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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now Here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I can say that I'm over the loss

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<v Speaker 2>that the Ravens took on Sunday night. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>still hate it that it played out the way that

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<v Speaker 2>it did. But what I fear is, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't fear it. I really shouldn't get worked up about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have learned that despite knowing that, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>control it, and no matter what happens with Lamar, there's

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<v Speaker 2>always going to be naysayers like I. Just the anxiety

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<v Speaker 2>that I had watching worrying about what would be said

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<v Speaker 2>about Lamar. I mean, that's what pissed me off so much,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's silly, but I know I'm not alone because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Lamar is a legend around here, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about it here and there throughout the week that

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar has given me a very unusual experien that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I'll ever have again, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>that I am such a fan and want him to

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<v Speaker 2>succeed so bad. Therefore, I want and need his team

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<v Speaker 2>to win for that to you know, work out. But

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<v Speaker 2>yet I don't really like the Ravens, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like any of it. I mean, when he's got teammates

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<v Speaker 2>that are out there making plays, you know, I'm happy

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<v Speaker 2>to see it, but like it all is due to Lamar,

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<v Speaker 2>Like when guys mess up. I'm not mad that the

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<v Speaker 2>Ravens may lose. I'm mad that Lamar might not get

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<v Speaker 2>a win. And it's gonna be you know, weaponized against

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<v Speaker 2>him because he's the quarterback and they carry more of

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<v Speaker 2>the weight than anybody when it comes to teams winning

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<v Speaker 2>and losing. So I'm you know, it hasn't been as

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<v Speaker 2>bad as I thought it would be. And I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's he's gonna win his third MVP. We

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<v Speaker 2>know that. And yes, then it'll get you know, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>get started up again. Meeting people will continue to to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, remind everybody that he's not been as good

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<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs and all that's true, but the MVP

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<v Speaker 2>award is not a postseason award and it can never be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, people can get mad that a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't as good in the regular season ended up playing

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<v Speaker 2>better in the playoffs. Like that's great, and honestly, the

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<v Speaker 2>legacy is way way more impacted by what you do

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<v Speaker 2>in the postseason and when it comes to Super Bowls

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<v Speaker 2>and all that kind of stuff. The MVP is not

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<v Speaker 2>as much. And it's because it's a regular season award,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was the best player in the NFL the

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<v Speaker 2>last two years and he's gonna win his third MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>But he collected the twenty twenty four NFL Most Valuable

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<v Speaker 2>Player by the Professional Football Writers Association, a very well

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<v Speaker 2>respected organization that you know, those guys cover ball, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine most of them are objective, and they

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<v Speaker 2>they have given him second consecutive award for the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>Player of the Year in their eyes, and the third

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<v Speaker 2>time he's ever had it going back to his first year.

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<v Speaker 2>Is MVP. So the guys who vote for this, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Football Writers of Association and the AP which named

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<v Speaker 2>him the first team quarterback in the NFL All Pro,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of those guys vote for the NFL MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would imagine it'll be Lamar, and that's great,

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<v Speaker 2>and it'd be even it'd be worse if like we

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<v Speaker 2>had to you know, except that like maybe Lamar wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>as good as we thought he was. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that's it. Clearly he was a little tight. His whole

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<v Speaker 2>team was. I don't I'm not gonna blame it on Harball,

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<v Speaker 2>but because Hardball's done good enough, but there seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be something funky going on within their culture. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean they have a bad culture, but for some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just not as good and they're a little tight

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<v Speaker 2>and make some mistakes that you don't expect them to

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<v Speaker 2>make in the playoffs. So you know, like the Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Andrews drop is one thing, but like the fumble that

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<v Speaker 2>he had, like that's uncharacteristic as hell Lamar. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>people will make the joke about, well, you know that's

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<v Speaker 2>him in the playoffs. I mean the mistakes he made.

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<v Speaker 2>The two turnovers he had in the first half were

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<v Speaker 2>disastrous turnovers. Like even when Lamar's not playing well, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't typically see him do that. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>doubt they make any kind of changes, But if they did,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't necessarily be against it, if I'm being honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, just because your window with Lamar isn't closed.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've had really good seasons that have resulted in

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<v Speaker 2>disappointing earlier than expect did losses. In the playoffs, and

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean you blow it up and start all over.

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<v Speaker 2>You clearly have a three time MVP. Your window is

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<v Speaker 2>still very much open, and you've got some good pieces

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<v Speaker 2>around him. But with Henry at any moment maybe falling off.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people thought it would be this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Andrews is old, probably not even going to

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<v Speaker 2>be with him next year. They do have some young

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<v Speaker 2>talent that I'm pretty bullish on, so you know, why not,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I feel like you kind of you've maxed out

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<v Speaker 2>with the hardball, right, like, go get somebody, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>unusual to fire somebody who has been that successful. But

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<v Speaker 2>do you mean, do you expect him to get the breakthrough?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe he will. I mean he's won a

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<v Speaker 2>super Bowl before, but that was a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would just be excited to hear them mixing

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<v Speaker 2>something up. And what they're not going to do is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, move on from their star players who they

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of money tied to that they know

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else would want. So I doubt they make any change,

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<v Speaker 2>But if they did, I wouldn't. I wouldn't wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>against it. And by the way, like it's not something

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<v Speaker 2>we should be bragging about, because again, Lamar is held

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<v Speaker 2>to a standard that is different because he's so good

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<v Speaker 2>and such a special player. We're talking about a three

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<v Speaker 2>time MVP right now, potentially, I mean, it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to win it. But to see that he

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<v Speaker 2>did make big plays on the road to come back

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<v Speaker 2>from you know, a deficit, that ninety plus yard drive

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<v Speaker 2>to score and then throw it where it needed to

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<v Speaker 2>be and Andrews dropped it. Again, it's bittersweet. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not really sweet at all, but like, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>something we can brag about because again, Lamar needs to

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<v Speaker 2>win these playoff games. We know he's great, but man,

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<v Speaker 2>what a drive he had late. Like it'd be different if,

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm trying to find the silver lining, it'd be

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<v Speaker 2>different if Lamar, like, you know, we had to to

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<v Speaker 2>realize that the guy just isn't as good as we

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<v Speaker 2>thought he would be. The guy has exceeded the expectation

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<v Speaker 2>in a major way in the NFL, and that'll that's

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<v Speaker 2>something that will be true regardless of what ends up

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<v Speaker 2>happening with him down the line here in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm ready to see who we end up getting

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<v Speaker 2>in the Super Bowl matchup. I'm definitely pulling for the Bills,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely pulling for the Commanders, but I would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's likely going to be a rematch of the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 2>and the Eagles, which was that two years ago in

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl. It was right, Yes, so that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>what we're gonna get. And if that's the case, then

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be all in on the Eagles, although I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>do you give the Commanders much of a chance here?

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think you have to. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>realize they can win given what they've been doing, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a rookie quarterback going into that situation Philadelphia. It's

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<v Speaker 3>probably gonna be like below freezing temperature, is probably snowy,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have a good defense, and of course the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Hurts can get every third and fourth and one

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<v Speaker 3>on Earth imaginable. So it's it's gonna be an uphill climb,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do give them a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hurts is one of those guys that I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of talking heads has kind of indicated that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he stepped back a little bit from a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago. But he's clearly good enough, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, he never does turn the ball, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, that's that's something that you're not supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to do, right, So again, do we really want to

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<v Speaker 2>guess up and praise somebody for doing what they're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to do, Like that doesn't take a lot of talent.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, there's a lot of talented guys

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<v Speaker 2>out there that do get a little too sure of

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<v Speaker 2>themselves and make mistakes and cough it up, and it happens,

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<v Speaker 2>and it can it'll kill your games. So when you've

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<v Speaker 2>never turn it over and you can get those third

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<v Speaker 2>and ones like you mentioned, and they have the push

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<v Speaker 2>push and all that, like, you don't have to be

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<v Speaker 2>out there crazy precise with your arms. So this Eagles team,

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<v Speaker 2>they're the team that quite literally I knew was good,

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<v Speaker 2>but to see their record once we got into the postseason,

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<v Speaker 2>and now that I've watched them play a couple of games,

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<v Speaker 2>like they could they could easily be the super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>champs this year, Like it wouldn't be a wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>a big shocker. And I hope that they are the

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<v Speaker 2>winners if in fact it is them taking on the

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City Chiefs. So we've got plus six right now

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<v Speaker 2>for the Commanders in a very close game here between

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City and Buffalo. As far as the line, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got Kansas City right now minus one and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably won't. I mean I will at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll probably right before kickoff, decide to do something here

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<v Speaker 2>with the Bills and the Chiefs. But I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>take the Commander's plus six just because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they can cover that and they've got a lot of momentum.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Bills Chiefs game, I mean, maybe the over

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven and a half is the total way you think,

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<v Speaker 2>you like, actually both games are said at forty seven

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<v Speaker 2>and a half. I think the over actually has a

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<v Speaker 2>better chance of going over in the Commander's Eagles game

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<v Speaker 2>than it does the other one. But maybe that's just me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Kansas City like pull up there. Like again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's weird to say that they're they're down or that

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<v Speaker 2>they're you know, they're vulnerable, because like, they won a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of games this year, but they just didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>it seemingly in the same fashion as they did in

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<v Speaker 2>previous years, you know, when they were winning Super Bowls.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe it's wishful thinking on my end that they

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<v Speaker 2>are in fact not quite as good of Maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>is a slightly less good version of them as we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen win the Super Bowl. I mean, it's the same ingredients, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Andy Reid, Chris Jones, Pacheco is

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<v Speaker 2>now part of and you know, but look at their

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<v Speaker 2>total numbers here in the NFL. So I rarely ever

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<v Speaker 2>have any success or luck, I should say, when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to betting over unders in the NFL. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm a little more accurate when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>college football, and I'm actually better at that this year

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<v Speaker 2>in basketball than i am betting spreads. But the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 2>they scored twenty three against Houston. They didn't score, of

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<v Speaker 2>course against Denver because they didn't play any starters. That

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<v Speaker 2>was just dud of it was they didn't even try.

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<v Speaker 2>But they put up twenty nine against Pittsburgh. They also

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<v Speaker 2>put up twenty seven against Houston. In the previous time

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<v Speaker 2>they played them. They scored twenty one against Cleveland, they

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<v Speaker 2>scored nineteen against the Chargers, nineteen against the Raiders, thirty

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<v Speaker 2>against Carolina, twenty one in that loss they had when

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<v Speaker 2>they went to Buffalo, so you know, they've got Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've got Kelsey, and they've got I mean, Andy

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<v Speaker 2>kind of confirm what I've felt when watching them this year.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just they're just doing what they do, but they

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<v Speaker 2>don't look as scary and that makes me at least

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<v Speaker 2>can't say that I'd be shocked if they once again

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<v Speaker 2>win another Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes was asked about the

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the facts. I mean I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes was asked about the chatter or asked about

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<v Speaker 2>the rumors. Patrick Mahomes was asked about the facts, and

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<v Speaker 2>he disagreed with the facts, which means he's I guess delusional.

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<v Speaker 2>He was asked about the favorable whistle that Kansas City

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<v Speaker 2>and Mahomes get. And this is from Mike Catalana, who

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<v Speaker 2>He ran these numbers and I'm gonna assume they're correct,

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<v Speaker 2>says Patrick Mahomes said on Wednesday that he does not

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<v Speaker 2>believe the Chiefs get favorable calls from the officials, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he has a breakdown here of the penalty numbers

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<v Speaker 2>from the last eleven Chiefs playoff games. Kansas City thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six penalties for three hundred and nineteen yards, their opponents

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<v Speaker 2>sixty six penalties nearly double and forty one yards. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean they get a favorable whistle. However, if

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<v Speaker 2>you watch and then you look at those numbers, like

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<v Speaker 2>people just feel like it's confirmed. And I'll be consistent.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what the Chiefs do and this is I

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<v Speaker 2>think what makes them such a successful franchise with the

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<v Speaker 2>current regime they have with just I mean, they've got

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<v Speaker 2>a great like they're a winning franchise, right, they do

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<v Speaker 2>things well and they win. Sometimes it's not as pretty

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<v Speaker 2>clearly they have a lot of haters, but like they win.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think an element to them getting you know,

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<v Speaker 2>those numbers clearly looking as if they're not penalized like

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<v Speaker 2>their opponents are. I think there's partial truth to where

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<v Speaker 2>they are gonna get benefit of the doubt, Like if

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bang bang play coin flip, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do. I believe revs they're humans too. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I know they are, but I believe they will probably

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<v Speaker 2>just eer on. Not mean it's not a premeditated thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's part of the human element that

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<v Speaker 2>comes with officials. Like they you know, like Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of calls. You know why, because he

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<v Speaker 2>was Michael. Patrick Mahomes is not Michael Jordan of football,

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<v Speaker 2>but like he's clearly going to get more calls than

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<v Speaker 2>guys that aren't Patrick Mahomes at quarterback, and the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 2>are going to get more calls than you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina Panthers. I mean that shouldn't be the case, and

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<v Speaker 2>it pisses you off, But like think about sports from

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of time, Like, referees are humans, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I've always thought it was silly that people want

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<v Speaker 2>refs to be accountable and refs to have postgame press

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<v Speaker 2>conferences so they can answer questions about bad calls. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've always said that, while I understand you want somebody

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<v Speaker 2>to try to explain a certain call, I think you'd

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<v Speaker 2>be very underwhelmed by these press conferences and maybe only

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<v Speaker 2>watch a couple of them and then never watch again.

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<v Speaker 2>You know why, because they know that they don't make

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<v Speaker 2>the right call every time they know that they make mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't be like they would sit here and defend

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<v Speaker 2>every single call and you would be and you would

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<v Speaker 2>be able to, like, you know, show them proof and

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<v Speaker 2>dunk on them. There may be certain calls they would

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<v Speaker 2>just say my judgment and we can disagree, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it's just that close. But like refs, reps make mistakes

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<v Speaker 2>just like players and coaches, and that's a factor in this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not because there's this premeditated bias. But again, they're humans.

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<v Speaker 2>So therefore, even when you don't know it or you

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<v Speaker 2>don't realize it, you can at times just I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong here. I think there's certain things

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<v Speaker 2>in life where you can believe that you are one

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<v Speaker 2>thousand percent objective, but like you're probably not because I

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<v Speaker 2>find that to be like, you know, find that to

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<v Speaker 2>be kind of impossible. So anyways, I think there's an

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<v Speaker 2>element to it where they are getting favorable calls because

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<v Speaker 2>they're the chiefs right now, they're on top. It's how

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<v Speaker 2>it works. It shouldn't be that way, but it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But also they make you pay when you make mistakes,

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<v Speaker 2>right like they will, and you know what you when

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing them and you commit a crazy pass interference call,

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<v Speaker 2>like you mess up on defense, you know why, It's

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<v Speaker 2>probably because you're overthinking it. You're backpedaling on defense and

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<v Speaker 2>you probably thinking, Man, I don't know, like do I

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<v Speaker 2>trust myself to be able to defend this without holding,

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<v Speaker 2>without interfering? And sometimes they don't because they know they're

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<v Speaker 2>going up against the goud that'll crush them. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>chalk that up to the human element too. People make

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<v Speaker 2>more mistakes against Kansas City because of how good they

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<v Speaker 2>are in Kansas City. Also, because of how good they are,

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<v Speaker 2>they will make you pay for said mistakes more so

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<v Speaker 2>than probably any team. Like I remember the best example

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<v Speaker 2>of this was when the Bengals lost to the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 2>at Kansas City and everybody was complaining and bitching about

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<v Speaker 2>Mahomes getting all the calls and how you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just can you believe it bailed out again? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>the Reps didn't bail them out, the Bengals did. The

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<v Speaker 2>dude blatantly tackled the receiver like it was not even

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<v Speaker 2>a It wasn't even a questionable call at all. It

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<v Speaker 2>was blatant. And I just remember, like everybody's claiming Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>gets the whistle that other guys don't. Anybody would have

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<v Speaker 2>got that, and you know why, because the Bengals aren't

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs. They don't prevent those takes from happening. And

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<v Speaker 2>they realize, all we got to do is get a

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<v Speaker 2>stop and the game's over. Therefore, man, let let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>just make sure. And you get you get greedy, you

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<v Speaker 2>start to probably question in a millisecond, you question if

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be able to effectively defend the play without

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<v Speaker 2>doing that. And that's actually one of the fascinating things

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<v Speaker 2>about being I think a defensive back specifically is that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like you've got to trust yourself, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you'll trust yourself and and you'll get you'll get humbled,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll get you know, you'll get exposed, you'll get lost,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, sometimes you'll you'll not trust yourself and

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<v Speaker 2>commit a penalty that you didn't need to you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>need to make. So like that's a huge element, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think being really good at that position is happening,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, being able to stay even keel and not

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<v Speaker 2>be up to up to down. But also there's guys

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<v Speaker 2>who won't commit a penalty knowing, hey, I had to

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<v Speaker 2>because he was gonna score. If I didn't, he was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna he had me beat. So while I hate the

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs as much as anybody else, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the because I think it's now turned into where

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<v Speaker 2>especially if that textans game last weekend. Like one of

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest talking points in the NFL playoffs right now

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<v Speaker 2>is in fact Mahomes getting all the way, Mahomes specifically

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<v Speaker 2>being officiated different than any other quarterback. So I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't believe it's as rare as people think.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, it's coffee and company. We are field about

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<v Speaker 2>Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciates you hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out with us, as you could expect. We've talked a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of college basketball today, and I have a complaint

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<v Speaker 2>about this Louisville basketball team. And my complaint is that

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<v Speaker 2>we have to wait as long as we do to

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<v Speaker 2>watch them play again. It's not their fault, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule. But they've got a week off and that

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<v Speaker 2>means we don't see him again until Tuesday night against

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<v Speaker 2>Wake Forest. But when you go looking for college basketball content,

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<v Speaker 2>rather it be those who cover the sport or bracketology

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<v Speaker 2>stuff whatever, Like Louisville's now getting mentioned not as a

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<v Speaker 2>team that could win at all, but they're getting mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>as a team that won. Is one of the hottest

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<v Speaker 2>teams in the country right now, and they look safely

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<v Speaker 2>in the tournament. And man, the best opponents that were

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<v Speaker 2>on this schedule this year have are out of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't mean you're guaranteed to not slip up, But as

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<v Speaker 2>I've said many times, the way they're playing and the

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<v Speaker 2>way the schedule sets up, I'd be a liar if

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<v Speaker 2>I told you that I expect them to slip up

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<v Speaker 2>and lose to one of these teams, because again, if

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<v Speaker 2>you have with what you've been able to do at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, you'd have to really be off to lose

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<v Speaker 2>to who's left on your schedule, right like you could

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<v Speaker 2>have easily lost to Pitt if it wasn't for rain

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<v Speaker 2>Smith going off at the end of the game. The

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina game was closed till the end, so you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>blown out everybody. But all those teams I mentioned aren't

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<v Speaker 2>nearly as good as the other teams you have left,

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<v Speaker 2>like Wake, Georgia Tech, Boston College, Miami. Those are your

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<v Speaker 2>next four games. Wake I think actually is better than

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<v Speaker 2>people realize. But with what Louis's done, you got him

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<v Speaker 2>at home on Tuesday, that's a win you should get.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break will come back on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep this thing rolling along. It's coffee and Company fuel

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<v Speaker 2>about Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that Pat Kelsey did discuss in his twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five plus minute interview with John Fans on the Field

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<v Speaker 2>of sixty eight. We played a chunk of that earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>with him talking about really all his players, who of

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<v Speaker 2>course have played well and big reason why this team

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<v Speaker 2>is on a nine game winning streak. But one guy

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<v Speaker 2>that has not played in the last couple of games,

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<v Speaker 2>Noah Waterman. He had surgery on his thumb in December

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<v Speaker 2>and has since been playing with some little rods I

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<v Speaker 2>guess in his thumb, and I guess I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I don't think he injured himself further, but they

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<v Speaker 2>did decide to let him rest, and I guess try

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<v Speaker 2>to from an understanding, there was some swelling going on

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<v Speaker 2>after he played to where he really wasn't further injuring himself,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe just you know, he never took a game

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<v Speaker 2>off like he never he never missed a game until

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<v Speaker 2>recently after having that thumb injury. And you know that

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<v Speaker 2>explains why he just hasn't even looked comfortable at times

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<v Speaker 2>he's set the last couple of games, and it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like he may be back in action against wake Forest

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday, which they haven't needed him in the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of games. And you know that, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's okay, but he's he's somebody that I will

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<v Speaker 2>admit the last two games, specifically really against SMU, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that gives more minutes to CANi Ruth's which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>all in on him getting as many minutes as possible

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<v Speaker 2>because you can see the more opportunities he gets. Not

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<v Speaker 2>only is he getting better to be to be a

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<v Speaker 2>contributor for you right now, but you just can see

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<v Speaker 2>this guy. One he's going to get better with the

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<v Speaker 2>more reps, but also he's got a bright future and

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<v Speaker 2>really talented player. I mean, it's easy to forget that

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<v Speaker 2>he is one of the highest rated recruits to ever

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<v Speaker 2>commit to Louisville. He's not top like five, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's within the top ten, which is crazy but true.

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<v Speaker 2>And at times he will make a play and you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh yeah, this group is built with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of veterans, mostly who never played at a high

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<v Speaker 2>This guy, although young, a lot younger than his teammates,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's got some some gifts when it comes to

416
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<v Speaker 2>athleticism and talent that not many have. But with Waterman

417
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<v Speaker 2>loved Noah and I think I think he's I think

418
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<v Speaker 2>he's taken. I mean, I think it speaks a lot

419
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<v Speaker 2>to his maturity to know that. Like when fans would

420
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<v Speaker 2>decide to get upset about Louble basketball and they wanted

421
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<v Speaker 2>to take it out on a player, who would they

422
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<v Speaker 2>take it out on Noah Waterman, no question about it.

423
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<v Speaker 2>And I never really understood why him more so than

424
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<v Speaker 2>others other than you know, he didn't play well and

425
00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:23.160
<v Speaker 2>he would miss a lot of shots, but that was like,

426
00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:25.200
<v Speaker 2>that's what he was out there to do. But you know,

427
00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:27.680
<v Speaker 2>he took the beating from fans at times. I don't

428
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<v Speaker 2>want to act like it was crazy, but clearly, you know,

429
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<v Speaker 2>not the only one who noticed that. He was the

430
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<v Speaker 2>guy that people just if they were going to pick

431
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<v Speaker 2>on a player, really criticize a player or be him.

432
00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:38.160
<v Speaker 2>But he was playing with a broken thumb and never

433
00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:40.279
<v Speaker 2>thought the need to tell anybody. They wanted to keep

434
00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:43.880
<v Speaker 2>it private for some reason. So you know, maybe when

435
00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:47.200
<v Speaker 2>he's healthy, he's somebody that you know can can really

436
00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:49.200
<v Speaker 2>can really help you in knock down shots. I mean,

437
00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:51.920
<v Speaker 2>he's a guy who averaged double figures for Mark Pope

438
00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:54.319
<v Speaker 2>last year at BYU and he and he really just

439
00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:56.759
<v Speaker 2>hasn't gotten one. He's had to play a different role

440
00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:58.599
<v Speaker 2>here than he probably was expected to play because of

441
00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:01.880
<v Speaker 2>some injuries that have happened, and he's been injured himself

442
00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:05.160
<v Speaker 2>and still played. So I think he can help you,

443
00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:06.839
<v Speaker 2>but I kind of feel like if it's a game

444
00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:09.279
<v Speaker 2>where he's just not feeling it and he's not making shots,

445
00:21:09.640 --> 00:21:12.599
<v Speaker 2>maybe he doesn't get as much run as he typically has. Now, again,

446
00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:14.200
<v Speaker 2>he's still been a guy that comes off the bench

447
00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:18.680
<v Speaker 2>and his minutes have been pretty much consistent. But I

448
00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.559
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I think there's some value in having a

449
00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:27.640
<v Speaker 2>short rotation. When you have that short rotation, everybody bringing

450
00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:30.680
<v Speaker 2>something to the table that is valuable, right, Like, every

451
00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:33.200
<v Speaker 2>single guy that is playing big minutes on this team

452
00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:39.559
<v Speaker 2>is putting up numbers. Their production is not just you know, decent,

453
00:21:39.640 --> 00:21:42.519
<v Speaker 2>like it's solid or really good. I would say Trey

454
00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:44.359
<v Speaker 2>ol Ray, but he's never going to be a guy

455
00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:46.480
<v Speaker 2>that like stuffs the statue. Yet when he came back,

456
00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>he actually led you in scoring on the road a Virginia.

457
00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:51.079
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think he's gonna lead you in scoring

458
00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:53.559
<v Speaker 2>many times this year. But still he's making his impact

459
00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:57.640
<v Speaker 2>elsewhere everybody else. I mean, Hadley is in the top four.

460
00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Hadley's third in the ACC and double doubles behind the

461
00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:05.880
<v Speaker 2>big fellow from Stanford and Cooper Flag I believe. So

462
00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:09.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's not just some dude who's who's solid,

463
00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:11.279
<v Speaker 2>that's a good player that is producing like I mean,

464
00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:13.319
<v Speaker 2>it's a guy that other teams probably watch and or

465
00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:15.039
<v Speaker 2>other fans probably watch and think like, yeah, wish we

466
00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:17.680
<v Speaker 2>had somebody like that. I mean, Rayan Smith is a

467
00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:20.480
<v Speaker 2>specialist from three point range like we've never had before.

468
00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Quite literally, he broke a record that a lot of

469
00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:24.880
<v Speaker 2>people probably thought would never be broken ten threes in

470
00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:27.200
<v Speaker 2>a game Chucky's one of the best players in the country.

471
00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Is certainly one of the best point guards in the country.

472
00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:33.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean James Scott. I mean, the numbers aren't crazy,

473
00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:35.400
<v Speaker 2>but when he does take shots, he rarely misses. He's

474
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<v Speaker 2>le He leads the country in field goal percentage if

475
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<v Speaker 2>you don't factor in the minimum requirement, which I think

476
00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:44.960
<v Speaker 2>is silly because the requirement, whatever it is, needs to

477
00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.359
<v Speaker 2>be adjusted for the NCAA stats. Because James Scott shoots

478
00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:51.559
<v Speaker 2>at least seven eight times a game and he is

479
00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:53.720
<v Speaker 2>averaging more than twenty minutes a game for him to

480
00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:55.680
<v Speaker 2>not count, I mean, that's a flawed way of looking

481
00:22:55.720 --> 00:22:58.160
<v Speaker 2>at it, because it'd be different if he played one

482
00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:00.799
<v Speaker 2>minute a game and it's only ten taking four shots

483
00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:03.400
<v Speaker 2>on the season. That's not the case. So again, these

484
00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:05.400
<v Speaker 2>aren't just guys that are getting it done, like they're

485
00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:08.759
<v Speaker 2>doing something that is a component to why this team

486
00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:11.880
<v Speaker 2>has been so good as of late. I mean, he

487
00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:14.400
<v Speaker 2>also is. I mean, let me see where he is

488
00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:18.240
<v Speaker 2>right now, because he had a few dunks against against

489
00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:21.240
<v Speaker 2>SMU and I love that Bart Torovick's formula tracks this,

490
00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:26.920
<v Speaker 2>but the leaders in college basketball for dunks. Let's see

491
00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:28.799
<v Speaker 2>the only issue I have with Bart Torovik. For some reason,

492
00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:31.359
<v Speaker 2>his website still defaults to twenty twenty four and shows

493
00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:33.079
<v Speaker 2>you last year's stats. But if you click twenty twenty

494
00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:34.839
<v Speaker 2>five at the top, it'll take you there. So right now,

495
00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:44.440
<v Speaker 2>let's see, right now, where's he at? Why has it

496
00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:50.119
<v Speaker 2>not shown me? James Scott? Is this twenty there? We go? Anyways?

497
00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I can't get it to pull up right now?

498
00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Is here?

499
00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I am bragging on this formula that is not even

500
00:23:54.160 --> 00:23:57.599
<v Speaker 2>it's not even working. But he was top five in

501
00:23:57.640 --> 00:23:59.480
<v Speaker 2>the country, or I'm sorry, he was top six in

502
00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:02.640
<v Speaker 2>the country in dunk's total and dunks per game, and

503
00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:04.960
<v Speaker 2>he was number one in the ACC. Dunks just count

504
00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:08.400
<v Speaker 2>as two points. But man, that's easy. As as easy

505
00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:10.400
<v Speaker 2>of a bucket as you'll get. You can miss them,

506
00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:12.799
<v Speaker 2>of course we've seen that happen. But if you're able

507
00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:15.319
<v Speaker 2>to put yourself in a position where you are six

508
00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.720
<v Speaker 2>' eleven and your head is above the rim, and

509
00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:21.359
<v Speaker 2>your teammates know to you know, find you there, that's

510
00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:25.279
<v Speaker 2>a pretty effective way to score some points. So again,

511
00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:28.480
<v Speaker 2>this team's good man, And who knows, maybe a healthy,

512
00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:33.880
<v Speaker 2>a really healthy uh return with Noah Water and maybe

513
00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:36.200
<v Speaker 2>he could start being a you know, three point specialist,

514
00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:39.680
<v Speaker 2>because look, he's made shots. You've seen games where, in fact,

515
00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:42.039
<v Speaker 2>he's made threes throughout the year. I can think of some,

516
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.799
<v Speaker 2>but the game where he really got hot and it

517
00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:47.720
<v Speaker 2>felt like, all right, this guy, you know, keep feeding

518
00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:49.640
<v Speaker 2>him and let him fire it up. There's only maybe

519
00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:51.079
<v Speaker 2>he's done it more than once. But the game that

520
00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:54.960
<v Speaker 2>comes to mind for me is the uh is the

521
00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Indiana game in the first half when everybody was clicking.

522
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:01.640
<v Speaker 2>All right, So we talk about Kentucky earlier, just because

523
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:04.480
<v Speaker 2>they you know, right now they are. I think probably

524
00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:08.079
<v Speaker 2>if the tournament started its day, I would say they're

525
00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:10.720
<v Speaker 2>they're a three seed. Wouldn't be shocked if somebody had

526
00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:15.440
<v Speaker 2>them at a two, but probably a three, and then

527
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:19.039
<v Speaker 2>the projected most likely seed for them when you factor

528
00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:22.200
<v Speaker 2>in who they play the rest of the way, they

529
00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:25.640
<v Speaker 2>have a eighteen point nine percent chance of maintaining a

530
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 2>three seed, but an eighteen point two percent chance of

531
00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:32.559
<v Speaker 2>dropping to a four seed. So I would say if

532
00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:35.519
<v Speaker 2>that happens, three or four, if you end up as

533
00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:38.680
<v Speaker 2>a three or four seed, I would say that that

534
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:42.279
<v Speaker 2>means Kentucky finished really strong, because that would mean that

535
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:44.319
<v Speaker 2>they're not you know, they're probably losing a game or

536
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:45.960
<v Speaker 2>two to one of the really good teams in the

537
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:48.400
<v Speaker 2>se seed where it's really not going to count as

538
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:51.160
<v Speaker 2>a bad loss, kind of like the Alabama game, and

539
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:53.079
<v Speaker 2>they're beating the teams that you know they're supposed to

540
00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:55.039
<v Speaker 2>beat that aren't terrible. But you know, when you play

541
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.759
<v Speaker 2>a bottom tier team from a league that's as loaded

542
00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>as the SEC is, like, you need to win those

543
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:01.759
<v Speaker 2>in a big way, like those, in a weird way

544
00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:07.599
<v Speaker 2>are the most important games, because doesn't mean again Kentucky

545
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:12.680
<v Speaker 2>loses to Georgia then beats A and M and in

546
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Mississippi State, who was on the road, So you know,

547
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:17.839
<v Speaker 2>you did slip up and lose to a team you

548
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:19.640
<v Speaker 2>probably shouldn't have lost to, and that loss doesn't look

549
00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:21.079
<v Speaker 2>as good now as it did when it happened because

550
00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:24.920
<v Speaker 2>George is struggling. However, you made up for it by

551
00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:28.559
<v Speaker 2>going and beating those two teams. So you know, if

552
00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:32.519
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky didn't win against Mississippi State where they were underdogs,

553
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:35.440
<v Speaker 2>you know they probably would be more so at a

554
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:38.480
<v Speaker 2>four right now, so you know they're this team has

555
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:40.000
<v Speaker 2>been pretty easy to figure out, and I don't mean

556
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>like they're easy to beat. But with Kentucky, you know

557
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:44.960
<v Speaker 2>they can beat anybody, especially when they get the game

558
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:47.559
<v Speaker 2>played at their pace. The first time they lost a

559
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:49.519
<v Speaker 2>game where it was played the way they wanted to

560
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.559
<v Speaker 2>play was on Saturday against Alabama, and look, you lost.

561
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:54.559
<v Speaker 2>It sucks, it counts against you, but it's not a

562
00:26:54.599 --> 00:26:56.799
<v Speaker 2>bad loss, and it shouldn't and I don't believe it

563
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:58.559
<v Speaker 2>has made any Kentucky fan feel like they're not a

564
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>legitimate team that can win the national championship. So if

565
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:05.039
<v Speaker 2>they just maintain really what they're doing, they're gonna be fine.

566
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:07.599
<v Speaker 2>But you have to think, you know, this bandy game

567
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.119
<v Speaker 2>they've got on Saturday, that is really crucial because again,

568
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:14.559
<v Speaker 2>after you play Vandy, you know there's some other teams

569
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.440
<v Speaker 2>on your schedule, Tennessee, you got to go to Alabama,

570
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:19.960
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna play Auburn, and you may win those games

571
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:22.039
<v Speaker 2>because you know why, you're good. Kentucky's that good to

572
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 2>where if they win those games, we can't say that

573
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:26.119
<v Speaker 2>we're shocked, but they're gonna be a lot harder to

574
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:31.480
<v Speaker 2>win than teams like Vandy and teams like Arkansas, who,

575
00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:36.279
<v Speaker 2>by the way, is three games away. I'm sorry for yeah,

576
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:43.119
<v Speaker 2>they've got Bandy on Saturday, and then they'll play against Tennessee.

577
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize they're at Tennessee on Tuesday at Knoxville

578
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 2>and then Saturday a week from this, I mean yeah,

579
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.720
<v Speaker 2>week from week from Saturday, they're gonna be playing Arkansas

580
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:55.240
<v Speaker 2>at home and a game that they should win. The

581
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Ken Pomp projected scorer is eighty five to seventy five.

582
00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:01.160
<v Speaker 2>But I think something good happened for Kentucky last night,

583
00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>and that was Cal winning his first SEC game. Because

584
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I've kind of found myself like giving like legitimate good

585
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.640
<v Speaker 2>advice to Kentucky fans, which is weird, and they probably

586
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:16.400
<v Speaker 2>don't want any advice for me and they'll tell me

587
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 2>to shove it. But well, because you care about the

588
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky Yeah of course, yeah, big Blue, go big Blue.

589
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 2>So this game is quite literally only for like pettiness,

590
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>like personal pride, right, Like that's that's all this is

591
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:35.519
<v Speaker 2>for now. Again, if there is value, it's because of

592
00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 2>what I just explained. Arkansas just won their first league

593
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>game last night, so they're gonna finish probably towards the

594
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.759
<v Speaker 2>bottom of the SEC. And a loss won't kill you

595
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:48.240
<v Speaker 2>if you're Kentucky. But like you know, you got to expect, hey,

596
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.480
<v Speaker 2>if we if you lose to a Vandy or to

597
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 2>an Arkansas or somehow maybe you lose to both, clearly

598
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>an unlikely thing. That makes it to where now you

599
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:58.039
<v Speaker 2>do have a little bit more of a need to

600
00:28:58.079 --> 00:28:59.599
<v Speaker 2>go beat the other teams that are going to be

601
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:01.160
<v Speaker 2>a lot of hard to be than you know, Vandy

602
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>in Arkansas. But this is just like I've been fascinated

603
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.319
<v Speaker 2>to hear how it comes up on KSR. And I

604
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>think it was either yesterday or today I heard him

605
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:10.480
<v Speaker 2>talking about a little bit. I guess it was today

606
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:12.799
<v Speaker 2>because they were talking about Arkansas winning last night and

607
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Cal getting his first SEC win. But I mean, at

608
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.480
<v Speaker 2>least they're acknowledging like we can't lose that game. And

609
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:26.079
<v Speaker 2>I I mean Matt has been very direct. And with Matt,

610
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 2>I think everybody knows this who listens to KSR A

611
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:30.759
<v Speaker 2>little bit like there was a real personal thing between.

612
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it wasn't like nothing, it was nothing crazy.

613
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 2>But obviously Cal Perry was blaming Matt Jones for just

614
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:41.119
<v Speaker 2>acknowledging that the program had slipped in a major way

615
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.160
<v Speaker 2>and Cal had become you know, a shell of himself

616
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>and really just was was I mean, it was falling apart,

617
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>not too like an insane level, but for Kentucky, like

618
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>the scenario where cal bounced back and started thriving and

619
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Lexington just didn't seem likely. So you know, he felt

620
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:00.599
<v Speaker 2>like that that was unfair and that like everybody was

621
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:03.000
<v Speaker 2>saying that because they were just listening to Matt. I

622
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:04.880
<v Speaker 2>think anybody, there are people who don't like Matt, they

623
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.960
<v Speaker 2>probably you know, thought the same thing. So I'm sure

624
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<v Speaker 2>for Matt, as you know, big Blue Jesus as I

625
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:14.839
<v Speaker 2>call him the leader of BBN, at least to an extent,

626
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, he would he would just I mean, it

627
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:20.720
<v Speaker 2>would be a loss that just pains you. You would

628
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<v Speaker 2>know that your team's still really good. You would know

629
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<v Speaker 2>that you can still go in a national championship potentially

630
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<v Speaker 2>or make a final four for certain if you know

631
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:29.359
<v Speaker 2>things go your way. But like this, this is what

632
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:35.759
<v Speaker 2>makes sports, I think so special. And you know, whenever

633
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:40.039
<v Speaker 2>a result happens that makes you just so upset and

634
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>it just stews and you you are, you know, just

635
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:46.640
<v Speaker 2>it could ruined your weekend, ruined your day, whatever it

636
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:49.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe when that happens and it's a bad thing. You're like,

637
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:50.720
<v Speaker 2>why am I like this? What is wrong with me?

638
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:53.440
<v Speaker 2>This kid? This shouldn't impact me, This should not impact

639
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:59.599
<v Speaker 2>my happiness. But you care that much. So whenever it

640
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.559
<v Speaker 2>a result that like, like, for example, when Louisville beat

641
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky and football this year, do you think that did

642
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:07.359
<v Speaker 2>anything for Louisville?

643
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>No?

644
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Kentucky was as bad as they've been in

645
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.279
<v Speaker 2>a long time. Louisville didn't get any new, Like Louisville

646
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 2>had nothing to gain other than a win on the

647
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.720
<v Speaker 2>resume or a win on the win column and finish

648
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.559
<v Speaker 2>eight and four rather than seven and five. And even

649
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky would have had nothing to gain there because they

650
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:27.960
<v Speaker 2>would have made it would have taken them from being

651
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.839
<v Speaker 2>a three and nine team to a four and eight

652
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 2>team that you know still went one in seven in

653
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:38.359
<v Speaker 2>in the SEC. So it's all about like rivalry, pride,

654
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:40.480
<v Speaker 2>like fans like just just you know, wanting to be

655
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.920
<v Speaker 2>able to claim your program didn't lose to the rival.

656
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>And when you beat your rival, it feels better than

657
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.039
<v Speaker 2>beating anybody, And when you lose to them, it hurts

658
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.599
<v Speaker 2>worse than it does lose in to anybody. In most instances.

659
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:52.319
<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of what's shaped up here. Arkansas they

660
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:54.039
<v Speaker 2>might win it, but they're not going on the tournament.

661
00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky could lose it. They're still gonna be really good.

662
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:01.240
<v Speaker 2>They've proven that, but whichever side, and I think it's

663
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 2>way more Kentucky. And that's what kind of makes Cal.

664
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:05.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say dangerous, because I've watched Arkansas

665
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:07.680
<v Speaker 2>enough this year and they're just a mess. Like he's

666
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:09.680
<v Speaker 2>not a good basketball coach when it comes to like

667
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 2>execution and strategy. I mean, he's just not. And I've

668
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:16.599
<v Speaker 2>always kind of defended him a little bit when it

669
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:18.279
<v Speaker 2>comes to that because of his success. But there was

670
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:20.640
<v Speaker 2>actually some quotes from an article I want to reference

671
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.559
<v Speaker 2>here on the other side with anonymous SEC coaches kind

672
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:25.880
<v Speaker 2>of talking about Cal, and I'm like, they're absolutely right.

673
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:30.119
<v Speaker 2>So anyways, Cal wants to be Kentucky bad. He won't

674
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:35.039
<v Speaker 2>say it. He'll probably you know, he'll probably be really

675
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.599
<v Speaker 2>passive and like friendly. I would imagine, like week of game,

676
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 2>especially considering that his team's so bad, he'll act like

677
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>he still loves BBN and that he's happy for him,

678
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.759
<v Speaker 2>and you know that's probably what he'll do. But you

679
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 2>know he deep down wants to beat them as bad

680
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 2>as Kentucky fans want to beat Arkansas and Cal Perry.

681
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:57.680
<v Speaker 2>What I don't know is Arkansas fans clearly want to win.

682
00:32:57.920 --> 00:32:59.440
<v Speaker 2>They want to be able to say, yeah, we took

683
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:01.559
<v Speaker 2>your coach and we're struggling, but look he still beat you.

684
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>But there's not a level of like, we can't lose

685
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>this one. That level is a lot higher on the

686
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky side than it is Arkansas, would imagine. So I

687
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 2>get why Kentucky fans are a little lncy about it

688
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:18.039
<v Speaker 2>just because Cal he's not losing because he has no players,

689
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:20.559
<v Speaker 2>although he did lose Boogie Boogie flanned and that was

690
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.119
<v Speaker 2>a big hit for him. But yet they won their

691
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:26.920
<v Speaker 2>first game without him on last night against against Georgia.

692
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.240
<v Speaker 2>So next Saturday, that'll be that'll be a tough ticket

693
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>to get and I kind of feel like it's sneaking

694
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>up on us. It'll be a talking point throughout the

695
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.960
<v Speaker 2>week from those that you know, cover and consume college basketball.

696
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.799
<v Speaker 2>But man, like, if if Arkansas wasn't so crappy, it

697
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:44.759
<v Speaker 2>would be I mean, it would be something people were

698
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:46.759
<v Speaker 2>building up for weeks. I would imagine, you know, in

699
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.240
<v Speaker 2>the college basketball world. Right quick break, We'll come back

700
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.400
<v Speaker 2>on the other side, but the finishing touches on a

701
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Thursday edition of Coffee and Company. Stick around right here

702
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety.

703
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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

704
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705
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<v Speaker 2>So, Indiana loss last night, which of course puts Louisville

706
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.599
<v Speaker 2>in a tough spot because that could be a quad

707
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:16.639
<v Speaker 2>one win if Indiana stays inside the top fifty of

708
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:19.639
<v Speaker 2>the net. But that last night's one of those nights

709
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 2>where it looks like that'll be unlikely because when you

710
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.760
<v Speaker 2>lose to Northwestern, I mean, that's not one of the

711
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:26.199
<v Speaker 2>better teams in your league. So expecting them to then

712
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:30.559
<v Speaker 2>go on and beat teams like Maryland and Purdue in

713
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin and Michigan and Michigan State and UCLA, which is

714
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 2>their next six games, I mean, they might win some

715
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:40.119
<v Speaker 2>of them because you know they've got talent, but man,

716
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:45.679
<v Speaker 2>that's really the first loss for them that really feels like, actually,

717
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 2>never mind, I lied because they got beat by twenty

718
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 2>five by Iowa, who's also not very good. So the

719
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.199
<v Speaker 2>current projected record for Indiana at the end of the

720
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:55.559
<v Speaker 2>year will be eighteen and thirteen, nine and eleven in

721
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>conference play, not a tournament team, of course, if that

722
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.400
<v Speaker 2>plays out that way, and not a qui one win

723
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:03.239
<v Speaker 2>for Louisville, but probably the last season for Mike Woodson,

724
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine. I mean, I'm not connected in any

725
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 2>way or hearing anything, but Indiana kind of felt mean

726
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:12.960
<v Speaker 2>this year. What Indiana did is they they you know,

727
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:14.800
<v Speaker 2>they had enough money, and I guess that means fans

728
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>raised enough money. There was enough money for Mike Woodson

729
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:19.599
<v Speaker 2>to go build a really good roster with nil and

730
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:21.880
<v Speaker 2>the portal, and he did exactly that, and the team

731
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>is way worse than they should be. And this is

732
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.119
<v Speaker 2>confirmation that if you really felt like Mike Woodson wasn't

733
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.559
<v Speaker 2>the guy, those feelings seemed to be confirmed as of

734
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>right now, and I don't see it changing. But it's

735
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.000
<v Speaker 2>a wild stat that, you know, just a random piece

736
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>of information that surprises me. Woodson has now lost five

737
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:45.960
<v Speaker 2>consecutive games to Northwestern. He's never beat him. In fact,

738
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.400
<v Speaker 2>he's zero to five. The last time IU lost five

739
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:50.559
<v Speaker 2>games in a row to Northwestern was in nineteen thirteen,

740
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:52.760
<v Speaker 2>so one hundred and ten years ago. They lost five

741
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:56.840
<v Speaker 2>games between nineteen thirteen and nineteen fifteen. So again one

742
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:58.320
<v Speaker 2>of the many things you can throw out there that'll

743
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:02.760
<v Speaker 2>tell you that Mike Woodson, you know, he's not much.

744
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, in fact, he's less. He's a little more successful,

745
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 2>a little more successful than Archie I think, but he's

746
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:15.119
<v Speaker 2>actually doing that with way better players, I feel like

747
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:18.719
<v Speaker 2>than Archie Archie had. So yeah, who Indiana would go after,

748
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:21.159
<v Speaker 2>have no clue what I would love, though. Let's say

749
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Chris Mack ends up rolling at Charleston and he's going

750
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:26.119
<v Speaker 2>to continue. I mean, he's got to begin to night,

751
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>by the way. But let's say they keep rolling in

752
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:30.440
<v Speaker 2>their league and they get in as a thirteen seat

753
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:32.679
<v Speaker 2>for winning their conference, and he gets to the sweet sixteen,

754
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:34.639
<v Speaker 2>which of course would be tough to do, but then

755
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:36.400
<v Speaker 2>he'd be, of course in line for a big job.

756
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 2>And I think he could get another job that's not

757
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Indiana if he wanted to after this year. If he wants,

758
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:43.800
<v Speaker 2>I doubt he'll leave Charleston after just one season, especially

759
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:46.360
<v Speaker 2>considering his girls are playing volleyball there now. But imagine

760
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Indiana wanting wanting Chris Mack. And I mean, first of all,

761
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:53.239
<v Speaker 2>that'd be awesome for him, and I would love it,

762
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 2>but uh, you know, like Rick Bose, that should be

763
00:36:56.679 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 2>the guy introducing Chris Mack at at Ssembly Hall whenever

764
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:03.519
<v Speaker 2>they would make that announcement, just because it'd be so

765
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 2>rich knowing that Rick of course, you know, he hates

766
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Mac for reasons I will never know, and really was

767
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>the only guy that I can think of that as

768
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:14.360
<v Speaker 2>far as coverage in the media, you know, other people

769
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.599
<v Speaker 2>would say it, you know, calling into shows like this.

770
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>It was rare, but you'd hear people and you'd see

771
00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 2>it online claiming that that I mean just a lie.

772
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:22.440
<v Speaker 2>They would lie to themselves and then just want to

773
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:24.679
<v Speaker 2>believe it that Kenny Payne was as bad as he

774
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:27.480
<v Speaker 2>was because of Chris Mack, which is just asinine. But

775
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:29.840
<v Speaker 2>like Bosach is the only one that really used his platform,

776
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:31.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, which is a big one WDRB to kind

777
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.480
<v Speaker 2>of you know, not flat out say that, but certainly

778
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:38.800
<v Speaker 2>insinuate it. And I'm enjoying Bosage's coverage much more these

779
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:41.000
<v Speaker 2>days than when he would, you know, be the only

780
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:43.079
<v Speaker 2>guy out there trying to tell us that like things

781
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.440
<v Speaker 2>weren't the way they were. But anyways, Woodson probably probably

782
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.639
<v Speaker 2>going to be probably going to be out all right,

783
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:54.599
<v Speaker 2>So the the college football Championship Game had lackluster numbers

784
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:56.559
<v Speaker 2>for the first time in a while. I mean, it

785
00:37:56.559 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 2>wasn't bad, but it didn't exceed what they've done previously,

786
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.280
<v Speaker 2>and everybody could kind of tell it. There just wasn't

787
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the same level of excitement. And Ben Axelrod for awful

788
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Announcing dot Com put together a column that I thought

789
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.760
<v Speaker 2>was pretty interesting and he highlighted four things that he

790
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 2>believes were explanations, and this makes sense, football fatigue. We're

791
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:17.639
<v Speaker 2>just not used to college football lasting as long as

792
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:20.719
<v Speaker 2>it did this year, and that's not changing, and maybe

793
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:22.159
<v Speaker 2>we'll get used to it to where the fatigue won't

794
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:23.960
<v Speaker 2>be there. But it just felt weird that we still

795
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:27.519
<v Speaker 2>had college football going on up until Monday and had

796
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 2>to remind ourselves, oh yeah, we haven't crowned the national

797
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:33.960
<v Speaker 2>champion yet, so that's a factor. Also, this is a

798
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:37.519
<v Speaker 2>really obvious thing that my dumbass just didn't really consider.

799
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 2>But it's true. You had two widely hated Midwestern teams

800
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:47.400
<v Speaker 2>that made it to where there really wasn't much of

801
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:50.239
<v Speaker 2>like even if you were wanting Notre Dame to win,

802
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 2>because they were the underdog and kind of had the

803
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 2>chip on the shoulder. It's still Notre Dame. Both of

804
00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:00.880
<v Speaker 2>these teams are very, i would say unpopular with college

805
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:04.239
<v Speaker 2>casual college football fans, right, Like, if you don't root

806
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.599
<v Speaker 2>for them and it's not your team, you probably find

807
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.519
<v Speaker 2>yourself not liking them. Therefore, what's the payoff on Monday

808
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Night for you? Right? No matter who wins, you're you're

809
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:13.760
<v Speaker 2>not gonna be happy in any way. Like you can't like,

810
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:15.519
<v Speaker 2>there are teams that I don't like in any way,

811
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:17.840
<v Speaker 2>but I hate the other team that they're playing so

812
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:19.599
<v Speaker 2>much that I'm all in on the other team that

813
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:23.719
<v Speaker 2>really wasn't there on Monday night. Also, he mentioned ESPN

814
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 2>didn't do a particularly great job marketing the game. I

815
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:28.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I wouldn't know. I really wouldn't know if

816
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:30.519
<v Speaker 2>that was true or not. But he would know better

817
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:32.599
<v Speaker 2>than I. But also he says, for the love of God,

818
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 2>move on from Monday. I'm just used to that now,

819
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>both basketball and football. But it's not a bad idea. Yeah,

820
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:43.880
<v Speaker 2>if you put it on a Saturday, it would be awesome.

821
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:46.039
<v Speaker 2>So I kind of think that would that would that

822
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 2>would that would be a good move if they would

823
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:50.920
<v Speaker 2>do it. All right, we're out a time, So thanks

824
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.199
<v Speaker 2>for hanging out, Austin. I'll miss you tomorrow. Yeah, Oh

825
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I will too, and and and we'll FaceTime. Yeah, we'll

826
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 2>be back together on Monday. Right, let's do it. No,

827
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I will. And we'll be ready for the super Bowl.

828
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:03.400
<v Speaker 2>We'll know who's in the super Bowl. We'll be getting

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<v Speaker 2>set for a big game against Wake four. So I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be here tomorrow. I know, with Austin out, nobody's gonna listen.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll be here if you want to join us,

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<v Speaker 2>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety m