1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Stories version of The Todd Herman Show. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,759 Story number one a pop culture beloved Marxist philosopher on parenting. 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:15,279 Story number two, your government says cash is not property, 4 00:00:15,919 --> 00:00:17,879 so there goes your Fourth Amendment rights to it. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,719 Speaker 2: And story number three JD. 6 00:00:19,879 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: Vance spoke an important Christian concept and so weak Christians 7 00:00:24,839 --> 00:00:28,079 have attacked him. We'll discuss this with the help of 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,359 our YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash at the Todd 9 00:00:30,359 --> 00:00:33,240 Herman Show and under the auspices of God Almighty. 10 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 3: The Todd Herman Show is one hundred percent disapproved. But 11 00:00:38,679 --> 00:00:46,039 big pharma technocrats and Tyrne Sabrian where from the highd 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:54,759 mountains of Free America. Here's the Emerald City exime Todd Herman. 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,399 Speaker 1: Today is a day the Lord has made, and these 14 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:03,200 are the times to which God has decided we should live. 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:10,760 There's all sorts of enthusiasm for a guy who is 16 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:17,879 a he's a Marxist philosopher and he's become this kind 17 00:01:17,879 --> 00:01:20,840 of pop culture hero. He's got a beard and he 18 00:01:20,879 --> 00:01:24,560 looks like the old wise man. His name is Slavo 19 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,319 Zizik or slavvoy Zizek. Is the whoy I'm supposed to 20 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:33,680 pronounce it Slovenian Marxist philosopher, cultural theorist, and public intellectual 21 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,879 cool gig if you can get it. And he had 22 00:01:36,879 --> 00:01:40,040 a discussion going on about parenting, and by this, of 23 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,439 course he's using this as an extension for government, because 24 00:01:44,599 --> 00:01:50,280 in the world of Marxists, government is Papa, and Papa 25 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,400 provides and Papa takes. And if he's a true Marxist, 26 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:57,439 of course, then he denies the existence of God. That's 27 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:01,200 where I have a problem with his analysis of parenting, 28 00:02:01,879 --> 00:02:04,599 because like every other Marxist, there has to be a dialectic. 29 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:08,080 There cannot be a shade of gray, there cannot be 30 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,639 a wise mind. It needs to be either this or that. 31 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,439 So he talks about authoritarian parenting versus permissive parenting, and 32 00:02:16,479 --> 00:02:20,000 of course he covers permissive parenting in the least charitable 33 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,919 way possible. So I want you to see this, and 34 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,680 then let's see where does God's word fit into this, 35 00:02:26,159 --> 00:02:28,639 because of course God is the ultimate parent, and if 36 00:02:28,719 --> 00:02:30,919 it's is, it doesn't fit in there anywhere at all. 37 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,520 It can't because God could have that annoying thing of 38 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:39,439 replacing government. Just in fact, God, you designed us, and 39 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,599 God designed us with signals, Signals like you listen to 40 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:46,080 this guy speaking, man, I'm getting a creep factor. I 41 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,240 sometimes get that creep factor on people. God designed us 42 00:02:49,319 --> 00:02:53,639 with signals like hey, maybe stop holding that pan because 43 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,080 it's hot and you're going to burn yourself. Signals you 44 00:02:57,159 --> 00:03:00,800 need to sleep signals. If you've been getting a signal 45 00:03:01,199 --> 00:03:04,960 like leg and foot swelling, if you've been getting signals 46 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,599 like joint pain, you've been getting signals like having poor memory, 47 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,199 you've been getting signals like, man, I need to nap 48 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,800 during the day constantly. I can take a nap every 49 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,240 three or four hours. 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Here's a Marxist 81 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,720 philosopher talking about parenting and rememberies doing this, he really 82 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,480 means government. 83 00:05:16,959 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 4: Imagine you are a small girl or boy of let's 84 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,759 say eight years, It's Sunday afternoon, and your father wants 85 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:29,000 you to visit your old grandmother. Then, if you have 86 00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:33,759 an old authoritarian father, he will tell you listen, I 87 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,319 don't care how you feel. Let's do your duty. Go 88 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,040 to your grandmother and behave there properly. That's perfect, I claim, 89 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,439 because you will retain your let's call it in a freedom. 90 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:50,040 You will be furious at your father. That's good for 91 00:05:50,079 --> 00:05:53,160 your long term freedom and so on. Now, what would 92 00:05:53,639 --> 00:05:58,959 a monster called postmodern permissive father do. He would not 93 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,040 give you an order, but he would have told you 94 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:06,000 something like this. You only go to visit your grandmother 95 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,079 if you really want it. Just remember how much your 96 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,959 grandmother loves you. Now, a child is not an idiot, 97 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,120 and he or she will know perfectly what this order means. 98 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:22,120 Beneath the appearance of a free choice, it gives you 99 00:06:22,439 --> 00:06:27,240 a much harsher choice order. The order is not only 100 00:06:27,319 --> 00:06:30,639 you must go and visit your grandmother, but you must 101 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,199 do it freely. You must really wish to visit your grandmother. 102 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,360 She see this nice example of how where the apparent 103 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:47,360 freedom of choice masks a much harsher, a much harser choice. 104 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: Fascinating that he values internal freedom. I mean, you can 105 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,000 think whatever you want, you just can't do whatever you 106 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:59,199 want over actual freedom. Do whatever you want. But he 107 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:04,240 presents the tile, so doesn't need to be dialectic. 108 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: It could be this. 109 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,279 Speaker 1: That the Bible would suggest that we raise our kids 110 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:16,240 as a Christian body. It would suggest that we gather 111 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:20,120 regularly together. It wouldn't suggest it, it prescribes it. Or 112 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,279 to gather regularly together, or to respect our parents so 113 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:27,040 that it goes well for us in life. Fathers are 114 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:28,879 not to aggravate their kids or drive them to anger. 115 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:31,000 The Bible tells us this, but it shows us something else. 116 00:07:31,959 --> 00:07:36,480 God is the ultimate father. So a parent who's going 117 00:07:36,519 --> 00:07:40,759 to walk what we would call post teen adolescent family 118 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,319 mental health, there is this position called wise mind. It's 119 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:48,279 neither authoritarian or permissive. It's in the middle. That the 120 00:07:48,399 --> 00:07:52,680 parent who is being a good Christian parent might confess 121 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:58,680 to the kids. Sometimes I don't feel like praying. Sometimes 122 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,079 I just don't feel like being God's Word. 123 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: But I know this. 124 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: I know God loves me so much, and I know 125 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,360 that when I spend time as word, I feel more 126 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:12,240 love for Him. And I know that God can be hurt. 127 00:08:12,759 --> 00:08:17,800 I mean, Jesus wept. God is a jealous God. He 128 00:08:17,839 --> 00:08:20,279 wants us near him were his kids. He loves us, 129 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:23,639 he wants us near him. Sometimes I don't feel like 130 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:29,399 visiting Grandma either. I go because God is always here 131 00:08:29,439 --> 00:08:33,000 for us. I go because in doing this I honor God. 132 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,759 And often when I go, I realize, you know what, 133 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,840 wasn't that I didn't want to see my mom said, 134 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:41,519 I really really didn't want to have to tell her 135 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,039 some things or you know what, My mom's fun, So 136 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,120 it was a little bit of aggravation. She's my parent 137 00:08:47,159 --> 00:08:52,000 after all, but mom can be fun. So we're serving 138 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,000 not ourselves, We're serving others. 139 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: We seek to serve, not be served. 140 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: We're serving the ultimate authority, God, and we're asking him 141 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,399 to make us like him, which is something he promises 142 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,320 to do. So over time, those visits can become more 143 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,679 and more joyful as God and the Holy Spirit interact 144 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,200 between us, so you can present it that way, and yeah, 145 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,440 you can still say yeah you're going, and understand that 146 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,000 you don't want to, so like sometimes I don't want 147 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,919 to pray, but you are going, then afterwards you can 148 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,960 talk about it. That's a wise mynd position. Marxists hate 149 00:09:29,039 --> 00:09:34,519 wise mind because Marxists and Marxism are built upon reactions, 150 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,639 emotional actions. 151 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: It's not fair. 152 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: And the authoritarian parent he describes there is the course government. 153 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,879 Oh sure you can hate us, but you're still going 154 00:09:47,919 --> 00:09:49,919 to do what we tell you to do. Is it 155 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,399 any mystery that he's become a pop culture sort of 156 00:09:53,639 --> 00:09:57,399 icon to people who are seeking something greater themselves, just 157 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:58,639 as long as it's not gone. 158 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: Sorry Number two, your government. 159 00:10:03,879 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: Says cash is not property, so no Fourth Amendment rights 160 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,360 for you. That's pretty extraordinary. It makes sense though, given 161 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:17,559 what we're learning from the Department of Government Efficiency and 162 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,879 how they view our money, or rather the digits, the 163 00:10:19,919 --> 00:10:23,440 made up digits that are supposed to be money. Elon 164 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:28,639 Musk's Department of Governed Efficiency team has found out that 165 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:35,159 the Treasury has literally never ever failed to make a payment. 166 00:10:35,159 --> 00:10:40,120 They've literally never denied a payment even when according to 167 00:10:40,159 --> 00:10:43,320 the Department of Government Efficiency and Elon Musk, even when 168 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,440 they're sending digits fake cash with real implications for us 169 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,799 because it comes out of our bank accounts, eventually out 170 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:53,399 of our hands. Even when these are going to known 171 00:10:53,840 --> 00:11:00,200 fraudulent organizations, known to be fraudulent. I mean, look back 172 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,039 through the period of time when the government had enforced 173 00:11:04,039 --> 00:11:08,360 these lockdowns. Look back through what happened with unapployment in 174 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,960 countries like Washington State. 175 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: A billion bucks out the door. 176 00:11:12,639 --> 00:11:15,919 Speaker 1: To Nigerian hackers, we were told, except they didn't have 177 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,039 to hack anything because someone in Washington State turned off 178 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,279 all the fraud prevention techniques. Simple off the shelf fraud 179 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,960 prevention techniques like hey, for handing out a billion dollars, 180 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,720 let's make sure that that's not all going to the 181 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:33,960 same bank accounts. Any off the shelf fraud prevention software 182 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,240 would stop that. Someone turned it off, Well, they got 183 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,679 like a half a billion back, where's the other half billion? 184 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,519 Massive amounts of money hidden it incompetence can create opportunities 185 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,720 for massive amounts of fraud. Robbie Starbuck points out that 186 00:11:50,759 --> 00:11:55,159 the highest ranking treasure official, David A. Lebric, resigned rather 187 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,320 than complying with the request by the Department of Government 188 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,399 Efficiency to audits where they've spent trillions of dollars per year. 189 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,440 It's not like Musk can get in there and spend it. 190 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,879 He just wants to see where it's being spent. But 191 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:12,039 to a government who doesn't consider our cash to be property, 192 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,440 they consider us to be property. This all makes sense. 193 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,279 I'll tell you about that in the second. My friend 194 00:12:18,279 --> 00:12:21,399 Tim Krukshank, the founder and CEO Bone Frog Coffee, fought 195 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,440 Warris on behalf of a country that looks to be 196 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:27,200 secreting our money away to people who don't deserve it. 197 00:12:27,879 --> 00:12:29,639 I have to ask Tim one day again, Hey, would 198 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:30,320 you serve again? 199 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,759 Speaker 2: He said he would. 200 00:12:32,039 --> 00:12:33,519 Speaker 1: I was worried that there's going to reach his time 201 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:35,159 where men like Tim and say, yeah, it's gotten bad 202 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,480 enough that I'm not going to serve. He told me, yeah, absolutely, 203 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,519 I go back in. He's really happy about the new administration. 204 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,960 He's really happy with the changees he's seeing, and of 205 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,919 course he's hoping it's good things for his business. 206 00:12:45,639 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: Tim's business bone. 207 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,919 Speaker 1: Frog Coffee and bone Frog sellers honors Navy seals. Obviously, 208 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,440 Tim was a Navy seal. He did three deployments on 209 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,639 our behalf. He was a medic attached to the seal teams. 210 00:12:55,399 --> 00:12:57,759 So of course he's wanting good things for the Armed forces. 211 00:12:57,799 --> 00:13:00,440 He's wanting good things for the economy, and he honors 212 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,840 the Armed Forces and everything he does not just with 213 00:13:02,919 --> 00:13:05,320 God Country team on the bags, which a rushers God 214 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,559 Country team team work. He also considers family to be team. 215 00:13:10,279 --> 00:13:15,240 He also hires veterans whenever he can, an even active military. 216 00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:18,120 A guy named Atticus who's worked for Tim, I think 217 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,480 it's this week he leaves for boot camp and then 218 00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:24,519 he's been called up to buds an opportunity to go 219 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,519 become a Navy seal. I don't think this guy could 220 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,919 work for someone better than Tim who could coach him 221 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,440 through the whole process. As they're making coffee together. And 222 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:33,639 Tim doesn't just hire soldiers. He knows he needs to 223 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:36,120 have great coffee, so he works with Dave Stewart, who 224 00:13:36,159 --> 00:13:38,799 started Seattle's Best Coffee, to create many of the roasts 225 00:13:38,799 --> 00:13:40,639 and mentors the team on the rest of them. So, 226 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,919 whether it's wine, which is Bonefrogsellers dot Com slash Todd, 227 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:47,039 go there. If your wine drinker get ten percent off 228 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,559 from me. Bonefrog Sellers dot com slash todd. Ten percent 229 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,039 of proceeds go to the Navy Seal Foundation or coffee, 230 00:13:53,039 --> 00:13:56,600 which is what I drink. Bonefrogcoffee dot Com slash todd. 231 00:13:56,799 --> 00:14:01,279 Ten percent off your first purchase, fifteen percent subscription Coffee 232 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,279 God Country Team on both the wines and the coffees. 233 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,240 Bonefog Coffee dot Com slash todd, Bonefog Sellers. 234 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: Dot com slash todd. 235 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: This comes from Reason magazine, which was so so wrong 236 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,039 in many many things during the Biden administration, but so 237 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:20,360 right on things like property seizure. The government says money 238 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:23,840 isn't property. This comes from Reason magazine and a jaw 239 00:14:23,919 --> 00:14:27,039 dropping Department of Justice claims seizing fifty thousand dollars from 240 00:14:27,039 --> 00:14:30,600 a small business doesn't violate property rights because money isn't property. 241 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:33,840 And this is the piece by Rob Johnson. As a 242 00:14:33,919 --> 00:14:36,399 lawyer who sues the government, you get used to different 243 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,240 kinds of arguments that government lawyers used to justify abuses 244 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,679 of individual rights, sweeping claims of government power, bad faith, 245 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,720 procedural obstacles. 246 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:44,559 Speaker 3: And more. 247 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: This is a new one. 248 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: The United States Department of Justice argued that confiscating fifty 249 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,080 thousand dollars from a small business did not infringe the 250 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,120 business owner's right to private property because money is not property. 251 00:14:58,799 --> 00:15:03,879 Quote Money's not necessar c'sily property for constitutional purposes. The 252 00:15:03,919 --> 00:15:07,559 government's brief declared, putting the very idea of property in 253 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,799 square quotes. Reading at my desk, I practically fell out 254 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,519 of my chair. The doj gave three rationales for the argument, 255 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:18,840 all packed into one doorstopper of a footnote. One, the 256 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,720 government creates money, so you can't own it. Two, the 257 00:15:21,759 --> 00:15:23,960 government can tax your money, so you don't own it. 258 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,080 Three the constitutionals government to spend money for the general welfare. 259 00:15:29,919 --> 00:15:33,120 If a libertarian writer was asked to write a satire 260 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,480 of government lawyers briefs, this is what they might come 261 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:37,759 up with. But there it was, in black and white. 262 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,960 When the government says things like this, do you notice 263 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,840 that they forget a key aspect of our society. We're 264 00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:49,279 told constantly, but you are the government. Oh yeah, there's 265 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:54,799 that annoying phrase. We the people, we are governed at 266 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:58,559 the consent of the government, which can be withdrawn when 267 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,919 you start saying that the device we've decided to use 268 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:07,519 to acquire property is not property. You're getting very very 269 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:14,120 close to saying something like you are property, because if 270 00:16:14,159 --> 00:16:17,480 we can just take from you your life's energy stored, 271 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:19,639 in this case, in the financial device we have a 272 00:16:19,639 --> 00:16:23,240 society has decided to use, then you are really property 273 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,960 to your own government. That's probably been a good place 274 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,600 to go if you value freedom or peace. Senator Mike Johnson, 275 00:16:31,399 --> 00:16:35,360 speaking of money and speaking of property and speaking of government, 276 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,639 has decided to look into where our money went, well, 277 00:16:39,879 --> 00:16:42,480 not our property, mind you, the money that government lets 278 00:16:42,559 --> 00:16:46,080 us touch, or it ended up in the hands of 279 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,240 Joe Biden's family and that of Anthony Fauciuh. 280 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 5: It was shocking. I mean it was. It was shocking 281 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:55,639 what President Biden did on the way out, pardoning his 282 00:16:55,679 --> 00:16:58,720 family for more than a decade of whatever activity, any 283 00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:01,519 non violent offenses. It was breadthtaking to us. I don't 284 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:04,519 think that's anything like that's ever been anticipated. And by 285 00:17:04,519 --> 00:17:06,680 the way, go look at the tape. You know, four 286 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:10,079 years ago, when it was just implied that President Trump 287 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,680 might do something similar, they were apoplectic. Joe Biden himself, 288 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:17,680 Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer, roll the tape. They all said 289 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,119 that would be crazy and unconscionable, and now they're cheering 290 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,400 it along. It's to us, it is disgusting to us. 291 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,880 It probably proves the point the suspicion that you know, 292 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,160 they call it the Biden crime family. If they weren't 293 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,119 the crime family, why do they need pardons? Right, Look, 294 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,759 there's a lot of attention that's going to be paid 295 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:37,039 to this, and I think that is appropriate, and we 296 00:17:37,079 --> 00:17:38,319 will be looking at it as well. 297 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,559 Speaker 1: So we will be looking at it. How About we've 298 00:17:42,599 --> 00:17:46,200 already looked at it. How about Peter Schweizer has documented it. 299 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,599 How About the DOJ had enough to indict the figure out, 300 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,440 but they simply said he was too old and feeble 301 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,559 to do it. So let's stop looking at it, let's 302 00:17:54,599 --> 00:17:59,559 start doing it. Let's actually get after the indictments. Oh 303 00:17:59,599 --> 00:18:03,519 it's right, the pardons. Oh that's right. Oh darn the luck. 304 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,799 If only there was a tool we could use to, 305 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,920 let's say, force them to decide between telling the truth 306 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:20,039 or going to jail or taking the fifth and embarrassing themselves. Oh, 307 00:18:20,079 --> 00:18:24,519 that's right. There is subpoenis. There's also all the people 308 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,000 who knew that the money was fraud. There's all the 309 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,079 people who surrounded that there's a people who paid it, 310 00:18:31,319 --> 00:18:34,680 we can go after them, and we should and take 311 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:39,039 their money. After all, it's not property. 312 00:18:39,799 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: Story number three. JD. 313 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: Vance went out and spoke a pretty important Christian concept 314 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:50,440 and so weak Christians attacked him. He was talking with 315 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,680 Sean Hannity and the topic of course of immigration came 316 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:57,720 up because of immigration enforcement and teachers and hospital workers 317 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:58,799 all saying, oh Ice. 318 00:18:58,680 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: Isn't coming in here. 319 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,079 Speaker 1: I die first. There's now a ring door bell app 320 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,160 you can use to communicate ices in the neighborhood. We've 321 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,559 had activist reporters going out and announcing the location of ice, 322 00:19:10,599 --> 00:19:14,279 where they're making raids, etc. We've had weeping celebrities weeping 323 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,720 on behalf of cartel members being sent out of the country, 324 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,000 but not weeping on behalf of families who've been destroyed 325 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,559 by cartel members. And a lot of this is coming 326 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:26,799 into news focus because President Trump is keeping a campaign promise. 327 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:30,559 It drives people nuts. He's also keeping a promise in 328 00:19:30,599 --> 00:19:34,400 regards to what economic pressure can do. We'll get into 329 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,519 what JD. Vance said here, but this broke just as 330 00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:39,759 we were sitting down and record the program. President Trump 331 00:19:39,799 --> 00:19:44,279 posted this on True Social I just spoke with President 332 00:19:44,319 --> 00:19:48,559 Claudia Shinebaumb of Mexico. It was a very friendly conversation 333 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,200 wherein she agreed to immediately supply ten thousand Mexican soldiers 334 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,400 in the border separating Mexico the United States. These soldiers 335 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,200 will be specifically designated to stop the flow of fentanyl 336 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,319 and illegal migrants into our country. We further agreed to 337 00:20:01,319 --> 00:20:04,640 immediately pause the anticipated tariffs for one month period, during 338 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,240 which she will have negotiations headed by Secretarif of State 339 00:20:07,279 --> 00:20:10,920 Mark or Rubio, Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessett, Secretary 340 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,200 of Commerce Howard Lutnik, and high level representatives of Mexico. 341 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:17,920 I look forward to participating those negotiations with President Scheinbaum 342 00:20:18,079 --> 00:20:20,480 as we attempt to achieve a deal between our two countries. 343 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,759 President Trump went all in on tariffs, and the President 344 00:20:25,759 --> 00:20:30,519 of Mexico said, I fold, that's a pretty charitable way 345 00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:35,519 of looking at it. It's also pretty accurate. Since President 346 00:20:35,519 --> 00:20:40,119 Trump said that and posted that, social media blew up 347 00:20:41,319 --> 00:20:44,680 right wing people saying look here he's proven himself. 348 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:45,599 Speaker 2: Right left wing. 349 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:50,599 Speaker 1: Saying great, now we have two armies facing off against 350 00:20:50,599 --> 00:20:53,440 each other. I would rather have the actual official Mexican 351 00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:57,200 army across the border than are troops or Department of 352 00:20:57,279 --> 00:21:01,400 Human Security officials being shot at by drug cartels has 353 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,599 happened about two weeks ago, actually fired at our troops. 354 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:09,920 So this is then a basis for this immigration discussion. 355 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,960 It's a basis for this conversation that is the immigration 356 00:21:13,079 --> 00:21:17,000 enforcement that JD. Vance had with Sean Hannity where they 357 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,160 talked about a Christian concept. It's an important concept and 358 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,599 I'll share this with you in a second, just after 359 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,359 i tell you about a common blessing that God has 360 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,680 provided us to help address a common issue. The common 361 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,200 blessings that God provides the just and the unjust, or. 362 00:21:31,279 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: Water, air, heat, right, it is the way that we live. 363 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: He's given us the tools to live as human beings 364 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:40,319 and our bodies who need these things. As society has 365 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,799 moved past the convenience of eating foods the way God 366 00:21:43,799 --> 00:21:46,079 presented them, you know, picking an apple off a tree 367 00:21:46,079 --> 00:21:49,200 and eating it, taking an animal's life and then preparing 368 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,839 the animal, all of the processed foods have washed out 369 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,480 certain truly important nutrients that are easy enough to overlook 370 00:21:56,559 --> 00:21:59,599 until you really need them. So magnesium is one of 371 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,119 the most common shortages people have in this country. Eighty 372 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,279 percent of us are short on magnesium, which is a 373 00:22:05,279 --> 00:22:07,039 great big So what until you start to do a 374 00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:11,640 self analysis? Are you regular right in the bathroom? I 375 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,640 know it's an uncomfortable topic. I hate it myself, but 376 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,640 if you are not, You're gonna notice feelings of bloat. 377 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,839 You're gonna notice feelings of ill health, of discomfort, and 378 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,079 inability to sleep through the night because constantly your bodies going. 379 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,640 We got to get this out. Magnesium, all seven forms, 380 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,759 addresses six hundred body interactions, either regulates them or drives them. 381 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Regularity is one, Stress is another. If you find your 382 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:43,000 self constantly surfing on stress, you are also probably constantly 383 00:22:43,039 --> 00:22:47,720 storing fat because the hormone that creates stress in our bodies, cortisol, 384 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,119 also causes us to store fat. And if this adds 385 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,359 up to you getting in bed at night all bloated, 386 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,839 no one, you're gonna get up five times throughout the 387 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,160 night and go to the bathroom knowing streak is going 388 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,400 to be a struggle, knowing that you're amped. What if 389 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,160 there was a simple way to address this? There is 390 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,839 go to bip demizers dot com, slash Todd and I 391 00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:10,920 think you'll have the same experience I've had with magnesium 392 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:17,839 breakthrough feeling relaxation, less stress, former regularity, and the ability 393 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:24,039 to have that unbelievable pleasure of falling into sleep. When 394 00:23:24,039 --> 00:23:26,000 I do wake up, I go right back to sleep. 395 00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:29,039 It's a huge change. So have it for yourself. Go 396 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,119 to bip demizers dot com slash todd. Use promo code 397 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,400 Todd to get tempercent off all the products there. I 398 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,160 suggest you subscribe to the products because when you subscribe, 399 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,599 you get exclusive discounts, exclusive information, and exclusive free gifts. 400 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,839 Bib deemisers dot com slash todd. This is jdie Vance 401 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,680 talking with Sean Hannity over some of the attacks that 402 00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:52,319 the left has levied on him. One of the big 403 00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:54,960 attacks is, hey, if you're not for open borders, then 404 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,440 you hate all the bipocks. 405 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,759 Speaker 6: But there's this old school, and I think it's a 406 00:23:58,839 --> 00:24:02,000 very Christian concept by the way, that you love your family, 407 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,079 and then you love your neighbor, and then you love 408 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,920 your community, and then you love your fellow citizens in 409 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,039 your own country, and then after that you can focus 410 00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:13,680 and prioritize the rest of the world. A lot of 411 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,400 the far left has completely inverted that they seem to 412 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,119 hate the citizens of their own country and care more 413 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,920 about people outside their own borders. 414 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 2: That is no way to run a society. 415 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,279 Speaker 6: And I think the profound difference that Donald Trump brings 416 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,279 to the leadership of this country is that the simple 417 00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:32,680 concept America first. It doesn't mean you hate anybody else. 418 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,799 It means that you have leadership. And President Trump has 419 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,480 been very clear about this that puts the interests of 420 00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:42,000 American citizens first, in the same way that the British 421 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,440 Prime Minister should care about Brits and the French should 422 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,839 care about the French. We have an American president who 423 00:24:46,839 --> 00:24:50,400 cares primarily about Americans, and that's a very welcome change. 424 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: What is President Shade doing? What is with a lot 425 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,559 of American people looking after the Chinese? 426 00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 6: Putin is looking after the Russians that they're entitled to 427 00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:58,720 do that. Thank God, we now have an American president 428 00:24:58,759 --> 00:25:01,039 who's looking after the citizens of his own country. 429 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,559 Speaker 1: That is, of course what President Trump has been hired 430 00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:07,119 to do. He is our common employee. Now he's talking 431 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,880 here about a concept because he's been challenged on this. Oh, 432 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,119 I see, some Christian you are right, we got ours. 433 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,720 So other people can go get theirs. And I've saw 434 00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:19,200 this meme going around it's the Jdvans Jesus. So it's 435 00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:21,759 Jesus Christ with the Jadvans T shirt that says on it, 436 00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:25,480 I got mine, you get yours. Well, that's not what 437 00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:29,240 he means, obviously, So is there biblical defense for this? 438 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: Now? 439 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: Admittedly this comes from my church where left Ministries and Postwolds, Idaho, 440 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,680 and God has blessed us to work through us to 441 00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:39,599 found and plan a bunch of different churches around the country. 442 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,960 And it comes from two sources. It comes from John 443 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,599 in Ephesians. That's in the Bible, by the way, for 444 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,440 those who don't know, and it lays out what we 445 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:54,319 call this five spears. So we start in John fifteen, 446 00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:56,880 verses four through six, where we're told to abide in Christ. 447 00:25:58,079 --> 00:26:01,799 That's where this all begins. See, Jesus had not come yet. 448 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,240 The world was a mess. The world still a mess. 449 00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:07,839 But Jesus was new in the New Testament, so abiding 450 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,599 in him was a new thing. People didn't have the 451 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,000 opportunity to do that before. So as we abide in Christ, 452 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:18,000 that means we walk with him. That's where this all starts. Secondly, 453 00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:20,799 if you look at this these fears. You've got abiding, 454 00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:22,559 You've got the world, you've got the home and the family, 455 00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:25,160 and you've got the spiritual realm. One of these things 456 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:30,720 did not exist. Jesus created the church. It didn't exist. Yes, 457 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,640 there were temples, but it was very different. Jesus did 458 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,799 not conceive of the church as a place you visited. 459 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,680 It's a thing we are together. We are the church. 460 00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:45,119 Yes there are buildings, but we're to gather together regularly. 461 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,000 That did not exist. So if you're going in order, 462 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,279 you start with abiding in Christ. By abiding in Christ. 463 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,599 Part of abiding in Christ, this new thing is to 464 00:26:56,599 --> 00:27:00,160 be part of a church environment, a church body. We 465 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,119 are not someone who visits church. We are the church, 466 00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:07,240 which leads us to family. Why did Jesus create the church. 467 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:12,000 Jesus created the church because families were not being properly raised. 468 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,839 Men did not truly understand their role to come under 469 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:18,480 their wife and lift up. 470 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: Just as the wife comes under, the husband lifts up. 471 00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: Fathers are to abide with Christ, to love their wives 472 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:32,240 as Christ so loved the church. Women are to follow 473 00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:37,759 the spiritual lead of their husbands, and their husbands are 474 00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:41,640 following the spiritual lead of Jesus Christ. And that's a real, 475 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:43,720 real hard thing for a lot of young women. I'm 476 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,000 not following my husband, I'm my own being. It's difficult. 477 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,960 It's also what the Bible says is to happen, which 478 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,079 puts a great responsibility on the man because he needs 479 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,240 to be abiding with Christ to properly lead his home. 480 00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:57,720 That it gets into the relationship with the kids, and 481 00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:00,640 the kids are to obey their families that they may 482 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,920 live well in the land. That's from the Old Testament. 483 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,440 But also parents are to bring their kids up right. Yes, 484 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,880 the Old Testament's part of that didn't go away. Christ 485 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,799 just fulfilled the law. But we see how Jesus raised 486 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:18,079 his apostles seeking to serve and not be served, a 487 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,920 new way of dealing with the family. Then you get 488 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,759 into the world. Jesus came so. 489 00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: We would abide. 490 00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: He created the church because it didn't exist in the 491 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,440 proper form which informed family relationships, which we then take 492 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,480 out into the world. When we take that out. 493 00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:35,759 Speaker 2: In the world, this is our workplace. 494 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,839 Speaker 1: Jesus tells us to work as if we're working directly 495 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,000 for him, and it was here, of course, that the 496 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,519 apostles then began to go out and, as Jesus said 497 00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:50,759 in Matthew, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing 498 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:52,720 them in the name of the Father, of the Son, 499 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:55,039 and the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey all 500 00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:57,559 I commanded, in other words, to go back to their 501 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,279 lands and abide, create church relationships, properly, raise home and family, 502 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,880 take that out into the world. So that's the hierarchy 503 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:11,079 of focus, which all exists within a spiritual sphere. You 504 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,599 are a spiritual being. We are called to love our 505 00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:16,880 neighbors as ourselves. We're called to pray for our enemies, 506 00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:20,880 and you are a spiritual being with a hierarchy that's 507 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,039 laid out for us in the Bible, which includes, yes, 508 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,000 care for your family first. I mean, you can go 509 00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:30,319 all the way back if you like to Deuterotomy. He 510 00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:33,400 who will not care for his own family is worse 511 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,960 than a sinner. You can go into Timothy. It's restated 512 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,079 right there. I think it's first Timothy. He will not 513 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,440 care for his own family is worse than a non believer. 514 00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:45,279 Let's not be worse than non believers, and let's not 515 00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:48,559 expect non believers to act like us. Let's do go 516 00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:51,359 make disciples in every way we can. This is the 517 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,720 Todd Hermann Show. Please go, be well, be strong, be kind, 518 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,319 and please make every effort to walk in the line 519 00:29:57,319 --> 00:29:57,400 of 520 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,519 Speaker 2: Christ and e