Speaker 1: You really need something like that that's going to help
stimulate the economy, at least in some of these individual's
point of view. And when I think about all the
people who have or who play a role more or
less when there is a conflict going on, not just
in military applications, but in medical in a myriad of things.
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Speaker 3: And welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial
Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Leutz. With us today
is Christian White. You find him at Christianevan White dot com.
He was kind enough to have me on his show
several weeks ago, and I realized we were kindred souls
or attitudes or views towards towards what's happening in the world.
And I would call it, Christian the curated lie and
the way tech has fit into that. All these things
and then cycles Martin Armstrong, all these things. Christian, it's
great to have you on the show. So what do
you think the top lie is that we're being fed
by the mainstream media, by the powers that be.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I don't know if I want to be canceled.
Oh gosh. Well, the one thing I have been hearing
is about October seventh, about it whatever, I might get
some slack, but it'd be more or less kind of
inside job or that, or that the power some of
the powers that be kind of allowed perhaps some of
that to happen. And so that that was one one
topic that's been kind of in our set. I've been
kind of going down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know about inside job, but perhaps
it was like a Pearl Harbor type thing where maybe
they knew something was coming. I don't think if they
knew how bad it was, they would have allowed it.
But this was not something that just came out of
thin air. So what about lies in our everyday life?
Here lies that we are told, and we are told
repeatedly that their truth.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean a part of gosh, there's a myriad
of things that I think you're I think the first
one is I mean, certainly, COVID. I think for sure
that you have a lot of the reasons as to
why we've gone into these other countries that we've done
regime chain, think, regime change and things of that nature.
I think, I think there's a lot of a lot
of stuff that's been misconstrued. I'm trying to think of
everyday things. I mean, I just feel like as i'm
more as I go down this rabbit hole, more and more, Carrie,
I am less and less trusting of legacy media on
both sides of the aisle. I just think a lot
of stuff is just highly sanitized. And I you know,
I find myself listening to alternative media more and more,
and I'm you know, I'm not saying I'm right on
these things, just like the first controversial comment I made
there earlier. But I don't know, I don't know how
about you.
Speaker 3: Well, today's conspiracy theorist is tomorrow's truth teller. And to me,
like the biggest lie about the economy is everything's fine.
The economy is growing, everybody's getting better, the standard of
living is going up, and the global economy no problem.
Everything is fine. And I just find that to be
kind of absurd mm hmm.
Speaker 1: You got to love those CPI numbers and in jobs
reports that they that they release. Yeah, it's it's it's
just fascinating how they gauge the basket of goods for
for CPI and how that's misconstrued I think in a
lot of ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's like I say, it's the curated lie,
and uh, you know, but people want to be lied too,
don't you think many of you out there want to
maintain the illusion because if you really admitted what was happening, well,
that would change your world view. It would be a
paradigm shift, wouldn't it.
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think if again, you know, from the various
guests I've had on and I know you've had a
lot of you know, outstanding guests, the more I the
more one goes down the rabbit hole and and and
you know, tries to uh, you know, better understand than
each of this world. I think there's a lot of things,
you know, particularly like the Epsteine things and things of
that nature, that if if people were truly aware of
what has happened, what's gone on, it probably make their
their skin crawl. I mean, uh, there's there's a lot
of there's a lot of stuff I think that goes on.
That's just there's a myriad of things. Again, whichever direction
you want, you want to take that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the Epstein thing, everybody just seems to want.
Speaker 4: To brush it, you know, rug sweep it.
Speaker 3: And you know, the only person in jail is supposedly
willing to tell all, but nobody wants to listen to her,
right m And clearly, clearly that was an intelligence set up.
There's not a question we go back to Hugh Hefner,
all right, he's the original honeypot. There's not there's almost
no question he was an intelligence operative, right, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to me as
I'm learning about how some of the powers that be,
I don't want to say all of it in Hollywood,
even how blackmail is used sexual in nature or in
other capacities, and how that's how that's leveraged.
Speaker 4: You know it, you know it.
Speaker 3: Nobody's perfect, and the deep State has the ability to
use all of your mistakes against you nowadays with social media,
with Google computers, right you're looking at they have everything
you've ever written, said, every phone call you've ever made,
has been recorded. Every piece of mail Christian that you
have gotten since nine to eleven has been scanned, at
least the outside envelope has been and it's been archived.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh yeah, I wouldn't be surprising. And to add
to that, I mean, you mentioned on the show last
time when I had you on about DARPA, and that
was something I was not aware of. And to tie
it in with the kind of the surveillance kind of
a nature of things post nine to eleven.
Speaker 4: And I wasn't making that up, was I.
Speaker 1: That's uh, that's pretty fascinating. And I'm I'm been hearing
more about I'm actually having on a gentleman James rug Ski.
I might be gosh watching his last things having him. Yeah,
he's gonna be unpacking the who and some of these
NGOs and other means by which people are able to,
you know, effectuate their agendas.
Speaker 3: Totally totally true. Hey, and uh, but you know I
have a T shirt I should have worn it for
this show. It says I'm an I identify as a
conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 4: My pronouns are told you, So there you go.
Speaker 3: It's just funny because everything they've told you that isn't true.
Speaker 4: Guess what happens? It turns out to be true, right,
m hm, you know, And I wanted to mention, Oh sorry,
go ahead, how does that happen?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, Well again some of the stuff that
I you know, I'm like I said that first statement
I made, which is rather bold. You know, I think
about our mutual friend Amarin Armstrong, how he's you know,
referenced to the Lusitania Gulf of Tonkin incident. You know,
there's talk of Pearl Harbor. I know this stuff sounds
like just you know, fantasy. But again, you know, not
everyone's like you and me, and not everyone shares the
same values. And there's there are certain individuals out there
that are, you know, hell bent on fomenting, whether it's
a war or civil strife or taking advantage advantage of
the system in many ways. So yeah, yeah, I feel yeah,
I'm unplugging more and more.
Speaker 3: You know, there was a comedy act and I got
a few years on you back in the seventies called
Fire Signed Theater, and they had a skit which basically
said everything you know is wrong. And longer that I
the more I come to the conclusion that they were right.
Everything you think you know is wrong. You know, whether
it's nine to.
Speaker 4: Eleven Pearl Harbor, World War One, why wars happen?
Speaker 3: Who makes money right? Who doesn't? All these things? Everything
you think you know, you really need to question. So
here's a question for you. How do you how do
you figure out what's the truth and what's the lie?
Speaker 1: Well, I think for starters, I look at it as
what is being put out there from legacy media channels.
And I'm not saying everything they put out there is
full on liar or bogus, but not also want.
Speaker 4: To preface, well, are you sure about that?
Speaker 1: Well, I look, I mean obviously there's a lot of
stuff they put out there that is as manipulated as
and if it's a narrative. But you asked me, how
do I go about deciphering that. I listen to different
viewpoints and I kind of do deductive reasoning and draw
my own conclusions based off whether you know, whether it's
a history or just kind of common sense, just certain
certain channels, Right, they have a certain narrative they're trying
to peddle. So uh, and I'm not saying that I
know I know the inside scoop because I'm I'm I'm learning.
It's I don't think that no one truly knows the
nature of things. But that said, I you know, I
have some opinions on those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well so so the narrative. We got this thing
called narrative control. And it doesn't matter what the truth is,
It's all about the narrative. So my question for you is,
how do you how do you break the narrative? What's
your your strategy on it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think we live in a golden age
right now, Carrie, whereby you know, media is is that
a place where it's never been? I mean, you know historically,
you know, you go back, you know, twenty plus years.
If you or I wanted to have a voice and
put ourselves out there, we'd have to go through those
gatekeepers and we'd have to you know, have the resources
and the technology in order to disseminate information. Now it's
become so democratized that anybody can can dissemine it and
can put out information, you know, And so I think
part of that is sharing what you're observing, what you know.
It doesn't have to be you know, one hundred percent,
you know, per se where we know the vertic is,
but at least having that dialogue, having that conversation. I
think we're starting to see that more, just like with
the past election that we had, how you know, people
like Rogan and other podcasters how I mean, look at
how Trump was able to galvanize that that voter base
in things of that nature, or even the New York
and mayoral candidate, how he's been able to tap into
media in ways previously inaccessible.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So true, but that's a plus and that's a minus, right.
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Well, Well, we saw, of course what
they did during in the past handful of years. I
know Mark Zuckerber's has spoken about that on shows how
and even with Jack Dorsey with with with Twitter at
the time, how they felt pressured they needed to do this,
they needed to do that. So I think people are
coming more aware of how algorithms and how things are
able to you know, create these echo chambers and and
and and pedus against each other more and more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're good at it, right, They're good, absolutely, yes. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So so you know they tell us all these things
like the dollar is going to last forever, right, and
you know it's just it's lies.
Speaker 4: And not only that, but it's it.
Speaker 3: Really hurts people because nobody's ready for it, you know,
it forces them not to prepare for the next evitable, right, Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know, I think of all the all the guests
that I've had on I think of, you know, the
common denominator they mentioned about is the you know, the
money printing, the Fiat, you know, debasement going on, and
I think of you know, Voltaire he mentioned back, I
think this from in the seventeen twenties with that Mississippi
company whereby yeah, a Scotsman came over to France and
pushed for you know, basically a Fiat type system and
there's a big rush into that and that kaboom and
he fled, He fled, the country caused a lot of issues.
So I don't think. I don't think an The only
thing that's constant is change, I think in this world.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and even that you have to think about sometimes
because what you think change is oftentimes isn't really change,
is it.
Speaker 1: Where are you seeing the putt going as a relate
to that, and obviously the the uh, you know, we
got the rise of the bricks Nations and there's talking
about Breton Budge two point zero things of that nature.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think they're not going to be able
to accomplish anything until there's a major financial collapse.
Speaker 4: That's my honest opinion, because.
Speaker 3: Because they're kind of just prepping, I see them as
national preppers, and you know, at some point, no doubt
they'll be right.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's just I just don't see it.
It's a well, it'll happen.
Speaker 3: Little by little, as our friend Andy Sheckman says, until
it happens really fast.
Speaker 4: And that's the scary part, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh well it's like the heming. We all
it's gradual then all but sudden.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of a sudden, you know, then it happens,
and you know, uh, they'll keep doing it till till
it doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, And again the common theme that I've you know,
that that I've observed with many of the guests said
that had been on is hey, you I well, they're
not going to default. They're not going to allow that
to happen. So they need to find a way to
figure out this, uh, this this conundrum that they're in.
So I think you've got to have the boogeyman. You
got to have a pretext, and I think that's why
do you think you are?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 4: I saadly, I think that's the case.
Speaker 1: I think Martin's on the money on that.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Well, I think they're gonna the strategic Bitcoin Reserve is
what it's all about, try to inflate the price of
bitcoin and use that to to basically pay off the deficit.
That's my theory, but I'm willing to say I could
be wrong, but it just seems very convenient that we
have a president who's gone all in on crypto. When
I was at the Bitcoin twenty twenty five conference, I
was told there that over half the contributions coming into
the Republican Party are from crypto related entities.
Speaker 4: I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1: I think Lutnik is pretty big on.
Speaker 4: That, all of them. Trump too, look at the Melania
coin and the Trump coin and all that good stuff, right, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I was just going to say, and then I look
at the riots in La immigration riots, and again, those
are manufactured. Those aren't organic, they're not real. They're created
by a party trying to push its own agenda. Not
that the other side isn't. I'm not going to judge
on who's right or who's wrong. I have my feelings,
but I see it as just more of the same here.
Speaker 1: Well, I had a notable irishman named John waters on
recently and I couldn't believe how well received that that
conversation was. What he had to say. He talked about
how Ireland is being the Irish so to speak in
his words, and how you've got a lot of the
power some say, behind the Bank of England, behind the
BIS going over there, as Ireland's been more or less
kind of pillaged for the past, you know, several hundred years,
and now that's been kind of a testing ground to
see what they're able to do. And you know, you
hear a lot of talk about civil strife headed down
the pipeline, especially over in the UK.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all over the world.
Speaker 3: And that's another thing Armstrong mentioned is that you know,
the civil unrest cycle, the war cycle, all these cycles
coming to fruition here. And you know, he says the
dollar will remain pre eminent until twenty thirty two, makes
you wonder. But then on the other hand, he said
the dow is going to hit forty thousand between twenty
two and twenty four, and he was spot on and
so many of his other calls. So you got to wonder,
but what concerns you right now personally the most Christian.
Speaker 1: Gosh, probably some type of kinetic false flag event. Really
can't candidly, Yeah, I would say something like that. I
think you really need something like that that's going to
help stimulate the economy, at least in some of these
individual's point of view. And when I think about all
the people who have or who play a role more
or less when there is a conflict going on, not
just in military applications, but in medical in a myriad
of things. Alex Skreener, who I follow some of his work,
you know, he's got some remarkable insights on how these
private central banks coupled with uh, these these corporations are
able to go in you know, they use the regime
change or some pretext to go in there extract resources
banks can put on their balance sheet, they can then
lend further. You've got all these angos in the picture
of the mix, so I could see something that false flag.
It could be another help pandemic, or it could be
some type of you know, kinetic thing.
Speaker 3: Who knows, Yeah, well, I'm with you. I see, I
see things happening here that at one time in my
life would have shocked me.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: There's one piece of advice that you can give to
everybody out there listening to and watching us.
Speaker 4: Now, what would you tell them?
Speaker 1: I would say, be as selfish, excuse me, self sufficient
as you can. Obviously, not everyone has the means or
the ability to, you know, buy another piece of property
that's maybe adjacent outside the city and sex. But I
think that if you can have some of your reserves,
and and I'm not going to pretend that I'm mister
perfect when it comes to this by any means, but
I would say making sure you have you know, those reserves.
By that, I mean like you know, basic supplies and such.
Maybe a backup generator, Yeah, who knows. I mean, look
what happened in Spain not not too long ago with
those with the power I was there.
Speaker 4: It's so funny you mentioned it. I was there that
day and that was all a result.
Speaker 3: Now they're saying of trying to balance the green energy
the power grid with the It's really difficult to do
that without massive amounts of battery storage, which no place
in the world has yet. But it will come online.
And honestly, it wasn't like that bad. It couldn't take
the subway, managed to get dinner. I was fortunate that
my hotel had a backup generator and never lost internet.
But it really was like not a bad experience. But
if it had lasted for a couple more days, there
would have been pandemonium. Because Spain is the least press
country in the world. Christian they're credit card readers stopped
reading all right. Everything became a cash economy instantaneously. So
in a way, what you're saying is like a preview
of potential things to come, right. What happens when the
ATM doesn't work, What happens when the credit card swiper
doesn't swipe?
Speaker 1: Well, absolutely, And I'm not going to go off in
a tangent and speculate that we're going to see some
post apocalyptic you know thing per se, but yeah, I
think you know, things operate in cycles, and yeah, I
wouldn't be surprised. We're so dependent and we're so fortunate
in the West to have access to the resources that
we have. And you know, another facet to that, I think,
despite I know a lot of doom and gloom, you know,
I have a lot of guests on in Sex where
they talk about, well, this isn't going that's it. I
still think we live in the best time to date
in human history. I mean the amount of people that
have been taken out of poverty over the past several
day decades. You know, people have basic needs. Sure, you
know things could be improved upon, but access to resources,
you know, endless entertainment, I mean, you name it. I
mean we have it pretty good compared to you know,
going back plus even yeah, go going back you know,
seventy plus eighty plus years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could not agree with you more. I think
it's a pretty amazing time to be alive. As my
friend Jason Hartman would say. And hey, Christian, best place
to find your work, best place to connect with you
on the web?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Christianevanwhite dot com. And you can reach me at
Christian at Christianevanwhite dot com as well. And yeah, I've
got a YouTube channel called the disc let's under my
name Christian E.
Speaker 4: White.
Speaker 1: But my show is called Discourse with Christian And yeah,
that's how you can.
Speaker 3: Reach me, all right, And the link will be in
the show. That's this interview on financial Survival Network dot com.
Really appreciate you coming on, Christian, We will talk to
you again soon.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Hey Kerrie, much appreciated.
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