WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.920 --> 00:00:04.799 But yeah, if Christians were more authentic with their faith, I. 2 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:06.040 Think it would reach more people. 3 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:08.560 And like you said, there is a bullshit meter for sure, 4 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:11.400 and like saying something like that, say the word bullshit 5 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:13.599 like in your podcast right now, people would clip that 6 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:15.640 and be like, I'm going to unfollow jesse speaks because 7 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:17.879 he said that word one time, you know. 8 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:18.239 What I mean. 9 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:22.160 And I hate that tiny little thing that I feel 10 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:24.600 like a lot of Christians do. This man found the Lord, 11 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:27.079 he got baptized, all right, how was the baptism. 12 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:29.239 Was it a full submersion? Was he you know? Was 13 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.480 it just his head and ears? Because if it's not, 14 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:32.399 then it's not legit. 15 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:35.520 And it's like it's so many technicalities, bro that That's 16 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:37.320 the one thing I don't like. I feel like Christians 17 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:40.759 sway new believers to not be Christians, you know what 18 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:43.280 I mean. And it's a scary thing. And I feel 19 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:45.560 like that's what's wrong with obviously the church. I'm not 20 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.600 a big fan of the politics and the corruption of church. 21 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:56.359 I'm here to expose those things. What's going on? Everybody. 22 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:58.759 My name is Jessin Speaks, and I'm with Justin on 23 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:00.359 the Prometheus Less. 24 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:04.239 Let's dive in the disclaimer to the fair season Karen's 25 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:06.719 out There, Oh Dare You ill? Guests on the show 26 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:10.519 do not reflect the opinions of the host. The purpose 27 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:12.560 of the show is to have interesting conversations, stretch our 28 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:13.319 minds and grow. 29 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:14.959 We're not what we want. 30 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:17.879 If you are looking for an echo chamber viewer and 31 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:18.959 listener discretion. 32 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:25.239 Did you talk about extreme? 33 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:36.319 What is happening? And what is up? Hold out your 34 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:38.439 glass because we're about to feel it up. 35 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:44.120 All things continually lead back to serpents, dragons, fairies, nepheline, 36 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:47.359 and fallen angels. In the distance looms a mystical mountain. 37 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:48.840 As Mike Kaiser used to say, if it's in the 38 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:51.480 Bible and it's weird, it's probably important. At its peak, 39 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:56.519 a great fire burns, concealing the Prometheus lens. 40 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:01.200 This development of this knowledge being talked about within the 41 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:02.359 mystery schools. 42 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:05.040 An ancient artifact said to reveal the hidden truth within 43 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:06.680 a deliberately darkened world. 44 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:09.360 There is a hidden history that's been deliberately obscated from the. 45 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:10.159 People's ol world. 46 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:13.560 Join us as we travel and explore the vast unknown. 47 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:18.319 It's a hero's journey with dragons to slay, damsels to save, 48 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.439 and innumerable treasures to hoard. 49 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:28.599 Torches high the Smithsonian they call wind of a giant's belt, 50 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.159 would send their agents out to get it. 51 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:37.400 But it takes courage to move forward, to move out 52 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:43.560 of the shadows, out of the unreality that we think of, 53 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:44.960 this reality. 54 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:48.560 We are all on the hero's journey. 55 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:55.560 Mankind has been in contact with and influenced by extraterrestrials. 56 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:59.319 Leave the sitient mound of bull feathers out of it. 57 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:04.159 Look at it from a different perspective, different perspective, different. 58 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:16.199 Hey, what is happening and what is up? Hold out 59 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:20.719 your glass because I'm about to fill it up. Welcome 60 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:23.919 to the Prometheus Lens podcast, the place where the conversations 61 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:27.479 are always enlightening. I'm your host, Justin and here we 62 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:30.879 like to use the allegory of the Prometheus Lens to 63 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:34.439 take a second look at everything. Hey, if you knew 64 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.319 to the channel, welcome to the Hero's Journey. Hit that 65 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:40.039 like button, Hit that subscribe button. Be sure to check 66 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:42.319 out all my social media is down below. Check me 67 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:46.159 out on my various platforms. That'd be much much appreciated. Well, guys, 68 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:49.360 I'd like to welcome you to another just fantastic show. 69 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:52.120 This is a gentleman that I've been following for almost 70 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:55.599 two years now and been really inspired by his reels 71 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:59.520 and just the work he does. Man, he is a maniac. 72 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:03.120 He's a with what he does, and he loves what 73 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:05.199 he does because it comes through in his work. Man. 74 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:07.560 But I like to welcome to the show Jesse from 75 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:09.840 Jesse Speaks. Thank you so much for your time, Jesse. 76 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:12.639 Absolutely. Man, Hey, dude, I appreciate the invite. Man, glad 77 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:13.080 to be here. 78 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:15.919 Yeah. I was talking to you pre ro. I was like, 79 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:18.199 I've been following you for about two years now and 80 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:21.800 you got just a massive following. The Lord has blessed it, yes, 81 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:24.240 And I was just like, man, I'm want to reach 82 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:26.120 out to this guy. The worst thing can happen is 83 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:27.600 he ignore me. Right. 84 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:32.199 Yeah, honestly, man, I'm happy you did bro, and I'm 85 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:34.439 happy the way you did it because you kept going 86 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:36.040 and pushing and pushing. And the thing is, it's like 87 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:37.920 I get buried by so many comments that don't ever 88 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:39.560 mean to be rude or mean or ever even pass 89 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:42.439 up on an opportunity to talk about God and life, 90 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:44.639 you know what I mean? With another fellow human being. 91 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:47.199 But I'm glad you did because definitely got my attention. 92 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:48.199 I'm happy to be here, man. 93 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:52.079 Yeah, and that's just my personality. I've told a lot 94 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:56.040 of my podcasting friends because Lord's blessed my show, and 95 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:58.360 I've had a lot of you know, big name guests 96 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:00.920 in these circles, and a lot of guys are just like, 97 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:03.199 how did you get you know, Steve Quail on your show? 98 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:06.879 How did you get Timothy Alberino. I'm like, right, I asked, 99 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:10.199 And the ones that didn't respond, I just emailed them 100 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:14.480 once a month consistently until they've probably either seen my 101 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:17.000 email or got tired of reading my email. 102 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:24.120 Yes, that's funny, though, man. Consistency Rhot's king in every aspect. 103 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:25.279 Yeah. 104 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:28.319 Yeah, there's old saying that I love so much. I 105 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:32.399 had it tattooed on my arm. Dripping water hollow stone, 106 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:34.639 not by force, but with persistence. 107 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:35.560 That's right, bro. 108 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:38.759 I've actually seen some videos like on Facebook and stuff 109 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:40.600 where you got the stones being carved out by that 110 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:43.480 one drop. That's all it takes. I take a little while, 111 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:45.079 but you know, eventually, man, you're gonna break through. 112 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:49.319 Yeah. Well, for those that have not found you, which 113 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:51.920 I find that hard pressed. I was even talking to 114 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:54.040 my mother and I was describing you, and she says, yes, 115 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:57.279 I've seen his video. You know, even my mother knew 116 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:57.759 who you were. 117 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:00.360 Thank God for moms. Dude. 118 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.800 Yeah, man, our biggest cheerleaders. 119 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:05.600 That's it. That's the truth. Man. My mom was a 120 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:07.480 lot so she would feel the same. 121 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:11.759 Oh yeah, for those that have not found your content, 122 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.720 just kind of give everybody an introduction to you know, 123 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:17.199 who Jesse is, what your content is, and what you 124 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:18.240 do for sure. 125 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:20.959 So basically, you know, I've been a big fan of 126 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:24.879 obviously Christianity. I'm a believer in Jesus Christ, and I'm 127 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:26.720 a big fan of science. I'm also a big fan 128 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:28.600 of philosophy. So I found a way to kind of 129 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.399 converge all these things together, compile them all together, i 130 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:33.639 should say. And I wanted to build like some sort 131 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:36.839 of like online convenience store, right like you can follow me, 132 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:39.079 you can get your fix on any of those three topics, 133 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:41.759 all of them with the umbrella of Christianity and bringing 134 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:44.279 people to the light and to the truth. And I 135 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:46.560 felt that after I did that, man, you know, like 136 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:48.560 I said about two years in posts, you know, before 137 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:50.959 we got into this, it was about two years and 138 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:52.920 then all of a sudden, I started seeing there's a 139 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:53.800 lot of people that kind. 140 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:55.360 Of relate to it. They feel the same way. 141 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:57.800 There's a lot of intrinsic questions I think every human 142 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:01.120 being has, and I'm just trying to offer you know, 143 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:03.240 I don't want to say unbiased, but majority of it 144 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:07.319 is pretty unbiased opinions and thoughts and other specialists that 145 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:09.279 have been on my account or on my podcast to 146 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:12.319 kind of help to answer these deep intrinsic questions that 147 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:13.680 we all have. And I feel that a lot of 148 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:16.199 people like it, and I just continue doing it every 149 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.160 single day. Man, I haven't missed a beat. 150 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:22.439 Yeah yeah, because you're consistently putting out at least, you know, 151 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:24.800 two to three reels every single day. 152 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:27.120 It's it's madhouse, bro, it is. 153 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:28.839 My wife has to come in the room and be like, 154 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:30.279 you know, it's time to eat, and I'm like, oh yeah, 155 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:31.480 I forgot I have to eat, you know. 156 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:35.079 Oh yeah, being a human man, you know, and all. 157 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:41.000 These exactly, Well, what was the trigger factor? I mean 158 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.639 what you just scrolling one day and hey man, I 159 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:47.000 could do that. You've seen some guy that inspired you 160 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:49.120 how did that? I'll just get started. 161 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:52.040 So a good question, man. So I was a barber 162 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:54.560 for fifteen years, and it was a great run. I 163 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:56.920 don't regret any bit of it, but I will say 164 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:58.959 that it wasn't I mean itw was. 165 00:07:59.040 --> 00:07:59.839 The last fifteen years. 166 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:03.480 Started feeling that it wasn't maybe satisfying, you know, like 167 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:04.839 I felt like there was so much more that I 168 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:07.079 had to offer the world and it was not between, 169 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:09.959 you know, in the in the confines of the barbershop. 170 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:11.759 Although I love cutting hair and I feel like I 171 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:14.120 traveled the world without ever leaving the barbershop, having so 172 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:16.560 many great conversations with people and leading people to God 173 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:18.399 and just helping them out in every way I can. 174 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.120 I was like, there's got to be a bigger way. 175 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.399 If I had this kind of a heart sitting here 176 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:24.959 for fifteen minutes on somebody's hair, there's got to be 177 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:28.319 a way that I can expand it. And I sat there, Honestly, bro, 178 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:30.920 I tell people this story everything every time I can. 179 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:32.080 I sat here on the. 180 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:34.720 Office floor and I looked up at my popcorn ceiling 181 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:37.559 and I said, God, you know you brought me this far. 182 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.159 I got a wife, I got a kid, now I got, 183 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:41.480 you know, a home and all these great things you'd 184 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:44.159 get as being an adult, right you start leveling up 185 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:46.559 in life. But there was still that feeling deep down 186 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:49.559 inside that I could not quite answer. And I asked God, 187 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:50.960 you know, like what do you want me to do? 188 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:53.759 And he literally was telling me, Bro, like when I 189 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:55.000 was laying there on the ground, He's like, you know, 190 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:58.360 you should try TikTok. He had on TikTok and share 191 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:01.039 the things that you like, the little hobby things that 192 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:03.440 you research, because I'll be watching Jordan Peterson before I 193 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:06.519 even blew up, Bro, I've been watching Joe Rogan and asked, 194 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:10.039 you know, the creepy Creatures and stuff like that, like 195 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:13.840 all these different podcasts that were just like super conspiracy. 196 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:13.360 You know. 197 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.960 But then at the same note, I also loved Christianity 198 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:18.879 and God and I wanted to answer those questions. And 199 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:20.559 that's why I kind of put them all together, bro. 200 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:22.960 And that's that's something that I like to tell a 201 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:24.559 lot of people too. It's like, you might not know 202 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:27.320 exactly what God is going to put you on in 203 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:30.159 this world, right, but he will create a path for 204 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.360 you to start following based off the purpose that he 205 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:35.559 put inside of your heart, and as you follow and 206 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:38.120 progress through that, it seems like he just keeps opening 207 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:40.919 all these doors of opportunity. And that's where I kind 208 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:41.600 of just went with him. 209 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:41.759 Man. 210 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:47.120 Yeah, that's awesome too, because just knowing that, because with me, 211 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:50.519 I listened to a lot of those podcasts like you 212 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:53.720 were talking about and was fascinated by them, and I 213 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:58.320 love Jordan Peterson, yeah, and all those similar interests. And 214 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:02.159 I was always a big history and ever since I 215 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:08.039 read Michael Heyser's Unseen Realm, I see the Bible with 216 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:12.519 this supernatural you know, set of glasses now, yes, right, 217 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:15.879 and it's like when I look at everything, it all filters, thugh, 218 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:22.799 So it doesn't matter. So conspiracy theory, Bigfoot, ancient loss, civilizations, right, 219 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:27.879 all of these fascinating subjects filter right through the supernatural 220 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:31.039 worldview of the Bible. And I was like, there's lots 221 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:34.159 of podcasts that talks about you know, X, Y or Z, 222 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:37.480 but I like X Y n Z and I think 223 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:40.840 I can tie them all together, so let's just try that. 224 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:43.639 That's right, bron, You're absolutely right. I mean, honestly, dude, 225 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:45.960 I'm a big fan of just if you seek the truth. 226 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.559 The truth is the thing that you base everything off of, 227 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:51.399 right Like it's the strongest substance in the entire universe. 228 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:53.120 You know, God has based his word off truth. His 229 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:56.000 word is truth. So if it's bigfoot, throw bigfoot out 230 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.000 the truth. And if it's sticks, it's sticks, it's truth. 231 00:10:58.039 --> 00:10:59.639 You know what I mean? Like the truth thinking a 232 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:01.600 fatal way, you know what I mean. 233 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:04.679 So I'm a big fan of that superro that's cool. 234 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:08.759 And what's cool is now that I know that you 235 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:11.639 were a barber. Yeah, you could even do you a 236 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:15.000 little side show cutting people's hair in a podcast, because 237 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:17.279 I mean that's a therapy session in itself. 238 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.679 Anyway, Hey do that's a great idea. Set it up 239 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:22.919 like in the barbershop itself, and then just talk like 240 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:24.559 a one on one with somebody, Just call. 241 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:25.240 It one on one. 242 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:26.519 There you go. 243 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:28.559 That's cool to write that down. Bro. 244 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.960 Well, out of all the guests and stuff that you've had, 245 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:37.879 do you have anybody that's like a dream guest for you, 246 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:40.039 that was somebody that you were just so excited to 247 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:40.720 get And. 248 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:43.919 I will say, yeah, I mean I grew up with 249 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:47.360 doctor Kent Hoven and I saw that you had posted 250 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:49.679 some things about him too, And when I had him 251 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:51.480 on it was kind of like, you know, he was 252 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:54.960 very big into obviously, like creationism, right, like explaining dinosaurs 253 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.120 and the the atmosphere, the firmament, the high oxygen levels 254 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:00.519 and things like that. So when I kind of like 255 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:02.600 how you were saying before, you kind of compile that 256 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:04.120 and put that through the truth of the Bible of 257 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:05.799 the lens and it kind of it makes all It 258 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:07.840 makes a lot of sense, you know. So when I 259 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:10.240 was younger, I was very fascinated with stuff like that. 260 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:12.039 So when I had him as my guest, it was 261 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:15.399 cool to ask him some really deep questions. Like one 262 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:17.720 of the questions I asked actually asked him because he's 263 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:20.720 really big into rocks too, you know, different layers and sediments, 264 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:22.600 sary rocks and and just. 265 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:23.279 Dinosaurs, you know. 266 00:12:23.399 --> 00:12:26.519 So I was like, do you believe that maybe you 267 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:29.200 know the way that the Bible describes Heaven the gates 268 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:31.879 or the walls of Heaven with all these different stones Jasper, 269 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:35.879 you know, I think I don't think diamond's actually in there, though, 270 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:38.840 but you know the different precious stones that make up 271 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:41.320 the walls. And I said, do you think that heaven 272 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:43.679 is actually a spiritual place or do you think it's 273 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.759 a physical place? And he, you know, flat out agreed 274 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:49.080 and said that, you know, I believe it's a physical place, 275 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:50.919 like I don't. I think that when we say the 276 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:53.879 words like spiritual or using words like spirit, it could 277 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:55.919 very well be energy. It could just be something we 278 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:59.039 just don't quite understand one hundred percent. But I do 279 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:01.679 think that, you know, when New Jerusalem comes down as 280 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:03.440 the Bible describes it, I think it's going to be 281 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:06.480 a physical place. Bro you know, but just things like that. 282 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:08.360 So when I had him, I guess, going back to 283 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:10.879 the question, it was cool to kind of answer some 284 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:13.440 of those deeper questions I had for him. 285 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.559 Yeah, and with me. I mean, I grew up in 286 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:19.759 church my whole life. So it's like after you get 287 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:23.440 told something so many times, it kind of loses its value. 288 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:26.840 It's yeah, I know, you know, Jesus died on the crossroom. 289 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:30.399 My sins, yes, I know, become calls and yeah, and 290 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:33.360 it's like once you start digging for some of these truths, 291 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:36.679 it's you start to see that this is something you 292 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:41.480 can see, you can feel, touch and taste, and it's tangible. 293 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:44.720 It's no longer just something that you blindly believe it 294 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:50.000 is real. It just solidifies your faith and excites you 295 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:52.919 and gives you a firm foundation to stand upon. 296 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:56.840 I think if we can somehow relay that to a 297 00:13:56.840 --> 00:13:59.200 lot of the people that are, you know, either agnostic 298 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:03.200 skeptics or a theist man. Like, it's not this whimsical, magical, 299 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:06.679 abstract world. It's a real world that God has given 300 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:10.639 us here. It's got principles, it's got laws, physics governing, 301 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:12.559 you know, any government behind it, you know what I mean, 302 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:15.000 like a certain state, you know, like elemental states. It's like, 303 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.360 this world is legit, bro, It's real, you know. And 304 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:20.759 I feel that when we get to heaven, like the 305 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:22.519 word of God is still the word of God. It 306 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.720 is truth, right, So truth is eternal, That same truth, 307 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:29.159 the same words that are written in the Bible are 308 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:31.720 going to be the same truth in the same laws, 309 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:34.399 same rules that are in heaven, because it's the same 310 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:36.679 God that spoke it. Whenever he speaks doesn't come back 311 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:39.480 void to him. So for me, when you study and 312 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:41.799 speak the truth here on earth, it's almost like tapping 313 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:44.840 into little glimpses of Heaven, and we can apply it here. 314 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:48.320 You start reaping the benefits of heaven, of blessings, of 315 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:51.440 seeing the supernatural happen here on earth. 316 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:55.159 Yeah, and you start to see now that science is 317 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:59.759 slowly starting to catch up with scripture. I'll never forget 318 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:04.480 the video, but I did forget the scientist's name, but 319 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:06.720 it was a scientist and he was talking about the 320 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:10.799 stones in heaven and you're talking about that kind of 321 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:14.799 reminded me. And he was talking about how that those 322 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:20.519 stones alone, along with our science, now confirms that the 323 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:23.559 Bible is the divine inspired word of God. Because he 324 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:26.559 was talking about all those stones listed are the twelve 325 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:30.960 stones in the Priestly epod. But all of those stones, 326 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:35.320 scientists have took them and cut them into slivers and 327 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:40.519 put them underneath a microscope and shined pure light through 328 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:44.480 them for our version of purest light. And it turns 329 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:48.399 out that all those stones are in isotropics. And what 330 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:51.679 that means is is when you shine pure light through it, 331 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:56.000 every color of the rainbow et spectrum. Yes, she's out 332 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:59.080 and all these fantastic patterns and stuff. And he was like, 333 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:03.360 so our puny version of pure lot can do that. Imagine, 334 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:06.840 you know, Christ walking in the streets and it says 335 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:07.559 that he is. 336 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:10.080 The light up brother is going to light up. I 337 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:13.200 don't think our mortal human eyes could even understand what 338 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:15.200 that would look like, Bro, I mean, we only see you. 339 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:17.559 I think what three seven percent of the color light 340 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:21.080 spectrum now matter? The new bodies or they have to 341 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:23.360 be new bodies to fully immerse ourselves in. 342 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:24.159 The glory of God. 343 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:25.240 M hmm. 344 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:27.519 But that's really cool that you looked into that. 345 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:27.720 Man. 346 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:29.000 I agree. 347 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:35.440 Yeah, all that stuff, man, But with with what you do, Jesse, 348 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:43.080 what do you find that far as Christian content is 349 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:45.799 lacking or what would you like to see more of? 350 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:49.759 I would like to see more people be real with themselves. 351 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:53.080 I feel like a lot of Christian's Christian content creators, 352 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:56.480 they regurgitate a lot of content. And I like to 353 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.559 feel when I when I'm learning from somebody or when 354 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:02.559 I'm lear listening to somebody's testimony, I want to feel something. 355 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:04.480 I want to feel that you've been through some real 356 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.680 hurt pain. Show me where God saved your life. Do 357 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.039 it in a way where it's like uncensored. 358 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:11.079 You know what I mean? 359 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:13.400 Like I feel like everyone they have a real, deep, 360 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:15.599 real true story and then they just throw all of 361 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:20.759 these like cookie cutter googly eyed Christian filters over top 362 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:23.640 of it, which makes it so soft, and it's like, yeah, 363 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:26.759 it's easy to digest, but it's like for someone like me, man, 364 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:27.759 like I've been through some stuff. 365 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:29.079 I'm sure you've been through some stuff. 366 00:17:29.079 --> 00:17:31.440 We're older, you know, like we've been We got experience 367 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:33.119 in life, We've seen some stuff like you don't have 368 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:35.880 to lie to me or make it sugar cookie, you know, 369 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:39.599 sugarcoat it, like be real. So I feel like the 370 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:42.880 problem with Christian kit content creators man right now, I 371 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:45.400 feel like as they like to regurgitate, they see something 372 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.039 go viral, they just copy paste stick it up there. 373 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:49.400 So I end up. 374 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:51.279 You know, I do do that sometimes, and I do 375 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:53.400 that just to keep the algorithm, please, because you've got 376 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:54.079 to play into this. 377 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:55.319 It's a whole thing, bro. 378 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:58.279 You know, you gotta keep the algorithm somewhat savvy about 379 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:01.039 what you're posting out there because it can see engines burning, 380 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:02.960 and as the engines are burning, it allows that to 381 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:05.680 promote your content further. So I'll do that in the 382 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:08.319 introm of me looking up some really deep stuff like 383 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:11.640 a Joe Rogan two hour long podcast or Steven Meyer 384 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:15.359 talking about evolution creationism, you know what I mean, like 385 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:17.480 stuff like that, and then I'll take that and then 386 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:19.000 break it all up and then send it out. So 387 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:22.960 I wish more Christians were more more attuned to discovering 388 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:27.079 the essence of God through all of these different outlets 389 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:30.599 and then compiling them together and then being able to 390 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.400 deliver it in a in a good manner, you know. 391 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:36.319 M So that's that's what I would say. 392 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:41.480 And with me too, like I connect better with with people, 393 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:44.359 like you were saying, when they're they're more real. And 394 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:47.599 I think that is because it's kind of like uh, 395 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:51.799 Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell with the Hero of a 396 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:58.240 Thousand Faces, you are seeing someone on their hero's journey. Yes, 397 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:04.920 and if you actually can encapsulate that in a show 398 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:11.279 and then follow along, I mean not just even follow along, 399 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:14.799 but you're following along on this person's journey. They're they're 400 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:18.240 going into the unknown, they're slaying the dragon, rescuing the damsel, 401 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:20.880