Speaker 1: But yeah, if Christians were more authentic with their faith, I.
Speaker 2: Think it would reach more people.
Speaker 1: And like you said, there is a bullshit meter for sure,
Speaker 1: and like saying something like that, say the word bullshit
Speaker 1: like in your podcast right now, people would clip that
Speaker 1: and be like, I'm going to unfollow jesse speaks because
Speaker 1: he said that word one time, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean.
Speaker 1: And I hate that tiny little thing that I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of Christians do. This man found the Lord,
Speaker 1: he got baptized, all right, how was the baptism.
Speaker 2: Was it a full submersion? Was he you know? Was
Speaker 2: it just his head and ears? Because if it's not,
Speaker 2: then it's not legit.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's so many technicalities, bro that That's
Speaker 1: the one thing I don't like. I feel like Christians
Speaker 1: sway new believers to not be Christians, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And it's a scary thing. And I feel
Speaker 1: like that's what's wrong with obviously the church. I'm not
Speaker 1: a big fan of the politics and the corruption of church.
Speaker 2: I'm here to expose those things. What's going on? Everybody.
Speaker 1: My name is Jessin Speaks, and I'm with Justin on
Speaker 1: the Prometheus Less.
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Speaker 2: Did you talk about extreme?
Speaker 5: What is happening? And what is up? Hold out your
Speaker 5: glass because we're about to feel it up.
Speaker 4: All things continually lead back to serpents, dragons, fairies, nepheline,
Speaker 4: and fallen angels. In the distance looms a mystical mountain.
Speaker 4: As Mike Kaiser used to say, if it's in the
Speaker 4: Bible and it's weird, it's probably important. At its peak,
Speaker 4: a great fire burns, concealing the Prometheus lens.
Speaker 5: This development of this knowledge being talked about within the
Speaker 5: mystery schools.
Speaker 4: An ancient artifact said to reveal the hidden truth within
Speaker 4: a deliberately darkened world.
Speaker 2: There is a hidden history that's been deliberately obscated from the.
Speaker 5: People's ol world.
Speaker 4: Join us as we travel and explore the vast unknown.
Speaker 4: It's a hero's journey with dragons to slay, damsels to save,
Speaker 4: and innumerable treasures to hoard.
Speaker 5: Torches high the Smithsonian they call wind of a giant's belt,
Speaker 5: would send their agents out to get it.
Speaker 4: But it takes courage to move forward, to move out
Speaker 4: of the shadows, out of the unreality that we think of,
Speaker 4: this reality.
Speaker 5: We are all on the hero's journey.
Speaker 4: Mankind has been in contact with and influenced by extraterrestrials.
Speaker 5: Leave the sitient mound of bull feathers out of it.
Speaker 1: Look at it from a different perspective, different perspective, different.
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Speaker 5: This is a gentleman that I've been following for almost
Speaker 5: two years now and been really inspired by his reels
Speaker 5: and just the work he does. Man, he is a maniac.
Speaker 5: He's a with what he does, and he loves what
Speaker 5: he does because it comes through in his work. Man.
Speaker 5: But I like to welcome to the show Jesse from
Speaker 5: Jesse Speaks. Thank you so much for your time, Jesse.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Man, Hey, dude, I appreciate the invite. Man, glad
Speaker 2: to be here.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I was talking to you pre ro. I was like,
Speaker 5: I've been following you for about two years now and
Speaker 5: you got just a massive following. The Lord has blessed it, yes,
Speaker 5: And I was just like, man, I'm want to reach
Speaker 5: out to this guy. The worst thing can happen is
Speaker 5: he ignore me. Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, man, I'm happy you did bro, and I'm
Speaker 1: happy the way you did it because you kept going
Speaker 1: and pushing and pushing. And the thing is, it's like
Speaker 1: I get buried by so many comments that don't ever
Speaker 1: mean to be rude or mean or ever even pass
Speaker 1: up on an opportunity to talk about God and life,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? With another fellow human being.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad you did because definitely got my attention.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here, man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's just my personality. I've told a lot
Speaker 5: of my podcasting friends because Lord's blessed my show, and
Speaker 5: I've had a lot of you know, big name guests
Speaker 5: in these circles, and a lot of guys are just like,
Speaker 5: how did you get you know, Steve Quail on your show?
Speaker 5: How did you get Timothy Alberino. I'm like, right, I asked,
Speaker 5: And the ones that didn't respond, I just emailed them
Speaker 5: once a month consistently until they've probably either seen my
Speaker 5: email or got tired of reading my email.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's funny, though, man. Consistency Rhot's king in every aspect.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's old saying that I love so much. I
Speaker 5: had it tattooed on my arm. Dripping water hollow stone,
Speaker 5: not by force, but with persistence.
Speaker 2: That's right, bro.
Speaker 1: I've actually seen some videos like on Facebook and stuff
Speaker 1: where you got the stones being carved out by that
Speaker 1: one drop. That's all it takes. I take a little while,
Speaker 1: but you know, eventually, man, you're gonna break through.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, for those that have not found you, which
Speaker 5: I find that hard pressed. I was even talking to
Speaker 5: my mother and I was describing you, and she says, yes,
Speaker 5: I've seen his video. You know, even my mother knew
Speaker 5: who you were.
Speaker 2: Thank God for moms. Dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, our biggest cheerleaders.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's the truth. Man. My mom was a
Speaker 2: lot so she would feel the same.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for those that have not found your content,
Speaker 5: just kind of give everybody an introduction to you know,
Speaker 5: who Jesse is, what your content is, and what you
Speaker 5: do for sure.
Speaker 1: So basically, you know, I've been a big fan of
Speaker 1: obviously Christianity. I'm a believer in Jesus Christ, and I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of science. I'm also a big fan
Speaker 1: of philosophy. So I found a way to kind of
Speaker 1: converge all these things together, compile them all together, i
Speaker 1: should say. And I wanted to build like some sort
Speaker 1: of like online convenience store, right like you can follow me,
Speaker 1: you can get your fix on any of those three topics,
Speaker 1: all of them with the umbrella of Christianity and bringing
Speaker 1: people to the light and to the truth. And I
Speaker 1: felt that after I did that, man, you know, like
Speaker 1: I said about two years in posts, you know, before
Speaker 1: we got into this, it was about two years and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, I started seeing there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people that kind.
Speaker 2: Of relate to it. They feel the same way.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of intrinsic questions I think every human
Speaker 1: being has, and I'm just trying to offer you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say unbiased, but majority of it
Speaker 1: is pretty unbiased opinions and thoughts and other specialists that
Speaker 1: have been on my account or on my podcast to
Speaker 1: kind of help to answer these deep intrinsic questions that
Speaker 1: we all have. And I feel that a lot of
Speaker 1: people like it, and I just continue doing it every
Speaker 1: single day. Man, I haven't missed a beat.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, because you're consistently putting out at least, you know,
Speaker 5: two to three reels every single day.
Speaker 2: It's it's madhouse, bro, it is.
Speaker 1: My wife has to come in the room and be like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's time to eat, and I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I forgot I have to eat, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, being a human man, you know, and all.
Speaker 5: These exactly, Well, what was the trigger factor? I mean
Speaker 5: what you just scrolling one day and hey man, I
Speaker 5: could do that. You've seen some guy that inspired you
Speaker 5: how did that? I'll just get started.
Speaker 1: So a good question, man. So I was a barber
Speaker 1: for fifteen years, and it was a great run. I
Speaker 1: don't regret any bit of it, but I will say
Speaker 1: that it wasn't I mean itw was.
Speaker 2: The last fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Started feeling that it wasn't maybe satisfying, you know, like
Speaker 1: I felt like there was so much more that I
Speaker 1: had to offer the world and it was not between,
Speaker 1: you know, in the in the confines of the barbershop.
Speaker 1: Although I love cutting hair and I feel like I
Speaker 1: traveled the world without ever leaving the barbershop, having so
Speaker 1: many great conversations with people and leading people to God
Speaker 1: and just helping them out in every way I can.
Speaker 2: I was like, there's got to be a bigger way.
Speaker 1: If I had this kind of a heart sitting here
Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes on somebody's hair, there's got to be
Speaker 1: a way that I can expand it. And I sat there, Honestly, bro,
Speaker 1: I tell people this story everything every time I can.
Speaker 2: I sat here on the.
Speaker 1: Office floor and I looked up at my popcorn ceiling
Speaker 1: and I said, God, you know you brought me this far.
Speaker 1: I got a wife, I got a kid, now I got,
Speaker 1: you know, a home and all these great things you'd
Speaker 1: get as being an adult, right you start leveling up
Speaker 1: in life. But there was still that feeling deep down
Speaker 1: inside that I could not quite answer. And I asked God,
Speaker 1: you know, like what do you want me to do?
Speaker 1: And he literally was telling me, Bro, like when I
Speaker 1: was laying there on the ground, He's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you should try TikTok. He had on TikTok and share
Speaker 1: the things that you like, the little hobby things that
Speaker 1: you research, because I'll be watching Jordan Peterson before I
Speaker 1: even blew up, Bro, I've been watching Joe Rogan and asked,
Speaker 1: you know, the creepy Creatures and stuff like that, like
Speaker 1: all these different podcasts that were just like super conspiracy.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: But then at the same note, I also loved Christianity
Speaker 1: and God and I wanted to answer those questions. And
Speaker 1: that's why I kind of put them all together, bro.
Speaker 1: And that's that's something that I like to tell a
Speaker 1: lot of people too. It's like, you might not know
Speaker 1: exactly what God is going to put you on in
Speaker 1: this world, right, but he will create a path for
Speaker 1: you to start following based off the purpose that he
Speaker 1: put inside of your heart, and as you follow and
Speaker 1: progress through that, it seems like he just keeps opening
Speaker 1: all these doors of opportunity. And that's where I kind
Speaker 1: of just went with him.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's awesome too, because just knowing that, because with me,
Speaker 5: I listened to a lot of those podcasts like you
Speaker 5: were talking about and was fascinated by them, and I
Speaker 5: love Jordan Peterson, yeah, and all those similar interests. And
Speaker 5: I was always a big history and ever since I
Speaker 5: read Michael Heyser's Unseen Realm, I see the Bible with
Speaker 5: this supernatural you know, set of glasses now, yes, right,
Speaker 5: and it's like when I look at everything, it all filters, thugh,
Speaker 5: So it doesn't matter. So conspiracy theory, Bigfoot, ancient loss, civilizations, right,
Speaker 5: all of these fascinating subjects filter right through the supernatural
Speaker 5: worldview of the Bible. And I was like, there's lots
Speaker 5: of podcasts that talks about you know, X, Y or Z,
Speaker 5: but I like X Y n Z and I think
Speaker 5: I can tie them all together, so let's just try that.
Speaker 1: That's right, bron, You're absolutely right. I mean, honestly, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of just if you seek the truth.
Speaker 1: The truth is the thing that you base everything off of,
Speaker 1: right Like it's the strongest substance in the entire universe.
Speaker 1: You know, God has based his word off truth. His
Speaker 1: word is truth. So if it's bigfoot, throw bigfoot out
Speaker 1: the truth. And if it's sticks, it's sticks, it's truth.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like the truth thinking a
Speaker 2: fatal way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I'm a big fan of that superro that's cool.
Speaker 5: And what's cool is now that I know that you
Speaker 5: were a barber. Yeah, you could even do you a
Speaker 5: little side show cutting people's hair in a podcast, because
Speaker 5: I mean that's a therapy session in itself.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Hey do that's a great idea. Set it up
Speaker 1: like in the barbershop itself, and then just talk like
Speaker 1: a one on one with somebody, Just call.
Speaker 2: It one on one.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 2: That's cool to write that down. Bro.
Speaker 5: Well, out of all the guests and stuff that you've had,
Speaker 5: do you have anybody that's like a dream guest for you,
Speaker 5: that was somebody that you were just so excited to
Speaker 5: get And.
Speaker 1: I will say, yeah, I mean I grew up with
Speaker 1: doctor Kent Hoven and I saw that you had posted
Speaker 1: some things about him too, And when I had him
Speaker 1: on it was kind of like, you know, he was
Speaker 1: very big into obviously, like creationism, right, like explaining dinosaurs
Speaker 1: and the the atmosphere, the firmament, the high oxygen levels
Speaker 1: and things like that. So when I kind of like
Speaker 1: how you were saying before, you kind of compile that
Speaker 1: and put that through the truth of the Bible of
Speaker 1: the lens and it kind of it makes all It
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense, you know. So when I
Speaker 1: was younger, I was very fascinated with stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So when I had him as my guest, it was
Speaker 1: cool to ask him some really deep questions. Like one
Speaker 1: of the questions I asked actually asked him because he's
Speaker 1: really big into rocks too, you know, different layers and sediments,
Speaker 1: sary rocks and and just.
Speaker 2: Dinosaurs, you know.
Speaker 1: So I was like, do you believe that maybe you
Speaker 1: know the way that the Bible describes Heaven the gates
Speaker 1: or the walls of Heaven with all these different stones Jasper,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I don't think diamond's actually in there, though,
Speaker 1: but you know the different precious stones that make up
Speaker 1: the walls. And I said, do you think that heaven
Speaker 1: is actually a spiritual place or do you think it's
Speaker 1: a physical place? And he, you know, flat out agreed
Speaker 1: and said that, you know, I believe it's a physical place,
Speaker 1: like I don't. I think that when we say the
Speaker 1: words like spiritual or using words like spirit, it could
Speaker 1: very well be energy. It could just be something we
Speaker 1: just don't quite understand one hundred percent. But I do
Speaker 1: think that, you know, when New Jerusalem comes down as
Speaker 1: the Bible describes it, I think it's going to be
Speaker 1: a physical place. Bro you know, but just things like that.
Speaker 1: So when I had him, I guess, going back to
Speaker 1: the question, it was cool to kind of answer some
Speaker 1: of those deeper questions I had for him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and with me. I mean, I grew up in
Speaker 5: church my whole life. So it's like after you get
Speaker 5: told something so many times, it kind of loses its value.
Speaker 5: It's yeah, I know, you know, Jesus died on the crossroom.
Speaker 5: My sins, yes, I know, become calls and yeah, and
Speaker 5: it's like once you start digging for some of these truths,
Speaker 5: it's you start to see that this is something you
Speaker 5: can see, you can feel, touch and taste, and it's tangible.
Speaker 5: It's no longer just something that you blindly believe it
Speaker 5: is real. It just solidifies your faith and excites you
Speaker 5: and gives you a firm foundation to stand upon.
Speaker 1: I think if we can somehow relay that to a
Speaker 1: lot of the people that are, you know, either agnostic
Speaker 1: skeptics or a theist man. Like, it's not this whimsical, magical,
Speaker 1: abstract world. It's a real world that God has given
Speaker 1: us here. It's got principles, it's got laws, physics governing,
Speaker 1: you know, any government behind it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like a certain state, you know, like elemental states. It's like,
Speaker 1: this world is legit, bro, It's real, you know. And
Speaker 1: I feel that when we get to heaven, like the
Speaker 1: word of God is still the word of God. It
Speaker 1: is truth, right, So truth is eternal, That same truth,
Speaker 1: the same words that are written in the Bible are
Speaker 1: going to be the same truth in the same laws,
Speaker 1: same rules that are in heaven, because it's the same
Speaker 1: God that spoke it. Whenever he speaks doesn't come back
Speaker 1: void to him. So for me, when you study and
Speaker 1: speak the truth here on earth, it's almost like tapping
Speaker 1: into little glimpses of Heaven, and we can apply it here.
Speaker 1: You start reaping the benefits of heaven, of blessings, of
Speaker 1: seeing the supernatural happen here on earth.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you start to see now that science is
Speaker 5: slowly starting to catch up with scripture. I'll never forget
Speaker 5: the video, but I did forget the scientist's name, but
Speaker 5: it was a scientist and he was talking about the
Speaker 5: stones in heaven and you're talking about that kind of
Speaker 5: reminded me. And he was talking about how that those
Speaker 5: stones alone, along with our science, now confirms that the
Speaker 5: Bible is the divine inspired word of God. Because he
Speaker 5: was talking about all those stones listed are the twelve
Speaker 5: stones in the Priestly epod. But all of those stones,
Speaker 5: scientists have took them and cut them into slivers and
Speaker 5: put them underneath a microscope and shined pure light through
Speaker 5: them for our version of purest light. And it turns
Speaker 5: out that all those stones are in isotropics. And what
Speaker 5: that means is is when you shine pure light through it,
Speaker 5: every color of the rainbow et spectrum. Yes, she's out
Speaker 5: and all these fantastic patterns and stuff. And he was like,
Speaker 5: so our puny version of pure lot can do that. Imagine,
Speaker 5: you know, Christ walking in the streets and it says
Speaker 5: that he is.
Speaker 1: The light up brother is going to light up. I
Speaker 1: don't think our mortal human eyes could even understand what
Speaker 1: that would look like, Bro, I mean, we only see you.
Speaker 1: I think what three seven percent of the color light
Speaker 1: spectrum now matter? The new bodies or they have to
Speaker 1: be new bodies to fully immerse ourselves in.
Speaker 2: The glory of God.
Speaker 5: M hmm.
Speaker 2: But that's really cool that you looked into that.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all that stuff, man, But with with what you do, Jesse,
Speaker 5: what do you find that far as Christian content is
Speaker 5: lacking or what would you like to see more of?
Speaker 1: I would like to see more people be real with themselves.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of Christian's Christian content creators,
Speaker 1: they regurgitate a lot of content. And I like to
Speaker 1: feel when I when I'm learning from somebody or when
Speaker 1: I'm lear listening to somebody's testimony, I want to feel something.
Speaker 1: I want to feel that you've been through some real
Speaker 1: hurt pain. Show me where God saved your life. Do
Speaker 1: it in a way where it's like uncensored.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I feel like everyone they have a real, deep,
Speaker 1: real true story and then they just throw all of
Speaker 1: these like cookie cutter googly eyed Christian filters over top
Speaker 1: of it, which makes it so soft, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's easy to digest, but it's like for someone like me, man,
Speaker 1: like I've been through some stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've been through some stuff.
Speaker 1: We're older, you know, like we've been We got experience
Speaker 1: in life, We've seen some stuff like you don't have
Speaker 1: to lie to me or make it sugar cookie, you know,
Speaker 1: sugarcoat it, like be real. So I feel like the
Speaker 1: problem with Christian kit content creators man right now, I
Speaker 1: feel like as they like to regurgitate, they see something
Speaker 1: go viral, they just copy paste stick it up there.
Speaker 2: So I end up.
Speaker 1: You know, I do do that sometimes, and I do
Speaker 1: that just to keep the algorithm, please, because you've got
Speaker 1: to play into this.
Speaker 2: It's a whole thing, bro.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta keep the algorithm somewhat savvy about
Speaker 1: what you're posting out there because it can see engines burning,
Speaker 1: and as the engines are burning, it allows that to
Speaker 1: promote your content further. So I'll do that in the
Speaker 1: introm of me looking up some really deep stuff like
Speaker 1: a Joe Rogan two hour long podcast or Steven Meyer
Speaker 1: talking about evolution creationism, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and then I'll take that and then
Speaker 1: break it all up and then send it out. So
Speaker 1: I wish more Christians were more more attuned to discovering
Speaker 1: the essence of God through all of these different outlets
Speaker 1: and then compiling them together and then being able to
Speaker 1: deliver it in a in a good manner, you know.
Speaker 2: M So that's that's what I would say.
Speaker 5: And with me too, like I connect better with with people,
Speaker 5: like you were saying, when they're they're more real. And
Speaker 5: I think that is because it's kind of like uh,
Speaker 5: Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell with the Hero of a
Speaker 5: Thousand Faces, you are seeing someone on their hero's journey. Yes,
Speaker 5: and if you actually can encapsulate that in a show
Speaker 5: and then follow along, I mean not just even follow along,
Speaker 5: but you're following along on this person's journey. They're they're
Speaker 5: going into the unknown, they're slaying the dragon, rescuing the damsel,
Speaker 5: and coming out on the other end with this boon,
Speaker 5: this prize of great wealth, you know, which is the
Speaker 5: is the Prometheus fire. Symbolically, it's knowledge and that's the
Speaker 5: one thing Christ said that that we suffer from a
Speaker 5: lack of and giving that boon to other people and
Speaker 5: passing that that that fire of Christ, and a lot
Speaker 5: of people get hung up on the well, I gotta do,
Speaker 5: you know, what's popular. I gotta do what gets the
Speaker 5: clicks in the views. And a lot of people usually
Speaker 5: have a pretty good bullshit meter.
Speaker 1: Yes, to be frank, that's exactly right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And I was gonna put into that a little bit too,
Speaker 2: is that Yeah, no, no, I do agree. Sorry, no,
Speaker 2: you're good.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if Christians were more authentic with their faith,
Speaker 1: I think it would reach more people. And like you said,
Speaker 1: there is a bullshit meter for sure, and like saying
Speaker 1: something like that, saying the word bullshit like in your
Speaker 1: podcast right now, people would clip that and be like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna unfollow Jesse speaks because he said that word
Speaker 1: one time, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean?
Speaker 1: And I hate that tiny little thing that I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of Christians do.
Speaker 2: This man found the Lord. He got baptized, all right,
Speaker 2: How was the baptism? Was it a full submersion? Was
Speaker 2: he you know? Was it just his head and ears?
Speaker 1: Because if it's not, then it's not legit, and it's
Speaker 1: like it's so many technicalities. Bro that that's the one
Speaker 1: thing I don't like. I feel like Christians sway new
Speaker 1: believers to not be Christians, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's a scary thing. And I feel like that's
Speaker 1: what's wrong with obviously the church. I'm not a big
Speaker 1: fan of the politics and the corruption of church. I'm
Speaker 1: here to expose those things. Like I got my wife, grandmother,
Speaker 1: she lives with us, and she was saying, like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to be called a Christian anymore
Speaker 1: because it's got a bad name to it. I'm just like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not you know, that's not how we do that.
Speaker 1: We don't just develop a bad name and just change
Speaker 1: the name. Like we we stand strong and we reverse
Speaker 1: those side effects of all the bad people that made
Speaker 1: Christian Christian the wordage for Christian a bad thing.
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Speaker 1: We have to stand up and fix it, man Like,
Speaker 1: we don't just change names through that's a very uh,
Speaker 1: you know, liberal thing to do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, reappropriate, And that's something that I tell people too,
Speaker 5: is on my show. Is even when I first started this,
Speaker 5: I knew that it would act as a ministry, but
Speaker 5: I felt I needed to put up my defensive walls,
Speaker 5: you know, and I said, this is not a ministry.
Speaker 5: This is looking into the Bible and seeing how all
Speaker 5: these things filter through a biblical lens. But this is not,
Speaker 5: you know, a ministry. And the only reason I felt
Speaker 5: that I needed to do that is because of a
Speaker 5: lot of narrow minded Christians are so eager to light
Speaker 5: their orches and grab their pitchforks and come after you
Speaker 5: for saying you know shit or if you go like me,
Speaker 5: for instance, I go on a lot of secular podcasts.
Speaker 5: I've been on podcasts that have the name cult yeah
Speaker 5: in their name, and they have some foul language and stuff,
Speaker 5: and it's like, how else are we supposed to reach
Speaker 5: these people and spread the light if we are staying
Speaker 5: curled up in our closets with our candle.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Bro, that's exactly right, That's exactly honestly, that's one
Speaker 1: of the I'll take that from me, Bro, because I agree.
Speaker 1: That's exactly why I started the whole Jesse Speaks thing too.
Speaker 1: It's that I needed to be real with people and
Speaker 1: you don't reach you know, what do they say about
Speaker 1: the church being a hospital for broken people? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, after you get healed up and
Speaker 1: you find God, you have to go back out and
Speaker 1: you got to bring the people to the hospital.
Speaker 2: Dude. We got to fix the lost, or we got
Speaker 2: to find the you know, we got to find the
Speaker 2: lost and bring them to Christ.
Speaker 1: And you don't do that at church, bro, because this
Speaker 1: is clearly where one's happy and safe.
Speaker 2: You know, like, we got to go venture out.
Speaker 1: Man, and you're gonna run into people who are gonna
Speaker 1: say cuss words or even be drinking in front of you.
Speaker 1: That means that you just completely avoid them, like they're
Speaker 1: so lost you can't, Like, come on, man, you got
Speaker 1: to get some thick skin, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: just as.
Speaker 5: Be so holier than now, because even if you're not
Speaker 5: being that way, you come off that way like you're
Speaker 5: too good to be around people like that. And when
Speaker 5: you read our book, and this is one thing that
Speaker 5: I found so fascinating about the Bible, was if this
Speaker 5: was something made up, that a bunch of guys got
Speaker 5: together and conspired to make this, you know, fake religion
Speaker 5: with this fake messiah, they did a really crappy job
Speaker 5: because the people in there are so flawed. You know.
Speaker 5: David was a peep in tom Yeah, and he was
Speaker 5: an adulterer and then he turned around and was a
Speaker 5: murderer and murdered this woman's husband so he could take her. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so and you look through I mean, that's just one example.
Speaker 5: I could go all day long about the flawed people
Speaker 5: that God used and done great things. It shows our
Speaker 5: humanity and how broken we are. So it's like we
Speaker 5: need to be real, like you said, we need to
Speaker 5: be real and be like, Hey, I'm the type of
Speaker 5: guy that if I smash my finger with a hammer,
Speaker 5: a four letter word is gonna come out. Yeah, immediately
Speaker 5: after I'm gonna be like God forgive me, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, You can get the conviction of the
Speaker 5: Holy Spirit, but it's like we are all humans and
Speaker 5: we just need to you know. Like it said, and
Speaker 5: I think was it Matthew said, remove the log from
Speaker 5: your own eye before you try to remove a spect
Speaker 5: from another. And good old boy terms, that means minds
Speaker 5: you own business because you're never going to fix you.
Speaker 5: So if you you fix, you don't worry about everybody.
Speaker 2: Got a lot of work on your hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, take that log out, bro, Absolutely, dude. I like
Speaker 1: that you said though, because the Bible, you know, I've
Speaker 1: always heard it like it's a mirror reflecting back on you.
Speaker 1: You It speaks to you as the individual as you're reading,
Speaker 1: because the Holy Spirit, and it's those exact almost like
Speaker 1: I don't want say social cues, but like human cues.
Speaker 1: Like you said, King David has done all these sinful
Speaker 1: things and he's he's very similar to everybody else in
Speaker 1: the world. And that man, as soon as someone can
Speaker 1: get attached to the Bible, someone who's never unders you,
Speaker 1: understood God, when they read the Bible, those pages are
Speaker 1: going to scream to them. They're going to see themselves
Speaker 1: in it and they're going to get that healing. And
Speaker 1: it's because it's not that judgmental of a book, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's not that kind of book you beat someone over
Speaker 2: the head with.
Speaker 1: It's the kind of book that the person that's presenting
Speaker 1: it is also in the same.
Speaker 2: On the same stand as the person that needs it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That it's a very equal playing field. And we all
Speaker 1: need Jesus period.
Speaker 5: Yes. And that's the thing is like the Holy Spirit
Speaker 5: with me. Everybody talks about you know, oh God told
Speaker 5: me that I'm going to be blessed and I'm going
Speaker 5: to start this business, and you know all these different
Speaker 5: kind of stuff and I'm like, yeah, well that's great.
Speaker 5: But it's like, man, the God and Holy Spirit I
Speaker 5: deal with, He's always making me feel little, humbling me,
Speaker 5: yes right, and lovingly correcting me.
Speaker 2: All the time, like bro, yeah.
Speaker 5: So it's like constantly you have this mirror in front
Speaker 5: of you and you're seeing how messed up and how
Speaker 5: ugly you are and how screwed up you are. Yes,
Speaker 5: but he still loves you and accepts you as you are.
Speaker 5: And then that should give you a spirit of humility
Speaker 5: and grace. And then that should project to the other
Speaker 5: people in the world because once you realize how messed
Speaker 5: up and how screwed up you are, but you were
Speaker 5: loved and accepted anyway, Yes, and you should give that
Speaker 5: to other people as well.
Speaker 2: That's right. That's exactly right, man.
Speaker 1: I mean just speaking on like big business and stuff, man,
Speaker 1: like just talking about just doing TikTok and just social
Speaker 1: media in general. As a content creator, Christian content creators, like,
Speaker 1: you're running into that a lot, you know, like you're
Speaker 1: sitting here. You get into a humanistic mind and you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, God, how do I scale this business?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, and it's like whoa hold up, freeze, this is
Speaker 1: never yours. This was never yours. I've entrusted you with
Speaker 1: it because you were deserving of it, you know, through God,
Speaker 1: you know, deserving of it because you wanted it, you
Speaker 1: needed it, or.
Speaker 2: I needed it for you, you know, God speaking to us.
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, I will accept this, but it's
Speaker 1: it could be taken away at any moment, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like is if I decide to drop
Speaker 1: the mantle, put out the fire, and I decide to
Speaker 1: just never come to work, God will give this to
Speaker 1: somebody else, you know what I mean. So, like I
Speaker 1: always try to make what you got to. You got
Speaker 1: to make sure that God is first. Otherwise you don't
Speaker 1: see the fruit in the work. You don't see the
Speaker 1: fruit in what you're doing and presenting or even on
Speaker 1: these kind of podcasts.
Speaker 2: But like I we're doing right now. Like if I
Speaker 2: was all about myself, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Be humble, you know what I mean? And humble is
Speaker 1: the reason that God has put me here. I want
Speaker 1: to speak to, you know, the smaller podcasters. I want
Speaker 1: to speak to the celebrities in which I have, and
Speaker 1: I want to cover that whole thing because I feel
Speaker 1: that's where the people are. Man, that's where God wants
Speaker 1: me to speak on all levels with this, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's something too, is like with my experience,
Speaker 5: a lot of you know, quote unquote Christian you know,
Speaker 5: podcasters and content creators in the granted, we're all human,
Speaker 5: you know, we all have our downfalls, but it's like
Speaker 5: it's very easy for the devil to get in and
Speaker 5: give you that greedy mind mentality and like different content creators,
Speaker 5: but like, oh I'm too big to work with that
Speaker 5: little person. I worked hard to get where I'm at,
Speaker 5: and as soon as I bring them on my show,
Speaker 5: they're going to get access to all my people that
Speaker 5: I work so hard. No, I'm going to be a gatekeeper.
Speaker 5: And it's it's like that doesn't man, We're supposed to
Speaker 5: be batting for the same team here.
Speaker 2: That's right, That's exactly right, dude.
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, Yeah, if if any in any which
Speaker 1: way I possibly could help to elevate even this guys
Speaker 1: right here, Bro, Like I want you guys, all my people,
Speaker 1: guys go check them out, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: it's all about like you said, it's it's the voices
Speaker 1: getting heard people. I mean you mean, you could literally,
Speaker 1: Bro do the same exact thing, but you, Doc Brown,
Speaker 1: are gonna say it differently than Jesse speaks would and
Speaker 1: your personality, the way you look, the way your voice sounds,
Speaker 1: everything about you is different than me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Because we're all individual people. Even though we're,
Speaker 1: like you said, batting for the same team, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a different assortment of audience. But no matter what,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna be batting for the same king.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a flavored ice cream. Man, we got
Speaker 5: to make sure we have all the flavors that everybody likes.
Speaker 5: I just want to be in the nutty you know,
Speaker 5: butter pecan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be the pale vanilla bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought that's funny.
Speaker 5: Well, with all the conversations and stuff that you've had,
Speaker 5: what has been I guess the most impactful part per
Speaker 5: to you?
Speaker 2: Hmm?
Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, I had one not too
Speaker 1: long ago with a rapper, American rapper named Mesis. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever listened to some of his
Speaker 1: music before, but he's known to be this very controversial rapper.
Speaker 1: He's been you know, uh, he's got very political, you know,
Speaker 1: views on certain things, and a lot of people find
Speaker 1: him controversial of course, but he's.
Speaker 2: Not that you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like he he showed me there's another
Speaker 1: side to this whole thing, that there's a basically, like
Speaker 1: you were saying that there's there's types of Christians that
Speaker 1: you say the word shit and they run away. Then
Speaker 1: you got the ones that can handle it. And basically,
Speaker 1: what he's done, he's created an audience of people that
Speaker 1: can handle who he is. And that audience is looking
Speaker 1: forward uh and and and happy that Mesis.
Speaker 2: Is on this journey with God. But Mesis is very real.
Speaker 1: He's very real with his audience, and he's real with
Speaker 1: himself and the fact that the way he makes his music,
Speaker 1: he will cuss in his music. But when you talk
Speaker 1: to Mesis one on one and like I have you
Speaker 1: see that he's just like you and me. We were
Speaker 1: just people trying to figure this thing out called life.
Speaker 1: So when I like when I got to actually speak
Speaker 1: to him, and it was very cool.
Speaker 2: And then shortly after I got another rapper friend.
Speaker 1: Named Jericho and they actually met up out and I
Speaker 1: think it was like Tennessee or something, and he hits
Speaker 1: me up and he's like, Bro, guess who I got
Speaker 1: right next to me. I'm like ooh, And he sends
Speaker 1: a picture of him and Mesis. So it's like the
Speaker 1: Holy Spirit bro is just moving. Like it was a
Speaker 1: privilege and an honor to have him on the podcast,
Speaker 1: but it's even cooler to know that I'm friends with
Speaker 1: Jericho who also knows him too. And it's like God
Speaker 1: always presents people like a stepping stone, opportunity to opportunity
Speaker 1: if I'm going to take it or not, and I've
Speaker 1: noticed that that was That was one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I liked that podcast, I guess is what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say is that it opened the door to
Speaker 1: just a different kind of philosophy, a different type of
Speaker 1: mentality and way of thinking, very similar to how me
Speaker 1: and you are doing right now right no matter how
Speaker 1: big I guess, maybe no matter how big you are
Speaker 1: of a celebrity, we can still come down and talk
Speaker 1: like brothers.
Speaker 5: Yeah you know, yeah, amen, ye like but yeah, mine
Speaker 5: was like that because I was that nerdy guy that
Speaker 5: what was weird. And I tell people this is how
Speaker 5: I know that it's God, because I was. I was
Speaker 5: always a smart guy, you know, or at least my
Speaker 5: mother said I was. I just didn't apply myself, you know.
Speaker 5: I was too busy chasing girls and drugs, and I
Speaker 5: mean I went down a pretty dark path for a
Speaker 5: long time, which I know that's you know, very rare.
Speaker 5: Nobody does that.
Speaker 2: But nobody has ever done, no Center amongst us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like Phil Robins said, I was always a C
Speaker 5: plus average guy and I just done that to get by.
Speaker 5: Never liked to read. But it was like in twenty twelve,
Speaker 5: I discovered Trey Smith from God in a Nutshell, and
Speaker 5: he opened my mind all this stuff. Then I just
Speaker 5: started reading and I could not stop. I just constantly
Speaker 5: reading two or three books at a time. And then
Speaker 5: once I started this show, I actually started getting to
Speaker 5: have conversations with these guys that basically, you know, Red
Speaker 5: peeled me and showed me all this cool, fascinating stuff
Speaker 5: right there in front of my face, in the bible
Speaker 5: of my entire life. So I was like, like that
Speaker 5: kid in the candy store that what are you calling
Speaker 5: the roadies behind the scenes out of guns and Roses concert.
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, yes, Well, I mean these are the
Speaker 1: people that inspired you, bro. They ignited something in you
Speaker 1: that you didn't really knew you had, and so you
Speaker 1: stumbled across it and then there was that fire that
Speaker 1: got lit. So I mean, of course you pay hobbage
Speaker 1: to the ones that.
Speaker 2: Grew you or you know, exposed you to it.
Speaker 5: And I should say yeah, So I told people for
Speaker 5: a long time it was like I could easily say,
Speaker 5: you know, I do this all for the Lord and
Speaker 5: for the kingdom. It's like, nah, Lord knows how to
Speaker 5: get you and put you in a position where you'll
Speaker 5: work best for him, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 5: So it's like he used my selfish desires to learn
Speaker 5: all this stuff and talk to all these guys and
Speaker 5: used it for his glory, right right.
Speaker 2: You flipped it, man, Yeah.
Speaker 5: So it's like, yeah, I don't care if anybody's watching,
Speaker 5: I'm enjoying the hall out of myself.
Speaker 2: Yay, dude, that's exactly it, man.
Speaker 1: And I like what you said though, too, is that
Speaker 1: you weren't a big reader growing up, and then you
Speaker 1: became one because you were interested in something. And I think, man,
Speaker 1: that's that fire, bro, because I'm the same way. I
Speaker 1: was not a big reader, but I will be reading
Speaker 1: NonStop like Christian Apologetics books now, like you know, like
Speaker 1: got the Jordan Peterson.
Speaker 2: Book, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like I'm over here just reading, like well, I try
Speaker 1: to read as much as I can in between posting
Speaker 1: every day. But for the most part, you fall in
Speaker 1: love with something new, bro, And it's different. It's a
Speaker 1: different discipline too, because it's like sitting there reading. I honestly, ran,
Speaker 1: I personally like reading out of a book rather than
Speaker 1: on my phone because you can really sit there and
Speaker 1: immerse yourself in it. And of course growing up, there
Speaker 1: was always an opportunity for us, and we were like, no,
Speaker 1: this is not for us. But when the subject hits,
Speaker 1: it hits.
Speaker 5: It does, and it takes the right thing just to
Speaker 5: grab you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no it does. Man. So like, do you do
Speaker 2: you mind if I asked you a couple of questions too?
Speaker 5: No, you go where I am and just kind of just.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of filling in a little bit. So what
Speaker 1: what made you come to know Jesus Christ? Like, out
Speaker 1: of all the gods in the world, why was it
Speaker 1: this one?
Speaker 5: Well, honestly it was. It was not. Honestly, it wasn't
Speaker 5: a choice to begin with. It was just a byproduct
Speaker 5: of my environment. You know. I'm from East Tennessee, so
Speaker 5: I was raised in the Bible Belt, true, and all
Speaker 5: my family were church goers. So by the time I
Speaker 5: was a little kid, I was in church every time
Speaker 5: the doors were open. But I was always fascinated by
Speaker 5: the Bible. And I was that annoying kid, probably to
Speaker 5: the teacher that would ask me in questions because I
Speaker 5: just had to know everything. You know. Yeah, Noah's arc
Speaker 5: you know, how did he get them on the boat?
Speaker 5: How many were there? Again? How old was Heah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my grandpa live that long.
Speaker 5: How come Goliath was that big? What was wrong with him? Yeah?
Speaker 5: So I was always fascinated with the Bible, and then
Speaker 5: got saved, or at least I thought I did. I
Speaker 5: just I seen everybody going up front and bound their
Speaker 5: heads and people praying over them, and I was like,
Speaker 5: you know what's going on up here? You know. My
Speaker 5: grandma was like, they're getting saved, you know, so now
Speaker 5: they're not going to go to Hell. And I was
Speaker 5: just like, oh, I don't want to go to hell.
Speaker 2: Sign me up?
Speaker 5: Can I go? You know, and went up there. And
Speaker 5: then once I went to uh high school and started driving,
Speaker 5: you know, that's when the full rebellion set in. But
Speaker 5: it wasn't honest till.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 5: Maybe seventh or eighth grade. I had a traumatic experience,
Speaker 5: and I just I lived out in the mountains, and
Speaker 5: I always loved walking through the woods. So I was like, well,
Speaker 5: I'm just going to go for a walk. I was
Speaker 5: always drawn to the woods. And I remember I was
Speaker 5: just walking up through the woods and there was this
Speaker 5: spot that I always liked to go to. Everybody's got
Speaker 5: their spots, you know, But halfway up the mountain it
Speaker 5: just leveled off completely, and there was all these stones,
Speaker 5: like a circular pattern all over the place up there.
Speaker 5: And I always liked to just go up there and
Speaker 5: sit in the rocks. And there was a perfect circle
Speaker 5: in the canopy up there. You could, you know, see
Speaker 5: the sky and stuff. Yeah, And I'd go up there
Speaker 5: and just be alone and sit with my thoughts. And
Speaker 5: I was up there, and I was just crying out
Speaker 5: to God, man, and I'll never forget it. I just
Speaker 5: started to say in the Center's prayer and praying for
Speaker 5: help and stuff. And I remember with my eyes closed
Speaker 5: and the head bowed. The clouds just broke open, and
Speaker 5: the sun just beat down on my head and I
Speaker 5: felt that warmth. Wh o me. Man, Yes, that's when
Speaker 5: I knew. I was like I wasn't say before, but
Speaker 5: I am now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good bro. I love hearing those stories and
Speaker 1: the days the angels rejoice, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like that's killer mm hmm. I wish more people about you,
Speaker 2: stand it. Yeah. Oh well, my story's a little different.
Speaker 1: Mine was more so, like you know, my dad was
Speaker 1: very abusive growing up when to my mom and my
Speaker 1: I got three other brothers, one old or too younger,
Speaker 1: we lived out in the farm in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1: My dad was very tyrannical, so he liked to bring
Speaker 1: us all out there on this property. We had like
Speaker 1: forty acres in the middle of nowhere, about thirty forty
Speaker 1: five minutes from town. And you know, he just was
Speaker 1: able to be a tyrant out there and very abusive,
Speaker 1: and we couldn't escape. So it was kind of like
Speaker 1: a moment where I try to pull everything out of
Speaker 1: myself to get myself out of the situation, and not
Speaker 1: just myself, but my brothers and my mom, which I
Speaker 1: care about and cared about, you know, of course.
Speaker 2: And uh, I remember about fourteen years.
Speaker 1: Old, man, I was in my dad's old shed and
Speaker 1: listening to a Creed album and I just laid there
Speaker 1: on the floor and I was like, God.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm in this situation. You brought
Speaker 2: me into this.
Speaker 1: You know, I know you exist because I can I
Speaker 1: can feel you, you know what I mean, Like I
Speaker 1: know the consciousness is there, you know, and like I can,
Speaker 1: I can feel it through myself, you know, like I'm
Speaker 1: being pulled to you. And uh, it's probably because you know,
Speaker 1: even as a young kid, my mom showed me a book,
Speaker 1: which obviously the Bible. I mean, sorry, they showed me
Speaker 1: the Bible, but it was that is the It is
Speaker 1: the book yeah, Proverbs in the Bible. And there was
Speaker 1: an illustration of King Solomon about to cut a baby
Speaker 1: in half. I don't know if you recall the story
Speaker 1: about you know, the mother. A true mother would scream,
Speaker 1: we would scream out if it was her own child,
Speaker 1: and sure enough she did, and King Solomon knew that
Speaker 1: that was the mother. But that story stuck out to
Speaker 1: me when I was six, right, and I was a
Speaker 1: raised Christian or anything like that. My mom just kind
Speaker 1: of hinted on it, you know, throughout my life growing up.
Speaker 1: And then when I was fourteen to kind of all
Speaker 1: collide it together, and I was like, listen, if this
Speaker 1: story is true, and this wisdom is true, and this
Speaker 1: Bible is true that you showed me when I was
Speaker 1: a child, please get me out of the situation with
Speaker 1: my family. And then I laid there on the floor. Man,
Speaker 1: I just felt the Holy Spirit just like pouring pouring
Speaker 1: in on me, you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm only fourteen.
Speaker 1: So I always obviously looked up to my mom and
Speaker 1: dad as the leaders of the home and honoring them
Speaker 1: in every way I could. So when I saw my
Speaker 1: dad be abusive, I didn't know how to stand up
Speaker 1: for certain things. I was small, puny and weak.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: Now I'm obviously I'm like six two hundred pounds, so
Speaker 1: now I can handle it. But back then, you know,
Speaker 1: you're just scrawny, little kid, just trying to find order
Speaker 1: in chaos. And eventually we left. My mom ended up
Speaker 1: getting dementia, and she passed away about two years ago.
Speaker 1: She was struggling for about ten years. They said that
Speaker 1: the onset of that dementia was due to the stress
Speaker 1: about what my dad was doing to her for all
Speaker 1: of those years. You know, her body just running, running dry,
Speaker 1: you know, and going running out a fuel. My younger brother,
Speaker 1: one of them, he came to know Jesus quickly, probably
Speaker 1: about three months before he actually died on the motorcycle accident.
Speaker 1: But I'm really happy that God gave me that time
Speaker 1: to present, you know, the salvation prayer for him. I
Speaker 1: got a younger brother who's kind of lives out in
Speaker 1: the city at West Palm Beach now by himself, and
Speaker 1: we're all kind of broken up. Bro, I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: with you and trying to get my mom out of
Speaker 1: the situation, got everyone out of the situation. My dad
Speaker 1: still lives on that same farm by himself, and there
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a redemption story. My dad
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily believe in Jesus and our God. He's an
Speaker 1: Indian man. He likes to call himself. He's he's out
Speaker 1: there and he's you know, praying to the Great Spirit.
Speaker 1: He lights bonfires and you know, runs around with a
Speaker 1: shirt off. He's that guy, and he was I guess
Speaker 1: I had a moment with them.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: I you know, I got I got a kid, now,
Speaker 1: I got my wife, and he's starting to see that
Speaker 1: now I'm becoming this man, and I got a you know,
Speaker 1: social media chain.
Speaker 2: I talk about God.
Speaker 1: I've been talking about God my whole life, bro, since
Speaker 1: I was six to fourteen till now. And my dad's
Speaker 1: never believed in God. And I think he's starting to
Speaker 1: come around. I'm hoping and praying. I hope he Geve
Speaker 1: sees this. That he comes over my house like every
Speaker 1: day and you know, I'll make him food and he'll
Speaker 1: you can see that he's getting older, and it's like
Speaker 1: I can see that he's trying to fix things, all
Speaker 1: the things that he had destroyed. And it's hard for
Speaker 1: me to really quite say this testimony because it's because
Speaker 1: I see him turning around, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, my dad was abusive, you know,
Speaker 1: and then leave it like that. It's like, no, he
Speaker 1: was abusive, But I do see that he's trying to
Speaker 1: develop into a better father, better grandpa, now, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I'm hoping that at the end
Speaker 1: of all this man somehow, maybe towards the end of
Speaker 1: his life, maybe he needs to go through it a
Speaker 1: little bit more that he'll come to know God or
Speaker 1: Jesus christ Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's powerful too, because a lot of people in
Speaker 5: that situation that goes through a lot of hardships and stuff,
Speaker 5: they run the other one a yah said christ. And
Speaker 5: and with the Indian you know background, that that really
Speaker 5: complicates things because I have some some Indian friends and
Speaker 5: they're Christians, but they give me some perspective, you know,
Speaker 5: on the the mindset of the Natives people is uh,
Speaker 5: the abuse of those people by quote unquote Christians, you know,
Speaker 5: because the settlers come here and they were Christians. They
Speaker 5: were trying to you know, deheathenize these quote unquote savages, right,
Speaker 5: and they mistreated them. They took their land and killed
Speaker 5: their people and took their women and just all the
Speaker 5: atrocities that they did. And they were flying the Christian
Speaker 5: banner behind them when they'd done it. So a lot
Speaker 5: of natives, man, they and they look at Christianity and Jesus.
Speaker 5: I mean I've heard them say it many times, that's
Speaker 5: the white man's God and they get mad.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's uh yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's a good angle, man, because it goes not
Speaker 1: just for the Indians, bro, it goes through years and
Speaker 1: years of just what we've done under the name of
Speaker 1: Christianity and flew those flags. And it sucks because it's
Speaker 1: like it's hard to dissect that particular part of it.
Speaker 1: Because Jesus is real, the Bible's true God is true.
Speaker 1: But we've created such a weird you know, the devil
Speaker 1: did man, you know what I mean, Like he interweaved
Speaker 1: himself through the words so carefully and craft fully that
Speaker 1: like somebody that's new to God, they'll look at that
Speaker 1: and immediately say, this is white man's religion. You know,
Speaker 1: like that's been hurt, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: that hurt in that emotion is going to trample, especially
Speaker 1: if their mom said it, their grand great grandfather told
Speaker 1: them that. They're going to take that word over your
Speaker 1: word all day because it's a part of their culture
Speaker 1: and who they are as people, and it's hard to
Speaker 1: break through that and show them the true love of
Speaker 1: God and the meaning of it rather than the hurt,
Speaker 1: pain and bloodshed that people have taken it too far.
Speaker 5: They were a misapplication of it.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. It's a misapplications. That's good.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And one thing I think if just us as
Speaker 5: a people could get down, it would just be the
Speaker 5: world would be such a better place because when you
Speaker 5: look at the creation, it says that let us make
Speaker 5: man in our image. So you were made as an
Speaker 5: image bearer. And it's kind of like an on earth
Speaker 5: as it is in heaven kind of thing. It's like
Speaker 5: when God made earth, he was making his temple. And
Speaker 5: it says when on the seventh day God rested, that
Speaker 5: mean he put his feet up and kicked back the
Speaker 5: recliner and turned on the football game. You know, his ruoch.
Speaker 5: His spirit dwelled within the temple. And every temple has
Speaker 5: a priest and an image of the God. And that's
Speaker 5: why God said make to you know, graven image, because
Speaker 5: we are the image bears. If we're doing it correctly,
Speaker 5: we're to rule justly and forgive and give love to
Speaker 5: each other and do all the things that our heavenly
Speaker 5: Father does here in his temple that he could give
Speaker 5: us dominion over. And it's like a mirror, you know,
Speaker 5: I tell people, Yeah, it's like, it's not a mirror
Speaker 5: that points straight up that way. When God shines his
Speaker 5: love down to us, we just shine it right back
Speaker 5: to him. Yes, sir, he shines that love down to us,
Speaker 5: we cast it out into the world.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. That's a really good way of looking
Speaker 1: at it. That is, he sat back and gave it
Speaker 1: some creation and said, you have dominion.
Speaker 2: Do it.
Speaker 1: And that also trails into the fact that I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, how could God be
Speaker 1: so evil and wicked? Look at the starving kids in Africa,
Speaker 1: and it's like, not that they're not starving because of God.
Speaker 1: God gave us plenty of resources. All we got to
Speaker 1: do is start applying those resources effectively, properly and without greed.
Speaker 1: There's plenty of it here, Bro, Everyone could be fine,
Speaker 1: but this is what we're this is the devil, bro,
Speaker 1: and this is what we're fighting against out here.
Speaker 5: And that goes back to to like this whole supernatural
Speaker 5: worldview that I've developed with the Bible and reading of
Speaker 5: Michael Heiser's work and stuff. Was Deuteronomy thirty two, because
Speaker 5: a lot of atheists and non believers will tell you,
Speaker 5: just like you said, you know, if you're if your
Speaker 5: God is in control, then he sucks at his job
Speaker 5: because look at all the atrocities in the world and
Speaker 5: look at this and that how come my sister was
Speaker 5: raped by our stepfather till she was six years old.
Speaker 5: And then you know, they plan and they can say
Speaker 5: all those things. Yeah, well, if you have that supernatural worldview,
Speaker 5: which is the worldview that the Biblical writers had, when
Speaker 5: you go to Deuteronomy thirty two, that's a retelling of
Speaker 5: the Tower of Bible, and there it says is not
Speaker 5: only was the tongues divided, it says that mankind was
Speaker 5: divided amongst bene high loh he the sons of God.
Speaker 5: And every time that phrase is used is talking about
Speaker 5: heavenly beings. And he says, but Jacob Israel is my
Speaker 5: allotted portion. And that's when he calls out Abraham and
Speaker 5: he says, but through your name all nations shall be blessed.
Speaker 5: Because he had a plan. The Messiah was going to
Speaker 5: come through aviation, but he was going to use him
Speaker 5: to take back all of those nations. And when you
Speaker 5: go to Psalms eighty two, that's who, that's who he's
Speaker 5: talking about. Well, he says, how long will you rule
Speaker 5: unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? You wish to
Speaker 5: have the eternal life, that you shall die and fall
Speaker 5: like any prince. He's talking to these rebellious sons of God,
Speaker 5: and those are the same ones that Paul's talking about
Speaker 5: when he says, we battle not against flesh and blood,
Speaker 5: but against rulers, principalities, and spiritual wickedness and high places.
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, that's good, bro, That's really good. Yeah, that's it, man,
Speaker 1: that's the exactly right, h Like paving the way for
Speaker 1: the Messiah. Man, is I love that whole Uh, the genealogy,
Speaker 1: the lineage of you know, Jesse to David to you know,
Speaker 1: eventually Jesus. You know, like that's a really cool setup,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that they got already
Speaker 1: had a pre planned and pre uh preordained for that
Speaker 1: to happen through that exact uh methodology.
Speaker 5: Yes. Cool. Yeah, protected the bloodline even during the days
Speaker 5: of Noah. Yes, because you had the genusis six of
Speaker 5: vent and it says that Noah and his family, that
Speaker 5: Noah was the only righteous man left. And when you
Speaker 5: go into the Hebrew languages, and that's what I love
Speaker 5: deep diving this stuff because there's so much stuff in
Speaker 5: that original language that us and our English translations always mess.
Speaker 2: We miss it every time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that even that even converts to the fact
Speaker 1: that that we're not even when we're explaining the Bible
Speaker 1: to people. It's almost like I could read the whole
Speaker 1: Bible right now, and it's I'm still missing context because
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing it in the light of which it was,
Speaker 1: the way that was written, or even in the language
Speaker 1: it was written.
Speaker 2: You know, you missed so much. And what do they
Speaker 2: call it lost in translation? You know?
Speaker 5: Yeah? In most cases, Yeah, that word righteous was to
Speaker 5: mem and that that same word is used in the
Speaker 5: reference of the blood in the sacrificial system of the animals.
Speaker 5: So he was the only pure blood left because the
Speaker 5: Nephylum had just spoiled the entire earth. Man, Wow, that's
Speaker 5: cool that thee.
Speaker 1: That's cool that that word means righteous too, because if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, I also thought it meant perfection. This
Speaker 1: is in the Bible that there was they considered, uh, Noah,
Speaker 1: I believe it was Noah and Abraham to be perfect.
Speaker 1: And people were like, well, how could he be perfect? Well,
Speaker 1: it's actually a perfection based on the obedience of knowing God.
Speaker 1: That when they lived their life in obedience to God,
Speaker 1: it was it was counted to them as righteousness, as
Speaker 1: a as a perfection. So when Jesus lived his life,
Speaker 1: it was also the same idea that he was perfect
Speaker 1: because why because he did the exact order and obeyed
Speaker 1: God throughout his whole entire life, and so did the
Speaker 1: other two. You know, they might obviously they made mistakes,
Speaker 1: but Jesus is perfect, perfect, the perfect Lamb. But they
Speaker 1: were considered perfect because of the obedience. And I thought
Speaker 1: that was a pretty cool take on that. And that's
Speaker 1: that same word tell.
Speaker 5: Him yeah to mim, yeah.
Speaker 1: Tell yeah, and tellios or tellos or something in Greek
Speaker 1: I believe is the same translation. But that's yeah, it's basically, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cool.
Speaker 2: It's all tied together. Bro. The Bible's a masterpiece.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, like you said, you use a big Jordan
Speaker 5: Peterson fan. I love that lecture he did where he
Speaker 5: showed the hyper linked Bible behind him with all those
Speaker 5: different reference points.
Speaker 2: Giant rainbow. Yeah, that was dude.
Speaker 1: And then I saw the one where they put the
Speaker 1: Koran right next to it and it only had like
Speaker 1: a small little rainbow. I'm like, dude, hyperlink sixty four
Speaker 1: thousand times, bro, Like that's insane. Yeah, how much time
Speaker 1: that would take to make a website with all them
Speaker 1: hyperlink bro? Impossible, especially during that time period forty different authors,
Speaker 1: one hundred what is it, a fifteen hundred years it
Speaker 1: took them to write the Bible? Dude, It's impossible. It
Speaker 1: would have to be God. People are just not friends, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not that dedicated. Yeah, or precise either. I
Speaker 5: was talking to my buddies one time and I said,
Speaker 5: you know, there's some atheists out there and say, oh,
Speaker 5: how easy could it have been for him to read
Speaker 5: all these prophecies and make sure he just checked a
Speaker 5: mile off the list before he died? And then I
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, and imagine you being that guy that
Speaker 5: checked everything off and now you're on the cross and
Speaker 5: here he comes with the clubs to break your legs,
Speaker 5: to make sure you suffocate fast, and you're like, no,
Speaker 5: I've got everything right up at this point. Don't break my.
Speaker 2: Bones, dude. True.
Speaker 1: Some would write this down before it's too late, like, no, man, No,
Speaker 1: it's sup perfect, bro. I've yeah, it's just really it's amazing, dude.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm so I'm addicted to God, man, I'm
Speaker 1: addicted to doing this. I'm addicted to conversations like this, man, Honestly, bro, Like,
Speaker 1: we could keep popping these out left and right, man,
Speaker 1: because I just I learned, man, and as I learned it,
Speaker 1: it just grows my faith makes me want to do
Speaker 1: it more.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Same. I just love the conversations. And I tell
Speaker 5: people it's the exchanging of puzzle pieces because we all
Speaker 5: have that mosaic picture, the thirty thousand foot of Christ, right,
Speaker 5: but when you zoom in, there's lots of missing pieces,
Speaker 5: so nobody has them all. So the more conversations we have,
Speaker 5: trading of ideas and experiences nuggets, man, exactly, We're going
Speaker 5: to get that full picture.
Speaker 1: We will, we will, man, and then when we pass on,
Speaker 1: we'll see it in its fullness and it's going to
Speaker 1: be the best.
Speaker 2: You know, it's unworldly, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, Jesse, before I let you go, brother, I
Speaker 5: don't want to tie you up. Man. I've been really
Speaker 5: appreciative of your time. But as a yeah, oh, I
Speaker 5: was just going to ask as a as a content creator,
Speaker 5: what has been your your biggest struggle that you've had
Speaker 5: to deal with in the content creation game? And then
Speaker 5: the second part to content creators like me and others
Speaker 5: that follow me and watch the show, what kind of
Speaker 5: advice would you give to someone that's, you know, in
Speaker 5: their first year, are still trying to get their footing
Speaker 5: and break into this type of work, or maybe just
Speaker 5: sitting on the sidelines and you know, debating on whether
Speaker 5: they should go or not. What kind of advice would
Speaker 5: you give?
Speaker 1: All Right, So to answer, I'm gonna start with the
Speaker 1: second one because I have to reiterate the first.
Speaker 2: I got dyslexia, man, So I'm like, oh, man, here
Speaker 2: we go.
Speaker 1: No, but if I could give anybody as some advice, bro,
Speaker 1: obviously consistency, but that's like the most generic thing you're
Speaker 1: going to hear on YouTube. But what that really means
Speaker 1: is that you create a video. You you create let's
Speaker 1: say three or four videos of that same level, right,
Speaker 1: the same production, the same maybe maybe change the script
Speaker 1: up a little bit, whatever you got. You need to
Speaker 1: lay everything out like a canvas, bro. You need to
Speaker 1: see the data information, You need to apply it into
Speaker 1: the algorithm and then be able to see the analytics
Speaker 1: because some of these, out of those four videos, one
Speaker 1: of them is going to do better than the other.
Speaker 1: Why did it do better than the other one? Then
Speaker 1: you double down on that? Is it the layout? Is
Speaker 1: the fact that I stacked a reaction video in my face?
Speaker 1: Was it the shirt color that I was wearing a
Speaker 1: post to the other three? And like, you break your
Speaker 1: videos down like a mad scientist, bro. That was me
Speaker 1: for the first six months of doing this. If you
Speaker 1: look at my very first couple of videos, they're wild,
Speaker 1: They're horrible, Like I leave them up there just to
Speaker 1: have this conversation, you know, so you can go back
Speaker 1: and laugh and I could laugh and be like, wow,
Speaker 1: thank goodness, I don't do that anymore. But I went
Speaker 1: through that and it got to a point where I
Speaker 1: figured out the perfect layout. And then I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, now, this whole posting time thing, what is that.
Speaker 1: I'm on Eastern Standard Time because I live on you know,
Speaker 1: that part of the United States. So I had to
Speaker 1: look up the best posting times for Eastern Standard Time,
Speaker 1: and I write that down into the mathematical formula, and
Speaker 1: then we're creating this giant list of Basically it's hard
Speaker 1: to say, like how to create viral videos right, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's always a coin flip in some sense. It's
Speaker 1: it's always probability, there's always a chance, but you can
Speaker 1: always train yourself to be able to create the highest
Speaker 1: pail probability of it going viral. So that's what you're playing.
Speaker 1: And if you could think about it. I heard someone
Speaker 1: tell me this one time. Think of social media like
Speaker 1: a four quadrants. Like you got a big circle dish
Speaker 1: and you cut it into fours like a big pizza pie.
Speaker 1: Then you spin it like a Russian roulette or like
Speaker 1: a roulette game like at a casino, right, the little
Speaker 1: ball spinning around. Now, if you can assemble at least
Speaker 1: three of those four quadrants and understand it, then you
Speaker 1: have a high You get a seventy five percent probability
Speaker 1: of it going viral, and then you double down on that,
Speaker 1: and now you're basically turning the odds and flipping it
Speaker 1: all into your favor to get the best chance of
Speaker 1: going viral every single time. And if you do it enough, eventually,
Speaker 1: like you could be able to just scroll through concept
Speaker 1: and be like, that won't go viral, that won't go viral.
Speaker 1: Oh what's today? Today's October thirty first Halloween. Probably something
Speaker 1: cool with Christianity and Halloween that might go viral because
Speaker 1: everything starts building up in probability, So it's all about timing,
Speaker 1: basing seasonality. It's also what other people are doing, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know if you follow like Ruslan or my
Speaker 1: buddy Cliff Buele, like he they got big followings too,
Speaker 1: so when they discover some new content, they might actually
Speaker 1: be reacting to it and Ruslan might make a podcast
Speaker 1: about it or or Russell Brand might do something. So
Speaker 1: you want to always follow suit what everyone else is
Speaker 1: kind of talking about, ride the wave and then flip it,
Speaker 1: add your own signature touch to it. So that's what
Speaker 1: I would say to someone who's just starting, like you
Speaker 1: need to just be able to identify and then pursue it.
Speaker 2: And then you know, deliver and then.
Speaker 5: Trying to spot that stuff.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a whole skill set that you
Speaker 1: got to learn. Man, it took me about I would say,
Speaker 1: six months, bro, and I was able to do this
Speaker 1: full time. So if you're a mad scientist, a psychopath
Speaker 1: and you you're sitting on here.
Speaker 2: Another cool thing I.
Speaker 1: Would like to say though, is there's a website called
Speaker 1: vid iq. I don't know if you've ever heard of that.
Speaker 1: I heard about it highly recommend. It's like fifty dollars
Speaker 1: a month, bro, change your life whatever, it will change
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 2: Like that's something.
Speaker 1: So basically what it does, it's an AI software you
Speaker 1: put in your video right on YouTube. It's only for YouTube,
Speaker 1: so YouTube shorts and stuff like that. But if you
Speaker 1: can build your YouTube, that means that you basically made
Speaker 1: it as a content creator, because that is what's going
Speaker 1: to allow you income financially.
Speaker 2: To pursue this full time.
Speaker 1: Because even though we're Christians, we believe in God, you
Speaker 1: still got bills to pay, You got family need see,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So like keeping it real
Speaker 1: when you get your YouTube channel up, that website, when
Speaker 1: you create a short and you put it in there,
Speaker 1: it'll even tell you between one to one hundred, how
Speaker 1: good is that title, and one hundred being the best.
Speaker 1: So what I do is, if I type it in
Speaker 1: it's a bad title, it'll be like at fifty percent,
Speaker 1: it'll be in red and I'm like, oh no. But
Speaker 1: what it does is it's checking the brevity, the way
Speaker 1: that it's written, the emotional triggers. Like it's got this
Speaker 1: whole psychological element to this software, dude, that basically is
Speaker 1: boosting the probability again visually speaking, and you know audiobly,
Speaker 1: all those different elements, it's all built into this software.
Speaker 1: So you can just put your video in there and
Speaker 1: rank it by following suit to the highest probability of
Speaker 1: it going viral, and you post it and Beryl, you
Speaker 1: do of those consistently, you're going to take off. And
Speaker 1: that's what I use for my YouTube channel vid Iq game.
Speaker 5: Change, which I mean that's kind of expensive, but at
Speaker 5: the same time, if you are already monetized and you
Speaker 5: have a really viral video, that monthly subscription will pay
Speaker 5: for itself within a week.
Speaker 1: Honestly, dude, I would even because a lot of people
Speaker 1: say the same thing. It's like, it is expensive, but
Speaker 1: it's I'm a big fan of putting money into something
Speaker 1: that I know is going to make more money, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's just business sense. And I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of King Solomon and Abraham to being businessmen and like
Speaker 1: minded like that.
Speaker 2: But man, dude, like when I.
Speaker 1: Say, like, you put fifty dollars in for a whole month,
Speaker 1: so what is that thirty pieces of content? You will
Speaker 1: be performing at this high level after that thirty days, Bro,
Speaker 1: You're going to start seeing your account start swipped like flipping, bro,
Speaker 1: Like it'll go for like a hockey stick growth from
Speaker 1: nothing to skyrocketing and that program in Yeah, it's fifty dollars,
Speaker 1: but man, after one hundred, you spend one hundred dollars
Speaker 1: and you've got two months of great, powerful content. It
Speaker 1: starts training you to be a better content creator. So
Speaker 1: I'm all, bit, I'm also a big fan of investing
Speaker 1: in myself man too. So if you're willing to take
Speaker 1: the plunge, that is that is the software i'd highly recommend.
Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, and then your first question, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: remember what it was in the introim of me saying
Speaker 2: all that.
Speaker 5: Oh, no, you're good. I was just asking, you know, like,
Speaker 5: as a content creator, what has been your biggest struggles
Speaker 5: or things that you've had to try to overcome, far
Speaker 5: as whether it's your personal life, the scheduling, working with
Speaker 5: the other creators, just you know, in that general sphere,
Speaker 5: and your biggest challenge that you've had to overcome.
Speaker 1: I say, my biggest challenge is spending time with my family. Like,
Speaker 1: even though I only I got to a point now
Speaker 1: where I only make one video a day, I should
Speaker 1: have added that's the first question. I just answered the
Speaker 1: last one. But you only have to make one video
Speaker 1: a day, dude. And sometimes I'll make one video and
Speaker 1: I'll be sitting in here overdoing it, being a mad scientist,
Speaker 1: diving into this way too deep, and I feel the
Speaker 1: Holy Spirit be like, hey man, you know I got you.
Speaker 2: All set up. You All you have to do is
Speaker 2: one video a day, post it on eight different platforms.
Speaker 2: And that's usually what I do.
Speaker 1: And then you get out and you go spend time
Speaker 1: with your kids or your kid and your wife. And
Speaker 1: I have such a hard time, bro, Like, even when
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there watching my son play with legos, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I got to get back in that office.
Speaker 2: Bro, I got it, Like.
Speaker 1: I'm addicted to it, like I love I love it
Speaker 1: too much, you know. And and it's a strange thing
Speaker 1: because you're like, how can you love God so much?
Speaker 2: You know? Or too much?
Speaker 1: But it's not that I don't love God, but there's
Speaker 1: another aspect of my life that I need to be
Speaker 1: applying God to. It's not just this, you know. It's
Speaker 1: not just reaction content. It's not just getting likes, views
Speaker 1: and engagement. Like, it's so much deeper than that. And
Speaker 1: that's something. And at the end of the day, bro,
Speaker 1: I don't think humans are supposed to be even on
Speaker 1: social media. I think this whole thing is a big
Speaker 1: train wreck at the end of the day, that it's
Speaker 1: not meant for us. Jesus and God is supposed to
Speaker 1: have the stage. So when you're looking at me and
Speaker 1: you're taking on my content, I hope you're not following
Speaker 1: me for I'm saying in general, like you're not following
Speaker 1: me because I'm Jesse Speaks, oh whoever that is, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm not like, you know, Jamie.
Speaker 1: Fox or Will Smith or some big celebrity name like
Speaker 1: who cares, you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: And I don't want people to fall in love with
Speaker 1: the character rather than the creator, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: M So that's something I have to always bring back
Speaker 1: and reel that in.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's definitely something that time can get away from me,
Speaker 5: especially if you're kind of obsessive, compulsive and love what
Speaker 5: you do. Man, time definitely flies. And that's something I've
Speaker 5: heard from a lot of content creators is on sing
Speaker 5: of time and family.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 5: You're definitely not alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thank god, bro, It's yeah.
Speaker 1: It's good to know that everyone's kind of I don't
Speaker 1: want to say suffering the same way, but like we're
Speaker 1: going through it.
Speaker 5: Glad everyone is suffering, just like I feel like I
Speaker 5: do feel Yeah, well, Jesse Man, thank you so much
Speaker 5: for giving your time because I know that that's life's
Speaker 5: most valuable resource. You can get more money, you can
Speaker 5: get more women, you can get more everything, but you
Speaker 5: can't get more time. So I appreciate you giving it
Speaker 5: to me today.
Speaker 2: You bet, justin, dude, I'm glad to be here. Man.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 5: Ray Before we go, let everybody know where they can
Speaker 5: find you. If you got any kind of you know,
Speaker 5: I think you do some programs and teaching.
Speaker 2: Yeah, stuff like that.
Speaker 5: Let everybody know where they can find you and your
Speaker 5: content and stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, so real quick, I'm on eight different platforms, all
Speaker 1: of which you're probably on, YouTube, TikTok, Facebook, all under
Speaker 1: the name Jesse Speaks, so you can find my content.
Speaker 1: Like I said before, it's a convenience store of science, God, philosophy.
Speaker 1: Indulge yourself in it, ask questions. It's all here to
Speaker 1: develop your character. Seek the Lord with all of your might.
Speaker 1: You know, no matter which walk of life you're coming from,
Speaker 1: everybody's welcome, gay, straight, lesbian. I don't care, like, get
Speaker 1: over here, come know the Lord. Change your life because
Speaker 1: He's changed our lives. And so that's that part. And
Speaker 1: then the last thing is I did create a course
Speaker 1: on some of the topics that we talked about. Just
Speaker 1: with the content creation, I got a course. It's about
Speaker 1: four and a half hours long. It's got forty four
Speaker 1: lessons in it. And I'm just going to tell you
Speaker 1: the price right now, because I don't sugarcoat anything.
Speaker 2: It's a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: But all of it goes back into me being able
Speaker 1: to post every single day, being able to build up
Speaker 1: the believer, build up other people that are.
Speaker 2: You know, doing this.
Speaker 1: And I would like to get to a point, honestly,
Speaker 1: if this thing starts really continuing to be able to
Speaker 1: buy equipment for people, buy laptops for people, I want
Speaker 1: to build an army of content Christian content creators that
Speaker 1: we can just canvass the entire social media world with
Speaker 1: God and basically what we're stuff that we're talking about, man,
Speaker 1: and that's it, basically in a nutshell, highly recommend it.
Speaker 2: It works, you can, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to like pop it up too much
Speaker 1: or brag about it or anything, but it is something
Speaker 1: that can change your life forever. I'm not just saying
Speaker 1: that God is my witness, Holy Spirit be over it,
Speaker 1: but it can change you financially. I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of I believe that all of us have about like
Speaker 1: a like a management that we all need to be
Speaker 1: doing right. There's a level of management business sense.
Speaker 2: God want. God gave us money. Money is just a tool.
Speaker 2: We use that tool to expand the Kingdom of God.
Speaker 1: You don't love money because money is the love of
Speaker 1: money is the root of all evil. But I do
Speaker 1: think that it's highly necessary for everybody to build because
Speaker 1: God wants you to be prosperous. And when we have
Speaker 1: dominion over this world, you know, we can crush the
Speaker 1: head of the serp, you know Jesus said. But through
Speaker 1: Jesus we're able to do it too. So if you're
Speaker 1: in that same boat you want to do social media
Speaker 1: Christian content, I got the course for you.
Speaker 5: Nice cool, yeah, man, Thank you so much, And guys,
Speaker 5: be sure to check out Jase. Just as you've seen today,
Speaker 5: he puts on no no facade, just as we talked
Speaker 5: about at the beginning of the show. Hey, what you
Speaker 5: see is what you get, and you will definitely enjoy
Speaker 5: his content because I've been enjoying it now for almost
Speaker 5: two years.
Speaker 2: Thank you man. Thank you very much for your timing.
Speaker 2: Coming on man, you bet bro any time man hit
Speaker 2: me up there. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, guys be sure to check out his stuff and
Speaker 5: until next time, torches Hi guys,