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Speaker 1: SSSSS dire wave.

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Speaker 2: Our anthropology is not derived by human psychology or you know,

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actorical data from M I T or something like this.

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It's derived from the revealed aspect of what we see

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in prisology. And so there's no real way to diagnose

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man's problem and to understand man and man's anthropology, as

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I said, without the the right theology n.

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Speaker 3: The sun.

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Speaker 4: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: Yes? How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm good? How are you guys?

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Speaker 2: We're doing good. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So, Julia, this is my wife, Jamie.

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Speaker 1: Jamie.

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Speaker 2: This is Julia.

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Speaker 4: Nice to meet you, Jamie. How are you?

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Speaker 2: And welcome everybody if you would be sure and CLICKK

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and share. Thank you for joining us today. Hopefully sound

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and everything's good. Today. We're gonna be talking about some

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of the areas that you would expect femininity, orthodoxy, and

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one you wouldn't expect bitcoin. That's right. One of the

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I think she has a video titling herself. One of

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the bad bitches of bitcoin is that right.

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Speaker 4: Old video called the basic Basic bit point. It's super

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cringe now. I don't think it's even listening anymore. The

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better one is how to be a Bitcoin hater. That's like,

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that's a good classic, so relevant, and that you'll be

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released some more in the next two weeks because we

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have a book coming out on the topic.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, cool. Yeah, and then you have another video that

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I want to ask some questions about, which is probably

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I think your biggest hit getter, which is about the

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fifty differences between men and women. So maybe let's start

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it off with tell us what you want to about

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yourself and your brave the world your channel, and then

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we'll get into orthodoxy.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sure. So I started the channel like over

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five years ago. Now, I had my Twitter before that,

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and then I decided to become more active in politics,

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and I started with some like pro gone conspiracy stuff.

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I wrote my own original content and just put kind

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of monologues together, and then it progressed into being an

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end cap and talking a lot more about political philosophy.

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I did some stuff with info Wars that was fun,

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and I then discovered bitcoin and I got to talk

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to Alex about bitcoin. It was one of the first

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people talked him about it on his show. So I

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don't think he's into it. I think he got some

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bad intel about it, So that's too bad. But you know,

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I made a small impact for a couple of years

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before he changed his mind. Either way, I ended up

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changing my mind on some of my views because they

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were no longer cohesive to reality. So I was an

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atheist for twenty years, so obviously that shaped some of

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my opinions in terms of politics, and I ended up

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deciding that I was wrong. And it's it's difficult to

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undo twenty years of wrong thing, but I did it,

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and so that ended up putting me in slightly a

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different direction on my channel. But yeah, I guess that's it.

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I got it. I did a lot of bitcoin stuff

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that's still the same because it's actually even being a

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Christian and into bitcoin that's actually makes more sense, yeah

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than not. And I'm also mother, so I've kind of

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been going in the direction of self sufficiency and home

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studying and parenting and all that because that's what is

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natural to my life currently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So what were the some of the things that

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took you from and cap and atheism towards orthodox I

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know you have a background that you mentioned to Michael

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period where you tested out Protestantism, and I watched your

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video about what took you back, But maybe from my audience,

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if they're not familiar with you in that journey, what

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were the things that you saw in the Protestant world

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that were enough to move you in the direction of Orthodoxy?

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Speaker 4: Sure, so, do you want me to tell you why

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I became Christian Orthodoxy? Yeah, So the first thing that

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changed in my life was I became anti abortion after

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being pro abortion for twenty years. And when you change

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an opinion that is quite drastic, that makes you question

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your other held beliefs. So if I was wrong about that,

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what else could I be wrong about? And I think

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that was kind of more on a subconscious level. And

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so it's interesting because I became anti abortion before I

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became Christian, but that almost led me to my path

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of Christianity. And so I realized that you can't have

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objective morality without an objective world giver, which is God.

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this sphere of people who claimed to be moral, like

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the Nona aggression principle. They touted all of these libertarian

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and cap morality, but it's like self created morality. There

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wasn't ever grounded anything substantial, because they would change their

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morality based on the circumstance, and like, you know, one day,

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like having sex with a thirteen year old is okay,

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and the next minute you were mean to me, so

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you aggressed against me, and the next day, you know,

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like spanking your kid is totally evil and wrong, but

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like psychologically manipulating and abusing someone because you think you're

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making them do something correct, that's okay. So it was

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just witnessing that in the community made me realize whoa like,

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you can't take your morality from like some dude on

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YouTube or like some philosopher you like, you can't do that.

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It has to be completely objective and only God can

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do that. So that was the number one thing. And

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then like the problem of existing, like anything existing, that's

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like kind of a big problem that if you just

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Speaker 5: What made you change your mind about abortion was it

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becoming a mother?

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Speaker 4: No, I changed my mind about abortion two years, one

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and a half years before I got pregnant, So no,

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you know, it was actually some Catholics that changed my mind.

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weren't saying it from a religious perspective really, but they

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were just very intelligent. They were some of them I

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met in my theology class in university, and some of

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them I met years and years later at Amesis meetup.

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So it was an economics meetup, and they were very intelligent,

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and they just like challenged me on some things that

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I thought everyone kind of accepted. I'm from Canada, It's

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very secular society, so no one really challenged me on

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these opinions before. And they were like no life sorts

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of conception, and then like, I couldn't. I couldn't, I

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couldn't say otherwise. And then that just got me thinking

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about it a lot more and I had to overturn

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a lot of my preconceived, easily given notions about the issue.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of times people find the problems

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with the ethics the easiest means to come out of

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the atheist realm. I mean, there can be other arguments,

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there can be other persuasive things, but the ethical issue

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is just the most accessible and the most obvious. I

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think we have a lot of people who we've seen

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convert because they couldn't really find any way to ground

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all of these ethical claims. And most people are more

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familiar with ethics than an argument from epistemology or metaphysics.

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and to point out that, you know, most of life

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is under in some way the domain of ethics, and

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in order to have ethics, you've got to have some

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kind of benchmark, some kind of standard, and that requires

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things like objective truth. And if you don't have a

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system of philosophy that allows for or can give a

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ground or justification for that, then your system is built

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on sand that's going to fall apart. So I think

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lot of the Protestant groups and churches, while they may

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have good, sincere motives and be doing a lot of

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good things, ultimately in terms of the ideology that theology,

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we're seeing the slow sort of collapse of the Protestant world.

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I know, the Episcopalians, mainline Episcopalians, mainline Lutherans, their churches

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are actually projected to die out because they've adopted sterility.

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to the end of their church. So what were the

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things that you saw that were problematic in Protestantism.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I went straight for the Anabaptists when I

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became a Christian, so I went I think I'm a

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bit of an extreme person, so I went for the

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most extreme Protestants. And you know, after a certain first

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of all, I didn't like the churches. Ever, I just

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went and I tried to do it, and it just

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never clicked for me. I never liked it, but I

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just like forced it. Okay. What really got me out

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of it was actually reading the arguments, and I read

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The Kingdom of God Is Within You by Tolstoy, and

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he inspired a lot of kind of Anabaptists thinking not

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like I know it, God predate him, but the way

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that they like a lot of the arguments he took

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inspired Goandhi to do the like his peaceful revolution and

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all that. So he's a huge prominent figure in that,

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in that strain of thought. But they really they're hardcore pacifists.

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kids are being murdered in front of you, you cannot

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fight evil with force?

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Speaker 2: Tols How's that.

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conversation it just doesn't teach that.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Church fathers don't teach that. And

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a lot of people will try to say that the

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early Church taught that. Now you can find Irenaeus, you

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can about Athanasius, Saint Ambrose, they all talk about the

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legitimacy of the death penalty and by extension obviously self defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so to me, I was not sold once I

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really dug into the core of their beliefs. So I

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had to. I remember like looking forward to reading this book.

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I got it in Russian and in English, and I

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just like I read it and I couldn't believe it.

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I just like, I need a different strait of Christianity.

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big things. And then I kept going back to Orthodox

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while because and for me, I was telling myself, oh,

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it's because I come from this, and I'm just like,

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dislike what Russia is and what Russia has become, and

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how the churches in Russia operate and are. Like my

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mom has like severe PTSD going into Orthodox churches from

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her childhood, so there's a lot of issues. We can

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go into that later. But so I had to like,

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and I was going to. I went to one in

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San Francisco and it was like hardcore, like Russia vibes,

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like old Russia vibes, and the priest was psychotic and

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very very overwhelming for me. And then I went to

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a convert church, so like it's still ro core. I

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went to ro Court Church with a convert convert priest.

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ever experienced that before. Like I'm from Russia, Like I

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go to church, it's like all Slavonic, it's like all

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Russian people. And I went to this church and they

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was like full of wonderful people, and I didn't get

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any of these vibes. And I realized that the baggage

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I was carrying, was it Orthodox baggage? It was like Russian,

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like horrible village people, Russian baggage. And then I was

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free to go back to Orthodoxy. And luckily it's the

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correct Christianity. So yeah, good worked out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone, all of my family. So all of my

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family on my mother's side are Orthodox. My father's side

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are all complete atheists.

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Speaker 2: Was it the bad experiences that you had, like in

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Russia that led to the atheism or.

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Speaker 4: No. I can tell you the moment I became an atheist.

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I knew them off by heart, and I liked all that.

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please let me find this toy, like like, I'm just

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a kid, Like, why are you punishing me? Like this

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is not fair? And I didn't find the toy. I'm like,

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God doesn't exist, and it's the most it's the most

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infantile reason. But I was a kid, Like it's a

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childish reason. But I was a child, and I just

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never went back and I became like a Fedora Edgy

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atheist for twenty years.

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as adults. When they pray for something it doesn't happen,

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they just decide that God doesn't exist.

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high time for reference attitude, like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for you all, because whatever I asked for

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I got so.

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Speaker 4: Right. Well that's now that I'm an adult and I

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look back and all the things that have happened to

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me and all the things that could have really gone

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wrong and maybe should have, I'm incredibly thankful to God.

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I think someone had to be looking over me.

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a generic neoplatonic phase or I wasn't sure what the

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deal was, and I was tired of churches, an American

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church corruption, and then you realize that church corruption is everywhere.

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It's not something you're going to get away with. And

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to a lot of a large part of it is

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if your patient, you'll eventually come across, like you said,

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the church that's right for you within the world of

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Orthodoxy I'm speaking of here. So for me, I agree,

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it turned out to be a road corps that was

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the good fit for me. But so let's talk about femininity,

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because this is a big thing that you and everybody.

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journey to Orthodoxy. You did a video a while back

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that got a lot of views, four or five hundred

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thousand views about the differences between men and women. Have

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your views, and it was very science y. It was

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such a sciencey piece. It was so grounded in papers

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and research, which is fine, I'm just going around, but

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you know, this is under attack the idea that men

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and women are the same, and this is all part

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of this sort of a satanic global elite inversion where

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they want to really destroy the relationships between men and women.

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come from labs. Even though they want to grow us

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in labs, we're not at that point yet. So as

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a female, what's going on? Here's what are they lead

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trying to do? Why are they trying to destroy femininity?

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Speaker 4: Well, again, I mean it's the typical reasons. They try

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to pin everyone against each other. And the more conflict

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there is, and the more loneliness and depression there is,

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and the more the more broken the family is, the

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better they have it. And I mean, look at the

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Black community. I listen to this. I listened to this

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guy and he does like a call in show, and

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he's Black, and he's a Christian, and he talks to

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women specifically about this very issue. And I bring up

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the Black community because they're like the extreme victims of this.

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Like they went in the fifties, they went from a

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ninety percent within wedlock children and like almost no divorce, right,

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and then in one generation it was completely inverted, completely inverted.

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They were targeted and their family unit was targeted and

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successfully destroyed. And he battles this and he talks about

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the state of women specifically, and we see this in

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every community and culture now. They were almost like the

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testsnet and they succeeded, and they're doing it to everybody

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now and it's horrific. And women buy into it because

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they're confused and they're taught from a very early age

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to only think about themselves and then they're special and

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it's just like it's just a side effect of this

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culture of narcissism. And because the state gets to grow

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from giving women more benefits and more handouts and empowering

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them in a way that disempowers men and placates men,

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the government grows. And we see that with like the

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voting the voting patterns and the types of policies women want.

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It's actually a horrendous and horrific thing they've achieved because

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a woman, a woman acting the way women are acting

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today is perfectly okay within the home when she's under

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the guidance of her husband, and instead she's doing this

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and extrapolating this behavior to like the whole country, and

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she's listening to like the big daddy government, and that's

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where things get really, really dark. You cannot have society

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of eata pule mothers that are like eating the children

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of society. That is what's going on.

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Speaker 6: That's amazing, that's amazing. You're talking about Jesse leep it

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so yeah, and I like his videos.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, LBJ at the time, back when

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they came up with this whole great Society scam, he

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talked about how this would get everybody in that community

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on the dole for the next century, right, He talked

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about how that whole plot would basically disenfranchise and destroy

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that whole community. And then, by the way, I do

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believe in the analysis of the CIA in the eighties

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and the crack cocaine epidemic, I think that was an

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engineered thing as well. And you can see a mirror

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with that in the South in terms of or the

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Midwest with both fentanyl or meth. I think those are

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partly psychological warfare drug warfare operations. Again, this is in

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the model of the British Empire and the opium wars.

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It's no different. People don't understand that there are social

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engineers that will study these things to wreck entire communities,

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entire people groups. And now what we're going through with

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this attempt a great reset is a kind of coordinated

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attack on the whole West basically. I mean it's not

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just the West, but the West leads the way in

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terms of you know, economy and all that. So the

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great research is a big step towards this kind of

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technocratic socialism. It's going to be a problem, and a

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big part of that is to destroy women. And you know,

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that's why I think your videos are are on point.

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Jamie has been doing some really good stuff on feminineity

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women as well anything else. Girls converse here, what are

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they doing to women? You wrote a book where you

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talked about princess programming.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well, I wish I had watched your fifty

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points video. I didn't know about it until a couple

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Speaker 2: It's a bunch of science. It's not for girls, it's science,

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all right.

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Speaker 5: Can you think of some of the highlights of that

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to talk about? Do you remember any that stuck out

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to you?

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Speaker 2: It was literally like scientific studies about what boys do

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when they play with trucks and how they draw art

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and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. I mean one of my favorite things

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is our eyes are littlely different, so we see movement

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and color slightly differently.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that. That's fascinating.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's one of the first five. And

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that's why, like the way it manifests in little kids

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is boys tend to draw with two to three colors,

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like dark colors usually, and they tend to draw motion.

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Girls tend to draw people, places and things, and they

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use like a way wider range of color. Obviously, there's

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like can you wance an exception to this? Like everything else,

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but our eyes are different, We're different, we evolve differently,

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we you know, for those and when I say evolve,

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I mean adaptive evolution, not Yeah. Anyways, I think I'm

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in company that understands what I mean when I say, did.

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Speaker 5: You notice anything about how the differences were complimentary to

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each other?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, So, like okay, Like the typical one is

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the baby crying. You know, a man could literally sleep

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by an infant screaming infant and sleep through the night

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because like you need to get up to kill the buffalo.

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And the woman has a has a small seizure when

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her baby cries, Like her brain has a small seizure

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when she hears her child crying. And this is like

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this is just common sense, but then you can. The

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reason I did the science stuff is because everyone will

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dismiss you as, oh, that's just you know, that's just

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a story from your marriage or something like from ninety

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percent of marriages. But okay, but now they do have

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the scientific research to back it up. So you get

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both the you know, the lived experience and you get

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the data, which is very easy to measure because you

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can book up your brain waves and have a baby

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cry and see what happens. It's very straightforward, and you know,

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people still dismiss it. I find like when I bring

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this stuff up to women, they'll be like, my boyfriend

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is such a much lighter sleeper than I, so that's

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not true. I'm like, okay, good argument.

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Speaker 5: I figured out why women are more chatty than men.

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I don't know if there's anything about this. You might

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know an article or something. But because you have to

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teach the baby language and you have to keep talking

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to it even though it doesn't talk back to you,

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so it's like a one sided conversation a lot when

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you're alone with a baby, you have to just keep talk,

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talk talking.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that's very that's very sweet, but I

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don't I don't know because so the thing I talked

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about in the video was because men to now to

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repetitive sounds. So and like the woman talks a lot

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more than the men. So it's like, which came first,

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is because men tune out repetitive sounds that we have

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to repeat ourselves even more for them to hear us.

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So it's this, it's this funny thing. But that's an

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interesting point with the baby. But to a future mother,

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there's also don't stress about that because they've done studies

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on parents who are deaf mute and they have kids

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who aren't deaf mute, and that means the mom's not

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talking to them at all, and they're fine, they develop

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language skills, they're just fine too. But that's probably a

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contributing thing chatting to a person that can't talk back

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to you.

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Speaker 5: He always tells me to talk more. I don't talk enough.

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Speaker 2: In certain instances. Yeah, but Jamie's more on the quiet side.

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She's definitely a more quiet, passive person, which works good

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for our dynamic. But I thought that part was funny.

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Speaker 4: Imin edity come naturally to you then, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was funny. When you were talking about

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the tuning out part, because I think that's every relationship

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deals with that, Like we're the guy has to like

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hear it three or four times before he finally pays attention.

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And she gets mad because I tune out sometimes when

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I just.

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Speaker 5: Will stop talking if no one's listening, then I'll just

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be quiet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, men are all about that.

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Speaker 2: She was talking about how there's there's a dynamic to

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why it is that way. It's not that all dues

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are just trying to be jerks. It's that we have

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an ear and a brain that's conditioned a certain way

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for these types of situations, for adaptation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the same reason why more manner in the

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autism spectrum in that specific way.

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Speaker 2: Yep. That's why I'm over here sperging now all the

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time on this channel, and I can make these jokes

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because this is a legit spurg channel. Nobody can make

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fun of me.

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Speaker 4: The femininity thing is interesting because it was actually kind

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of like within a marriage, like taking a more submissive role. Uh,

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came really hard for me. That's something I work on

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every day actually, and becoming a Christian helped a lot.

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Definitely helped a lot, and it brought a lot of

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peace to my marriage and to my state of mind

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because and I think a lot of women never get

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past that, like they want to they have this like

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urge to dominate, and then when they do dominate, they

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like hate their husband because they don't want them to

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be passive and they know, no real woman wants a

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submissive husband. Like I understand, I understand wanting to be

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equals and blul blah blah, like that's more reasonable, But

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no woman actually wants a submissive husband. No, he doesn't

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treat them with respect if he submits to her. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well that's why every beta melg is left.

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Speaker 4: Or just used.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that beta bucks baby. What about a couple

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more things before we move on to economics. So what

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do you what are you finding an Orthodox? Have you

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looked at the Orthodox world in terms of the issues

477
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going there on there? Geopolitically, I know that you know

478
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:03,240
a lot about Russian geopaul politics. Now, typically on my

479
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,119
channel and in my circles, we take a generally positive

480
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,440
Russian attitude in terms of the church because of the

481
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fact that we know the US State Department is involved

482
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,559
in the Ukraine situation, and while we don't see anybody

483
00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:22,240
as angels necessarily in these geopolitical issues. I'm just curious

484
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:24,599
if you had any comment on what you see going

485
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,960
on with the State Department using Bartolomew to try to

486
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,440
split the Orthodox Church in Ukraine. And I see this

487
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:32,519
actually as a pattern where they wanted to split the

488
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:35,240
Church of Montenegro. They want to split ultimately, I think

489
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:37,400
the Church in the US as well down the middle.

490
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Do you have any thoughts on that? Has that come

491
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up at all?

492
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Speaker 4: Not really, it's you know, I've had some conversations with

493
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some church friends about it, but I don't think there's

494
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,880
much disagreement there. And everyone kind of sees this kind

495
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of stuff as a sad fair the thing where the

496
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:04,000
thing that really bothers me. And I understand where people

497
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are coming from, but like this whole A lot of

498
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people on the right, whether the Orthodox or not, they

499
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like admire Russia and the Russian politics and the church

500
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and how they're more conservative and family oriented and blah

501
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:23,839
blah blah. And I think it's like the symptom of

502
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:31,119
America going towards like this progressive horror that anything that's

503
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:36,720
slightly less we want to like venerate, but Russia, like

504
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,200
you can't judge Russia just by its Putin writing a

505
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:44,200
bear optics like the optics are great, like the masculinity

506
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,119
Orthodoxy family, but it's kind of a it's a larp.

507
00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:54,200
Russia is not a haven of believing, you know, believing

508
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,640
Orthodox pro family people. Like. The population has very similar

509
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,160
problems of the populations in the West Havel and the

510
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:06,960
more extreme in Many in many directions. So you just

511
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:10,640
have to look at the statistical evidence for that one

512
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,319
out of three abortion so per we still have a

513
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,559
declining population, first of all. So I don't see where

514
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:19,720
this family first stuff is coming from. Maybe he's making

515
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I know, Putin's trying to do some policy changes for that,

516
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but that doesn't mean they're working. And the fact that

517
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he's trying to do it means that there is like

518
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a rod in the country to begin with. So a million,

519
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,559
six a million, six hundred thousand live births a year

520
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versus six hundred thousand abortions, that's one in three women

521
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,480
getting abortions. That doesn't sound like an Orthodox country to me.

522
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And that's like twenty eighteen. That's a twenty eighteen statistic.

523
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So I don't know what people are talking about. We

524
00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:53,000
have some figures, say, sixty divorce rate, sixty percent divorce rate.

525
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:59,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, is a pretty based Russian and he left the

526
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:03,799
Soviet Union as well a long time ago, and he's

527
00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:05,759
a way, you know, he talks about all those same stats,

528
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:09,559
and he's pretty realistic about whether, you know, because sometimes

529
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:11,400
people want to leave the US and go to Russia,

530
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,760
and he's like, well, oh my god, you're going to

531
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,480
have a lot of the same problems when you get

532
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:15,920
through Russia.

533
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 4: You couldn't I'm being one hundred percent honest with you.

534
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,519
You couldn't pay me five hundred million dollars to go

535
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,559
live in Russia. Maybe for a year, I'll take it

536
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:26,719
for years, but permanently I wouldn't take.

537
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,159
Speaker 2: Well, the one thing you mentioned in the video, or

538
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:31,760
maybe it was the interview with Michael, you said something like,

539
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,480
if you wanted to run a business, it's very difficult

540
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:36,800
because it's very sort of mafia like, right.

541
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can just shake off seventy one years of

542
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,760
horrific oppressive totalitarian communism where they killed all the smart

543
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,400
people and the ones that they didn't kill god away,

544
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,199
so there's no one left in Russia. They can't even

545
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,000
run a business, honestly, to begin with, because they're either

546
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:57,199
dead or they left, and if you try, you'll end

547
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,719
up like drinking yourself to death, or like not doing

548
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,079
anything because they'll take your business from you. It happens

549
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:05,880
all the time. They started doing it to my dad,

550
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:10,480
so they just you get an accountant and then you

551
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:14,079
wake up and your business is not yours anymore and

552
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:17,519
there's no there's no courts there at that function. It's

553
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:20,559
all bribes. You're going to bribe someone when your business

554
00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:20,960
is gone?

555
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I wanted to.

556
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 5: Ask before we get off the topic of church. Femininity

557
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:34,599
and the Orthodox Church is a big.

558
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Speaker 4: Part.

559
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Speaker 5: It was a part of my conversion. I felt like

560
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:45,159
the whole experience was so much more romantic than a

561
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,679
Protestant church, and they gave such a higher place to

562
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,280
women and obviously marry they do not venerate her. How

563
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,000
did you find that the femininity and the Orthodoxy going together?

564
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Speaker 4: I always say Orthodox churches of the most beautiful women. Uh,

565
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:09,039
so that something's something's working. I think I think Orthodoxy

566
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:13,800
because of how routed it is in the truth of

567
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:20,800
being a human, it just naturally accepts our differences and

568
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:26,079
empowers us to be okay with those differences. Whetheras Protestantism

569
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,920
is on most of the time seeped in modernism, and

570
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:34,840
it is more modern Christianity, So how could not be?

571
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,400
So it's it's difficult for them to maintain maintain that

572
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:42,760
when the culture that you know it comes from and

573
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:45,880
that shapes them is so progressive.

574
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:50,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Orthodox Church restores so much more

575
00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:54,239
dignity to women, even more than feminism.

576
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,559
Speaker 4: Ever, could you know, cheers to that.

577
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: All right, now, let's get into this crazy economic stuff,

578
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,039
because I feel like with this last run, a lot

579
00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:10,440
of people are interested in bitcoin, they're talking about it.

580
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:12,960
It reminds me a lot of the twenty seventeen period.

581
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:15,719
That's when I first got interested in crypto and bitcoin,

582
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,039
and I've always been kind of hesitant even though I

583
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:24,519
was buying in back then. And you have been for

584
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:28,400
a long time kind of a bitcoin champion. So maybe

585
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,400
start us out with somebody who's long term with this stuff,

586
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:35,079
Like what is the best way to explain bitcoin to

587
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,800
a new audience and why do you think it matters,

588
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:41,719
you know, given where we are in terms of the

589
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,400
dangers of like you know, money printing, FIAT all that stuff.

590
00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:50,679
Speaker 4: Sure, so one thing to understand is Bitcoin isn't just

591
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,840
a currency, it's a whole, entire new system of money

592
00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:02,280
and finance and economy. So before we had a single

593
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,960
entry bookkeeping where like you would go to a store

594
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:09,400
and buy something and they would write down what you bought,

595
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,119
or like you go to get some money and they

596
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,760
like write down how much money you got in their

597
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,519
one little book. And then you've got double entry bookkeeping,

598
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:20,440
which is like a bank where you have like a

599
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:24,519
third and like a third party like verifying your transactions

600
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:29,159
and amounts and stuff. And then bitcoins like triple entry bookkeeping,

601
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,760
so you don't have a third party. You have a

602
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,400
ledger of absolute truth that cannot be changed, that is

603
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,119
verified and secure by an algorithm and by work. So

604
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,280
that's good. You know why that's good because that is

605
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,079
a lot more censorship and confiscation resistant than a bank,

606
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:58,199
let's say. And the other amazing technological advancement about bitcoin

607
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,320
in terms of finance money is it is capped a

608
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,880
twenty one million, which means it is deflationary as opposed

609
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,800
to inflationary like a fiat currency currency that is not

610
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,679
backed by anything because you just print that or you

611
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,119
can dilute the currency, you can debase the currency. You

612
00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:18,719
cannot do that with bitcoin. That it just it's math.

613
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,920
It won't let you. So why is that important? Because

614
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:27,199
inflation is theft and theft is wrong. Therefore bitcoin is

615
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,880
the most moral money. So if you are looking to

616
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:33,880
get involved in bitcoin, get involved for the correct reason,

617
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,559
and that is it empowers people to be financially independent,

618
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,199
to not rely on third parties to keep their wealth,

619
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:44,599
and to not have their wealth debased over time by government.

620
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:45,760
That just feels like it.

621
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the first thing people don't understand, which

622
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,840
if you watch my Quickly Talks everybody out there, go

623
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,800
through my lectures on Tragi and hope, because one of

624
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,760
the things that Quickly covers early on is the scam

625
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:03,000
gold notes and fractional reserve banking and how the whole

626
00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:05,159
modern world is built on this scam. So if you

627
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:08,639
don't understand that, bitcoin is not going to make any sense.

628
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,599
Speaker 4: Nor will any of the other right, So you have

629
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,960
to know that you're if you're interested in that and

630
00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:17,119
you don't want to read like a huge, huge book

631
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,920
or you're not ready for that, or like you don't

632
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,199
want to read like a creature from Jaco Island that

633
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,599
explains the Fed. Really well, we just wrote a book

634
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:28,239
that is cool. It's small enough for you to get

635
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,039
a really good intro but not be overwhelmed with information.

636
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,039
It goes over exactly what you said, how our current

637
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:37,840
monetary system works, the history of money, like what debasement is,

638
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,239
what inflation is, why it's bad, and it does it

639
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,639
all from a biblical perspective. That's great. And then it

640
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:48,079
talks about bigcoin and why it fixes all this stuff.

641
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,239
So if you want to get any points and understand economies.

642
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,559
It's called Thank God for Bitcoin available on Amazon.

643
00:40:56,199 --> 00:40:58,599
Speaker 2: So, okay, is is your book out now or.

644
00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:02,519
Speaker 4: Almost it's out now? Okay, yeah, yeah, okay my bit

645
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:04,480
point Bible group and I wrote it and it's like

646
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:06,679
the perfect thing for this conversation.

647
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:10,159
Speaker 2: Oh good. Yeah, so I wasn't even aware about that.

648
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,840
So yeah, go you can go to her channel, go

649
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,559
to her website Bread of the World, and you can

650
00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:17,800
find that book. Now. Next good point about bitcoin that

651
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,199
I've been thinking about is usury because a lot of

652
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,519
Christians have, you know, an ethical issue with the principle

653
00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:27,559
of usury. Of course, the Church Father is typically in

654
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:30,360
the first millennium condemned usury and the more you think

655
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,880
about it, Bitcoin itself is kind of anti usury. It

656
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,400
can't be inflated. That's a good point here. And if

657
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,639
we think about the modern monetary system, it's built around usury.

658
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,639
The whole global economy is a giant usury based ponzi scheme.

659
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,920
Now that doesn't mean that there's not gonna be problems.

660
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,960
There's no silver bullets. That was one thing that really

661
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,000
gets on the nurse anytimes this topic comes up is

662
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,119
people say, well, how come your thing isn't the perfect

663
00:41:56,159 --> 00:41:59,280
solution to everything? What about this problem? What about that? Well,

664
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,599
there's always gonna be problems, right, So there's no silver

665
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,840
bullet that solves all problems. But if we start thinking

666
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,719
in terms of what is ethical money, Yes, the gold

667
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,239
standard is ethical, it makes sense to tie it to

668
00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:14,639
you know, something objective. However, we went off the gold

669
00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:17,239
standard in the early seventies and that all allow we're

670
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,760
going back.

671
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, the masks are here to stay and gold will

672
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,400
never be tied to your FIA ever again, get over it.

673
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:28,559
Speaker 2: Right, So on a user, now, it's true people could

674
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,000
who own bitcoin engage in usery, but you can't stop that.

675
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:37,679
But the system itself isn't useross because of its limitations, because.

676
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: Of the limited number exactly. So if you are under

677
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:47,000
a system that is literally predicated on theft, you are

678
00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:50,119
going to be more inclined to live an immoral life.

679
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:53,280
When it comes to your finances, You're more likely to

680
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,559
live a high paced, high time preference life, which like,

681
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,079
why would you like just a nice conscious level? And

682
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,559
we see this with millennials. Why would you save your

683
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,840
money and bother with that when it's gonna be worth

684
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,079
half the amount by the time you're fifty.

685
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what the Michael Sailor drink.

686
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 4: Just drink and have fun.

687
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: That big investor guy who just put four ndred million

688
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,360
in the bitcoin it was saying that one of the

689
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,039
motivations for that was that the money printing of the

690
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:25,719
stimulus in the last year of twenty twenty basically devalued

691
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,000
the dollar by some crazy amount like ten percent.

692
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:30,599
Speaker 4: So if you want to, I just did. I was

693
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,880
just on a live stream with him, and I like,

694
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:35,559
I knew that that happened, but I didn't know that

695
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:39,400
it was him, And we were talking about holding bitcoin

696
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,079
and he said something. I'm like, you're not really holding

697
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:45,239
bitcoin unless you live in your mom's basement because my

698
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,519
husband was like that, GIRs like a multi biliever, like

699
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:51,239
I'm allowed to joke with whoever I like.

700
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 2: Now, this is fun. So here's what the next The

701
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,880
next thing is. So those are the couple of basic principles,

702
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,320
a couple more things. Obviously the the This is where

703
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,239
it gets tricky because the blockchain technology is what allows

704
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,159
for the proof of work like you're talking about, and

705
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,559
the sort of the objective reliability. And that's another thing

706
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,920
that goes into economics is people want reliable transactions. They

707
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,159
know they can't be cheated, there can't be scams. Again,

708
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,679
nothing in the world is infallible, in fool proof by right.

709
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,000
But what we're doing is we're talking about a system

710
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:25,480
that's much harder to cheat and much harder to scam.

711
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:28,880
So the next thing is that people say, oh, but

712
00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:31,239
what about the fact that in the Great Reset, all

713
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,639
the global elites want to utilize the blockchain technology, They

714
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:39,880
want to tie everybody to E E money and these

715
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,039
different central bank created digital currencies that they're gonna come

716
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:47,400
up with. My argument is that, well, we're not gonna

717
00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:50,559
be able to necessarily stop that they're going to try.

718
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:53,280
That doesn't it make sense to try to have at

719
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,639
least some of your holding in something that would be

720
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,559
a potential competitor like bitcoin. I mean again, there's no

721
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:03,199
there's no nothing that's a silver bullet. I mean, do

722
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,880
you think the dollar is going to do better?

723
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,199
Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't make any sense, right, No, I

724
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,760
completely agree. Sure, they can try to do a bunch

725
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,079
of stuff. They're always going to try to do stuff.

726
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:16,000
There doesn't mean you just opt out and do nothing.

727
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:21,639
And so far bitcoin has benefited people not damn and

728
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:24,440
they're actually threatened by it. There's talk of trying to

729
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,119
criminalize up private wallets, which is the whole point of bitcoin.

730
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,519
They want everything to be on an exchange that they

731
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:36,079
can monitor, and they they're proposing to have to do

732
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:42,320
like your you know, know, your customer for over for

733
00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:46,559
like two hundred and fifty dollars instead of ten thousand dollars.

734
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:50,639
It's totally insane. And that doesn't just affect bitcoin, that

735
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,519
affects everything you do. So I mean, COVID is already

736
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:58,679
putting everything on card, like cash is already being kind

737
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,480
of taken out of circulation to some degree, and they're

738
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,239
trying to get us used to that. So if they're

739
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,320
moving everything online, you want to have more secure and

740
00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:13,360
more empowering and more private options. And bitcoin isn't one

741
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,880
hundred percent private, but as long as they don't trace

742
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,480
the address to your identity, than it is. So there

743
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:23,719
are ways to You don't have to use mainstream exchanges

744
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,960
that tie you to your bank account. You can exchange

745
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,119
bitcoin in person. You can use cleanly mind bitcoin. You

746
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,719
can mix your coins, which actually is still a pretty

747
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,320
difficult tracing process for them. From mixed coins. There's many

748
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,719
other ways you can use more more private coins like Monaro.

749
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,320
If you're doing actual things you're really really worried about, sure,

750
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:50,000
so you gotta you can't just opt out. You got

751
00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:52,360
to like keep with it and be one step ahead.

752
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,880
And bitcoin is like ten steps ahead, right.

753
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,639
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of people just don't understand

754
00:46:56,679 --> 00:46:58,480
the logic of it. And by the way I've watched

755
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:01,960
and studied bitcoin or ten years, I've waited a long

756
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:05,599
time because I was skeptical a lot of the fear, uncertainty,

757
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,760
doubt that I watched that I still see people in

758
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,920
the chat right now spitting out, dude. I've been seeing

759
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,440
this fear and nonsense for ten damn years and if

760
00:47:13,519 --> 00:47:15,440
I listened to you guys, I would have never gotten

761
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,519
into bitcoin. But I finally went in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen.

762
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:22,400
It was a wise decision, one of the best financial

763
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,079
decisions that I've ever made. And so and I still

764
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:27,840
see people repeating this like, you know, ten year old

765
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:30,679
fud bullshit. And I mean, you guys are the ones

766
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,199
missing out now? Is again, is anything fool proof? Do

767
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,440
you think that the dollar is going to be fool

768
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,119
proof in ten years? I mean that's the illogic of

769
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:41,320
these people right now. And also people, it's the actual

770
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,239
speculatives exactly, and people it's always a speculation.

771
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 4: And people don't like three trillion in debt.

772
00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: Yes, you can't just be in debt for eternity at

773
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,079
a certain point of pops. Right, That's the real bubble here.

774
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,519
And by the way, I've never told anybody don't get

775
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:59,079
gold or assets. I never said that, so people people

776
00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:01,599
have always had these Oh, if you're saying get bitcoin,

777
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:03,599
then you're saying don't get gold. I didn't say that.

778
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,679
I said have all of the assets that you can, right,

779
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,599
And I'm just saying that as the most the hedge

780
00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:14,320
that has the most potential in the Great Reset, and

781
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,320
all this stuff would either be gold or bitcoin. But

782
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,159
bitcoin has performed way better than gold. I mean, have

783
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,039
you watched the last year, right, duh.

784
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 1: What do you think?

785
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean the gold thing is a touchy subject

786
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,280
for a lot of people. First of all, theoretically gold

787
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,039
can be inflated. The best way to do this is

788
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,199
if you if there is an asteroid in space and

789
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,519
they prove that it has all these metals, and the

790
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:51,079
speculation it's just it can just be speculation. It doesn't

791
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:56,639
even have to be possibly impossible to physically mine those metals.

792
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,760
They can inflate the market completely. So well, that's just

793
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,800
the markets work, and they can do that if they want.

794
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:08,159
So yeah, I mean it's unlikely, but it is possible.

795
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:13,719
So also gold is manipulated to an extent. Also, holding

796
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,599
a lot of gold is really it's a huge barrier

797
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:18,840
to entry to do that. Like a lot of people

798
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,280
have to trust their parties again to hold gold for them.

799
00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:25,480
And we see time and time again when like there's

800
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:31,199
a big mining billionaire in Canada. He had a bunch

801
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,360
of gold and he decided to like take it out

802
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,320
like basically do like a bank crun in his gold

803
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,320
and they couldn't deliver on the gold because they were

804
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,199
acting like a freaking bank, like affectuers a bank with

805
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,480
his gold. So it's got the same problems right now.

806
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 2: By the way, I just MAXI Kizer the other day

807
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,679
just shared an article about I think JP Morgan had

808
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,360
to pay what nine and thirty something million dollars for

809
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:58,360
manipulating gold. So now people say, oh, but whales can

810
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,599
manipulate bitcoin. Yeah, but but the degree to which the

811
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:06,079
manipulation and the dangers that are present I think, I

812
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,320
think and bitcoin are actually less than in the other

813
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,320
fields because of the limitations on the number Bitcoin because

814
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,559
of the you know, objectivity and rationality of what the

815
00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:20,960
blockchain is. I mean, it's just a better So again,

816
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:22,880
there's none of these that have no risk. Everything.

817
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 4: The dollar has risks incentives like whales. Yeah, of course,

818
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:31,480
because it's still still not that many users a bitcoin,

819
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,599
So of course wills are gonna have a big impact.

820
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:36,360
That's gonna reduce an impact over time with more adoption.

821
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,159
But whales have an incentive for bitcoin to you know,

822
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:47,800
keep climbing, unlike governments who tend to not care if

823
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,119
they enrich their population or not. So the incentives for

824
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,000
whales are aligned to keep the coin secure and climbing higher,

825
00:50:56,679 --> 00:50:58,559
not to likerupt.

826
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 2: I think we're past the fear of phase, to write

827
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,079
the skepticism phase. Yeah, that a lot of people had

828
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:06,440
even four years ago, like when I was. I was,

829
00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:09,280
so I started when it was around two three hundred,

830
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,039
right under three thousand, and it was really hard to

831
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:15,440
get Really a coin base was a nightmare to get on.

832
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: It was.

833
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: It was difficult.

834
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,639
Speaker 4: It was I was coin base, I know, but.

835
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,039
Speaker 2: I'm saying back then, so I was scared, And then

836
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:28,239
now it's like, you know, no, there's a lot less fear.

837
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,360
You've got these big institutional investments going into it. So

838
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,480
I think that we're past the like this is a

839
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,400
thing that Dete is used, you know, this kind of nonsense.

840
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:40,960
A person who has a huge amount of bitcoin that

841
00:51:41,039 --> 00:51:42,320
can influence the market.

842
00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:47,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, so sometimes they'll like do like dumps a bitcoin like.

843
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: The Bogdanosum beat bump beat dump beat if you see

844
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,039
that video. Yeah, so that's those are great entry points.

845
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,400
Let me ask you this because this is the one

846
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,840
and I'm just being honest, like the one danger thing

847
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,800
about bitcoin that I have worried about is the fact

848
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:15,199
that it seems to have a subversive nation state power. Now,

849
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,880
ultimately the way the economy is. I recognize that we're

850
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,920
all they're in a sense, we're already in a post

851
00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:24,079
nation state situation. So there's no easy solutions to how

852
00:52:24,119 --> 00:52:25,960
to get out of that. I'm looking at it more

853
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,000
in a realistic way that that I think you mentioned

854
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,280
in your video. Christians, especially Orthodox, we want to be

855
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,920
in a position where we are participating ethically in the

856
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,280
monetary system. We don't want to forego economic power. It's

857
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,480
not inherently evil, right, we want to be We need

858
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:47,679
to be capable and educated in economics, and so that's

859
00:52:47,679 --> 00:52:49,679
why I'm saying that I think it would be wise.

860
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,360
I can't tell anybody what to do. I'm not a

861
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,800
financial advisor, but I think it would be wise to

862
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,760
have these kinds of assets for where we're going in

863
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,119
the future, just as a hedge and as the the

864
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,280
duty that we have to do ethical money, to do

865
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,000
ethical transactions. What do you think?

866
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:11,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's difficult to trust in something that

867
00:53:11,559 --> 00:53:13,880
is like so foreign to you and no one's asking

868
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,559
you to do that, but yeah, I get educated understand

869
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,760
what this monetary system does to people and how functions

870
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,719
and why, and then look at alternatives and try to

871
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,760
like not use PayPal as much, and not use banks

872
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,119
as much, and not participate in the things that are

873
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,719
objectively immoral the danger So.

874
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,159
Speaker 2: The dangers are outweighed by the positive. That's my argument.

875
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. And also like COVID, COVID print machine, that's

876
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,440
going to impact our economy totally. It has a delayed effect,

877
00:53:51,119 --> 00:53:56,280
but the dollar will go down in price eventually. The

878
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,920
Canadian dollar, I predict by next time, the next year,

879
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:02,519
by this time, is going to be on the decline.

880
00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:05,079
I think Canada is going to go through a financial crisis.

881
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:10,159
They they printed the most money out of any country

882
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:16,000
during this crisis. So I'm not going to be caught

883
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:19,320
dead holding Canadian dollars. I Am not going to hold

884
00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:25,599
money that's going to depreciate. And that is just that

885
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,760
is my financial advice. If you're a Canadian, don't hold

886
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,639
Canadian dollars. You don't have to buy bitcoin, you can

887
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,039
buy land, you can buy gold. You can keep your

888
00:54:35,159 --> 00:54:39,039
money in US dollars because that will crash later, I think.

889
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,360
But again, don't keep fiat, buy real assets if you

890
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,079
have enough money to do that with.

891
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was Jamian. I were riding around

892
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,280
a while back and we were talking about, you know,

893
00:54:51,559 --> 00:54:53,559
money that we had in savings, and I was thinking

894
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:56,639
about the fact that, well, it's just sitting there and

895
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,280
the dollar is deflated every year, it has less purchasing power,

896
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,760
so it's worth less and less. And I was like,

897
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,440
this is a while back, so why don't we just

898
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,760
put all of the savings into gold, right, And so

899
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,039
the logic of that was like, now, wait a minute, No,

900
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:11,840
gold is just sitting here. I mean, it's went up

901
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,079
a little bit from you know, the last six months

902
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:16,079
last year. And then I was like, well, why would

903
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:19,360
I just have it sitting in gold when the returns

904
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,119
on bitcoin are much better? I mean, and people say, well,

905
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:23,599
but what if it goes down, Well, that's why you

906
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,639
move it to a stable coin, right, so you can

907
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,360
get out if you have to. It's not like you're

908
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,599
necessarily going to lose everything. So yes, there is risk,

909
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:35,320
but again there's there's certain loss in the dollar that's going.

910
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,679
Speaker 5: To say, can you be certain that the dollar is

911
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:38,559
going to inflate?

912
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:39,119
Speaker 2: Yes?

913
00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: Over time?

914
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you think that they're going to stop

915
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,320
printing money.

916
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:47,559
Speaker 4: No, never, Every currency has a lifespan unless it's tied

917
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:51,880
to a real, real thing. So that's just a historical

918
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,440
truth and I don't see why it would change now.

919
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,000
They might want that to not happen, but like this

920
00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:02,119
is where they oversee depth. Like when the when the

921
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,159
dollar has in price and they can't keep paying people

922
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,840
welfare to like sit in their pod, they're going to

923
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,280
have riots that are a lot more significant than what

924
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,400
we've seen recently. So like I think they're over overplaying

925
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,960
their hand a little bit. And yeah, going back to bitcoin,

926
00:56:18,599 --> 00:56:22,679
you don't you don't lose unless you sell it, like

927
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,639
unless you sell it for fiat or something. You don't

928
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:29,639
actually lose if it goes down. So have like some

929
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:33,239
like set yourself some goals like Okay, I can I

930
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,679
have this much money I can speculate on or invest

931
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,639
or sit on. However you want to sell it to yourself,

932
00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:44,280
and then I'm not going to you know, touch this

933
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,159
un less they're an emergency or until it grows to

934
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:52,679
this much. But again, like I would suggest looking at

935
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,960
the coin as the moral alternative to fiat, because that

936
00:56:57,119 --> 00:56:59,280
way you're not like, oh my God, is it up?

937
00:56:59,440 --> 00:56:59,880
Is it down?

938
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:00,519
Speaker 1: Uh?

939
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 4: Did I make a good investment? Did I make a

940
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,159
bad investment? Don't look at it as an investment. I've

941
00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:10,800
always looked at bitcoin as the the future option, like

942
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,000
the future thing that I want to participate in and

943
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:18,599
the thing that's going to outlive fed currencies. That's how

944
00:57:18,639 --> 00:57:20,159
I look at it. If I need to spend it,

945
00:57:20,679 --> 00:57:22,559
then I spend it. If I don't need to spend it,

946
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:24,679
I don't spend it. End of story.

947
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: And all these people in the chat fussed and complaining. Look,

948
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,480
if you knew so much, then you would have bought

949
00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:31,760
bitcoin and sold it right you. Oh, it's going to

950
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,599
be's a big scam and it's going to drop. Why

951
00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:36,880
don't you buy it? How come you're not millionaires right now?

952
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, because no one, no one that's into bitcoin is

953
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,840
like like upset. No one's upset right now, trust me.

954
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,119
And the ones that do it for the right reasons

955
00:57:48,159 --> 00:57:49,960
aren't going to be upset if it drops down to

956
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:53,800
five k again. They're just not I know people I

957
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,000
know people who like I know people who bought like

958
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,719
ten cents and then bought house when it went to

959
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,840
one hundred, and they're like they're done with bitcoin. But

960
00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:09,880
that's if they looked at bitcoin as an alternative to currency,

961
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:13,559
they would have flicked kept zo because that's just you

962
00:58:13,679 --> 00:58:16,400
want some money, right like you want to save some money.

963
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,719
So it's all a matter of your attitude and perspective

964
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,519
going in. It's up to you how you feel about it.

965
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, so as Christians, you do have an

966
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,599
ethical duty to use your money ethically. We have a

967
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:36,039
long tradition of you know, not trying to not to

968
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:39,599
participate in unethical things. And if you understand the present

969
00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:42,639
monetary system, then you understand how it is very unethical.

970
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,400
It's all based on debt, it's all based on theft

971
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:50,519
and slavery. And I've never changed that analysis. I mean

972
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:52,320
ever since I read tras you note, I got into

973
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,840
Ron Paul stuff back, you know, when Ron Paul was popular,

974
00:58:55,559 --> 00:58:58,519
and I knew about libertarian stuff prior to that. So

975
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,679
I don't I don't think people understand that Christianity is

976
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,039
not separate from economics or the civil sphere. This is

977
00:59:05,079 --> 00:59:07,760
a total lie. I don't know where people it's out

978
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:08,599
of Protestantists.

979
00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:13,559
Speaker 4: Okay, It's mentioned. Money is mentioned over two thousand times

980
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:17,079
in the Bible, and money is used in Jesus' like

981
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:22,800
metaphors and parables more than any other comparative literary object.

982
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,840
So I don't think Jesus was like money bad. Money

983
00:59:28,159 --> 00:59:31,119
was just an everyday reality of life that is relevant

984
00:59:31,159 --> 00:59:33,679
to life and that shapes the way we act amongst

985
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,880
you know, act between each other. So we need to

986
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,960
take it seriously and accept that. Like you can't just

987
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:42,920
you can't just like deny that it's a thing. It

988
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:43,880
shouldn't be awkward.

989
00:59:44,159 --> 00:59:47,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, I never said that bitcoin

990
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:49,960
is the only option ever. I mean, there are a

991
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:54,000
lot of other possibilities, potentials. It's just had the best

992
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,920
performance so far and it has the most life.

993
00:59:57,079 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 4: I'll say it. Bitcoin is the best option. It's the

994
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,639
most your it's the best. Uh, It's it's had the

995
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,719
best minds work on it. It has proved not to

996
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:10,719
have like a like a king, unlike a theoreum. Not

997
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,159
that a king is bad, but metallic is a little

998
01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:15,800
flawed and doesn't have a moral compass in my opinion.

999
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,039
So you know, if you want, if you want to

1000
01:00:19,239 --> 01:00:22,239
hold ether and like you're okay with that, that's fine,

1001
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,400
but just know what you're getting into. Like he can

1002
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,559
change things about the protocol if he wants to. Uh

1003
01:00:27,719 --> 01:00:31,559
So that's the risk you're taking there. It's a good

1004
01:00:31,639 --> 01:00:34,239
it's it's it has some other it has some positives,

1005
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:38,760
but as a like a use case for a monetary system,

1006
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,239
like I wouldn't I wouldn't be behind ethereum in that sense.

1007
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,480
I think it's a good test net and has some

1008
01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:48,320
other interesting applications, but not the same applications Bitcoin has.

1009
01:00:49,039 --> 01:00:49,199
Speaker 1: Right.

1010
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 5: I just remember there's plenty of literature about how currency

1011
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,360
and money is alchemy and has a lot of occultic

1012
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,239
principles behind it. The dollar bill has a lot of symbols,

1013
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,480
has a book, The Alchemy of Money, Right, Joseph Ferrell

1014
01:01:06,679 --> 01:01:10,159
has one. You know, Templars invented the banking system. So

1015
01:01:12,079 --> 01:01:14,679
this is all wrapped up in the type of occultism

1016
01:01:14,719 --> 01:01:16,519
that we talk about, because.

1017
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,039
Speaker 4: They worship money, they worship Mammon. They chose, they chose

1018
01:01:20,119 --> 01:01:22,519
their god absolutely.

1019
01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: Before we go to the superchat questions, and I would

1020
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,719
add everybody, if you want to support us, be sure

1021
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,800
and follow Brave the World over to her channel. Her

1022
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:36,199
link is in the description what is your prediction? Will

1023
01:01:36,199 --> 01:01:38,159
you will you do a forecasting for US. Do you

1024
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,800
see the thirty six fifty K one hundred k bitcoin

1025
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:42,920
by twenty twenty one.

1026
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 4: Twenty two, No, I don't think so. I think it'll

1027
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,559
dip back down before the new year, maybe like fifteen k,

1028
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,320
and I think it'll like straddle like like fifteen to

1029
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:00,159
like between fifteen and twenty and then who knows. Like

1030
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,000
it's such a difficult market to predict, but I do

1031
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:06,480
not think it's going below ten k. Ever, again, I

1032
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:10,360
think it's unlikely that'll go below fifteen k. It could happen,

1033
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,480
but it's unlikely. And I think there's some potential big

1034
01:02:14,519 --> 01:02:18,360
players coming coming in. I think people are watching and

1035
01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:23,480
more people are buying in and using it, and the

1036
01:02:23,559 --> 01:02:26,440
technology on top of bitcoin is getting more you know,

1037
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,119
it's getting completed and more interesting and more private. And

1038
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,400
a shout out to all the core devs for like

1039
01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:35,119
working for free. You're awesome, thank you for your hard work.

1040
01:02:35,719 --> 01:02:39,800
And yeah, that's my prediction, and I really hope to

1041
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,400
see governments feel that it's too late to try and

1042
01:02:44,719 --> 01:02:45,599
do anything about it.

1043
01:02:45,719 --> 01:02:47,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's going to be. I mean, if

1044
01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:49,800
one government tried to take action to shut it down,

1045
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,239
we've already seen this phase like three or four years

1046
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,239
ago where governments were trying to make it illegal and

1047
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,400
it doesn't work. It's I think we're past that point.

1048
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 4: Unless it doesn't work, it'll make difficult for exchanges to

1049
01:03:02,239 --> 01:03:04,119
like like you won't be able to like tie on

1050
01:03:04,199 --> 01:03:07,119
American bank account in exchange, and like it's gonna be

1051
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:09,599
harder to buy it and trade it and all that stuff,

1052
01:03:10,159 --> 01:03:13,960
especially if they pass like the two hundred and fifty rule.

1053
01:03:14,039 --> 01:03:17,000
That's insane. If they pass that, then that's like a

1054
01:03:17,159 --> 01:03:22,480
financial freedom reduction overall for everyone, not just bitcoin. It's

1055
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:25,199
total insanity. I hope they don't do that. But yeah,

1056
01:03:25,519 --> 01:03:28,519
it's not gonna like kill bitcoin because there's other countries

1057
01:03:28,599 --> 01:03:33,719
and also you can not listen it's it's not like

1058
01:03:34,199 --> 01:03:36,559
it's not like where you break the law within your

1059
01:03:36,639 --> 01:03:38,559
bank account and they just like shut you down or

1060
01:03:38,639 --> 01:03:41,320
arrest you. Like it's it's a much more complex system

1061
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,719
and the laws around it are actually very nuanced and

1062
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,519
difficult for them to kind of navigate. So a flat

1063
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:53,880
out ban in any sense is difficult to even pass,

1064
01:03:54,199 --> 01:03:56,000
Like with this kind of tech, they don't even understand

1065
01:03:56,039 --> 01:03:56,480
what they're doing.

1066
01:03:56,599 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 2: And if one country trust to ban bitcoin. The other

1067
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,280
countries that don't ban it just do better. So it

1068
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:02,880
would be stupid, It would be a dumb move.

1069
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,079
Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, there's that vector to it for sure.

1070
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,519
Speaker 2: All right. So Jordan for ten dollars says, this is

1071
01:04:08,599 --> 01:04:11,559
kind of out of nowhere. But does the presence or

1072
01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:14,400
parasa of Christ apply only to the son or does

1073
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,880
the spirit also have a presence. Well, in terms of

1074
01:04:18,159 --> 01:04:23,880
the redemptive roles, the presence of the Spirit at the

1075
01:04:24,159 --> 01:04:28,199
escaton is not bodily or visible. That's why Christ took

1076
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,159
on human nature. So it's primarily Christ who is going

1077
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,199
to be interacting with us. The role of the spirit

1078
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:37,719
that the Eastern Father says to direct us to Christ

1079
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,599
and the role of Christ's direct us to the Father.

1080
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:44,119
So there's that triadic movement, and every theophany is of

1081
01:04:44,199 --> 01:04:48,239
course triadic, but it's really the visibility there in terms

1082
01:04:48,239 --> 01:04:50,920
of the parossa applies to the person of the son.

1083
01:04:51,519 --> 01:04:54,719
Den Cy Dias since twenty dollars, Thank you, Dency, much appreciated.

1084
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,559
You didn't say anything, but I'll take your twenty bucks.

1085
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:02,000
Father Deacon John since three eighty. Hello, Julia, I saw

1086
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:05,559
your interview with James Corbett that you did so he

1087
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:06,880
likes your Corbett interview.

1088
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 4: Oh that's old school, thank you.

1089
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 2: That is old This is James Corporatecorporate Report dot com.

1090
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,440
I like you Corbett. We've done interviews too. I'm not

1091
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:20,119
I'm not knocking you. I'm just being being silly here,

1092
01:05:20,719 --> 01:05:23,039
sid B twenty dollars. This is a great I love

1093
01:05:23,079 --> 01:05:25,519
this stream. Thank you also, Jay and Jamie you are

1094
01:05:25,519 --> 01:05:28,639
a cute couple. God bless you guys. Thank you sid B.

1095
01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:33,679
Oh that was sweet. Next time, however, I want to

1096
01:05:33,679 --> 01:05:35,960
talk to sid A and not sid B, but thank

1097
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,599
you for that. Twenty dollars, not averse fifteen dollars. I'm

1098
01:05:38,679 --> 01:05:42,239
just following Okay's command to super chat. Yes, and that's

1099
01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:44,760
why everyone else in the chat, all three hundred and

1100
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,639
forty five of you, must also follow Okay's command and

1101
01:05:48,719 --> 01:05:52,599
super chat. Janie Sophia twenty five dollars. What is the

1102
01:05:52,679 --> 01:05:56,400
best way to buy bitcoin? This is an interesting guest,

1103
01:05:56,519 --> 01:05:59,639
and it's always a pleasure to see Jamie. Do you

1104
01:05:59,719 --> 01:06:03,440
have a particular particular exchange that you that you recommend.

1105
01:06:03,679 --> 01:06:05,599
Speaker 4: It depends what you want to do. If you want

1106
01:06:05,639 --> 01:06:07,440
to be more private about it, you can do local

1107
01:06:07,519 --> 01:06:12,000
bitcoins dot com. You can go to an ATM. There's

1108
01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:15,360
like every city will have some bitcoin place that has

1109
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,320
an ATM. You can The best way is to buy

1110
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,000
it in person from someone you trust, someone you like,

1111
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:26,239
an acquaintance, a friend. But if if you don't care

1112
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,639
about the privacy aspect that much and you want to

1113
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,800
get in and have like have some bitcoin and just

1114
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,840
do it, you can sign up to an exchange. I

1115
01:06:36,039 --> 01:06:41,679
prefer Kraken. Gemini is a good American option, and Kraken

1116
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:46,199
has like Kraken has never had a breach. And I

1117
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,840
know some good people at that exchange, and I trust

1118
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,760
that they won't steal your money on purpose, and I

1119
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,000
trust that they're competent enough not to let someone else

1120
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,159
steal your money. Having said that, when you buy bitcoin,

1121
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:01,159
and if it's any significant amount, do not on an exchange.

1122
01:07:01,199 --> 01:07:03,199
That is literally just keeping it like at a bank.

1123
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:07,000
What's the point. Get a hard wallet, get something like

1124
01:07:07,079 --> 01:07:12,679
a treasor, and you know, have your own private keys,

1125
01:07:12,719 --> 01:07:15,320
basically private keys, that is what your own bank is.

1126
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,480
It's a matter of just writing down a bunch of

1127
01:07:18,599 --> 01:07:23,199
words and like burying them in your backyard and remembering

1128
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,360
a pin If you want easy access to it at home,

1129
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,159
and that way, no one can get your big coin

1130
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,320
unless they specifically know you bought it and they come

1131
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:32,480
over to your house with a wrench.

1132
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: Can you make the face General now says, for five

1133
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,360
dollars that Jones made when you told him you're a

1134
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,639
monarch as seventeen seventy six, I didn't make a face

1135
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,519
and I didn't mention that, so we'll leave that one.

1136
01:07:48,159 --> 01:07:50,599
We'll leave that question the side. But thank you for

1137
01:07:50,679 --> 01:07:51,320
that five dollars.

1138
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:51,679
Speaker 1: General.

1139
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,119
Speaker 2: Now, all right, everybody, this was a great discussion. I'm

1140
01:07:55,159 --> 01:07:56,920
going to add her book by the way to the

1141
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,440
show description that she just sent me, So if you're

1142
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,159
watching this in the next few days, be sure and

1143
01:08:01,239 --> 01:08:04,039
check out her book and subscribe to me. You can

1144
01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:06,800
get my books and Jamie's books at our website. That's

1145
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:10,280
what Plair Colleagueood wanted to sign copies rite for Christmas time,

1146
01:08:10,639 --> 01:08:15,480
wake your friends and relatives up, get miss Julia's book

1147
01:08:16,079 --> 01:08:20,399
about bitcoin. That will be some hype hype Christmas conversations

1148
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:21,000
about them.

1149
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,319
Speaker 4: Bitcoins and give it to your priests and bitcoin.

1150
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 1: There you go.

1151
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,239
Speaker 2: Yes, we want to have empowered Orthodox people in the future,

1152
01:08:28,399 --> 01:08:32,479
so thank you. Great conversation Julia, much appreciated.

1153
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,239
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, have a good night you too,

1154
01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:37,680
Bye bye.

1155
01:08:38,199 --> 01:08:38,319
Speaker 1: Hi