WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:04.160 Disclaimer. We'd like to know before the start of this 2 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:06.759 interview that the opinions about to be expressed by the 3 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:09.919 guest of tonight's Getting Salty Experience podcast are that of 4 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:12.919 the guest and do not directly or necessarily reflect the 5 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:29.480 views of the host of the Getting Salty Experience podcast. 6 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:34.600 You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience podcast. 7 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:46.200 Hello oh hello is right, and we you know somebody 8 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:47.560 came to the booth that did that the other day. 9 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:51.920 You remember that he was like, hello, I'm like, wow. 10 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:54.759 Check this out. 11 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:58.840 From Harrisburg. Met a lot of cool people. Consoles back, 12 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:01.119 but he's leaving again. He's like the man about town. 13 00:01:01.119 --> 00:01:04.519 He's the cruise king. Yeah, you know, cruise King of Chicago. 14 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:06.439 I told you I'm starting that work life balance a 15 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:08.079 little early. I don't retire for a little while. 16 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:20.159 Cruises yeahing Chicago. Right, he went back five times fast whatever. Yeah, 17 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:21.280 welcome back to it. 18 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:23.439 Against all the experienced podcasts, you know what it is, 19 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:26.159 it's not the ladies, it's ours. It's the only one 20 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:31.079 that brings the firehouse kitchen table right to you wherever 21 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:32.719 you are. I don't know if you're in the firehouse, 22 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:35.400 if you're home, if you're driving, whatever you're doing, we're 23 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:39.000 bringing it to you rough live. How is your golf out? 24 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:41.719 He's had a lot of farming. You corralled a lot 25 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:43.239 of guests for the show. A lot of old timers 26 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:49.760 down there. His liver is like, why I'm pickled, he's 27 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:50.400 actually dead. 28 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:51.040 He's in bolved. 29 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:52.840 I met so many guys. 30 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:54.599 A lot of guys know the show. 31 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:58.680 Oh yeah. A lot of people recognized me, said that 32 00:01:58.680 --> 00:01:59.560 they enjoyed the show. 33 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:02.799 I got a couple of guys, did a couple of times. 34 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:04.599 I did seventeen. 35 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:07.319 The girl was who was cracking me up and bending 36 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:09.400 my ship. Her husband's in thirty eight truck. 37 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:10.439 Mm hmmm. 38 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:15.599 He is following the show, said that's the spot the 39 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:18.919 spit Shi fire house, right that fire house? You know that? 40 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:20.840 I go, I know it all, bro, come on, do 41 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:21.639 a show about it. 42 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:26.639 Ship. That's good. I had my first recognition. 43 00:02:26.080 --> 00:02:27.319 The other day too, did well. 44 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:30.560 Well. Yeah, I was in my hospital. Some guy come 45 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:32.840 up like, hey, I recognize you. I'm like, I don't. 46 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:35.400 I didn't recognize him. I felt bad, But yeah, he 47 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:37.199 listens all the time. He doesn't do the live shows. 48 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.159 But I'm a little shout out. I'm like, look at that. 49 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:39.919 I appreciate that. 50 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:40.960 Man. Get his name. 51 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:42.479 I'll get his name. 52 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:43.240 It was just weird. 53 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:44.439 I didn't write that down. 54 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:45.240 No, I didn't. 55 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:48.479 I at least you weren't your dady Yankee Stadium. Some 56 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:50.360 guy's looking over at you. You know it couldn't be that. 57 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:54.240 Yess what he's doing is speaking of so Jerry Murph. 58 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:56.280 Oh, how's burf doing? 59 00:02:56.599 --> 00:03:00.479 He's doing great, doing great, I said, w I saw. 60 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:04.639 I saw a lot of guys. Yeah, a lot of laughs. Man, 61 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:14.159 I saw Pickford, I saw Ryan HoTT smithwick As, no 62 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:16.240 lefts none. 63 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:19.719 Of you down what North Carolina. 64 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:22.240 That was Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. 65 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:24.879 Three days, a lot and a whole but of a 66 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:27.000 sausage fest down in Myrtle Beach. 67 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:28.840 It wasn't too I tell you, it wasn't too bad. 68 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:32.120 They had everything. It was three different golf courses. And 69 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:35.680 then you came back to uh, it looks like a firehouse, 70 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:38.479 but it's a bar but it's big. They had. They 71 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:40.719 had the guys cooking in the back. Like the barbecue 72 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:43.840 wasn't too overcrowded. It wasn't like we're used to like. 73 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:47.280 It was just like yeah, it was good. It was. 74 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:48.080 It was a lot of fun. 75 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:54.759 Good, good for you, good for good, for good. I 76 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:57.919 was on commercials plates do go through the pictures. I 77 00:03:57.960 --> 00:03:59.360 was a little bit scared. I don't think we've ever 78 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:01.560 had a guess that has that many scary fire pictures. 79 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:02.800 There's a lot of them in there. 80 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:05.240 Bro, he's not a. 81 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:10.639 Yeah he's not. 82 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:15.680 Mister judge, how much you pay for the new guy? Oh? 83 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:16.240 Too much? 84 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:17.160 Too much money? 85 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:17.800 Alright, let's go. 86 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:22.160 Let me go commercials my little money and money too much. 87 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:24.040 Then took us out to dinner one night. 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You 167 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:47.639 can call it Jimmy de Guinea for all your products. 168 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:49.559 All right, roof, wait before. 169 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:49.679 You do that. 170 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:52.519 Vince you when you were talking to Vinny, how long 171 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:58.120 did you say. 172 00:08:57.080 --> 00:09:02.639 That's right off, I'm gonna I'm worth for armitect tough TikTok. 173 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:05.879 I need you to show me the original number he gave. 174 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:08.000 He's gonna be cutting half after he called this company 175 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:08.879 the wrong name. 176 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:12.360 That brings only girls to the yard. 177 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:16.639 Bro, you can't podcast at gmail dot com. 178 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:18.320 If you want Coup to come out and give you 179 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.039 a quote on your float. 180 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:20.799 Do it. 181 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:22.960 Let's bring him in rough all right here, we've seen 182 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:24.679 a lot of fire and it's a busy company. 183 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.879 I don't think of with this history. Man ready guns, Yeah, 184 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:33.440 coming to the stage. FDNY Battalion, Chief Danny Sheridan. 185 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:39.519 Mans the legends, guys. 186 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:46.279 Yes, but before we dive into your history, we got 187 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:48.840 to dive into patriotism, right guns. 188 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:54.240 Yes, sir, Yes we do. And here we go. Stand by. 189 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:58.360 I pleasure allegiance to the flag of the United States 190 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:02.919 of America and to the Republic, for which it stands, 191 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:11.039 one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 192 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:22.559 If we're not gonna have a word of the day, 193 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:27.120 but Coobs's knee is humming. So anytime you feel like saying, cubs, 194 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:29.440 take a sip, bro, There's only there's only one fix 195 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:30.840 for a humby knee, and that's Tino. 196 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:33.120 Boys. 197 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:36.279 All right, welcome to the show. Thanks for coming on. 198 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:39.320 We've crossed paths in the in the in the past, 199 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:42.159 meet you and Roofie. Not in a day, but we 200 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:44.200 want to get into the early days. We're going to 201 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:46.240 go back to the early days of a Chief Sheridan 202 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:48.320 where he came from a little bit of family life. 203 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:50.480 Of what brought you to the fire service. 204 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:57.639 Yeah, I grew up on Woodside in Queen's right by, 205 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:03.200 but down in Saints Is, down by by the White 206 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:04.480 Castle there forty third Street. 207 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:07.000 Yeah, we never were there in white. 208 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:09.559 I don't even know what it. 209 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.879 Is after the movies. What was the movie theater that 210 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:14.120 Coop It was right across the street. 211 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:19.120 Yeah. So I grew up on Woodside and we had 212 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:20.960 a little breakup in the family when I was three 213 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:23.360 and my mom got remarried when I was about nine, 214 00:11:23.399 --> 00:11:27.720 and he was a fireman. Wow that and he was 215 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.799 he worked in Queens. But I just remember talking about 216 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:35.919 interchanging into Brooklyn all the time. This is like the 217 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.159 early seventies, like seventy one, two three, So I guess 218 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:41.360 they were like the second section. I want to wait. 219 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:49.279 And my mom also had some relatives that were one 220 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:54.240 was in Harlem, my cousin Jimmy and Peter, so I 221 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.360 kind of was growing up around it. I never really 222 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.480 thought I was going to set out to be a firefighter. 223 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:01.000 But I'll tell you an interesting sorry about fire though, 224 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:05.799 and this might have been the push for how the 225 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:09.120 family broke up, unfortunately. But when I was three, I 226 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:13.720 remember actually in nineteen sixty four, we lived in the 227 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:16.159 apartment house called the Mets and we had a fire 228 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:19.840 in our apartment. And the funny thing about that funny 229 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:22.799 but not funny funny. But my grandmother be in the 230 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:27.960 superstitious Irish whatever. It was Halloween night and my mom 231 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:30.080 and my dad were going to a party inside the 232 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:35.759 building like there was four buildings, you know, and my 233 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:40.320 mom had contracted with my best friend Dave assisted a babysit, 234 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.480 and my mother and my grandmother got into a big 235 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:49.600 argument about my grandmother insisting about us being with her 236 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:52.440 that night. So when it was all said and done, 237 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:55.519 Grandma one, we're in the third floor and that night 238 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:00.600 we had a fire, well front rear, wow fire, and 239 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.919 my dad was hanging out the window and UH had 240 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:06.320 to be rescued from the from the aerial. But you know, 241 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:08.240 we were supposed to be in that apartment like if 242 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:11.879 so that was like And the funny thing about that 243 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:14.039 is that I remember when I got on the job 244 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:16.600 and the first fire I went to, I remembered the 245 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:20.120 smell because I remember as a kid, I was like 246 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:22.559 three years old. I remember I remember going up to 247 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:24.519 the apartment and the thing was burnt out, and I 248 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:27.039 remember that smell and it never left me. And I 249 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:28.759 remember the first time I went to a job, I 250 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:29.080 was like. 251 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:32.639 Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, bring your back. 252 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:38.320 So growing up in the city. I mean where I lived, 253 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:41.639 it was no far Grandma's always no grandma. I'll tell 254 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:43.679 you she she had some kind. 255 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:47.440 Of siss you know. But anyway, I want to hear 256 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:50.080 about your old man hanging out the window, Like what happened? 257 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:51.919 Happened with that? Like, like what was he doing? 258 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.000 Was he was only twenty one at the time, with 259 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:56.919 twenty two he was, he was a roof. He was 260 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:59.759 very agile, and I think he was literally hanging up the. 261 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:00.919 Hang out the window. 262 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.919 Oh my god, blowing out the window and he's hanging 263 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.960 And I spoke to this guy, uh he lives in 264 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:09.279 North Carolina, and we're talking about it, and he was 265 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:11.159 telling me like he was only about ten at the time. 266 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:13.000 He says, I remember that fire. I remember you falled 267 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:13.799 hanging out the window. 268 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:16.519 So that's crazy, man. 269 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:18.080 But that was like my first extent. I had a 270 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:20.480 little fire truck. I remember a little fire truck got 271 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:23.159 burnt up. And I still have my stuff that from 272 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:25.240 I was a kid. It still has smoke stains on it. 273 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:27.759 Like I look in the closet, it's still pretty black. 274 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:33.200 So you know, that's why I remember, like over the years, 275 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:36.159 going to people's apartments and fires and I always took 276 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:39.120 it very like, this is this is their own like 277 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:41.639 nine to eleven, that was nine to eleven, but this 278 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:43.679 is their own tragedy, you know what I mean, This is. 279 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:47.480 The whole life is up in whole world. What a 280 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:48.600 damage or whatever. 281 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:51.360 It is, smoked damage, fired damage. So I always kind 282 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:54.840 of took it more personal than maybe most guys would, 283 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:59.360 you know. So anyway, I I started becoming interested in it. 284 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.159 I went to college. I went to Saint Francis College. 285 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:04.600 I was in school with a lot of guys from 286 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:10.399 the job, Timmy Stockpole, Jimmy Leonard, Brian Boyle, Whitey. I mean, 287 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:14.879 there was a bunch of guys that were in Saint 288 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:17.960 Francis at the time, and I just became more and 289 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:20.879 more attracted to the job, you know. And they gave 290 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:23.200 a test in seventy seven, and I was too young, 291 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:27.080 so the next test wasn't until eighty two. And then 292 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:30.399 I started training for that test and I took the 293 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:33.039 written and I got a ninety nine. I still remember 294 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:37.799 the question I got wrong, Shit, I got wrong, who's 295 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:40.320 the wrong guy standing in the back in the truck up? 296 00:15:40.360 --> 00:15:42.080 And then I took the physical at the arm ring. 297 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:44.399 I remember it was one hundred degrees. It was the 298 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:48.279 middle of August or September, and I was so pumped up. 299 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:51.399 I was going up to the Laddie's supposed to throw 300 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:53.639 the ladder up. He climb up and I missed two 301 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:55.159 of the steps because I took him too at a time. 302 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:56.519 I come down and the guy taps you on the 303 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:58.759 shoulder says, you missed the steps, so I had to 304 00:15:58.759 --> 00:15:59.240 go back. 305 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:00.559 Oh shit. 306 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:03.519 So then I did one hundred. I got a ninety five, 307 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:04.960 so it delayed me two years. I got on the 308 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:05.960 job in eighty six. 309 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:19.600 So that would be a you dick, that's. 310 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:22.080 What you wanted to say, right, you got it anyway. 311 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:24.919 Yeah, it's tough to get on if you get in 312 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:27.480 ninety five too, right, I mean maybe not. 313 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:30.639 I was fifteen hundred. I think it was like thirteen 314 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:34.240 hundred on the list. The funny thing is, though, had 315 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:35.600 I got on in eighty four, I never would have 316 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:38.080 met my wife. I met her in eighty six because 317 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:39.759 I was supposed to go in and watch of eighty six, 318 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:42.279 and then that got delayed because of politics, and then 319 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.000 I went in August, and then I met my wife 320 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:46.840 on the day I was supposting in probably school and 321 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:48.720 we've been together forty. 322 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:49.080 Years or whatever. 323 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.759 Things happened for a reason. Yeah right, you went to 324 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:58.399 Grandma's that night, saved it and you missed and you 325 00:16:58.440 --> 00:16:59.039 missed a step. 326 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:03.399 So yeah, sh. 327 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:07.160 You're looking at and I'm down to half power and 328 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.119 I'm texting her like, please bring the power cord up? 329 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:12.759 What's she doing? 330 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:15.039 I never know what she's doing? 331 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:16.200 Now, what's. 332 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:19.440 Come on? 333 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:20.680 Don't play? Don't play it? 334 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:27.440 Okay, I still be all right, what are you doing? 335 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:29.720 How do we were? You're working too? 336 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:33.119 So I went to Saint Francis and I was working 337 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:35.240 in Merrill Lynch and I have to tell you I 338 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:37.720 love that job. I mean it was a great job, man. 339 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:40.440 I just all I did was go to school and work. 340 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:45.359 And but I think in hindsight, I probably I was 341 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:47.759 a little too open about my desires about being a 342 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:50.519 firement because what do I have to say? Firefighter? 343 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:52.440 Whatever you want. 344 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:55.960 And they all knew I wanted to get on the job, 345 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:58.480 and uh they offered me a job in the trading 346 00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:00.920 floor too, and I was just like, no, I'm going 347 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:02.880 I'm going on to fight apart, you know. And so 348 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.400 but I don't regret it. You know this, This was 349 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:09.799 a life beyond you all know. I mean, we all 350 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:12.880 been there. This is like the greatest job that you 351 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:14.279 could even possibly imagine. 352 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:14.799 You know. 353 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:17.359 I recruited, like kept the guys in my neighborhood to 354 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:18.079 come on a fight a part. 355 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:20.920 That's a right. I was like the recruiter for what 356 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:23.799 side I give. I tell people all the time. I 357 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:25.599 got the guy who rid in my one of my apartments. 358 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:27.519 I got him the job too, for God's sakes. 359 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:29.759 Best job in the world. 360 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:31.839 We used to go down to Pudge waltsh was down 361 00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:36.319 in Nazareth. Every like Bob Checko. He picked I beat. 362 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:39.599 I'd be on the corner doing pull ups on the 363 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:41.920 lighteboarb and he come with all the guys from the story. 364 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:44.359 I jump in the car and we go to Nazareth 365 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:46.319 and then we go to Pudgies for the night and 366 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:49.000 then come back. And that's all I did. I worked 367 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:50.559 out for like a year and a half, like I 368 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:53.599 was praying for the for like a boxer. 369 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:55.880 The only thing he didn't do is teach you to 370 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:56.960 hit every rung on the ladder. 371 00:18:58.200 --> 00:18:58.400 Well. 372 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:04.400 He never told us you got I want my money pack. 373 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:09.359 Get called in August of eighty six. You had a 374 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:14.279 pretty start studed uh proby class there, right, Yeah, yeah, 375 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:16.480 it was some names in the proby class that you had. 376 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:20.160 Oh well, some have passed and God rest their souls. 377 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:22.119 I mean god Brian's fa hald to make out. 378 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:23.279 But yeah, you can take a look at. 379 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:27.039 Brian Faye, crys O. Sullivan's up nine to eleven, John Ginley, 380 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:33.400 Frank Simpson, charge of Marine Division these days, Bobby Bohack, 381 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:38.240 John buck Guy, Bod Guy. 382 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:40.960 John Bookeye full spool injury true to Locke. 383 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:43.480 John Buck Guy. My man, I'll get some stories about 384 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:46.000 John Buck Guy. I can still remember, like most guys 385 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:48.759 in my proby class. It's crazy. I can't see right now, 386 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:50.200 but I can remember them. 387 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:54.720 I wish I could see him, but I do remember 388 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:55.559 really quick. 389 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:58.559 Hold on, somebody does Mike Thomas a chief, great job 390 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:01.279 with the FD I see keynote dress in twenty twenty 391 00:20:01.319 --> 00:20:03.559 three and outstanding tribute to Bobby Holton. 392 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:07.440 Best to you, Thank you, thank you, Mike. 393 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:13.480 That's you, your PROB class yup and who do you know? 394 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:19.519 What call do you make society? Jesus, where the fuck 395 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:20.200 do you want to go? 396 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:20.440 Now? 397 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.880 I love you? No, that's great, Daddy. 398 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:29.039 Bob Checko and uh, you know it's very I have 399 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:31.960 to tell you, it's intimidating, you know, like you know, 400 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.839 walking into the doors in seventeen truck I got there 401 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:39.680 with with Frank Simpson and Matt Hanson and to get 402 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:40.240 that that. 403 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:42.519 Did you want to go to seventeen or somebody said this? 404 00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:44.079 I had a list I had to give him, and 405 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:45.880 you know it was like to hold the sixth division, 406 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:46.160 you know. 407 00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:50.400 Right, So seventeen was fourth on the list? Who was first? 408 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:53.880 I just I just wrote down what they told me. 409 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:54.720 I had no idea. 410 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:55.599 I just handed the guy. 411 00:20:55.640 --> 00:20:56.000 You know, I just. 412 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:57.480 Hadn't want to go to you know why I wanted 413 00:20:57.519 --> 00:20:59.240 to go to the Bronks. Let's be honest here. You 414 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:01.359 know why I went to the because when I was 415 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:04.920 in high school I read the report from Engine eighty two. Yeah, 416 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:07.960 and I said, I read that book and I was like, man, 417 00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:10.559 I'm going to the South Bronx. 418 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:12.559 I read that book about five times already. 419 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:13.440 Oh I love that book. 420 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:17.759 You know we had him on the show, right, Yeah. 421 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:19.960 I worked with some of those guys like Danny Guiney 422 00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:21.200 and well. 423 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:22.880 He doesn't he changes the name in the book. 424 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:24.279 Yeah, but you know who they are, Like, I know 425 00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:26.680 you know who they are, right. I worked with those guys. 426 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:29.400 I remember getting detailed up to eighty two engine and 427 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:32.319 you know, thirty one truck and working there, and you 428 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:32.880 know it's like. 429 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:35.440 So you read the book and now you live in 430 00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:35.880 that book. 431 00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:38.799 Bro, that I got to go to the South Bronx. 432 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:40.880 He's like, no, well, there's nowhere else to go but 433 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:43.599 the South Bronx. You know, you. 434 00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:45.599 Go to seventeen. Who else won't we to seventeen? 435 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:48.680 So Frank Simpson, chief of the Marine Division, and Matt Hanson, 436 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:52.039 So Matt all went to the truck. We all went 437 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:52.559 to the truck. 438 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:52.799 Yeah. 439 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:55.279 Wow, that's a heavy hitting class. Damn. 440 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:59.319 Bro Let me tell you something. It's like I felt 441 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:02.119 like a like a rookie coming up from the minor 442 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.599 leagues going into like the twenty seven Yankees or like 443 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:07.960 the seventy seven Yankees. It was intimidating beyond belief. 444 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:09.359 Sure it is. 445 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:13.960 Yeah, that's yes. Like the Green Berets. Man love those guys, 446 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:15.799 the Sult of the Earth. I love that firehouse. 447 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:19.240 Got the money we had on who Yeah, John Roy 448 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:20.599 he was from sixty right. 449 00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:23.160 Un Roy yeah, I can tell you john Oh. 450 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:25.319 We had a lot of guys from seventeen on. We 451 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:27.799 had Johnson on, we had uh. 452 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:29.759 Oh, Daddy, yeah, Billy Lawson. 453 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:31.279 Really lost, we had on. 454 00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:33.039 House. 455 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:36.240 It's just, you know, it's it's just intimidating. Just it 456 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:39.160 was just intimidating being this kid from the city, you know, 457 00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:43.000 just turned twenty five years old, and you know, you're 458 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:45.920 walking into this iconic firehouse, you know, and it's like 459 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:49.920 you feel like there's like everyone's just watching you, you know, 460 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:53.200 and you gotta you gotta, you gotta prove yourself like 461 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:57.559 you know they are they are ye yeah, yeah, Just 462 00:22:57.799 --> 00:22:58.240 who was. 463 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:00.880 Who was that when you went? Who was some of 464 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:02.079 the senior guys that were there. 465 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:06.400 Mike Weldon, Jack Ryan, Tom McDowell. You know it's funny 466 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:08.960 about senior men, right, they were all through the Warriors, 467 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:14.440 these guys Patty Mac, Tommy mahoney and the engine you said, Johnson, 468 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:17.920 Jimmy Lafferty, and you know there's like then there's this 469 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:19.960 group of guys that were like in the middle. They 470 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:22.759 were like from ten to like twenty, you know, and 471 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:25.640 they had so they got on the seventies and they 472 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:26.799 were just catching the World War. 473 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:28.680 That's why I thought you were talking about the tenth 474 00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:31.400 to twenty. That's how crazy it is, cools. How the 475 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:34.319 guys he's mentioned are all over twenty all right. 476 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:37.119 The officers, all the offices, world enough to be my father. 477 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:40.960 I remember if Maxwell was the Captain, Bill Kelly, Billy 478 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:44.359 Geice and Dennis Callapy and then the chiefs were all 479 00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:45.640 old enough to be your grandfather. 480 00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:49.839 You know, they were just stay. Yeah, they just stayed forever, right. 481 00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:54.000 And the senior men, you know, thirty thirty years, thirty plus. 482 00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:56.680 You know, Patty Mack was in World War Two, guys 483 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:57.519 w in the Korean War. 484 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:00.759 Those are guys. Those are the best guys. 485 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:00.920 Though. 486 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:01.440 Every time we. 487 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:04.480 Guys, bro, what's gonna timidate? 488 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.160 You're gonna grab your by the ear and say, all right, 489 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:08.799 can't come on away. 490 00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:11.160 You know, some of these guys were in Vietnam, like 491 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:16.960 Frank Trump and you know, just like Ray Weldon, and 492 00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:19.000 it's just crazy, man, these guys just. 493 00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:22.759 You know, he was the Vietnam guy, right, he was 494 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:23.400 Vietnam guy. 495 00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:29.319 Yeah, Vietnam guy. Absolutely, electrician yeah, yep. So you know 496 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:31.079 it's intimidating, very intimidating. 497 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:34.680 So how long are you there before you catch your 498 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:35.240 first job. 499 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:39.240 All right, So the first job. Okay, so I remember 500 00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:41.160 the first job. I don't remember anything that, but I 501 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:45.960 remember the first job at the first job, right. It 502 00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:50.119 was one four nine between Marris Caland and Morris. It 503 00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:52.319 was on the north side of the block, and I 504 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:54.880 remember pulling up. I remember who was working. Bobby Norman 505 00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:59.079 rest his soul and Frankie Kills Vietnam Vet had the 506 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:02.319 irons and the cap. Then it was a covering guy. 507 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:06.559 It just Ryan was Ryan's I can't remember his name. Great, 508 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:08.759 I mean, I could all this work with this guy. 509 00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:12.519 And I remember like I had the can, you know, 510 00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:16.160 and I'm going up the stairs my boots, you know, 511 00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:18.880 I got the heavy boots and the coat and everything's 512 00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:22.839 wobbling and the people are pouring down screaming. I'm like, 513 00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:25.559 and it hit me at that moment, I'm like, what 514 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:26.440 God's name and. 515 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:30.519 Might doing want to hit myself into what? You know what? 516 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:34.279 I was like, wait, wait, I'm like they weren't joking 517 00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:37.240 in probably school, like I thought that this was all like, yeah, 518 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:39.839 you might do this once in your career, you know, 519 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:42.640 like maybe you know this was the real deal. 520 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:44.960 If it's really bad. You don't go in, don't worry 521 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:45.279 about it. 522 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:52.160 Yeah right, Well I remember is I just hung on 523 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:54.440 to the captain and I was like, I thought I 524 00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:55.400 was in Yankee Stadium. 525 00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:55.640 Man. 526 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:58.519 I thought like my god, I'm like, Hail Mary, full 527 00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:01.640 of grace, please, you know what am I doing? And 528 00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:03.960 I just hung onto the Captain's coat. I have no 529 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.759 idea what I did. I know the engine was already there, 530 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:07.960 forty one engine was there. 531 00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:09.759 And what type of building was it? 532 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:11.160 It was an H and not an H. It was 533 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:15.079 a five story tenement, right, and yeah, I mean it 534 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:16.319 was one room, one or two rooms. 535 00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:17.000 It was no big deal. 536 00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:18.839 But you know, the funny thing is I came back 537 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:22.960 twenty years later, same box, same apartment, same everything, and 538 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.759 I'm a captain and I'm like i get to the 539 00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:27.920 door and I'm looking in and I'm like there's one 540 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:30.039 room or whatever. I'm like, this is this was it? 541 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:30.559 You know? 542 00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:31.880 Well? 543 00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:34.480 I mean my brother said to me, I hope your 544 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:36.359 first job is just like a one or two room. 545 00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:38.440 You always said that, like you didn't get that job. 546 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:40.359 That was like, just gare the hell out of you? Yeah? 547 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:42.480 Yeah, the hell out of you? Where you know it 548 00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:43.960 takes you a long time to adjust. 549 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.519 So but you know it was crazy because it just 550 00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:49.440 hit the fan. After that, I got to the program. 551 00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:51.640 I got to the house in September, I guess sometime 552 00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:55.599 in September, and you know I had the can forever. 553 00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:58.079 And uh, you know, I work with guys like Billy Lawson, 554 00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:00.200 I mean lost in like I'm always working with Billy 555 00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:03.880 probably saved my life probably four or five times, and 556 00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.440 I mean just amazing stuff. But I can't like one 557 00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:12.559 night I we we had the first job was around 558 00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.079 change of tours. It was a towelded job, no big 559 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:19.440 deals on one full nine over by Bergen or Willis 560 00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.920 Willis maybe Willis somewhere over sat Hands or something tenement 561 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:23.960 fully involved. 562 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:24.119 You know. 563 00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:27.880 So were up in a bucket and so someone went sick, 564 00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:31.839 and so now me and Frank Simpson, you know Frank, 565 00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:35.799 Frank actually got he was at the store, so it 566 00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:37.319 was no big deal. It's just a vacant. So then 567 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.039 we come back and everything was wrong with I forgot 568 00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.200 to pull my boots up, you know. So I remember 569 00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:46.119 this guy, Billy Welsh, he had the same size as me, 570 00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:48.119 and he just bought a brand new pair of boots, 571 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:50.079 so like in the back of my mind it's like, oh, 572 00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:52.559 I'll wear Billy's boots, you know. So we get another 573 00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:56.920 box and it's on Alexander and one four one. It's 574 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:00.960 a Brownstone and fires in the basement, and the Tony 575 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.519 Alba is just stay for six hours. He's the captain. 576 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:06.720 He's the captain nineteen truck. He was a lieutenant twenty nine. 577 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.160 I mean, this guy like Callipie was in the engine. 578 00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:13.720 These guys were like just like like fire guys. I mean, 579 00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:15.960 they were just like I just revealed these guys, you know. 580 00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:18.960 So so me and Frank are on the inside. I 581 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:20.200 don't know if I had the can of the irons, 582 00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:23.200 and then Alva and then Kalipi went in before us, 583 00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:26.440 and I don't know what happened. But next thing I know, 584 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.039 Alvis grabbing the two of us and he says get out, 585 00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:31.319 and I'm like what he says? He grabs his get 586 00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:34.039 out and he throws us down the hallway and the 587 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:37.799 fire blows over a head and I'm like, what was that? 588 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:39.160 You know? 589 00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:41.319 And I don't want to get into the whole fire, 590 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:44.960 but you know, it flashed on us, you know, and uh, 591 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:47.279 I just remember i was wearing Billy's boots and I've 592 00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:53.400 got to pull them up and they were and I'm like, whoopsie, No, 593 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:56.039 I got explained to this guy, really that I just 594 00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:57.519 trans brand new blue chief. 595 00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:59.599 I was just gonna ask, out of three is who 596 00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.119 was the I who took the pressure off everybody? Now 597 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:03.799 I kind of maybe know who was. 598 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:13.960 Yeah, definitely looking it's just funny. Like like I began, 599 00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:16.119 I began to think this was normal, like all these 600 00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:19.000 near death experiences, you know, Like and then we had 601 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:21.599 another job, like on Christmas Eve, the three probabies are 602 00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:24.480 working and we got caught in a flash over again 603 00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:27.359 in a two story you know, private dwelling, I mean, Frank, 604 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:31.039 we had to bail out the window and uh, and 605 00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:35.480 then the collapses. I mean it seems like buildings will collapsing, 606 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:39.200 like not full collapses, but floors collapsing. I mean, this 607 00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:41.960 was just it was just part I just thought it 608 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.119 was normal. After a while, I was like, Okay, well 609 00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:44.720 this is normal. 610 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:47.720 You know, well maybe that's what gave you, you know, 611 00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.400 down the road when you when you were you lieutenant 612 00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:52.279 or a captain and he went to the same job 613 00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:54.640 and you were like, man, this is nothing. So I 614 00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:58.400 mean that those kind of experiences that make you cool. 615 00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:02.240 I was at in South the South Carolina a couple 616 00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:05.119 of days these last few days, and I ran it too. 617 00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:07.400 Like I told you, there was about three or four 618 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.640 companies that had twenty guys each fifty five and sixty 619 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:13.799 and seventeen had I don't know how many guys I 620 00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:17.160 had there. And every guy that I talked to, they said, 621 00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:18.759 it just stuck out to me what the chief just 622 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:21.640 said that that's and these are guys that are seventy 623 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:24.599 years old. They kept saying the same thing over and 624 00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:28.079 over again. They're like, I don't I worked with the 625 00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:32.720 best guys like I mean the best offices. I mean, 626 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.240 these guys knew fire like they just like these A 627 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:38.799 seventy year guy and this is probably the guys that 628 00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.720 the chiefs talking about talking about his guys. I mean, 629 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.680 that's how it just kept moving down the line, is 630 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.680 that they just kept passing on all this knowledge to 631 00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:50.400 the guys that he was. 632 00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:52.279 At consistent work all the time. 633 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:54.319 But it stuck out to me how he's like, bro, 634 00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:57.480 I work with the best guys that you could ever 635 00:30:57.519 --> 00:30:58.920 work with on the job, Like that's. 636 00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:01.599 What he comes guys were amazing. There was a guy 637 00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.960 Billy Stell's and like they actually, you know, they almost 638 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.240 like rewrote the books. I mean because they were doing 639 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.000 it so much, like you know, like guy Billy told me, 640 00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.960 he says, yeah, we replaced the acts with the Halligan 641 00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.160 for the ov or. Like they were just kind of 642 00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.160 fine tuning it as they were going, you know what 643 00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:21.720 I mean. They were so good at what they were. 644 00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:23.240 Forward thinking, thinking out of the box. 645 00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:26.680 Man, what do you think that chief? Do you think? 646 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.920 Like what was it like in seventy five over there? 647 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:32.680 Like it had to be absolutely insanity If you think 648 00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.000 it was insanity? What what did those guys think that was? 649 00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:35.599 At that point? 650 00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:37.599 They used to kid me because they knew that I 651 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:42.000 was a little into the job, let's say, for lack 652 00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:49.880 of a better word, you know, they would wipe me up. 653 00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:51.759 They'd be like, you know, you missed a kid. You 654 00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:55.039 should have been here ten years ago. And I'm like, fuck, 655 00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:58.079 you know, you. 656 00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:00.519 Know, I mean, while he's going to job, have the job. 657 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.680 Where did you get the name Spoky from? 658 00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:04.200 So? Probably school? 659 00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.599 Oh? I thought loss and said he gave you that name? 660 00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:13.559 Well yeah, he he perpetuated it all right, So what 661 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:18.279 happened was thirteen truck was relocated up to uh to us, 662 00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.440 you know, and because there were a towel add and 663 00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:27.000 Tommy Madden was in my proby class, and so anyway 664 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:31.240 he sees me and he goes smoky, and everybody in 665 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:33.720 seventeen truck was standing in and all everyone just went 666 00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:34.880 like this, like like. 667 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:38.960 What does spoky mean? 668 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:43.920 What do you think the pyro? He likes to like fire. 669 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:48.240 He told you about being a pyro. One day I'm 670 00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:50.119 at the house watch, right, and it was a guy 671 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:52.759 I don't I don't. He had a nickname. I don't 672 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:54.240 know if I should say his name. And he's dead now, 673 00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:58.400 God rest his soul. He used to drive the the 674 00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:03.039 Red Cross third, the Long Coffee truck or whatever up 675 00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:06.400 in the eighteen battalion, I guess. And he had a nickname, 676 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.920 and uh, I didn't believe it. I'm like anyway, but 677 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:11.839 it was unusual, you know, it was weird that he 678 00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.359 was always at these fires though, you know. And so 679 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.039 one day I'm on the watch. It's like two in 680 00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:18.160 the morning, and I got the doors open, I'm just 681 00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:21.599 hanging out and he comes by and he's like, hey, kid, 682 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.839 he said you're gonna be going to work. I'm like, what, 683 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.480 he goes, Yeah, you're gonna be going to work and whatever? Right, no, 684 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:29.400 sooner he said that. 685 00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:41.880 Dude will take it in. I always got a little 686 00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:42.480 flun with that. 687 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:49.160 It's like, you know, yeah, anyway, sure enough we pull 688 00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:53.960 up and it's top the bottom man, just really merrily. 689 00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:54.200 You know. 690 00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:56.160 I don't know, but it was. 691 00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:01.039 A different story, bro. I'm gonna play you what he 692 00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:05.279 showed me. You ready, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me speak to. 693 00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:08.079 Sparky Sparky Sparky de Klan. 694 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:13.400 How you doing, fruitcake man? Alright, this is Frank Frank 695 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.960 Frank riseol. Listen, I need you for a gig. Okay, 696 00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:19.239 what do you do? Backflips? You jump up there in 697 00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:20.320 a silly suit? What do you do? 698 00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:21.079 All right? 699 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:22.960 Okay her account for there. 700 00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:26.079 Well, it's gonna be like a little uh got a 701 00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:28.199 little scene going over here, a few people laying around 702 00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:29.800 the house and ship. It's gonna be like a little 703 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:31.199 funny thing. You can get involved that. 704 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:32.960 You want, but we want you to do some juggling, 705 00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:35.719 you know, trust, some fucking fire bombs up and all 706 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:36.119 that shit. 707 00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:37.119 I don't know, I. 708 00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:45.400 K it did happen like that loss and swize that's 709 00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:46.039 how what happened? 710 00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:47.440 Bros. 711 00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.039 Classic Colma. Oh my god. Every time I hear that, 712 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:53.400 I can't stop kills. 713 00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:57.599 Meseph picks us some seventeen. 714 00:34:57.639 --> 00:34:57.760 Bro. 715 00:34:57.840 --> 00:34:59.280 Let's go, let's talk about some five. 716 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:02.199 So we have one that he mentioned his first job. 717 00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:05.039 But I know he that was a bucket job. You 718 00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:06.679 know what's funny about this job. I have to tell 719 00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:09.079 you a story about this job. So we're at this fire. 720 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.000 It's on one hundred and fifteenth in Whales, right, and 721 00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:15.000 I guess it must have been the same year that 722 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:19.719 the Giants played the forty nine is in the Super Bowl, right, 723 00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.559 So anyway, I guess twenty nine truck had a bet 724 00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:28.199 with twenty nine truck in San Francisco. So anyway, the 725 00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:33.159 shirts never show the shirts never showed up. So we're 726 00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:37.000 walking around like everybody in the block is wearing San 727 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:42.400 Francisco Fire Department twenty nine truck shirts. So they stole 728 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:44.519 the shirts and him. They were all wearing them in 729 00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:45.440 the able. 730 00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:58.320 At least they weren't gold bars, rightly. 731 00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:01.000 Remember twenty nine was a towel added. You know that's 732 00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:05.800 awesome jogging all them. I don't know who took it. 733 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.280 But someone actually commented they saw me in the bucket 734 00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:11.079 and they're like, he's not wearing an air pack. If 735 00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.559 you were an airpack in that bucket in seventeen truck 736 00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:17.239 you have locked. It would be out in the street 737 00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:19.559 somewhere else. It was a policy. I mean, I hate 738 00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:21.239 to admit that, but that's how it was, you know. 739 00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:26.400 But we were just pulling. It was all these steel shutters. 740 00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:28.360 I was in. I was in a bucket with doctor 741 00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:33.079 Doom Eddie Cruz and we were taking the steel shutters off. 742 00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:34.679 It wasn't a towel lighter job, believe it or not. 743 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.119 We were just actually venting the top floor. Yeah, with 744 00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:38.679 the bucket. 745 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:41.639 Oh sorry, here we go. This is a good one. 746 00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:44.719 So that was actually I was in forty one for 747 00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.039 this one. It was a it was an RS box 748 00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:49.760 I think, and we came in. We put out three 749 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:54.000 floors of fire. We got a unicitation. Uh, Chris Levy 750 00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:56.760 had the nozzle for everyone had the nozzle. Buck guy 751 00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:00.440 wound up putting out the last two rooms. And it 752 00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:02.480 wasn't a towel looted job. It was an occupied building. 753 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:04.639 Tisa was the captain and I remember he said to me. 754 00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:07.320 I guess that I was like the last guy in 755 00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:10.039 the line. He says. He tells me, he goes go 756 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:12.599 out and get me water because we were having water 757 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:16.320 problems or whatever. Everyone was having water problems. So yeah, 758 00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:19.920 so I got out to al Gonzalez, I said, we 759 00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:20.440 need water. 760 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:24.199 Tom. 761 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.800 That's Tom Tom. I worked with Tom. He always had 762 00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.519 the OV I always had the can and every time 763 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.679 he worked, he made me drive the bucket and he 764 00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:35.679 tell me, get that as close as you can to 765 00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:39.679 the window, and he would just I mean then it's like, 766 00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.079 I'm surprised. We almost didn't go into the room. I mean, 767 00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:43.760 that's how how close we used to get to the 768 00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:45.960 And he was just he was just. 769 00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:47.480 A phenomenal farman. 770 00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:49.559 Tom. 771 00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:50.079 For sure. 772 00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:55.320 That was Rogers and Dawson, me and Gilligan in the bucket. 773 00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:57.199 I remember that job. I don't know why. I don't 774 00:37:57.320 --> 00:37:59.360 know why I remember that job. I guess because in 775 00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:01.199 the third time and I was, you know, right here 776 00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:01.960 in my fire house. 777 00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:06.000 It looks like hell's burning. 778 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.920 We melted the rig a few times. I remember one 779 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:14.079 time down down at the down on the market we 780 00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:16.320 had I don't know, it was like a paper factory. 781 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:19.519 It was like a thousand by one hundred and. 782 00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:22.000 We had to buy one hundred. 783 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.320 It was under the drag bridge. Yeah, right, the longest 784 00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:27.960 building you could imagine, you know. And we're underneath the bucket. 785 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:31.960 We're under the bridge. Christ I'm in the bucket with uh, 786 00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:35.920 I forget I was in the bucket with but Joe Kelly, 787 00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:38.480 the officer ever won the bucket. And then these pigeons 788 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:42.480 came out and all that tail feathers weren't firing. Kelly says, oh, look, 789 00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:48.599 flaming pigeons. They were worried about the bridge buckling because 790 00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.920 there was so much fire. And then yeah, so they 791 00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:55.519 had this stretch of line stixy, I forget who stretch line? 792 00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:57.480 And they had the holes down the rig while we 793 00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.159 were in the bucket trying to protect the bridge. 794 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:03.079 Nice all right. I think this is the last seventeen 795 00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:05.920 truck picture we have, so this is interesting. 796 00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.880 The soul was opening the roof the Soul was out 797 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:12.159 of service, so I had my axe. I just I 798 00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:13.519 just opened the roof of the axe. 799 00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.360 I think I think he's got more pictures of him marking, 800 00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:18.199 Like you always say to me, you're so assy, always 801 00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:18.639 so lucky. 802 00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:19.599 People taking a picture. 803 00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:21.159 I mean, who's taking a picture of a guy with 804 00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:21.760 an axe? 805 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.239 I'le pictures than me. 806 00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:29.360 So there you go. Actually I got him older here, Sorry, 807 00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:30.800 go back up a little bit. We got a little 808 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:32.320 oldie one here. Just throw this. 809 00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:35.719 They're random that that was like normal, I mean. 810 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.960 Normal, ten blows of fire whatever, It was no big deal. 811 00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:43.960 The funny thing is like, really the chiefs were just amazing, 812 00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.679 like guys like Visconti and Kilker and then the battalions 813 00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:51.119 in the sixteenth Kennedy and these guys. Uh, they were 814 00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.360 just like Hoover. I remember one time we had a 815 00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:56.159 job Timmy Kletk. We were talking about this the other day. 816 00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:56.960 Timmy was working. 817 00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:58.199 I saw him down there. 818 00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:01.599 I saw him down and Timmy was in sixty nine. 819 00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:04.599 I was in forty one. It was about five line stretch, 820 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.599 and Hoover was the chief and he's just like, okay, guys, 821 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.119 you know how you doing all right? Making good progress? 822 00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:13.239 I got burned. Timmy got burnt. I mean like it 823 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.840 was just normal, like no one throwing anything different about it. It 824 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:18.719 was on one hundred and forty third, he corrected me. 825 00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:20.840 It was on one hundred and forty third In convent. 826 00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:22.239 I think it was right down the block from sixty 827 00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:26.000 nine quarters the five. I think three companies got unicitations 828 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:26.599 at that fire. 829 00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:30.079 Wow, crazy nice coobs. I saw yesterday, was it not 830 00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:31.639 yesterday like last week? 831 00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:33.440 Well? 832 00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:35.760 I saw him down there with his wife. Yeah, he's great. 833 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:42.840 But I saw a picture on Facebook, and it's in 834 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.760 nineteen I don't know, let's say seventy eight, I don't remember, 835 00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:48.559 but it was in the seventies I think. And then 836 00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:50.840 they have a picture of it today in that same 837 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:55.360 spot and you're there in like let's say seventy eight eighty, 838 00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:58.599 and all you see in the back it's like rubble, rubble, rubber, 839 00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.280 rubble for block after that looks like a mile two 840 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.079 miles rubble. And then you see like the end of 841 00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.360 the earth, an H and H standing there but vacant, right. 842 00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:10.159 And then they take the picture today and all you 843 00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:13.039 see is like little like one story houses, like little 844 00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:16.280 like little houses, like like you can't even believe how 845 00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:18.960 what that looked like. Then those people have no idea 846 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:20.199 what it looked like, you know what I mean, they're 847 00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.320 living in this house, you know more when they'll post 848 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.239 a stamp and everything, and they have no idea what 849 00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:25.360 was going on over it was war. 850 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:28.360 Yeah, two places I worked in seventeen. If you one 851 00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.519 hundred and thirty eighth Street between Willison Brook, if you 852 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:33.599 looked up to one four nine, exactly what you said, 853 00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:36.480 and today it's old houses. And then on one hundred 854 00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:38.760 and sixteenth up to one hundred and twenty fifth between 855 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.199 Madison and Park it was the same thing. Just really 856 00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:47.280 building building, you know, just burned out. It was rubble. 857 00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:48.920 You look, if you go back to look at the 858 00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:52.679 old pictures, like you'll see burnt out houses and burnt 859 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.280 out cause and the kids it's like a playground. They're 860 00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:57.800 playing in the burnt out call, jumping out the windows 861 00:41:57.800 --> 00:41:58.199 on the field. 862 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.840 And I remember when Seat Town burnt by us. I remember, 863 00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:02.840 I don't know if you would have. I remember being 864 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.519 in the Seat Town like like the chief said about 865 00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:08.400 that smell. I remember smelling that in the Seat Town, 866 00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:10.360 like we were walking around in there. The water was there, 867 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:10.760 you know. 868 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:12.719 Yeah, my father worked that job. 869 00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.079 That the old time is said that on one hundred 870 00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.800 and foy third Street, that the rigs would be lined 871 00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:28.280 up down the block. It would be five or six 872 00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.440 rigs just lined up waiting and they were just if 873 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:33.679 you stood on the roof of the firehouse, all you 874 00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:37.119 saw was if you look south or if you looked 875 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.440 east or north, what you saw was the smoke coming 876 00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:42.960 off the tops of the buildings. Like that's what this 877 00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:43.679 was every day. 878 00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:46.119 The busiest night that you can recall. 879 00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:49.559 All right, the busiest night was actually when I was 880 00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.360 in forty one. We had seven jobs one night and 881 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.519 we went back to the same buildings twice. 882 00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:57.480 Allegedly. 883 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:06.239 No re kindles in the service. Yeah, restarted, I like that. 884 00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.840 So you went from eighty six to ninety one and seventeen, 885 00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:11.800 and then you went to well it was it was 886 00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:13.519 it a squad. Then it was just forty. 887 00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:15.480 One just had turned in May of eighty eight. It 888 00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:17.719 closed as an engine company and it was a big 889 00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:18.440 you know, it was. 890 00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:19.840 A bush back in the community. 891 00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:22.800 Yeah, and then they compromised and they made it the 892 00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:27.480 enhanced engine. And I do remember the borough command to 893 00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.000 come into our court is one time I forget the 894 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:33.840 guy's name and satus down. He says, listen, we're going 895 00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:36.199 to put a rescue six in the south Bronx. 896 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:38.079 And then it. 897 00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:41.360 Disappeared because then they closed forty one. They opened the 898 00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:44.280 firehouse up on Melrose and they were going to put 899 00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.760 forty in forty one in with fifty five, but then 900 00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:49.519 seventy one came. They closed the fireouse up on Park. 901 00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:50.199 And won five to nine. 902 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.599 They opened up one, five, six and Melrose and then 903 00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:58.599 we're going to close forty one. All it all hit 904 00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.719 the fan. Then they I on this enhanced engine. So 905 00:44:03.639 --> 00:44:05.840 I was the second wave. There was the first wave. 906 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:09.639 Hand pick guys. They all went right. There was another wave, 907 00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:13.719 and I was in that group with guys like Joe Gandiello, 908 00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:20.920 John Ciderella, uh, Pete McLaughlin, John Buck Guy, uh wow, 909 00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:21.360 so many. 910 00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:22.280 Originally you know, it was. 911 00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:28.400 Sorry, soon someone came a few months later. He came 912 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:32.199 from fifty five fifty eight. Some of the guys were 913 00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:36.480 trickling in, showing Genevieve's Kevin Murphy. You know, the guys 914 00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.079 started trickling in and then it was like a hardcore 915 00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:40.599 original guys like Bobby Hamilton. 916 00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:44.000 Guy, I loved him. That was my he was my neighbor, my. 917 00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:49.159 Brother, God bless him. He was the Sultan too, right, 918 00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:54.400 big barrel chest, yeah yeah, yeah. He didn't grow since 919 00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:57.760 fourth grade, Like he was the same size. 920 00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:00.800 When did you start thinking of out going to forty 921 00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:02.480 one when they when they became. 922 00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:05.840 A kind of I think a lot of guys were 923 00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:09.599 interested in going, but it was already done. The deal 924 00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:12.199 was done, so none of us really knew about it. 925 00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:13.280 And then. 926 00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:16.559 I remember speaking to the captain. It was a night 927 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:19.360 that Billy lost and saved my life. We were we 928 00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:23.000 had a job on Courtland and one four six, and 929 00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:25.760 that was the night that trainer went down and we 930 00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:29.239 got him out and uh, Billy grabs me. He says, 931 00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.559 Fucky just don't feel right. He grabs me, and like 932 00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:35.480 the whole thing just collapsed. But I tooke to the captain, 933 00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:37.280 wasn't Keenan at the time, and I said, you know, 934 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:39.920 I'm kind of interested in forty one and he says, yeah, 935 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:43.920 it was November of not ninety because it was right 936 00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:47.519 before my daughter was born. So yeah. And then and 937 00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:49.840 then I wound up going there on a detail in 938 00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:52.880 ninety one and like August just it was supposed to 939 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:54.519 be like a six week detail and I wound up 940 00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:54.960 staying there. 941 00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:58.000 What was deal with them? What was the at that 942 00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:00.079 time when they go into they had first two, Bob. 943 00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:03.519 And then they were going to first first, second and third, boxes, 944 00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:08.639 the whole thing, and then anything like old Hands in 945 00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.679 the twelfth, the sixteenth, the seventeenth, the third, the two 946 00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:17.079 six you know up to like the Cross Bronx. We 947 00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:17.679 were a squad. 948 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.119 So they were going to a ton of work. Yeah, 949 00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:23.159 it was busy. Yeah, was Clee House there. 950 00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:24.519 He had just left. 951 00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:25.880 Jack he just left. 952 00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:34.800 Yeahs Teaso was the captain, Steve Garrity, John Carroll, Dennis Maranshack. Yeah, 953 00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.719 so that picks. That's Ny Reagan. He went to rescue 954 00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:42.719 three poly som and you know Salty, Ralph Teazo myself. 955 00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.159 So you guys just had an engine. Did you have 956 00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:48.280 anything else? You had truck tools? I guess that's it. 957 00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:51.440 We had everything. We destroyed that rig. Teaso somehow he 958 00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:53.719 squared of that rig because we got it from eighty 959 00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:56.800 nine engine. We swapped with them, and he wanted that 960 00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:00.639 engine for some reason. And we had had loaded up 961 00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:03.280 with boxes everywhere. We had boxes on the roof or whatever. 962 00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:05.079 And I would say, it looks like it has some 963 00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:09.119 good storage space, would be my initial thought on what 964 00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:09.559 he's like. 965 00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:11.119 The pus is a mac man. You can't go wrong 966 00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:11.639 with those things. 967 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.599 Tommy has used to drive Tommy used to drive that 968 00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:15.719 like a like a race car. 969 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:18.599 He's scared to say. Those reads were fast. 970 00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:18.840 Man. 971 00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:22.719 Yeah, the police owned the pilot. Man. He used to ride. 972 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.320 He used to drive that thing like it was a captain. 973 00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:26.639 One time, Jeane down. 974 00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:27.519 Like he stole it. 975 00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:29.719 He got out of the rig one time. He says, 976 00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:32.840 I've been a captain a long time. He says, that's 977 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:40.159 the that's the Harrius ride I've had in my life. 978 00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:40.760 Exactly. 979 00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:45.119 Well, I always say this, it's scary but in control, 980 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:47.559 and then they're scary and out of control, you know. 981 00:47:48.039 --> 00:47:50.119 You know, drove like that one time in two eighty eight. 982 00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:52.800 I would say, We're on the Grand Central going out 983 00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:55.400 to Corona, and I was just like Brian. 984 00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:04.800 Out of controls one thing, driving fast and he that's 985 00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.000 a good thing. Yeah, he was a good show. He 986 00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:07.880 was actually a good show. 987 00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:08.760 I love that. 988 00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:11.599 We had my house one time and oh my god, 989 00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:12.039 he's just. 990 00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:14.079 Crazy. 991 00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:15.280 I love the guy. 992 00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:18.000 Quickie, on the other hand, might have been God rest 993 00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:18.360 is soul. 994 00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:20.119 Oh my god, dude. 995 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.719 He was getting there. We lost you know, Hose was 996 00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:24.880 fucking laying in the Allegian. 997 00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:31.360 We ran into the back of Rescue four's rigged one time. 998 00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.119 I just told the I told the story to uh uh, 999 00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:37.960 I forget who the hell I was telling. He was 1000 00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.400 a boss of ninety two. I said, were you at 1001 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.159 the job where Quickie made the left turn? I was 1002 00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:44.639 on the rig where I saw the fire coming out 1003 00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:46.519 the back of the window, and all we had to 1004 00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:47.840 do is make a right and a right. We were 1005 00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:50.039 going to be that first two and Quickie made. 1006 00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:51.760 A left and we're like. 1007 00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:53.360 You go on the wrong way. We get up the rig. 1008 00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:55.920 We're backing up. Two ninety two comes makes a left 1009 00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:57.840 and the right, and all I hear on the radio 1010 00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:01.920 is seventy five. Yeah, ship right on my birthday cake. 1011 00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:05.159 We will go to sunny side, sundy side, right by you. 1012 00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:08.119 And then Rescue four's rig and quick striving and he's 1013 00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:10.559 fucking flying you. All of a sudden, I see the 1014 00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:13.159 four on the back of the Rescue falls rig. This 1015 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:20.239 swall and then it's getting close and holy shit, Rescue Force. 1016 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:26.039 Allegedly that actually didn't happen. You had a dream about that. 1017 00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:30.119 This is all allegedly. Fella. 1018 00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:33.599 You go and study you're forty one for a while. 1019 00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:35.679 I must catch a hell of a lot of work there, man. 1020 00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.559 You know that in that company what twenty single end 1021 00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:41.719 single company. Nine guys got promoted off that list. 1022 00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:44.360 Wow, but you guys did a lot of first do 1023 00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:45.119 work there too. 1024 00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.920 Absolutely, we didn't do a lot of first to work. 1025 00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:50.480 I have such a small area there, right, we had we. 1026 00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.239 Had a post stand. Yeah, yeah, it's a small area. 1027 00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:55.960 That was the squad job that was on Watson and Ward, 1028 00:49:56.719 --> 00:50:00.280 and there was a ton of fire. It was a 1029 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:04.159 taxpayer flat, fixed place. Whatever. We weren't exposure and we 1030 00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:06.280 actually worked as an engine at this job and we 1031 00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:07.800 actually kept the fire out of the building. 1032 00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:11.320 Hey, Rough, I'm beginning to think that I know where 1033 00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:13.480 you got the name Sparky from because every picture that 1034 00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:14.480 plays that's watching. 1035 00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:15.760 And yeah, we had a line. 1036 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:19.519 I think it was about seventeen hundred hours on a 1037 00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:20.840 sunny day in May. 1038 00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:22.360 And remember everything. 1039 00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:26.320 Who's five in the morning, but who's I'll. 1040 00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:27.760 Tell you what thing That area is still the af 1041 00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.000 pit of the earth over there by forty one in 1042 00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:31.320 a freaking bed still. 1043 00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:36.360 I covered their UFO in UH ninety six engine for 1044 00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:38.079 a year. I loved that firehouse. 1045 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.760 I mean it was just I worked there a few times. 1046 00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:42.079 It was a great guys. 1047 00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:45.119 Great problem is they do a lot of ems. Now 1048 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:47.760 you got take with the bed. Yeah, I got it. 1049 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:51.239 I got So you're there to what ninety five? 1050 00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:54.039 So you put forty uh ninety one to ninety five, 1051 00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:55.039 you're in forty one. 1052 00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:57.400 Right, Yeah, just four years I got. I got promote. 1053 00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:58.239 We all got promoted. 1054 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:01.119 Who does something like that? Silly stuff like that? So 1055 00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:04.400 you get promoted, you come back to Sock as a lieutenant. 1056 00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:05.840 Yeah, I spelled down. 1057 00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:09.960 To your bout. Yeah, those spots opened or what was. 1058 00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.159 They made the squads And then I don't want to 1059 00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:16.800 get into the whole story. I just was, you know what, 1060 00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:18.920 I didn't want to repeat of you know, I just 1061 00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.679 I was getting frustrated with things, and I just said, 1062 00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:25.559 I just want to normalize my life. I had little kids. 1063 00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:27.760 Now I had you know, my daughters were being born, 1064 00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:29.400 and so I just. 1065 00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:33.119 That's a big commitment, man. You know you have to comment. Yeah, 1066 00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:35.960 you have to go to the training all over the country. 1067 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.320 You got to constantly get trained on has matt and 1068 00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:40.360 high angle and big commitment. 1069 00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:41.519 People don't realize it, man. 1070 00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:44.199 Yeah, So so I wound up. I wound up going 1071 00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:49.159 to fifty eight engine and yeah that let me tell you, 1072 00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:53.840 as engine companies go, I've never seen much better than 1073 00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:55.880 Engine fifty eight. Some of the guys there were just 1074 00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:59.280 off the charts, you know, they were just you know, 1075 00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:01.719 this is different about like I was in a truck 1076 00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:04.199 and then I was in the squad, but you know, 1077 00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:06.760 I didn't really know about the engine until I became 1078 00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:10.440 a lieutenant. And there's a whole different vibe being in 1079 00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:14.000 an engine like as as especially as a boss, you 1080 00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:17.960 feel like like it's like a thread there that you're connected, 1081 00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:20.000 you know, like you do anything for these guys like 1082 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.199 you do with your kids, you know, like you would 1083 00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:24.320 go through fire for these guys, you know, and they 1084 00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:26.719 do the same for you, you know. And I've seen 1085 00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:29.639 these guys. I mean I've seen the fires these guys 1086 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.000 put out, and I just like wow, That's all I 1087 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:36.800 could say. It's just wow, you know, because the tenacity 1088 00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:38.280 was unbelievable. 1089 00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:42.280 In that place. I came with Bobby Keneally. Bobby was 1090 00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:44.920 yet Yeah, he's still doing it, he's still teaching it. 1091 00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:46.920 The ride. I think he's still an engine. How that 1092 00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:50.000 got on the job now he got on a ninety three. 1093 00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:52.880 Bobby's in that picture that I sent to fifty eight 1094 00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.960 Bobby's in that one picture. That job we had one 1095 00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:57.639 hundred and ten. 1096 00:52:57.599 --> 00:52:59.320 Thirty thirty two years. 1097 00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:05.400 It's amazing. Yeah, Bobby, his dad South Canally working this one. 1098 00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.360 Yeah, so this is what that man. 1099 00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:11.119 Wow. Yeah, So here's a good story about this fire. 1100 00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:14.519 So Greg is my show for Greg Park, Scottie Pascal Witz, 1101 00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.039 Chris McLaughlin and Chris Engel. Drum, God rest his soul. 1102 00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:18.679 He got killed in Afghanistan. 1103 00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:21.480 So he's just kneeling right angle drum. 1104 00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:25.280 Yeah, I take him not to go back to Afghanistan. 1105 00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:28.800 But anyway, we get a box for one hundred and 1106 00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:32.400 sixteenth in Lennox about two three o'clock in the morning, 1107 00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:35.400 and it's you know, it's always the same E R 1108 00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.840 S no contact right, So you know typical what I 1109 00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:41.159 like to do is I'm I'm always listening to the radio, 1110 00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:43.280 and I hear as soon as I hear, you know, 1111 00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:45.960 Manhattan Box one way, as soon as I hear the 1112 00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:49.320 one the three, I'm like, oh ship, you know, that's 1113 00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.840 that's our area, you know. And then they getting on 1114 00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:55.599 the radio all right, Manhattan Battalion one one. We'll get 1115 00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:58.480 numerous calls, uh, And I said, oh shoot, you know 1116 00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:04.880 we're going this that's a job, you know. And anyways, uh, 1117 00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:06.519 we got to about one hundred and twelve Street and 1118 00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:08.800 I looked at Greg, I said, Greg, turned the rig around. 1119 00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:11.559 I got on the radio Angine five eight Manhattan. I said, 1120 00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:14.039 we're available for the for that box is you know, 1121 00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:16.519 I take it into your first two box. What's what's what? 1122 00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:19.599 What's the one hundred Lenox in one hundred sixteen ten 1123 00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:20.079 nine two? 1124 00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:24.719 Yeah? Yeah, yeah. 1125 00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:27.159 I turn around on Lenox. We're going south to get 1126 00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:28.840 one hundred and tenth street. The park is there, and 1127 00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:32.360 make a right and we get up to about seventh 1128 00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:37.599 Avenue and I look and the fire escape is jam packed, 1129 00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:41.239 you know. And so Greg stops and Greg, what are 1130 00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:42.760 you doing? He goes, where's the where are we going? 1131 00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:44.719 I said, Greg, the building with all the people on. 1132 00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:47.440 The fire over there, the one that's on fire. 1133 00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:51.280 No, the file isn't showing. But so I guess from 1134 00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:53.480 his spot, he couldn't see the fire escape, you know, 1135 00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:56.480 because the trees were in away. So anyway, I grabbed 1136 00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:59.000 the hydrant, I jumped off the rig, and I get 1137 00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:02.039 into the lobby in this wi wall of fire. I mean, 1138 00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:04.320 it was just like I thought it was an outside 1139 00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:07.199 fire that had come into the you know, into the 1140 00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:10.480 into the lobby, you know. So I was about to 1141 00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:12.280 get on the radio and I was like, all right, 1142 00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:14.039 started two and a half and I and it's Chris 1143 00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:16.519 McGlaughlin with the inch in three cord. A big Chris. 1144 00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.320 He's about six or five, about two hundred and fifty pounds. 1145 00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:20.920 It looked like a little garden hose in his hands. 1146 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:23.280 Green light water. 1147 00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:26.239 That's the guy I want to get behind. 1148 00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:28.880 Yeah, you bro. 1149 00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:31.719 They just crushed it. It turned out it was an 1150 00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:34.199 apartment with the door left open. The fire had gone 1151 00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:37.880 up bolt stair was unfortunately had some fatalities, and the 1152 00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:39.840 guys did an amazing job. There was a kid from 1153 00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:41.960 twenty six truck. He was like less than a year 1154 00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:44.760 and a job. He had the roof. I mean, they 1155 00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:48.480 just did an amazing job. Cassano showed up and he 1156 00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:50.400 didn't really know me at the time. He just looked 1157 00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.639 at me and says he was just a dumbfounded. He 1158 00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:56.679 said wow. He's like wow, I mean that that amount 1159 00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:58.079 of fire that they put out with that one inch 1160 00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:00.159 in three quarter and we pushed it back into the 1161 00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:04.239 apartment and that was it. And the funny thing is 1162 00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:05.960 right the next day, so I don't know how it 1163 00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:09.960 turned out. My daughter Christine, so this is two thousand, 1164 00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:14.440 she was probably about six maybe, and uh so I'm 1165 00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:18.840 thinking like, oh, when we show what daddy does. So anyway, 1166 00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:20.840 so we stop off and said Christy, and I want 1167 00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:22.280 to show you. You know, this is what daddy does 1168 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:31.039 for a living. You know, she still has nightmares today. Still, Daddy, 1169 00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:33.440 why did you bring me into that building? I still 1170 00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:37.559 have nightmares over that. 1171 00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:41.800 That's a great house man. That's uh, it was one 1172 00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:43.840 hundred and ten hundred and fifth is that one. 1173 00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:45.599 Hundred twelve hundred and fifteenth right in the middle of 1174 00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:50.360 the projects fifth Avenue. We covered river to river. So yeah, 1175 00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:54.920 just great guys, great great firemen. I mean just phenomenal guys. 1176 00:56:56.800 --> 00:56:58.559 Yeah, you got the pictures from their. 1177 00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:00.679 Guns to pull some up. 1178 00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:02.039 That was the only one that we have from fifty 1179 00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:04.119 that's the only one for fifty eight engine. 1180 00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:09.480 So yeah, so but we have I have this one 1181 00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:12.800 as well. So that's that's seventeen. 1182 00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:16.039 You see this lieutenant here, Frankogrady, right, he was in 1183 00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:18.719 forty two truck. He was there during the warriors. So 1184 00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:22.599 that speakman and oak right, So we had a job. 1185 00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:26.760 I guess it was a top flow of fire as 1186 00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:30.199 usual or whatever. And then so we're a towel ladder. 1187 00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:34.480 Twenty nine is a tower ladder. So I got the 1188 00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:36.400 roof and now I'm trying to get to the roof 1189 00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:39.079 and it's like, you know, it's like the slow boat 1190 00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:39.519 to China. 1191 00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:39.760 Right. 1192 00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:41.280 So I'm trying to get up to the roof. And 1193 00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:45.039 now I could see the the waters out the windows, 1194 00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:46.880 and you know, they got the fire knocked down, and 1195 00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:48.360 I'm still trying to get to the roof, you know, 1196 00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:52.239 to do my job. So anyway, because it was like 1197 00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.320 kind of an isolated building like Exposure four had an 1198 00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:58.440 alley and two had an alley, so really the only 1199 00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:02.320 way was the bucket. Right. So anyway, after the fire, 1200 00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:05.280 you know, we're talking about it and Frank says, he goes, 1201 00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:07.159 you know, I used to live in this building when 1202 00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:09.199 I was a kid. I said, oh yeah, he goes, Yeah, 1203 00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:11.159 when we were kids, we used to jump the roofs, 1204 00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:12.880 you know, and I grew up in a city. I 1205 00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:14.719 used to play on the roofs. 1206 00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:15.239 I mean, as. 1207 00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:18.000 We we did, you know, we walked the parapets. I 1208 00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:20.400 mean climbed on the bulkheads. I mean that's what we did. 1209 00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.320 So anyway, so sure enough, the next set of tours, 1210 00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:27.159 we're back to the same building, same thing, top floor fire. 1211 00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:31.239 So I'm like, hmm, so you know when you had 1212 00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:33.079 the roof, you didn't wear the rubber boots. You wear 1213 00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:36.639 the you know, black boots and the coat and to 1214 00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:40.400 see helmet. So anyway, so I'm in the I said, 1215 00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:42.480 I'll just jump it, you know. So I get into 1216 00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:44.679 I go into exposure for and I'm in a building 1217 00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:48.079 and this woman she's like, yo, mister fireman, you're in 1218 00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:53.960 the wrong building. I said, I know, I want to 1219 00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:55.000 see something really cool. 1220 00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:55.800 Come here, watch this. 1221 00:58:56.440 --> 00:58:59.559 I get to the roof. It's like like a six 1222 00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:03.360 foot whatever. So I take my hell again, I toss 1223 00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:06.119 it and I just jumped and I just you know, 1224 00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:08.679 I landed on the roof. I popped the bulkhead or whatever. 1225 00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:13.559 And then after after woods, you know, like fire is 1226 00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:15.199 all knocked down and we're in the street. No Grady 1227 00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:17.519 looks at me. He goes, he goes, damn, how'd you 1228 00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:19.519 get to the roof? And I said, I did what 1229 00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:25.719 you told me. He said, you do what? I jumped 1230 00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:26.400 the roof. 1231 00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:27.199 He's like, what. 1232 00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:31.119 He did? 1233 00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:35.760 What? What do you wind up studying again? 1234 00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:39.760 Yeah, you go to show that Jimmy. 1235 00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:42.800 I think it was like Jimmy McNamara. I can't tell. 1236 00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:47.119 It looks like Jimmy. Jimmy's from my neighborhood. He's a 1237 00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:49.079 woodside guy. He's like to see you. I kind of 1238 00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:53.920 recruited him for twenty six Sucks. He's a great basketball player, 1239 00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:55.599 phenomenal basketball player. 1240 00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:57.559 You know what, I forgot to ask you, how did 1241 00:59:57.559 --> 01:00:00.280 you get Rice over the seventeen? He said that you 1242 01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:02.239 were responsible for getting him over the seventeen. 1243 01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:04.840 I talked to somebody I forget we got him over? 1244 01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:06.519 I forget. 1245 01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:14.239 Rhymes with von Essen. I think he said, I don't know. 1246 01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:14.599 You could sneeze it if you want. 1247 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:21.679 Yeah, he's the coolest cat, you know, like he's just 1248 01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:22.760 like nothing bothers that guy. 1249 01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:25.199 Nah, he's like a surfer dude or something like. Hey, 1250 01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:27.159 you know, I see him all over the I see 1251 01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:28.239 him in the gym and we went. 1252 01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:30.119 You know, he used to call him Chief when we 1253 01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:32.519 were kids because he looked like one flow over cookies 1254 01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:33.599 and who like Chief. 1255 01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:35.599 Chief. 1256 01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:40.599 No, that's awesome, that's great, all right, so you go 1257 01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:44.000 with study now and you get promoted to captain. 1258 01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:47.679 Yeah, Roffy, he winds up in another busy place. 1259 01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:49.440 I don't know how. I know he keeps landing on 1260 01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:51.079 his feet. I don't know what's going on, you. 1261 01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:53.039 Know what I mean. He's very rocky as my you know, 1262 01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:54.280 my wife would say, very rocky. 1263 01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:56.039 Oh you walk out, you walk out. 1264 01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:58.079 He's a rocky to two thousand and three to two 1265 01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:00.159 thousand and eight, You captain of forty six. 1266 01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.400 Engine, Yeah, I was. I was there. I was a 1267 01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:05.239 year in ninety six, and then the captain came back, 1268 01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:07.320 so then I went right to forty six and that 1269 01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:08.519 I loved that fire house. 1270 01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:09.079 I mean. 1271 01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:13.199 That that was just the greatest bunch of guys I see, 1272 01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:15.880 you know, you just the bond is unbelievable with the engine. 1273 01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:18.760 You know, it was kind of cool because I literally 1274 01:01:18.760 --> 01:01:21.119 had the best offices that the captain could have. I 1275 01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:25.400 had Jack Mehra, I had John McGann, and I had 1276 01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:30.079 what's his name, Rudy Rudy Goop. And I'd come to 1277 01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:34.119 work and just sitting the recliner and came back and 1278 01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:36.199 I look over the truck side and I won't mention 1279 01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:39.360 any names but it's like the man scientist, you know, 1280 01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:44.039 you know, and it's like the engine was just like 1281 01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:47.440 you know, like Jay Reener and Danny Richter and Wojoe 1282 01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:50.760 and these guys. He's just like it was just so chill. 1283 01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:52.679 I mean it was just like, yeah, a good set 1284 01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:54.880 of senior man, the good set of offices. 1285 01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:56.599 Just a great mix you know in the engine and 1286 01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:00.239 like just really solid. And Jack, I mean, what can 1287 01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:02.679 you say about Jack Mayra. I mean the guy was 1288 01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:06.519 just like like father Jack, you know, and guys listened 1289 01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.199 to him. It's just like you didn't have to you 1290 01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:09.760 just had to show up. It was like the kind 1291 01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:10.960 of place you just showed up, you know. 1292 01:02:11.679 --> 01:02:11.840 Right. 1293 01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:14.599 It just ran it at the place right off of 1294 01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:18.360 the Cross Cross Bronx, right you see the Cross Bronx. 1295 01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:18.880 Yeah. 1296 01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:23.119 Yeah, so we had we one of you know, one 1297 01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:25.000 of the most I guess, you know, I don't want 1298 01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:26.400 to tell a million five stories, but it was a 1299 01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:30.599 good job. You got a picture of it, the one 1300 01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:36.599 ad on and Wash, the one staying to me to 1301 01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:40.440 me eighty eight. No, that's a different job. 1302 01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:41.679 That's what different. 1303 01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:43.159 I'm more fin I don't worry about that. We'll get that. 1304 01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:47.559 Uh ship refreshment. 1305 01:02:48.719 --> 01:02:49.840 Five vacant buildings. 1306 01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:54.239 Okay, we have it's a really big fire guns, scary. 1307 01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:57.960 One, but we have them. We have this one. 1308 01:02:58.400 --> 01:02:59.440 No, that's that's back. 1309 01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:05.800 This was your all hands fire? Is it? 1310 01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:07.000 This one? 1311 01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:07.840 God? 1312 01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:08.320 Damn it? 1313 01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:11.920 Hell god, I could have fallen. 1314 01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:12.679 I labeled it. 1315 01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:16.480 But maybe you get it together, Pete washing. 1316 01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:21.199 Because you have we did the we went. No, I 1317 01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:21.840 don't think we have. 1318 01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:25.880 Uh no, actually do it? Not gonna do it? 1319 01:03:26.159 --> 01:03:29.639 No, not another one. Yeah, I thought you had your heart. 1320 01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:31.360 More scary fires and you can chase. 1321 01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:34.559 Yeah, I'm trying to. That's why we have so many 1322 01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:35.559 to pick from now. 1323 01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:36.480 The pressure is on them. 1324 01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:40.280 It's not part of your remote tactical right. 1325 01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:41.559 No, No, it. 1326 01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:43.960 Was like five. 1327 01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:46.159 Do it. 1328 01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:49.360 No, these are all the harder ones that we have. 1329 01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.400 You showed it to me before, but it's whatever they 1330 01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:55.280 don't about it, Pete. 1331 01:03:56.920 --> 01:03:59.239 I showed every damn good job. We haven't. 1332 01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:01.320 It's gonna come up. You gotta find it. 1333 01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:03.800 That's what happened. I should I showed every one of them. 1334 01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:06.199 That's all we have. I mean, I'll go through one 1335 01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:07.920 more time to make sure you got the vacant. We 1336 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:11.639 have the exterior job wasn't it. We have the one 1337 01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:14.280 you you didn't want to mention we delivered deleted if 1338 01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:15.159 you remember, that might have been. 1339 01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:17.360 So that's that was the one that was the one deleted. 1340 01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:19.719 Yeah, it's that important, you know. 1341 01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:24.320 So we got chief shows some ship up here and 1342 01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:27.639 then I'll storry about good. 1343 01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:29.079 Don't worry about it right there. 1344 01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:30.039 Oh the clip on. 1345 01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:34.920 You made the one with the four or five buildings 1346 01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:35.559 that we said. 1347 01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:41.159 Oh yeah, okay, So I put myself together. 1348 01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:41.440 Baby. 1349 01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:46.280 So timmy's working, he's working an eighty eight engine. I'm working. 1350 01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:48.880 So the first time we come there, I think it 1351 01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:51.559 was the white building, the one in the middle, and 1352 01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:54.280 it was maybe one or two floors going, you know, 1353 01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:57.039 and it's one of those boxes that if you pull 1354 01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:59.119 one side of the street, it's their first two and 1355 01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:00.760 if you pull the other side, we're first to him. 1356 01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:02.960 So we pull up and we're like nose to nose 1357 01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.440 and I'm like, Timmy, you take it. She was, you know, 1358 01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:09.519 your first to want a ticket, and uh so we 1359 01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:11.400 have to the fire, you know. We looked at each 1360 01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:13.079 other and we said we're going to be back, you know. 1361 01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:15.280 So sure enough, the next I think it was the 1362 01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:19.519 next set of tours. So we get relocated at like 1363 01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:23.599 four o'clock in the afternoon to a battalion where the 1364 01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:29.119 chief sometimes gets a little bit over zealous and maybe 1365 01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:30.320 exaggerates a little bit. 1366 01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:32.800 And he's not a screamer, is he. 1367 01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:36.440 Now, he's not a screamer, but he just tends to 1368 01:05:37.760 --> 01:05:39.800 embellish things a little bit. So, you know, we go 1369 01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:42.599 up to this other company and we're relocated there. I'm 1370 01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:46.280 not happy about it. So anyway, they come back, it 1371 01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:50.840 was nothing as usual whatever. And then again I told 1372 01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:52.840 my show for Jay Reen. I said, Jay, do me 1373 01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:56.280 a favor. Let's take Webster down. So we took Webster down. 1374 01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:58.079 I never do that. I normally jump on a Bronx 1375 01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:00.760 river or whatever. So I said, let's take Webster down. 1376 01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:05.079 So we take Webster down and then I get it 1377 01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:08.039 gets about Bedford Park Boulevard and I hear the dispatcher. 1378 01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:12.360 I think it was the beef. He's like, uh, bronched 1379 01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:16.599 the battalion one nine. We're getting numerous calls. Uh, you're 1380 01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:20.239 going to work and uh so Timmy's an eighty eight engine, right, 1381 01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:23.320 and it's like a second on arrival. I think it 1382 01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:27.280 was like almost with urlam. Immediately so I get on 1383 01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:29.960 the radio. I'm like, uh yeah, engine four six were available, 1384 01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:30.639 and he says were are. 1385 01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:35.800 I am like, yeah, we're closed. Where do you think 1386 01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:39.039 we are? Of course we're around the block. 1387 01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:38.800 Taking it in. 1388 01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:41.159 So anyway, we get there and the chiefs in front 1389 01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:43.119 of the building goes, Danny goes, pick a building in 1390 01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:46.079 any building, you know. So I'm like, so I I 1391 01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:50.880 picked the maybe exposure to a whatever it was, you know. 1392 01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:52.119 And uh. 1393 01:06:52.480 --> 01:06:54.559 I get in there, and I mean, it was just 1394 01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:57.800 amazing amount of fire. And I have to tell you, 1395 01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:00.239 this is almost like a teaching point, and I'll I'll 1396 01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:03.400 admit the mistakes that I made. So I told my 1397 01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:05.480 guys is you just wait here with the line. I 1398 01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:07.199 just want to see what's going on. So I went 1399 01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:09.320 up and I'm this is the mistake I made. I 1400 01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:12.800 was with other people, guys from rescue from another truck company, 1401 01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:16.559 and I looked out the So I'm in this blue 1402 01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:20.000 building right here, this blue front, and I looked to 1403 01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:22.400 the right and all I see is orange and the 1404 01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:26.239 bathroom is got a little fire in it. So I'm like, ah, 1405 01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:29.039 it's fine, So I ignore it. I go up to 1406 01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:31.599 the third floor. I get to the top floor, and 1407 01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:34.440 I'm like right down on my belly, like you know, 1408 01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:37.440 I just like it was so it was. It's like 1409 01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:39.679 it was just like it was ready to it was 1410 01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:42.320 ready to light up. And sure enough it lit up. 1411 01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:44.559 And I don't know how I got down to the 1412 01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:46.760 first floor, but by the time I got to the 1413 01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:50.000 first floor, I was I was like shaken, like like 1414 01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:53.840 you can't believe. I don't it either flashed, exploded or 1415 01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:57.960 whatever it was. But let me tell you something. If 1416 01:07:58.000 --> 01:07:59.679 you're ever in that position and you see fire, and 1417 01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:02.480 I've done this more than once, you go back down, 1418 01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:04.119 you turn around, you get the line, and you go 1419 01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:06.199 back the line with yeah, take it with you. You 1420 01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:08.760 don't pass fire. Never passed fire. I've done that in 1421 01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:11.360 my career four times, and every time it was the 1422 01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:15.280 same story. You know you think you would learn yep, So. 1423 01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:19.399 Like almost like pulling your boots up. 1424 01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:23.720 What kind of buildings are those? I don't think I've 1425 01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:24.079 ever seen it. 1426 01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:26.119 Frames. I think they were like frames. 1427 01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:29.960 I think the one it looked like old buildings like all. 1428 01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:31.560 Around for a long time. One, two, three, four, there 1429 01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:33.680 was five of them. They were all gone. They put 1430 01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:36.720 up A thirty one was in the back, Timmy, Timmy 1431 01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:38.760 did an amazing job. He set up to Stany in 1432 01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:41.880 the front and uh they he just he knocked down 1433 01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:43.720 as much fire as he could. I mean, I mean 1434 01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:45.079 it was just his hands were tied. 1435 01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:47.039 That's forty six right in the front, and that other 1436 01:08:47.079 --> 01:08:48.920 picture in the front. 1437 01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:52.680 We're probably up a little bit further further, but that 1438 01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:54.359 thing is I think that's eighty eight. 1439 01:08:55.319 --> 01:09:00.439 Are those buildings still there? Did they make the we 1440 01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:01.359 didn't do so good there? 1441 01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:03.359 Wait? 1442 01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:11.840 Involved the cross street. 1443 01:09:12.479 --> 01:09:14.399 In the wide Washington, and he was. 1444 01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:19.680 Right double a street did a good job and knocking 1445 01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:20.039 it down. 1446 01:09:20.479 --> 01:09:25.920 Yeah, yeah, my favorite line, we didn't do so good there? 1447 01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:31.720 Before we go to chief. You got the other pictures 1448 01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:34.119 guys that you may or may not find from forty. 1449 01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:39.159 Those were the only two that we got. Everything else, 1450 01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:40.479 So we're good, but we'll. 1451 01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:42.399 Have to go back. 1452 01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:43.359 At least I know where they are. 1453 01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:46.560 So he does it again. He starts studying rough and 1454 01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:48.960 he gets made battalion chief. 1455 01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:49.960 It's a fought smeller. 1456 01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:52.960 He was one of those fought smells. Bro smart fellas, 1457 01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:54.319 is that was that the plan? 1458 01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:54.560 All? 1459 01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:57.039 All? You wanted to go to chief or not so much? 1460 01:09:57.079 --> 01:09:58.960 You know? My father in law was a battalion chief, 1461 01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:03.239 and you know, I had some big shoes to fill, right. 1462 01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:06.880 It's funny how I modeled his career exactly, like he 1463 01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:08.640 was a captain of forty one engine And that was 1464 01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:12.159 interesting detailed over there because they all knew my my 1465 01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:14.600 father in law. A funny, funny story. There was a 1466 01:10:14.600 --> 01:10:18.159 guy Tony Lamagne in forty one. He was he was 1467 01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:20.800 he was interesting guy Tony, great fireman, but he was. 1468 01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:22.680 Just a great picture. Right there where is. 1469 01:10:23.079 --> 01:10:25.800 That expayn I think Mike Dick took that picture. It 1470 01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:29.520 was on Third Avenue. You think seventy threes in there, 1471 01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:33.840 and that's Nicholson is the lieutenant I think, and seventy 1472 01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:36.720 one engines in there. But so anyway that they're fighting 1473 01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:40.439 in the kitchen. Now he's the captain, and uh, there 1474 01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:43.560 was a tough fire house, tough tough house even when 1475 01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:45.119 I I mean, I remember the old time. Is that 1476 01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:49.640 Whitey Watson and these guys just notorious guys, tough tough guys, 1477 01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:52.760 you know. And one day they're arguing and they're arguing 1478 01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:55.399 over the commissary, you know, and he says, hey, guys, 1479 01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:57.520 you know, and they turn around and look at him 1480 01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:00.640 and goes you stay out of it. Yeah, but I'm 1481 01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:03.319 Bob in a kitchen, you know, meaning that in the kitchen, 1482 01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:07.000 he's Bob, So hence the name Bob in the kitchen, 1483 01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:12.159 Bob in the kitchen. 1484 01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:13.920 How did they come up with this stuff? Like it's 1485 01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:16.079 a classic? They would never forget it either. 1486 01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:17.199 Just sticks. 1487 01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:19.000 Oh he saw how they came up with spucky you 1488 01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:19.479 know what I play? 1489 01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:22.960 Yeah? So yeah, so I guess you know. I thought 1490 01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:24.319 I was going to be a deputy, but I wound 1491 01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:26.279 up being a battalion chief. And I love being a 1492 01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:29.560 battalion chief. I spent the most time, I think sixteen 1493 01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:32.840 seventeen years as a battalion chief, and I really grew 1494 01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:35.439 into that role. I just loved being a battalion chief. 1495 01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:38.920 I really felt comfortable in the South in this you know, 1496 01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:41.760 like the sixth Division. I felt like all the buildings, 1497 01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:44.439 I knew them. I knew, you know, one thing. 1498 01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:47.199 Special about the back of the division. 1499 01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:49.720 I started out in the first I spent like a 1500 01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:51.199 year or two that it was a bedfit. 1501 01:11:51.560 --> 01:11:53.880 And it's amazing he got back to the rough. This 1502 01:11:53.920 --> 01:11:56.880 guy keeps landing on his feet. He did. 1503 01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:01.760 I don't think they liked me to I don't know. 1504 01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:06.199 It wasn't you went down after two years of that, 1505 01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:08.199 you know, you could you could pretty much go where 1506 01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:08.520 you want. 1507 01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:10.880 It was interesting. I I did have a high rise 1508 01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:13.840 fire too, but uh, I just I liked being in 1509 01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:15.800 the sixth I know, I know the buildings, you know, 1510 01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:20.039 like Trish. 1511 01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:21.119 Know somebody who loves him to do I know somebody 1512 01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:21.920 who hates does. 1513 01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:23.960 I was saying he loved them. 1514 01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:26.760 But the thing, the thing about the sixth Division is 1515 01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:29.079 that see I saw it when it was vacant. I 1516 01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:31.239 saw it was occupied, then it was vacant, then it 1517 01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:35.039 became you know, reoccupied. You know, they wearhouse performance and 1518 01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:37.680 then they rehab them. But you know, the thing about 1519 01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:40.640 the tenements and the h types in like the sixteenth 1520 01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:43.399 Battalion of fourteenth to two, sixth, one, seven, the third, 1521 01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:46.319 even the eighteenth and the nineteenth, is that the rehab 1522 01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:49.720 buildings are very unique. I mean, I'm sure Brooklyn has them. 1523 01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:52.319 I don't think I've seen them much in Queens as 1524 01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:55.319 much as as in the parts of Brooklyn and the 1525 01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:58.520 Haarlem and Bronx in the Lower east Side. But the voids, 1526 01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:01.159 I mean, you have to know what you're doing in 1527 01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:03.439 those buildings. Because they could get away with you like 1528 01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:05.199 like that, you know, like they. 1529 01:13:05.159 --> 01:13:05.640 Just like. 1530 01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:08.279 Really fast over there. 1531 01:13:08.279 --> 01:13:08.439 Man. 1532 01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:11.359 So I used to like the new new offices would 1533 01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:14.079 come in. I bring them up to your office and like, guys, listen, 1534 01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:16.039 I don't know if you ever worked in a sixth division, 1535 01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:17.840 but you know, you get a building and it says 1536 01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:21.800 rehab on the sids. You gotta go slop, you know 1537 01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:23.840 what I mean? Like, just take your time and don't 1538 01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:25.319 be so quick, you know. 1539 01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:29.520 So, God, you got some pictures of battalion chief or 1540 01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:31.319 you want you want a couple of minutes and sort 1541 01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:31.680 them out. 1542 01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:39.560 Wow, he made me give that back. I had to 1543 01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:42.720 turn it in. What so I had to get a 1544 01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:43.039 new one. 1545 01:13:43.239 --> 01:13:43.960 You have to take. 1546 01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:49.920 We have uh scary fire guys. 1547 01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:51.880 We can go back to the fires because as you're saw, 1548 01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:53.960 I gave you a quick glimpse of some of the look. 1549 01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:55.600 At him again as you were looking for the other one. 1550 01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:56.600 So let's do a repeat. 1551 01:13:56.680 --> 01:13:57.960 All here we go. This was a good one. He 1552 01:13:58.000 --> 01:13:58.960 had a good story with this one. 1553 01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:00.000 I don't think I've seen that before. 1554 01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:03.960 This was an interesting fight. Seventy three engine Richie Bonacaus 1555 01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:07.239 maybe the best chaufer i've ever seen on the FtM 1556 01:14:07.279 --> 01:14:10.039 why and that's spanning old years. I mean there was 1557 01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:12.560 a lot of great chauffeurs, I mean amazing, Like I 1558 01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:16.800 remember I can remember being like new and watching some 1559 01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:19.920 of those like American La Frances or those Max pumping 1560 01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:22.279 and they would they would be rocking like they would 1561 01:14:22.319 --> 01:14:25.319 be they'd be pumping so hard. They'd be supplying a towel, 1562 01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:28.000 ladder and a line or two and they would literally 1563 01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:28.720 be rocking in this. 1564 01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:33.840 Scary sounds right, yeah, too loud. 1565 01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:38.880 So Richie. Unfortunately, Richie, I think drove him. You know, 1566 01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:43.000 every great farm and something drives them, you know. And 1567 01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:46.199 what drove Richie was that he was at the fire 1568 01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:48.479 in eighty five where the captain died across the street 1569 01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:52.119 from forty two truck, and I think he made it 1570 01:14:52.119 --> 01:14:56.039 his mission just to be a great chauffeur, and he 1571 01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:58.199 he just was. He just knocked it out of the park. 1572 01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:00.119 And so every time I looked on the right and 1573 01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:02.359 and I saw Richie working, I was like, wow, you know, like, 1574 01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:05.000 you know a lot of my problems are gone and 1575 01:15:05.039 --> 01:15:08.039 this was what So this was a funny. So what 1576 01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:10.079 I had a thing I did in the in Hunts 1577 01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:12.560 Point when the box would come in, if it was 1578 01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:14.520 like a one in one for like a car fire 1579 01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:17.520 or a truck fire. I always had the radio on anyway, 1580 01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:20.640 but I would pay attention because most of the times 1581 01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:23.399 a truck fire and hunts Point usually means it's parked 1582 01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:25.640 at the dock or the bay and it's attached to 1583 01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:28.960 a building. So this one came in as a one 1584 01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:31.680 and one for a truck fire, and I'm like, I'm 1585 01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:34.840 paying attention to it. I'm like this something's My gut 1586 01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:38.560 was telling me something's off here, you know. And anyway, 1587 01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:42.239 right after that, like thirty seconds, like the old days 1588 01:15:42.239 --> 01:15:43.840 when they have any airs box and then they would 1589 01:15:43.880 --> 01:15:46.760 fill it out when they got a second sauce. This 1590 01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:50.079 one they filled out. And I'll never forget this, right, 1591 01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:52.960 So I come out onto the apron. I look left 1592 01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:55.800 and it was like like normally I could see the 1593 01:15:55.800 --> 01:16:00.399 whole skyline of Manhattan, it was nothing but black. It 1594 01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:01.960 was this black, black cloud. 1595 01:16:02.079 --> 01:16:02.319 Right. 1596 01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:06.159 So anyway, so now we're going towards the box was 1597 01:16:06.199 --> 01:16:12.319 over by Garrison somewhere, you know, and ten seventy five whatever, 1598 01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:17.760 and uh, the roofman young guy Richie rivera young kid 1599 01:16:17.800 --> 01:16:20.000 from forty eight truck amazing. I mean, guy was only 1600 01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:22.239 a pro. He gave me the best report. He's like, Chief, 1601 01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:25.119 we got seven. He must have counted him. We have 1602 01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:29.640 seventeen trucks on fire. So this truck fire was a 1603 01:16:29.680 --> 01:16:33.079 repair lot and there was exposures on three sides with 1604 01:16:33.159 --> 01:16:36.680 windows in the in the you know, in the courtyard 1605 01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:38.600 there you know, where the trucks were, and I mean 1606 01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:41.760 the amount of fire was just it was also the 1607 01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:44.359 guy we saw him on video was forty gallons of 1608 01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:44.920 diesel and he. 1609 01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:46.479 Built if you know, I was thinking when he said 1610 01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:48.880 the windows were right next to the building, right there. 1611 01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:54.439 Nice, nice, nice nice. 1612 01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:58.199 Chief's thinking, oh shit, I'm going nice. 1613 01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:01.239 So now shit, he smoked too, man. 1614 01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:05.720 So now the propane tanks are going ninety four of No. 1615 01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:07.920 Ducci was working, knocked it out of the park. He 1616 01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:13.439 just crushed it. Doucci Doccici. Yeah, I love that guy. 1617 01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:17.039 Provaty school, not Ducci. The only guy short guys John 1618 01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:18.640 walters In, not Ducci, shorter than me. 1619 01:17:18.840 --> 01:17:22.279 He's the best. Yeah. So anyway, so I made I 1620 01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:25.399 just made sure I left the front open for a 1621 01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:27.439 towel ladder, you know, And the tower ladder shows up 1622 01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:29.960 and I'm like, hey, you know, get the towel ladder 1623 01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:32.319 set up, and Richie's got the water all sort of 1624 01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:36.119 before you know, we had five lines stretched on both 1625 01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:39.479 exposures and we already were getting the real sorted, you know, 1626 01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:43.279 and Rob set up the deck gun the stang and 1627 01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:46.159 instead of you know, they're ready to supply a towel ladder. 1628 01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:49.439 The captain he's like, but Chief, I'm the fast truck. 1629 01:17:49.439 --> 01:17:51.239 I said, I don't give up. You know what, man, 1630 01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:54.199 get that towel ladder up. I got a radio, I 1631 01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:56.399 got another towel adder. I set them fifty four up 1632 01:17:56.399 --> 01:17:59.319 in the back. We had like two towel ladders going 1633 01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:01.920 in five lines within like ten minutes, and we had 1634 01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:06.279 water everywhere and no problems. And the Deputy's like, hey, Danny, 1635 01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:07.840 I think we should give a second Alum. 1636 01:18:07.920 --> 01:18:09.960 I'm like all right. 1637 01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:15.399 And they kept the fire out of all those buildings. 1638 01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:18.399 I mean, they just every engine I mean got them. 1639 01:18:18.479 --> 01:18:21.600 They just one better job than the next. You know, 1640 01:18:21.720 --> 01:18:24.840 that aligns on the roofs that had them in the buildings. 1641 01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:26.079 Got to make you proud. 1642 01:18:26.479 --> 01:18:28.840 Oh, I mean, it's just a pleasure. I mean, it's 1643 01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:30.760 just like working with these guys it's amazing. 1644 01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:33.560 God give us another one. 1645 01:18:33.720 --> 01:18:38.600 Did you did you mold yourself? Like, did you find 1646 01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:39.239 yourself doing? 1647 01:18:39.399 --> 01:18:39.520 Yes? 1648 01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:42.840 Actually things like guys that you liked. 1649 01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:46.479 And I had absolutely. One of my mentors was Tommy Martin. 1650 01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:50.000 I love this guy because you know, everyone loved him, 1651 01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:52.359 but yet he was a great chief, you know. And 1652 01:18:52.399 --> 01:18:54.520 he said to me, I'll never forget I walked into 1653 01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:56.439 the firehouse, I had like ten minutes on the job. 1654 01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:59.920 He pushes me up against the board in seventies. Is kid, 1655 01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:02.359 it's easy to leave your wife than it is to 1656 01:19:02.439 --> 01:19:06.680 leave the fight apartment years old. And I'm like, what 1657 01:19:07.399 --> 01:19:10.720 just talking about? And I know what he meant, because 1658 01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:14.159 thirty nine years later here I am like, you know still, yeah, man, 1659 01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:16.680 I had only the day behind me. You see that 1660 01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:19.039 coach behind me, the chiefs code. I was hanging up 1661 01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:21.119 and I had I had a moment. 1662 01:19:21.159 --> 01:19:22.239 It was like, wow, you. 1663 01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:26.800 I had to Yeah, it happens to the best of us. 1664 01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:29.840 It was very it was emotional. I couldn't believe I 1665 01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:30.560 got so emotional. 1666 01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:33.279 You know, Well, it becomes who you are, that's the problem. 1667 01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:36.439 Nik Wisconsin was another guy. 1668 01:19:37.119 --> 01:19:39.199 What a nice man, so niceol. 1669 01:19:39.720 --> 01:19:41.439 He worked with my father in law in the second 1670 01:19:41.439 --> 01:19:44.279 section of fifty you always had that connection, you know, 1671 01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:48.880 Kilker Kennedy. I mean, there's so many chiefs there were 1672 01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:51.840 just these guys were just so cool man, you know 1673 01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:54.399 what I mean, Like they just not didn't rattle these guys. 1674 01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:56.479 You know what, what do you think is the thing 1675 01:19:56.520 --> 01:20:00.279 that is to get to get them met to do 1676 01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:02.520 what you want, but at the same time that they 1677 01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:05.960 like you. Isn't that at such a tough thing to do, right, 1678 01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:09.399 like without being too friendly? Right? Oh, I don't know 1679 01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:11.359 if not too friendly, but you know what I'm saying, Like. 1680 01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:14.279 I think, you know, I'll tell you what I did 1681 01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:16.600 being the chief, because you get as you get older, 1682 01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:20.239 you get more comfortable, you know. And you know, I 1683 01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:24.039 had three daughters, and I used to tell my brother 1684 01:20:24.039 --> 01:20:25.880 in law and we used to talk about raising kids, 1685 01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:28.039 and I said, listen, my kids have a lot of friends. 1686 01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:32.199 They only have one father that's me, you know. And 1687 01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:35.600 I never, you know, I never got involved with group 1688 01:20:35.680 --> 01:20:38.720 chats and stuff on the board and stuff like that, 1689 01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:42.479 you know, like it's just not my my thing. It's 1690 01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:44.680 not like I'm the chief. I mean, you gotta be. 1691 01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:46.319 You got someone's got to be the chief, you know 1692 01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:49.079 what I mean. So it's great if they like you. 1693 01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:54.199 I mean I found that, you know, I loved praising 1694 01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:55.920 guys in public. Like we had this kid. He was 1695 01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:59.119 a rotator. I can't remember his name. He came from 1696 01:20:59.159 --> 01:21:01.680 a place in Queen's and the kid did an amazing job. 1697 01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:04.600 And I just made sure that everybody in the battalion 1698 01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:07.000 that this kid did this great job. We had a 1699 01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:10.239 we had a phone on like three in the morning 1700 01:21:10.359 --> 01:21:14.479 for I guess for an odor of smoke, and it 1701 01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:19.560 was on Watson Big H type building. And uh, I'm 1702 01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:22.000 in the street and someone says, all right, you know, 1703 01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:26.079 truck company to battalion or whatever. It's an oil burner, 1704 01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:30.439 and just something about it. It didn't feel right, like 1705 01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:32.399 I just I don't know how to describe it. But 1706 01:21:32.439 --> 01:21:35.239 it's just something the spider sense was just tingling, you know. 1707 01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:38.840 Yeah, it's like from his grandma. The spider sense got 1708 01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:39.520 it from grandma. 1709 01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:43.399 From grandma, I just kind of held off, you know. 1710 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:47.840 Then this kid was a rotator. God, I wish I 1711 01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:50.560 remember his name. He was a great kids some company 1712 01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:53.840 in Queens and and you know, he just went to 1713 01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:56.000 his position. You know, his job was the roof and 1714 01:21:56.039 --> 01:21:57.520 he went to the roof and next thing, I get 1715 01:21:57.520 --> 01:22:01.760 a report ladder four eight roof to Battalian chief. We 1716 01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:03.600 got a rubbish fire on the roof. It wasn't a 1717 01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:06.079 rubbish fire. It had burned through the cock loft and 1718 01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:10.439 it was just a small isolated fire. And uh yeah, 1719 01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:12.279 we stretched the line, we pulled the ceilings, put the 1720 01:22:12.279 --> 01:22:14.279 fire out, and we could have lost that hole. It 1721 01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:17.000 was a tremendous age type But you know, like the 1722 01:22:17.079 --> 01:22:19.159 kid did a great job, you know, and I made 1723 01:22:19.159 --> 01:22:23.039 sure everyone knew about it, right, you know, And I think. 1724 01:22:22.920 --> 01:22:24.960 It was a public right praise the public when. 1725 01:22:24.880 --> 01:22:26.760 Guys do a good job. You know, I always tell 1726 01:22:26.840 --> 01:22:29.439 him over the radio after the job it guys, I 1727 01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:32.039 mean this like, you know, thank you, great job. And 1728 01:22:32.079 --> 01:22:34.399 if you know things don't go right, you know, you 1729 01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:37.199 you come into the office and you know we could 1730 01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:40.720 talk about it, you know. But as far as I'm 1731 01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:42.319 liking you, I don't know. I mean, I wish I 1732 01:22:42.359 --> 01:22:44.600 had that magic. I mean, Tommy Martin had a lot 1733 01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:46.800 of guys had it, But I don't know. 1734 01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:51.880 I know, guys, I know a chief didn't. Do You 1735 01:22:51.880 --> 01:22:53.600 want to tell your chief Steve's story now? 1736 01:22:56.399 --> 01:22:57.800 Okay, it's not a bad story. 1737 01:22:58.039 --> 01:22:58.399 Okay. 1738 01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:02.960 So I'm working in has Man, I'm working has Mat 1739 01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:06.399 and we get something out Rockaway and Phil mccaddal to 1740 01:23:06.439 --> 01:23:08.279 me is like Phil mccaudell. 1741 01:23:09.439 --> 01:23:12.680 Im, did he have a jumpsuit on? A black jumpsuit? 1742 01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:17.159 He is just like he has that guy. He just 1743 01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:20.000 is the guy, you know. So he had some kind 1744 01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:23.880 of has Met thing and we get there and I 1745 01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:25.840 reported to the chief chief, how you doing. I think 1746 01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:28.199 he might have been Battalian chief at the time. So 1747 01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:32.039 I'm like he's telling me, hey, I got this thing whatever, 1748 01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:34.560 and I'm like, okay. So I go has Matt to 1749 01:23:34.920 --> 01:23:37.520 you know, I don't know what Phil's position was, and 1750 01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:39.119 he looks at me. He goes, what are you doing. 1751 01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:42.720 I said, I'm checking with my experts about what's going on. 1752 01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:44.760 He goes, Yo, the lieutenant, you should know. I'm like, 1753 01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:51.840 I'm here for the night, nothing about has Matt whatever. 1754 01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:52.319 You know. 1755 01:23:52.359 --> 01:23:56.720 I covered I could, and he got pissed off him. 1756 01:23:56.760 --> 01:23:58.960 He's like, why are you asking him? I'm like, because 1757 01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:00.680 the guy wrote the book has. 1758 01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:04.720 Met, So stick to you chiefs, do you. 1759 01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:06.760 So? 1760 01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:07.279 Anyway? 1761 01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:09.359 That was my only That's. 1762 01:24:09.239 --> 01:24:13.560 Only start A pledge pin uniform. 1763 01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:24.239 White socks as gosh, thats god more five pictures come on. 1764 01:24:25.399 --> 01:24:28.039 This is a funny story. So this I knew this 1765 01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:32.640 building intimately because it's a rehab right And I was 1766 01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:35.760 at another box with my aid. Uh it was funny 1767 01:24:37.119 --> 01:24:40.159 and uh I looked at him. I said, that sounds 1768 01:24:40.159 --> 01:24:42.479 like a job. I said, let's start driving down the Bruckner, 1769 01:24:42.720 --> 01:24:46.000 you know. So we start driving down the Bruckner and 1770 01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:49.239 uh ten seventy five. I'm the old hands chief. I 1771 01:24:49.319 --> 01:24:53.039 reported to the chief and he said, I, Danny, go 1772 01:24:53.119 --> 01:24:55.199 to the top floor. Go to the top floor. Sixty 1773 01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:58.840 eighty three, seventy three, they're roll up there. They were 1774 01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:03.920 leaving each other. Uh, Brooksy from sixty engine is on fire. 1775 01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:07.279 I'm like, Brooksy, you're on fire because a chief, I know, 1776 01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:11.680 you're run fire. Yeah, his coat was on fire. Like Brooks, 1777 01:25:11.680 --> 01:25:14.319 you're on trying, you're on you're on fire man. So anyway, 1778 01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:16.800 they're knocking down all this fire. And I'm like a 1779 01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:20.039 battalion three to command. I said, with making great progress. 1780 01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:23.439 We're knocking down fire, you know. Whatever. Next thing, you know, 1781 01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:26.479 Roger sackle which comes up onto the top floor and 1782 01:25:26.560 --> 01:25:28.720 Roger and I said, what are you doing here? I said, 1783 01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:30.560 you know, he's the he's the old he's the city. 1784 01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:32.800 Why told command? He said, Dan? He said third along. 1785 01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:40.960 I said really, so yeah, obviously the inside didn't match 1786 01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:44.880 the outside. 1787 01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:47.760 Oh yeah, I got it, Yeah, I got you. I 1788 01:25:47.800 --> 01:25:51.520 gotta let me just I'm looking for the I wanted. 1789 01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:52.399 This one was the one looking. 1790 01:25:52.520 --> 01:25:55.239 Oh my god, this is a Richie Bond Cossa classic 1791 01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:58.199 fire And he and I were just so dialed in 1792 01:25:58.279 --> 01:26:01.199 on the same page. Soe o'clock in the afternoon is 1793 01:26:01.239 --> 01:26:04.399 overrun Prospect and one hundred right down the block from 1794 01:26:04.399 --> 01:26:08.880 the fire house, one five six whatever, And the whole 1795 01:26:08.920 --> 01:26:10.840 thing the kids had lit up the garbage and it 1796 01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:13.119 took the whole side of the building. So Richie shows up, 1797 01:26:13.479 --> 01:26:16.359 so seventy three, hits it with the deck gun and 1798 01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:19.520 stretches the line. McCutchen was the boss, and they stretch 1799 01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:21.920 a line to cover the whole building. They knock down 1800 01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:23.640 all the fire on the outside. The only thing that 1801 01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:26.479 we had was window frames on the on all floors, 1802 01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:29.760 and it was done like in twenty minutes, And that 1803 01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:33.079 could have been easily who knows what that could have been. 1804 01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:35.039 Exposed and you wouldn't even known it. 1805 01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:40.399 Richie had the wherewithal to like like the deck gun, 1806 01:26:40.439 --> 01:26:43.239 like I would that, that's my dream, Like, yeah, I 1807 01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:45.920 wish all engine companies if they have fires like this, Yeah, 1808 01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:48.960 pull up the deck gun and just get yeah, wucket man. 1809 01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:52.119 You know they got a unit secuation for that. 1810 01:26:52.159 --> 01:26:56.279 By the way, nice, nice, sorry we go here we go. 1811 01:26:57.159 --> 01:26:59.920 So that was that was a that was an interesting job, right. 1812 01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:04.079 So I call this like Archie uncle like land. You know, 1813 01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:06.119 like in Queens you guys are too young for it, 1814 01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:08.760 but like all in the family used to open up 1815 01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:10.960 with a big aerial shot of Queens, right, and the 1816 01:27:11.039 --> 01:27:14.119 world these two half story private dwellings and now you 1817 01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:16.880 now you start having these like mc mansions, right, Like 1818 01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:19.600 they take these three story monstrosities and they put them 1819 01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:23.319 inside all these like two and a half story right. 1820 01:27:23.359 --> 01:27:25.800 So I came on the like the second alarm now, right, 1821 01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:29.920 and I go to the command post and like I 1822 01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:34.680 first question I asked, is like what do you call it? 1823 01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:39.000 I said, I said a chief, I said, is this lightweight? 1824 01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:42.000 And he goes, I don't know, is it? So I 1825 01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:44.079 get on the radio, like all right, TI in three 1826 01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:46.479 light of four seven, So Timmy gipples work. I said, Timmy, 1827 01:27:47.439 --> 01:27:50.199 what's going on? We got lightweight hold on chief. Yeah, 1828 01:27:50.239 --> 01:27:53.960 we got lightweight, so you know what could happen with 1829 01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:57.359 these The fire blew out the windows in the cellar, 1830 01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:00.800 and the it could get up into that truck us 1831 01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:03.000 like if the fire was lapping up the side of 1832 01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:06.279 the building. Sixty four engine crushed it. I mean they 1833 01:28:06.279 --> 01:28:08.680 put out all the fire in the alleyway, they put 1834 01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:11.279 out the exposure, and then they made it down the 1835 01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:13.600 basement and they put it put out the basement. I 1836 01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:15.760 wanted to put him in for a unit. Not everybody 1837 01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.520 agreed with me, but they deserve the unit for that one. 1838 01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:23.319 Nice. Nice, Sorry, I got one more for you. Sorry. 1839 01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:26.600 I was answering your boy fish. 1840 01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:26.680 Franky the motto. 1841 01:28:29.399 --> 01:28:31.239 This is just an old that that was from. 1842 01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:37.520 It looks like the rock holy ship waiting to see 1843 01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:38.560 the guy come down with the. 1844 01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:42.479 UK to the guy that one little right. Yeah. 1845 01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:47.079 I was actually working in sixty engine that night. I 1846 01:28:47.159 --> 01:28:49.600 was detailed to the engine and we put out I 1847 01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:52.640 don't how many floors of fire, but they pulled out 1848 01:28:53.039 --> 01:28:55.279 I think Timmy, I think Timmy Klekt took pictures at 1849 01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:58.239 that job. I'm not sure because he was these are 1850 01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:00.840 I think these are his photos. He's got pictures of it. 1851 01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:06.439 I don't know. 1852 01:29:09.399 --> 01:29:10.840 Another parking lot in the proxy. 1853 01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:17.640 So Tom did a great job at that fire, and 1854 01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:19.640 I don't know it was it. Frankie Trummer was a 1855 01:29:19.880 --> 01:29:23.319 mcdell of both of them. But normally when we used 1856 01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:25.319 to respond to this box, we'd go down one four 1857 01:29:25.399 --> 01:29:28.560 one against traffic and then that was our normal way 1858 01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:31.119 to respond to Beakman and Oak. But this one day, 1859 01:29:31.159 --> 01:29:33.680 I don't know what possessed them. They went the right 1860 01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:37.159 way with traffic down one hundred and forty fourth the 1861 01:29:37.239 --> 01:29:41.439 stands and it turns out that seventeen was positioned on 1862 01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:44.199 the I guess it's Oak Terrace and there were people 1863 01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:47.720 hanging out the windows and Tom probably grabbed about six 1864 01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:51.880 people in a bucket off the top floor. So just 1865 01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:54.800 by you know, just by lucky, they seventeen. Like, we 1866 01:29:54.840 --> 01:29:57.760 would never respond that way, you know, but we happened 1867 01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:03.039 to respond that way. Spider sense again again, that spider sense, man. 1868 01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:07.399 You know what we're putting this together, bro The spider 1869 01:30:07.479 --> 01:30:10.600 sense a huge buff because a lot of times he's 1870 01:30:10.640 --> 01:30:13.119 turning out listening to the radio. I don't know what's 1871 01:30:13.159 --> 01:30:17.560 going on. There, plus the spider sense. We got to 1872 01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:20.399 be doing a rescue multiple bump bull sounds like a job, 1873 01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:21.119 not like a. 1874 01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:27.640 Job that's old audio, because that was. Yeah. 1875 01:30:28.560 --> 01:30:31.640 I saved some of the old ones. You know, gonna 1876 01:30:31.640 --> 01:30:32.199 bring those back. 1877 01:30:32.920 --> 01:30:36.840 Those were amazing. Though I can't remember, Oh man, pull up, 1878 01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:37.960 you're going to work. 1879 01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:40.279 You're still say fire Man's on this podcast. 1880 01:30:44.199 --> 01:30:46.239 All the pictures, I don't know. We have this burnt 1881 01:30:46.239 --> 01:30:47.640 out show and whoa. 1882 01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:51.159 Look at seventy three engine job. Danny Sombrado was the captain. 1883 01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:53.479 I I owe him a unit citation on this one, 1884 01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:56.840 and we didn't get one. There was a little lesson 1885 01:30:56.880 --> 01:30:57.640 learned on this one. 1886 01:30:59.159 --> 01:30:59.439 We had. 1887 01:30:59.640 --> 01:31:02.319 We had a fatality, and I don't know if I 1888 01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:03.680 could say I dropped the ball. I mean the guy 1889 01:31:03.720 --> 01:31:06.000 was dead anyway, so I mean there was no savment. 1890 01:31:06.600 --> 01:31:09.439 We pulled up. It was Frontier. I remember pulling up 1891 01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:12.279 and Richie again was driving. He knew that he knew 1892 01:31:12.279 --> 01:31:14.600 that the hydrant was at a service in front, so 1893 01:31:14.800 --> 01:31:18.399 he already addressed that they pushed that fire from the 1894 01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:21.159 front to the rear. No problem. I pulled up and 1895 01:31:21.199 --> 01:31:23.439 I looked in the back. I took a peek down 1896 01:31:23.479 --> 01:31:25.800 the alleyway and I see the fire in the windows 1897 01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:29.159 in the building back. I see every window, fire out, 1898 01:31:29.199 --> 01:31:31.520 every single window, and they crushed it. 1899 01:31:32.119 --> 01:31:32.680 And uh. 1900 01:31:32.840 --> 01:31:37.600 Someone had said to me, see, when you get an ABC, right, 1901 01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:41.319 you gotta even though no, so I was first too. 1902 01:31:41.319 --> 01:31:43.520 It was I first too. Somehow I had an ABC, 1903 01:31:44.560 --> 01:31:47.039 and uh, and then the deputy came. So I got 1904 01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:49.319 kind of lost in the weeds. But the people were 1905 01:31:49.319 --> 01:31:52.319 telling me, hey, you know Jose or whatever, you know, 1906 01:31:52.359 --> 01:31:54.319 he's there, and then other people like, nah, he jumped 1907 01:31:54.319 --> 01:32:00.680 out the window. So anyway, in the interim, you know, 1908 01:32:01.920 --> 01:32:04.399 total burnout. Right, I didn't show you the picture of 1909 01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:07.079 the interior, but all you saw was laughing, you know. 1910 01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:09.920 And then the next day I'm in the firehouse and 1911 01:32:09.960 --> 01:32:13.119 the phone rings and it's like, uh, Chief is Field 1912 01:32:13.359 --> 01:32:17.199 Battalian three. It's the Marshalls Chief. I helpe you sitting down. 1913 01:32:17.239 --> 01:32:20.680 I'm like, oh, sh Jose didn't jump out the window. 1914 01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:25.000 They found a bone. One bone found so really one bone, 1915 01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:26.640 that's all it was. It was a bone the size 1916 01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:30.439 of a like a that's it. 1917 01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:30.720 That's all. 1918 01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:35.079 It was a total burnout. But I mean, so I 1919 01:32:35.159 --> 01:32:37.159 know if that was the reason why I couldn't put 1920 01:32:37.159 --> 01:32:38.880 them in for the unit. But I mean the amount 1921 01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:40.720 they kept the fire from going above I mean it 1922 01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:43.960 was just an amazing right amount of fire that they 1923 01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:44.439 put out. 1924 01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:47.039 So he's not available for overtime. 1925 01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:50.119 Have to go somewhere else and hire. 1926 01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:54.079 Yeah, all right. The last job pick I have is. 1927 01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:56.199 This, Oh, that looks like a good one. 1928 01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:58.720 It was a vacant. It was a vacant on one 1929 01:32:58.760 --> 01:33:02.600 hundred and forty ninth in Timpson. So we had a job. 1930 01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:04.439 Let me ask you one question before you get that. 1931 01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:06.039 Do you have all these written down or all these 1932 01:33:06.079 --> 01:33:07.720 coming out of your mind totally? 1933 01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:11.279 Should? We were going through I'm like, shit, I can't 1934 01:33:11.319 --> 01:33:12.039 type that quickly. 1935 01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:13.399 Wow. 1936 01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:16.239 So we had a job on Elton, like in one 1937 01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:19.600 hundred and fifty fourth and sleven was a chief at 1938 01:33:19.600 --> 01:33:21.880 the time. He was acting deputy chief, right, So it 1939 01:33:21.960 --> 01:33:25.560 was Tommy Mahoney's last night and sixty engine. So it 1940 01:33:25.600 --> 01:33:28.640 was like a three story vacant, you know, and it 1941 01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:31.000 was Tommy's last night. The guy had been through the warriors. 1942 01:33:31.039 --> 01:33:32.920 It was like thirty years on a job and he 1943 01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:35.680 was gonna have the nozzle right anyway. 1944 01:33:35.359 --> 01:33:35.520 So. 1945 01:33:37.199 --> 01:33:40.319 We uh, we take the front of the building fifty 1946 01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:42.439 five at the time was still in the old fire out. 1947 01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:45.000 So we had the front of the building and Slevin 1948 01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:47.520 was like, we're ready to go in. He's like, nope, 1949 01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:50.039 no one's going in. We're like, come on, chief, it's 1950 01:33:50.359 --> 01:33:52.479 move man's last night. Like, let's let him have the 1951 01:33:52.520 --> 01:33:55.920 nozzle and you're not going in. Set up the towel 1952 01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:57.720 ladder and boom, all right. So we set up the 1953 01:33:57.720 --> 01:34:00.000 towel and now I'm in a bucket with this guy Bobby, right, 1954 01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:02.760 and we're knocking down all the fire and now I'm 1955 01:34:02.760 --> 01:34:07.119 pulling the corner. Says, you know, well the corners, I'm 1956 01:34:07.119 --> 01:34:10.239 pulling whatever. And I look at Bobby. I'm like, Bobby, 1957 01:34:10.239 --> 01:34:12.399 why did you move the rig? Like and he says, 1958 01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:20.520 you idiot. He says, the building just fell down. He said, what. 1959 01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:21.119 Collapsed? 1960 01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:21.359 You know? 1961 01:34:22.039 --> 01:34:25.079 That always like stuck in my mind. So I looked 1962 01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:27.439 at the kids on this on this ticket, I'm like, 1963 01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:30.800 vacant building, you know, numerous voids, this and that and 1964 01:34:30.840 --> 01:34:31.279 the other thing. 1965 01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:35.359 So the sure stick the thirty guy on his last 1966 01:34:35.359 --> 01:34:42.800 tour in here, yeah, retiring, the guy dying his last tour. 1967 01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:51.840 First check, that's exactly. So anyway, I I just went 1968 01:34:51.880 --> 01:34:54.840 the from the apparatus on the apparatus floor. I'm just like, listen, 1969 01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:58.479 nobody in the building, and you know whatever, So wind 1970 01:34:58.600 --> 01:35:00.640 up putting out with the towel ladder and whatever. 1971 01:35:01.720 --> 01:35:03.119 It look like a good one to go in there. 1972 01:35:03.439 --> 01:35:03.800 That's it. 1973 01:35:04.479 --> 01:35:05.920 The buildings falling down. 1974 01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:08.800 You almost make it to forty What makes you want 1975 01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:09.359 to pack it. 1976 01:35:09.279 --> 01:35:14.800 In age on you? Yeah, feel out of bed. 1977 01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:16.640 You're like, oh, that don't feel so good. 1978 01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:20.479 Yeah, it just it was time, you know, I mean, 1979 01:35:20.760 --> 01:35:23.159 I I was. I got some stuff that I just 1980 01:35:24.199 --> 01:35:25.079 it's just it was time. 1981 01:35:25.279 --> 01:35:25.479 You know. 1982 01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:28.199 They told me that you would know when it was time, 1983 01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:29.960 and it broke my heart, you know. 1984 01:35:30.039 --> 01:35:32.920 I mean, we just had this conversation right rough THEILD. 1985 01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:35.119 You'll know, my uncle, who had forty years on the job, said, 1986 01:35:35.119 --> 01:35:37.239 you'll know when it's time like this, when you're coming 1987 01:35:37.239 --> 01:35:40.119 back from vacation and you're not putting full of pisson 1988 01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:42.479 vinegar and you can't wait to get back and you 1989 01:35:42.479 --> 01:35:43.479 don't feel that way anymore. 1990 01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:44.039 It's time. 1991 01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:45.000 Yeah. 1992 01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:47.479 I was six, I'll be sixty four next week. And 1993 01:35:47.520 --> 01:35:51.000 it's like, you know, my wife's retiring, we got a grandchild. 1994 01:35:51.840 --> 01:35:53.680 You know, it's just enough. 1995 01:35:54.079 --> 01:35:57.000 Yeah, you've done your ship. 1996 01:35:57.600 --> 01:35:59.640 I'm trying not to think about it, you know, like 1997 01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:02.680 I try that to dwell on it. I'm like, it sucks, 1998 01:36:03.159 --> 01:36:05.359 It really sucks. I mean, he really does. I mean 1999 01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:08.479 it's said, I mean, I mean, but you have to 2000 01:36:08.520 --> 01:36:11.119 move on. I mean, I guess she's everyone's got to 2001 01:36:11.159 --> 01:36:11.920 go through it, you know. 2002 01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:16.680 Yeah when you're asking, yeah, for you to do it? 2003 01:36:17.039 --> 01:36:19.439 So have you had have you had the dream yet? 2004 01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:22.600 He's not officially retired, right, you. 2005 01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:24.319 Haven't been in the fire house in a while, Right when? 2006 01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:28.840 When when the dreams? But being fires and stuff? 2007 01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:31.600 Now about not about having getting a run and not 2008 01:36:31.640 --> 01:36:36.119 being able to fund your gear. I'm not that is 2009 01:36:36.159 --> 01:36:39.399 that happened with every retired guy. 2010 01:36:41.359 --> 01:36:41.800 Let us know. 2011 01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:43.319 I want you to call. 2012 01:36:45.960 --> 01:36:48.000 It's gonna be on your mind now. 2013 01:36:48.079 --> 01:36:49.319 Yeah, now we just plane. 2014 01:36:49.800 --> 01:36:52.279 You're messed up my head. But I've I've been having 2015 01:36:52.359 --> 01:36:56.399 dreams about, like you know, being back and working and fires, 2016 01:36:56.479 --> 01:36:59.359 and I always keep having this recurring dream. So I 2017 01:36:59.359 --> 01:37:01.279 grew up in the woodside in the Mets, and it 2018 01:37:01.359 --> 01:37:04.359 was kind of a lower income type of place that 2019 01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:06.359 I think if it had been in another borrow, it 2020 01:37:06.399 --> 01:37:08.760 probably just would have burnt down. And I always have 2021 01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:11.560 these dreams about this mets. You probably because you were 2022 01:37:11.560 --> 01:37:13.239 in twenty eight. I mean you had been third duo 2023 01:37:13.359 --> 01:37:18.800 with him. Maybe maybe, I'm not sure. Forty ninth, forty sixth, 2024 01:37:18.960 --> 01:37:22.680 you know, forty seventh and what fiftieth Avenue? 2025 01:37:23.239 --> 01:37:23.960 Worst squad there? 2026 01:37:24.399 --> 01:37:27.560 Yeah, I know it's close though. You got twenty five 2027 01:37:27.640 --> 01:37:29.960 to ninety two. Yeah, you would be a squad. Yeah, 2028 01:37:30.399 --> 01:37:32.880 But I always have these dreams about it being like 2029 01:37:32.920 --> 01:37:35.239 a vacant like in the Bronx, you know, and like 2030 01:37:35.399 --> 01:37:38.239 all the time, like it's always are you know. 2031 01:37:38.279 --> 01:37:39.680 But well it might have been if it wasn't your 2032 01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:47.239 grandmother well Graham Man, Oh, very good for man. She 2033 01:37:47.319 --> 01:37:55.079 had you followed. No, he passed ye fighters right, yeah, man? 2034 01:37:55.279 --> 01:37:57.239 How many years did he do like me? 2035 01:37:57.439 --> 01:38:01.439 Like thirty seven, eighth, thirty eight? He got on fifty 2036 01:38:01.439 --> 01:38:03.159 seven and got out of ninety five, So do him 2037 01:38:03.159 --> 01:38:06.279 with thirty eight. Maybe we had the same track. He 2038 01:38:06.319 --> 01:38:10.399 started out in thirty three engine. It was lieutenant twenty 2039 01:38:10.439 --> 01:38:11.000 five years. 2040 01:38:11.119 --> 01:38:12.479 That's not bad. I'll take you. 2041 01:38:12.520 --> 01:38:16.079 He was in fifty dash two he was, then he 2042 01:38:16.119 --> 01:38:17.399 was in Brooklyn a little bit, and then he was 2043 01:38:17.399 --> 01:38:19.319 a captain of forty one engine and then he was 2044 01:38:19.359 --> 01:38:22.560 achieved in the three one but ten Wow the same track, Wow, 2045 01:38:22.960 --> 01:38:23.520 same track. 2046 01:38:23.720 --> 01:38:25.560 But who do we have on from seventeen too? 2047 01:38:27.079 --> 01:38:30.199 Oh it was a while ago too. 2048 01:38:30.319 --> 01:38:33.359 Richie Richie. Guy's name is Richie maybe what's his name? 2049 01:38:33.439 --> 01:38:34.159 He was a captain. 2050 01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:38.199 Oh was it a kirk kerk No, not kirk Lester, 2051 01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:42.359 kirk is in No, no, not kirk Lester. It's his 2052 01:38:42.479 --> 01:38:46.279 last name was Kerr or something, Kerstetter something. 2053 01:38:46.680 --> 01:38:51.279 H Richie Kirsten. Yeah, a Kershner Richie, yep. 2054 01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:52.039 Yeah. 2055 01:38:52.039 --> 01:38:54.960 He used to come around the fireous a lot. Well, 2056 01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:56.800 it's a funny story. One time we're in the kitchen 2057 01:38:56.840 --> 01:38:58.560 in seventeen truck. We had this guy in the big 2058 01:38:58.680 --> 01:39:01.720 room and his father was on a job and his 2059 01:39:01.760 --> 01:39:05.199 grandfather was on a job, right, So this old timer 2060 01:39:05.439 --> 01:39:08.840 comes into the kitchen. His name was Murphy. He was 2061 01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:11.279 in Rescue three because Rescue three was in seventeen trucks 2062 01:39:11.359 --> 01:39:14.640 quarters and this guy the ruin his father was in 2063 01:39:14.720 --> 01:39:18.520 twenty nine truck, right. So anyway, he comes in and 2064 01:39:18.520 --> 01:39:20.159 he looks at this guy in the room. He goes, 2065 01:39:20.920 --> 01:39:24.880 you old fuck, you're still on the job. We knew 2066 01:39:24.880 --> 01:39:25.680 exactly what he meant. 2067 01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:30.039 He thought he was his father, right, that's awesome ruin 2068 01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:33.319 good guys, Not that we haven't got a lot of 2069 01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:34.640 uh whiters. 2070 01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:35.880 But I think it's that time. 2071 01:39:35.920 --> 01:39:38.880 Bro, Is it that time? What time is that? Let 2072 01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:40.399 me let me get this so cute up you guys. 2073 01:39:40.680 --> 01:39:42.159 I was going to show two more pictures, but we 2074 01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:45.119 will do this, yeah, said no, no, there's why I'm 2075 01:39:45.159 --> 01:39:45.680 looking at too. 2076 01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:48.399 He wanted to chief found. 2077 01:39:49.439 --> 01:39:51.359 No, no, this is a Katrina story. Did you want 2078 01:39:51.359 --> 01:39:52.000 to touch on control? 2079 01:39:52.039 --> 01:39:54.479 Oh that's a great story. I love that. 2080 01:39:54.479 --> 01:39:56.239 That was I want to make sure we get to it. 2081 01:39:56.479 --> 01:39:57.439 That was a great story. 2082 01:39:57.479 --> 01:39:57.720 Yeah. 2083 01:39:57.880 --> 01:40:03.359 So anyways, I got a few minutes, I'll tell the 2084 01:40:03.359 --> 01:40:05.479 whole story. So I'm up in New Hampshire with these 2085 01:40:05.520 --> 01:40:07.119 guys from Ecuador. I did a lot of work in 2086 01:40:07.159 --> 01:40:10.359 South America, helping train guys down there whatever, you know. 2087 01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:15.239 So anyway, I'm watching the news and like, yeah, so 2088 01:40:15.359 --> 01:40:19.279 Katrina is coming to slam it to New Orleans, and 2089 01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:21.920 I think, like what this got nothing to do with me? 2090 01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:24.119 So anyway, I go to work, I guess that night 2091 01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:27.000 and a fact comes over. They're looking for volunteers to 2092 01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:31.199 go down to New Orleans. So I'm like, oh shit, 2093 01:40:31.279 --> 01:40:33.479 does anyone want to go to Orleans? So I volunteered, 2094 01:40:33.520 --> 01:40:35.680 we all volunteered. We send So now we get picked 2095 01:40:35.680 --> 01:40:38.079 to go. So we go show up at JFK like 2096 01:40:38.239 --> 01:40:40.439 four in the morning. We get on this plane. We 2097 01:40:40.479 --> 01:40:43.279 get down there. It's like one hundred degrees like the 2098 01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:47.600 place is like in shambles. It's burning, you know. And 2099 01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:52.920 we go to some nursing home or some Catholic nursing 2100 01:40:52.960 --> 01:40:55.680 home on the other side. I forget the name of 2101 01:40:55.720 --> 01:41:00.239 it now, and we were like, I don't know, it's 2102 01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:01.840 just like we were on our own. We're trying to 2103 01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:04.279 like this guy Ritchie from one twenty four truck is 2104 01:41:04.319 --> 01:41:07.239 like opening them cans of like Campbell's, and we got 2105 01:41:07.239 --> 01:41:09.920 generators going, and like we're like, oh, we're you know 2106 01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:12.880 this is they don't want to see it really. So 2107 01:41:12.920 --> 01:41:16.119 then anyway, the next morning, about five in the morning, 2108 01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:20.359 it was like it was like being on an aircraft carrier. 2109 01:41:20.479 --> 01:41:22.720 This chief comes be goes, I need seventy five guys 2110 01:41:22.840 --> 01:41:25.720 right now. So everyone's jumping on rigs and more and 2111 01:41:25.720 --> 01:41:28.600 we're all flying and you know, in daylight now the 2112 01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:31.319 city's burning again, you know. And they had no water, 2113 01:41:32.079 --> 01:41:34.279 no water at all, so now they're drafting out of 2114 01:41:34.319 --> 01:41:37.399 the streams in the street and the lines are just 2115 01:41:37.520 --> 01:41:45.039 listen that. So anyway, so that night I heard that 2116 01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:49.359 there was seven trucks that were milk trucks converted to 2117 01:41:49.439 --> 01:41:51.600 water trucks and they were using in front of the 2118 01:41:51.680 --> 01:41:54.560 Verizon building to keep it cool, right, because they didn't 2119 01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:57.640 want to lose their communications. And I had this idea, 2120 01:41:57.720 --> 01:41:59.960 I said, I said to Mainz, I used the chief 2121 01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:01.720 at the time. I said, you know, Chief, I said, 2122 01:42:02.199 --> 01:42:03.880 do you think we could try to draft out of 2123 01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:05.800 some of these trucks and maybe we could use them 2124 01:42:05.800 --> 01:42:06.399 for water? 2125 01:42:06.600 --> 01:42:06.800 You know. 2126 01:42:07.239 --> 01:42:09.479 So I put together team and Frank Lee was my 2127 01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:12.520 main guy. He was at the time lieutenant in three 2128 01:42:12.600 --> 01:42:16.359 twenty four. I had Wayne Melton, Billy Butler. These guys 2129 01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:19.680 had all that kind of rural experience, you know. So 2130 01:42:19.680 --> 01:42:22.159 so Maine said to me him and Ceiling, I think 2131 01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:24.640 was another chief. He says, go ahead, knock yourself out. 2132 01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:26.920 So we went out and we tried drafting out of 2133 01:42:27.439 --> 01:42:29.800 a milk truck and it worked. So I go back 2134 01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:32.279 and I'm like Chief, I said, we were able to 2135 01:42:32.319 --> 01:42:34.600 do it. He goes, forget about the milk trucks. I 2136 01:42:34.640 --> 01:42:38.000 got you eighty water tenders from the wildland. So I'm like, 2137 01:42:38.079 --> 01:42:40.600 all right. So he says, I want you to take 2138 01:42:40.640 --> 01:42:43.840 them and make tesk forces. Right, So my pencil out, 2139 01:42:43.920 --> 01:42:46.359 I did twenty thousand how many gallons a minute? Blah 2140 01:42:46.399 --> 01:42:49.600 blah blah. I came up, I need five. You know Frank, 2141 01:42:50.079 --> 01:42:53.960 you know he knew the mechanics of the satellite, Wayne 2142 01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:56.800 Melton and Billy Butler knew how to do the drafting stuff, 2143 01:42:56.800 --> 01:42:59.479 and then we put together three test force right. Okay, 2144 01:42:59.520 --> 01:43:02.119 so now we got the test forces right. So one 2145 01:43:02.159 --> 01:43:05.000 day I'm out on my rounds. I got this guy, 2146 01:43:05.479 --> 01:43:08.199 he's the wildland guy. And I come up on these 2147 01:43:08.199 --> 01:43:09.680 guys and on the side of the rig, it says 2148 01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:13.960 rain dancers, right, And I said, what's the rain dancers. 2149 01:43:14.039 --> 01:43:16.640 He goes, oh, that's my company. I says, we work 2150 01:43:16.640 --> 01:43:19.279 in wildland fires. I said, oh cool, I said, so 2151 01:43:19.960 --> 01:43:21.720 from now on near the rain dancers. I was just 2152 01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:24.399 joking around, man. So next I saw the next group. 2153 01:43:24.479 --> 01:43:27.960 They were down on Decatur Street, and I said, hey, 2154 01:43:27.960 --> 01:43:29.439 you guys don't have a name. He goes, what do 2155 01:43:29.479 --> 01:43:31.880 you mean, Well, the other guy's the rain dancers. He goes, 2156 01:43:31.880 --> 01:43:37.279 hold on, we're the water wizards. Now they're the water wizards, right. 2157 01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:39.800 So now I see the next group and I'm like, 2158 01:43:40.079 --> 01:43:42.119 you know, we got two groups here, rain dancers in 2159 01:43:42.159 --> 01:43:44.479 the water. You don't even have a name. He goes, oh, yeah, 2160 01:43:44.479 --> 01:43:47.479 we give me a minute. And they're the water dogs right. 2161 01:43:47.600 --> 01:43:50.960 So then, anyway, it became a thing now because we 2162 01:43:51.239 --> 01:43:54.439 were dispatching them out of like the heck, like we 2163 01:43:54.479 --> 01:43:57.760 had a big tent. It was communications saying we were dispatching. 2164 01:43:57.800 --> 01:43:59.760 You know, they call you get a roll or whatever. 2165 01:44:00.039 --> 01:44:07.560 Water dogs stick that in. I just remember. 2166 01:44:09.760 --> 01:44:12.640 Walk out falling. Thought it was the greatest thing. Was like, 2167 01:44:12.840 --> 01:44:15.640 because now they weren't calling them task Force one A. 2168 01:44:16.479 --> 01:44:19.960 It was like, all right, water dogs taking this and nice. 2169 01:44:21.640 --> 01:44:23.439 It was w w. 2170 01:44:23.680 --> 01:44:25.159 Yeah, some deputy chief in. 2171 01:44:25.159 --> 01:44:27.880 The first come on. The guy loves telling stories. Another 2172 01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:28.560 guy can't get the. 2173 01:44:28.680 --> 01:44:29.920 I seen him down there, coops. 2174 01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:31.479 Did you what did you hit him up? 2175 01:44:31.920 --> 01:44:31.960 No? 2176 01:44:32.119 --> 01:44:33.960 I was talking with the other guys. 2177 01:44:34.279 --> 01:44:37.319 Oh bang them again today tomorrow. 2178 01:44:37.760 --> 01:44:40.840 But anyway, they used that water system for about two years. 2179 01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:44.279 I ran to a guy because I became on the 2180 01:44:44.319 --> 01:44:46.119 I M T. And then I met this guy. He says, yeah, 2181 01:44:46.119 --> 01:44:48.359 they used that system for two years. But they got 2182 01:44:48.359 --> 01:44:50.000 a big kick out of the names, you know, because 2183 01:44:50.279 --> 01:44:50.880 it was like, you. 2184 01:44:50.840 --> 01:44:56.439 Know, the water dogs, the water dog, the rain days, 2185 01:44:57.079 --> 01:44:58.680 the double the w d's. 2186 01:44:58.640 --> 01:45:00.079 Brows of H two o's. 2187 01:45:01.680 --> 01:45:03.279 Bultons, of the standpipes. 2188 01:45:05.239 --> 01:45:06.199 What once? 2189 01:45:06.279 --> 01:45:10.199 Once those those water resource groups went in the fires, 2190 01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:15.199 they had water. Now they had twenty thousand gallons of water. 2191 01:45:15.239 --> 01:45:16.840 Who is this Frank talking about? 2192 01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:20.359 Bring this guy out, Frank is this guy used to 2193 01:45:20.359 --> 01:45:23.840 be a lieutenant and him in the seventy six. He's 2194 01:45:23.880 --> 01:45:27.439 the reason why I ran my first marathon. Ah, I 2195 01:45:27.520 --> 01:45:31.279 was covering one day in the eleven botanions like because 2196 01:45:31.279 --> 01:45:32.800 I'm running the marathon. I said, you know what, I 2197 01:45:32.800 --> 01:45:34.560 always wanted to run a marathon. 2198 01:45:34.359 --> 01:45:36.000 And then I won up running the marathon. 2199 01:45:36.119 --> 01:45:39.479 So that was into what I thought about running the 2200 01:45:39.479 --> 01:45:48.479 marathon one day and then I ate a cookie instead. 2201 01:45:49.800 --> 01:45:51.680 Any other pictures gone Before we get to the. 2202 01:45:51.600 --> 01:45:53.479 Old noo, I mean, there's a couple of effort. 2203 01:45:53.479 --> 01:45:58.119 We're good, all right, all right, it's time for here 2204 01:45:58.159 --> 01:46:01.960 you go, chief, oh the old stoopid kit. 2205 01:46:08.039 --> 01:46:08.279 Away. 2206 01:46:09.840 --> 01:46:11.720 Well, I tell you as a five fighter, I mean, 2207 01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:13.319 if I could, if I could go back and do 2208 01:46:13.359 --> 01:46:18.359 things differently, probably would have just put the cotton in 2209 01:46:18.439 --> 01:46:20.359 my mouth, took it out of my ears and put 2210 01:46:20.359 --> 01:46:23.239 it in my mouth and listened. Then just doesn't matter 2211 01:46:23.319 --> 01:46:25.720 what they tell you, just like Yep, that's a good idea. 2212 01:46:25.880 --> 01:46:27.079 That sounds like a good idea. 2213 01:46:27.359 --> 01:46:27.560 Yep. 2214 01:46:28.920 --> 01:46:30.000 Don't never use the words. 2215 01:46:30.079 --> 01:46:30.359 I know. 2216 01:46:32.079 --> 01:46:32.239 You know. 2217 01:46:33.960 --> 01:46:36.920 It's tough though, because you know, like you're new and 2218 01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:38.960 you don't want to seem like you're dope, you know, 2219 01:46:39.079 --> 01:46:42.840 so like, but it's really the reverse is true. Like 2220 01:46:42.880 --> 01:46:45.600 when you're probably you really should just be like yeah, 2221 01:46:45.720 --> 01:46:48.279 even if you heard it ten times, yep, that's that's 2222 01:46:48.319 --> 01:46:52.680 great advice. Man, you know, thank you, so you know, 2223 01:46:53.159 --> 01:46:56.359 I mean, we all know, get to work early. You know. No, 2224 01:46:56.720 --> 01:47:00.600 I would tell you another thing as a firefighter, know 2225 01:47:00.720 --> 01:47:04.119 your tools. No if you if you're on an engine, 2226 01:47:04.399 --> 01:47:06.640 no way, everything on that rig is man, know how 2227 01:47:06.680 --> 01:47:09.680 they work everything. I don't care, it's im mess whatever 2228 01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:12.239 phone you know, I can tell your phone story about 2229 01:47:12.520 --> 01:47:14.000 you know, knowing foam. 2230 01:47:14.079 --> 01:47:14.840 But we don't have time. 2231 01:47:14.880 --> 01:47:18.279 But know your tools. If you're in the truck company, 2232 01:47:19.119 --> 01:47:23.119 take them out and drill with them, put ladders, put 2233 01:47:23.159 --> 01:47:26.960 them up, wash them, just get your hands on the tools. 2234 01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:28.960 That's I think this is why we watched the tools 2235 01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:32.560 just so it makes young firefighters, Uh, touch them and 2236 01:47:32.880 --> 01:47:33.479 work with them. 2237 01:47:33.640 --> 01:47:33.840 You know. 2238 01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:39.439 As a lieutenant a captain, I would say, trust your guys, 2239 01:47:39.520 --> 01:47:44.640 trust your firefighters, just you know, give them a lot 2240 01:47:44.640 --> 01:47:47.279 of give them a lot of space, man, you know, 2241 01:47:47.479 --> 01:47:50.880 and uh I had a few times I would tell guys, 2242 01:47:51.520 --> 01:47:53.720 you know, if you're having trouble at home with the 2243 01:47:53.800 --> 01:47:56.720 wife or whatever, you know, when you come in that door, 2244 01:47:56.960 --> 01:48:00.199 just leave those troubles in the car, man. And if 2245 01:48:00.239 --> 01:48:02.119 you if you need, then take time go call the 2246 01:48:02.119 --> 01:48:06.600 counseling unit whatever. But don't ever ever bring your troubles 2247 01:48:06.840 --> 01:48:09.520 into the firehouse because it's gonna it could get you 2248 01:48:09.600 --> 01:48:11.199 killed or could get somebody else to killed. 2249 01:48:11.279 --> 01:48:11.439 You know. 2250 01:48:11.560 --> 01:48:17.319 So but you know, as an officer, just really just 2251 01:48:17.319 --> 01:48:20.359 just lean on the guys, you know. You know, as 2252 01:48:20.399 --> 01:48:24.079 a chief, you know it's a silly tip, but you know, 2253 01:48:24.199 --> 01:48:26.640 use all your senses. I used to leave the windows 2254 01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:29.840 open if it was zero degrees or it was one 2255 01:48:29.880 --> 01:48:32.319 hundred degrees, the windows are open because you know, you 2256 01:48:32.399 --> 01:48:36.199 never know what you're going to be exposed to. I 2257 01:48:36.199 --> 01:48:38.039 mean I gave it ten seventy five one time, just 2258 01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:40.000 because I had the window open, and I smelled something 2259 01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:41.600 and turned out to be a top flur of fires. 2260 01:48:41.600 --> 01:48:47.760 So just keep the winders, be patient and trust the guys. 2261 01:48:47.880 --> 01:48:51.720 And as a chief, if you like I used to 2262 01:48:51.840 --> 01:48:54.239 love like if I get a tap on the shoulder, 2263 01:48:54.239 --> 01:48:56.159 like Teazo was great at that, he'd tap on the 2264 01:48:56.239 --> 01:48:59.520 chief shoulder in the fifth division, or you know, hey, Chief, 2265 01:48:59.520 --> 01:49:01.680 what about this? You know and Ralph, that's a good idea. 2266 01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:05.039 Want you check that out? Be open to like because 2267 01:49:05.079 --> 01:49:07.560 you can only see so much. You know, you're chief. 2268 01:49:08.359 --> 01:49:10.319 You don't have X ray vision. You gotta you gotta 2269 01:49:10.359 --> 01:49:12.960 get as much information as you can. And if someone 2270 01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:21.199 has a good idea, go with it. That's my basically my. 2271 01:49:24.359 --> 01:49:28.399 You're listening to your career. Great career, great five stories, 2272 01:49:28.680 --> 01:49:34.399 tremendous detail. I don't know how you remember all boss. 2273 01:49:34.399 --> 01:49:38.960 And they call it a spark. I have a they 2274 01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:42.399 call it a spark. They call it spot. 2275 01:49:42.399 --> 01:49:44.039 Wicked smart, they're. 2276 01:49:43.840 --> 01:49:45.000 Wicked, well, they're wicked smart. 2277 01:49:45.039 --> 01:49:46.079 My daughter is wicked smart. 2278 01:49:46.079 --> 01:49:50.439 She lives in Boston. You know, I always put on 2279 01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:52.479 a boss and accident she gets pistol because Dad, you're 2280 01:49:52.479 --> 01:49:53.479 not from Boston. 2281 01:49:53.800 --> 01:49:55.239 But you live in you know. 2282 01:49:56.560 --> 01:49:59.680 Yeah, I started doing at your car. You know, I 2283 01:49:59.720 --> 01:50:02.319 read directed my first two battalion chief with fire engineering, 2284 01:50:02.319 --> 01:50:03.960 and I have Eric Petaway from Boston. 2285 01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:05.880 He's my my. 2286 01:50:05.479 --> 01:50:08.439 My counterpart now and he's got like twenty two years 2287 01:50:08.439 --> 01:50:11.640 in Boston. He's just an amazing guy. And uh, we 2288 01:50:11.760 --> 01:50:14.199 started like a YouTube channel and it's just gonna be 2289 01:50:14.199 --> 01:50:18.439 all teaching stuff. We're calling it Imperium, which means command. 2290 01:50:18.880 --> 01:50:21.319 So it's like we've only done two episodes. We're hoping 2291 01:50:21.359 --> 01:50:25.479 that and I think it's on a podcast too. He's 2292 01:50:25.479 --> 01:50:28.159 got it set up with a podcast. We're gonna go 2293 01:50:28.279 --> 01:50:31.279 over sized up. We're gonna go right to cold as wealth. 2294 01:50:31.279 --> 01:50:33.359 We're gonna go right into tactics and strategies. 2295 01:50:33.359 --> 01:50:35.880 And what's the name of it. 2296 01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:42.000 Imperi imperium, the Latin word command. His name is Eric Petaway. 2297 01:50:42.079 --> 01:50:44.760 He's got his own channels and stuff, and he's got 2298 01:50:44.760 --> 01:50:47.760 some great stuff on his channels too. And then we 2299 01:50:47.800 --> 01:50:50.439 got the first two battalion chief of fire engineering. And 2300 01:50:52.720 --> 01:50:55.760 I guess I'm gonna be still a little finger to 2301 01:50:55.960 --> 01:50:57.720 in the fire department for the rest of my life, 2302 01:50:57.800 --> 01:51:01.000 right why not? I just you know what I'm afraid of, 2303 01:51:01.439 --> 01:51:04.000 what I'm afraid of, and I think hopefully now I'll 2304 01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:05.840 know when it's time. Like I don't everyone want to 2305 01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:08.159 become not relevant. I want I don't want to be 2306 01:51:08.159 --> 01:51:10.159 that guy over there in the corner, like, yeah, he 2307 01:51:10.199 --> 01:51:12.199 hasn't been in the firehouse in about ten years, so 2308 01:51:12.640 --> 01:51:15.840 we're not going to you know, I you know, I 2309 01:51:15.920 --> 01:51:18.520 call you scrimpsky, you know what call. And those guys 2310 01:51:18.560 --> 01:51:20.600 were great in their days. But you know what, at 2311 01:51:20.600 --> 01:51:22.720 some time it's time to pass. 2312 01:51:22.800 --> 01:51:24.279 And I want to hold them and I want to 2313 01:51:24.319 --> 01:51:24.800 fold them. 2314 01:51:25.079 --> 01:51:26.680 Time to pass the tork. So I think I have 2315 01:51:26.760 --> 01:51:30.039 a few years left. I still have, you know, still 2316 01:51:30.520 --> 01:51:32.399 the memories are still a little fresh, so I think 2317 01:51:32.399 --> 01:51:33.960 it fresh. 2318 01:51:34.760 --> 01:51:37.119 I remember what box he went to, you know, thirty 2319 01:51:37.199 --> 01:51:39.880 years via crazy roughy. What do you have for breakfast? 2320 01:51:39.880 --> 01:51:42.479 This point, I can't tell you what I put my 2321 01:51:42.680 --> 01:51:44.560 I can't even tell you. 2322 01:51:44.359 --> 01:51:48.479 But there's a guy and I had a super chat before. 2323 01:51:49.039 --> 01:51:52.800 Yeah, he was asking about the hip boots. He was 2324 01:51:52.840 --> 01:51:57.840 asking his question is Alex because because uh, he's asking 2325 01:51:57.840 --> 01:52:00.199 about the switch from three quarter to hip boo to 2326 01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:03.840 long coats to the bunker gear. He guess he wants 2327 01:52:03.880 --> 01:52:05.399 to know what your thoughts are when you guys made 2328 01:52:05.399 --> 01:52:07.600 the transition from boots to bunker pants. 2329 01:52:07.760 --> 01:52:10.159 So that was nineteen ninety three, and I could tell you. 2330 01:52:10.800 --> 01:52:13.039 I could tell you it was a very tough transition 2331 01:52:13.119 --> 01:52:14.960 because I was in forty one and it was a 2332 01:52:15.119 --> 01:52:19.600 summer day. It was July, and it was a Sunday. 2333 01:52:19.680 --> 01:52:22.000 I was I was thinking, I was doing a rosta 2334 01:52:22.239 --> 01:52:24.720 and I'm thinking, like Sunday afternoon, it's gonna be nice 2335 01:52:24.720 --> 01:52:26.840 and chill, even though it was one hundred degrees out 2336 01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:30.960 and I was drinking coffee in the kitchen and that 2337 01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:32.720 never would be a problem. But you had to remember 2338 01:52:32.720 --> 01:52:36.680 to forty one's rig. We had like the engine it 2339 01:52:36.720 --> 01:52:38.800 was just metal like it was like it was like 2340 01:52:38.800 --> 01:52:40.399 one hundred and fifty degrees and at rig. 2341 01:52:40.479 --> 01:52:42.640 So we go to a job hot as fuck. 2342 01:52:43.159 --> 01:52:45.239 We go to a job on Walton Avenue, and I 2343 01:52:45.239 --> 01:52:48.439 remember carrying a saw up to the roof and working 2344 01:52:48.520 --> 01:52:50.800 or whatever, and then we get back down and then 2345 01:52:50.800 --> 01:52:54.800 we get another job in Washington Heights and I didn't 2346 01:52:54.840 --> 01:52:56.800 even take my coat off, and I'm still in my 2347 01:52:56.920 --> 01:52:59.880 coat and I put the saw back and then we're 2348 01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:03.079 responding up to one hundred and seventy fourth and whatever. 2349 01:53:03.720 --> 01:53:07.000 And I remember going up to the front fire escape, 2350 01:53:07.359 --> 01:53:11.000 and I just I don't remember anything else. I passed out. Really, 2351 01:53:11.399 --> 01:53:14.079 I collapsed on the fire skate and I was just 2352 01:53:14.159 --> 01:53:17.399 overheated because I had no water. I was drinking coffee 2353 01:53:17.399 --> 01:53:19.960 all morning, and I wasn't used to the bunker gear, 2354 01:53:20.479 --> 01:53:22.760 you know. So that was a rude awakening. 2355 01:53:22.800 --> 01:53:22.920 Man. 2356 01:53:22.960 --> 01:53:26.319 I was very embarrassed by that because that never had happened, because, 2357 01:53:26.319 --> 01:53:28.439 you know, when I was in seventeen, as I got 2358 01:53:28.439 --> 01:53:30.359 a little older, I you know, I was doing the 2359 01:53:30.399 --> 01:53:32.399 roof and stuff. I didn't even wear the hippoots anymore, 2360 01:53:32.439 --> 01:53:35.800 you know. And now I'm wearing the snowsuit in the 2361 01:53:35.800 --> 01:53:39.520 middle of one hundred degree summer day, carrying a saw 2362 01:53:39.640 --> 01:53:41.960 and a mask on my back in a rig that's 2363 01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:45.520 one hundred and fifty degrees, so I think. But what 2364 01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:47.960 I saw with the bunker gear is that the burn 2365 01:53:48.039 --> 01:53:51.800 injuries went down tremendously. Like I remember I got burnt 2366 01:53:51.800 --> 01:53:53.399 that job I was telling you about with Timmy on 2367 01:53:53.439 --> 01:53:55.279 a hundred and four their street, Like we all got 2368 01:53:55.279 --> 01:53:57.840 burnt at that fire. But that was normal. I mean, 2369 01:53:58.039 --> 01:54:00.159 the embers and everything goes down in the water. It 2370 01:54:00.199 --> 01:54:02.560 was down your boots even in the towel line. I mean, 2371 01:54:02.600 --> 01:54:05.439 how water everything's going down your boots now, the bunker gear, 2372 01:54:06.399 --> 01:54:08.159 no one, No one was getting burned anymore. 2373 01:54:08.439 --> 01:54:12.039 I mean it really eliminated the knee burns. I mean tremendously. 2374 01:54:12.279 --> 01:54:14.319 I mean guys, once in a while we're getting burns, 2375 01:54:14.359 --> 01:54:18.359 I mean some crazy jobs or whatever, but not like 2376 01:54:18.439 --> 01:54:20.239 we were in the beginning. I mean every job you 2377 01:54:20.319 --> 01:54:24.119 go to, guys were getting burned at every job. It 2378 01:54:24.199 --> 01:54:28.479 was just a normal it was, you know, doing business. 2379 01:54:28.560 --> 01:54:30.840 And we had no hoods back then, so you know, 2380 01:54:31.079 --> 01:54:34.279 your coat was open, you had no you maybe put 2381 01:54:34.279 --> 01:54:35.479 your flaps down if you're lucky. 2382 01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:36.039 You know. 2383 01:54:37.319 --> 01:54:39.199 Sometimes guys didn't even wear gloves. I mean it was 2384 01:54:39.199 --> 01:54:42.239 like they're wearing the Red Bulls and the wild West. 2385 01:54:42.680 --> 01:54:44.359 Yeah, I'll tell you. 2386 01:54:45.560 --> 01:54:47.000 I know we're running out of time, so I don't 2387 01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:48.800 want to a lot. But you know, it's things are 2388 01:54:48.800 --> 01:54:52.000 different the fires today, with the plastics and everything. I 2389 01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:53.800 don't think you'd get away with it today with the 2390 01:54:54.600 --> 01:54:56.399 stuff that we did back in the eighties. 2391 01:54:56.439 --> 01:54:58.000 You know, it's different. 2392 01:54:58.159 --> 01:54:59.880 It's a different animal today, you know. 2393 01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:02.279 Yep, you have no doubt about that. 2394 01:55:02.960 --> 01:55:05.800 Coops, you have a health and safety tip. I do okay. 2395 01:55:07.119 --> 01:55:09.439 The First Responder Center for Excellence is a not for 2396 01:55:09.520 --> 01:55:13.079 profit organization dedicated to protecting their lives and livelihoods of 2397 01:55:13.199 --> 01:55:16.760 first responders. Their education and research initiatives aim to bring 2398 01:55:16.840 --> 01:55:21.000 greater awareness and understanding the challenges to the health, safety, 2399 01:55:21.039 --> 01:55:24.239 and well being of firefighters, EMS, personnel, and other first 2400 01:55:24.279 --> 01:55:27.399 responders too. They are an affiliate of the National Fallen 2401 01:55:27.560 --> 01:55:28.880 Firefighter Foundation. 2402 01:55:30.359 --> 01:55:33.920 All right, so today's health and safety tip it comes 2403 01:55:33.920 --> 01:55:36.000 from today. When I started my first day of PT 2404 01:55:36.199 --> 01:55:38.439 for my knee replacement. I went in. There's like five 2405 01:55:38.520 --> 01:55:42.319 friggin five and sitting in the bro so and I 2406 01:55:42.359 --> 01:55:43.960 said to the one that I'm like, listen, man, if 2407 01:55:44.359 --> 01:55:46.920 the job doesn't kill you, it will beat the living 2408 01:55:46.960 --> 01:55:49.279 shit out of you over the cost of twenty years. 2409 01:55:49.279 --> 01:55:52.560 So I know it's hard. Everybody doesn't have to be 2410 01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:54.880 a fanatic when it comes to working out, but try 2411 01:55:54.880 --> 01:55:58.560 to keep the you know, a decent body weight, stretch, 2412 01:55:58.720 --> 01:56:02.199 do some exercise caudio. Just later on in your years. 2413 01:56:02.319 --> 01:56:05.039 You want to be able to enjoy the your your 2414 01:56:05.159 --> 01:56:07.479 retirement like my buddy Rouffy, you know, fly all over 2415 01:56:07.479 --> 01:56:09.199 the country, shoot and ship and hit. 2416 01:56:09.840 --> 01:56:11.039 So that's what you want to do. 2417 01:56:11.159 --> 01:56:13.920 It's a nice little bit something to stay active at 2418 01:56:13.920 --> 01:56:16.800 the you know, stay at a decent body weight and uh, 2419 01:56:17.439 --> 01:56:18.119 enjoy your time. 2420 01:56:18.479 --> 01:56:20.199 Maintain, man, what's gonna do is maintain. 2421 01:56:22.319 --> 01:56:25.319 I gotta text some Nancy as I'm talking, she's talking 2422 01:56:25.359 --> 01:56:28.359 about her ride again, looking for guys to come on 2423 01:56:28.399 --> 01:56:30.720 the Ride's gonna put them up right. 2424 01:56:30.600 --> 01:56:33.039 Now, Okay, I have well I'll pull up the whole thing, 2425 01:56:33.039 --> 01:56:33.560 but I have this. 2426 01:56:33.560 --> 01:56:36.039 This is the first part of it, and let me 2427 01:56:36.039 --> 01:56:37.880 share my email that where you guys can read the 2428 01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:38.640 entire thing here. 2429 01:56:38.720 --> 01:56:41.039 They do a nice job, the Friends of fire Fighters. 2430 01:56:41.039 --> 01:56:42.960 I mean so. 2431 01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:46.720 Uh it's through Friends of Firefighters, right. They can find 2432 01:56:46.760 --> 01:56:49.840 the information on through Firefighters Friends of Firefighters right down 2433 01:56:49.880 --> 01:56:50.640 on the website. 2434 01:56:50.880 --> 01:56:53.279 Right, So put up, I sent your big text, right Yeah. 2435 01:56:53.159 --> 01:56:55.239 Yeah, I'm gonna just share my email. That's a link 2436 01:56:55.279 --> 01:56:55.720 the email. 2437 01:56:56.279 --> 01:56:58.399 But I think I think she's opening up now to 2438 01:56:58.640 --> 01:56:59.560 even the whole country. 2439 01:56:59.720 --> 01:57:03.439 I mean, that's good. We got to keep sending stuff 2440 01:57:03.439 --> 01:57:06.199 over there, guys. I know we had a show on it, 2441 01:57:06.239 --> 01:57:08.279 but just because we had one show doesn't mean that 2442 01:57:08.359 --> 01:57:09.239 we stopped sending. 2443 01:57:09.760 --> 01:57:14.159 It's a little harder, guys to see, but it's the 2444 01:57:14.279 --> 01:57:17.000 riders from Stotsbury or September third to the thirteenth of 2445 01:57:17.039 --> 01:57:20.920 this year. It's an unforgettable ride Ireland to raise awareness 2446 01:57:20.920 --> 01:57:23.399 for our first respond with mental health and it supports 2447 01:57:23.439 --> 01:57:25.199 Friends of Firefighters. 2448 01:57:25.680 --> 01:57:28.560 You've done that ride, right, Chief, Yeah, last year I 2449 01:57:28.600 --> 01:57:30.840 did it, but I don't know. 2450 01:57:31.119 --> 01:57:33.920 So it's over in Island and it's a good cause. 2451 01:57:34.640 --> 01:57:37.520 It's a great cause, the mental health. I think you're 2452 01:57:37.560 --> 01:57:40.319 looking to do this up in Boston now, and uh huh. 2453 01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:43.479 If anyone from the whole country wants to join in 2454 01:57:43.520 --> 01:57:46.039 on their ride, I would get in touch with Nancy and. 2455 01:57:46.760 --> 01:57:50.680 You can reach her at www dot Friendsoffirefighters dot org 2456 01:57:50.760 --> 01:57:51.079 or if you. 2457 01:57:51.079 --> 01:57:53.760 Want to there we sorry. 2458 01:57:53.880 --> 01:57:56.960 So if you want to contribute, it's very It's a 2459 01:57:57.079 --> 01:58:00.720 mental awareness man. And we had that show on and 2460 01:58:00.840 --> 01:58:02.159 I can't tell you how many guys came up to 2461 01:58:02.159 --> 01:58:04.239 the booth ruff and said, thank God, thank thank you 2462 01:58:04.239 --> 01:58:05.079 for having that show on. 2463 01:58:06.520 --> 01:58:07.359 It's every time. 2464 01:58:07.800 --> 01:58:10.680 Yeah, So please give what you can, even if it's 2465 01:58:10.680 --> 01:58:13.279 five dollars, ten dollars, whatever it is, send it over there, 2466 01:58:13.439 --> 01:58:15.479 send it, send it, send it. And we have a 2467 01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:16.960 couple of lines of duties, right Johns. 2468 01:58:17.359 --> 01:58:19.399 Yes, let me bring up their pictures, so because they 2469 01:58:19.399 --> 01:58:24.199 have their names on them, there's Baltimore City, Uh, Lieutenant 2470 01:58:24.239 --> 01:58:26.520 Mark Drevis. I believe this was a gentleman that fell 2471 01:58:26.560 --> 01:58:29.079 from the truck or fell down the ladder, and I 2472 01:58:29.119 --> 01:58:32.199 believe he succumbed to his injuries. It was within if 2473 01:58:32.199 --> 01:58:34.199 I'm not mistaken, it was within a week that they 2474 01:58:34.199 --> 01:58:35.600 have both of these gentlemen. 2475 01:58:36.319 --> 01:58:37.800 Away in a beating the last week. 2476 01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:40.479 Yeah, and this, I believe this was a gentleman who 2477 01:58:40.479 --> 01:58:43.359 had a cardiac event over a medical event during training. 2478 01:58:43.800 --> 01:58:47.239 So those guys that are out there training anything obviously 2479 01:58:47.279 --> 01:58:49.960 be safe. And well, I guess Kob's going to ring 2480 01:58:50.000 --> 01:58:50.840 the bells for him. 2481 01:58:51.079 --> 01:58:53.159 Yeah. We also had two guys in the UK I 2482 01:58:53.159 --> 01:58:56.359 think died in a warehouse fire. So let's do the 2483 01:58:56.359 --> 01:59:09.720 five bells for the line of duty. Yeah, rest in peace, brothers, 2484 01:59:10.079 --> 01:59:12.039 that's for sure, all right? Rook? What do we have 2485 01:59:12.119 --> 01:59:12.520 next week? 2486 01:59:12.520 --> 01:59:12.680 Man? 2487 01:59:12.680 --> 01:59:13.640 We have a guest next week? 2488 01:59:14.039 --> 01:59:14.399 You do? 2489 01:59:15.239 --> 01:59:17.000 I have my operation next week. I'm not going to 2490 01:59:17.039 --> 01:59:17.319 be here. 2491 01:59:17.359 --> 01:59:18.159 How dare you? 2492 01:59:18.640 --> 01:59:19.880 And I have mine a week after? 2493 01:59:19.920 --> 01:59:19.960 Do? 2494 01:59:20.039 --> 01:59:22.800 We're all getting fixed up around the dog? 2495 01:59:22.840 --> 01:59:25.239 Did I tell you got to stay in shape? Showing 2496 01:59:25.279 --> 01:59:26.039 his fingers. 2497 01:59:27.359 --> 01:59:28.479 Oh you got that, little guy. 2498 01:59:29.319 --> 01:59:33.399 It's the crawl next week. 2499 01:59:33.560 --> 01:59:40.079 He's every fire shots into the golf swing though perfect. 2500 01:59:39.800 --> 01:59:45.319 Right, perfect, Oklahoma might screw up, I might screw up. 2501 01:59:45.359 --> 01:59:48.119 You might be shaking a ball night that happened. 2502 01:59:48.119 --> 01:59:48.359 I know. 2503 01:59:48.399 --> 01:59:54.119 I love the Craws Chief. Thank you so much for 2504 01:59:54.199 --> 01:59:55.600 coming on, your love for the job. 2505 01:59:55.800 --> 01:59:57.840 Just losing grew man. 2506 01:59:58.079 --> 02:00:00.239 You know you didn't get the name Spocky for out 2507 02:00:00.239 --> 02:00:03.439 to sparking you and you know what you want walk. 2508 02:00:03.880 --> 02:00:06.560 You've been in all busy places your whole career following 2509 02:00:06.560 --> 02:00:07.319 the fire around. 2510 02:00:07.359 --> 02:00:10.119 Good for you. I had the privilege of working for you, 2511 02:00:10.199 --> 02:00:13.000 even though it was a couple of tours, but knowing 2512 02:00:13.039 --> 02:00:16.920 you as well, appreciate it. Thank you all right, boys, 2513 02:00:17.479 --> 02:00:20.159 ladies and gentlemen, thanks for coming in. We will see 2514 02:00:20.199 --> 02:00:22.640 you well, at least roof you might not. We'll see 2515 02:00:22.640 --> 02:00:25.000 some press for Roofie that night. And the bed fingers 2516 02:00:25.079 --> 02:00:28.560 crossed baking to cross you may. I called the lady 2517 02:00:28.600 --> 02:00:29.319 and get them on too. 2518 02:00:30.079 --> 02:00:31.520 I was gonna say, we're gonna go to the bullpen. 2519 02:00:31.760 --> 02:00:34.159 We gotta go to the bullpen. All right, guys, We'll 2520 02:00:34.159 --> 02:00:36.039 see you next week. Until then, stay low. 2521 02:00:35.920 --> 02:00:38.399 And go and everybody will see it, the big one. 2522 02:00:38.399 --> 02:00:39.199 Thanks again, Chief. 2523 02:00:39.359 --> 02:00:41.640 All Right, guys, have a great night. Remember we're rolling 2524 02:00:41.680 --> 02:00:47.399 heavy down here in South. Take care, guys, a good night. 2525 02:00:48.640 --> 02:00:49.520 Hold on thinking