know, like 2738 02:11:23.560 --> 02:11:27.479 I zoomed in on Saturn really well the other day. 2739 02:11:27.479 --> 02:11:29.880 And the funny thing is is I remember seeing Saturn 2740 02:11:29.960 --> 02:11:32.439 when I was in college. I went to school with 2741 02:11:32.479 --> 02:11:35.359 a really good observatory, and I remember looking at it 2742 02:11:35.439 --> 02:11:38.000 and telling my I'm like, man, it looks fake. And 2743 02:11:38.399 --> 02:11:41.840 so you know, I don't know, I don't think they're terrifying. 2744 02:11:41.880 --> 02:11:45.000 You've seen in observatory, and like you've seen them on 2745 02:11:45.079 --> 02:11:47.520 a good night like with the planets and ship. 2746 02:11:47.640 --> 02:11:50.000 Yeah. Yeah, And I have a you know, a really 2747 02:11:50.000 --> 02:11:52.439 good zoom camera. I've got the PW one thousand zoom camera. 2748 02:11:52.479 --> 02:11:56.199 I look on a daily basis, and you know, they're 2749 02:11:56.199 --> 02:11:59.520 producing their own light. I don't think they're reflecting the 2750 02:11:59.560 --> 02:12:03.039 sun light from ninety three million miles. Well, you know, 2751 02:12:03.119 --> 02:12:06.039 for something like Jupiter, the sun would have to be 2752 02:12:06.159 --> 02:12:09.640 projecting its late eight hundred million miles, well seven hundred 2753 02:12:09.680 --> 02:12:12.800 million miles and then another eight hundred million miles back 2754 02:12:12.840 --> 02:12:15.199 to us for us to see Jupiter in the sky. 2755 02:12:15.359 --> 02:12:18.399 And well, I'm just happy you're seeing the planets, because 2756 02:12:18.439 --> 02:12:20.600 so many people say they look through a telescope and 2757 02:12:20.640 --> 02:12:24.439 all they see is like through a liquid haze of 2758 02:12:24.479 --> 02:12:26.920 a light or something. I'm like, no, no, At an 2759 02:12:26.920 --> 02:12:29.399 observatory you can really see Mars. And like, no, you 2760 02:12:29.439 --> 02:12:31.359 mean the light spectrum of Mars. I'm like, no, no, 2761 02:12:31.560 --> 02:12:32.600 the planet, the ball. 2762 02:12:33.239 --> 02:12:37.479 Well, so I've Saturn looks like Saturn, not like they like. 2763 02:12:37.520 --> 02:12:40.760 It doesn't look like like the rings they show and 2764 02:12:40.800 --> 02:12:44.800 the colors they show. I see what looks to be spherical. 2765 02:12:45.199 --> 02:12:48.920 It could just be round and not sphakal. It looks 2766 02:12:48.960 --> 02:12:52.640 like that. There is definitely a ring around it. Mars. 2767 02:12:53.199 --> 02:12:56.359 I you know, Mars, I definitely don't see with much color. 2768 02:12:56.399 --> 02:13:01.840 It's just bright and shimmering. But Saturn and Venus to. 2769 02:13:02.359 --> 02:13:04.680 Venus, Venus is right. 2770 02:13:04.760 --> 02:13:07.119 Yeah, it's the brightest thing in the sky other than 2771 02:13:07.159 --> 02:13:09.319 the Moon and the Sun. And yeah, and you know, 2772 02:13:09.359 --> 02:13:11.840 I don't see anything there but shimmering light when I 2773 02:13:11.920 --> 02:13:15.600 zoom in on it. And one of the things about 2774 02:13:15.640 --> 02:13:18.319 Venus that people should think about is it is supposedly 2775 02:13:18.520 --> 02:13:21.199 closer to the Sun than us. You know, so if 2776 02:13:21.680 --> 02:13:23.840 you try to think of like the Solar system, they 2777 02:13:23.840 --> 02:13:28.399 give us Venus would be inside of the Earth closer 2778 02:13:28.399 --> 02:13:30.880 to the Sun, so you should only be able to 2779 02:13:30.880 --> 02:13:34.159 see Venus when you were on the dark side of 2780 02:13:34.600 --> 02:13:38.359 or no, I'm sorry, the bright side of the Earth, 2781 02:13:38.439 --> 02:13:42.079 because if it's inside of Earth, you would have to 2782 02:13:42.119 --> 02:13:45.399 be facing the Sun to see Venus. But we see 2783 02:13:45.479 --> 02:13:48.279 Venus when we're facing away from the Sun, so we 2784 02:13:48.319 --> 02:13:51.319 would be facing away from the Sun. Yet Venus is 2785 02:13:51.359 --> 02:13:53.640 closer to the Sun. Yet somehow we still see Venus. 2786 02:13:53.720 --> 02:13:55.960 And I don't know if I painted a great picture 2787 02:13:56.039 --> 02:13:59.159 for that, but it's just another evidence that what they're 2788 02:13:59.199 --> 02:14:01.880 telling us is and exactly lining up. 2789 02:14:03.359 --> 02:14:03.840 Heard that. 2790 02:14:04.640 --> 02:14:08.279 Now, Okay, so you believe that at least planets exist, 2791 02:14:08.479 --> 02:14:11.279 but they may not be what they tell us that 2792 02:14:11.359 --> 02:14:11.800 they are. 2793 02:14:11.960 --> 02:14:13.279 Now, what is. 2794 02:14:13.239 --> 02:14:17.800 Your take on the moon and again, completely conjecture, completely 2795 02:14:17.920 --> 02:14:21.600 super independent, hypothetical to you. We've heard people say that 2796 02:14:21.680 --> 02:14:25.079 it's a fake. We've had people say that it's hollow. 2797 02:14:25.119 --> 02:14:27.399 We've had people say that it's an alien parking lot. 2798 02:14:27.479 --> 02:14:30.760 We've had people say that, I mean, name your thing. Yeah, 2799 02:14:31.680 --> 02:14:33.880 your research at this time has led you to believe what. 2800 02:14:35.000 --> 02:14:37.520 Well, I'll start with, as I was waking up, I 2801 02:14:37.680 --> 02:14:41.159 definitely was of the mindset that it was some sort 2802 02:14:41.199 --> 02:14:45.239 of you know, alien base or something, and that the 2803 02:14:45.319 --> 02:14:47.560 dark side of the moon. Like what I didn't realize 2804 02:14:47.560 --> 02:14:49.880 at the time, and you know, I fully realize this 2805 02:14:50.000 --> 02:14:51.920 now as a flat ear through because it kind of 2806 02:14:51.960 --> 02:14:54.920 just lets you know how they do things is they 2807 02:14:54.920 --> 02:14:57.319 don't just lie about something. They create a lie and 2808 02:14:57.359 --> 02:14:59.359 then lie about that, and then lie about that. So 2809 02:14:59.359 --> 02:15:01.359 there's like lay of it. And you know, one of 2810 02:15:01.399 --> 02:15:04.119 the ones with the Moon is all right, the initial 2811 02:15:04.119 --> 02:15:07.000 thing is if you're just like, you know, if you 2812 02:15:07.159 --> 02:15:09.319 just believe what we're told they landed on the moon, Okay. 2813 02:15:09.760 --> 02:15:12.800 The next thing is, okay, they they fake the moon 2814 02:15:12.920 --> 02:15:15.479 because they were wanting to beat Russia. So that's the 2815 02:15:15.479 --> 02:15:18.520 first lie. And then the next lie after that is, well, 2816 02:15:18.600 --> 02:15:21.680 they went to the moon, but you know there's secret 2817 02:15:22.000 --> 02:15:25.880 recordings of them hearing them seeing aliens and there they 2818 02:15:25.920 --> 02:15:27.880 really went there kind of like you said, there's aliens 2819 02:15:27.920 --> 02:15:29.840 on the dark side of the moon. And then when 2820 02:15:29.880 --> 02:15:32.079 you really get past all the layers, you're like, okay, 2821 02:15:32.159 --> 02:15:34.399 you just can't go to the moon. And part of 2822 02:15:34.399 --> 02:15:37.560 the whole moon mission was to fake taking pictures of Earth. 2823 02:15:38.239 --> 02:15:40.680 The moon isn't something you can go to. I don't 2824 02:15:40.720 --> 02:15:42.439 claim to know what it is. I do think there's 2825 02:15:42.479 --> 02:15:46.479 potential that it is reflecting some of our Earth realm. 2826 02:15:47.159 --> 02:15:51.439 But I also greatly think that it is possibly projected 2827 02:15:51.520 --> 02:15:53.920 up there. You know, I kind of like I said, 2828 02:15:53.960 --> 02:15:57.520 with the stars, I have found evidence that the stars 2829 02:15:57.560 --> 02:16:00.279 are very different than even what Moost Truthers think I 2830 02:16:00.319 --> 02:16:03.640 think there. I think we're potentially all the night sky 2831 02:16:03.800 --> 02:16:07.319 is holographic in nature, including the moon, and I you know, 2832 02:16:07.359 --> 02:16:10.119 I've I've done a really in my opinion, good video 2833 02:16:10.199 --> 02:16:12.680 on the reason we can't go to the North Pole 2834 02:16:12.760 --> 02:16:16.319 is maybe there's like maybe we're not just in a terrarium, 2835 02:16:16.319 --> 02:16:19.279 but a planetarium where it is projecting the night sky 2836 02:16:19.680 --> 02:16:23.039 from the North Pole that we suspiciously can't go to. 2837 02:16:23.159 --> 02:16:26.560 And not only that, but they created a giant surveillance 2838 02:16:26.640 --> 02:16:29.479 line called the do Line back around the Cold War. 2839 02:16:29.640 --> 02:16:31.840 So you know, they claimed that the Dow Line was 2840 02:16:31.880 --> 02:16:35.399 to detect anyone coming across from Russia. But my opinion 2841 02:16:35.479 --> 02:16:38.799 is to detect anyone going towards that center of our 2842 02:16:38.879 --> 02:16:41.440 flat realm because they don't want you to go. You know, 2843 02:16:41.479 --> 02:16:43.840 if you see the center of the North Pole isn't 2844 02:16:43.920 --> 02:16:46.959 like just a cold frozen tundra wasteland, and maybe there's 2845 02:16:47.000 --> 02:16:52.440 a giant magnetic mountain or a you know, spiraling something 2846 02:16:52.680 --> 02:16:57.520 or a projector projecting our sky that would. 2847 02:16:57.399 --> 02:16:59.879 Kind of like the Northern lights or like the light 2848 02:17:00.040 --> 02:17:01.200 exhaust if you will. 2849 02:17:01.280 --> 02:17:03.200 Yeah, potentially, potentially exactly. 2850 02:17:03.280 --> 02:17:06.479 Yeah, I've you know, we we've had Crow Triple seven 2851 02:17:06.520 --> 02:17:08.000 on the show a couple of years ago and he. 2852 02:17:07.959 --> 02:17:09.239 Talked about his lunar wave. 2853 02:17:09.719 --> 02:17:12.040 I think that that lunar wave just proves that the 2854 02:17:12.040 --> 02:17:14.799 moon is of some kind of hologram or projection or 2855 02:17:14.840 --> 02:17:18.840 something like that, because that makes absolutely zero fucking sense 2856 02:17:19.159 --> 02:17:22.000 to see something like like why would you see like 2857 02:17:22.040 --> 02:17:24.639 a line on a television going on down a planet? 2858 02:17:24.760 --> 02:17:28.000 It makes no sense. Like, I think that we're being 2859 02:17:28.040 --> 02:17:29.879 lied to about a lot of stuff. Now do I 2860 02:17:29.959 --> 02:17:32.559 think that the moon isn't there? I don't know where 2861 02:17:32.680 --> 02:17:33.239 is the Moon. 2862 02:17:33.319 --> 02:17:39.920 I actually I've actually conjured or pondered the idea of maybe. 2863 02:17:39.799 --> 02:17:41.440 The moon conduring or pondering. 2864 02:17:41.559 --> 02:17:44.760 Dude, I'm just pondering. I'm not conjuring yet. 2865 02:17:44.799 --> 02:17:45.959 Both could be both. 2866 02:17:45.959 --> 02:17:47.879 I don't want to conjure or something that's already there, 2867 02:17:47.959 --> 02:17:49.120 you know, then it kind of takes. 2868 02:17:48.959 --> 02:17:51.799 It away, but like the idea that. 2869 02:17:51.680 --> 02:17:56.079 The moon could possibly be within our firmament, right like, 2870 02:17:56.120 --> 02:17:58.319 if we're living, if there is a firmament around us, 2871 02:17:58.360 --> 02:18:00.959 maybe the moon is inside of that, because I mean, 2872 02:18:00.959 --> 02:18:04.479 it's it's fucking I don't know, it must be pretty big, 2873 02:18:04.799 --> 02:18:07.639 right like, And I think that, you know, if you're 2874 02:18:07.719 --> 02:18:10.920 trying to hide something, if you're going to that moon, 2875 02:18:11.040 --> 02:18:13.040 let's say it is in our firmament. And let's say 2876 02:18:13.040 --> 02:18:15.879 that there are people or whatever that have stationed or 2877 02:18:15.920 --> 02:18:17.719 whatever there that it is, you know, a place that 2878 02:18:17.760 --> 02:18:21.399 you can get to space force like you would be 2879 02:18:21.440 --> 02:18:23.559 able like if you if you just put it up, 2880 02:18:23.639 --> 02:18:26.840 put up like a projection over it, you'd be able 2881 02:18:26.840 --> 02:18:29.200 to shield everything that you're doing on the moon, right. 2882 02:18:29.520 --> 02:18:31.840 Yeah, And that's I thought that exact thing, because I 2883 02:18:31.879 --> 02:18:35.120 think the craters are you know, the moon could be real. 2884 02:18:35.120 --> 02:18:37.239 It could, you know. And I'm a believer that God 2885 02:18:37.280 --> 02:18:39.680 created two great lights, one for the day, one for 2886 02:18:39.719 --> 02:18:42.360 the night, and that they were put in the firmament. 2887 02:18:42.760 --> 02:18:45.120 But that doesn't mean that there couldn't be something, like 2888 02:18:45.159 --> 02:18:48.479 you said, projecting over the front of the Moon to 2889 02:18:48.559 --> 02:18:51.959 make the craters kind of align with the whole we're 2890 02:18:51.959 --> 02:18:56.639 living in this infinite galaxy with you know, and all 2891 02:18:56.719 --> 02:18:57.920 these things coming at us. 2892 02:18:58.200 --> 02:19:00.639 Hey, some people believe that if you were to look 2893 02:19:00.680 --> 02:19:04.200 at the Earth and look at the Moon, the shadow 2894 02:19:04.360 --> 02:19:06.000 on the moon, the man on the moon or whatever, 2895 02:19:06.120 --> 02:19:08.239 is actually a correct shadow of. 2896 02:19:08.120 --> 02:19:09.879 The continents on the planet. 2897 02:19:10.399 --> 02:19:10.760 Yeah. 2898 02:19:10.840 --> 02:19:11.920 Right, there's that theory. 2899 02:19:12.319 --> 02:19:14.239 But now, okay, I'm glad you said it the way 2900 02:19:14.239 --> 02:19:15.600 you did. Now I was gonna ask you, do you 2901 02:19:15.639 --> 02:19:17.479 believe that the Sun and the Moon are inside of 2902 02:19:17.479 --> 02:19:20.639 the firmament with us or floating on the outside of 2903 02:19:20.680 --> 02:19:23.440 the firmament just beyond our reach. I've heard, I've seen 2904 02:19:23.520 --> 02:19:26.159 different flat earth models, I've heard different people say different things. 2905 02:19:26.200 --> 02:19:27.200 Where are you at with it? 2906 02:19:28.159 --> 02:19:30.920 So one of my favorite flat earth videos is one 2907 02:19:31.040 --> 02:19:36.760 Dave did where he captured something during the eclipse. You know, 2908 02:19:36.959 --> 02:19:40.239 it looked it matched very similar shape to what the 2909 02:19:40.719 --> 02:19:43.280 you know, the Sun would look like being eclipsed, but 2910 02:19:43.319 --> 02:19:45.239 it wasn't that. It was kind of like behind it. 2911 02:19:45.680 --> 02:19:47.600 And then he duplicated it with kind of like a 2912 02:19:47.639 --> 02:19:52.559 paper towel and the Sun and something eclipsing the flashlight 2913 02:19:52.719 --> 02:19:55.840 behind the paper towel, And I was like, man, that's 2914 02:19:55.959 --> 02:19:59.559 really good evidence that the Sun we're seeing is being 2915 02:19:59.600 --> 02:20:03.360 projected did through the firmament, so the sun source would 2916 02:20:03.399 --> 02:20:06.239 be in the furment, projecting through the layers, kind of 2917 02:20:06.280 --> 02:20:09.040 like the Bible talks about the layers of heaven. And 2918 02:20:09.239 --> 02:20:10.920 I saw this and I thought it was great. And 2919 02:20:10.959 --> 02:20:13.840 then when I witnessed that with my very own eyes 2920 02:20:14.360 --> 02:20:17.879 during the April eighth eclipse, caught it on video. I mean, 2921 02:20:17.920 --> 02:20:20.559 it was just it was too difficult for me to 2922 02:20:20.719 --> 02:20:23.799 not think that the sun we see is kind of 2923 02:20:23.799 --> 02:20:26.399 like a rainbow, not like a solid object that you 2924 02:20:26.440 --> 02:20:29.799 can go to, and that is being projected from something 2925 02:20:30.000 --> 02:20:32.799 further into the firmament, and we just can't really see 2926 02:20:32.840 --> 02:20:35.879 the source because the sun is usually so bright. But 2927 02:20:36.120 --> 02:20:39.120 on a day when it's being eclipsed and it's a 2928 02:20:39.200 --> 02:20:42.920 little less blinding, you can see that source. So I 2929 02:20:42.920 --> 02:20:44.840 think the Sun is in the ferment. I think the 2930 02:20:44.840 --> 02:20:48.120 moon probably is in the firmament too. But I do 2931 02:20:48.200 --> 02:20:51.319 always like to speculate about kind of like the Freemason 2932 02:20:51.399 --> 02:20:55.719 idea of the you know, black hole sun projecting everything 2933 02:20:55.799 --> 02:20:58.440 into the sky. It's kind of interesting to me too. 2934 02:20:58.920 --> 02:21:02.600 Okay, now with that being said, black hole sun, what 2935 02:21:02.959 --> 02:21:05.479 is your take on hollow Earth, Sir? 2936 02:21:05.879 --> 02:21:09.520 I mean, I think there is. There's definitely some things 2937 02:21:09.559 --> 02:21:13.120 going on below us, you know, I don't know. You know, 2938 02:21:13.200 --> 02:21:16.479 the Bible talks about the bottomless pit, and you know, 2939 02:21:16.600 --> 02:21:19.799 Satan being held in the bottomless pit for a thousand years, 2940 02:21:19.840 --> 02:21:24.319 and so I think there's potentially different different realms below, 2941 02:21:24.760 --> 02:21:28.440 you know, and whether that you've got to be vibrating 2942 02:21:28.559 --> 02:21:31.520 or you know, resonating at lower frequencies to go down 2943 02:21:31.559 --> 02:21:35.840 there or what. I definitely think something is going on 2944 02:21:36.000 --> 02:21:36.920 below our feet for. 2945 02:21:36.879 --> 02:21:40.079 Sure, Okay, okay. 2946 02:21:40.079 --> 02:21:43.280 And the only reason why I ask is because when 2947 02:21:43.440 --> 02:21:46.600 I talked to flat Earthers, half of them believe. 2948 02:21:46.360 --> 02:21:48.399 In some sort of hollow Earth. 2949 02:21:48.399 --> 02:21:52.040 Although they may see it as like Antarctica holds a 2950 02:21:52.079 --> 02:21:55.600 portal that doesn't sing you necessarily into a hollow Earth, 2951 02:21:55.600 --> 02:21:58.959 but to another dimension that some have called the hollow Earth. 2952 02:21:59.319 --> 02:22:01.559 But then there's other or is that fully believe that 2953 02:22:01.760 --> 02:22:05.360 there is an entire ecosystem with a son inside of it, 2954 02:22:05.680 --> 02:22:09.840 very mirror image to our own. And I've heard flat 2955 02:22:09.879 --> 02:22:12.159 Earth's believes something similar to this. So I was just 2956 02:22:12.200 --> 02:22:13.000 curious where you're at. 2957 02:22:13.040 --> 02:22:17.840 Yeah, I really try my best not to speculate. I love, 2958 02:22:17.920 --> 02:22:19.879 you know, it's fun to think about it, but as 2959 02:22:19.879 --> 02:22:23.079 far as giving definitive answers, I can't really do that, 2960 02:22:23.159 --> 02:22:23.440 you know. 2961 02:22:24.280 --> 02:22:28.479 Well, Tyler, you know I I love talking about this 2962 02:22:28.600 --> 02:22:30.559 kind of stuff, and I feel like we could talk forever. 2963 02:22:30.600 --> 02:22:32.879 But I feel like I'm also in the middle of 2964 02:22:33.000 --> 02:22:34.680 dying over here, and so. 2965 02:22:34.760 --> 02:22:36.600 I don't want to keep you. I don't want to 2966 02:22:36.680 --> 02:22:37.399 keep you too long. 2967 02:22:37.479 --> 02:22:40.200 Rather, but you know, just out of curiosity, we talked 2968 02:22:40.239 --> 02:22:41.760 a little bit of the at the beginning of the 2969 02:22:41.799 --> 02:22:46.719 show about how Jacob might be an agent. After talking 2970 02:22:46.719 --> 02:22:49.600 to him here for you know, a few hours, I 2971 02:22:49.639 --> 02:22:52.239 was just curious, you know, what are your thoughts now 2972 02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:53.760 after getting to know him a little bit? 2973 02:22:53.840 --> 02:22:57.000 Is he Are we still talking about double agent? Is he? 2974 02:22:57.479 --> 02:22:57.639 You know? 2975 02:22:58.680 --> 02:23:02.719 Like, is he guiding me in directions that I shouldn't 2976 02:23:02.760 --> 02:23:05.479 be going? Or should I let my third eye guide 2977 02:23:05.479 --> 02:23:07.200 me on this path to truth? 2978 02:23:08.000 --> 02:23:10.040 Well, I got to be true to my nature here 2979 02:23:10.040 --> 02:23:11.799 and I got to you know, just call it how 2980 02:23:11.799 --> 02:23:16.799 I see it. I see uh conspiracy, cult of conspiracy, 2981 02:23:16.840 --> 02:23:19.559 which is CC, which is thirty three. I've seen a 2982 02:23:19.600 --> 02:23:23.600 lot of the uh you know, six six six symbolisms 2983 02:23:23.600 --> 02:23:25.079 that you guys have been thrown up, Like when you're 2984 02:23:25.120 --> 02:23:28.879 touching your glasses. I see the single eyes on the 2985 02:23:29.479 --> 02:23:32.440 heads here, so you know. But like I said, I 2986 02:23:32.479 --> 02:23:35.520 also think everyone's an agent, so you shouldn't take that personally. 2987 02:23:36.000 --> 02:23:38.920 But I am. I think Jacob knows a lot more 2988 02:23:39.159 --> 02:23:42.120 or believes a lot differently than he lets on. And 2989 02:23:42.159 --> 02:23:44.120 like I said, don't take that personally, my friend. I 2990 02:23:44.159 --> 02:23:45.239 think you got a job to do. 2991 02:23:45.360 --> 02:23:49.000 And no, no, no, you just called both of us 2992 02:23:49.000 --> 02:23:50.040 out for our logos. 2993 02:23:50.040 --> 02:23:53.000 So like, hey, we're cool. We equal opportunity up in here. Brother. 2994 02:23:53.520 --> 02:23:56.440 Hey, like I said, I my best friend in my 2995 02:23:57.239 --> 02:24:00.520 in the conspiracy world, I just like called out the 2996 02:24:00.600 --> 02:24:03.120 other day, So I don't I don't hold anything back. 2997 02:24:03.200 --> 02:24:05.319 I suspect it unless I knew you in my life 2998 02:24:05.360 --> 02:24:07.840 before I was a truther. I don't fully trust you, 2999 02:24:07.959 --> 02:24:12.399 so don't take it personally. It's just me not trusting anybody. 3000 02:24:12.440 --> 02:24:14.719 And to be fair, Jacob with the long hair, the 3001 02:24:14.799 --> 02:24:17.840 long beard, he's always wearing flannel, Like what's with that? 3002 02:24:17.959 --> 02:24:18.559 You know what I mean? 3003 02:24:18.680 --> 02:24:21.360 Like somebody has got to change up this fucking style 3004 02:24:21.440 --> 02:24:23.159 from time to time, and it's. 3005 02:24:23.000 --> 02:24:25.680 Like, take those glasses off, maybe I can see what 3006 02:24:25.760 --> 02:24:26.520 celebrity you are. 3007 02:24:26.639 --> 02:24:30.479 He has the lizard eyes. Oh yeah, Ship Brown, his 3008 02:24:30.520 --> 02:24:32.079 eyes are all blinking like this. 3009 02:24:32.040 --> 02:24:33.799 And I'm trying to see you're on the small. 3010 02:24:34.879 --> 02:24:37.040 Yeah. The reason why is because the ring light. 3011 02:24:37.079 --> 02:24:39.280 It's not because I'm trying to hie my ideentity, honestly, 3012 02:24:39.280 --> 02:24:40.479 because I have bitch eyes. 3013 02:24:40.840 --> 02:24:41.520 You know. 3014 02:24:42.200 --> 02:24:44.479 You and Hibbler got like a little thing going. 3015 02:24:44.680 --> 02:24:46.879 Man, I don't know me and Hibbler. 3016 02:24:47.639 --> 02:24:50.360 Well, maybe it's just the beard. 3017 02:24:50.399 --> 02:24:53.479 Tell him tell him next time you see him. I 3018 02:24:53.559 --> 02:24:57.040 hope to god he takes that well. I love him. 3019 02:24:57.079 --> 02:25:01.200 By the way, great a. No, Sean's amazing. 3020 02:25:01.639 --> 02:25:03.159 We've had him on the show a couple of times. 3021 02:25:03.239 --> 02:25:05.559 Fucking awesome guy. He reminds me of He reminds me 3022 02:25:05.600 --> 02:25:08.680 of the wrestler seth Rawlins. That's what I told him. 3023 02:25:09.639 --> 02:25:13.959 He I suspect him as being an amazing like I 3024 02:25:14.000 --> 02:25:18.639 suspect everyone, So I have nothing back. I Hey, I'm 3025 02:25:18.680 --> 02:25:20.479 really good buddies with Dave, and I tell Dave I 3026 02:25:20.520 --> 02:25:23.680 think he is probably double agent all the time too. 3027 02:25:24.159 --> 02:25:26.799 Hi, dude, you got to question everything. That's what we're 3028 02:25:26.879 --> 02:25:27.360 here to do. 3029 02:25:27.559 --> 02:25:29.879 If we're not even looking at ourselves and questioning our 3030 02:25:29.879 --> 02:25:32.120 fucking selves in the mirror, then what are we really doing? 3031 02:25:32.639 --> 02:25:34.719 You know that's really what you should be doing. It's 3032 02:25:34.799 --> 02:25:39.159 questioning everything, question literally everything. So, uh, the Fittest flat 3033 02:25:39.159 --> 02:25:41.360 Earth or Tyler Hanson, thank you so much for coming 3034 02:25:41.399 --> 02:25:44.399 on the show. Brother, if you would, can you tell 3035 02:25:44.440 --> 02:25:46.600 all of our good cult members where they can find you. 3036 02:25:47.319 --> 02:25:48.920 Yeah, and let me just thank you guys too. I 3037 02:25:48.920 --> 02:25:52.440 appreciate it, uh, I honestly hopefully you don't take anything personally. 3038 02:25:52.479 --> 02:25:56.399 Like I said, I call everyone all the time. I'm 3039 02:25:56.440 --> 02:26:01.000 on all the platforms YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. Either the 3040 02:26:01.040 --> 02:26:05.959 Fittest Flat Earther or Fittest flat Earth And consider subscribing 3041 02:26:05.959 --> 02:26:08.440 because I've started to put a lot of my more detailed, 3042 02:26:08.520 --> 02:26:12.000 juicy videos in there because for whatever reason, they don't 3043 02:26:12.000 --> 02:26:14.479 seem to censor them as much. And I was sick 3044 02:26:14.520 --> 02:26:17.479 again the strikes and the community guidelines and things. So 3045 02:26:17.840 --> 02:26:22.559 I started a little subscriber network and consider consider and 3046 02:26:22.559 --> 02:26:24.639 thank you guys. I appreciate you having me on. I've 3047 02:26:24.680 --> 02:26:27.360 been a fan for a while and listening. You guys 3048 02:26:27.360 --> 02:26:28.319 are a great show. 3049 02:26:28.680 --> 02:26:31.079 Thank you man, Thank you so much, and look well, 3050 02:26:31.360 --> 02:26:33.159 we would love to have you back on one day. 3051 02:26:33.239 --> 02:26:35.399 I think you're an awesome dude. I love watching all 3052 02:26:35.399 --> 02:26:40.040 of your content, at least the one on Instagram, I mean. 3053 02:26:40.159 --> 02:26:42.200 And the great thing about you is is that there's 3054 02:26:42.440 --> 02:26:44.360 there's a lot of flat earthers that only hit on 3055 02:26:44.399 --> 02:26:47.399 flat Earth, and you're really out there just questioning everything. 3056 02:26:47.440 --> 02:26:50.120 And that's one, you know, one thing that we love. 3057 02:26:50.239 --> 02:26:52.479 You know, there's not one thing that we hit on 3058 02:26:52.520 --> 02:26:55.280 more than anything else, you know, kind of just you know, 3059 02:26:55.600 --> 02:26:57.600 I mean, if we're questioning everything, why are we only 3060 02:26:57.639 --> 02:26:59.479 questioning one thing kind of thing? So I like the 3061 02:26:59.559 --> 02:27:04.079 idea of really branching out and testing that whole theory everywhere. 3062 02:27:04.360 --> 02:27:05.879 And so I appreciate that you do that. 3063 02:27:06.040 --> 02:27:10.000 And yeah, just keep on keep doing what you're doing, brother, 3064 02:27:10.120 --> 02:27:12.280 and we'll definitely have you back on again soon. 3065 02:27:12.360 --> 02:27:14.799 And also, anybody that wants to be able to find. 3066 02:27:15.159 --> 02:27:17.159 Tyler, we're gonna have all of his links down in 3067 02:27:17.159 --> 02:27:19.200 the show notes below, so if you want to, you know, 3068 02:27:19.280 --> 02:27:22.360 have access to any of his social media's, that'll all 3069 02:27:22.360 --> 02:27:25.239 be down below the quick easy access So. 3070 02:27:26.079 --> 02:27:28.319 While you're down there, while you're down there looking in 3071 02:27:28.399 --> 02:27:31.079 those show notes and looking for the fittest flats earther, 3072 02:27:31.239 --> 02:27:33.840 so you can go follow him and subscribe and following 3073 02:27:33.959 --> 02:27:36.280 all the things over there while you're at it, and 3074 02:27:36.319 --> 02:27:38.440 you got those two thumbs and this is for free. 3075 02:27:38.920 --> 02:27:41.360 Hit the five stars, hit the shares and that like subscribes, 3076 02:27:41.440 --> 02:27:43.440 the comments, leave a post, pleaseer for review, shares with 3077 02:27:43.479 --> 02:27:44.799 their friends and family, shares everywhere. 3078 02:27:44.799 --> 02:27:45.280 Here's the deal. 3079 02:27:45.559 --> 02:27:47.680 The more activity the algorithm see across all of our 3080 02:27:47.719 --> 02:27:50.360 listening platforms, the more we get promoted to more potential 3081 02:27:50.360 --> 02:27:52.479 listeners who could then become potential cult members like. 3082 02:27:52.479 --> 02:27:54.760 The rest of you. 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