1 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: And we're back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. 2 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,839 I'm your guest host, Tristan Justice, and as always, you 3 00:00:23,839 --> 00:00:26,839 can email the show at radio at the Federalist dot com, 4 00:00:27,039 --> 00:00:30,679 follow us on x at FDR LST, make sure to 5 00:00:30,679 --> 00:00:33,600 subscribe wherever you download your podcasts, and of course to 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,719 the premium version of our website as well. I'm joined 7 00:00:36,759 --> 00:00:40,359 today by our GC columnist Eddie Scarry, who graciously agreed 8 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:43,320 to indulge kind of a project I had about a 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,679 month ago. I reached out to Eddie asking if he 10 00:00:45,719 --> 00:00:48,479 would be willing to read a book by a leftist 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,880 author or politician and then take a podcast about it. 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,960 And so, since this was a month ago, we figured 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,520 what better book than the Democratic Party's new presidential nominee 14 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,520 Kamala Harris's The Truths Behold? Eddie, thanks for doing this 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:03,280 and how are you doing. 16 00:01:03,759 --> 00:01:06,159 Speaker 2: I'm doing well, and of course there's nowhere else I'd 17 00:01:06,239 --> 00:01:06,519 rather be. 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,519 Speaker 1: So there's a whole bunch of different topics we can 19 00:01:09,599 --> 00:01:11,519 discuss and get into, but I wanted to start by 20 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:17,560 asking what are your perceptions of Kama Harris now after 21 00:01:17,599 --> 00:01:21,879 you read the book versus before, and how did that change? 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,879 Speaker 2: Well, you know these books are they're all the same. So, 23 00:01:28,079 --> 00:01:30,640 and by all the same, I mean it's a campaign book. 24 00:01:31,159 --> 00:01:37,239 They're basically meant to, you know, misologize the whoever it 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,439 is that's running. Almost always for president is when these 26 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,319 books come out, both Republican and Democrat, it's always, you know, 27 00:01:45,719 --> 00:01:48,599 my humble beginnings and then this is what got me 28 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,319 interested in public service. These were my role models. And 29 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,079 then and then of course you get into what their 30 00:01:55,159 --> 00:02:00,359 actual experience and their adult careers, their public life to 31 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:03,439 the extent that they've been elected to office lower office 32 00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:05,920 than president, and you know, on and on. So they're 33 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,199 all the same, they're not really meant I don't I'm 34 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,039 trying to think of one of these books that I 35 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,280 might have read. I've probably read a handful of them 36 00:02:15,759 --> 00:02:19,000 over the years. The one I remember reading and enjoying 37 00:02:19,879 --> 00:02:25,000 actually was Sarah Palin's book. So that would have been 38 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,800 like what two thousand and nine or something, and I 39 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,439 don't even remember the title, but this was this They 40 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:35,199 came out after after that campaign was over, that two 41 00:02:35,199 --> 00:02:38,120 thousand and eight presidential campaign, and she was the Republican 42 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:41,639 running mate. I remember enjoying that book because she does 43 00:02:41,719 --> 00:02:44,520 have at least the story I found interesting her personal 44 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,000 story about being in Alaska and how she ran for 45 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,639 mayor of I guess it was Wassilla and then became governor, 46 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,560 and really was this kind of it at least seemed 47 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:55,439 to be one of those stories of what they're all 48 00:02:55,439 --> 00:02:58,479 trying to grasp, which is like a person who kind 49 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,080 of just finds themselves interested in politics and wanting to 50 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,360 make a difference. And so I liked that one, But 51 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,439 most of them are like this kambla one pretty harmless. 52 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:14,039 But doll did I I can't say that it changed 53 00:03:14,039 --> 00:03:16,080 my impression. And this one came out in twenty nineteen, 54 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,759 I guess, and the lead up to her to her 55 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,439 way to run for president in the twenty twenty cycle, 56 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:26,000 it didn't change much. There were some moments that I thought, Okay, 57 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,960 I can I think that by the way, she's because 58 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,479 I listened to the book. I did the audio book. 59 00:03:30,479 --> 00:03:32,240 Did you read it like physically text or did you 60 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:32,840 listen to it? 61 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,719 Speaker 1: I did a little bit of both. I really like 62 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:39,919 it when authors will narrate their own audiobook, and especially 63 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,479 if it's a memoir, because memoir is my favorite genre 64 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,800 to read. So I listened to it first on a 65 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,000 twenty hour drive from Colorado to Ohio, so you may 66 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:53,639 cover half the drive. But it was interesting how she 67 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,000 started out with And then of course I read through 68 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,759 the book and took some notes, but I thought it 69 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,719 was really interesting how she started with, this is not 70 00:03:59,759 --> 00:04:01,319 going to policy book. This is just going to be 71 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:03,080 a book about my life, and look at me, I'm 72 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,479 such a genuine, authentic, down to earth person. And then 73 00:04:06,599 --> 00:04:08,800 the whole thing ended up being like a policy book. 74 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,439 I mean it was like every other page it was 75 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:12,599 like and then I proposed this bill to deal with 76 00:04:12,639 --> 00:04:14,479 that issue, and then I did this, did you to 77 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,639 do that? And the whole book was so clearly design 78 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:21,879 by someone who wanted to run for president. 79 00:04:22,639 --> 00:04:24,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And that's again kind of like how 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,120 do all these books go? And even if you know, 81 00:04:27,319 --> 00:04:29,680 even if there is some kind of insure that's like, 82 00:04:29,879 --> 00:04:33,399 I'm not here to run for president via this book. 83 00:04:33,439 --> 00:04:37,360 I just want you to get to know me. Pretty silly. 84 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,319 But I will say that there were some parts that 85 00:04:39,399 --> 00:04:44,199 I could feel her, those those faint flickers of humanity 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,360 coming through. There was like the part where she talks 87 00:04:48,399 --> 00:04:51,000 about when her mom told her that she had cancer. 88 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,759 That was you know, you kind of feel like you're 89 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,040 talking to a real person there, or you're getting you're 90 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,759 getting an inner glimpse of their their inner soul in 91 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:02,759 a way. And then I do think there were there 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,000 were parts where she talked about her career in the 93 00:05:07,079 --> 00:05:11,360 legal area. So not really when she became a senator, 94 00:05:11,399 --> 00:05:13,040 obviously we're going to get to that, and then not 95 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:15,600 now that she's vice president, because this was written before then. 96 00:05:16,399 --> 00:05:18,759 But the parts where she talked about her interest in 97 00:05:19,879 --> 00:05:23,800 the law, the legal profession, I felt like they're actually 98 00:05:23,959 --> 00:05:27,600 to the extent that she actually has interest in public service, 99 00:05:27,759 --> 00:05:30,199 if you want to call it that. I think that 100 00:05:30,199 --> 00:05:33,800 that's where it mostly came through. But back to your interest, 101 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,319 your your original question about did it change my impression? 102 00:05:37,959 --> 00:05:39,360 Not really? Not really. 103 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I did actually skip the part about her mom. 104 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,279 I do this with every book I read. I just 105 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:48,399 every time. I mean, Katie Kirk did this. I read 106 00:05:48,439 --> 00:05:51,319 her book this summer and some others. Every time. In 107 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:53,160 these memoirs they get to like death to Parents, I 108 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,319 just I have to just past forward and I either 109 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,120 skip the rest of the chapter or I just hit 110 00:05:57,519 --> 00:06:02,319 board the fifteen seconds on spot I thought, but no, 111 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,600 we definitely have to talk about her early resume experience, 112 00:06:05,639 --> 00:06:09,680 because after the Washington Freebeacon reported last week that she 113 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,160 apparently had been making up for her experience at McDonald's, 114 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,600 I actually went through the book to see if I 115 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,040 can find it myself, and she hasn't talked anywhere about 116 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:21,759 working the drive through the friar as a customer service 117 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:26,360 rep at McDonald's. And you would think for a California 118 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,319 leftist senator who is chasing socialist votes, she would make 119 00:06:31,399 --> 00:06:35,680 having worked at McDonald's a centerpiece of every single campaign 120 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,000 she had run since district attorney, and that was nowhere 121 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:39,759 to be found in there. 122 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, if you look back, actually, and I'm not 123 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,639 going to pretend I'm some like hard student of Kamala 124 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,800 Harris's career, she kind of I remember when she was 125 00:06:50,079 --> 00:06:53,920 endorsed by Obama for I guess for I think for 126 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,839 both ag attorney general in California and then eventually the 127 00:06:58,879 --> 00:07:01,560 Senate a long time ago. Now at this point, I 128 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,680 don't know if you remember this, but he he called 129 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,680 her in public like the most attractive attorney general that 130 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,839 we have. It was like this big controversy that a 131 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,240 man called, you know, called would dare to like comment 132 00:07:14,319 --> 00:07:16,079 on her looks, and then like this was a whole 133 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,560 news cycle and then it even like the White House 134 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,000 even ended up having to say President Obama he actually 135 00:07:22,079 --> 00:07:27,240 personally called Kamala to apologize to her for what he said. 136 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,839 It's just kind of kind of a ridiculous controversy that 137 00:07:29,879 --> 00:07:32,120 he actually called her attractive, and that's supposed to be, 138 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:38,399 you know, some scandal, but the McDonald's thing. So I know, 139 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:41,279 we were talking about this just among ourselves with the Federalists, 140 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,199 and whether it's true, it wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't 141 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:47,399 surprise me that she made this up. I mean Democrats, 142 00:07:47,439 --> 00:07:49,600 they just seem to make stuff up's And she's working 143 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,040 right under Joe Biden, who literally will just say anything 144 00:07:55,519 --> 00:07:57,399 to whoever he's in front of it. You know, he'll 145 00:07:57,399 --> 00:07:59,879 be in front of Irish people, he says he's Irish 146 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,639 and they used to call him Obiden. He's in front 147 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,759 of like Italians and he'll swear that his family was 148 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,800 the mafia. Like he will say anything to anybody. So 149 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:12,560 maybe that's where she's picked. And you know, now we 150 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,279 have Tim Wallas, her running mate, who's he lied about 151 00:08:15,319 --> 00:08:19,319 you know, extensively lied about his military record and other things. 152 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,480 And now we now know that he lied about claiming 153 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,360 that his family used the IVF procedure when in fact 154 00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:29,519 he did not. So you know, there's this whole lying thing. 155 00:08:29,639 --> 00:08:32,919 But you know that the McDonald's stuff is I would 156 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:37,679 say kind kind of beside the point, but I also 157 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,639 would say it to the extent that I think, okay, 158 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,720 that's a problem. In her book, she makes herself seem 159 00:08:45,799 --> 00:08:48,480 like she has as often these these books do her 160 00:08:48,639 --> 00:08:51,559 for the authors of them, makes herself seem like she's 161 00:08:51,639 --> 00:08:55,200 from this humble background they refer in the campaign. It's 162 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,759 about how she's all middle class. I mean, I don't 163 00:08:57,799 --> 00:09:00,879 know if people have different ideas about what the middle 164 00:09:00,919 --> 00:09:04,360 class is, what the working class is. But her mom 165 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:10,600 was this prestigious biologist. Her dad was a tenured professor 166 00:09:10,639 --> 00:09:14,240 at Stanford. She talked about how she how she went 167 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:18,799 to a uh performing arts school. I'm like, is this 168 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,600 what people think of when they say that they've got 169 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,919 these humble beginnings in the middle class and or or 170 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,000 from the working class, because that that certainly wasn't my 171 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,039 experience growing up. And I say, we basically went from 172 00:09:32,039 --> 00:09:35,799 working class to middle class via my parents and their 173 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:40,600 you know, their professional lives. But I certainly wasn't going 174 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,240 to you know, performing arts schools. They weren't. They weren't 175 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:50,720 these impressive scholars at top notch universities. So you know, 176 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:53,279 for her to like kind of revise her history and 177 00:09:53,279 --> 00:09:56,120 say I worked out a McDonald's and that's that's that's 178 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,720 more evidence of just how working class am. I mean, 179 00:09:59,159 --> 00:10:02,559 if it's a lie, it just goes even further to 180 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,759 the fact that she's portraying herself as something that she 181 00:10:04,919 --> 00:10:07,120 is not not at all. 182 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,519 Speaker 1: Well, when you read the book, it sounds it sounds 183 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,840 she made in her book. She sounds she tried to 184 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,039 make her sound like she had come up from you know, 185 00:10:15,159 --> 00:10:18,639 poor background and a working class and that's of course 186 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:21,200 you just laid out her parents were prestige of professors 187 00:10:21,279 --> 00:10:24,399 and had good jobs. But I mean, her book makes 188 00:10:24,399 --> 00:10:26,799 her sound to seem like you said something that she's not. 189 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,879 And I thought it was a very clear contrast to 190 00:10:29,639 --> 00:10:33,000 the book from JD. Vance, which I also read this summer, 191 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,279 where it almost had nothing to do with policy, and 192 00:10:37,399 --> 00:10:39,799 I felt like that book was so much more authentic 193 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,600 and genuine because It was written by someone who probably 194 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:45,360 didn't know they were going to run for office. I mean, 195 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,600 maybe he did, maybe he was plotting house to card style, 196 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:50,120 but I don't think he'll Billy Elogy was written by 197 00:10:50,159 --> 00:10:52,840 someone who thought they were going to be president someday. 198 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: I thought it was just a. 199 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: Venture capitalist writing about growing up in Appalachia, and I 200 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,440 really felt like a lot more of his character came 201 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,440 out of the book, whereas this one, it was definitely 202 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,399 a political memoir design for someone who want who wanted 203 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:09,240 to be president, and and doing that, she tried to 204 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,120 make hersel to be some poor girl in Oakland who 205 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,559 had rose over the odds to become district attorney and 206 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,679 then attorney general and then and then so on. 207 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that, and I think I'm sure 208 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,320 that Jadevans, I mean, it looks like he's kind of 209 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,840 his whole life had ambitions for something, just you know. 210 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,279 And I don't know how far in advance he was 211 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,679 thinking about what his trajectory would be. But I think 212 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:39,039 that even though he's been an ambitious person, I would agree. 213 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,600 I haven't read the book, I watched the movie, and 214 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,919 everything I've heard about the book he'llbili elegy. That sounds 215 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,480 about right that he was. He was probably more so 216 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,279 interested in bringing a story to a national audience and 217 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,679 bringing like a real story that hasn't been told. And 218 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,960 that really does make the difference in these types of 219 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,080 or when you have political figures or people who would 220 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,159 eventually become political figures writing these books, you can tell 221 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,000 whether they whether they care about you know what it 222 00:12:08,039 --> 00:12:10,120 is that they do they really care that she did 223 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,799 Kamala Harris really want to write a book and bring 224 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,799 people into her life and show who Kamala Harris is. 225 00:12:15,879 --> 00:12:19,039 I would not have got that from this book at all. 226 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,559 But again that's not I don't that's the not the 227 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,960 purpose of a book like this, and she's not alone 228 00:12:25,039 --> 00:12:27,799 in this this genre of book where that would be 229 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,480 the case. Again, I think I just going through it 230 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,559 heard like just flickers, and I just keep saying heard 231 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,519 because I listened to the audiobook, I heard like the 232 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,120 flickers of humanity, the things that really touched her, the 233 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,200 things that were really deeply personal to her life, and 234 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,720 it was very few and far between. Like you said, 235 00:12:47,639 --> 00:12:49,879 she said it wasn't a policy book, but it's it's 236 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,519 a There was a lot of this stuff in this book. 237 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,519 That's number cramming, just cramming in these numbers to make 238 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,919 a point about, you know, all the things that government 239 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,559 should be doing to fix these problems. And oftentimes she's 240 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:10,279 she's pointing out real problems, but she's misdiagnosing them. And 241 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,919 definitely the proposal she had where you know, the whole thing. 242 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,480 We make fun of this a lot only because we're 243 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:18,919 so like shocks by it, just the media now that 244 00:13:19,039 --> 00:13:22,240 now that she's the Democrat nominee, the way she's able 245 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,279 to just act like she didn't have any of these positions, 246 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,559 they're right there in her book. They're right there in 247 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,039 her book from what from twenty nineteen that was not 248 00:13:29,159 --> 00:13:31,399 that long ago. They're right there in her book where 249 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,159 she's saying like I want to give, like take the 250 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,399 issue and she's talking about it, it's always money. It's 251 00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:38,559 always you know, I want to give a tax for 252 00:13:38,879 --> 00:13:40,559 and you know, I don't know about you. I would 253 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,320 think this probably applies to you, But not a single 254 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,200 one of these things is intended to help someone like me. 255 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,320 It's in fact, intended to take away money from someone 256 00:13:49,399 --> 00:13:53,360 like me and give it to somebody else. So you know, 257 00:13:53,519 --> 00:13:56,600 they try to say now that well, she's changed her positions, 258 00:13:56,639 --> 00:13:58,720 and you know, the Republicans are trying to paint her 259 00:13:58,759 --> 00:14:01,960 as this left wing radical. It's like it's in her book. 260 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,279 Did anybody read her book? 261 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,639 Speaker 3: Would Kamala's proposed raised and corporate tax affect you the consumer? 262 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,519 The watch Dout on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 263 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,399 Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and 264 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,879 the economy and how it affects your wallet. Kamala is 265 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:21,919 proposing raising corporate tax rates from twenty one to twenty 266 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,440 eight percent. Corporations are the ones selling stuff and providing services. 267 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,159 By raising taxes, they raise the prices on things that 268 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,320 they sell to you. Whether it's happening in DC or 269 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,279 down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. 270 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:32,879 Speaker 2: Be informed. 271 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,799 Speaker 3: Check out the watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with 272 00:14:34,919 --> 00:14:39,240 Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 273 00:14:40,799 --> 00:14:43,399 Speaker 1: I do think well on Jadie Vance's book. He wrote 274 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,960 that book and it was published in twenty sixteen. People 275 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,840 wanted him to run for Senate in twenty eighteen. He 276 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,559 actually passed on that, and of course he didn't. He 277 00:14:49,559 --> 00:14:54,360 didn't run until recently in twenty two for the Senate seat. 278 00:14:54,399 --> 00:14:56,879 But I thought Harris the only personal parts of the 279 00:14:56,879 --> 00:14:59,399 book that came through where she's kind of seemed like 280 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:01,360 a normal person. When she was talking about her family. 281 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,639 I really liked when she was talking about her kind 282 00:15:03,639 --> 00:15:05,720 of marriage story with Doug Gamoff. I thought that was 283 00:15:05,759 --> 00:15:09,679 actually really well done. But when it comes to policy's 284 00:15:10,159 --> 00:15:12,919 she's been flipping her position on just everything she believed 285 00:15:12,919 --> 00:15:15,799 in from five years ago this summer, and I think 286 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,440 immigration is a perfect example of that. She has a 287 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,639 whole page and a half in this book trashing Donald 288 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:26,080 Trump's border wall, and then she comes out like two 289 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,720 weeks ago talking about how actually know she's for boarder 290 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:31,799 wall funding. And so if you know, if you have 291 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,480 a candidate who is not going to put out a 292 00:15:34,519 --> 00:15:40,000 comprehensive policy platform, what better place to look than their 293 00:15:40,039 --> 00:15:45,200 own policy memoir published just five years ago. And of 294 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,480 course there's there's proposals in here that are just straight 295 00:15:49,519 --> 00:15:53,000 up socialist. But on immigration especially, it's night and day. 296 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,480 I mean, she's talking about the wall being immoral, She's 297 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:59,360 talking about it contradicting this narrative of the United States 298 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,000 being a nation immigrants she's talking about the symbolism of it, 299 00:16:02,039 --> 00:16:04,919 she's talking about the money of it. And of course 300 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,240 now she comes out and you know, two months before 301 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,120 an election where the border is the biggest issue, and 302 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,919 just every single public pull out there showing that the 303 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,200 border and the economy are what voters care about most. 304 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:20,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course she does this with great assists 305 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,799 from the national news media, just pretending like none of 306 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,799 her record, not only that none of her record exists, 307 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,600 as as you know, when she ran for president, the 308 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,559 way she voted in the Senate, the things she said 309 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:35,879 while she was in the Senate, the things she said 310 00:16:35,879 --> 00:16:39,320 while she was running as Joe Biden's running mate, but 311 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:43,039 the things that happened while she was in office, which 312 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,159 she currently is still in office. It's like, it's as 313 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,200 if none of this is happening, none of it exists. 314 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,440 There's nothing to across reference, you can't there's no way 315 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,200 to compare what she says now to what she said 316 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,799 just even two months ago. It's really something to see. 317 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,279 But again, I think, and we actually just saw last night, 318 00:17:05,279 --> 00:17:07,440 because that's when as we're recording this, that's when the 319 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,720 CNN interview, her first actual national televised interview as the 320 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,839 Democrat nominee came out. It really is I think I 321 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:20,160 think there's a strategy here. I think that is it 322 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,319 is to have it both ways, so that whatever you 323 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,680 see at any given time, you're not really sure where 324 00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:31,559 she stands, because you'll have news reports that report in 325 00:17:31,559 --> 00:17:36,920 earnest without any kind of context of the shifting positions. 326 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,960 You'll have them these were news reports, say from her 327 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,000 anonymous campaign aids she actually does want to close the border. 328 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,240 She actually is the first thing she wants to do 329 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,680 is battle inflation, you know, on and on, and then 330 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,160 you'll have her come on CNN and say, I haven't 331 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,960 changed anything about my values. Nothing has changed. And so 332 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,880 I think that, you know, voters are just kind of left, like, well, 333 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,920 I don't really know which to believe, but I'm being 334 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:10,920 told by the media at least that she's a moderate. 335 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,559 There's this is not some radical person. When I see 336 00:18:14,599 --> 00:18:18,359 her on TV, she seems, you know, like a nice person. 337 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,559 So I don't feel weird if I want to go 338 00:18:21,559 --> 00:18:23,440 ahead and vote for her, because I don't really care 339 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,960 for Donald Trump, you know. So I actually find there 340 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,440 to be a strategy there, and again with great assists 341 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,720 from the media who acts like nobody can actually they 342 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,319 act like they themselves have no capacity or ability to 343 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,680 go back and check the things that she said before 344 00:18:40,759 --> 00:18:41,799 starting with this. 345 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: Book, right, and well, she's she's in the media is 346 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,559 letting her do this, But she's trying to run as 347 00:18:47,599 --> 00:18:50,799 the change candidate. She's running as the change candidate who's 348 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,640 party in office. I think she's what has she been 349 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,240 doing for the past four years other than getting threados 350 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,519 at gas stations? But I want to read. I want 351 00:18:59,559 --> 00:19:02,880 to read part from this book on when she's talking 352 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:07,440 about the border wall. She's talking about the bill, the 353 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,799 pudget bill in twenty eighteen that was a compromise to 354 00:19:09,839 --> 00:19:12,920 give Republicans funding for the border wall in exchange for 355 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,640 a pass citizenship for Dreamers. And so she writes about 356 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,000 why she opposed the compromise, and she calls the border 357 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:25,240 wall quote a useless wall on the southern border would 358 00:19:25,279 --> 00:19:28,359 be nothing more than a symbol, a monument, standing in 359 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,640 opposition to not just everything I value, but to the 360 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,680 fundamental values upon which this country was built. And then 361 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,519 she goes on to say, at the end of this paragraph, 362 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:40,680 how could I vote to build what would be little 363 00:19:40,759 --> 00:19:43,640 more than a monument designed to send the cold, hard 364 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:50,480 message keep out, so voters probably have. It's the one 365 00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:54,839 that somebity voters have whiplash now because now again, five 366 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,400 years later, she comes out and endorses border wall funding 367 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,880 for a larger compromise buil ill. And of course she 368 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,680 didn't even do it herself. She'd do it from a 369 00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:06,279 campaign aid, which seems to be just about all her 370 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:11,119 latest policy positions have been coming through spokesmen or campaign aids, 371 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,920 and they're not even coming from her herself. 372 00:20:14,599 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. And not only that, but it wasn't even I 373 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,880 want to say it was maybe last year. It might 374 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,880 have even been as far back as twenty twenty two, 375 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,279 because like you just quoted from the book where she 376 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,279 said this was the wall would have been a monument 377 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,759 to tell people to keep out. There was the famous 378 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,400 quote of her as the borders are, which they again 379 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,160 now deny that she ever was, where she said, don't come, 380 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:42,640 don't come. Okay, So yeah, now we're shifting from the book. 381 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,759 Now we're also pretending that actually neither the book happened, 382 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,160 nor has she been in office. You know, And I 383 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,160 think if you watched the interview last night on CNN, 384 00:20:55,799 --> 00:20:58,440 you really can tell that this is someone who she 385 00:20:58,519 --> 00:21:00,720 doesn't know what she's supposed to say any given moment, 386 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,799 and she's not helped by the fact that she has 387 00:21:03,839 --> 00:21:08,759 said everything since she's been on the national scene, since 388 00:21:08,759 --> 00:21:10,680 she became since she was elected to the Senate, and 389 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,279 I guess that was the twenty sixteen, so at the 390 00:21:12,319 --> 00:21:15,599 same time that Trump was elected. You know, she has 391 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,559 had so many positions and has a record of saying 392 00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:21,559 so many different things that in the moment, she's not 393 00:21:21,599 --> 00:21:23,680 sure exactly what to say. You can even see on 394 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,319 her face that she looks pain, like she's in pain 395 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,880 and she's struggling to figure out what it is she 396 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,119 wants to say. So a lot of this is really 397 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,480 her own doing. And I do think I don't have 398 00:21:34,599 --> 00:21:37,359 high hope for the media or anything. But the more 399 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,039 that we see of her, and this is what they're 400 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:41,759 worried about. But the more we see of her and 401 00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:44,519 we actually see her challenge on this stuff, the worse 402 00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:46,400 it's going to get for her. 403 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: Oh, she was clearly so uncomfortable in the interview with 404 00:21:50,319 --> 00:21:54,079 Dana Bash and Tim. Tim Walls is just sitting next 405 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,920 to her, looking even more uncomfortable as he's watching her 406 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,440 get these answers, and it kind of it kind of 407 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,920 came to mind that meme from the Office where Michael 408 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,279 Scott is talking about how sometimes I'll just start a 409 00:22:06,319 --> 00:22:08,200 sentence and I don't really even know where it's going. 410 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,200 I just keep talking. And that's exactly what happens with 411 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:14,599 Kamala Harris. And I especially love the part where she's 412 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,359 asked about Israel and she goes and you can it's 413 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,599 just a deer in headlights, and she goes, I am 414 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:26,599 absolutely committed to defending Israel and the right for Israel 415 00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:31,839 to have defense. Just complete, complete circles. 416 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,599 Speaker 2: Well, you know, real quick, I actually believe she has this. 417 00:22:36,079 --> 00:22:40,680 She has this uncanny ability to set herself up to 418 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:43,559 look stupid. So and I'm not I don't mean that 419 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,359 she like low iq or like a stupid person, because 420 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,359 I don't think she is. I think she's just not 421 00:22:50,599 --> 00:22:53,759 very savvy and not very good at navigating, you know, 422 00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:57,720 being in the public eye, that kind of thing. And 423 00:22:57,799 --> 00:23:00,599 you know, one of those moments in the book, I 424 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,799 know I mentioned to you while we were both kind 425 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:05,519 of going through it was she was it is the 426 00:23:06,279 --> 00:23:07,880 one of the chapters or one of the sections on 427 00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:11,640 immigration and she's talking and you know, you remember the 428 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,960 Trump year is just the hysteria over anything that the administration, 429 00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:22,079 that Trump administration tried to do to manage to say 430 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,559 nothing of stop and halt the flow of destitute migrants, 431 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:29,519 millions and millions of them coming from South America, Central America, 432 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,920 anything that did. It was just the reaction from the 433 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,319 news media and from Democrats, just hands in hand, just 434 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:42,240 hair on fire. You can't do that. You're separating, you're 435 00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:45,839 separating families, you're putting kids in cages. You know, all 436 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,240 just lies and lies and lies. But there was this 437 00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:52,880 one particular moment where she recalled and this is this 438 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,559 is meant to make her look very concerned and like 439 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,240 someone who's really taking initiative as a center on this issue. 440 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,480 She she wants to know, I think it was she says, 441 00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:08,920 she wants to know what's happening to make to ensure 442 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:14,359 that children are not being like indefinitely separated from their parents. 443 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,759 And just like just to remind listeners, it is it 444 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:21,720 is a crime to cross the border, just like any crime. 445 00:24:21,799 --> 00:24:24,960 When they when they instituted the when was Jeff Sessions 446 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,200 instituted in no tolerance policy. When you commit a crime, 447 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,759 you go to jail, your kids cannot go to jail 448 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,079 with you. That is that that is true for Americans here, 449 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,039 that is going to be true for anyone who violates 450 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:37,160 the law and comes across the border. So what they 451 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,880 were doing is taking the parents to jail and then 452 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,559 so they could process them for the crime, and the 453 00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:45,759 kids have to go somewhere else. She says, she wants 454 00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:48,960 to know what's going what is the administration doing to 455 00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:52,160 make sure that kids are not being separated from their parents, 456 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,279 and definitely so where they're getting lost in the system. 457 00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:57,880 And she says, so I called General Kelly, who is 458 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,359 the Department of Homeland Security secretary, I believe at the time. 459 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,200 I called him, demanding to know and he's and she's 460 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,400 this is in her book, she's relaying this story that 461 00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:12,440 because this like apparently happened at night. He says to her, 462 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,640 why are you calling me at home about this? And 463 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,200 you just have to think in your mind, like yeah, 464 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,200 like I mean, you are a senator, but directly call 465 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,640 the secret a cabinet secretary with your questions about a 466 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,640 policy issue while he's at home, Like what are you thinking? 467 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,359 What were you thinking? But clearly she thought this was 468 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,359 going to make her look really strong and taking initiative 469 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,759 and concerned, when in fact, it just made you. You 470 00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:41,400 see this, if you imagine that scene in your head, 471 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,720 you're like, what were you thinking when you did that? 472 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: It sounded like she was calling him like super late too, 473 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,440 Like I don't think the Secretary of Homeland Security, who 474 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,000 deals with national security would be offended by a city 475 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,440 US senator calling them at six seven, eight o'clock at night. 476 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,000 But I do think that would be the response to 477 00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:05,920 come if it was like midnight, right, And she writes, 478 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,720 and she and she mocks it. She says that was 479 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,000 his chief concern. And of course I just wonder what 480 00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:13,880 time that call actually came. But since we were talking 481 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,480 about the word salids that come from her all all 482 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:17,960 the time, I love that the word salads actually made 483 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,720 it into this book some of her most famous lines. 484 00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:22,640 I mean, I was in disbelief when I was listening 485 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,720 to the audiobook and think, wait, she said that a 486 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:28,920 thousand times since then, and I just have one prominent 487 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,359 example of it, she writes towards the end and the 488 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,559 chapter on what I've learned, she writes, the innovation is 489 00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:38,039 the pursuit of what can be unburdened by what has been. 490 00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:42,279 And I don't even know what that means, and I 491 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,480 don't think she even knows what that means, but somehow 492 00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:46,519 it made it into this book. 493 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's been saying that forever, and I mean, 494 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,160 I guess, to be generous. It sounds like she's saying 495 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,160 but it is like it is kind of a silly phrase, 496 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,000 because I get again, to be generous, I assume what 497 00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:05,440 she means is there are new things that are kind 498 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,319 of untethered to any kind of problems or anything that 499 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:13,839 prohibited progress or advancement. But it also it just sounds 500 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,720 super clunky. But the fact that she keeps using it 501 00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:19,359 despite everyone making fun of it and no one really 502 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,920 knowing exactly what she means, shows that she thinks that's 503 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,319 a real banger. And it goes kind of to my 504 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,880 previous point that I was just making about how she 505 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,920 has this tendency to set herself up to look very 506 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,720 stupid and not even realize it. 507 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: It's like she's trying to sound like a philosopher who 508 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,559 is super intelligent, who I think someone mocked her. She 509 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,240 sounds like the person giving a book report on the 510 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,240 book that she didn't actually read. Oh yeah, And I 511 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,640 think that's such an apt analogy, and that's really how 512 00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:53,519 just about the whole book read. 513 00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:57,279 Speaker 2: Hey, real quick, real quick, because I was looking at 514 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,880 I'm looking at my notes on just things that I 515 00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:01,880 wrote down that I really wanted to touch on. One 516 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:08,680 was that she keeps saying LATINX or is that how 517 00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:11,920 she keeps pronouncing it. She was pronouncing it in a way. No, 518 00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:16,279 she was saying it LATINX LATINX, So you know, that's 519 00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:19,960 the instead of saying Latino that the liberals and Democrats 520 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,440 and left wingers they came up with the Latin X 521 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,240 at the end of it, and that's supposed to be 522 00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:28,440 more like inclusive and gender neutral, and she keeps saying it, 523 00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:31,559 and it's it's just more cringe because I think everyone 524 00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:35,359 has kind of determined that that was counterproductive and in fact, 525 00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:39,839 like Latino like no Latino, no real Latino actually uses 526 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,799 that to refer to themselves. But she says it over 527 00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:44,319 and over and again in the book, and I just 528 00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:46,480 I thought that was kind of remarkable. And then one 529 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,680 more thing that I that I made sure to write 530 00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:52,279 kind of like an extensive note about she talked about 531 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:54,079 when she was an intern. This is while she was 532 00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:58,240 an undergrad at Howard University here in DC, and she 533 00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:01,039 was an intern at the Federal Trade commit And she 534 00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:06,200 says that her job was her job was like doing clips, 535 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,359 which that's a common intern job where you basically have 536 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,319 to go through newspapers. At the time, it would have 537 00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:15,720 been newspapers, probably not the Internet. Go through newspapers and 538 00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,640 anything that would be of interest of your superior as 539 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,400 your bosses. You're clipping those articles so that they and 540 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,319 you give them like a folder each day so that 541 00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:25,160 they can read and see what are the what is 542 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,319 the media coverage like about what they're doing. So she 543 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,759 has this this little job as an intern. Nothing wrong 544 00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:34,680 with that at the FTC. But this the reason I 545 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,880 bring this up is because this you know, there's a 546 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,680 this idea that she's a dei higher for the Biden administration, 547 00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:45,039 which she in fact was, because you know, it was 548 00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:47,839 it was explicitly stated that she would that Biden want 549 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,640 to hire woman so that narrows down the field based 550 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,200 on gender. Then in the year of George Floyd, it 551 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,279 was definitely going to be a black woman. And I 552 00:29:55,279 --> 00:30:01,519 think even James Clyburn in South Caro line of lobbied 553 00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:03,960 for the like pressure that there be that the woman 554 00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:08,599 running might be black. She says how as the intern 555 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,480 doing these clippings, there were there were superiors to her 556 00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:16,000 that were saying, I'm so proud to see like a 557 00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:19,880 woman of color here, as you know, and someone who's 558 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,079 interested in public service and that, and that was like 559 00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:25,559 the shining moment for her. But you know, I look, 560 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,920 I read that or listened to that, and I thought, 561 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,240 this is the typical Dei trajectory, though, which is someone 562 00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:37,240 who's doing the like bare minimum, the same thing that 563 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,559 anybody would be expected to do in a normal job, 564 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:45,000 but being like harolded because they're black, because they're a woman, 565 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,079 minority whatever. It's like, well, you're special because you're doing 566 00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:53,279 this bare minimum job. And I just the fact that 567 00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:56,839 she included that clearly meant it. It resonated with her. 568 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,359 She thought that it would resonate with others, and just 569 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,400 to me, I thought, yeah, you to take offense at 570 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,759 being called a Dei person. This is exactly where it starts, 571 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,960 this kind of episode where you suddenly start thinking that 572 00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:11,920 you're exceptional and special because of your identity. 573 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,279 Speaker 1: Right the identity. I mean I knew that going into 574 00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:17,160 this book that the identity politics was going to be 575 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,519 off the charts. I mean, she was the DEI candidate 576 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,480 in twenty twenty explicitly so like you just said, but 577 00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:28,079 also she was the I mean, Democrats cannot have picked 578 00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:32,720 a more emblematic candidate of their obsession with identity politics 579 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,960 than Kamala Harris. I mean, that was Elaine Charanan and 580 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,880 twenty nineteen and twenty twenty, and of course that's Lane, 581 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,759 that's Slaine. Of course she ran for vice president and 582 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:46,359 that's what she has now. But in her book she 583 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,279 kind of elludes to the facting she keeps talking about 584 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:51,000 her blended family and the DNC kept talking about her 585 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,400 blended family, and like no one really cares. Frankly, that's 586 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,920 the whole that's kind of the whole point. And this 587 00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:03,839 kind of assumption that people in America today are offended 588 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:09,799 by interracial couple with an interracial family is I mean 589 00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:13,720 that to me, the accusation alone is so offensive, This 590 00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:17,599 assumption that she has to justify having I don't know 591 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,599 a single Republican conservative whatever that would be offended by 592 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,079 a quote blended family. Now, and of course she places 593 00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:28,519 this card throughout the entire book. Oh you know, look 594 00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:31,039 at our blended family, blended family, blunded family. Of course, 595 00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:33,440 it was like a major theme of the DNC but 596 00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:36,640 no one. But here's the thing with Democrats. They need 597 00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:40,559 racism and homophobia and sexism to exist on the level 598 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,599 that they claim it does, because that's what they've been 599 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,319 running on for the past ten twenty years. They need 600 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,000 racism to exist at such a level that they can 601 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,359 campaign against it, because otherwise they don't really have a 602 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,519 ton of things to campaign on. I mean, Kamala Harrish, 603 00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:56,480 she can't campaign on the border, and she can't she 604 00:32:56,519 --> 00:33:00,400 certainly can't run on the economy. So he's going to 605 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,000 run on abortion and identity politics. 606 00:33:03,559 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the division that it really causes is just 607 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,960 it's something that everyone should be depressed about and lament 608 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:16,759 because it's a lie starting or I would say, first 609 00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:20,119 and foremost, Yeah, with the lie that police are just 610 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,359 indiscriminately gunning down black people, harmless, innocent black people for 611 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:30,599 no reason that literally, like statistically speaking, never happens. And 612 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,960 on top of that, what I have always taken a 613 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,759 particular interest in when it comes to the whole racism 614 00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:42,000 lie is how everything they say about race relations geographically 615 00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:46,279 in this country, it's the exact opposite. I am from 616 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,559 the working class South South Carolina, Charleston, near Charleston, that's 617 00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:53,200 where I grew up. I can tell you we don't. 618 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,519 And that's where you have in the South. It's like 619 00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:57,720 around thirty I guess, so thirteen percent or so of 620 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:03,119 the population nationally is black. Thirty percent of the population 621 00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:06,240 in the South is black, So that's where they're mostly concentrated. 622 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,000 I can tell you that everything they say about you know, 623 00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:13,639 you'd swear that the clan still runs like the entire 624 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,920 like it's still like Dixie Land or something, and it 625 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,639 is just not true. We never it's never talked about. 626 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,519 Nobody mentions it. You go, like the people who go 627 00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:27,320 to work, they're working with all sorts of it's completely 628 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,599 diverse people, the kids at school, completely diverse. Growing up 629 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:34,760 almost yeah, I would say almost all my friends growing 630 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,079 up were black. It's just not something that's talked about now. 631 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,239 In places like where Kamma is from in California and 632 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,719 places like where Hillary Clinton loves to live in New York, 633 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,599 those places, yes, you encounter real racism from white liberals 634 00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:51,760 who do not want black people living in their neighborhoods, 635 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,559 don't want them going to their kids' schools. So the 636 00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:59,719 whole thing is just this wild projection where in the 637 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,400 same thing, I would say, the same thing in Washington, 638 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,480 d C. It's just this wild projection of you know, 639 00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:08,760 where we live, that stuff happens, so we assume that 640 00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:11,800 where everyone else is it's the same thing, and when 641 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,679 in fact it's the complete opposite. The working class, the 642 00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,840 middle class in the South and in Middle America doesn't 643 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,760 have doesn't spend a second thinking about blended families and 644 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,519 Kamala Harris's you know, what's her ethnic background, like nobody cares. 645 00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:30,000 What they care about is are you an honest person? 646 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,119 Do you Are you a hard working person? Are you 647 00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:36,360 someone who gets ahead on merit? Instead, it's like you're 648 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,079 not even you're not even supposed to despite liberals say 649 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,159 we need to have we need to have these DEI 650 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,239 and diversity initiatives, all that equity initiatives. But if you 651 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,280 point it out, if you point out that someone like 652 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,639 Kamala Harris has advanced on those things, well now you're 653 00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:59,079 the bigot. It's just it's so mindwarping what they get 654 00:35:59,079 --> 00:35:59,679 away with. 655 00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:02,599 Speaker 1: Right, And it's just we're talking about Danny politics. We 656 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,760 probably have to discuss Donald Trump's comment this summer in 657 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,480 July when he kind of went after her authenticity when 658 00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:13,199 he said, oh, I didn't know if she was black, 659 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,639 she just kind of became black. Well, that's what actually 660 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,000 leftists was saying in the presidential primary of four years ago. 661 00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:22,079 And I think that's what Trump was alluding to, just 662 00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:25,119 kind of in a typical Trump fashion with not most careful, 663 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,199 careful wording. But I actually thought it was an interesting 664 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,239 kind of political point that he was making in that 665 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,840 Kamala Harris never took off in the twenty twenty Democrat 666 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,039 primary with black voters, even though she was the most 667 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:42,719 prominent black candidate in the race, she never took off 668 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,239 with African American voters in that race because and this 669 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,000 is what leftists were saying in the Washington Post. By 670 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,519 the way, this is not you know, the Federalist or 671 00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:56,880 the Daily Caller or some conservative media narrative that legacy 672 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,679 media was trying to cover up. No, this is from 673 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:04,440 the Washington Post. You had African American activists complaining that 674 00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:10,079 Kamala Harris is Jamaican, an Indian, not African American, and 675 00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:13,840 so that distinction doesn't matter to you know, the white 676 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,400 woke liberals who were righteously outraged by Donald Trump being 677 00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:21,360 so called racist again in July, those people who already 678 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,880 can vote against Trump anyway. But I think it was 679 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,960 very kind of interesting how the Democrats played up those 680 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,960 comments so much and made them so viral that they 681 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,960 actually played to their own base, which is black voters. 682 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,480 And again, while that distinction being Indian Jamaican as opposed 683 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,960 to African American doesn't matter to white woke liberals, it 684 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,320 apparently matters to African Americans who say that she didn't 685 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,719 share the same black experience in America. You know, Barack Obama, 686 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,079 he broke up with that white girl in college and 687 00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:57,880 then married a black woman and kind of lean into 688 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,840 black culture. Harris didn't really do that, and I think 689 00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:05,719 the electorate kind of reflected that four years ago in 690 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,039 that primary where black voters make up the majority voters 691 00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:13,559 and the Democratic Party, and she married a white, rich 692 00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:18,760 Jew and just kind of lived a different it went 693 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,320 a different path. And so a Trump had these comments 694 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,960 in July, Democrats blew them up but again, the only 695 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,760 people who might actually be influenced by that are probably 696 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,199 the African American voters. 697 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would say this, this kind of takes 698 00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:38,679 us back to the McDonald's point, because if you really, 699 00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:41,519 you know, you mentioned the whole like socialist angle of 700 00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:44,960 at the working class socialist angle policy kind of thing, 701 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,840 I would say it would probably be even more of 702 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,880 an identity thing, racial identity thing. If you were you 703 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,039 were wanted to like, you know, shore up your bona 704 00:38:54,079 --> 00:39:00,239 fides as this humble origins black woman trying to make 705 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,519 it you know, in America, you would say, yeah, I 706 00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:07,400 worked at McDonald's, and I suppose, I mean, she has 707 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,679 always kind of talked about Howard University Historical Black College 708 00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:16,400 here in Washington, d C. But she didn't talk really 709 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,679 much about the McDonald thing. And I think to your point, 710 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:25,559 that whole that whole line from Trump was meant to 711 00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:28,840 just like the birther thing was Obama. It had nothing 712 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,159 to do with really like race, the superficial concept of race. 713 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,039 He was. He was raising it, as you know, to 714 00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:39,320 reinforce the idea that she's just someone who makes things 715 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,719 up depending on what she thinks her what's expedient, politically expedient. 716 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,840 So I went to her authenticity. I did. And as 717 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,159 you just said, him saying black, what he meant was 718 00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:54,199 African American, because there's obviously the difference between Black Americans 719 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,800 who like have roots in like slavery in America versus 720 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,199 you know, a Jamaican or you know someone like like 721 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,119 from from Nigeria or something like that. You know, so 722 00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:07,800 there is there is that distinction that he was not 723 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,920 very careful to make, or if you want to, I don't 724 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,679 know about careful, but he just wasn't very specific about 725 00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,039 it in ways that I think were not super helpful. 726 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,760 But he was also in front of which is this 727 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,360 was the point I was making at the time when 728 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,159 he made that comment. He was in front of the 729 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,880 National Association of Black Journalists NABJ. Always try to like, 730 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,719 remember what the acronym is, and now that sounds like 731 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,280 it's going to be this cross section of black journalists 732 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,360 representing black issues that are important in black communities around 733 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,599 the country. That is not what the Association of Black 734 00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:49,639 Journalists is. That is the typical liberal MSNBC, Washington Post 735 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,519 version of a black person in America, which is like 736 00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:56,920 a Jonathan k part An, April Ryan, just like absolute 737 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:04,239 flaming liberal Democrats, left wing Democrats who they've got the 738 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,880 their their interests have nothing to do with representing black 739 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,880 voters in America. It's literally just feeding into the narratives 740 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,199 of Washington, DC, reinforcing what you see in the New 741 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,119 York Times, reinforcing what you see on MSNBC and CNN. 742 00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:22,119 If you want black journal you would have had Stephen A. 743 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,360 Smith there talking with Donald Trump. That's someone who or 744 00:41:27,639 --> 00:41:29,920 Charlemagne the God who. I mean, we're getting a little 745 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,000 bit loose here, but you would have those are the 746 00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:34,679 two people I would trust to interview Donald Trump in 747 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,039 ways that, you know, pierce through issues that have something 748 00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:41,599 to do with and relate to black voters around the country. Instead, 749 00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:45,239 you had the woman from ABC, you had a couple others. 750 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,679 Had you did have what's her name something, Harris from 751 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,079 from Fox News's who's a fine journalist as well, Harris Fauner, 752 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,360 Harris Faulkner. Yeah, sorry, but you know, otherwise he's speaking 753 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,360 in front of you. Might you could replace that entire 754 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,760 audience with just the m s NBC lineup of primetime. 755 00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:05,280 That's what's going on there. But I think again, going 756 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,800 back to his idea that like his assertion that well, 757 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,159 suddenly she decided to be black. Well okay, yeah, suddenly 758 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,480 she talks about working at McDonald's as well. That's true. 759 00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:17,199 I mean I would say that it's a little bit, 760 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,239 it's not quite. Again, Trump was not very specific. She 761 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,719 has talked about being black. He's just he was trying 762 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,559 to say that she's not this African American and that's 763 00:42:26,599 --> 00:42:30,360 who democrats rely on. Suddenly she's playing up that angle. 764 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,159 You know, they had that I don't know what they 765 00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:35,199 called it. It was the hip hop barbecue or something that 766 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,760 they had at the Vice President's residence that was meant 767 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,360 to shore up black voters, like African American black voters, 768 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,920 of which she is not an African American not, So 769 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,920 she's leaning into that identity, just as you said the same. 770 00:42:48,039 --> 00:42:49,719 I think it's the same thing with the McDonald's thing. 771 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,199 I don't even know if that's a class thing so 772 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,199 much as it is her trying to identify with lower income, 773 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,440 working class black voters. 774 00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 1: Right. But since we're on the identity politics, we've got 775 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,079 to talk about Kavanaugh. The end of this book, where 776 00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:11,599 she talks about the kavanaugh confirmation process is simply amazing 777 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,920 in all the worst ways. And she goes on to 778 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,960 talk about how Christine Bozzi Forward is brave, and how 779 00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:22,840 Brett Kavanaugh was such a disastrous nominee, and how it 780 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,840 was so horrible to have someone with that type of 781 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,719 character being a federal judge, let alone a Supreme Court justice, 782 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,800 and it just again just putting this book in the 783 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,599 context of the time. This was published in twenty nineteen, 784 00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:39,760 so it's a lot closer to those events, but now 785 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,159 that we're just so far removed, and after our boss 786 00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:45,880 balling Himingway published a book on this, it was just 787 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:52,920 so incredible to read over how leftists approached that nomination 788 00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:55,639 again six years removed from it. 789 00:43:56,519 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, that was a pretty phenomenal fortunate because 790 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,800 it was basically at the very end, right or the 791 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,679 tail end of the book. 792 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was like the last. 793 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,639 Speaker 2: Topic she touched on, right, which was such a such 794 00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:15,679 a wild topic to close on, because I mean, maybe 795 00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:18,519 democrats still do. And when I say democrats, I'm not 796 00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:22,639 referring to leadership in Congress here. I think they all 797 00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:24,760 know they were lying. I'm just thinking about like the 798 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,599 average Democrat voted do they really have Are they really 799 00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:31,280 still wedded to the idea that Christine Blasi Ford was 800 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,559 this this star courageous break. I mean, maybe the people 801 00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:39,800 who watch the view still think that, but I just 802 00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:43,719 I listened to it and was like, Wow, you're really 803 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,639 you're really going to re litigate this And and like 804 00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:48,840 you said, we were when the book came out, it 805 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,599 was a little bit closer to that time, so maybe 806 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,880 the ashes hadn't quite burned out about what was going on. 807 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,199 But hearing it from now in twenty twenty four, now 808 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:04,280 that we one he's sitting Supreme Court Justice two, the 809 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,480 whole storyline was not even just like it would it 810 00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:10,679 would be. It would it would do too much credit 811 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,039 to the whole affair to say that it was thoroughly 812 00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:21,039 rebuked and discredited. It was more like how absurd and 813 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:27,199 ridiculous and offensive the affair was that has been exposed 814 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:33,079 just through the hearings, through the unraveling of and it 815 00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:36,679 didn't take much to get to to unravel her story. 816 00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:39,920 She didn't have any Christine Blasi Ford didn't have was 817 00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:45,960 was not a credible witness, was not someone who was consistent. 818 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,920 She said she talked about things that were easily like, 819 00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:51,880 this does not square with what you said. Not only 820 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,760 does it not square, there's no way for me to 821 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,079 actually fact check that. 822 00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 823 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 2: And that's that's in the best case scenarios. You couldn't 824 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,039 fact check it. In the worst case, which was more 825 00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:03,239 often not than not, you could fact check it, or 826 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,960 you could compare it to things she had said elsewhere 827 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,519 in her story or at previous times when she told 828 00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:12,280 the story, and they didn't match. And so the way 829 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:17,280 that Kamala Harris in this book is retelling it, relitigating 830 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,760 it in earnest and thinking she's making a good point 831 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,280 or a strong point, going out on a strong note. 832 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,400 I mean, I remember that that was when during those hearings, 833 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,840 that was when she kind of became this this this 834 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,519 hero among Democrats, just because her performance was just so 835 00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:38,880 stern and scolding, which is a theme throughout the book, 836 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,960 by the way, So many of the scenes that she 837 00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:45,119 portrays is just her scolding somebody, whether it's like bank 838 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:50,800 executives or other Democrats who don't seem to care as 839 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,000 much as she does. Her calling John Kelly late at 840 00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:56,920 night on at his home, you know, just scolding. It's 841 00:46:57,159 --> 00:47:00,599 just constant scolding. And I suppose that what that's what 842 00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:06,079 made her somewhat of a star among Democrats. But yeah, 843 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,840 it was a very bizarre note to go out for 844 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,119 this book about about on a topic that, in my 845 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,639 view and I think in your view, has been so 846 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:20,199 thoroughly exposed as just this absurd, sordid affair. Well, she 847 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,800 lionizes Christine Blasi Ford. 848 00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 1: In this book. I mean, it's it's it's about as 849 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:31,400 sycophantic as as as a leftist could be. She talks 850 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,199 about her, how her bravery is courageous, and how doctor 851 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,079 Ford was so you know, break but you talked about 852 00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:39,519 how she contradicted herself. You know, contradictions are one thing, 853 00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:44,159 but these are not minute contradictions. I mean, Molly was 854 00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:47,519 pretty on this in the book. She could never Rozzie Ford, 855 00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:51,159 could never prove that she and Kavanaugh he had even 856 00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:54,440 ever met in college, And she didn't even have any 857 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,719 friends come up and corroborate her stories, and so she 858 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,400 had no one corroborating her. And then of course she 859 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,760 had she had contradictions. And of course I'm just going 860 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,960 to read straight from the book. Kamala Harris writes, and 861 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,480 again this is only a year later. It's not you 862 00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:10,239 know where we are now. But she writes, quote, like 863 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,800 many Americans, I am still processing what our country has 864 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,679 been through. What about what Brett Kavanaugh went through? But 865 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,280 of course this is a California senator who is building 866 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:28,199 her political capital to run for president on the back 867 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,920 of this federal judge who has your reputation, by the way, 868 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,920 by just that everybody he's interacted with of the highest integrity. 869 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,360 But she is building her legacy on the me Too 870 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,440 movement to run for president. And it's just one of 871 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,079 the most disgraceful things in the book. And it's just 872 00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:47,920 amazing to me that she ends with. 873 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 2: This, yeah, and this is what democrats do. The way 874 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,199 you read from the book was she phrases it what 875 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,679 this country has been through. No, no, no, this is what 876 00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,719 you put the country through. It's the samedynamic. When you 877 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,960 see news stories that are frames like Biden is still 878 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:12,800 struggling with inflation. Biden is grappling with multiple on multiple fronts. 879 00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:16,480 He's struggling with the border. No no, no, Biden is the struggle. 880 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,400 He's the one who created the inflation problem. I mean, 881 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:24,119 and I the previous administration. Trump bears some responsibility, but 882 00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:27,159 certainly it would have Trump Biden came in and just 883 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,800 poured kerosene on the fire, made it so much worse 884 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,159 than it had to be opened the border he did that. 885 00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:37,000 He's the problem. The same thing with Kamala Harris for 886 00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:39,880 her to say that what we went through, no, you 887 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,599 dragged us through that you made the whole thing this 888 00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:44,840 should have been. And I remember I wish i'd written 889 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,639 it down or at least tweeted it somewhere when Kavanaugh 890 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:53,960 was nominated, and you could see just the immediate struggle 891 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,920 in the media to get anything that they could say 892 00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,719 because he had worked in the Bush White House and 893 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,079 he had here's like you know that, and none of 894 00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:04,800 it was going anywhere. It was all so weak. And 895 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,079 I remember I said it in the office when I 896 00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:08,800 worked at the Washington Examiner at the time. I just 897 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,880 didn't write it anywhere, which I wish I had, but 898 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,239 I wrote barring some kind of me too thing, he's 899 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,800 going to sail through. And then of course there was 900 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,840 a me too thing. That was the one thing they 901 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,320 could that they could do, and I knew that was 902 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,480 going to happen, and they did it. But you know, 903 00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:26,719 even even with the accusation, there could have been saying 904 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,559 Democrats that said, you know, I can't there's not enough 905 00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:33,320 here for me to go through. But they get up 906 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:39,239 there on the dais in the Judiciary Committee and challenge 907 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,199 him on drinking, what his drinking habits when he was 908 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,800 like twenty years old? Did you ever drink to the 909 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,280 point of blacking out or where you don't remember? How 910 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,079 many beers? Would you say? You have a way? Just 911 00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:57,000 like a really stupid, stupid, intrusive like so beside the 912 00:50:57,079 --> 00:51:00,360 point lines of questioning, and again just like all around 913 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,320 offensive and speaking real quick. And I don't know if 914 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,559 we were ever going to touch on this, and I 915 00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:06,079 don't I don't want to skip. I don't want to 916 00:51:06,159 --> 00:51:08,840 change the subject. But just speaking of Kamala getting on 917 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,360 the Judiciary comedy, I had commented on this to you 918 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,519 where there's a scene where because she was going to 919 00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:18,599 succeed Barbara Boxer in California in the Senate, and she says, 920 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,639 there's a part in the book where she's talking about 921 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,760 I guess what committee she wants to serve on. So 922 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,519 she she notices this is Kamala Harris. She says, I 923 00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:31,800 noticed that there was an opening on the Intel Committee, 924 00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:35,320 and I asked Barbara Boxer why there's that opening, and 925 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,480 Barbara Boxer told me, well, it's it's it's kind of 926 00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:39,719 like low key work, like you don't get you don't 927 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,679 get a lot of press for it, you don't get it, 928 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,159 which I mean, it's insane to me because eventually, and 929 00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:47,360 you said this to me, like yeah, like she, I'm 930 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,320 sure she knew that actually the entire Trump presidency would 931 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:56,800 be all about the Intel Committee and Russia interference, all 932 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,800 that kind of stuff. And that's exactly what happened. But 933 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,599 not only that, if even if assuming like so, Kamala says, oh, well, 934 00:52:04,639 --> 00:52:07,960 that's exactly what I wanted. I didn't care about the cameras. 935 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,760 I didn't care about the spotlight. I just wanted to 936 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,000 do the hard work. And it's so laughable because she 937 00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:15,239 already was going to be on the Judiciary Committee, which 938 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,840 amant any Supreme Court nominations. Those were going to be 939 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,559 like absolute bloody brawls with cameras for weeks, and so 940 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,960 the idea that she was just like, you know, this 941 00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:28,599 wallflower who just wanted to keep her head down and 942 00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:32,280 get to the hard work and on the Intel Committee. 943 00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: Absurd speaking of the Intelligence Committee. This is where I 944 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,920 think this was like the biggest fit of irony throughout 945 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,840 the entire book, where Kamala Harris is like the og 946 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,119 election denier. I think I'm just going to read this 947 00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,280 whole passage in the book because it's just it is 948 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,559 striking when I heard it in the car, because I thought, 949 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,000 if these words came out of the mouth of a Republican, 950 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,159 we would never hear the end of it. Liz Cheney 951 00:52:56,159 --> 00:52:58,599 would be posting them verbatim all over Twitter. You'd have 952 00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:02,320 adamkinsing you're crying about them on CNN. So there's this 953 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,400 part of the book on the chapter on security where 954 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:10,519 she talks about the committee's May twenty eighteen report on 955 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,320 Russian interference in the twenty sixteen election, and she writes 956 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,639 all about how the voting systems were insecure and how 957 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,679 our elections are vulnerable to interference by especially foreign actors. 958 00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:28,800 But here's the passage she wrote, in our report, we 959 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,639 raised concerns about a number of potential vulnerabilities that remain 960 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:37,000 in our election infrastructure. Voting systems are outdated, and many 961 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,199 of them do not have a paper record of votes. 962 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,400 Without a paper record, there is no way to reliably 963 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,599 audit a vote tally and confirm that numbers haven't been changed. 964 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,920 We found that thirty states used paperless voting machines in 965 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,719 some jurisdictions, and that five states use them exclusively, leaving 966 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,280 them vulnerable to a manipulation that cannot be reconciled and reversed. 967 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,440 We also found that any of our election systems are 968 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,920 connected to the Internet, leaving them open to hacking. Even 969 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:09,159 systems not regularly connected to the Internet are nevertheless outdated 970 00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:13,719 by software that must be downloaded from the Internet. Imagine 971 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,960 that coming from Donald Trump when any Republican and from 972 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,000 the administration over the past four years. 973 00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:24,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that entire section, I think there's even a 974 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,159 you might have read it because it reminded me of 975 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,199 this part, So maybe that was maybe you hit it. 976 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,320 But she did say something like in the book, like 977 00:54:33,039 --> 00:54:36,280 so we weren't able to find any evidence of it, 978 00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:41,840 but of like Russians changing votes, but we do know 979 00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:44,920 that they access certain machines. And then I guess, like 980 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,559 that probably what you probably read the passage I was 981 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,800 exactly that I was thinking of, because then yeah, she 982 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,679 goes into how there were places where we didn't have 983 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,559 paper ballots to cross reference. So the whole purpose is 984 00:54:56,639 --> 00:54:59,960 just to create doubt about the election and whether it's 985 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:07,119 was legitimately elected and to leave open the possibility that 986 00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:10,360 he never should have been president. That's like the whole thing. 987 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,599 And that was, of course the whole thing that Democrats 988 00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:19,119 did during during the Trump years, especially immediately after. Was 989 00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:22,960 it no less by Hillary Clinton saying the election was 990 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,440 not on the level I think Nancy Pelosi herself saying 991 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,079 this is not a legitimate president. Yeah, And you didn't 992 00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,519 have them, You didn't have Meet the Press, you didn't 993 00:55:31,559 --> 00:55:36,159 have this week on ABC George Stephanopolis. You didn't have 994 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,639 any of these people bringing these Democrats on and saying, so, 995 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,920 are you ready to say that Trump won the twenty 996 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,360 sixteen election? Will you say that he is the sitting 997 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,599 president right now? And yet every Republican after Biden was 998 00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:55,000 elected had to say the magic words that Joe Biden 999 00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:58,920 is the president. He is the you know, legitimately elected president. 1000 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,880 They had to say those words otherwise the conversation couldn't 1001 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,719 go anywhere else. They had to stay on that. You 1002 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,480 didn't have the media doing that with Democrats and then 1003 00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:09,880 you know, there's Kamala Harrison, her campaign book, blueprint for 1004 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,039 what she's going to talk about in her campaign for president, 1005 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,400 just leaving it open the idea that, you know, maybe 1006 00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:18,800 maybe he wasn't and maybe he was never supposed to 1007 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,800 be president, maybe our systems were hacked by Russia and 1008 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,119 they installed him. You know the fact that she just 1009 00:56:24,159 --> 00:56:25,800 gets to say something like that in her book and 1010 00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:29,039 we'll never talk about it again other than on this podcast. 1011 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,239 The media is never going to talk about that again. 1012 00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:34,320 Speaker 1: Well, they never mentioned it during the January six stuff. 1013 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,000 I mean, I remember covering that committee and talking about 1014 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,719 how there had not been a single election won by 1015 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,199 Republicans since nineteen eighty eight, that Democrats had not objected 1016 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,639 to an electoral certification, and they did it in two thousand, 1017 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:54,079 two thousand and four to twenty sixteen. Obviously, And of 1018 00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:59,320 course now Republicans are written off as the election deniers 1019 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,199 who are trying to her mind election integrity. Of course, 1020 00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:05,199 Stacy Abrams always comes to mind in twenty eighteen when 1021 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,199 she refused to acknowledge that she had lost that race 1022 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,760 in Georgia. And so I can almost guarantee no matter 1023 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,599 which party wins, in November. You're, first of all, I 1024 00:57:16,639 --> 00:57:18,719 think we're gonna have problems in the selection probably. I mean, 1025 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,400 you're just I don't think we've fixed all the zuck 1026 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:27,280 box issues. And Democrats have gotten so smart at smart 1027 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,199 at the game here and so but I can guarantee 1028 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,519 Republicans win in November. You're going to have an avalanche 1029 00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:38,800 of Democrat litigation challenging this election in the courts on 1030 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,719 Capitol Hill. And you know, this era of elections uncontested now, 1031 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,760 I think our elections are so sloppy now that I 1032 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,360 think that era is just long gone. 1033 00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I mean twenty twenty kind 1034 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,639 of changed everything, and then for some reason now it 1035 00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,159 just takes forever to get certain places in a There's 1036 00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:03,880 always the places that are the most suspects, like what's 1037 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,039 going on there? Why is this taking you so long? 1038 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,920 What is it you're waiting for? Like why was everybody 1039 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,119 else able to get their votes in? And I understand 1040 00:58:12,199 --> 00:58:15,440 the idea that they're like, especially the Democrat the big 1041 00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:19,079 metropolitan metropolitan areas, they've got more votes to count. But 1042 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,199 if there are more votes to count, you should have 1043 00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:26,239 You would think larger voting centers, more voting machines and 1044 00:58:26,239 --> 00:58:29,119 more volunteers. That's just the way math works. You've got 1045 00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:32,719 more people voting, but you also have more people working 1046 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,519 the polls, so you know these places where it takes forever. Now, 1047 00:58:36,639 --> 00:58:38,480 I'm trying to think if I mean that we had 1048 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,599 some slow stuff going on in Florida in twenty what 1049 00:58:41,639 --> 00:58:44,920 was that two thousand, especially when they had the pregnant 1050 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,119 chads And it's probably really that's way back for your memory, 1051 00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:51,440 I would think. But you know, there were all sorts 1052 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,000 of issues that we saw, but none where it was 1053 00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:58,440 as widespread like here. It's like an Arizona swing state 1054 00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:03,000 Georgia that we're now told is the swing state Pennsylvania, 1055 00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:08,840 like it's Wisconsin. It's all the places that Democrats. Absolutely, 1056 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,239 they're the ones that rely on those places that if 1057 00:59:11,239 --> 00:59:14,639 they can't win them, their their chance gets just so 1058 00:59:14,719 --> 00:59:18,159 small and actually winning a national election for the president. 1059 00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:21,440 So no, I don't think we fixed anything, and I 1060 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,400 I for sure, I mean, we're already we've already seen it. 1061 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,239 I remember saying this several months ago that the deep 1062 00:59:27,239 --> 00:59:30,159 fake thing not deep fake ai A. I think I 1063 00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:33,440 think it's happened in the opposite way. Then, I thought 1064 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,440 it was going to happen. I thought it was going 1065 00:59:35,519 --> 00:59:39,840 to be Trump was going like things were going to 1066 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,920 happen with that looked bad for Trump, that were in 1067 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,320 fact going to be a I. And the media was 1068 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,800 going to say, well, we don't know, but they're sure. 1069 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,119 They're exposing everyone to it, but they're saying we don't know. 1070 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,639 The Trump campaign saying it's AI, but we don't know, 1071 00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:54,719 but they are AI. Right, That's what I thought. And 1072 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,800 then and then conversely, I thought real things were going 1073 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,760 to happen, and I guess it did happen this way. 1074 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,079 Real things were going to happen involving Biden that the 1075 01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:06,199 media was going to say was AI. And actually that 1076 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,480 did happen because remember there were the videos of him 1077 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,679 stumbling around and fumbling and looking lost, and then the 1078 01:00:11,719 --> 01:00:13,800 media was saying those were deep fakes. They were repeating 1079 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,760 the White House staying there were deep fakes. I think 1080 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,679 that that's going to continue. And then I really and 1081 01:00:18,719 --> 01:00:22,159 this this one really does scare me. Is this this 1082 01:00:22,159 --> 01:00:25,039 this technicality of I don't know what kind it's going 1083 01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:27,079 to be, but it's gonna this This has been used 1084 01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:30,360 against Trump multiple times in the past, including in twenty 1085 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,760 sixteen during the Republican primary, there's gonna be some technicality 1086 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,559 that's like, oh, you know what, this box wasn't checked. 1087 01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:39,519 He actually can't be president. He actually is not even 1088 01:00:39,559 --> 01:00:43,480 supposed to be on the ballots in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, in Michigan. Wow, 1089 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,960 you know what? Actually, and it's too late, Like I 1090 01:00:46,039 --> 01:00:51,159 totally see some secretary of state because they're sued by 1091 01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:54,199 some liberal activist group that something like that is gonna happen. 1092 01:00:54,239 --> 01:00:56,960 So just some technicality that is like this whole thing 1093 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,639 is completely wrong and actually he's invalid. I I see 1094 01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:03,119 something like that on the horizon, and that one's scares 1095 01:01:03,159 --> 01:01:04,239 me more than anything. 1096 01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Right, right, Well, Eddie, I think those were all the 1097 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,639 topics that I had outlined. There's any other topics that 1098 01:01:11,039 --> 01:01:15,280 you had talk about. But if not, what else are 1099 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:15,719 you reading? 1100 01:01:17,559 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 2: You ask me what I'm reading. I'm not much of 1101 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,440 a reader, so I somewhat I've seen it. I am 1102 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,679 a reader. I'm not much of a book reader. So 1103 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,199 you wrapping me into this assignment where I listened to 1104 01:01:27,239 --> 01:01:30,079 the book, so that helped, but I enjoyed it. It 1105 01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:32,559 was all right. Otherwise I'm always just reading the New 1106 01:01:32,639 --> 01:01:35,679 York Times and Politico and Axios in the Washington Post 1107 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:40,519 and Twitter poisoning my mind with CNN and MSNBC. The 1108 01:01:40,599 --> 01:01:43,360 last thing I'll note on the on the book, because 1109 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,440 she seems very fond of this story of election night 1110 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,280 twenty sixteen, so that would have been her election. Also 1111 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,559 Donald Trump's where and you've made fun of it too, 1112 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:54,320 Oh gosh. 1113 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:55,159 Speaker 1: The derita skin. 1114 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the detail that she has mentioned more than 1115 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,920 once that I do not understand why she thinks this 1116 01:02:02,039 --> 01:02:06,960 is either funny or relatable. I'm actually not. I'm not 1117 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,400 sure if it's supposed to be humorous. But she says 1118 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,320 she ate a whole bag of Dorito's while sitting there 1119 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,079 listening to the the election results come in, and she 1120 01:02:16,199 --> 01:02:18,840 makes sure to say like it's the scene is supposedly 1121 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,239 like a bunch of family sitting around with her, which 1122 01:02:21,239 --> 01:02:23,559 I mean, I believe it. I don't think it's made up. 1123 01:02:23,559 --> 01:02:27,480 But she she mentions the doritos, and I don't remember 1124 01:02:27,559 --> 01:02:29,599 she says what flavor she's had or not, I'd be curious, 1125 01:02:29,639 --> 01:02:32,760 but she mentions the dorito's and then says, I didn't 1126 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:38,599 share one single chip with anybody. I honestly that goes 1127 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,679 back to my point where I think she sets herself 1128 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,000 up for either something that's supposed to be relatable or 1129 01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:48,119 charming or even strong, make herself look impressive, when in 1130 01:02:48,159 --> 01:02:52,239 fact you just hear it and you think, what WTF, Like, 1131 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,159 what are you talking about? And why did you think 1132 01:02:54,199 --> 01:02:56,000 that was important to say? Do you have any do 1133 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,800 you have any read on that? Why she what is 1134 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,320 the story? And why does she tell it? Well? 1135 01:03:00,719 --> 01:03:03,119 Speaker 1: As actually I have it opened in the book right here, 1136 01:03:03,199 --> 01:03:05,639 I'll just I'll read straight from it. It's like three sentences. 1137 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,920 No one really knew what to say or do. Each 1138 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,800 of us was trying to cope in our own way. 1139 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,639 I sat down on the couch with Doug and ate 1140 01:03:13,639 --> 01:03:17,719 an entire family bag of classic Doritos, didn't share a 1141 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,800 single chip, And I think it was media he did this. 1142 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,800 But one of the news organizations reported on that, and 1143 01:03:26,039 --> 01:03:30,559 they used like an AI feature photo. It's like this 1144 01:03:30,639 --> 01:03:33,760 picture of Kamala Harris, like almost like she's like sniffing 1145 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,719 out of the bag of chips, and just that visual 1146 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:37,800 was just striking. 1147 01:03:38,719 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 2: Okay, well so, but at least we got to the bottom. 1148 01:03:40,679 --> 01:03:43,639 It's classic. So I'm guessing that cheese flavor. 1149 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think that's a classic flavor. 1150 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,639 I mean, I mean, cool ranch is popular, but I 1151 01:03:48,639 --> 01:03:52,159 think that was like a side flavor. Yeah yeah, all right, 1152 01:03:52,199 --> 01:03:55,480 well glad, We're glad we discussed it. Well, Eddie, thank 1153 01:03:55,519 --> 01:03:57,800 you for joining me. You've been listening to another edition 1154 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,239 of the Federal Stradio Hour. I'm Tristan Justine. The Same 1155 01:04:00,239 --> 01:04:02,480 will be back soon with more. Until then, be lovers 1156 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:07,840 with freedom and anxious for the Fray.