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Speaker 1: It is time for this week's Big twelfth SEC breakdown,

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Doubleshoon's tapas Christmas year with you with the Companiensis Quote

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six twelfth.

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Speaker 2: And the Southeastern Conferences.

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Speaker 1: And we have plenty to discuss on the college football

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playoff front. Let's begin with our hot takes as we

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always do, and Tom, where I am gonna go.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this right here and right now.

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Speaker 1: The winner of the College Troball Playoff National Championship.

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Speaker 2: This is a hot take.

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Speaker 1: I said last week that I think that the top

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four seeds have kind of separated themselves from the rest

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of the field, and going into the year, There's no

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way in hell I would have picked this team.

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Speaker 2: To win the national championship.

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Speaker 1: There's no way in hell I would even pick them

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to win their conference. But they damn sure have prove

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me wrong. I like the Texas Tech Red Raiders to

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win the national title.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: I think that Morton has looked very good since coming

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back from injury. I think the offensive line is salad.

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They got the skill position players. The defense has been unreal.

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Jacob Rodriguez has been fantastic, arguably the best player in

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college football. They're going to be a tough out for

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any body. They'll play Oregon likely in the quarterfinal, then

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they play Indiana, and then you know, in the national Championship,

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get probably Ohio State or Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I think Texas Tech matches up.

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Speaker 1: Well with all the teams remaining and their talent levels

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right up there, with one of the best rosters money

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could buy. At twenty eight million dollars, I like Texas

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Tech to win the whole thing town.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could very well see that happening.

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Speaker 4: I think Georgia might have something to say about it,

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but I don't think it's too far out in left

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field that the Tech can win this whole thing. I

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hope they do a big twelve fan I'm rooting for him.

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I think I think without it, without a doubt, they

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could do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think the only question I have tom is their

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head coach, Joe McGuire. I haven't been a big fan

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of Joey, but this year, to his credit, you give

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him the roster and it's been a whole different story here.

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And their one loss was a very close loss to

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Arizona State without Baron Morton. That could have gone either way,

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and it was a very excusable acceptable loss. So even

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with you and I, with the doubts we've had about

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Joey McGuire everything this season, he's done exactly what he's

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Speaker 2: I would give Joe McGuire an a grade.

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Speaker 1: I thought he should have gotten more consideration for Coach

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of the Year this year. To be honest, he sure

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he was given the roster, but he did what he

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needed to do with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you can't. I'm the man for having

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a good roster.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's it's kind of what do they say,

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You play the team in front of you. You take

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what you're giving and do the best thing possible. And

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he's done about the best he could do. I mean

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at this point when in Natti would be a huge

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cherry on top.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom, picture a guy, Tom, Where do you want

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to go with your hot Tech this week? Uh?

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Speaker 4: You know, I'll go to the I'll go to the

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Big twelve Conference in the In the men's basketball starting out,

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I mean, look how that even You got two teams

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in the top four right now. I know it's early on,

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but again, like you said, in Texas Tech, they've done

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what they needed to do. Iowa State Arizona both undefeated

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eleven and ten and oh teams have looked very impressive

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really in the If you look at the top teams

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into the conference, you got Iloa stayed eleven, O, Arizona

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Colorado ten and one, Houston ten and one, Oklahoma State

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nine and one, UCF nine and one. KU is still

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sitting there nine and three, Tech eight and three. I

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mean the worst team so far through eleven games played

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right now would be Utah maybe at seven and four.

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I mean, top down through this entire conference, who's better?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, it looks like they've taken their

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mantle back as the best conference in college basketball. The

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SEC had a historic year last year, and the SEC

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is still gonna be very good this year, but it

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seems like the Big twelves back on top.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's I I haven't watched a whole lot

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of college basketball in recent years. This year obviously be

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a little bit different, but man, what a blood bat

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this conference.

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Speaker 3: Is gonna be.

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Speaker 4: When the conference play, I think what starts a couple

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of weeks. Yeah, it's it's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, every night is no no one wants to

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play Arizona right now.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, they look obviously number one for a reason,

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but they I don't want to crown them Big twelve

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champion already.

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Speaker 3: But it seems pretty cut and dry that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I know this sounds like I know this sounds like

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a cop out, Tom, but I think this very well

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could be one of those co champion type years where

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it's like Arizona and Houston, maybe even a third team

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splitting the regular season title.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that. I definitely can see that.

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Speaker 4: And then you get into the Big twelve Champion or

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Big twelve Championship in the in the Sprint Center.

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Speaker 2: Yes, not Team Mobile.

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Speaker 3: That is going to be a show.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be a fun pre March Madness atmosphere. How

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many of these Big twelve teams don't you think get

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into the dance right now?

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Speaker 3: I know it's a.

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Speaker 4: Ooh that's a good question, man, I right now I

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can see ten.

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Speaker 1: I can see ten. Yeah, nine or ten. Now here's

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an interesting note as well. Uh, and we're gonna move

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on after this. They reduced the conference schedule this year.

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You know, Houston last year went nineteen and one, and

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Kelvin Sampson was kind of bitching about it, and honest rightfully,

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so he's like, why are we playing twenty conference games?

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It arguably the toughest conference in the country, he said,

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is just too much. And they reduced scheduled to eighteen

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conference games. So something to monitor now that you've added

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essentially potential for two more cupcakes to your non conference

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right it made by reducing the conference schedule. How much

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of that does that result in a boost for these

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teams potentially when it comes.

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Speaker 2: To the tournament resume.

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Speaker 1: That will be something to watch come March when that

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all unfolds there.

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Speaker 2: All right, we.

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Speaker 1: Got some transfer portal movement tom of some big names

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in the Big twelve side of things. Sam Levitt out

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at Arizona State, Soorsby out at Cincinnati, And I want

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to start with Soresby first. His girlfriend is a volleyball player,

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and she hit the transfer portal and committed to Texas Tech.

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I would think that was probably u one of the

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biggest paydays a volleyball player has ever gotten into.

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Speaker 2: Transfer portal.

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Speaker 1: Seems like a foreground conclusion, doesn't it. You know, she's

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headed there. Tech's got all this money.

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Speaker 2: Baron Morton gone.

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Speaker 3: Did you see the Airbnb thing?

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Speaker 4: I did not tell me so uh, And I don't

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know how people find this, I really I'm I'm I

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like to think of myself as like a private investigator,

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Like I can find some ship on people, and the

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people who tracked the flights, you know, they somehow find

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out what plane these people are on, or what some

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planes leaving from here. It's probably this person. Somehow they

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found out that I'm trying to think it was a

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Brendan Soorsby's YouTube account got logged into from an Airbnb

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in Lubbock.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah. Then I was like, that's incredible.

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Speaker 4: It was either his like net no, I had to

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be in his YouTube account, but they they found out

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his YouTube was logged into at an Airbnb in Lubbock,

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and obviously claiming that Swordsby was in Lubbock meeting with TEG.

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Speaker 3: There we go.

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Speaker 2: That seems like a done deal.

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Speaker 1: And you and I were talking a few weeks ago

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about that we liked Will Hammond. I know that he

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didn't play that great in that lost Arizona state. But Tom,

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if you're Texas Tech and you have the money here.

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It's not a knock on Will Hammon. But if you

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have a chance to go get a guy like Soresby,

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who's arguably the best quarterback in the portal, why would

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you not.

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Speaker 2: It's it's not saying like, you know, hey, Will Hammon,

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Speaker 5: You you did, don't want to play with you anymore, but.

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Speaker 1: We could do better than you. It's not personal, it's business.

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I don't blame them at all, to be honest.

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Speaker 4: I mean Will Hammond would go wherever he was going

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to make the most money. Yeah, what it is, I mean,

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why wouldn't you. I mean, you're not guaranteed the next

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level to have a contract. You better make the most

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money you can't right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Texas Tech's got to look out for themselves.

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Speaker 2: They always to their boosters.

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Speaker 1: They're in il people to put the best roster together,

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and if Soresby is an option, then why not. I

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don't blame them one bit at all. Will Hammond's gonna

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be just fine. I'm sure he'll find a nice landing

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spot and probably be a starting quarterback somewhere next year

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at a Power Conference school.

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Speaker 3: Anyway.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm not he's he shouldn't be worried obviously,

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you know, he wants to take his shot and you know,

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be the next Baron Morton for that team and what

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that would do for your NFL. You know, prospect, you probability,

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But yeah, Haymon will be fine. Uh, sorts me pretty

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much done deal in tech for sure.

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Speaker 1: Sam Levitt, his recruitment kind of all over the place. Uh,

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Speaker 2: There's been talk about.

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Speaker 1: LSU, Texas Tech was mentioned, but it doesn't seem like

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that's happening. I've seen Oregon, Miami all over the place.

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Speaker 2: Sam Levitt.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the full story, worry what's gone on

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with Sam Levitt, but there seems to be some odd

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stuff that's going on behind the scenes, whether it was

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you know, him trying to get paid a certain amount

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and Arizona State not having that money, which I think

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is odd because you know, they were one of the

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biggest schools in the country. They should have plenty of money.

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willing to give Levitt what he was looking for. And

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I know Jordan Tyson's head of the NFL, but you know,

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with Kenny Dellingham, there and everything. There's plenty of chances

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for Sam Levitt to compete and take this team to

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a Big twelve championship in the College Football.

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Speaker 2: Playoff next year. Right there, it feels like a money

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grab to me.

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Speaker 1: But we don't know all the details officially of that situation.

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junior year. Remember he started at Michigan State. But it's

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it's just very odd curious what the what the conclusion

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is and what the full story is of this situation.

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like that levit's bag chasing here because Arizona State they

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don't want him to leave.

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Speaker 2: He is their guy.

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Speaker 1: He is already one of the greatest quarterbacks in that

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program's history, and he and you know, don't him been

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a great match it. It just doesn't add up unless

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it's strictly money.

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Speaker 4: Here, yeah, or maybe some bad blood somewhere or something.

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know what happens in the locker room necessarily, or nothing's

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come out about that situation. So I mean, yeah, it

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does seem like a bag chase. I mean, where Reedy

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ends up. They'll be lucky to have him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: There's gotta be more going on than what we know,

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but maybe we'll get the full story at some point

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in time to see what happened there. You know, his coach,

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Kenny Dillingham has you know, said that he's working on

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an extension, wants to stay there at Arizona State.

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Speaker 2: Michigan's been pursuing him heavily.

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Speaker 1: I'd be surprised Kenny Dillingham leaves at this point, but

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we'll see where things go from here. Let's talk now,

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Tom about the college Football playolf and how things stack

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up for the Big twelve and SEC side of things.

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And let's look at this weekend slate when it comes

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to the CFP and these games that we're talking about,

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beginning with Ou and Alabama. Tom, the Oklahoma Sooners the

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Alabama Crimson Tide. At the time of this recording, Oklahoma

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now favored by one and a half. Bama opened as

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a one and a half point favorite, but things have changed.

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And here's what I look at, Tom. There's two scenarios

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I could see playing out in this Ou Alabama game.

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If you're an OU fan, this is where I think

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you should be smiling a bit is that your defense

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has been one of, if not the best, in the country,

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and you're.

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Speaker 2: Getting our Mason Thomas back.

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Speaker 1: Your best defensive player who did not play against Alabama

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when you had four sacks. He leads this team with

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six and a half sacks. That's a big deal. That's

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huge for this team. They were plus three in turnover

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margin against Alabama the first go round. All of that

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is really good. Now, let me get to the bad

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end of things here. Okay, if o you were to lose,

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and I think this could play out in any playoff game,

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could be this week, could be the Rose Bowl, could

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be after that.

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Speaker 2: The way to beat Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: Is that offense has got to be exposed, because, let's

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be frank, it's not a good offense right now. John

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Mattier has not looked like the same quarterbacks since coming

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back from injury. The run game's been inconsistent, the offensive

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line hasn't looked a great If you turn it into

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a shootout, then you can blow the doors off OHU

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and make us a runaway. If you can somehow turn

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it into a shootout and get past Oklahoma's defense, which

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is easier said than done. Ty Simpson. To me, Tom,

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I just don't know if he plays like the ty

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Simpson that we've seen the last four weeks, with a

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completion percentage less than fifty eight percent, five touchdowns, four interceptions,

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sacked ten times has played absolutely atrocious.

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Speaker 2: Oh you wins this game.

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Speaker 1: They probably win by double digits if we see that

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Ty Simpson. But if ty Simpson can look like what

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he was prior to the Ou game and look like

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the guy that was on pace to be a first

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round draft pick and a Heisman contender, And if Alabama's

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offense can get going, because when when Alabama's offense is going,

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it's much better than OU's offense, but they've had problems.

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Speaker 2: Running the football on the offensive line all season.

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Speaker 1: If Baba can figure that out, then Baba could win

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this game and ty Simpson could take.

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Speaker 2: Them to victory.

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Speaker 1: I think this game, one way or another, it comes

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down to ty Simpson's performance.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I think that's a the only way that's

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gonna shake out. I've seen people guesstimate the score of

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about twenty to seventeen.

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Speaker 3: To me, that seems right on brand.

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Speaker 4: I think you're not gonna I don't see I don't

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I don't feel like we're gonna see.

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Speaker 3: A big shoot out here.

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Speaker 4: You know, OU's defenses has been tough to score on,

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and they've played in several lower scoring games than maybe

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people we're used to seeing an OU team play like

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and let's say the Big twelve Days. So I mean,

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this is gonna be It's gonna be a hell of

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a game and man, Norman's gonna be rocking on Friday night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing to monitor as well, Tom, I

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think is in OU's case, I hate to say that

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they're kind of happy to be here, but you know,

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they weren't supposed to be here, right, Like nobody thought, oh.

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Speaker 2: You was making the playoff.

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Speaker 1: At the beginning of the season, Brent Vinables was on

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the hot seat of sorts like this is this is

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as good as it gets. No one has any expectations

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for ow you beyond here, And I would say that

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the pressure is kind of off of them, of sorts.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Now there's pressure on the program because they have never

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won a college football playoff game. They're at home and

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they're favored now, But I wouldn't say there's any pressure

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directly on like John Matteer or rent ventibles to win

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this game.

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Speaker 2: On the flip side of they're Alabama, the pressure is everywhere.

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Speaker 1: You got Dan Orlowski this week saying that, hey, if

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Simpson plays well against Ou, he could play himself into

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being a top ten pick. If he struggles, he's got

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to go back to school. That's how big this game

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is for Ty Simpson. Kaylin de Boor, my dad and

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I were talking about this yesterday. I think Kaylen de

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Boor is a fantastic coach, but he plays that West

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Coast style and they're not tough, and that hasn't gled

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well with BAMA fans where they can't stand him and

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he's not well liked. And even though he's been successful

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and he's done a good job by every menager, he's

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not one of their own.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of somewhere to Brian Kelly.

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Speaker 1: And if they lose this game, and that's his third

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lost to Oklahoma, pitchforks are going to be out on

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uh on Kaitlin de Boor, and maybe he's thinking, why

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do I have to put up with this? Why don't

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I go to Michigan? Why did I turn down Penn State.

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I think Tom like the pressure. If we're talking individuals,

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it's it's Kaylin de Board's Simpson. It's not prin Vittables

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and John Teer.

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Speaker 4: I think, oh yeah, you know Kaylen de Boor is thinking,

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you know, if I lose this game, why wouldn't I.

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I'm you know, he's he comes from, you know, Washington

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as of recent coming down and playing the SEC Some

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people aren't built for it. And I'm not gonna say

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he's not built for it, but you know that fan

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base is probably rolling him up, giving him ship every week,

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and it's just like, okay, big shoes to fill in

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Nick Saban, Like shit, ain't gonna be a sweet out

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of the gate.

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Speaker 3: I think Alabama fans are. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're justified and rallying him up. You know,

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you get however, many years in Nick Saban, you should

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be blessed to have that. And you know, I think

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Kaylen de bar from all counts has done a decent

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job so far. I don't think he's done a bad job,

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but it's not all was gonna be Natty or or

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Bus for Alabama each and every year. Like right with

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the way players are being paid in the portal like it's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be tough for anybody to do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is the week OU's offense gets exposed.

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I think bann has got just a ton more issues

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than OU does.

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Speaker 2: I don't think O us playing that great either by

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any means. They They did not.

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Speaker 1: Look impressive at all against LSU, but they've had their

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way with Bama the last couple of seasons. Now they're

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at home and all the pressure being on Obama here.

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I like OU by double digits. I'll go sooner twenty

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four thirteen to get a dollar.

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Speaker 2: You who do you like in this?

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Speaker 4: I like OU as well. I think it's a little

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bit closer than that. I'm gonna go twenty four to

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twenty one Ou.

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Speaker 1: Okay A and M in Miami tom A and M

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Mike Elko. You and I have been singing his praises

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for a while. He's done a great job and is

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The only stumble was that Texas game, And I know

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it sucks for them that they lost a rivalry game,

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and their undefeated season and the rest to see championship

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hopes all died right then and there, and we haven't

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seen them play since that lost to Texas, but they

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did play an easy schedule. You did have the road

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win against Notre Dame. As crazy it sounds, I feel

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like we still don't really know who A and M is.

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And you get a Miami team that they're physical, they

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got a good offensive line, they can run the football,

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they play good defense. Carson Beck, if he doesn't turn

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the football over, Miami could be undefeated right now.

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Speaker 2: He threw way too many picks in their two losses.

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Speaker 1: Like Tom, I think I leaned towards Miami here. But

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and even in Carson Beck's case, like he's played in

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big games, Like sure, we don't know what version we're

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necessarily gonna get, but he's much more familiar with this

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stage than Marcel Reid and Texas A and M is.

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I know A and M's at home and Kyle Field

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and all that, but uh, something something tells.

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Speaker 2: Me I kind of lean towards Miami in this game.

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Speaker 4: Very interesting. I mean, I think it could definitely go

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either way. And we still, like you said, don't really

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know how A and M is as a team.

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Speaker 3: Are they good or bad?

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Speaker 4: You know Marcel Reid's gonna return next year either way,

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so you do have some stability there even on the

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clients leaving I like A and M in this game.

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Last time, I feel like I said I like A

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and M. They lost to Texas. Every time I pick

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against A and M, they always win. So I don't know,

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maybe the reverse voodoo here again, but I will take

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A and M.

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Speaker 3: I'll take a M by a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and then two lane taken an ole Miss. I

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tell y'all last week, don't fall for the trap of

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taking two lane in this game. These teams two teams

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already met up. Ole Miss dominated them. I know I'm

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not a big fan of Pete Golding, they promoted to

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be their head coach, but Charles Wist Junior is still

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calling the plays and everything.

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Speaker 2: There's this team's going through a.

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Speaker 1: Lot with this Lane Kiffin situation, But I don't think

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this is the game where that becomes a problem.

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Speaker 2: If they were playing a team like Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: Or Alabama or Miami or Oregon, then I think ole

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Miss would be in big trouble right now. But they're

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playing a group of six school that they are extremely

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more talented than they're at home. There's just no reason

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for ole Miss to lose this game. You know, shout

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out to Cade and Maddie and you know are two

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lane friends at the roundtable. You know they've had a

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great season. But it's just a talent mismatch, Like there's

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if we're talking based on the talent there, it's not

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even close between.

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Speaker 2: These two teams and.

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Speaker 3: Over the by J.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would take Channelis over over the BYG. Yes,

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I would yes over Jack Retz laugh. I I think

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that that ole Miss should win this game. It would

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take you know, we've seen some crazy step four, but

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I just don't see it happening.

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Speaker 2: Tom. Like this, if if.

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Speaker 1: All goes right, if ole Miss does what they're supposed

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to do, this game shouldn't even be close.

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Speaker 3: No, you're right, You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: All mentioned but they won the first time, like thirty

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five to ten or something like that, something predictable, multiple scores,

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thirty eight, something I'd forget, but I predict something like that,

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the same type of score.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I gave you my National Championship pick Tom

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before we go here. I got Texas Tech beating Georgia

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in the National title game first time. The Big Ten

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in the last two seasons not only doesn't get a

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team in the title game, but doesn't have a big

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ten team win it either Big twelve sec for the

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Big twelve sec breakdown Texas Deck and Georgia Texas Deck

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wins it all.

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Speaker 2: Who's who's your pick? Who gets there and who wins it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take the same matchup, but I've got to say,

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go dogs.

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Speaker 3: I think George is gonna be too good.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mortar comp stay with us as we continue.

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Join us now in the program this week, please to

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welcome in from.

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Speaker 2: NBC four in Columbus, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: It is our guy, Joe Nugent, who joins us for

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the very first time.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it. I've known this guy for a

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00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:02,240
long time. We both worked in Omaha.

477
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,079
Speaker 1: Uh many years ago and stayed in touch, and now

478
00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:08,200
he's doing a great job covering the buck Eyes and

479
00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:09,319
he joins us right now.

480
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: Joe long over, du glad we can make this happen.

481
00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: Man.

482
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know this is good. Yeah, no, no, no,

483
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,039
it's it's great to chat with you. I know we

484
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,160
ran into each other down at the Cotton Bowl last year,

485
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:21,799
so we'd probably do it again here this year. It'll

486
00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:24,000
be it'll be fun to see what happens here in

487
00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:24,400
this game.

488
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: Yes, uh, the uh what was that? The the ice storm,

489
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,279
the snowpocalyps that occurring.

490
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 5: Yes, And I was kind of thinking, like for those

491
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,599
of us, you know, who came from Ohio and whatever,

492
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,720
we're like, it's like, man, if we're gonna play in

493
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:40,920
a dome and the weather's gonna be bad outside, you

494
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,480
could do that in Indianapolis.

495
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 3: You can do that. You know.

496
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 5: It was kind of like, you know, it was just funny.

497
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,319
You know, he traveled a couple hours at a play

498
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:50,319
and it's like, it's the same weather man. This is crazy.

499
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,079
I thought it was gonna be warm, right.

500
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:52,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

501
00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: That was a bizarre couple of days there, but it

502
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,839
was a good time and the Buckeyes of course got

503
00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:01,319
that win on their way to a national chamchampionship there

504
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,000
last season. Joe, before we dive into too much business,

505
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,799
because it is your first time here with us, tell

506
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,319
us a little bit about yourself. I know you're an

507
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,519
Ohio guy. Getting the cover Ohio State. That's got to

508
00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:15,039
be a dream come true of sorts.

509
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a pretty cool deal. I was born

510
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,319
up in the Cleveland area, moved around growing up as

511
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,079
a kid, all around Ohio, so you know, definitely a

512
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:28,960
buck eye all the way through. But it was also interesting.

513
00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:32,240
I moved to Michigan at one point two. I was

514
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:34,319
in third grade, So it's actually kind of funny because

515
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:36,880
I moved from Columbus up to the Detroit area and

516
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,920
you know, a new kid in third grade and I'm

517
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,200
in an elementary school with you know, two hundred Michigan

518
00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:45,640
fans and I'm the only Ohio State fan in the school.

519
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,279
So yeah, you want to talk about living that rivalry.

520
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,000
I mean at a young age, you know, that was

521
00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:53,400
kind of the experience. But yeah, it's been good man.

522
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,000
I mean I've been to a bunch of big Ohio

523
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,759
State games through my life, you know, as a fan,

524
00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:01,119
you know, before working in the media of course, you know,

525
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,759
now covering the team weekend and week out, obviously hitting

526
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:07,559
up all the games too, So it's yeah, it's been

527
00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:11,720
pretty neat. You know, I really appreciate this program. It's

528
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,279
cool to be around it. It's cool to be around

529
00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:16,920
the guys. It's you know, they're they're a good groups.

530
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,440
So I do enjoy it from a personal side as well.

531
00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:23,000
Not only you know, seeing the scarlet and gray, but

532
00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:25,400
you know, a lot of respect for what's going on

533
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,720
inside the program as well.

534
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:31,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to think how far they've come in a

535
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,160
short amount of time, Joe. This weekend last year and

536
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,519
talk nationally was about Ryan Day's future. If they were

537
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:42,960
to lose to Tennessee and a lot of people picked

538
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,160
Tennessee to win that game, would he still be the

539
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,400
head coach at Ohio State or not coming off the

540
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,960
lost to Michigan. Of course, now to getting to the

541
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,960
Big Ten Championship and a year later. I know that

542
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,279
it was disappointing that they did lose in the Big

543
00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:59,200
Ten Championship Indiana, and we'll get into all that, but

544
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:02,680
when in the National Championship dominating the way the regular

545
00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:08,160
season they did, things changed pretty quickly for this Ohio

546
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,799
State program in in the last eleven months here.

547
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. It is interesting. You know, you kind

548
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,799
of get the feeling around town, you know, talking to

549
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,960
Ohio State fans. You know, nobody's hitting the panic button

550
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:22,400
this year after the Big Ten Championship, after that loss

551
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,640
to Indiana, because it's the same way that Ohio State

552
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,240
went into the playoff last year. To your point, but

553
00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:31,759
I think the big difference here is that loss to

554
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,200
Michigan last year is a twenty point favorite at home.

555
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,920
You know, that was a gut wrenching type of loss,

556
00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:41,079
you know, losing to the number two team in the

557
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:43,279
country that's now the number one team in the country.

558
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,640
You know, in a game where you didn't really play

559
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,480
that well. Also you missed a late field goal that

560
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:50,400
could have you know, tied it and potentially set it

561
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,680
to overtime. You know, it's it's a different it's a

562
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,200
different type of maybe anger, a different type of frustration

563
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,400
that the buck Geys are feeling this year compared to

564
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,599
last year. It's the end. The emotion isn't quite as

565
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,799
strong as it was a year ago. So it was

566
00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:07,319
you know, it was really interested in how it played

567
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:10,440
out last year against Tennessee because the volunteers, you know,

568
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,079
they traveled great, as you know, and they had a

569
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:15,599
ton of fans at Ohio Stadium last year for that

570
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,920
playoff game, and it was cold out the way you know,

571
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,720
I mean it was really really cold. So for Ohio

572
00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:25,680
State fans, who you know normally tailgate before especially before

573
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,440
a night game, you know, like any other college you

574
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,559
know football fan base, you know, people weren't really doing

575
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:32,000
it that day. You know, it was like, hey, I'll

576
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,119
be there at eight o'clock or you know, whenever this

577
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,279
game kicks off, that's when I'll be there. So all

578
00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:39,000
these folks from Tennessee who drove up, you know, they

579
00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:41,799
obviously arrived in town. You know, maybe they got a

580
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:44,079
hotel Friday night or they you know, drove up and

581
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,960
got in town you know, three, four or five hours

582
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,480
before the game. So as you drived around, if you

583
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:51,880
drove around the stadium before the game, you saw a

584
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,319
lot of orange. I mean it looked like like like

585
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,799
man like Tennessee you know, certainly is going to bring it.

586
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,279
But for the volunteer fans, like they they a lot

587
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:04,839
of them thought that like, hey, we're going to take

588
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,000
over the stadium now. You know, as it turned out,

589
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:10,680
I would say they've probably had twenty five thousand fans there,

590
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,799
which is a huge number. It's a quarter of the stadium,

591
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:15,519
I mean, super impressive, but obviously not enough to quote

592
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:19,599
unquote you know, take over a stadium. But then because

593
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,480
nobody lives in Columbus is a Tennessee fan, you know,

594
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:24,480
and you know it's first time Tennessee's been up at

595
00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:26,960
Ohio State. You know, everybody wants to check out the stadium.

596
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,960
They want to get in the stadium early. There's you know,

597
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,319
it's freezing, you know outside, it's not really like a

598
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:34,559
great tailgate scene. Might as well go in and watch

599
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:36,759
the guys warm up. So then the Buck guys, you know,

600
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:38,799
come out to take the field, you know, to warm

601
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,400
up an hour and a half beforehand. And you know,

602
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,359
there's like fifteen thousand Tennessee fans already in the stadium

603
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,839
at that point, and uh and at that point, you know,

604
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:49,640
all their cheers, all their chance, they are taking over

605
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,799
the stadium like that, Like that is a you know,

606
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:55,400
that's a pro Tennessee crowd at that point. And so

607
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,400
that kind of pissed off the Buck guys. The Michigan

608
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,960
game pissed off the Buck guys. So there was a

609
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,680
lot going on. And you know, they got out to

610
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,200
a fast start in that game, get Jeremiah Smith for

611
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,160
a touchdown, and you know they're often running from there.

612
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,200
But there was just there was a lot of emotion

613
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:13,119
involved in that that. I don't think it's going to

614
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,039
play a role this year when they you know, head

615
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:16,519
down at Dallas to play the Cotton Bowl.

616
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

617
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great point it's a whole different mindset

618
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,400
that they're gonna have to find some more motivation of sorts.

619
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,319
Speaker 2: And and you know, I look at.

620
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,799
Speaker 1: That lost to Indiana, and you know, I understand some frustrations.

621
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,240
I think we all do, Joe that that's a game

622
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,680
that Ohio State was favored in that they feel like

623
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:40,079
that they should have won. But Indiana a very good team,

624
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,359
a quality team, number one team in the country. Of

625
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,559
course you lose that, But I feel like if they

626
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,599
played ten times, they probably split five out of five.

627
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,759
Maybe Ohio State even wins six out of ten times,

628
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:57,200
Like if that ends up being a rematch, if the

629
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,039
two were to go toe to toe again, I think

630
00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:03,440
if you're out of state, you're still feeling very good

631
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,599
about where you stand going in this playoff right now?

632
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,279
Speaker 5: Yeah about it. I think there's certainly a lot of

633
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:11,359
Ohio State fans that I would I think a lot

634
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,200
of the players as well in the team would love

635
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,960
to have an opportunity to play that game one more time.

636
00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:17,960
You know, I don't want to make any excuses for

637
00:33:18,359 --> 00:33:21,799
those guys, so that this is just me talking, but

638
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,319
I think going into this game, you know, the two

639
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:27,200
teams went into it in very very different ways.

640
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: You know.

641
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,759
Speaker 5: For one, Indiana played Purdue on Friday night the week before,

642
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:33,920
so they did have an extra day of prep. Was

643
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,599
that significant, I don't know. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Also,

644
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:41,400
Prdue is their rival, but you know, Purdue is not good.

645
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,559
They dominated that game. It was it was over early.

646
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,279
It wasn't necessarily a big emotional win for Indiana. On

647
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:50,759
the flip side, Ohio State beat Michigan for the first

648
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:53,200
time in four years, did it in ann Arbor, you know,

649
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:56,359
on their field, and it was an emotional win for

650
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,640
Ohio State. I mean the way the guys celebrated with

651
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,279
the fans like they always do. Win at Michigan Stadium.

652
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:05,519
It's a big, big deal and you know, it's potentially

653
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:08,000
a challenge to hit the reset button. And that's the

654
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:10,800
first time this season that they really played two back

655
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,719
to back big games, you know, because you know the

656
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,159
Big Ten, you know, I mean the middle of the

657
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,159
Big ten, the bottom of the Big Ten. You know,

658
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:22,599
Ohio State's a big favorite in you know, most of

659
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:26,039
those games. And that's so so they had that scenario

660
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,199
for the first time. And I don't know if that's

661
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,920
why they lost to Indiana. I don't know if that's

662
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,800
why they didn't play their best, but I kind of

663
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,400
believe that it certainly played a role in that game.

664
00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:38,039
So you know, if you go to a national championship game,

665
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,519
you know Ohio State's actually gonna have the extra day

666
00:34:41,519 --> 00:34:44,960
of prep because their semi final, the Festa Fiesta Bowl,

667
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,960
would be the day before the other semi final the

668
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,159
Indiana would play in. But also, you know, both teams

669
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:51,800
are going to come in off of a big emotional

670
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,920
win in the semi final, so I just think things

671
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,239
are going to be more level. Also, this game, potential

672
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,800
to national championship will not be inside the state of

673
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:03,159
It will not be in downtown in Indianapolis, you know,

674
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,760
It'll be in Miami, so it'll be more of a

675
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,519
neutral site situation as well. I'm confident the Buck guys

676
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:12,239
can you know, go into places and beat teams. They

677
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,599
beat Texas obviously in Texas last year. But I think

678
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:18,599
if you have a choice, you'd rather have more of

679
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:21,880
a neutral site situation. So I think for a lot

680
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,119
of reasons, Ohio State would like to have another chance

681
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:28,400
at the Hoosiers. You know, Jaden Fielding who missed the

682
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,679
kick late in that game in the Big Ten Championship,

683
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,199
that twenty seven yarder. He's been really good all season.

684
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,000
I mean, that's the first time where you know, he

685
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:37,159
missed it kick where it was like, you know, gosh,

686
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,840
you know, he thought it would you know, we all

687
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,679
thought it was going to go through and we'll see

688
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,159
what happens from there. So that was really the first

689
00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:46,320
time that he struggled in that moment. You know, Ohio

690
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,960
States has some issues in short yardage situations. You know

691
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,119
that came to roost in the Indiana game. So I

692
00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:57,480
think there are some issues that played a role in

693
00:35:57,519 --> 00:36:01,000
that game, but issues that they can fix. You know,

694
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
they haven't been issues that they've had all seasons, so

695
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,920
it's not like they've struggled in those areas. I think

696
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,320
it was just kind of a problem that we've started

697
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,440
to see and you know, have confidence that they'll get

698
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:11,559
get those things corrected.

699
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: Joe Nujan joining us here on the program this week. Joe,

700
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,159
let's talk about the quarterback, Julian saying.

701
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,639
Speaker 2: It was highly recruited.

702
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:24,679
Speaker 1: Of course started at Alabama and finally got his chance,

703
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,440
and I think there was some big questions of you know,

704
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,360
what was he going to turn into this season and

705
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:35,880
here we are. He was a Heisman finalist and was

706
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:38,440
you know, leading this team. It wasn't like he was

707
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,760
just along for the ride or wasn't a detriment. No,

708
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,480
he was a big, big part of this. I've been

709
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:46,960
so impressed. What's been your takeaways from what he's done

710
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,760
at the quarterback position, what he means to this team

711
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,159
right now?

712
00:36:49,519 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, first of all, he's been extremely accurate,

713
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:55,320
you know, that's been probably the biggest part of it

714
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,400
for him, you know, but his demeanor, it's really interesting.

715
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,639
You know when somebody takes over a job like this

716
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,880
for the first time, you know, you sort of wonder

717
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,880
how they're gonna handle it, right, like this is a

718
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,320
big deal. And and he's he's been just so relaxed.

719
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,440
You know, you kind of think he's from southern California.

720
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,239
You kind of think, like California, cool, so cal kind

721
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,679
of guy, like that's who he is. He doesn't get rattled.

722
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,440
Did throw a pick on the road at Michigan, did

723
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,199
throw a pick early against Indiana. That's really the only

724
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,679
moments of the season where you know, he really wish

725
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,119
he had it back. He's a guy who is more

726
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:35,000
than willing to throw the ball away. So you know,

727
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:37,760
it feels like when he's in these moments in these

728
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,920
big games where sometimes some quarterbacks might force it to

729
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,000
try to make a play, you know, he is absolutely

730
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:47,599
fine throwing the ball into the fifth row and kicking

731
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:49,440
a field goal or giving it a shot on the

732
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,360
next down. So, you know, you want to talk about poise,

733
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,639
I just I think he has so much poise in

734
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:58,280
those situations. And he has obviously two really really good

735
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,079
receivers with him and Jeremiah Smith and Carnel Taate. Especially

736
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:04,360
in the deep balls. He has great deep ball accuracy.

737
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:07,280
One of the reasons why he'll put a little more

738
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,599
air under it, right, He'll give those guys a chance.

739
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:12,280
He doesn't want to, you know, if they if they

740
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,440
get what they want from the defense, they don't want to.

741
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,239
They don't want to flat out miss on that shot, right,

742
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:21,800
Like they don't. They're not necessarily you know, it's not

743
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,960
necessarily a situation like okay, we have to score a

744
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,199
touchdown on his play. They're more than happy to take

745
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,159
a forty yard game if that means that the receiver

746
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,320
you know, has a you know, three steps in the dB.

747
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,960
But then he has to slow down to come back

748
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,480
and catch the ball and it turns out to be

749
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:36,960
a forty yard game. Like they're fine with that. So,

750
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,320
you know, he does little things like that. The coaches

751
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,280
obviously have you know, pushed him to do that, but

752
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,199
he'll he's willing to do those little things that helped

753
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:48,320
the team. So, yeah, it's been good to watch.

754
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:49,599
Speaker 3: You know.

755
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 5: He's also the offensive line has kept him clean through

756
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,559
most of the season. Now, the Indian game was different.

757
00:38:54,559 --> 00:38:57,159
They came into that Big Ten Championship only allowing six

758
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,880
sacks through the first twelve games of the regular season,

759
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,320
and then in that game, Indiana got to him five

760
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,599
different times. So that's certainly a concern going forward, uh,

761
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:11,000
in a big way. But but it's helped that he

762
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:13,840
has had time and he's been able to diagnose and

763
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,400
he doesn't he does a really good job of seeing

764
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,800
what the defense is doing. You know, that's why the

765
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,880
interceptions are pretty rare. So you know, it's been good.

766
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:23,960
He's also you know, he's real coachable too. You know,

767
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,880
he's not he's not necessarily he's not taking a lot

768
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,920
of big chances. You know, he's taking what the defense

769
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,239
gives them. You know, I feel like Ohio State's staff.

770
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,880
You know, obviously they have a you know, great pedigree

771
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,559
on the offensive side of the ball. And uh, and

772
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:39,360
Julian knows that. That's why he wanted to come to

773
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,559
Ohio State, you know, once things at Alabama changed, and

774
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:45,760
you know, so he's come here, he's listened, he's coachable,

775
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,639
and I think that's what you're seeing on the field.

776
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right about that. Great point.

777
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: Uh. Jeremiah Smith was fantastic as a freshman last year.

778
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:58,679
Year two another great year for him. What have you

779
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,440
seen from him in his gruff from year one to

780
00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:01,840
year two?

781
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 5: Here? I think right now he's angry. He's angry he

782
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,360
didn't win the Bolittanikov Award, which you know it could

783
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,079
be an issue for you know, either Texas a and in

784
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:15,119
them or Miami coming up in the thirty first. But

785
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:19,679
you know, the thing the thing about Jeremiah is, you know,

786
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,320
defense is new. He was good and he hurt people

787
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,239
last year, but they are really shifting things his way

788
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,599
this season. So the fact that he's been able to

789
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:33,599
go for more than a thousand yards this season, like

790
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:37,719
he's doing it primarily against double coverage situations, or he's

791
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,440
either in his zone, you know, between the safety and

792
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,199
a corner who's dropping that sort of thing. So so

793
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,239
that's what makes it more impressive this year is that

794
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,079
he's been able to maintain that level of production, but

795
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,760
do it against you know, much harder defensive setups. You know,

796
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,679
I think in the playoff last year, he obviously went

797
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,880
off and the Rose Bowl had a great game against Tennessee.

798
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,960
You know, people saw him do that. Than Texas has

799
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:02,440
a great plan for him in the Cotton Bowl. I

800
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,840
think he had one catch in that game, if I

801
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,599
remember right. So you know, I think people certainly have

802
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:09,400
looked at what Texas has done and they've tried to,

803
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,920
you know, pick up some things emulate that a little bit.

804
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,559
But yeah, Jeremiah has been great. Uh the touchdown he

805
00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:17,320
scored against Michigan, you know that was that was one

806
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,679
on one coverage, you know, I mean there are times

807
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,800
where he gets one on one coverage. It was a

808
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,440
slant and go. It was, you know, they needed five

809
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:26,840
yards on that play and so the slant was right

810
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,880
at the sticks. The dB thought that's what you know,

811
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,039
they were going to do, and then he you know,

812
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:33,559
took off. So yeah, it's been fun to watch. But

813
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,920
back to what I originally said, he doesn't post a

814
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,719
lot on social media, but he did the night of

815
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,760
the College Football Awards, the night that he did not

816
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,960
win the bulletan cough. I mean my opinion personally, like

817
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:52,000
Ohio State's offense benefit. Everybody in the offense benefits from

818
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:55,960
Jeremiah Smith because of all the attention that that he attracts.

819
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,480
Julian benefits, Carnell Tate benefits, the learning like everybody benefits.

820
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,760
And when people, you know, through the season, there was

821
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,800
a time where Jeremiah and Julian were both you know,

822
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:10,119
right in that conversation to win the Heisman, and and

823
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:16,119
I felt throughout that throughout that time that Jeremiah was more,

824
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,320
you know, was the was the guy who should win

825
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,480
it because of how he helps all of his teammates out.

826
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,559
You know, there's more to it than his numbers. So

827
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,000
I don't know, I'm hoping that he has a big

828
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:32,760
showing here down the stretch because he deserves it. He's

829
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,800
really done a ton, like I said, for this team.

830
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. Let me talk about that

831
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:38,639
defense here.

832
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: A lot has been made about the job Matt Patricia

833
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,280
has done coming in taking over this defense, Jim Knowles

834
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,440
leaves and goes to Penn State, and they have not

835
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,800
missed a beat. They have been even better than what

836
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,119
they were arguably the best defense in all college football

837
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:58,519
this year. Give me your thoughts from what we've seen

838
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:01,119
from from Matt Patricia, how he's been able to get

839
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:01,639
it done here.

840
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the most impressive performance by

841
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,239
this Ohio State defense was in the only game that

842
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,960
they lost this season against the high powered Indiana offense

843
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,519
that you know, scored more than fifty points over and

844
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:16,599
over and over again. Against Ohio State, they only scored

845
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:19,199
thirteen points, but that was enough to win that game.

846
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:22,760
So you know, it's it's been and you know, you

847
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,679
wanna talk about like a home run higher. I mean,

848
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:28,039
that's exactly what this was. You know, going back to

849
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:31,960
last year, a week after Ohio State won the national championship,

850
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000
the wheels were in motion for Jim Knowles to go

851
00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:38,119
to Penn State. Even during Ohio State's championship celebration at

852
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:41,880
Ohio Stadium, there was that situation was going on at

853
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,440
the same time as kind of a cloud over the

854
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,679
whole celebration and all because the defense was so good

855
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,239
last year and you know, obviously you're like, man, we're

856
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,000
gonna you know, lose this defensive coordinator, like that's that's

857
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:55,719
that kind of stinks. You know, that's not good. And

858
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,719
then when Ohio State hired or announced the higher Matt Patricia,

859
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,199
there some hesitation by you know, big groups of this

860
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,440
fan base. You know, people didn't necessarily know what they

861
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,880
were getting because the last thing that most people saw

862
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:12,039
was Matt Patricia as the head coach of the Detroit Lions,

863
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,360
you know, which, yeah, it wasn't great. He was far

864
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,519
more successful as the defensive coordinator with the New England Patriots,

865
00:44:18,519 --> 00:44:22,119
where he won Super Bowls in that role. So so

866
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:26,119
it's been cool to see how much Matt has really

867
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,920
enjoyed college football. It's the first time he's back into

868
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,280
this in like twenty years or more. You know, it's

869
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,280
where he started, right, So it's been kind of cool

870
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,880
for him to reconnect with younger guys. You know, I'll

871
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,159
tell you on Wednesdays throughout the season, you know, we

872
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,079
come over and talk to the players after practice and

873
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,840
you know, some of the guys hang out, some of

874
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,880
the guys get extra work that sort of thing, you know,

875
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,599
while we're doing interviews and all that. But Matt routinely

876
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,719
is just hanging out either coaching guys, chatting with guys,

877
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:01,480
or he's just sitting the waiting for somebody to come

878
00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:03,119
up and talk to him. Could be you know, somebody

879
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:05,119
in the media or whatever. Like like, this is a

880
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:08,960
guy who really enjoys what he's doing. He's not in

881
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,559
a rush to get somewhere, you know, that sort of thing.

882
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:14,679
Like he really enjoys the personal side of it. So

883
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,119
it's been really fun to watch he's listen. He has

884
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:19,760
great relationships with all of these guys on the defense.

885
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:24,079
And let me tell you his h his experience, you know,

886
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:26,360
throughout his career of you know, having some you know,

887
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,079
spending time on the offensive side as well, you know,

888
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,679
and also remember head coach of the Lions, right, So

889
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,719
I mean, obviously he's involved in all of it. Like

890
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,480
he's helping out Ohio State's offensive lineman as well. I mean,

891
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,880
this isn't he is the defensive coordinator, but there's times

892
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,400
where you know, he's helping out folks on the other

893
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,000
side of the ball. So he's had a great impact

894
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:44,280
on this on this team.

895
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah he is. He's been fantastic, no doubt about it.

896
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: So this Saturday, we have the Miami versus Texas A

897
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:56,519
and M game winner heads to Arlington to face Ohio

898
00:45:56,519 --> 00:45:57,880
State in the Cotton Bowl.

899
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: Uh, Joe, what what do you think think of that matchup?

900
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: If if you're Ohio State, do you have a preference

901
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,639
of which team you you rather face here?

902
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,679
Speaker 2: I can't imagine.

903
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: I know that Ohio State's already got a headstart on

904
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,639
tickets because they've known that they're in this game, but

905
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,000
I still can't imagine it being ideal of playing Texas

906
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:18,880
A and M and in Arlington, if that were to

907
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,519
present itself.

908
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's the the overall feel. I mean,

909
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,159
it is a It's a real debate. Uh. These two

910
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:27,480
teams are, you know, pretty similar outside of the fact

911
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:29,880
that the quarterbacks you know, play differently. You know, back

912
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,360
is obviously more of a pocket guy. But yeah, I

913
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:35,920
think it kind of comes down to that. You know,

914
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,559
it was a big win last year beating Texas in

915
00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:41,920
Texas in the Cotton Bowl. Uh, to sort of go

916
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:44,840
through that again. You know, certainly they can do it,

917
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,079
no question about it, But I don't think that's exactly

918
00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:49,079
how you would draw it up. I think it'd be

919
00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:54,480
nice to play Florida in Texas instead, But uh, you know,

920
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:57,599
two talented football teams. You know, it feels like they're

921
00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:01,360
pretty similar. So in terms of the and that part

922
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,840
of it, I don't really know if there's a you know,

923
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,559
a big difference between these two teams. And personally I

924
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:11,599
feel good about Ohio State's chances against either team. Yeah.

925
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:13,320
I mean, we've seen some issues with Texas A and

926
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,199
M's defense as of late, so maybe there'll be some

927
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:22,000
opportunity there, But I don't know either way, feel pretty

928
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,840
good about it. I think this Ohio State team is

929
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,840
gonna be focused, They're gonna be dialed in, and they're

930
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,679
gonna be ready to go.

931
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: We're talking about Indiana earlier.

932
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: With Ohio State, how do you think they compare to

933
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,199
the other teams in this playoff? When we talk you know, Georgia,

934
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,559
who they could be facing in the Fiesta Bowl potentially

935
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:44,199
or maybe even if it's a Texas Tech International Championship game, how.

936
00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: Do you think they compare with with this playoff field?

937
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,719
Do you think they're as good as anybody right now in.

938
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 5: Terms of Ohio State. Yeah, no, for sure. I feel

939
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,880
like Ohio State is in the conversation with you know,

940
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:59,039
with Georgia, with Indiana. You know, we'll see what happens

941
00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:07,039
with Alabama, Oklahom. You know, Texas Tech is interesting. But yeah,

942
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:08,960
I mean, I think Ohio State has as good of

943
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,960
a chance as anybody of winning this thing. You know,

944
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,800
I think they learned some things about themselves in that

945
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,639
Indiana game. The Hoosiers were great at the line of scrimmage. Like,

946
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,519
I mean, it was really impressive. All High State played

947
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:23,039
Indiana last year at the Shoe. That was not the deal.

948
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:25,400
Ohigo State controlled the line of scrimmage in this game,

949
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,679
it was. It was a much more even situation, and

950
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,480
at times Indiana certainly won with those five sacks as well.

951
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:35,679
So I think that you know, the buck, guys, you're

952
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,119
using this time to go to work to become a

953
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:40,239
better football team, going to work on the things that

954
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,159
they need to do, because you're gonna deal with obviously

955
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:46,360
three extremely good football teams if they're able to win

956
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,719
these first two games, and and it's just you know,

957
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,480
it's a different deal, man, It's it's a grind at

958
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,039
this point. But they went through it last year. They

959
00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:59,159
have valuable experience from that, and you know, I think

960
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:01,840
that'll play a role when it all when all picks

961
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,440
off for the buck guys on the thirty first.

962
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait to see how it all unfolds. Joe,

963
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,719
You're gonna be covering it all. You know, you're headed

964
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,760
to Arlington here in a couple of weeks for New

965
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,679
Year's Eve and then potentially the Fiesta Bowl in the

966
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:17,800
National Championship.

967
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: Tell me about this. How excited are you for this run?

968
00:49:20,639 --> 00:49:21,880
You've been with this.

969
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: Team all year long now now we're finally coming to

970
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:25,679
a crescendo here.

971
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, no doubt about it. It's been a

972
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:32,079
weird year for Ohio State because there was so much

973
00:49:32,119 --> 00:49:34,760
excitement in this offseason leading up to the Week one

974
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,239
game against Texas, which at the time was you know,

975
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:42,559
a massive top five game, and then they won obviously,

976
00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:46,440
and in the moment it felt like a really big

977
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:50,519
win because you know, they replaced eight starters on defense,

978
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:52,800
they have a new quarterback. You know, you didn't know

979
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,320
what was gonna happen. I mean, you want to talk

980
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,360
about going to into a game and not really knowing

981
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,000
what you have and then you know, playing a top

982
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,960
level team who's going to expose you in some ways.

983
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:04,239
You know, that was a really big win in the moment. Obviously,

984
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,440
the season we're on, Texas wasn't exactly what we all

985
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,880
thought they were. And then at the same time, Penn

986
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,800
State started to fall apart late September in October, so

987
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,920
Ohio State, you know, the second biggest game, excuse me,

988
00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:19,480
second biggest game on the schedule on November first was

989
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:21,960
against Penn State. So then you get to November first,

990
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,320
you know, the Texas game wasn't what you thought it was,

991
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:27,320
Penn State not what you think they are. You know,

992
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,239
they win the game handily, and then it's like, all right,

993
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,000
the next the next big game is Michigan, you know,

994
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:35,800
and Michigan, you know, didn't have a great year. I mean,

995
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,840
granted they were fighting for their playoff lives in that

996
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,920
game the final game of the regular season, but you know,

997
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,199
but Michigan, you know, wasn't exactly a contend or to

998
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:47,960
win a national championship. So really the first time that

999
00:50:48,039 --> 00:50:51,599
Ohio State you know, played a top five team was

1000
00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:55,199
that Indiana game. So we've been kind of waiting, you know,

1001
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,000
for these massive games. We thought we kind of had

1002
00:50:58,039 --> 00:51:00,199
one of them in Texas, didn't really turn out that way.

1003
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,440
So yeah, now it's finally going to get real, and

1004
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:06,320
I mean it's gonna be cool. I'm really curious to

1005
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,000
see if this team and go back to back. Ohio

1006
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:10,000
State has never had a team go back to back.

1007
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,239
The loss against Indiana could, you know, be a blessing

1008
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,199
in some ways, because you know, they won the four

1009
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,880
straight games in the playoff last year. You know, ran

1010
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,519
the table through the twelve games of the regular season,

1011
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:24,320
so that's sixteen games straight, sixteen game winning street going

1012
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,920
in that Big Ten championship. If you beat Indiana, that's

1013
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,880
seventeenth straight. And then you're trying you get to the playoff,

1014
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,000
and now you're trying to win an eighteenth, nineteenth, and

1015
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:35,679
twentieth straight game to win back to back national championships.

1016
00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:38,639
So you're talking about winning of those twenty games, you're

1017
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:43,559
talking about winning twenty seven of those twenty games, Yeah,

1018
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:46,960
are playoff games. So I mean it's just that's a tall,

1019
00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:50,159
tall task, you know, tall task. So you know, in

1020
00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:53,880
a way, this loss against Indiana might help them. We'll

1021
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,320
find out.

1022
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: I know that two of their most recent you know

1023
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:02,280
follows when we talk about biggest threats in the Big ten,

1024
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,079
you know, in the last couple of years, you would

1025
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:07,760
say Indiana and Oregon, But traditionally speaking of course, Michigan

1026
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,880
and Penn State and them going through their turmoil and

1027
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,599
their coaching changes. Penn State's got Matt Campbell now, which

1028
00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:16,280
I do think was a good hire. Michigan trying to

1029
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,199
figure out their situation post your own more this is

1030
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:21,159
for buck guys.

1031
00:52:21,519 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: I know, they got their own good thing going off,

1032
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,320
you know, the playoffs ahead. But is there some snickering?

1033
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: Is there kind of some laughter going on of seeing

1034
00:52:29,159 --> 00:52:31,360
some of the biggest rivals falter this way and going

1035
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,280
through these changes here?

1036
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. You know, when it

1037
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:40,840
comes to Penn State, you know, Ohio State Faith look

1038
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,280
at that as a rivalry, a lot of respect for

1039
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,440
what that program is.

1040
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:45,119
Speaker 4: You know.

1041
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 5: James Franklin, you know, obviously can be a controversial figure.

1042
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,880
So you know, I think that amps up the rivalry

1043
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,599
part of it. Obviously, great coach, you know, one great

1044
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:59,119
team after another. So yeah, the fact that they kind

1045
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:01,840
of struggled, I think, you know, there's a certainly a

1046
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,559
group of Ohio State fans who kind of enjoyed that

1047
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:09,000
a bit. It's interesting. Matt Campbell's from Ohio, played college

1048
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,599
football Mount Union, you know, Division three powerhouse when he

1049
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,599
was there, so you know, it's gonna be interesting to

1050
00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:16,920
see how that plays out. He was a head coach

1051
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,840
at Toledo before Iowa State, so you know, he's an

1052
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:19,480
Ohio guy.

1053
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1054
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 5: I think the reason he wanted the job is it'll

1055
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,119
be closer to family than come see him play more

1056
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:27,440
than head not to ames, so so that's kind of neat.

1057
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,920
So yeah, I don't think the bad blood is going

1058
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,719
to be there. I mean, you know, Penn State takes

1059
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,159
pride in being unrivaled, you know, and and I you

1060
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,239
think Ohio State fans like, come on, man, we're like

1061
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,400
we're rivals, right, And I think that you know, Ohio

1062
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,840
State's dominated the series against Penn State in the Big Ten,

1063
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:47,239
so maybe Penn State folks have you know, kind of

1064
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,440
had enough of it when the Big Ten redid the

1065
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,280
schedules the last a few years ago, you know, with

1066
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,360
the new teams and all that came in, you know,

1067
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,920
they did set aside those rivalry games, you know, kind

1068
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,880
of like the SEC did you set aside some of

1069
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,880
those big time games, and Penn State's the only team

1070
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,880
in the Big Ten that doesn't have a scheduled rival,

1071
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,800
a team that they will play year in and year out,

1072
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,559
which is kind of interesting. So, you know, from an

1073
00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:14,000
Ohio State perspective, we all enjoyed that game and that

1074
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:16,320
won't be happening every single year anymore.

1075
00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: Now.

1076
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:22,639
Speaker 5: In terms of Michigan, which is a totally different anngle, yeah,

1077
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,000
I mean there's so much bad blood. It's it from

1078
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,039
from the Ohio perspective. It's a good versus evil situation

1079
00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:34,000
that all came to light, even more so at the

1080
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,920
Connor Stallions, you know, situation with them illegally stealing signs

1081
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:41,880
versus doing it you know, the Brent Venables way legally

1082
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:47,880
on the so yes, you know, so you know, I

1083
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,199
mean Michigan's had so many coaches arrested, suspended. I mean

1084
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,840
it's been a heck of a run since you know,

1085
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,880
Jim Harbaugh took over that program and they kind of

1086
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,880
found themselves in enoughing to lose situation at least. This

1087
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:04,440
is you know, from the Ohigo perspective. You know Harbaugh,

1088
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:07,360
you know, there weren't a lot of people out there

1089
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,519
looking to hire them five years ago, right, and and

1090
00:55:10,599 --> 00:55:12,559
they needed to get that thing turned around, and it

1091
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:15,039
was kind of at an all cost situation at least

1092
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:18,280
that's how it looks now. So yeah, I mean obviously

1093
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,480
Charon Moore, you know, came from you know, the Harbaugh's

1094
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:24,159
staff and uh, you know, I mean what happened here

1095
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:26,960
in the last couple of weeks is absolutely shocking and

1096
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:32,079
you know, nobody saw anything like that happening. But you know,

1097
00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:37,280
and it's sad too. I can't I'm totally gets distracted. Sorry, Dave,

1098
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,039
my coworker. Uh So, yeah, anyways, back to Sharon, I mean,

1099
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:45,679
obviously that's beyond football, and there's families involved and you know,

1100
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,800
and things like that, children, so it you know, it's

1101
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,840
it's a far more serious situation. But in terms of

1102
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,159
the football situation, yeah, I mean, nobody down here I

1103
00:55:55,159 --> 00:55:57,400
think is uh, you know, has a soft spot for

1104
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,320
Michigan because you know, just i mean just because of

1105
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,400
you know, it just at times it hasn't felt like

1106
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,679
it's been played, you know, evenly. You know, when it

1107
00:56:06,679 --> 00:56:09,800
comes to the sign stealings stuff they didn't play during

1108
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,360
the COVID year. It was Michigan, who you know, had

1109
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,559
COVID and you know, canceled that game. There was no

1110
00:56:14,639 --> 00:56:17,039
question that Ohio State was gonna win that one. So

1111
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,519
you know, Michigan's had the upper hand for four years.

1112
00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:23,280
Ohio State finally, you know, jump back on top here

1113
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,840
a month ago. But I think Ohio State fans aren't

1114
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,239
satisfied with that one win. I think they feel like

1115
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,320
the Buckeyes need to go on on a long winning

1116
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,199
streak against those guys to to kind of get things

1117
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,519
back to where they feel like they should be. So, yeah,

1118
00:56:38,519 --> 00:56:40,400
it's gonna be interesting to see who they hire. I know,

1119
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,719
you know, the President came out and said that, you know, ethics,

1120
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,039
morals like how we do things are going to be

1121
00:56:47,079 --> 00:56:51,440
a priority as we identify a head coach. You know,

1122
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,679
So you know, what does that mean in terms of

1123
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,039
you know, that's winning off the field. What does it

1124
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:57,960
mean in terms of winning on the field? You know,

1125
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:00,280
is can they hire somebody who can do both? So

1126
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,119
I think people here in Columbus are very interested in that.

1127
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,719
In that search in ann Arbor, Yeah.

1128
00:57:06,519 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 2: We'll see how chicks out Joe.

1129
00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:12,039
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, plug away, tell people

1130
00:57:12,039 --> 00:57:13,000
where they can find.

1131
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 2: You and see all your coverage of the Buckeyes.

1132
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:14,599
Speaker 3: Man.

1133
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, so on Twitter, my handle is Joe Nuge j

1134
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:22,760
Oe and you g E. I work here at NBCT

1135
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,079
four in Columbus. We've got an app, the NBC four

1136
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:28,880
Columbus App, that folks can download anywhere in the country,

1137
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:31,280
you know, on like Roku, Apple TV, all that stuff,

1138
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,719
fire sticks, all that. So we do a lot of

1139
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,239
sports content, a lot of higher state content on there

1140
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,440
as well. So yeah, if anybody's looking for Ohio state

1141
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,800
buck guy football talk, you know, it's pretty much what

1142
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:44,039
we do.

1143
00:57:44,719 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: Well. Yes, Joe, great stuff, Glad we got the champs.

1144
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: Catch up my friend, enjoy the playoffs and I'm sure

1145
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,079
we'll talk in down the line.

1146
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, good to see you, Good to talk to you. You

1147
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,079
have a great one.