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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going

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<v Speaker 2>on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to

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<v Speaker 2>kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there over

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<v Speaker 2>the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming

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<v Speaker 2>over the fence and name was dead once you hit

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<v Speaker 2>the grill. I didn't see any cars. All I saw

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<v Speaker 2>was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around

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<v Speaker 2>out here? Did you see what it was? It was

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<v Speaker 2>enough out here. Look, I'm near the window now and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need anything. I don't want to go outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Its hello, hit the boddy out here? What quen? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>out there? It's thought of a mention about text nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know easy, I'm out there. Yeah, I'm walking right, heady.

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<v Speaker 1>My name's Bill, and I just retired after twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>years with the Forest Service. Spent most of that time

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<v Speaker 1>in the deep woods of the Pacific Northwest, but also

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<v Speaker 1>worked assignments in Montana, Alaska, Colorado, and a few other places.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen a lot of things in those woods that

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<v Speaker 1>most people never will Some of them I can explain. Others, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you what happened, and you can decide

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself. I'm telling these stories because I'm done worrying

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<v Speaker 1>about what people think. I've got my pension, my cabin,

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing left to prove. These things happened to me,

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<v Speaker 1>all of them. And if you think I'm lying or crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your business. But I know what I saw and

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I experienced. This was early in my career,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe my second year on the job. I was stationed

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<v Speaker 1>at a remote outpost on the Olympic Peninsula, one of

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<v Speaker 1>those places where you might not see another person for weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>The job was mostly firewatch and basic maintenance, but in

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<v Speaker 1>late fall of seventy eight, I had an experience that

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<v Speaker 1>changed how I looked at the forest. I was working

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<v Speaker 1>a night shift, doing routine patrols on some of the

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<v Speaker 1>back roads. It was around two a m. When I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to check on a small ranger cabin about eight

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<v Speaker 1>miles from the main station. The cabin was used by

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<v Speaker 1>researchers sometimes, but it had been empty for weeks. When

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<v Speaker 1>I got there, something felt wrong. The front door was

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<v Speaker 1>standing wide open, which wasn't normal. I parked the truck

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<v Speaker 1>and grabbed my flashlight and radio. The cabin looked fine

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<v Speaker 1>from the outside, but when I stepped inside, I could

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<v Speaker 1>smell something, not like garbage or decay, more like wet animal,

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<v Speaker 1>strong and thick, like when you walk past at a

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<v Speaker 1>zoo exhibit. I called out, thinking maybe someone had broken in.

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<v Speaker 1>No answer. I checked all the rooms with my flashlight.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything was where it should be, nothing missing or damaged.

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<v Speaker 1>But the smell was getting stronger, and I started hearing

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<v Speaker 1>something moving around outside. I went back to the front

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<v Speaker 1>door and listened heavy footsteps, but not like boots, more

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<v Speaker 1>like bare feet, but way too heavy for a person.

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<v Speaker 1>The steps went around the cabin, slow and deliberate, like

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was was checking the place out. I stood

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<v Speaker 1>in that doorway for maybe ten minutes, listening to those

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<v Speaker 1>footsteps circle the building. Then they stopped right behind the cabin,

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<v Speaker 1>and I heard a sound I'll never forget. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like someone clearing their throat, but deeper, much deeper, and

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<v Speaker 1>loud enough that I felt it in my chest. I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to investigate. Stupid, probably, but I was young and

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<v Speaker 1>thought I could handle anything. I walked around the back

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<v Speaker 1>of the cabin with my flashlight, expecting to find a

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<v Speaker 1>bear or maybe some drunk hiker. What I found was

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<v Speaker 1>a set of footprints in the dirt behind the cabin.

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<v Speaker 1>They were huge, had to be eighteen inches long, maybe more.

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<v Speaker 1>They looked human, but the size was impossible. I could

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<v Speaker 1>see tow impressions, the heel of the foot, everything, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were deeper than any human print would be. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>made these definitely weighed way more than a person. I

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<v Speaker 1>followed the trail for maybe twenty yards before it disappeared

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<v Speaker 1>on rocky ground. But I'd seen enough. I went back

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<v Speaker 1>to my truck and got out of there. Never filed

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<v Speaker 1>a report about it, just marked the cabin as secure

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<v Speaker 1>and moved on. But I went back the next week,

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<v Speaker 1>had to see if those prints were still there. They were,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were more of them. It looked like something

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<v Speaker 1>had been visiting that cabin regularly, walking around it, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>looking in the windows. I never spent another night alone

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<v Speaker 1>at that outpost without thinking about those footprints, and I

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<v Speaker 1>never went back to that cabin after dark. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven, I got assigned to a research project in Alaska.

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<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to spend six weeks at a remote

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<v Speaker 1>station helping with a wildlife survey. The station was about

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<v Speaker 1>forty miles from the nearest road, supplied by helicopter once

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<v Speaker 1>a month. Beautiful country, but isolated in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>could get to you if you weren't careful. I was

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<v Speaker 1>there alone most of the time, just me and all

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<v Speaker 1>the monitoring equipment. Radio contact with the outside world twice

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<v Speaker 1>a day, but otherwise complete silence. The work was routine,

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<v Speaker 1>checking instruments, recording data, maintaining the equipment. About three weeks

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<v Speaker 1>in I started noticing that my equipment was being moved,

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<v Speaker 1>not damaged, just repositioned. I'd place a camera in one spot,

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<v Speaker 1>come back a week later and find it twenty feet away,

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<v Speaker 1>still functioning, still recording, just moved. At first I figured

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<v Speaker 1>it was bears. They're curious animals, and I'll investigate anything

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<v Speaker 1>new in their territory. But bears don't relocate equipment carefully.

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<v Speaker 1>They knock it over, maybe chew on it, but they

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<v Speaker 1>don't move it intact. I decided to review the footage

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<v Speaker 1>from the cameras see if I could figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>was moving them. What I found on those recordings still

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<v Speaker 1>gives me chills. There was something out there, something big

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<v Speaker 1>and covered in dark fur, walking upright like a person,

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<v Speaker 1>but way too large to be human. The footage showed

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<v Speaker 1>it approaching my cameras, sniffing them, picking them up, and

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<v Speaker 1>examining them like a curious animal might. But what got

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<v Speaker 1>to me was how careful it was. Bears will bat

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<v Speaker 1>at things, knock them around. This creature handled my equipment

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<v Speaker 1>like it understood it was fragile. It would pick up

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<v Speaker 1>a camera, turn it over, smell it, then set it

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<v Speaker 1>down somewhere else. Over the next two weeks, I captured

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<v Speaker 1>more footage. The creature was around the station almost every night.

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<v Speaker 1>It would investigate everything, my supply, cash, my equipment, even

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<v Speaker 1>my WISTE disposal area, like it was trying to understand

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<v Speaker 1>what I was doing there. The thing was massive. Even

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<v Speaker 1>on the grainy footage, I could tell it had to

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<v Speaker 1>be eight feet tall, maybe more. The shoulders were enormous

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<v Speaker 1>and the arms hung down almost to its knees. But

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<v Speaker 1>it moved quietly, carefully, like it was being deliberate about

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<v Speaker 1>not damaging anything. I never felt directly threatened, but knowing

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<v Speaker 1>something that large was watching me every night, studying my routines,

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<v Speaker 1>that changed how I felt about being alone in the wilderness.

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<v Speaker 1>I started keeping my rifle closer, even though I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>sure bullets would do much good against something that size.

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<v Speaker 1>When my assignment ended, I packed up everything and never

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<v Speaker 1>looked back. I kept copies of the footage, but I

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<v Speaker 1>never showed them to anyone. The quality wasn't great, and

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<v Speaker 1>most of it just showed a large, dark shape moving

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<v Speaker 1>around in the darkness. I requested transfer back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Lower forty eight after that assignment. Told my supervisors I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like the isolation, which was true, but not for

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons they thought. In nineteen ninety five, I was

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<v Speaker 1>working in the bitter Root National Forest in Montana, beautiful country,

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<v Speaker 1>but remote and wild. I was doing a routine patrol

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<v Speaker 1>in late October when I came across a hunting camp

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<v Speaker 1>that had been abandoned in a hurry. The camp was

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<v Speaker 1>set up properly, good location, well organized, all the right equipment,

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<v Speaker 1>but everything was just left there, tents still standing, gear

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<v Speaker 1>scattered around, food left out like the hunters had dropped

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<v Speaker 1>everything and ran. I found the hunters about a mile away,

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<v Speaker 1>holed up in their truck on a forest road. Three

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<v Speaker 1>guys from back East experienced hunters, but new to the

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<v Speaker 1>Western Mountains. They were pretty shaken up. Said they'd had

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<v Speaker 1>to abandon their camp because of dangerous wildlife. It took

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<v Speaker 1>some talking to get the full story out of them.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd been camped in that spot for two days, having

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<v Speaker 1>good luck with elk, but on their second night they

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<v Speaker 1>started he hearing things that didn't belong, trees being broken,

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<v Speaker 1>loud crashes echoing through the forest. The oldest hunter, a

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Frank, said it sounded like someone was clearing

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<v Speaker 1>land with heavy machinery, but they were eight miles from

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<v Speaker 1>the nearest road, no way to get equipment into that area.

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<v Speaker 1>When they investigated in the morning, they found trees that

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<v Speaker 1>had been broken off about eight feet from the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Not cut down, broken snapped like twigs. These were mature furs,

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<v Speaker 1>six and eight inches across. Whatever broke them had to

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<v Speaker 1>be incredibly strong. Frank had been logging before he retired,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said it would take a machine to break

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<v Speaker 1>trees that size, but there were no tire tracks, no

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<v Speaker 1>signs of machinery. The second night, they heard something moving

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<v Speaker 1>around their camp. Heavy footsteps, but careful and deliberate, like

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<v Speaker 1>something large was walking around their tents, checking them out.

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<v Speaker 1>They stayed inside and waited for morning. When they emerged,

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<v Speaker 1>they found footprints all around their camp. Frank showed me

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<v Speaker 1>photos he'd taken with the disposable camera. The prints were enormous,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly showing tow impressions and the shape of a human foot,

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<v Speaker 1>but way too big for any person. But what really

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<v Speaker 1>spooked them was what they found at their truck. They'd

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<v Speaker 1>parked it about a quarter mile from camp, thinking it

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<v Speaker 1>would be safer there. When they checked on it the

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<v Speaker 1>next morning, something had been examining it. There were large

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<v Speaker 1>handprints on the windows and body panels, like something had

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<v Speaker 1>been pressing against the glass trying to see inside. Frank

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<v Speaker 1>said the handprints were huge, much larger than human hands,

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<v Speaker 1>but they showed finger impressions, thumbs, everything you'd expect from

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<v Speaker 1>a hand, just impossibly large. The third night, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>wait around to see what would happen. They packed up

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<v Speaker 1>their essential gear and hiked out to their truck in

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<v Speaker 1>the dark, leaving most of their equipment behind. I went

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<v Speaker 1>back to their campsite after talking to them. Everything was

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<v Speaker 1>just as they described. Broken trees, footprints, gear left scattered around,

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<v Speaker 1>and stay tuned for more Sasquatch ott to see We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. After these messages, the footprints were deep

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<v Speaker 1>and clear, showing details that convinced me these weren't fake.

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<v Speaker 1>I took some photos and measurements, but I never filed

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<v Speaker 1>an official report. What was I going to say that

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<v Speaker 1>with a flashlight but couldn't see anything. The sounds continued

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<v Speaker 1>for maybe an hour, something moving through the forest, stopping occasionally,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was didn't care about moving quietly. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>smelled it. The mother described it as like a zoo

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<v Speaker 1>It was so strong it made them gag. The daughter

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<v Speaker 1>maybe sixty yards from their camp. The thing was huge,

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<v Speaker 1>had to be at least seven feet tall, with shoulders

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<v Speaker 1>hiked out that night five mi aisles of rough trail

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<v Speaker 1>our office and showed me the image. The night vision

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<v Speaker 1>made everything look greenish, but you could clearly see it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't any normal animal. The proportions were all wrong, too tall,

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<v Speaker 1>too broad, arms that hung down too far. What got

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<v Speaker 1>to me was thinking about how long it might have

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<v Speaker 1>like a predator studying prey, but without any apparent intention

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<v Speaker 1>to attack. The family stopped backcountry camping after that experience.

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<v Speaker 1>They still visit the National forests, but only in developed

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<v Speaker 1>campgrounds where there are other people around. Can't say I

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<v Speaker 1>blame them. I kept a copy of that photo. I

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<v Speaker 1>look at it sometimes, trying to make sense of what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing. The quality isn't grey, but there's definitely something there,

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<v Speaker 1>something that shouldn't exist. By twenty ten, I was working

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<v Speaker 1>special assignments, and that summer I got sent to investigate

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<v Speaker 1>complaints about aggressive wildlife in the North Cascades. A research

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<v Speaker 1>station had been having problems with equipment being destroyed and

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<v Speaker 1>researchers being intimidated by what they described as unusually large

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<v Speaker 1>and bold bears. The station was only accessible by helicopter,

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<v Speaker 1>about fifteen miles from the nearest trail. When I arrived,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see why the researchers were concerned. Equipment had

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<v Speaker 1>been damaged all around the facility, not randomly destroyed, but

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<v Speaker 1>systematically dismantled. Solar panels had been ripped off their mounts,

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<v Speaker 1>weather instruments had been pulled apart, and supply containers had

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<v Speaker 1>Bears tear things apart looking for food, and they leave

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<v Speaker 1>claw marks and bite marks. This looked more like something

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<v Speaker 1>had been taking equipment apart, piece by piece, exam how

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<v Speaker 1>documenting the damage and trying to establish patterns. The destruction

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<v Speaker 1>always happened at night, and it was getting more aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever was doing this seemed to be escalating its behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>On my third night, I found out why. Around two am,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard something moving around outside the station. Heavy footsteps

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<v Speaker 1>but too deliberate for a bear. I watched from the

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<v Speaker 1>window as a massive figure approached the facility. It was enormous,

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<v Speaker 1>easily eight feet tall, with a frame that looked like

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<v Speaker 1>it could weigh five hundred pounds, covered in thick, dark hair,

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<v Speaker 1>and moving with surprising agility for something so large, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was clearly agitated about something. The creature went straight

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<v Speaker 1>to the equipment I'd set up earlier that day, motion

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<v Speaker 1>sensors and recording devices. It didn't just destroy them randomly.

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<v Speaker 1>It systematically dismantled each piece, examining it briefly, then throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the parts away with obvie frustration. I watched for over

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<v Speaker 1>an hour as it methodically destroyed everything I'd brought to

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<v Speaker 1>the station. But what scared me was the intelligence behind

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<v Speaker 1>its actions. This wasn't random vandalism. It was targeted destruction

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<v Speaker 1>of specific equipment, like it understood what each device was

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<v Speaker 1>for and didn't want to be monitored. When it finished

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<v Speaker 1>with my equipment, it turned its attention to the station itself.

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<v Speaker 1>It began testing the structural supports, pushing against the walls,

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<v Speaker 1>examining the roof attachments, like it was deciding whether to

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<v Speaker 1>demolish the entire facility. That's when I realized what was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>The research station had been built in this creature's territory,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was trying to drive away the human intruders.

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<v Speaker 1>The systematic equipment destruction wasn't random, it was a message.

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<v Speaker 1>I packed up and left the next morning, recommending that

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<v Speaker 1>the station be relocated. In my report, I cited unstable

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<v Speaker 1>geological conditions as the reason for the recommendation. The real

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<v Speaker 1>reas and would have gotten me laughed out of the

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<v Speaker 1>Forest Service. The station was eventually abandoned after researchers continued

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<v Speaker 1>to report equipment problems in what they described as intimidation

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<v Speaker 1>behavior from local wildlife. Last I heard, the area had

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<v Speaker 1>been designated as sensitive habitat and was off limits to

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<v Speaker 1>research activities. Sometimes territorial animals will defend their space against

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<v Speaker 1>human intrusion. Usually that means bears or mountain lions. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I observed that night was something much larger and

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<v Speaker 1>more intelligent, defending its territory the only way it knew how,

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<v Speaker 1>by making human presence impossible to maintain. I was working

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<v Speaker 1>a temporary assignment in Kentucky in twenty fifteen, helping with

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<v Speaker 1>fire management planning in the Daniel Boone National Forest. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where I met Tom, a state police officer who'd been

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<v Speaker 1>patrolling the rural areas around the forest for over fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom came to our office one morning, looking like he

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't slept. Said he needed to talk to someone about

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<v Speaker 1>an incident from the night before, but he wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 1>how to classify it. When I asked what kind of incident,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd believe it. He'd been patrolling State Route eighty, one

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<v Speaker 1>of those winding mountain roads that cuts through some of

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<v Speaker 1>the most remote areas of eastern Kentucky. It was around

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<v Speaker 1>three a m. When his headlights caught something standing in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the road about fifty yards ahead. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>he thought it was a person, maybe someone whose car

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<v Speaker 1>had broken down, but as he got closer he realized

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was was much too large to be human.

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<v Speaker 1>It was standing upright on two legs, but it had

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<v Speaker 1>to be at least eight feet tall, with shoulders that

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<v Speaker 1>looked impossibly broad. Tom stopped his patrol car and turned

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<v Speaker 1>on his spotlight. What he saw made him reach for

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<v Speaker 1>his radio, but they were in a dead zone where

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains blocked the signal. He was on his own.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing in the road was covered in thick, dark

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<v Speaker 1>hair and built like nothing he'd ever seen. The arms

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<v Speaker 1>hung down almost to its knees, and the head was assive,

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<v Speaker 1>much larger than a human head. But it was looking

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<v Speaker 1>directly at his patrol car, studying it like it was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to decide what to do. Tom said, the most

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<v Speaker 1>unsettling thing was how intelligent it looked. This wasn't some

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<v Speaker 1>mindless animal. It was clearly thinking, evaluating the situation, and

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't seem afraid of the patrol car or the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 1>For maybe five minutes, they just looked at each other,

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<v Speaker 1>the road. Then it did something that convinced Tom he

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the road and gestured for him to pass,

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<v Speaker 1>not like a person would gesture, but a clear indication

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<v Speaker 1>that it was moving out of the way. Tom drove

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<v Speaker 1>passed slowly, and the creature watched him the entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>In his rear view mirror, he could see it step

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<v Speaker 1>back into the road after he'd passed. Tom drove to

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<v Speaker 1>the nearest area with radio coverage and called for backup,

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<v Speaker 1>but by the time another unit arrived, there was There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing there, no footprints on the asphalt, no evidence that

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<v Speaker 1>been a police officer for fifteen years, trained to observe

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<v Speaker 1>and evaluate threats. What he'd encountered wasn't a bear standing

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<v Speaker 1>on its hind legs or a person in a costume.

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<v Speaker 1>It was something that belonged in those mountains, something that

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<v Speaker 1>and respond appropriately. The thing that bothered Tom most was

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<v Speaker 1>how the creature had handled the encounter. No aggression, no fear,

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<v Speaker 1>never patrolled that stretch of road alone again. He requested

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<v Speaker 1>reassignment to areas closer to town, saying he preferred community

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<v Speaker 1>policing to rural patrol work. But he told me the

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<v Speaker 1>real reason he didn't want another encounter with something that

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<v Speaker 1>was clearly more intelligent than any animal had a right

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<v Speaker 1>to be. I kept in touch with Tom for a

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<v Speaker 1>few years after that assignment. He eventually transferred to a

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<v Speaker 1>different department, taking a job in urban law enforcement, where

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest wildlife concern was stray dogs. Said he'd had

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<v Speaker 1>enough of the mountains and whatever lived in them. During

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<v Speaker 1>a training program in Michigan in twenty seventeen, I met

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<v Speaker 1>a fishing guide named Mike who'd been working the remote

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<v Speaker 1>lakes and rivers of the Upper Peninsula for over twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike was the kind of guy who knew every creek

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<v Speaker 1>in Beaver Pond within one hundred miles, someone who'd spent

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<v Speaker 1>more nights alone in the wilderness than most people spend indoors.

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<v Speaker 1>But Mike came to our office that summer with a

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<v Speaker 1>story that had clearly shaken him. He'd been guiding clients

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<v Speaker 1>on a multi day fishing trip in one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most remote areas of the Ottawa National Forest when they'd

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<v Speaker 1>encountered something that made him question everything he thought he

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<v Speaker 1>knew about the local wildlife. The trip was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be five days of fishing on a series of connected

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<v Speaker 1>and stay tuned for more sasquatch ott to see we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages. Mike had been using

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<v Speaker 1>the area for years without incident. It was perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>clients who wanted to fish waters that hadn't seen much

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<v Speaker 1>pressure from other anglers. On their third night, they were

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<v Speaker 1>What he didn't expect was something that could swim around. Midnight,

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<v Speaker 1>in that area, but the swimming pattern was too regular,

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<v Speaker 1>too purposeful. Mike looked out from his tent and saw

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<v Speaker 1>something in the water. A massive figure was swimming toward

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<v Speaker 1>their island with powerful, steady strokes, too large to be human,

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<v Speaker 1>but moving through the water with more skill than any

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<v Speaker 1>animal he'd ever seen. The creature reached the shallow water

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<v Speaker 1>around the island and stood up. Even in the poor light,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike could see it was enormous, at least eight feet tall,

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<v Speaker 1>with a frame that looked powerful enough to break trees.

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<v Speaker 1>It was covered in thick, dark hair that seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>shed water like an animal's coat. For the next hour,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike watched as the creature explored their island. It moved

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<v Speaker 1>around the perimeter, examining their equipment, checking their canoes. It

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<v Speaker 1>was clearly curious about their presence, but it moved carefully, quietly,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was trying not to wake them. The most

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<v Speaker 1>unsettling moment came when the creature approached Mike's tent. He

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<v Speaker 1>could see its shadow on the tent wall as it

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<v Speaker 1>crouched down next to where he was lying. For several minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>it stayed there so close that Mike could hear its breathing,

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<v Speaker 1>deep steady breaths that were definitely not human. Then it

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<v Speaker 1>made a sound, a low rumbling vocalization that Mike felt

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<v Speaker 1>in his chest. Not aggressive, more like a question, like

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<v Speaker 1>it was trying to communicate something but didn't know how.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike's client was awake by then, and they both lay

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly still until the creature moved away. They could hear

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<v Speaker 1>it walking around the island for another hour, then the

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<v Speaker 1>sound of it entering the water again. When Mike looked out,

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<v Speaker 1>he could see it swimming back toward the main shore

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<v Speaker 1>with the same powerful strokes. In the morning, they found

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of the creature's visit everywhere, large footprints in the sand,

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<v Speaker 1>impressions that showed clear toe structure and measured over eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>inches in length. The creature had examined all their equipment,

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<v Speaker 1>but nothing was damaged or moved. Mike and his client

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<v Speaker 1>cut their trip short, packing up and hiking out that morning.

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<v Speaker 1>The client was excited about what they'd witnessed, but Mike

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<v Speaker 1>was deeply unsettled. In twenty years of guiding in that area,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd never encountered anything that made him feel so completely

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<v Speaker 1>outmatched in his own environment. The thing that bothered Mike

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<v Speaker 1>most was how easily the creature had moved through the water,

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<v Speaker 1>swimming between islands, approaching their camp from an angle he'd

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<v Speaker 1>never considered. It suggested a level of adaptation to the

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<v Speaker 1>wilderness that went far beyond anything he'd encountered. Mike sold

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<v Speaker 1>Is guiding business two years later, saying he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>try something different, but he told me the real reason.

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<v Speaker 1>The wilderness didn't feel empty anymore. It felt occupied by

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<v Speaker 1>something that was watching, learning, and adapting to human presence

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<v Speaker 1>in ways that made him uncomfortable. I spent twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>years in the deep woods, and I saw things that

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<v Speaker 1>don't fit into our normal understanding of what is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to live in North American forests. I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>mystical creatures or ancient legends. I'm talking about something real,

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<v Speaker 1>something that's adapted to living in the wilderness better than

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<v Speaker 1>we ever could. These creatures, whatever they are, aren't the

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<v Speaker 1>gentle giants some people want to believe in their territorial

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent and powerful enough to be dangerous when they want

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<v Speaker 1>to be, but they also seem to understand that avoiding

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<v Speaker 1>humans is usually the best strategy for survival. The encounters

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<v Speaker 1>I've described happened to me and people I trusted over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of my career. I documented what I could

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<v Speaker 1>kept photos and measurements, but I never made it official.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you file a report about something that officially

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist. What connects all these stories is the behavior

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<v Speaker 1>I observed. These aren't mindless animals acting on instinct. They're

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent enough to evaluate situations, make decisions, and adapt their

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<v Speaker 1>behavior based on circumstances. They understand human activity well enough

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid detection most of the time, but they're also

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<v Speaker 1>territorial enough to defend their space when they feel threatened.

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<v Speaker 1>The systematic equipment destruction I witnessed in Washington wasn't random vandalism.

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<v Speaker 1>It was targeted behavior designed to drive away human intrusion.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a population of these creatures living in

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<v Speaker 1>the most remote areas of North American foreststs. They've learned

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid human contact, but they're also curious enough to

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<v Speaker 1>study our behavior when they think they can do it safely.

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<v Speaker 1>The intelligence I observed suggests they're much more than simple animals.

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<v Speaker 1>They understand technology well enough to examine and manipulate it.

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<v Speaker 1>They recognize vehicles and equipment. They can evaluate threats and

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<v Speaker 1>respond appropriately. Now that I'm retired, I figure it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to share what I experienced. Maybe it'll help other people

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<v Speaker 1>understand that the wilderness isn't empty. It's occupied by something

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<v Speaker 1>we don't fully understand, something that's been there longer than

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<v Speaker 1>we have. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you what happened to me during twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years of walking forest trails and spending nights alone

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<v Speaker 1>in places where most people never go. You can believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not, that's up to you. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>spend time in the deep woods, pay attention to things

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<v Speaker 1>that don't quite fit, equipment that gets moved without explanation,

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<v Speaker 1>signs of intelligence, and places where you don't expect to

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<v Speaker 1>find it, and remember that you're not alone out there.

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<v Speaker 1>The wilderness has rules, and the most important one is respect.

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<v Speaker 1>Respect for the environment, respect for the wildlife, and respect

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<v Speaker 1>for the things you might encounter that you don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there are things in those forests that are bigger, stronger,

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<v Speaker 1>and smarter than you are, and they've been watching us

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<v Speaker 1>a lot longer than we may care to admit. They say,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.

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<v Speaker 3>Out. The joy this job, that time, everything came right

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<v Speaker 3>by poking back joy from me.

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<v Speaker 4>Joy staying right you come in right away. Steps still

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<v Speaker 4>step step step steps.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not do

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<v Speaker 4>Ussas state passing states BASS used these ps
