1 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:14,759 Speaker 1: What is going on? 2 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: Clippers fans, Welcome to a random holiday season clips and 3 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,640 dip happy hour. 4 00:00:21,719 --> 00:00:23,199 Speaker 1: Hang I am Chuck Mockler. 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: If you're listening to this on audio and you miss this, 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,719 you can always find us at YouTube dot com slash 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,759 at Clippers podcast, like and subscribe, set and alert, and 8 00:00:33,759 --> 00:00:37,000 you can hang out during the happy hour streams. There's 9 00:00:37,039 --> 00:00:40,600 been another week of news. I guess we got the 10 00:00:40,679 --> 00:00:44,000 zoo box injury that happened. He's out for three weeks. 11 00:00:44,399 --> 00:00:48,439 The Clippers have to play one of their toughest matchups 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,880 kind of one of everybody's toughest matchups in the Rockets 13 00:00:53,759 --> 00:00:54,399 coming up. 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,039 Speaker 1: They thankfully. 15 00:00:57,439 --> 00:01:02,119 Speaker 2: We got the dub We got our seventh against the Lakers, 16 00:01:02,159 --> 00:01:05,400 so we can really we can eye this eighth win. 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,799 I don't necessarily think the Clippers are going to beat 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,560 the Rockets tomorrow. There just is a bunch of not 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,239 a bunch of stuff. There's one big thing to talk about, 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,480 and that's gonna be what Brook Lopez and Yanick are 21 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,560 gonna look like for the Clippers because Yanick is available. 22 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,719 Joey Lynn tweeted out some footage of Harden working with Yanick, 23 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,280 which is cool to see and Derek Jones Junior did 24 00:01:34,359 --> 00:01:39,159 portions of practice today, which is great. Sure the season 25 00:01:39,239 --> 00:01:42,239 is completely lost, but we can look at some positive things, right, 26 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Derek Jones Junior coming back is good. Alex Webb asking 27 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,519 if Yanick is gonna start, I do not think so. 28 00:01:54,159 --> 00:01:58,760 He has been hurt recently. I think I think Lopez 29 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:04,079 is probably starting my expectations for this game. I wonder 30 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:06,680 why you're possibly thinking, why does he seem so positive. 31 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,360 My expectations for this game are that we lose, but 32 00:02:10,439 --> 00:02:14,680 let's lose with dignity. We saw some really good stuff 33 00:02:15,719 --> 00:02:19,240 from Kawhi last game. LA Clippers film talks about this 34 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,840 a lot, but when Kawhi is grabbing boards, it shows 35 00:02:21,879 --> 00:02:26,319 he's engaged. Tylo said basically the same thing tonight or 36 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:30,080 today at practice. So Kawhi was great with the effort 37 00:02:31,199 --> 00:02:33,800 last game on the boards, and we're gonna need, obviously 38 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,639 more of that, more of the same with Zubots being out. 39 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,919 So I do not think someone in the chat is 40 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,240 saying Zubot's injury can be a blessing in disguise. I 41 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,479 do not think it is a blessing in disguise, and 42 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,439 I do not think that Brook Lopez's performances have been 43 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,560 like I think Brook Lopez was in the doghouse probably 44 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:03,120 because he's been bad, would be my take on it. 45 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,759 It's not like he played well or anything like that. 46 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:12,120 So that's really kind of my take with that. Yeah, 47 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,719 I was trying, Alex, I'm saying kind of up and 48 00:03:14,759 --> 00:03:18,159 down lately. I was trying to I feel like Houston 49 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,560 is up and down. But they just have a much 50 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,360 better roster than the Clippers do. I mean, Reed Shepherd 51 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:32,680 is going to kill us. I think he's very good. 52 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,800 They just lost a heartbreaker and ot against the Kings. 53 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,719 I think there's chances for the Clippers to play well. 54 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,159 Speaker 3: For sure. 55 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,719 Speaker 2: Lopez is starting probably I should say, we don't know 56 00:03:49,759 --> 00:03:52,120 that for sure, but it just seems like I don't 57 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:56,639 see that responsibility going to Yannick, which poses some new 58 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,240 weird stuff, right like with Lopez shooting ability, now we 59 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,120 can have Collins as the screener or something like that, 60 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,000 Right with with Lopez pulling guys out of the paint 61 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,479 for their defensive coverages because it was ranged, So like, 62 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,319 there's some interesting stuff that could happen, albeit against it's 63 00:04:16,319 --> 00:04:18,319 gonna have to happen against a really good defense. I'm 64 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,199 not trying to short change Houston at all. I said 65 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:23,800 off top, I think we lose, but let's lose with dignity. 66 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,279 I don't think we'll see any small ball verus Houston. 67 00:04:29,319 --> 00:04:32,199 I can't see that going well. Actually, I think we'll 68 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,079 see it. I just don't think it'll be overall very good. 69 00:04:39,519 --> 00:04:43,920 So yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting. Uh Yanick is 70 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,399 the backup five. Tyleru was playing Coy a little bit 71 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,680 and practice today. I think he said we'll see or 72 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,519 I'm not sure about Yanick being in the the rotation. 73 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:02,519 So it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting. And we're 74 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:08,240 in trade season right like things are going to probably happen. 75 00:05:08,319 --> 00:05:12,000 Lawrence Frank likes trades. I think there's gonna be a trade. 76 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,240 I don't know how big of a trade it's gonna be. 77 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,279 I did say if the Clippers are thinking about if 78 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:23,800 the Clippers end up trading kind of one of the 79 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,560 big three Kawhi James Hardener eats Zubots, they should just 80 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:28,920 try and. 81 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,079 Speaker 1: Get everybody out. I don't know, because that just doesn't seem. 82 00:05:33,399 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: I don't see a move or losing one of those guys, 83 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,160 makes them even closer to this five hundred goal, which 84 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,519 we know there's a goal that they want to end 85 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:47,959 up going thirty five and twenty. That was said before 86 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:50,839 the Lakers game. I mean, I guess that it was 87 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,319 something to go for until Zoo got hurt. But Zoo 88 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:56,399 being out three weeks I think makes going thirty five 89 00:05:56,439 --> 00:05:57,680 and twenty pretty difficult. 90 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: Okay, that is a sign for yan A great call. 91 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: I cannot I do not know uh Chinese, so I 92 00:06:07,639 --> 00:06:10,720 cannot say your name, uh Ray said. Rockets dominated by 93 00:06:10,759 --> 00:06:13,439 King's backup rookie center Renault. Maybe that is a sign 94 00:06:13,519 --> 00:06:18,639 for Yick the second the season is for the most 95 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:24,519 part not over, creeping towards being over. So let's find 96 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,199 some positives. I don't know if you guys. 97 00:06:27,959 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Saw the. 98 00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: What let's even play on here? We had hardened working 99 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,360 with Yanik in the pick and roll, which is pretty cool. 100 00:06:37,399 --> 00:06:40,920 Credit Joey l In for this. So it's like that's 101 00:06:40,959 --> 00:06:45,319 good to see, right, lose with dignity? How do you 102 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,519 lose with dignity? You know, run on the pick and 103 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,519 roll with the rookie center who has to play backup? 104 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,120 Chunk vv says, if we beat the Rockets, I'm all 105 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,040 the way back in. Unfortunately, what is being all the 106 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,199 way back in look like? 107 00:07:01,319 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: Though? 108 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? What does what does that 109 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,160 look like with this team? 110 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,079 Speaker 2: Is if you're all the way back in on this team, 111 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,279 does that mean you think they can get to five hundred? 112 00:07:11,319 --> 00:07:17,560 I think that's what all the way back is. Yeah, 113 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,480 I think, well, it depends on I would rather it 114 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,839 for picks. And I think realistically with with the teams 115 00:07:24,839 --> 00:07:27,879 that are looking to trade, like, I don't know what 116 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,319 youth we get. I'm not going to kill you for that. 117 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,759 I think it's annoying when people say just blow it 118 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:33,720 up or something like that. 119 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:34,319 Speaker 1: But it's like. 120 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,959 Speaker 2: My point was, if we trade hard and just get 121 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:48,160 every just ship everybody, all right, what have we gotten here? 122 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,879 But yeah, I think the issue, a big issue tomorrow specifically, 123 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:01,040 is going to be the pressure on uh Lopez and 124 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:08,199 Collins not ideal dribbling guys for the Clippers. So there's 125 00:08:08,199 --> 00:08:10,040 gonna be a bunch of pressure shootos the guys touch 126 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,279 the ball because the Rockets are gonna want them to 127 00:08:12,279 --> 00:08:15,360 put the ball on the floor. Usually bad things happen 128 00:08:15,399 --> 00:08:18,000 when that happens too often, So that's something to watch 129 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:23,639 for tomorrow. Again's focus on the positives. Kawhi keeps grabbing boards. 130 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: We like that. 131 00:08:27,279 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: Harden continues to you know, do his thing to carry 132 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,639 the team's offense. The Rockets do have a full rotation 133 00:08:34,759 --> 00:08:40,039 for tomorrow night. Per law Murray, everyone is good to go. 134 00:08:40,919 --> 00:08:44,240 So oh it's going to It's probably gonna be rough, 135 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:52,159 but I'm looking for some some positives here. Someone's asking 136 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:56,600 chalk Talk the MPJ Cam Thomas rumors. Are any of 137 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,559 those rumors that real? We talked about it on the 138 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:04,720 last live. I think I don't really see that. Feels 139 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,279 like a very not fun lateral move to me. MPJ 140 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,000 is having a great year. He's hurt all the time. 141 00:09:12,039 --> 00:09:19,639 Kim Thomas would be cool. I guess chunk VV saying 142 00:09:19,639 --> 00:09:21,919 we match up well with the Rockets. I don't know 143 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,120 that we do match up well with the Rockets. They 144 00:09:26,279 --> 00:09:29,039 are very young and play really good defense, and our 145 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,200 offense is bad. So I don't know if I necessarily 146 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,559 agree with the match up well with them. I don't 147 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,399 know if we match up well with anybody right now. 148 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, what's the spread? We're not usually a gambling pod, 149 00:09:43,759 --> 00:09:45,440 but what's the spread on this game. 150 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: All right, per some website that I have no idea 151 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,960 if it's a good one or not sportsbook Wire seven 152 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:05,559 point favorites. Okay, that's not crazy, that's a winnable game. 153 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,639 Speaker 1: Uh yeah. 154 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,799 Speaker 2: What I'm interested to see from this game other than 155 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,120 the usual you know, we need James Harden to be 156 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,559 his usual good self. We need to not turn the 157 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,399 ball over. We need Kawhitia grab boards and do all 158 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,279 of the other stuff. It's gonna take a lot. That 159 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,120 being said, hope for some good strides from Yanick. If 160 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,320 you're gonna watch this game and you want to find 161 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,720 one specific thing to focus on so maybe you're not 162 00:10:41,799 --> 00:10:45,039 as upset at the game as a whole. Let's hope 163 00:10:45,039 --> 00:10:53,159 that Yanick plays well, right, Let's focus on that ideally, 164 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,000 And let's hope that you know, Patuna looks good as 165 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,679 the other backup five because that's the other part for 166 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,840 people who wanted to see patumah five minutes. We are 167 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:12,879 there basically FARTI Cakes asking are we any closer to 168 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,320 learning of a return day for Derek Jones Jr. Having 169 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,480 one or two of Derek Jones Jr. And Done on 170 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,559 the floor are both at the same time makes Uh 171 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,279 makes them more optimistic about the defense. Lost you there 172 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,960 with some of the type posts, but I understand uh 173 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,440 not closer to knowing an exact return date For Derek 174 00:11:30,519 --> 00:11:32,519 Jones Jr. I don't think we'll ever get one of 175 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,559 those until it's like two days away. But he was 176 00:11:35,759 --> 00:11:42,240 practicing for some portions of today's practice, so I think 177 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,399 it's safe to say that he's progressing faster than people 178 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:51,200 thought he would to come back from this injury. I 179 00:11:51,279 --> 00:11:55,360 think Law said first week of January or something is 180 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:02,759 when he saw it. He thought him coming so sooner 181 00:12:02,799 --> 00:12:06,000 than expected. Uh would be the thing. But Tom has 182 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,919 been I don't know if but Tumb's been horrible this year. 183 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,159 He's looked a little old for sure, but he's still 184 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,039 shooting well from the outside and he can kind of 185 00:12:15,039 --> 00:12:15,799 make things happen. 186 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: That is who the bad the backup center is going 187 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:18,799 to be. 188 00:12:21,279 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: Regional manager Michael Scott asking, Uh, No, I saw the 189 00:12:25,159 --> 00:12:29,480 Clippers are sorry, the Rockets are seven point favorites. I 190 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:33,240 saw the Rockets as seven point favorites. Don't take any 191 00:12:33,279 --> 00:12:37,240 betting advice from this pod would be my advice. 192 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we need. 193 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: But the point from that question that I also agree with, 194 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:47,360 is Derector and Junior and Dunn on the floor at the. 195 00:12:47,279 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: Same time would be really helpful. 196 00:12:49,159 --> 00:12:51,919 Speaker 2: Adam was worried about losing some of the defensive identity 197 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:54,879 by making the initial Beal trade and the Collin stuff, 198 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,440 so I understand, Yeah, it would be nice to have 199 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,159 the defense play better with those two guys. 200 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. 201 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,879 Speaker 2: Hope everyone else has a good holidays as well. Yes, 202 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,600 it does make more sense if the Clippers were seven 203 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,120 point favorites. Some horrible injury news was about to break 204 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:19,679 if that would have been the case. But yeah, I 205 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:25,000 think at this point, uh oh, Adam Oslin. 206 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,919 Speaker 3: Hell, hey, hey, what's going on? 207 00:13:29,039 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: Just I was talking about fun things to maybe focus 208 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:37,519 on during tomorrow's game to take away from being disappointed 209 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:39,480 of what the actual result might be. 210 00:13:40,279 --> 00:13:42,759 Speaker 1: And I was saying, it's good that we get to 211 00:13:42,759 --> 00:13:43,519 see Yonick time. 212 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am dangerously high on Yonick, which does sound 213 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:53,480 like a type of drug. And I know he's on 214 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,039 the older side for a rookie, but in basketball years, 215 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,960 having actual experience of playing the game, you still relative 216 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,559 relatively young, and something I talked about a little bit 217 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:06,440 last night. But people were lamenting the fact that Clippers 218 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,399 didn't go out and get cock Renner, who's more of 219 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,840 a finished product or a guy who can really help 220 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,600 you now. And we're seeing that with Charlotte, even though 221 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,600 they're not winning games either. Yannick does have the higher ceiling. 222 00:14:19,879 --> 00:14:21,960 They took a swing at the guy with a much 223 00:14:22,039 --> 00:14:26,799 higher ceiling. So what we've seen so far in Summer League, 224 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:32,919 to me, was really encouraging because while he is on 225 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:37,279 the youthful side when it comes to basketball experience, he's 226 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:42,039 shown off like some innate ability out there with his 227 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:47,559 instincts and his handle. His handle is shockingly good for 228 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,919 a big man. The play against the Lakers where he 229 00:14:49,919 --> 00:14:53,120 took it from half court and yammed on somebody. I 230 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,200 forget who was out there. It was G leaguer, so 231 00:14:56,799 --> 00:14:58,799 not even the guys in the league maybe right now, 232 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,440 but it was special, Like you can't teach that type 233 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,639 of stuff, Like it's really unique to have some of 234 00:15:06,679 --> 00:15:09,240 the skills set he already does while he's still growing 235 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:09,720 in the game. 236 00:15:11,799 --> 00:15:14,679 Speaker 2: Did he have some weird growth sprit or something or 237 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,039 used to play point guard at some point I thought 238 00:15:17,039 --> 00:15:20,559 I saw something floating around that when he just from 239 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:23,519 that handle perspective, like I think he grew up not 240 00:15:23,559 --> 00:15:26,080 playing center the whole time because he was a tall kid. Basically, 241 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,840 maybe not saying he should, like, get we're not close 242 00:15:30,879 --> 00:15:32,080 to point Yannick minutes. 243 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,759 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that at all, but just that feel 244 00:15:34,879 --> 00:15:35,519 is nice. 245 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, he can put the ball on the floor a 246 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:41,080 little bit. Uh. He had another play where he took 247 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,519 it to the basket I think in the preseason from 248 00:15:44,559 --> 00:15:49,879 the top of the arc, and it was really eye opening. Yeah. 249 00:15:49,879 --> 00:15:53,399 And then the one thing I do know is when 250 00:15:53,399 --> 00:15:58,200 I went back and watched interviews at Penn State, one 251 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:03,799 of the the interview sessions I saw was that his 252 00:16:03,919 --> 00:16:07,240 teammates had all been saying he's actually the best shooter 253 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,720 on the team, And I was like, what, And you 254 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:15,440 look at his shot form. I think there's really something there. 255 00:16:16,559 --> 00:16:18,559 I don't know what he's been shooting in the G league. 256 00:16:18,559 --> 00:16:19,679 I know he's hit a three. 257 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: Let me see if their stats are really it's. 258 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: Hard to Yeah, they're not easily available. 259 00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: Why aren't they just a spreadsheet? Like, can't we just 260 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,480 put this ship in a normal format? I like this 261 00:16:35,559 --> 00:16:40,320 point from Alex Webb. Harden raises every center's floor. So 262 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,039 if any if we're gonna see some Harden Yick minutes 263 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,159 which give him the personnel. There's a non zero chance 264 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:51,399 we see that at least tomorrow. He's in a nice 265 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:55,919 He has one of the best pairings to have, right 266 00:16:56,039 --> 00:17:01,399 if it's your So hopefully he looks competent next to 267 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:03,960 James Harden, who is going to be doing some heavy 268 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,440 lifting of helping him look confident. 269 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:09,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, and specifically and just having another rim runner out there, 270 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,279 which Harden is used to having all the time. And 271 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:16,680 as good as Zubots is, he's not the greatest. He's 272 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,240 not as good as Capella was in that area or 273 00:17:20,279 --> 00:17:22,839 some of the guys that Harden has worked with in 274 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,200 the past. That's just a vertical threat like that Janick is. 275 00:17:27,559 --> 00:17:29,960 And the footage from practice we saw today with them 276 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,000 working together kind of makes you think he's going to 277 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:36,079 get minutes, especially against a big team like the Rockets, 278 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,920 where really stinks not to have a Visa's hubas in 279 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,319 this one, since he just had thirty three points against 280 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,160 them and was destroying their front line, including Steven Adams. 281 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:48,559 But uh yeah, I would expect them to share the 282 00:17:48,599 --> 00:17:51,920 cord at times, and he can be the training wheels 283 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,799 for for Yonick getting him accustomed to the rim running role, 284 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,759 and I don't think because they haven't let Visa Zubos 285 00:17:59,839 --> 00:18:02,759 do it. But Yannick I don't think is going to 286 00:18:02,759 --> 00:18:06,240 be taking three pointers out there, but he has attempted 287 00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:09,920 some in the summer league in preseason. They'd have to 288 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,920 leave him wide open. Just Darren N she be like, okay, whatever, 289 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:16,680 uh to get away with that, I guess. But his 290 00:18:16,759 --> 00:18:21,119 shot form does look really, really smooth and effortless. So 291 00:18:21,599 --> 00:18:24,799 when his Penn State teammates said that, it raised an 292 00:18:24,839 --> 00:18:29,400 eyebrow for me and just something to track with this 293 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,279 player as we can't track any of his numbers apparently. 294 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: Dude, I'm trying to pull up his stats right now, 295 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,559 and like the only stats on the G League site 296 00:18:38,599 --> 00:18:42,640 are from the tip Off tournament where he took one 297 00:18:42,759 --> 00:18:45,319 three a game and shot twenty two. So I'm not 298 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,640 saying he's he's lighting it up from three. I do 299 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:54,759 agree the form is there there is He also seems 300 00:18:54,759 --> 00:18:57,279 like he has a little bit of the rookie wild 301 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,240 hair where he's like, maybe I can make this play, 302 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:02,880 which is usually something you don't want rookies to have. 303 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,799 You probably don't want Yanick to have it. Too much, 304 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,079 but like, I don't know, I'm excited to see the 305 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,000 It's such a funny difference, right because we're gonna have 306 00:19:14,039 --> 00:19:17,400 a very old starting center in brook Lopez, who knows 307 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,880 how to move well in for professional basketball, and then 308 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,519 we have Yanick who is basically like a deer on 309 00:19:23,559 --> 00:19:28,039 ice skates but has the athleticism to make things happen. 310 00:19:28,759 --> 00:19:30,880 It's a tough test against the Rockets, but like. 311 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. 312 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: I hope we talked about this a little bit with 313 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,240 Joey Lynn yesterday, But it's gonna be interesting with Collins 314 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,720 and Lopez kind of in that pick and roll with 315 00:19:42,759 --> 00:19:46,759 Harden now, because Lopez can pull the defense out if 316 00:19:46,799 --> 00:19:49,200 he's not the screener and Collins is the guy making 317 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:49,559 the read. 318 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that'll be a lot of what we see. 319 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,720 Whenever Collins has played the five, they ran it a 320 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,759 little bit with pick and a roll to some success. 321 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,839 So I assume he'll be sitting screen for James Harden 322 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,359 and Lopez will keep the floor stretched. We'll definitely get 323 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,920 to see that. And again, they played next to one 324 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,880 another in the preseason and during the first few weeks 325 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,480 of the season and the second units. So there's familiarity 326 00:20:12,519 --> 00:20:15,480 there between those two at the four and the five, 327 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:21,880 so it's not, you know, completely unfamiliar territory for the 328 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,359 Clippers to have those two on the court once again. 329 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,160 Maybe that's the blessing in disguise of John Collins starting 330 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,839 off the year with the backups. It's not like he 331 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,160 has taken off, although as of recent games he's been 332 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,079 playing better, but it's not like he's been amazing with 333 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,680 the starters so far. Maybe this will help both guys 334 00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:45,839 get things going a little bit. They're certainly going to 335 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,599 need it against the Houston Rockets. But John Collins and 336 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,000 his athleticism, I think I'm not sure what he had 337 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:58,119 in the first game against them, but the last two 338 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,759 games he's had twenty points. He's had seven teen points. 339 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:02,400 I think he was seven of ten. And then win 340 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,960 over the Lakers. He hit two three pointers in that game, 341 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,480 which is good to see. He was two or three 342 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,640 from the outside. That shot has still been evading him 343 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:15,119 so far this season. If he's gonna have a progression 344 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,599 to the mean, it's gonna be a pretty drastic one 345 00:21:17,599 --> 00:21:19,559 where he's gonna hit him. I have a game maybe 346 00:21:19,559 --> 00:21:22,240 where he hits five threes kipping where he's been the 347 00:21:22,279 --> 00:21:24,559 last two years and how poorly he's shot so far 348 00:21:24,599 --> 00:21:25,759 this year from three. 349 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he had seventeen against Lakers, twenty against the Thunder, 350 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,519 he was five for ten. Against the Grizzlies, he had 351 00:21:34,519 --> 00:21:39,359 ten points. December eleventh against the Rockets, he was he 352 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,640 was three for seven for nine points, no boards, two 353 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,079 assistance steals. 354 00:21:44,079 --> 00:21:46,599 Speaker 3: The board game. So that's the thing though. 355 00:21:47,559 --> 00:21:47,759 Speaker 1: Board. 356 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 3: It's the Rockets. They are historically great with offensive rebounds. 357 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,880 They killed the Clippers in that game, which the Clippers 358 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,160 were still in anyways. But yes, he has to be 359 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:03,880 at his best rebounding wise, and hopefully coming into this 360 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,240 game since he's just had twelve last time out, he's 361 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,000 got a little bit more confidence crashing the glass. 362 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: Well, I like I like that him and Kawhi both 363 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,119 maybe got some more confidence crashing the glass, because when 364 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,839 Kawhi is crashing the glass, he's engaged, as Tyler said, 365 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,880 and we've seen kind of two games of it. Also, 366 00:22:24,839 --> 00:22:27,279 College is only shooting thirty percent from three on the year. 367 00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:29,519 That is that might. 368 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: Be a career low just for a while three. 369 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: And is since twenty two twenty three, when he shot 370 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,200 twenty nine percent, So it's his second career low because 371 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:45,720 every other year is above thirty five percent. Going back 372 00:22:45,759 --> 00:22:47,200 to like twenty nineteen. 373 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,799 Speaker 3: And like, how many threes was he taking a game 374 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,839 back then compared to the last couple of years volume. 375 00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: Wise, Let me pull up Basketball Reference. Basketball Reference slows 376 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,880 my computer down there. 377 00:22:59,079 --> 00:23:02,599 Speaker 2: I don't get it, so I don't get it every 378 00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:05,559 time I open it. That's when my computer messes up. 379 00:23:05,839 --> 00:23:08,839 So he's taking three a game this year. He was 380 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,880 at three point seven last year and then three point four, 381 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,599 three point four. He's at three effectively for his whole. 382 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,319 Speaker 3: So his best season when he averaged twenty two to 383 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,960 ten in the twenty nineteen twenty twenty season. Granted it 384 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,559 was only forty one games, but he shot forty percent 385 00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:28,799 from three that year. 386 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,039 Speaker 1: On three and a half. 387 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's his highest output on Yeah, so like not, 388 00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:39,240 but the last two seasons, we're talking. 389 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: Over thirty six four hundred and threes. 390 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 3: We're talking like four hundred attempts the last two years 391 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,160 combined in Utah. So that's decent volume. And he shot 392 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,599 about thirty eight percent combined those two years. And now 393 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,039 we're getting thirty percent from the outside, so there is 394 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,279 more to him in that area. Again, if it's going 395 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,559 to even. 396 00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:02,039 Speaker 2: Two, because if you look at his two point percentage, 397 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,640 this is also one of his he's just having unfortunately 398 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,079 for him because it is a contract yere, he's having 399 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,079 literally his like worst shooting year ever from two to 400 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,240 three or close to it. 401 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,519 Speaker 3: Well. Yeah, his two point percentage just under sixty percent. 402 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,440 He has missed some layups in some games I've noticed 403 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,720 were like spacing wise. I don't think he's like he's 404 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:28,480 not aware where he is on the court at times, 405 00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:31,200 or spokes a layup an easy one. He's missed a 406 00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:34,039 dunk so far this season, so I think overall is 407 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,720 just bad luck, a rough start. Yeah, some bad luck 408 00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:40,359 in there. It's probably in his head. The Clippers are losing, 409 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,200 you know, to add to it or to compound things 410 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,799 with him, it's just been a tough adjustment. 411 00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 2: He's trying to do more on defense too, which isn't 412 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,200 a bad thing. I'm just assuming the team is asking 413 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,000 him to try and do a little more on defense 414 00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:54,799 because I mean, especially with injuries now, like we need 415 00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:56,359 everyone to do a little more of everything. 416 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they need they need some great rebounding performances tomorrow 417 00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:07,720 night just to you don't need to play the Rockets 418 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:10,359 even just only get beat by ten in. 419 00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: The regions with dignity. That's what I was saying earlier 420 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,519 in the stream good process, lose with dignity. I feel 421 00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:19,640 okay about it, Like I don't know, it's like I'm 422 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,799 not thinking this team's gonna win the finals, but we 423 00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:25,880 can still play good basketball, like we can still we 424 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,680 can still at least semi enjoy watching the team pending 425 00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:31,319 yeah play against the Rockets. 426 00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:38,079 Speaker 3: The Rockets are also coming in, uh, pretty motivated since 427 00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:40,559 they just lost a game in overtime in Sacramento and 428 00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:43,799 lost another game to the Pelicans that they never should 429 00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:46,400 have lost. Like up Big, They've had some late game 430 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,200 execution issues. They've blown and smoked a couple of games 431 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,039 recently where I think they're one in three the last 432 00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:56,920 four games now. So Emo Odoka said after last night's 433 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,960 lost in Sacramento, and he needs to find other ways 434 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,759 to motivate them against lesser teams, and I think they're 435 00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:07,039 looking at Doctors just one of the lesser teams. 436 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,279 Speaker 2: Wait, so we're gonna have to be the example game 437 00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:12,720 of how the Rockets deal with the lesser team. 438 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: God damn, I don't like that at all. 439 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 3: I posted last night. One of my favorite SNL skits 440 00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:22,079 was the the Decaf Coffee thing with Chris Farley where 441 00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:24,279 they switched it out on him, like on hidden camera, 442 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,680 things like did you know you're actually drinking? He's like, 443 00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:30,079 what you lied to me? And he fights everyone and 444 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,559 then at the end they ask him in an interview afterwards, 445 00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:37,039 like how is he feeling? And he's got like a 446 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,440 bandage rap and he's in crutches and he's like angry. 447 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,319 That's how. That's how the Rockets are going to be 448 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,599 angry tomorrow night. So you are going to get their 449 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,599 best shot. 450 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,519 Speaker 1: Yes, how we respond it will be. 451 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if I have a bunch of confidence, 452 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,279 but I will say I have more confidence in how 453 00:26:56,319 --> 00:27:01,480 this team will respond. Based on the the win against 454 00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:05,759 the Lakers. Someone is saying they have the talent. We 455 00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:10,839 don't have the talent though Clippers win tomorrow, zero doubt, 456 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,279 zero doubt from Alfonso Lopez that the Clippers win tomorrow. 457 00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:19,079 Speaker 3: Good for you, we'll see I doubt. I hope there's 458 00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:21,839 no one around here likes keeping receipts, because that would. 459 00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:24,279 Speaker 1: Be one I. 460 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 2: Will say Alfonso respectfully has no doubt. 461 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: He's not being rude about having no doubt. 462 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, he may relaxed. 463 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh. I don't know, it's been. It's just 464 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,480 genuinely such a weird year. I just want to see 465 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,000 some small, some small things to improve on. 466 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 3: Who is referencing eats a cat with me? They must 467 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,039 know I talk about that all the time. I did 468 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,279 reference the Terrible Thunderlivers Kvan Guy always saying when does 469 00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:57,200 the hurting stop? 470 00:27:57,799 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't even know what. 471 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 3: The Cat was a cartoon on Fox in the early 472 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,079 nineties that had like a two or three year run 473 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,000 and it was really well done, and it had like 474 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,440 parodies with pulp fiction and Jaws and stuff, and it 475 00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:12,440 was kind of one of those things where if you know, 476 00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:14,920 you know, if you were an adult watching it, you'd 477 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,920 get the jokes, but the kids just liked the craziness 478 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,319 and the animation. So this was like pre Pixar, but 479 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,240 it was on Fox. It was a great show. And 480 00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:27,319 then there was a spinoff called Terrible thunder Lizards where 481 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,839 there was a couple of capen One was voiced by 482 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,880 al Borland from a Home improvement who now does like 483 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:39,000 the infomercials with the hond up. Yeah, he was the 484 00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:40,440 nice one your card. 485 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, his name is Richard Carr. 486 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,279 Speaker 3: His buddy in it Bill or Bob or something like that. 487 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:49,839 He would always end up getting the short end of 488 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,920 the stick, where like a boulder would fall on him 489 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,119 at the end of the episode or a dinosaur step 490 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,319 on him. And his catchphrase was when does the hurting stopt? 491 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,440 And so I said that recently for the Clippers. I've 492 00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:03,079 even going through this stretch. 493 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: It stopped against the Lakers. 494 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:13,119 Speaker 2: Maybe we get some positivity against the Rockets. 495 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 3: I don't. 496 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm not. We'll see. 497 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: I uh, I do want to see because we had 498 00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:27,480 a string of games where they were competitive and there 499 00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:31,200 was dignity, and then they lost to Memphis when they 500 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,920 came back home off that road trip. Not just a 501 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,759 Memphis team, an under man Memphis team without Zach Edie 502 00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:39,279 and a bunch of other guys and John Moran did 503 00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:42,039 nothing in the game. They still lost and played terribly. 504 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,559 So yeah, I do as much as they need results 505 00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:51,279 and not just process, it would still be meaningful to 506 00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:54,480 see if you're gauging whether or not they're starting to 507 00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:56,839 turn a corner. We need to see them play some 508 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:57,640 good basketball. 509 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,599 Speaker 2: At least that's where because that's what I'm trying to 510 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,640 reconcile with is to me, I don't. I'm also like, 511 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,920 just turning the corner has changed so many different ways 512 00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:12,839 as this season has gone. I think because I'm like 513 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,799 just turning the corner, I mean, I think they're gonna 514 00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:16,000 go thirty five and twenty. 515 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,519 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna. 516 00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:17,759 Speaker 3: Do that. 517 00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: With Zoe being out. But now it's like, are they 518 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,519 turning a corner? In terms of all right, we still 519 00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:28,400 have the fire and we gave Houston a good run 520 00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:31,680 or whatever. Yanick is starting to develop a little bit, 521 00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:34,559 Kobe Sanders is starting to develop a little bit, you 522 00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:37,039 know what I mean, Like, I just I guess in 523 00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:40,200 terms of fan expectation, I'm like, it sucks that it 524 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,160 really seems like we're we might miss the playoffs. So 525 00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:47,319 let's let's try and find some positives because we're probably 526 00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:50,559 gonna get a trade. Lawrence Frank trades every single trade deadline. 527 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,799 I just think based on history, we probably get one. 528 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,759 Speaker 1: So like, let's just. 529 00:30:56,039 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: You know, get a couple of Yanick oops, Like, let's 530 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,119 see some small positives. 531 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, something to look forward to a glimpse of the 532 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,359 future with the young guys. I definitely don't want to 533 00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:13,079 hear that they've quit on this season, because they have. 534 00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:19,720 That's abundantly clear when you come out of games consistently 535 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,440 playing good basketball and doing the right things, and then 536 00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:27,160 later on they're old and slow and tired, like, that's 537 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,480 not to me a team that quit. That's to me, 538 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,960 just a team that doesn't have enough in the tank. 539 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,359 Speaker 1: They're frustrated. 540 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there was mental hurdles, and they have admitted 541 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,400 that recently that this losing streak was as much mental 542 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,000 as it was physical. With just losing five straight nineteen 543 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:47,839 of twenty two, there was a lot of stuff going 544 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,279 against them. But they definitely, as we said, heading into 545 00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:55,720 the Lakers game, they were tenth in net rating over 546 00:31:55,759 --> 00:31:59,119 the ten games prior in first halves and thirtieth in 547 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,960 net rating and sea second halves over the ten games 548 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,160 before the Lakers game, So you could see if this 549 00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:09,440 was a team that quit, that was sleepwalking into games 550 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,079 da just getting destroyed, that would be one thing. They 551 00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:17,359 were actually starting games fast is what they've been doing 552 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,039 for the most part. They can't sustain it. 553 00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: We've all we all remember running the mile in gym 554 00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:28,440 class and you do those those first two laps or 555 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,400 whatever and you're saying, I'm feeling great, and then you 556 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,720 don't get the Presidential Medal Fitness or whatever. 557 00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:38,119 Speaker 1: Alex Webb, did you get one? 558 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 3: I used to run like a five thirty in the mile, 559 00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:44,960 so what I was really fast? I was? I was 560 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,000 ran track and cross country. 561 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,119 Speaker 1: But did you get the Presidential Metal Fitness Medal? 562 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:53,559 Speaker 3: I don't remember. That was like a thing for like 563 00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:59,599 push ups and sit ups and run and involved. 564 00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:03,319 Speaker 2: Dude, you had to do like a visit, reach an 565 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,119 arm hang, mile, shuttle run. 566 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,839 Speaker 3: I think the flexibility part of it killed me. 567 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that makes sense. What up, Eric we. 568 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 569 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: Man, you know who's having a hell of a season. Eric, 570 00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:23,160 Eric is putting out. 571 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: Some of the worst, not worst, just most unhinged art, 572 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,480 and that's fantastic. Someone in the comments is talking about 573 00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,799 a video of Tyloo throwing a clipboard at Kawhi. 574 00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if that exists. 575 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, please send the clip Alex Webb was talking about 576 00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:52,680 Smoothie Gait, which I thought was so funny because I 577 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,759 think it it shows how dry and funny of a 578 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:01,359 sense of humor Kauwhi has that people don't maybe understand. 579 00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 3: No, but also he really mumbled it's a lie, and 580 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,480 then he kept moved on and nobody picked up when 581 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,000 he said that's a lie. Yeah, so I sympathized with 582 00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:16,880 till Mary asking the question at the end there everyone 583 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:19,599 would have missed it. I had to watch it multiple 584 00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:21,239 times and turn up the sound to hear what the 585 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,480 hell Choy said? And he said it was a lie first, 586 00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:28,320 right after dead panting saying, yeah, I threw it at 587 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,199 the Half World? 588 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 2: In what world is Kawhi Leonard going to tell the 589 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,719 press that he threw a milkshake at Half? Like That's 590 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,440 what got me is I'm like, what do we? 591 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 3: Well? Law was we Law was putting him under the 592 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,679 hot lamp and asking him about it, like, wait, did 593 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,199 you throw up? What happened? Because I guess it was 594 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,119 a huge mess. So like everybody was wondering, what the 595 00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:56,159 hell's going on here? 596 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:57,639 Speaker 1: See that? 597 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,079 Speaker 2: So maybe remember a couple of seasons ago when Paul 598 00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:03,280 George's car got in that hit and run and then 599 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,440 the Clippers went on that streak. He like posted the 600 00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:08,800 kid's face on his ig and was like, who is 601 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,000 this guy, he just hit my car. I'm not crazy. 602 00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:14,079 This happened someone in the chat. That is what I'm 603 00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:18,960 talking about. Maybe this is our version of that. Maybe 604 00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:24,519 this is the shakegate or whatever the shake bit is 605 00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:27,559 the Clippers. Then we get a wacky team outing, which 606 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:29,400 I will say Chris Paul was correct for trying to 607 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,280 get a Halloween party calling. Maybe outing, you know, just 608 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,039 these little things, we need, small positive things. 609 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:44,079 Speaker 3: Something happened back in the day with Blake Griffin obviously, 610 00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:47,559 remember he punched his buddy or whatever and broke his hand. 611 00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:51,519 That was on the training staff. Yes, so somebody at 612 00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:55,920 AM five seventy did a parody video song thing where 613 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,039 they said and hotline Bling had just come out and 614 00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:01,920 they said, every time on Blake Griffin swings, Clippers go 615 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,159 on winning streaks. Is right afterwards. I guess they won 616 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,960 ten of thirteen or something. I don't know. 617 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 2: Shake Kate, that's it was Pg's wife car Thank you, 618 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:11,599 Farty Cakes. 619 00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't losing my mind. I remember that. Yeah, So 620 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,840 maybe we get a dumb after milkshake Kate, or we 621 00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:21,400 just get you know. 622 00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:25,199 Speaker 3: I'm concerned that Houston's very very. 623 00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna be pissed. Off. 624 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 2: No, I don't again, I said it right off top, 625 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:36,599 lose with dignity, good process. Just yeah, let it wash 626 00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:40,360 over you. If you've never experienced the Clippers losing season before, 627 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,559 let it. 628 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 3: Shake wash over you. Let the shake that Kawhi didn't 629 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,519 throw wash over you. 630 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 2: We are all targets of the thrown milkshake that is 631 00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:57,639 this NBA season for the Clippers. But I don't know 632 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,719 it's And do you have anything else to say? On 633 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,360 on I don't have anything about trade rumors. Nothing has 634 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,679 come out, nothing is substantial yet. 635 00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 3: No. I mean, the one thing I do wonder about 636 00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:12,400 I kind of tiptoed around it last night, was if 637 00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:19,199 this will the loss of zubots, if this will turn 638 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,599 it into more of a lost season perceptually from the 639 00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:28,639 front offices point of view. If they eventually say, well, 640 00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:30,840 this is the straw that broke our back, the idea 641 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,960 of us being able to go thirty five and forty 642 00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:36,119 es salvage this season without of East's zoobots for three weeks, 643 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,960 that could be a tipping point for them and they 644 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,800 say Okay, maybe it is time, or maybe at least 645 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,480 pushes them further in that direction of possibly blowing it up. 646 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,039 I have no idea what they're thinking is on the situation. 647 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,679 That's just something across my mind. 648 00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:56,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if things do start to go further south. 649 00:37:56,679 --> 00:38:03,559 It's not like we're exactly you know, in Canada now, if. 650 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 3: We're not at the. 651 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: If Yeah, I really I hadn't thought about that. I 652 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:11,639 wonder if that. 653 00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: I don't think that makes them take a worse deal though, 654 00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,320 because this team is still they will not. 655 00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:19,559 Speaker 3: They will not take a deal that compromises future cap space. 656 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,800 They will not negotiate with They will not with terrorists. Yeah, 657 00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:28,280 that that's not going to happen. Now. Let's say, though, 658 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,519 they just really started getting obliterated and all of a 659 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:39,519 sudden those games where they start off fast lose. What 660 00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:42,159 if what if they weren't being competitive at all and 661 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,239 all those games we saw that they were in, just 662 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,559 like the Rockets game or the game in Memphis, and 663 00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:49,159 they lost them in the last five minutes. What if 664 00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:52,519 all of a sudden they were getting beat for you know, 665 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,159 forty five minutes of the ball game instead of being 666 00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:58,039 in it for forty five minutes and then losing it 667 00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:01,880 in the last three What if that happened? Everybody has 668 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,800 a prize. Everybody has a breaking point. Would that be 669 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,199 what sends this in a different direction for this season? 670 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:11,599 And they say, we just have to move on and 671 00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:14,679 play the young guys because we're we're just not even 672 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,679 competing out there. 673 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, the as Nico my cousin is here says, the 674 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,679 red wedding type season. 675 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lakers. Well, I mentioned too after. 676 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,599 Speaker 2: I mean that what sticks out to me is that, 677 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,159 you know, we see a couple more twenty to three 678 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,239 rounds or whatever, like if that kind. 679 00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 3: Of things are happening thirty to two Miami heat run. 680 00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:40,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty to that's what it was. I also, people 681 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,079 have been talking about this hardened to the Rockets thing. 682 00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:46,639 I think the last place James Harden goes is the Rockets, 683 00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:48,480 and you can glip me or whatever act with this. 684 00:39:48,679 --> 00:39:50,159 Speaker 1: I just don't see it happening. 685 00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 3: Didn't we research this? I mentioned email Odoka saying something 686 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,880 about Harden. Yeah, he's literally commented on this in the past, 687 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:03,000 So I don't. I don't see it happening. Nor do 688 00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:06,280 I see them selling off with their young guys to 689 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,400 get hard and like you're not getting to Bari Smith 690 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,800 Junior or something, right. 691 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,559 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing like, if the young guys 692 00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:17,840 are there, let's do it. We start saying thunder or 693 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,880 the frame. I didn't watch Game of Thrones. I understood 694 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:21,559 the Red Wedding Room. 695 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,519 Speaker 1: I did not watch. I'm not against it. I just 696 00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:25,599 I was doing other shit. 697 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 3: Okay, I was I did too cool for school? 698 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. I'm not against what. I will say this. 699 00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 2: I have seen one episode and we had a dude, 700 00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:39,559 we had a friend staying with us who was on 701 00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:41,679 a He was like, hey, can I crash them there 702 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,480 for a work weekend. I said, sure, We're doing a 703 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,360 barbecue Sunday. He goes, hey, is it cool if I 704 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,079 watched the final episode of Game of Thrones and we 705 00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,360 were like, yeah, we like, can we watch with you? 706 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,679 Like I've never seen it. I'll tell you what. I 707 00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:58,239 don't know what happened in the show, but when they 708 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:07,159 revealed whoever the guy got picked, he was disappointed about 709 00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:11,239 how that finale went. And it was such a funny. 710 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 3: Experience because the worst story, how could you think. 711 00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:17,199 Speaker 1: He was in his mind? 712 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,079 Speaker 3: And they really packed it in the final two seasons 713 00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:23,679 or last season and a half or whatever. The Starbucks 714 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,920 Cup was a dead giveaway. Things were going South. 715 00:41:26,199 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't. 716 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 2: It like got so bad that like it was considered 717 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,239 one of the greatest shows of all time, and then 718 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,320 like those last two seasons, just like I know this 719 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,760 is Patreon content, the last two seasons just like ruined it. 720 00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:39,519 Speaker 3: Well, the problem was so much of that show hinged 721 00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:41,760 on how it was going to end, because it was 722 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,000 all built upon Winter is Coming and this grand finale, 723 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,599 and it ended up being a little bit of a dud. 724 00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:50,960 So it would kind of be hard to go back 725 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,880 and rewatch it now because everything that they're building ends 726 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,679 up so anticlimactic. Anyways, for you, it's so unsatisfying. But 727 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,960 I've enjoyed Game of the Dragon won House of Dragons 728 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,760 going on. No, I'm not talking about Clippers House of Dragons. 729 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,199 I've I've enjoyed actually because there is no white walk 730 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,280 or bullshit where you're going, Oh who we go, here 731 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,079 we go. You're kind of just living in that world 732 00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:16,639 a little. 733 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,280 Speaker 1: Bit more sure. 734 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,519 Speaker 3: Okay, that's been a nice spin off. 735 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,760 Speaker 1: All right, Well that's good to know. I'll drop that down. 736 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,719 I should probably. 737 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 3: Watch I hear read the books the better. 738 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: Aren't they not even? All right? An? 739 00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:33,039 Speaker 3: No, they're not, And they may redo the last season 740 00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:34,440 Game of Thrones at some point. 741 00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's awesome. All right. 742 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 2: Any final thoughts on on trade time with the Clippers 743 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:45,199 before we send these people on their holiday week merry way? 744 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 3: Eh no? Uh is there anything else? Uh no? I yeah, 745 00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:57,920 what Chuck said. If you're gonna lose, lose with dignity 746 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:03,960 out there, play hard the right way and compete and 747 00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:09,400 get Yanica dunk on Aquaman. I need to see Conan 748 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:12,480 the Destroyer what I call him. That was the sequel. 749 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,440 Everybody else going with the Barbaria, but Conan the Destroyer 750 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,599 throws one down on Aquaman tomorrow. 751 00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 2: That'd be great, that'd be fantastic, clear eyes, full hearts. 752 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,000 Probably will lose, but let's lose with dignity. I've been 753 00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:28,400 Chuck Walker with Adam Oz and William Updike is spreading 754 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,800 the Clippers gospel in Montana. He will be back next week. 755 00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:35,039 Here's to a good showing tomorrow. Thank you for hanging out. 756 00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:38,079 We hope everyone has a wonderful holiday season. Whatever you're doing, 757 00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:41,599 we hope it's enjoyable and you have good people around you. 758 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,679 Thanks for hanging out. As always, let's go Clips