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We were 32 00:01:39,519 --> 00:01:43,359 talking with with k Y after the win over UC 33 00:01:43,599 --> 00:01:47,400 Riverside and he mentioned that the trip out to MSG 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,719 in New York was exhausted. That road trick was pretty tough. 35 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:51,280 How how tough was it for you? 36 00:01:52,599 --> 00:01:54,719 Speaker 2: Oh man? Well, I went straight from the Big Felt 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,920 title game in Arlington Rights in New York, so I 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,959 was gone for a week. My wife had finals and 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,719 I missed her entire finals week and came home like 40 00:02:03,799 --> 00:02:06,120 she picked me up from the airport straight from her 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,240 last final. So I think I win the absentee husband 42 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,960 of the Year award. But it was fun, man, it 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,479 was New York. Is New York's a thrill. I mean, 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,680 I'm an East Coast guy, so kind of like being 45 00:02:15,719 --> 00:02:17,400 back to my element ate. A lot of good pizza. 46 00:02:17,879 --> 00:02:20,080 Had some good food in Texas too, and I'm just 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,039 happy that the New York trip was a bit happier 48 00:02:22,039 --> 00:02:23,919 in the end than the Arlington trip was. And the 49 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,840 Cougar's got to win. 50 00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:28,439 Speaker 1: No doubt about it. It was. It was great to 51 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,159 see BYU basketball get an awesome win and just a 52 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:34,879 tremendous performance in the second half from AJ and the 53 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,879 BA men's basketball team. We're trending once again to experiencing 54 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,240 one of an iconic season when you combined BYU football 55 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:47,000 and BYU basketball. Last year eleven and two went over 56 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,280 the Colorado Buffs and an alible Bowl win. It was 57 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,159 was fantastic. It was awesome and then a sweet sixteen 58 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,599 run and we considered that probably one of the best seasons, 59 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,840 one of the best years in b y U athletics history. 60 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,280 Are we about to top that this year. Jackson, Oh, 61 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:04,719 it's got it. 62 00:03:04,759 --> 00:03:07,159 Speaker 2: They got to top it, right. I mean last year 63 00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:10,000 there was the disappointment of not making the Big twelfth 64 00:03:10,039 --> 00:03:13,080 title game. Like BA, you lost two games this year 65 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,759 in football and both of them were the top five teams. 66 00:03:15,759 --> 00:03:18,319 And in Texas Tech, that's a team that that's good 67 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,520 enough to play in a national championship game. They didn't 68 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,240 have a bad loss this year like they did last 69 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:25,439 year against Kansas, and I mean, assuming they take care 70 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:28,360 of business against Georgia Tech, which I mean Kalani Klonny 71 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,800 loves these bowl games, man, he coaches well in them. 72 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,800 It feels like it means something of this BYU team. 73 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,879 And they're not gonna have a ton of opt out 74 00:03:34,919 --> 00:03:37,319 it's opt outs. It sounds like, so I imagine they're 75 00:03:37,319 --> 00:03:39,080 gonna get the Winever charge attach. That's a twelve win 76 00:03:39,159 --> 00:03:43,199 season and then you go to the sweet sixteen again at. 77 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:43,639 Speaker 1: The very least. 78 00:03:43,639 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's got to be better than last year. 79 00:03:45,439 --> 00:03:48,479 It's a thrilling time in Provo, and you got to 80 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,439 think that this BA basketball team can make it past 81 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:52,800 the sweet sixteen as well. Obviously, it might be a 82 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,800 little early to talk final four. You need a little 83 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,639 more from their bench, and but I mean they're they're 84 00:03:58,639 --> 00:04:00,840 a sweet sixteen team, are unbelievable. 85 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: You mentioned opt outs. How much attrition do you think 86 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:07,599 we experience in that pop dark Well, how many guys 87 00:04:07,639 --> 00:04:11,759 will be opting out and not playing in that b 88 00:04:12,039 --> 00:04:15,439 YU Georgia Tech game. I don't know. 89 00:04:15,479 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you always have a few, just 90 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,480 because that's how just things go. But I think for 91 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,959 the most part, guys want to play in this game. 92 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,399 And then when I have that one last shot, I 93 00:04:22,399 --> 00:04:24,959 mean thinking about the seniors on this team and the 94 00:04:24,959 --> 00:04:28,279 incredible senior leadership that Uyu's had this season and just 95 00:04:28,319 --> 00:04:30,120 I mean the Tanner Walls and the Chase Roberts in 96 00:04:30,199 --> 00:04:33,839 that group that's really propelled this this historic stretch of 97 00:04:33,959 --> 00:04:35,560 UA football. Like all those guys are gonna want to 98 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,920 play one last ride, right like Carson Ryan And but uh, 99 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,439 I don't know. I mean, it just feels like it 100 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,800 feels like these ball games like Kalani's got the right 101 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,720 mindset about these ball games. It's a reward, but it's 102 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,680 also another chance to prove yourself and make a statement. 103 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,199 And after the alimible last year that was just such 104 00:04:50,199 --> 00:04:53,839 a blast. And I obviously maybe the opponent doesn't have 105 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:56,759 the same shine as as Colorado with with coach Prime 106 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,639 and a Heisman winner. But it's the pop Tart Bowl, right, 107 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:01,680 that's the viral Bowl. Like if you have a great 108 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,519 performance in the pop Tart Bowl, like people are gonna 109 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,040 remember that because for whatever reason, the Pop Tart Bowl 110 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:08,279 just always finds its way on social media to be 111 00:05:08,319 --> 00:05:10,759 the next viral thing. So yeah, I mean, I really 112 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,360 think this is a bullgame. They're gonna see most of 113 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,639 by you plan it, and uh it should be fun, 114 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,240 right Sonny Orlando in December? I mean you can who 115 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:17,759 can beat that? 116 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: It's a it's a great bowl destination. Notre Dame. Notre 117 00:05:22,879 --> 00:05:25,600 Dame opted out, I've been told, because there were too 118 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,000 many opt outs of key players, and uh, you know 119 00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:34,199 obviously they felt jaded, they felt attacked, they felt uh disadvantaged. 120 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:40,720 They felt like the ACC and ESPN collaborated a collusion, right, 121 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,319 Uh that that they they they they pitted Uh this 122 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,560 you know, ESPN and and the AEC kind of went 123 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:52,040 up against the fighting Irish now named the quitting Irish. 124 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,519 What do you make of that situation? The opt out 125 00:05:54,959 --> 00:05:56,079 due to the opt outs. 126 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: You know, I'm just I'm gonna try and sound remain 127 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,000 christ like here Ben, but I've always hated Notre Dame. 128 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:07,839 I hate everything about him. Just that is a school. 129 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,040 I just can't stand it. Just the pretentiousness and the snobbery. 130 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,600 And it's just like, maybe they opted out because of 131 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:16,480 the opt outs, right, maybe I'll give them the bedefit 132 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,000 of the doubt. But at the same time, just given 133 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,160 just the snootiness of that program and all the drama 134 00:06:22,199 --> 00:06:25,279 surrounding it, just the optics of opting out are so 135 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:27,360 weird and it just makes you look like such a loser. 136 00:06:27,399 --> 00:06:29,600 And just I mean, you gotta play the games right, 137 00:06:29,639 --> 00:06:31,839 like give your seniors. My thing is, it's like college 138 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,360 football team should play college football. If you go to 139 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,319 a bowl game, that's a reward. Like, yeah, he didn't 140 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:38,160 make the playoff. But I think at the end of 141 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:40,240 the day, like we kind of uncovered this year that 142 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,399 the playoff system is inherently flawed because these committee members 143 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,160 choose to value certain brands and logos and teams and 144 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:49,519 will bend over backwards to keep you know, a three 145 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,000 loss Alabama team in the playoff, but a team like 146 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,319 BYU that has a clear playoff resume isn't gonna make 147 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,800 the cut. Like it's just it's it's it's it's you know, 148 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,920 there's it's a broken system, and so I think at 149 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,120 the end of the day, like you could at least 150 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,600 hang your hat on, like okay, well you can say 151 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,160 the system is broken and play the game and give 152 00:07:06,199 --> 00:07:08,279 your seniors one last chance to play. Like I just 153 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,759 feel bad for all the seniors that aren't gonna be 154 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:11,240 able to play in that game and have one last ride, 155 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:13,480 just because it's like, I don't know, man, like you 156 00:07:13,519 --> 00:07:16,079 only get so many times to suit up with the boys, 157 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:18,839 like take that opportunity. It's just it's at the end 158 00:07:18,879 --> 00:07:20,800 of the day, it's sad, just because I feel for 159 00:07:20,839 --> 00:07:22,720 those kids and those families that aren't gonna get a 160 00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:25,120 last game, you know. But at the same time, it's 161 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,720 Notre Dame, like I know, like I said before, I 162 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:30,920 just don't like Notre Dame. I'm biased, but it's one 163 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,279 of those things where it's like, well, of course Notre 164 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:34,079 Dame took their bawl and went home, like that's just 165 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,399 what they do. It's yeah, they had a great opportunity 166 00:07:37,439 --> 00:07:40,680 to change the narrative and appear more and more chill, right, 167 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,279 And they didn't do that, so sucks for them. 168 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: Jackson paying dese Red News. You're on ESPN the fan, Jackson, 169 00:07:47,959 --> 00:07:49,800 what have you been working on over at the Desert News? 170 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,399 Speaker 2: Oh Man, lots of fun stuff. Just typically write a 171 00:07:54,439 --> 00:07:56,480 lot of basketball stories obviously, Like I said, I was 172 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,199 in New York for the game, a lot of basketball, 173 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,759 a lot of football. Just plugging away. Man, it's one 174 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,079 time the b Yuah. 175 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: It's truly a Uh what's the biggest concern right now 176 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,000 for b y U athletics? Would you say, obviously there's 177 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,920 a ton of momentum, ton of positivity. Uh, b YU 178 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,079 doing tremendous things. What's the biggest concern you have regarding 179 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,279 bo athletics right now? 180 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: Oh man, that's a good question. I don't really think 181 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,279 about that a lot because it just feels like there's 182 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:29,160 so much good stuff going on. But uh, I don't know. 183 00:08:29,199 --> 00:08:32,000 I mean just I just think nil on the transfer portal. 184 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,519 Just obviously b YU has the resources to compete and 185 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:37,799 io wise, but I just think you're gonna miss You're 186 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:40,399 gonna you're gonna miss out on kids of it occasionally 187 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:43,000 and guys will leave and it's gonna be Here's there's 188 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,799 always gonna be attrition that way, right, And I just 189 00:08:44,799 --> 00:08:46,840 think that's that's not really a BYU problem, that's an 190 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,080 everywhere problem. And then of course, if if the darkest 191 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,399 fear of a of a super league and college football 192 00:08:52,759 --> 00:08:55,399 happens and b YU doesn't make the cut, like that's 193 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,879 that's way down the line. That's like the dystopian future 194 00:08:57,919 --> 00:09:00,679 type of fear there. But I just feel like and 195 00:09:00,759 --> 00:09:03,519 I on the transferporter are still just so bizarre, Like 196 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,440 there's just so much going on there. And I really 197 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,159 feel like obviously BYU is equips and prepared to handle that, 198 00:09:10,279 --> 00:09:11,960 and they've done well so far, but it's just it's 199 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,879 always going to create problems. And so I think that's 200 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:14,879 mainly the main thing. 201 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,639 Speaker 1: Let's stock Cougar's in the pros here for a moment. 202 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:26,320 BYU has produced some fantastic football players over the last decade, 203 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,919 especially under Kilane, right, Like you do still have some 204 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,759 holdovers from the from the Bronco Mendenhall era too, Kyleve 205 00:09:33,799 --> 00:09:36,679 and NOI Fred Warner doing tremendous things. There's a little 206 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,120 bit of cross pollination between the Siess, Fred Water played 207 00:09:39,159 --> 00:09:44,759 for for Bronco and for Kilani. But how is BYU 208 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,080 doing in the NFL right now comparative to maybe what 209 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,159 they've done in the past. Do you think these former 210 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,000 Cougar's balling out in the league? What stands out to you? 211 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,799 Speaker 2: I mean, aside from like the Steve Young era, it 212 00:09:56,879 --> 00:09:59,600 just feels like this is the most visible BYU has 213 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,240 been at the NFL level. Like you can make the 214 00:10:02,279 --> 00:10:04,120 case that Puka Niku is the best receiver in the 215 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,799 NFL and he's a BYU guy. Fred Warner best linebacker 216 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,720 in the NFL. Obviously he's hurt, but he's the kind 217 00:10:10,759 --> 00:10:12,600 of guy that shows up on podcasts and I mean 218 00:10:12,639 --> 00:10:14,559 he's making headlines off the field. Not in a bad way, 219 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,799 of course, but that's just a visible guy. And Kyle 220 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,720 van Noy is still doing his thing. And for a 221 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:20,679 team like the Ravens that is just such a rabbid 222 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,799 fan base. Like I mean, I have a bunch of 223 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,559 friends on a Ravens fans, so they're like, you know, 224 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:26,799 Kyvin Noi is the all time Ravens legend now, like 225 00:10:26,799 --> 00:10:28,919 they just love him. That's a dude that like they 226 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,639 will worship forever in Baltimore, just because he kind of 227 00:10:31,639 --> 00:10:34,480 embodies that that blue collar Baltimore spirit. And you know, 228 00:10:34,519 --> 00:10:36,240 you got to think some of that comes from BYU. 229 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,879 Like I think when they talk about walk on mentality 230 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,840 a lot with some of these workers that might get 231 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:44,440 drafted later come out of nowhere in the NFL, and 232 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,159 I feel like BYU kind of breaths some of that 233 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,080 walk on mentality. Not to say that they walked on 234 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,639 at BYU, but it's just like there's someone about BYU 235 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,200 that puts a chip on your shoulder and you want 236 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,240 to prove yourself. And I really think you've seen that 237 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:56,679 in the NFL and guys like Ryan Rico, you know, 238 00:10:56,879 --> 00:10:59,159 the top five punter in the NFL potentially, and uh, 239 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:02,440 you know the Tyler Algiers of the world that that 240 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,840 plug away and do good things as well. Just it 241 00:11:04,879 --> 00:11:08,759 does really feel like an awesome group of BYU athletes. 242 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:08,919 Speaker 1: Right now in the. 243 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: Pros and with the only thing I wish is that 244 00:11:11,039 --> 00:11:13,240 Jamal Williams was out there still because he's such a 245 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:15,399 hoot and he was so great at Representative Why as well. 246 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,919 But yeah, really awesome group of Cougars right now. It's 247 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,440 just that's one of the best feaders in Kilane's cap 248 00:11:20,519 --> 00:11:22,759 is he's put some amazing players in the NFL that 249 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,600 continue to do damage. 250 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: Let me revert back to the BAU football roster for 251 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,200 a moment. We've seen Lemson Waller jump into the portal, 252 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,240 Dom McKenzie jump into the portal. Two wide receivers. You 253 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,879 have Jake Griffin recently that jumped into the portal. What 254 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,759 type of attrition do you do you think will have 255 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,759 of like players that are ye, look, I'm a little 256 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,960 you know, sad On le Mason and Dom. Both of 257 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,639 those guys had a lot of P four offers, tremendously talented, 258 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,519 just didn't get to play a whole lot this year, 259 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:59,240 but they have potential to be fantastic within a BYU offense. 260 00:11:59,399 --> 00:12:03,080 I think Jake Griffin, he's got two years of eligibility. 261 00:12:03,159 --> 00:12:07,960 Maybe his time is is uh, it's his time to transfer, 262 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,279 Like just couldn't get into the rotation. There's some really good, 263 00:12:11,639 --> 00:12:16,080 you know, tackles Andrew Williams, Caden Chitister, big strong dudes 264 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,879 that he's having to compete against. What what are you 265 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,480 seeing maybe forecasted in the transfer portal for BYU? How 266 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:25,120 much attrition. 267 00:12:27,639 --> 00:12:30,759 Speaker 2: I don't know, probably similar to last year. I mean 268 00:12:30,759 --> 00:12:32,600 they lost a couple of key guys like a Harrison 269 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:35,120 Tagger or Crewe Wakely, but I don't know, it just 270 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:40,480 feels like DYU they seem to avoided major transfer portal catastrophe, right, 271 00:12:40,519 --> 00:12:43,240 I mean, I haven't really heard any rumblings or anything 272 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,879 just yet. It just feels like some of that, some 273 00:12:44,919 --> 00:12:46,639 of those guys, like the LT. Nason Wallers, maybe that 274 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,960 the talented guys that couldn't really find their place on 275 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,960 the field this year are gonna be the ones that 276 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,120 maybe step away from the program. And it's just a 277 00:12:53,159 --> 00:12:55,039 bummer and going back, Like I'm not anti portal and 278 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,399 I'm not anti nil if like I want every kid 279 00:12:57,399 --> 00:12:58,960 to have a chance to play, but it's also like 280 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,399 it just I missed the days of when you could 281 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:04,000 have a four year guide developing your program and kind 282 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,080 of be a building block eventually, right, Like I miss 283 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,679 I miss that, And you know, I feel like Uyu's 284 00:13:08,799 --> 00:13:10,960 kept a lot of those guys lately and they've been 285 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,759 able to withstand it. But it's just it's a bummer 286 00:13:12,799 --> 00:13:14,879 when a guy like little Mason Waller, who's a really 287 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,720 talented receiver and you wanted to see what he could do, 288 00:13:16,759 --> 00:13:19,080 and maybe he wasn't ready or maybe the team wasn't 289 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,840 ready for him to step in year one, Like who 290 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,240 knows what happened, But it's a bummer that you won't 291 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,919 get to see him grow and develop in one place. 292 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,879 But that's just the name of the game in college basket, 293 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,600 in college football right now, Like that's just guys. Guys 294 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:31,240 need opportunities. And I'm not I don't want to take 295 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:33,200 that away from anyone, Like I'm not anti portal, I'm 296 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,000 not anti nil. It's just it's a bummer that things 297 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,600 change to where it's not a consistent group you're in 298 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,279 a year out. But it's also fun because you get 299 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,200 to see new faces like a Carson Ryan or a 300 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,799 bear Bachmeyer come in and make some make some magic 301 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,200 happen out of the. 302 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: Portal, which transfer her hurt by you the most this 303 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:56,279 past offseason, guys like Josh seeing Harrison, Taggart, Keeling Marion. 304 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,480 You can also look at well, you know, technically, like 305 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,000 Hinckley had jumped into the portal, he didn't find his way, 306 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,720 you know, to anywhere else. He didn't get his eligibility back. 307 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:09,720 I guess we can. You know, I'm just looking at 308 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,559 the portal. Last year, David Loti went over to Boise State. 309 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,399 You know that one maybe hurt. Crew Wakeley to Purdue. 310 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,679 Cody Epps went to Western Kentucky before retiring. Jackson Bowers 311 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:23,039 could have used him maybe at the tight end spot, 312 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:28,360 possibly alongside Carson Ryan. I know Kean need looked pretty good, 313 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:30,639 but he went to Oregon State. Miles Davis had a 314 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:32,440 pretty good season at Utah State. You could have used 315 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,120 an additional running back, right, you were a little thin 316 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,240 in that R and B room. You had to resort to, 317 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:41,200 you know, other other players on the defense side of 318 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,960 the ball. Which one hurt the most? Do you think? 319 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:46,919 Speaker 2: I think it's Kill and Marion. I mean, when you 320 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,639 have a third year receiver in your program, I think 321 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:53,320 that's so huge. And just Chase and Parker were great 322 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,960 this year, Carson Ryan was great, but having that third 323 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,440 receiver really would have helped Yu. I just I never 324 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,000 really felt like they had It. Always felt like they 325 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,080 were just a little bit short in the pass catching department. 326 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,320 And that's not a detriments to the offense. Like darre 327 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,480 did so much on the ground, LJS offensive Player of 328 00:15:08,519 --> 00:15:11,600 the Year. Like I said, Jason Parker were great, Carson 329 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,960 was great. You had a great offense at BYU, but 330 00:15:14,039 --> 00:15:15,759 I think one more receiver could have taken it to 331 00:15:15,759 --> 00:15:18,120 the next level, and especially a guy like mary and 332 00:15:18,159 --> 00:15:20,919 who's kind of he can stretch the field in the 333 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:22,799 return game as well. He can do some good things 334 00:15:23,399 --> 00:15:26,320 as we saw last year obviously, and then you know 335 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:28,200 in spring ball they were really creative with how they 336 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,639 were getting him to football. It felt like they were 337 00:15:29,679 --> 00:15:31,720 lighting him up in all sorts of places. I was 338 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:33,559 really intrigued by what they were gonna do with Keilan 339 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,919 Mary in this year. And then of course he jumps 340 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,399 in the portal. Yeah, I mean, I think I think 341 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,320 another receiver would have really helped this BYU team. And 342 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,720 then obviously Hinkley as well. If like that's super unfortunate. 343 00:15:42,759 --> 00:15:44,480 I just think I hate when the NC double lake 344 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,919 it's in their own way and tries to, you know, 345 00:15:47,879 --> 00:15:50,679 get keep kids from from getting to play some more. 346 00:15:50,679 --> 00:15:53,840 And it felt like Hinckley kind of got Delta a 347 00:15:53,919 --> 00:15:56,320 raw deal there. But you know, I mean, with with 348 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,159 Moa getting hurt, having Hinkley would have been awesome as 349 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,360 kind of the pass catch back, the change of pace back. 350 00:16:02,519 --> 00:16:06,759 I'm I'm I'm just astonished that LJ handled the workload 351 00:16:06,759 --> 00:16:09,759 that he did so well this year. I mean, obviously 352 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:11,759 he had his injury mid season kind of in the 353 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:13,799 Iowa State game, and he got shaken up in another 354 00:16:13,879 --> 00:16:16,840 a couple other games. But you know, he just felt 355 00:16:16,879 --> 00:16:19,480 like with with the workload that he had, he handled 356 00:16:19,519 --> 00:16:22,240 it so well and dominated, especially towards the end of 357 00:16:22,279 --> 00:16:24,360 the season. But having another running back would have been 358 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,320 so nice, just to you know, share the wealth a 359 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,759 little bit and maybe keep LJ a little fresher. But 360 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,519 obviously it's a moot. Point by he won eleven to two, 361 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,799 and they had a great offense. But you know, I think, 362 00:16:33,879 --> 00:16:36,240 like I said earlier, Mary, and having that third receiver 363 00:16:36,759 --> 00:16:39,480 as like a game, having a third game changing receiver 364 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:41,720 potentially is would have been huge for this offense. 365 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,879 Speaker 1: Take out bear Bach, mind LJ. Who can't you lose 366 00:16:46,919 --> 00:16:50,399 in the portal this offseason? Minus like I said, LJ 367 00:16:51,039 --> 00:16:53,480 and bear Bacher. Let's say that they're coming back. 368 00:16:55,399 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: Hmmm, assuming that he doesn't go pro. I would say 369 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,960 Isaiah Glasger just because you know, if you're losing Jack Kelly, 370 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,920 because he's gone pro and yeah, Glasger, when he when 371 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,480 he flashes, when he's at his best, he's just he's unbelievable. 372 00:17:09,519 --> 00:17:12,680 Obviously this year he had some injuries and uh, maybe 373 00:17:12,759 --> 00:17:14,119 kind of an up and down season. Like when he 374 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,920 was good, he was really good. Not he was never bad, 375 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,359 but just the consistency might not have been there one 376 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,880 hundred percent of the time. But I just feel like 377 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,279 that's that's the guy that you want to build your 378 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:26,000 defense around up. Just an absolute physical freak Lake Glasger, I. 379 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,839 Speaker 1: Like that take. Can't lose Ig. You gotta get him back. 380 00:17:28,839 --> 00:17:32,720 We'll see how what he decides here going forward, Jackson. 381 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:34,200 Best way to support you what you do, how you 382 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,279 do it for all of our listeners. 383 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, man at Jackson five, payn on Twitter and Instagram, 384 00:17:40,039 --> 00:17:42,200 reading the dese ret news, always putting stuff out there 385 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,079 and uh yeah always always love covering BYU and hopping 386 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,720 on the hopping on the show man. It's a great time. 387 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,799 Speaker 1: Appreciate you Jackson. Great content is always. Uh. That segment 388 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,480 was brought to you by RGS six Steers RG six 389 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,519 Steers Utah dot Com. I love RG six Steers. I 390 00:17:56,599 --> 00:17:59,920 love Tim Brown owner operator. 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