1 00:00:08,599 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Best Mornings with Me Jeff Greb, 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,880 your host from GiantBomb dot com. Thank you for tuning in. 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,760 In this episode, we're going to be talking about why 4 00:00:16,839 --> 00:00:18,760 game Pass is getting cheaper and a whole lot more. 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,039 It's gonna be a good one because we have Matt 6 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:23,760 Piscatella on the show. Matt, how are you doing. 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,399 Speaker 2: Jeff Greb? How are you? How fun is this? I'm 8 00:00:26,519 --> 00:00:28,559 very happ great to be back. Yeah, thank you so 9 00:00:28,679 --> 00:00:31,160 much for you know, giving me a shout let's do this. 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I appreciate it. I know you work hard 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,600 to get these reports ready. Glad to have you on 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,960 the day of the report coming out. We could definitely 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,159 talk about that a whole bunch more. There's a lot 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,920 of stories where it's like, hey, that'll be great to 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,079 get Matt's input. So looking forward to it. But let's 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,840 let let's let's shift gears a little bit before we 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,560 get into all that. What are you playing right now? 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,119 I will like you got anything that you're into? 19 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: So at Belb. The show twenty six came out recently, 20 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,640 so I'm still deep into that about one hundred and 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,679 fifty hours in. It's my turn off the brain and 22 00:01:01,759 --> 00:01:05,159 listen to pomcast kind of kind of game. Also doing 23 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,560 Citizen Sleeper. I'm trying to get one into done at 24 00:01:08,599 --> 00:01:12,640 the same time, which are really very kind of choose 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:18,200 your own adventure style test heavy adventury type games that 26 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,400 are very well written. I'm having a really good time 27 00:01:20,439 --> 00:01:20,799 doing that. 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,519 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you have a good time with your padres. They 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:25,560 seem like they might be all right. 30 00:01:28,519 --> 00:01:32,439 Speaker 2: As with anything from a gen X Sicilian, I'm always 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,959 waiting for the collapse. 32 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: I wait for the other shoe to drop. 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing so well. It's like they should be 34 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,560 doing this well, but I'm gonna I'm gonna go ride 35 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:43,359 with it while I can. 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: That Closer seems like a lot of fun too. I 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,719 don't know if people watching this will know, but he 38 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:51,879 kind of was a meme earlier in the season with 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,239 his corn music for the walkout song and the lights flashing. 40 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,079 And he's a big boy too, so when he comes 41 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:01,319 out to that, it's like, Okay, this is actually legitimately intimidating. 42 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: I'm into it. 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's a large He's a large human being 44 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:08,080 throws about one hundred and four. That's a lot of fun. 45 00:02:08,439 --> 00:02:11,240 You know, but you're always always waiting for his arm 46 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,759 to explode. But hey, again, I'm just gonna ride it 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,919 while at last, Like everything in life, I. 48 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,319 Speaker 3: Guess absolutely all right. Well that's uh, that's fantastic. 49 00:02:21,479 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: I'll saw you earlier this week posting about getting up 50 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,960 early to get stuff ready. 51 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: You you a morning person? Is that? Is that your 52 00:02:27,879 --> 00:02:30,520 tendency or what extreme morning? 53 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: I'm usually working like four to one and then my 54 00:02:33,479 --> 00:02:37,400 brain completely just melts. So yeah, it kind of helps 55 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,560 doing the East Coast hours. I'm in San Diego and 56 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:41,840 the companies, you know, a lot of folks East Coast base. 57 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,599 So oh that kind of works out in a lot 58 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:44,159 of ways for me. 59 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that that Yeah, that's good stuff. 60 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 61 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: It's like I'm the one pm shutdown is like one 62 00:02:50,759 --> 00:02:53,800 percent universally true for me. I can work from like 63 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,159 six pm to three am, and I can work four 64 00:02:56,199 --> 00:02:57,159 am to one pm. 65 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 3: That's definitely that what works for me. 66 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,439 Speaker 1: Anytime that afternoon period, It's like, why why am I 67 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:05,360 even doing anything? I should be horizontal maybe on the ground. 68 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,479 Actually I should be laying down, like face down. But 69 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:11,680 absolutely all right, we should we should get into things. 70 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,599 There's plenty to talk about let's explain ourselves. We're Giant Bomb. 71 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,759 Go to giant bomb dot com slash join become a 72 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,840 premium member. If you do so, you're gonna support independent 73 00:03:19,879 --> 00:03:23,280 games media, which we really appreciate everyone who has come 74 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:25,599 through and done exactly that. If you do so, you're 75 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,719 gonna get ad free versions of our shows. 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You can also catch the show later 96 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:23,720 with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. 97 00:04:24,759 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 3: Hello YouTube. 98 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,639 Speaker 1: All right, we have a lot to get into, so 99 00:04:27,759 --> 00:04:30,639 let's start the morning mess with the March twenty twenty 100 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,000 six US video game market highlights report from Matt Piscatella 101 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,240 over at Sircana, US video game spending jumped to twelve 102 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,920 percent in March, driven by console content and hardware, Crimson 103 00:04:40,959 --> 00:04:44,560 Desert MLB, The Show twenty six and Pokemon Pacopia. We're 104 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,279 among several new releases fueling overall spending growth. There's plenty 105 00:04:49,319 --> 00:04:51,360 to get into here, Matt, But I wonder if you 106 00:04:51,399 --> 00:04:53,439 want to, like, give us the stuff that was really 107 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:56,160 sparking your interest, things that you took notice of, what 108 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,040 made your eyebrows raise well. 109 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,519 Speaker 2: I mean, growing twelve percent in March is great. Ending 110 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,839 the first quarter five percent above last year is also 111 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,800 very good. It's about as good of a result as 112 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,399 anyone should have reasonably expected given everything happening. So in 113 00:05:13,439 --> 00:05:17,160 that respect, it's really great news to see that that 114 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,800 video game consumer in the US is still very much 115 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,120 excited to play games. And hey, I don't know if 116 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,759 you do this, but if you put out great games 117 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,279 that have good market appeal, turns out people will buy them. 118 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,480 And that's still true. So content still is king and 119 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:36,199 all of that. I mean, really though, the story is 120 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,839 the big new releases. We had several led by Crimson Desert, 121 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,279 like you mentioned MLB, the show Pokemon Pacopia, Pacopia Pocopia, 122 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:48,160 however it's pronounced really doing some work there, and really 123 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,160 the new releases helped drive things in sales like hardware 124 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,199 and even some accessory spending. So in general, like a 125 00:05:56,319 --> 00:05:58,720 very positive end result for the March numbers. 126 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:02,319 Speaker 1: For sure, you're right here at US projected total market 127 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,439 video game spending reached five point three billion dollars in March. 128 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,279 That's that twelve percent increase when compared to a year ago. 129 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:11,600 First quarter spinning grew five percent. When we do like 130 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:13,759 drop down look at the chart of just the top 131 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,439 twenty best sellers here, a lot of like you always 132 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:19,439 compare it to last month's performance, and that column has 133 00:06:19,639 --> 00:06:22,160 new a bunch of times. We got a new for MLB, 134 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,240 the Show, new for WWE Marathon. This is in order 135 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,040 everybody in Pokemon Pacopia with physical sales only, Monster Monster 136 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,600 hundred Stories three Twisted Reflection that was at number seven. 137 00:06:34,079 --> 00:06:35,720 Then we do drop down to like number fifteen to 138 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,839 see Crimson Desert there new that is physical sales only 139 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:39,399 as well. 140 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, on the chart it only can reflect physical 141 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:47,800 sales as well as digital from our digital panel participating publishers. However, 142 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,360 when we project out all of that missing digital data 143 00:06:51,399 --> 00:06:54,759 from those charts, the ranking really is Crimson Desert one, 144 00:06:54,959 --> 00:06:58,240 MLB The Show twenty six and two and Coopia three. 145 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:02,560 So yeah, the charts a have to be formed only 146 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:05,879 account for point of sale actuals rather than projections. But 147 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,519 when we project it changes the story a little bit. 148 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,519 Speaker 1: And just like clarify for people that that is just 149 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,279 Crimson dest what you're talking about, because that has the 150 00:07:13,319 --> 00:07:15,560 asterisk and the other ones that have the asterisk. A 151 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,000 lot of these other ones, like you said, you have 152 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,319 a panel that does give you data and so many 153 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:22,680 of these do include digital, but you don't try you 154 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,000 don't project on this chart, but you are able to 155 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,800 protect and project internally. You do do projections, and you 156 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,800 guys are pretty confident in that math for something like 157 00:07:29,839 --> 00:07:30,560 Crimson Desert. 158 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: But what does that look like? It's like, oh man, 159 00:07:32,519 --> 00:07:33,199 this like it's. 160 00:07:33,079 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: Sold every copy it possibly could at physical and then 161 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:38,800 we see this reflected in other parts of the market, 162 00:07:38,839 --> 00:07:40,519 like how do you project as best you as you 163 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:40,959 can tell us? 164 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of that is internal only. 165 00:07:43,839 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have, you know, not only the physical data, 166 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:49,720 but we also have several types of survey work we do. 167 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,600 We have receipt panels, which we basically have a panel 168 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,000 base that provides all of their purchasing receipts that we 169 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,600 can triangulate data from, and of course publicly available information. 170 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,519 But you know, we're watching this stuff all the time 171 00:08:03,279 --> 00:08:06,360 and triangulating that with even engagement data that we have, 172 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,240 so we feel like we're able to get to a 173 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,519 pretty comfortable range of error on some of these things. 174 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,160 But yeah, there's always a little bit of error in 175 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:19,240 any projection. But overall, especially with what Crimson Desert did 176 00:08:19,279 --> 00:08:24,279 on PC, it had a very strong month and an 177 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:27,759 overall would have led all titles in full game dollar sales. 178 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:30,160 But that doesn't take anything away at all from MW 179 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,399 The Show twenty six, which had its second biggest launch 180 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,399 ever behind only MLB The Show twenty one, which of 181 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:40,000 course launched in a very interesting time period in gaming, 182 00:08:40,279 --> 00:08:43,399 during the Big Boom. So but down the list, like 183 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,679 even if you go through the other big titles that 184 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,240 were new this year, in terms of franchise releases, WWE 185 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:54,000 was among the best performing WWE's at launch. Pacope did 186 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,320 incredibly well and even helped drive sales and Nintendo switch 187 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,440 to hardware and even Monster Hunter Stories three making the 188 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,519 top ten, and that's that's fantastic. So overall, like these 189 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,879 new games did do pretty darn well across the board. 190 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I look at this this chart as well 191 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,120 and sort of read some of the stuff you're going 192 00:09:11,159 --> 00:09:13,039 through here, one. 193 00:09:12,919 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 3: Thing I do notice as well is in that publisher. 194 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: Column, a lot of Sony Sony like their games are 195 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,840 popping up on this chart. I think the the number 196 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,080 one question I think people would have is, Hey, what 197 00:09:23,159 --> 00:09:27,399 about that that marathon is marathon like here at number 198 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,320 four including both physical and digital sales? 199 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:33,279 Speaker 3: Is that is that good? Like? We don't know that? 200 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: Guess that's the basic question like a lot of us 201 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,919 would have. I don't know if you know the answer, 202 00:09:36,919 --> 00:09:38,200 but Matt, is that good? 203 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:43,279 Speaker 2: Well. Expectations and results are are tend to be different things, right, 204 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,799 reasonable a reasonable sales projection versus what's a necessary sales 205 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:52,039 target to make a PNL statement look good are also 206 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:57,080 very different things overall, especially based on the PC performance, 207 00:09:57,159 --> 00:10:00,000 it's a very good start in the US for marathon. 208 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,279 Will it have legs? Will it extend? Will it build 209 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,039 an audience over time? Well, that looks like it's a 210 00:10:06,039 --> 00:10:08,960 little more challenging right now looking at the engagement data 211 00:10:09,039 --> 00:10:13,320 we have, But perhaps they can get that going again 212 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,240 with some updates, perhaps some price drops, and other games 213 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:18,360 have done it. But right now, very good start, but 214 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:20,440 looking a little if you on the legs so far. 215 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: Yes, it probably is the story of we will have 216 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,480 to see six months out if this thing is still 217 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:30,039 hovering around on these charts specifically, it's like, oh, that's probably. 218 00:10:29,759 --> 00:10:31,799 Speaker 3: The good news that they're waiting to see. 219 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,799 Speaker 1: I don't think it's like there's no reason to be like, oh, 220 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,960 we got to be running up the white flag and 221 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,080 declaring that we are going to submit for this game. Obviously, 222 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,039 but yeah, I think it will come down to how 223 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,360 does it perform over time. 224 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: And it's one of. 225 00:10:45,399 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: Those things where games now, right like, the audiences for 226 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,039 games are very different. You could have a smaller yet 227 00:10:52,159 --> 00:10:56,720 extremely dedicated player base that could be just as successful 228 00:10:56,799 --> 00:10:59,600 for your game as a wider audience that plays a 229 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,360 little bit less often and a little bit less enthusiastically, right, 230 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,720 So it all depends on the individual game what that 231 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,399 performance might look like over time. 232 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: You you touched on hardware a little bit. I'll read 233 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:13,279 some more of what you wrote. March hardware spending grew 234 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,399 by sixty nine percent when compared to a year ago 235 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:18,600 to five hundred million dollars. Nintendo switch To drove the 236 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,639 overall game, while PlayStation five spending did increased by three 237 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,759 percent compared to March twenty twenty five. Nintendo switch To 238 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:27,519 was the best selling hardware platform across both units and 239 00:11:27,639 --> 00:11:30,320 dollars for both March and twenty twenty six year to date, 240 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,000 with PlayStation five ranking second across both measures and time periods. 241 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: It's a little bit of a flip right in. 242 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: Up until this point PlayStation was doing, PlayStation five was 243 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,879 doing a little bit better than switch To. Do you 244 00:11:40,879 --> 00:11:43,320 think it's the story of Pacopia coming in here and 245 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,440 just flipping things on its head. 246 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: It sure is. I mean, I don't know who's responsible 247 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,159 if someone's got to reset the doomed clock for a Nintendo. 248 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,639 You know, when a big first party Nintendo game shows up, 249 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,039 things happen on the hardware side, and that was the 250 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,720 case for Pacopia. You know, we're still trending or Nintendo. 251 00:12:01,759 --> 00:12:03,759 Switch To is now treading twelve percent ahead of Switch 252 00:12:03,759 --> 00:12:06,240 on a timeline basis, and that includes the first holiday 253 00:12:06,279 --> 00:12:10,320 for Switch. That's fantastic when you compare the last couple 254 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,159 of months the boom or the boost scene in March 255 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,799 for switch To, you driven by Pacopia really helped. So 256 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:20,200 it really re energized the platform. You know, it's one 257 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,360 of those things right where you've talked about it before. 258 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,440 Switch To had such a strong launch because they had 259 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,399 so many units available that a lot of that demand 260 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,279 was pulled forward because the units were able to be bought, 261 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,399 and so over time, you know, it's not going to 262 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:39,639 what we call a decay curve in gaming, where sales 263 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:42,759 decay over time for a product after launch. It's not 264 00:12:42,799 --> 00:12:46,000 that they're going bad, it's just the way the curve 265 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:49,000 of the sales works. It's going to be different than 266 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,960 any other any other platform in history because so many 267 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:55,039 units were available at launch like this was expected. So 268 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,080 now we're getting these refreshes of these new games coming 269 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,200 out that can boost those sales. As long as that continues, 270 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:04,200 should be no problem. Now, whether it's going to outseell 271 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,080 Switch by the end of its life, who the hell knows. 272 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,120 I don't who knows, but it's off to a fantastic start, 273 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,399 and as long as content keeps showing up, people are 274 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,840 gonna keep buying it. Well, so long as the prices 275 00:13:14,879 --> 00:13:17,200 don't go through the roof based on what's going on 276 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,799 with components and RAM. But that's a that's a story 277 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:20,919 for another day hopefully. 278 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. 279 00:13:21,639 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a story for almost every other 280 00:13:23,759 --> 00:13:27,000 day on this show. But yeah, it's I think you know, 281 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,480 we last time I had you on, we definitely were 282 00:13:29,519 --> 00:13:33,320 having this exact conversation of it did well at launch. 283 00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: We'll see how it does through the holiday. 284 00:13:34,759 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: The holiday wasn't It was certainly wasn't bad, but there 285 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,360 was some mixed signals maybe, but it seemed like at 286 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,480 the end of the day it was like, no, it 287 00:13:40,519 --> 00:13:42,720 was a pretty good holiday, but we're still kind of 288 00:13:42,759 --> 00:13:45,639 waiting for Hey, are are those people who are waiting 289 00:13:45,639 --> 00:13:47,480 on the sideline that don't rush to get something just 290 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,159 because it's available going to step in? And this is 291 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,440 the exact thing that I think we're like, is something 292 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,120 like this going to happen? The fact that it did 293 00:13:54,159 --> 00:13:57,399 happen at least once throughout the life cycle of the 294 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,919 switch to is a sign that Nintendo does still have 295 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,960 something there that they can work with, right. 296 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,919 Speaker 2: They still got some juice. They know what they're doing 297 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,639 over there for sure. And you know, when you look 298 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,759 at something like the PlayStation five interesting, like you mentioned, 299 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:14,559 we did see a sales increase for PlayStation five hours, 300 00:14:14,639 --> 00:14:17,240 but I gotta tell you, a lot of that happened 301 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,279 in the last few days of the month following the 302 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,679 announcement of the price increase and before the implementation of 303 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,639 the price increase, So that little window there that's really 304 00:14:25,679 --> 00:14:28,159 accounted for that growth. And so it's gonna be very 305 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,519 interesting to see what happens over time. Now that price 306 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,360 increase didn't really find its way all the way through 307 00:14:35,399 --> 00:14:37,320 retail until around April fifteenth. 308 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: It took some time, right, Yeah. 309 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,559 Speaker 2: As units sold through and then the new units came 310 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,080 in and they got the higher price. So you know, 311 00:14:44,159 --> 00:14:47,320 we're gonna that impact of that price increase is gonna 312 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,960 be a little bit delayed because of that. But it's 313 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,559 going to be super interesting to see just how well 314 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,360 PlayStation five continues to sell after those really quite significant 315 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:57,120 price increases. 316 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:57,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 317 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm Sony and I'm trying to, like, 318 00:15:00,279 --> 00:15:02,200 you know, I feel these pressures on these sides. I 319 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,159 want to sell as many PlayStations as possible. I want 320 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,080 to set the price as high as possible because our 321 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,120 cost or as high as they possibly can be. Right now, 322 00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:12,080 it's like, this is the best case scenario with the 323 00:15:12,679 --> 00:15:15,000 you know, Trump card in your pocket of Grand Theft 324 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,960 Auto six comes along here later this year and people 325 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,759 forget about the price because they just need to play 326 00:15:19,759 --> 00:15:22,320 Grand Theft Auto six that bad. At the very least, 327 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,559 they do seem set up for that to be a possibility, 328 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:28,360 right Like, the sales certainly could decay more over the 329 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,840 month the intervening months up until Grand Theft Auto six, 330 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,960 but I'm sure they are expecting that with the hope 331 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,480 that yes, but the people get used to this price 332 00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:38,840 by the time Grand Theft Auto six is here, and yeah, 333 00:15:38,879 --> 00:15:41,000 that sort of wipes people's mind clean, and like, whatever 334 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,279 it is, I got to pay it right. 335 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:45,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a hell of a tightrope all of 336 00:15:45,039 --> 00:15:47,799 these companies are having to walk right now because the 337 00:15:47,879 --> 00:15:51,159 pressures on the cost side are enormous. The demands from 338 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,639 the consumer base are large, and consumers right now, particularly 339 00:15:55,639 --> 00:16:00,720 in the US, are facing incredible price pressure from everyday 340 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:03,480 spending categories like food and housing, which have been that 341 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:05,679 way for a while now, the prices have been increasing 342 00:16:05,759 --> 00:16:10,159 rather dramatically, and now of course gas, which has you know, 343 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,679 which is costing billions in additional spending every month. So like, 344 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,440 the pressures on the consumer are immense, and now we're 345 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,600 slapping these price increases on everything gaming like it. It's 346 00:16:23,679 --> 00:16:28,519 a very delicate, delicate tightrope to try to walk in. 347 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,879 You know, every this is all new, this is all 348 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,639 new territory, new world, nothing really in history to look 349 00:16:34,679 --> 00:16:36,720 at to give you a guide about what to do. 350 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,480 So everyone's just trying to figure it out. And you know, 351 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:41,440 as I'm sure we'll talk about later when it comes 352 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,240 to game pass, sometimes you can boost prices up and 353 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,559 then when that doesn't work, you bring them down. You're 354 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,440 trying to find the right balance, and that's what everyone's 355 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:51,879 trying to do. 356 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, you know, I've been thinking about it 357 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,440 because of the the S and K stuff in the 358 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,600 backlash against Saudi Arabia owning that, and like thinking about 359 00:17:00,679 --> 00:17:03,879 way things are so interconnected. I've been thinking about, you know, 360 00:17:03,919 --> 00:17:06,000 plastics being in everything, and that might got me thinking, 361 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,839 does rising cost of energy like increase the cost of petrochemicals? 362 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,680 And say, of course it does, even if it's just 363 00:17:12,759 --> 00:17:15,400 like the cost of the energy to produce those things. 364 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,119 And it's like, oh yeah, it raises the prices for 365 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,039 everything across the board. And everyone keeps saying it's like, 366 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,039 there's no reason to expect those prices for energy to 367 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:28,160 go down anytime soon. And I'm certainly no experts, so 368 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,599 I'm just kind of listening to everybody and being like, okay, 369 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,519 when and people give timelines of a year to two 370 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,279 years out, and these companies, the uncertainty was already there, 371 00:17:37,559 --> 00:17:40,079 and it seems like every week there's a new dice 372 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,319 getting thrown that is just as uncertain so they kind 373 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,599 of just have to assume worst case scenario a lot 374 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:46,400 of times, right. 375 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to have multiple scenarios in your planning, 376 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,279 and no matter who you talk to, like, no one knows, right, 377 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,160 everyone has there are estimates based on assumptions, but no 378 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,759 one knows. So you'll get estimates across the board about 379 00:17:59,759 --> 00:18:02,960 even things like whether it's energy or the price of 380 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:07,240 RAM or RAM availability, like exactly when things start improving, 381 00:18:07,279 --> 00:18:10,200 and you'll hear estimates from you know, later this year 382 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,279 to twenty thirty, and so a lot of there's a 383 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,799 lot of scenario plans. You just kind of have to 384 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,920 wing it and see how it goes. I mean, I'm 385 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,079 sure on the on the whiteboard over at Valve there's 386 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,720 a whole bunch of price points and release. 387 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, that whiteboard probably looks insane. 388 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, because things are changing so quickly and rapidly. Yeah, 389 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,440 it's it's it's a mess out there, Jeff, I don't 390 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:36,880 know if you knew. 391 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: It's it's kind of wack of do trying to get 392 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,160 that sense for sure. 393 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: Okay, before we move on, two more things, Uh, tell 394 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,759 me what we should take away from Sensor Towers data. 395 00:18:46,839 --> 00:18:49,240 You know you guys partner with them, from the mobile market. Uh, 396 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,039 it does in a lot of ways to me feel 397 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,359 like a eight. You know, there's a bifurcation. There's a 398 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,799 separation between what happens on the side that we usually 399 00:18:56,839 --> 00:18:58,599 talk about on the show and what happens so on mobile. 400 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,640 But where are they connected and what signals are you 401 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,279 getting from there? 402 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: So what's interesting is that the mobile market's also matured 403 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,079 and we're seeing the same type of behavior there that 404 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,200 we are seeing on like the console and PC side, 405 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,519 where these big behemoths just kind of stick around at 406 00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:14,799 the top of these charts and you get some mixed 407 00:19:14,839 --> 00:19:16,240 in every once in a while, but then. 408 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 3: It goes right stagnant. 409 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's mostly stagnant, just like the console market. So 410 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,759 right now, what they're seeing is like Pokemon goes and 411 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:27,640 the Monopoly goes. They'll kind of battle back and forth 412 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,759 based on events. I don't know if you've heard this before, 413 00:19:30,599 --> 00:19:35,039 but like big, big content drops will reinvigorate the mobile market. 414 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,640 So a lot of the same types of things that 415 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,799 we're seeing on the console and PC side. Of course, 416 00:19:41,839 --> 00:19:45,519 mobile continues to be the biggest segment in video game spend. 417 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,319 In March, spending was down a little bit in mobile, 418 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,119 but you know, on the console and PC side, we 419 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,680 more than made up for it, so we were able 420 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,400 to get to that overall spending growth. But really these 421 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,440 two markets are much more similar than they used to 422 00:19:59,440 --> 00:19:59,960 be in terms. 423 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, the behaviors around them makes sense. 424 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: And then I always like to look at accessories as 425 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,240 a way of like forecasting things out a little bit 426 00:20:09,319 --> 00:20:11,279 like because to me, you know, you could tell me 427 00:20:11,279 --> 00:20:13,359 if this is wrong. I always feel like if people 428 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,960 are buying accessories, it's because they plan to be investing 429 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,640 more in games. They want to spend more time playing 430 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,839 games in the near future. They're buying headsets, they're buying 431 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,240 controllers because they're playing games now, but they also expect 432 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,359 to be playing games in the next couple of months. 433 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,640 So when I see that accessories spending, accessories spending grew 434 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,519 by five percent when compared to a year ago, to 435 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:31,839 two hundred and fifty two million, to me, that sounds 436 00:20:31,839 --> 00:20:33,200 like a pretty good jump. 437 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:36,079 Speaker 3: I don't know, is it. 438 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 2: It is, and you know it's flat year to date. 439 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:41,160 So this coincided with the big push on hardware that 440 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,279 we saw in the month of March. A lot of 441 00:20:43,319 --> 00:20:45,720 cases and organized there's a lot of people buying cases 442 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:49,119 for their Nintendo Switch tos, they just buy pcope. Yeah, 443 00:20:49,559 --> 00:20:52,119 and that was a big driver there, So yeah, i'd 444 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,359 agree when it's kind of a trailing indicator in a 445 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:00,039 lot of ways, but it does correlate somewhat to what 446 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:01,400 we're seeing on the hardware side. 447 00:21:01,839 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: Makes sense, all right, fantastic, Let's uh, let's do this 448 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,319 next story real quick. Diablo four Lord of Hatred reviews 449 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,319 are end. This is the DLC for that game. It's 450 00:21:10,319 --> 00:21:12,920 got an eighty three on open Critic. Tayler Cope at 451 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,039 pc gamer gave it a ninety out of one hundred 452 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,240 said Lord of Hatred brings a campaign packed with thrills 453 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,920 in a system systems refresh that revolutionizes the loot chase, 454 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,640 and then Travis Northrop at IGN gave it an eight 455 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,680 out of ten. Lord of Hatred gives Diablo four an 456 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,880 extremely satisfying conclusion, excellent changes to build crafting, and an 457 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,839 in game that could potentially go the distance, and then 458 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,480 four stars from shreef'sai ed at VG twenty four to seven. 459 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,960 Lord of Hatred accomplishes the near impossible task of delivering 460 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,960 a game changing expansion that fundamentally improves on the core 461 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,400 of Diablo four and a weiting narrative conclusion that so brilliant, 462 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,400 brilliantly balances spectacle with the emotional heft essential for any 463 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,400 fan of arpg's Mad Again. I'll ask you kind of 464 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,039 like about the a little bit of the business case 465 00:21:58,079 --> 00:22:01,640 here of the DLC, especially for a long running franchise 466 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,359 that has done this a bunch of times like Diablo. Uh, 467 00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:07,839 these are often moments of reset and sort of like 468 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,960 setting the game up for its long term future, which 469 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,960 we know Diablo always, always, always has. These companies look 470 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,519 at it that way, right, like, this is a chance 471 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:18,599 to put out the game that people are actually going 472 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,319 to remember. 473 00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 3: So if they get it right, does it it does 474 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,359 it often pay off? 475 00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a long tail for sure, especially as it 476 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:28,720 could be repackaged and reduced in price over time. I mean, Diablo, 477 00:22:28,759 --> 00:22:30,759 for is one of those one of those games that 478 00:22:30,839 --> 00:22:33,839 no one really thinks about as being one of the 479 00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:37,119 the big games that kind of stick around forever. But 480 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,680 it isn't like that world like the Sims, which just 481 00:22:39,799 --> 00:22:43,640 keep on drugging along for that dedicated player base. And 482 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,079 I mean it's great to see that this this really 483 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,839 is going to deliver for that player base. That's that's 484 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,599 with it. Yeah, and over time, like this is a 485 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,960 game that'll sell for ten years or more as as 486 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,559 it goes on. So yeah, that's that's great to see. 487 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,599 Speaker 3: Mike's been playing this. 488 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,599 Speaker 1: He talked about it on the BombCast yesterday, so if 489 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,799 you haven't listened to that, go give that. 490 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 3: Oh listen. 491 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,799 Speaker 1: It sounded like he was pretty happy with it. As 492 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:08,880 someone who I think was who liked the obblo for 493 00:23:09,079 --> 00:23:11,279 but but but did not necessarily love it. I don't 494 00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:12,680 even know if that's a fair way of putting it. 495 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,839 He seemed happy with the Lord of Hatred is how 496 00:23:14,839 --> 00:23:18,000 I'll phrase it. All Right, we have to take a break. 497 00:23:18,079 --> 00:23:20,240 Plenty more to get into, including our little chat here 498 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,720 about how people are feeling about that game pass price drop. 499 00:23:22,759 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 3: Will do that after this. 500 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: If you want to skip out on the ads, you 501 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,720 could do so Giant bomb dot com, slash joined, become 502 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,160 a premium member, get yad re versions of the shows. 503 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:36,240 In the meantime, we will be right back. We're back 504 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,920 with Game Mess Mornings. I'm Jeff Grubb, that's Matt Piscatella. 505 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,799 Let's get into this next story. Analyst say Xbox game 506 00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:46,400 Pass price drop is quote unsurprising after Call of Duty 507 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,240 failed to significantly increase subscriptions. This is from Chris Scullion 508 00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:53,960 at VGC. Analysts have said that Microsoft's decision to drop 509 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,759 the price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and PC Game 510 00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:59,160 Pass isn't surprising given that the addition of Call of 511 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,160 Duty had made the little impact to subscription numbers. On Tuesday, 512 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,799 Microsoft announced that it was dropping the price of Game 513 00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:08,759 Pass Ultimate from twenty nine ninety nine or thirty dollars 514 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,880 down to twenty three dollars and PC Game Pass from 515 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,519 sixteen fifty to eleven or yeah, excuse me, fourteen dollars. 516 00:24:16,519 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: There we go. 517 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,079 Speaker 1: It's all mixed in here with the pounds and euros 518 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,400 and stuff. It also announces the future of Call of 519 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,880 Duty games would not be available, or future Call of 520 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,400 Duty games would not be available on either service on 521 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,119 the day of release and would instead be added the 522 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,759 following holiday season. Speaking to Games Industry Dot is Or 523 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:36,920 Canada Senior director matpis Caadella and Ampier Analysis head of 524 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,240 games Research Peers Harding Roles both agreed that this was 525 00:24:40,319 --> 00:24:43,279 inevitable given that Xbox's hope it would see a large 526 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:45,880 growth in Game Pass Ultimate subscribers by adding Call of 527 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,920 Duty available on day one hasn't played out, Matt. It's 528 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,640 the kind of thing where like we sit back years 529 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,160 ago talk about the things that Microsoft, the levers that 530 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,720 Microsoft had that they could pull to sort of push 531 00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:01,200 this thing forward. If Starfield hits, that's the big game changer. 532 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,160 Like people loved Oblivion, they loved Skyrim, and that's the 533 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,200 thing that could really change things. It didn't change its fate, 534 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,640 and then it's like, well, they're acquiring Activision. Call of 535 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,920 Duty is the next and maybe last big lever that 536 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,759 they could pull. What's bigger than that? Now, the Call 537 00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:17,079 of Duty that did launch into game Pass had some 538 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,640 quality issues around it, But I'm of the opinion and 539 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,720 it sounds like maybe you are, and you can explain 540 00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:24,839 it yourself, that that didn't matter as much as the 541 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,640 fact that the people looking at game Pass are just 542 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,759 not necessarily looking for that deal in particular, Like that 543 00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:32,279 didn't move the needle. The people who are going to 544 00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:35,240 get game Pass already have game Pass. What do you think? 545 00:25:36,079 --> 00:25:38,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, originally game Pass was like kind of 546 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,960 situated as the best deal in gaming, and you know, yeah, 547 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,400 it didn't hold a candle to a giant bomb premium subscription, 548 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,200 which really is the best deal in gaming if you 549 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:47,680 think about it. 550 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 3: I agree. 551 00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:51,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. So when you know when call did he first 552 00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:52,960 made it to game pass, I mean we were talking 553 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,640 about this just a few weeks after that happened. We 554 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,559 did not see a particularly big bump into hardware sales. 555 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,279 We didn't see a massive increase in subscriptions. All there's 556 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,079 there's sure was an increase, and you know, in twenty 557 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,440 five the same situation, we did not see any kind 558 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,119 of bump when it comes to hardware sales and subscription 559 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,480 spending increase, but just slightly so. In terms of the experiment, 560 00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:21,799 and it was an experiment, you know, it didn't work 561 00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:24,200 out the way they wanted. I mean, Phil Spencer for 562 00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:27,400 years had talked about three billion gamers and this was 563 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,960 going to be one of those big ways to find 564 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,319 three billion gamers, right, is to bring these types of 565 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,920 games to the service. But ultimately, like you said, in 566 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,640 terms of the value proposition, thirty dollars a month became 567 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,160 pretty steep, which Microsoft itself recognized and led to the price. 568 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,119 The price decreases right now, which you know we were 569 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,720 waiting for. I was kind of surprised they just dropped 570 00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:52,519 it on a you know, just here you go and 571 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,759 a random on a random Tuesday or whatever day that was. 572 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,319 But hey, great, better better now than never? 573 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, exactly. You know. 574 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: I wonder like, do people come to you when they 575 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,359 come to you for data? Are they often asking about 576 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,960 player behaviors and how they can change consumer behaviors? How 577 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,240 do we get people to spend money here instead of there? 578 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,680 Or is that something you're like, look, we like that stuff. 579 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,279 Is we look at it after it happens? Trying to 580 00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:22,680 get people to change their behaviors is difficult? And is 581 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,319 that the wall that Microsoft is running into with gamers 582 00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:27,519 that we're kind of stubborn, we're stuck in our ways, 583 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,160 or is it just like, oh, game pass, we could 584 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,079 see it's already expensive and we know it's going to 585 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,519 have to get more expensive to justify all these games, 586 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,119 and people aren't sort of biting because of that, you know, 587 00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:38,920 to give. 588 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: Them the credit that I think they deserve. Microsoft and 589 00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:45,680 Xbox in particular have always been willing to try things 590 00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:50,240 and kind of break out of established norms. Whether they 591 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,799 have succeeded all the time or not, certainly sure, certainly debatable, 592 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,400 but a lot of these cases, like you could have 593 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,000 your research, you can go talk to players, you can say, hey, 594 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,960 what would you think about this or that or the other, 595 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,200 But ultimately you don't really know until you execute a plan, 596 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:06,599 right you say, all right, well we think this is 597 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,720 this is how this is going to go, but until 598 00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:10,680 we actually throw Call of Duty in the game pass, 599 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,160 we're not going to know what's gonna happen. And now 600 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,559 they do. So you know when one of the biggest 601 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,200 questions we've had, I mean, sometimes questions in social media 602 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:25,640 and forums that fans have are ridiculous, ridiculous. Yeah, and 603 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,079 sometimes they're the same conversations that are being had in 604 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,599 the industry. Whether or not game paths or other subscription 605 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,400 services hurts or harm sales, is the same arguments and 606 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,880 discussions internally that they are in the fan base. And 607 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,759 there is no like really crisp or clear answer to that. 608 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,000 Even now, some games benefit, some games do not benefit. 609 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,319 There are all kinds of opinions all over the place 610 00:28:56,359 --> 00:29:00,279 about whether it's good or bad. Right now, Microsoft is 611 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:02,119 that taking Call of Duty out of this equation is 612 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,839 the best thing for the brand, And perhaps it is. Well, 613 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,000 we'll have to wait and see. 614 00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 615 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,079 Speaker 1: For me, I'm at a point where I guess someone 616 00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:11,880 who talks about this stuff kind of constantly, and for 617 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,000 a long time there it was like, Hey, whoop, Xbox 618 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:18,039 is trying something that makes it newsworthy, that makes it 619 00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:21,119 worth bringing onto shows like this and having conversations about it. 620 00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:22,839 I'm definitely at a point now where it's like, I 621 00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:24,599 think we're a little bit at the end of that 622 00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:29,279 story of them trying these big interesting ideas. It's like 623 00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:33,519 they are the retreating a little bit and the novelty 624 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:36,759 of game Pass from both my perspective of observing it 625 00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:38,839 and I think from the gamer's perspective of the best 626 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,400 deal in gaming and Xbox's position. 627 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,359 Speaker 3: Of this is the future. 628 00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:45,319 Speaker 1: All that sort of like run its course now and 629 00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:47,519 game Pass is just another one of those things that's 630 00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:49,720 an option for people off to the side and they 631 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,200 have to sort of find a way to maintain it. 632 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,559 Speaker 3: Is it shifting into a long term maintenance mode. 633 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: I don't think that's the goals either. Where it's sat right. 634 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:03,559 And what's interesting is the recent reporting around whether or 635 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,079 not it's going to become more of an all a 636 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,000 cart type subscription bundling service where you could pick and 637 00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:12,319 choose potentially different types of programs that you could put 638 00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:16,000 into a game Pass subscription. I saw someone somewhere say 639 00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:19,440 that game Pass could go from being the Netflix of 640 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,880 gaming to being the cable bundle of gaming, which I 641 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,680 thought was pretty interesting take on it. And ultimately, like, 642 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,400 what looms over everything right now is the hardware component 643 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,319 parts situation and whether or not these things will get 644 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,359 so expensive that a whole bunch of people will be 645 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,960 shifted to things like cloud and what impact that could 646 00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:43,480 have long term on things like subscriptions if people can't 647 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,400 afford hardware or it's easier for them to do something else. 648 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,000 It's more of a longer term question, but these are 649 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:50,480 the things that you got to think about when you're 650 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,519 planning out a five to ten year plan. 651 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,319 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah. I think maybe one last question I have 652 00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:59,400 about this, one thing I'm thinking about is Okay, so 653 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,720 they've dropped the price, and that's certainly one of the 654 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,680 things people have been saying it's too expensive. But I 655 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,519 think a lot of people looking at this are looking 656 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:09,440 to be like, yeah, I mean it's dropped for now, 657 00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:13,680 but it's going to go back up. They at like Xbox, Microsoft, 658 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,319 have they reset the clock in such a way where 659 00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:18,880 like we recognized the price was too high, where it's 660 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,519 like it's going to be difficult for them to raise 661 00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:22,839 the price on this thing again for a couple of years. 662 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: Or or what memories are short? 663 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 3: Are short? Aren't they? 664 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:30,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? They're very short, especially in gaming, and things changed 665 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,440 very quickly. We'll have to see what the response to 666 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:35,839 this is. This is a pretty big drop in price 667 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,160 from previous level, and it's going to be very difficult 668 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,079 to get a subscriber increase enough to offset that lower 669 00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:47,160 cost per year. Yeah, we'll have to see if if 670 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,119 that works, if this works incredibly well, and then all 671 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,799 of a sudden, you know, okay, we're getting content creep again, 672 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:55,400 We're getting more content. Oh geez, you know, the math 673 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,480 is out of whack again. We have to raise the price. 674 00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:00,240 That'll be a very interesting conversation. But I mean, for 675 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:03,200 right now, with this transition at Xbox, they're saying all 676 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,599 the right things. They're doing these things that seem to 677 00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:09,559 be finding you know, a lot of positive feedback from 678 00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:12,279 the player base. We'll see if they can expand on 679 00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:14,799 that and you know, really re energize the brand, which 680 00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:17,680 is right now, you know, it's it's it's struggling a 681 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,039 little bit. 682 00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a certainly, it's like hard to as gamers 683 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,599 who love to make these brands part of their identity, 684 00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:26,759 it's got to be hard to like build that narrative 685 00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:28,680 internally as a person who wants to be a fan 686 00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:31,799 be like, hey, here's what Xbox is. It's that there's 687 00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:34,400 no really real great answer to that right now for sure. 688 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,240 All right, let's move on to Miamoto, who says he 689 00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:41,319 was surprised Mario Galaxy movie reviews were even harsher than 690 00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:44,160 the first. This comes from comes from Chris Scullion at VGC, 691 00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:45,880 who's gonna have a lot of stories on the show. 692 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,079 Speaker 3: Everybody shouts out to Chris. 693 00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: Nintendo's Shiagiro Miyamoto says he's surprised at the negative critical 694 00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,559 reception to the Super Mario Galaxy movie. As reported by Famitsu, 695 00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:58,559 Miyamoto conducted a group interview with Japanese media to mark 696 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,680 the local release of the Super Mario Galaxy Movie. During 697 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,440 the interview, Miamoto was asked for his views on the 698 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,240 critical reception to the film in the West, where critics 699 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,480 reviews have been mostly negative. Miamoto replied that while he 700 00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:12,799 understood some of the negative points aimed at the Super 701 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,400 Mario Brothers movie, he thought the reception would be better 702 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,279 for the sequel. It's true, the situation is indeed very similar, 703 00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:20,920 he said. Actually, regarding the previous film, I felt that 704 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,160 critics' opinions did hold some validity. However, I thought things 705 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,160 would be different this time around, only to find that 706 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,519 the criticism is even harsher than it was before. 707 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: It really is quite baffling. 708 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,359 Speaker 1: Here we are having crossed over from a different field, 709 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,599 working hard with the specific aim of helping to revitalize 710 00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:37,960 the film industry. Yet the very people who ought to 711 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,079 be championing that cause seem to be the ones taking 712 00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:41,160 a passive stance. 713 00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: Look, yeah, a. 714 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: Miamoto is working in a field that is different than 715 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,640 the one he's had before. I think that he does 716 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,279 bring a lot of his ways of doing things that 717 00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:54,359 he applied to video games to great success, and I 718 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,519 think he is applying that to movies to us as 719 00:33:56,559 --> 00:33:59,160 much as he can. Like, you know, he's not making 720 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,359 these movies, but he's involved in making these movies. He 721 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,359 is created as as executive producer, and I do think 722 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,039 that they go to him when they have questions about 723 00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:08,719 what he wants, and I bet he speaks up when 724 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,880 things going away that he doesn't think that they should, 725 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:14,679 and I think that's reflected on the screen. So I 726 00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:16,400 think he's like, I'm making the movies. I want to 727 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,000 make this works for games, it's going to work for movies, 728 00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:20,960 And I think there's a part of me it's like, actually, 729 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,239 these are two very different things, and the things that 730 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,039 make games good that Miamoto is good at are not 731 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:28,639 necessarily what's best for a movie. And yet I had 732 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,840 a fun time at the film whatever it's and I 733 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,159 enjoyed it, and I'm glad it's making a lot of 734 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:33,760 money because I want them to make more of it. 735 00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:35,679 But I don't know, what do you think? Have you 736 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,679 seen the Galaxy movie? Do you have an opinion on it? 737 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,719 Do you think Miamoto is kind of just a little 738 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,440 out of touch here or what I mean? 739 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: I have not seen the movie yet. I'll see it 740 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,880 in a while when it shows up on my screen downstairs. 741 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,880 I mean, you got to love and admire the passion 742 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,840 and wanting, you know, to see people connect with what 743 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,000 your vision is. But ultimately that box office is pretty good. 744 00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:02,599 So like what do you. I mean, what are you doing, dude? Like, 745 00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:08,159 look at the the consumer response has been so strong, like, yeah, 746 00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:11,639 it's a bummer, but I don't know, I wouldn't feel 747 00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:14,679 too bad about it for too long looking at the 748 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,000 box office. 749 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,559 Speaker 1: Right, and it's like, you know, I mean, maybe you'll 750 00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:21,039 remember better than me. I think after that first movie 751 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:24,239 there really was with that consumer response fueling interest in 752 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,679 the games the exact way that Nintendo said it. 753 00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:28,079 Speaker 3: That's what they were doing this for. 754 00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: The expectation is that is going to probably be replicated 755 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,400 this time around, right, Yeah. 756 00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: I mean we're already like we saw a big bump 757 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,639 in Mario Kart World sales. We saw other Nintendo games 758 00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:41,639 you know, pick up the last month as well. I 759 00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:44,800 mean sure, like and the theme parks and everything else 760 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,880 they're doing. It's all part of this big push and 761 00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:51,400 people seem to really like it, even if you know, 762 00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:56,800 the critical flaws are there, like okay, Like it's how 763 00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:02,559 it's just entertainment, man. Like everyone does the same thing 764 00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:04,920 to some of the biggest games of the year and 765 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,800 they end up selling very well. It's just part of 766 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,039 the deal. I don't know, Like I get it. I 767 00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:13,079 empathize with him, but ultimately, like, I don't think anyone's 768 00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:16,679 bummed out over there about what considers were thinking about it. 769 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's like, you know, critics do 770 00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:22,039 they want to come away with film. Critics go to 771 00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:24,360 a movie and they're like, I want to know what 772 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,920 it's about. I want to be able to talk about 773 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,719 that and have a conversation with the film, and Mario 774 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,920 movies are not doing that. I told the story on 775 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,280 the BombCast of listening to just McRoy talk about his 776 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,079 kids and him talking to them about different movies and like, 777 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:40,239 what's the theme of these Pixar films And it's like, oh, 778 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,400 they kind of understand, so oh it's growing up, or 779 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,679 it's this, it's and it's a little bit deeper. And 780 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,480 then what's the theme of the Mario movie? And the 781 00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:49,000 kids just said Mario and it's like, yeah, that's the 782 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,559 theme of the Mario movies. And I think that's what 783 00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:53,320 a lot of people, including me. I think it's what 784 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,559 a lot of people want from those movies. I want 785 00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:56,880 Mario and it delivers that. 786 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 2: Or the Minecraft movie or whatever else. Is just a 787 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,360 good time to go hang out and just turn your 788 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,239 brain off for a little bit. Because I mean, damn, 789 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,440 do the world's on fire, Like, let me go look 790 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,800 at some bright, shiny colors and happy music for a 791 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,639 little bit, lead me alone, like totally get it. 792 00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: And that's I mean, honestly, you described exactly what it 793 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,760 was for us to go as a family. 794 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,119 Speaker 3: It was, what's go in there? 795 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: Turn the world off, enjoy some bright colors and some 796 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,480 familiar sounds and point at starfucks and all that stuff, 797 00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:22,920 and it was. 798 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,199 Speaker 3: It was a good time. 799 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 2: Now, mission accomplished. 800 00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:26,559 Speaker 3: Mission accomplished. 801 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: I'll have to spoil the movie slightly for you with 802 00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:30,159 this next story. 803 00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 3: I hope that's not going to ruin it. 804 00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: Miyamoto says he wants Peach's origin story in the Super 805 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,519 Mario Galaxy Movie to remain cannon in future games. This 806 00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:41,480 is from Chris Culling at VGC as well. 807 00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 3: She hear. 808 00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: Miamoto says Peachs newly revealed backstory in the Super Mario 809 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,199 Galaxy Movie may remain canon in future games. Basically they 810 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,880 just kind of changed where she comes from and her 811 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,920 relationship to Rosalina. I won't get into this SPECIs everybody, 812 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,639 but I actually thought it was good. I'm like, this 813 00:37:56,679 --> 00:37:59,880 is a good way of doing things. It explains a 814 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,360 couple of things I had questions about, for sure, and 815 00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:05,519 he does talk about some of the reasons why he's like, 816 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,079 why they haven't made these decisions in the past. 817 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 3: I'll get to that quote here. 818 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,119 Speaker 1: Miyamoto replied that Nintendo has avoided going to the characters 819 00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:15,199 backstories too much in the past because it can limit 820 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,639 what they can do with those characters going forward. But 821 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,159 now that their past have been explored more in the movies, 822 00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:22,039 the plan is to try to establish this as the 823 00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:25,360 official lore in upcoming games. Because we don't always know 824 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,239 what kind of game we'll make next, having too many 825 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,239 character backstories can end up restricting us. Miyamoto explained again, 826 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,280 this is to Famitsu, so this is a machine translation. 827 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,880 I'm fine with being bound by the gameplay, but I 828 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,280 didn't want to be constrained by a story we've created. 829 00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:42,119 This is the reason why we had avoided making movies 830 00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:44,400 for so many years until we made this film. Then 831 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,800 we hadn't decided on Peaches origins. But now that we've 832 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,280 made the movie, it's become fun to expand on the 833 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,960 characters in various ways. Therefore, I'd like to adhere to 834 00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:55,960 the backstory established in the movies as much as possible 835 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,280 in future games. I do think it's interesting how like 836 00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:02,920 making movies and again me and Motive being very involved 837 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,559 has forced him to think about things he just didn't 838 00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,400 have to think about before. He's like, that doesn't serve 839 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,159 the game, so I don't need to come up with 840 00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:11,519 an answer to where Peach comes from. But now that 841 00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:13,960 that is something they needed for this movie, he's like, Oh, 842 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,719 I can play with that in games and kind of 843 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,719 running with that now. Again, he's not day to day 844 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,519 making games. He's an executive producer on all those. They 845 00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,719 do come to him to ask questions and stuff the 846 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,679 people on those teams. But yeah, it does feel like 847 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,920 Nintendo's becoming this like full like circle media company where 848 00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:33,280 they make games and then they make movies and one 849 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,000 informs the other. And that does seem like it's going 850 00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:38,360 to be a strength for strength for them. Does that 851 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,039 sound right to you? 852 00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:43,199 Speaker 2: It's the Mario cinematic universe extending to everything else, right, 853 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:43,679 like why. 854 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 1: It got its fingers and everything? Yeah, that's spreading. 855 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: Let's get a new ride at the theme park. It 856 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,159 will explore these I don't know, man, Like that's cool. 857 00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:55,199 Speaker 1: Sure, let's see yeah, Zacy Zacy and Chad says, the 858 00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:59,039 original Peach origin story is that she's a girl. It's like, yeah, 859 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:01,880 that's that's exactly right. And in the yeah it was. 860 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,679 It worked for the games, but now I do think 861 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,480 this could be a lot of fun as they go forward. 862 00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, give me, give me a movie where Yoshi dies forever. No, 863 00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:12,960 I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Yeah, it's terrible. It's fine. 864 00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 3: Listen, you're gonna this. This movie does. 865 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: Have some Yoshi, but you could tell they're like, they 866 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,679 just had Yoshi show up to have Yoshi. That's he's 867 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,880 just there doing a couple of Yoshi things, and they 868 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,400 tease them at the end of the last movie at 869 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,199 the credits, and then he shows up in this one. 870 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,840 It's like, Okay, now, what are they gonna do with that? 871 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,280 And the answer is he's just Yoshi. That's what they're 872 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:33,719 doing with it. 873 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 2: What do you mean back in the vault forever? That's fine. 874 00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:37,679 Speaker 3: They just shove it back in that damn egg. 875 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 2: Get out of here. 876 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,119 Speaker 3: Yoshi's Island's a great game, and I Love Yoshi. 877 00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: Gamers file class action lawsuit against Nintendo over US tariff refunds. 878 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,880 This is from Nintendo everything. According to a report from 879 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,440 game File, Shout out to Steven Totila, who does great 880 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,840 work on tracking down these legal cases. Everybody go subscribe 881 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,280 to the game File newsletter. A pair of gamers have 882 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,280 filed a class section lawsuit against Nintendo. This will represent 883 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,719 everyone in the US who purchased products impacted by a 884 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,280 price increase during between February first, twenty twenty five and 885 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,320 February twenty fourth, twenty twenty six. Greg Grayhawford and Poschant 886 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,119 Sharon say they bought Nintendo products that saw a price 887 00:41:18,119 --> 00:41:21,360 increase because of tariffs. As stated by game File, they're 888 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,760 now claiming that the company will be unjustly enriching itself 889 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,559 with any refund it secures from the US government over 890 00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:30,960 widespread tariffs last year that, among other things, hug the 891 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,360 prices of Nintendo hardware and accessories. This is like the 892 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,280 next parts, like the key thing here that they're kind 893 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,119 of trying to argue and less restrained by this court. 894 00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:42,559 Nintendo stands to recover the same tariff payment twice, once 895 00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:45,599 from consumers through higher prices and again from the federal 896 00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:49,039 government through tariff refunds, including interest paid by the government 897 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,480 on those funds. God, I don't know, man, this is 898 00:41:54,519 --> 00:41:56,519 this seems kind of crazy. I think it's I want 899 00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:57,679 to hear what the court. 900 00:41:57,519 --> 00:42:00,599 Speaker 3: Thinks I will be I won't be shocked, gets. 901 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,599 Speaker 1: Like thrown out, but if it doesn't, I will be 902 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,920 interested to hear the reasoning of all this, because it 903 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,519 does seem like that is a little wit will be 904 00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:13,039 scary for the kinds of companies to have a lot 905 00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:15,880 of sway in this economy and this government and in 906 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,440 this country of Hey, we want to have the freedom 907 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,719 to raise prices for whatever reason we want, and then 908 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,280 we don't have to We won't want to answer for 909 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,599 why we did that, no matter what the reason is. 910 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,519 And it's like, well, why shouldn't you, I don't know 911 00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:30,719 what What do you make of this, Matt. 912 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a complete mess. And this isn't the only 913 00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:34,320 one of these. 914 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 3: No, it won't be no way happening. 915 00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:39,679 Speaker 2: Across the board. And now that the portal was established 916 00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:44,639 for companies to submit for a reimbursement from the government, 917 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,239 right and some of the comments from the administration, particularly 918 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,679 the President, around how he'll remember what companies don't submit 919 00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:58,920 for those reimbursements it's it's a it's a very messy, sticky, 920 00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:03,079 ugly situation across the board. I'm also very interesting to 921 00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:07,079 see where this goes. Consumer sentiment is strongly against tariff's 922 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:10,199 seventy two percent. I think it was of our respondents 923 00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:14,239 in our survey work thought that tariffs increase prices. And 924 00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:17,519 some of the estimates you see about how much tariffs 925 00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:21,519 cost the average consumer last year can range anywhere, but 926 00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:24,519 you know, between fifteen hundred and two thousand dollars depending 927 00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:28,400 on who you talk to. It's significant. And yeah, as 928 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,639 a consumer, you'd expect some of those dollars to get 929 00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:33,960 back to you. Will they That's a great question. But 930 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,880 this is going to take a long time to untangle, 931 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,519 and it's going to be very messy. 932 00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:41,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that is always the story with tariffs 933 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,480 is they are messy no matter what. And usually the 934 00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:47,719 story is they're so messy and entangled, we just don't 935 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,320 get rid of them. 936 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 3: They stick with us forever. 937 00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: Now the court stepped in and actually struck them down, 938 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,360 and so it's like, now we get the fun mess 939 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,960 of actually getting to entanglement and seeing what that looks like. 940 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,559 And it's going to be a mess in its own way. 941 00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:02,880 It's this is often the problem with tariffs is they 942 00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:05,960 just create so many more headaches than anyone can ever predict, 943 00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:08,920 and and here we are dealing with it yet again. 944 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,079 I think it's I want to see what happens with 945 00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:13,519 a case like this, and like you said, it's gonna 946 00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:14,599 happen across the economy. 947 00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 3: We're going to see this over and over and over again. 948 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,599 Speaker 1: And uh and yeah, I mean the stated reason from 949 00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:21,639 a lot of these companies of why they erase prices 950 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,519 is tariffs. I think it's less likely that if they 951 00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:26,840 just raise prices that they're gonna be like a lot 952 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,800 of these cases like this will win. But if there's 953 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,239 like fees added on top and they're called like tariff 954 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,760 surg charges, those are the ones that might be a 955 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,719 little bit more susceptible to something like this because it's 956 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,760 just so clean cut. 957 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 3: But again, we're gonna have to wait and see what 958 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,000 the courts think. 959 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, last couple of stories here. Echo the 960 00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:48,000 Dolphin Complete announced. This is from Salamano at Gamatsu A 961 00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:51,599 and r at Tillier has announced Echo the Dolphin Complete, 962 00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:54,719 a remaster collection including all versions of Echo the Dolphin 963 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,480 and Echo the Tides of Time. Those are the first 964 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,719 two games, as well as a new Echo game that 965 00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,039 stends the journey into the modern era. 966 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,280 Speaker 3: Platforms in release date were not announced. Fantastic. I like 967 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,480 Echo the Dolphin quite a bit. 968 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: I don't it doesn't seem to include Echo Junior. People 969 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,119 are asking, I don't see Echo Defender of the Future here. 970 00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:15,960 I don't think that's included. Although these these kinds of 971 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,280 collections often do get updated later with free editions. I 972 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,760 wouldn't be surprised if something like Echo Junior gets added. 973 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,880 You an Echo the Echo the Dolphin fan Matt Piscatella. 974 00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:27,119 Speaker 2: I've played some Echo the Dolphin, but every time I 975 00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:30,079 think I've Echoed the Dolphin, I think a Semen. I 976 00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:32,280 always wonder like if Semen's part of the Echo of 977 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,599 the Dolphins, you know universe, And if it is, and 978 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,519 maybe it should be, where's this Semen collection? 979 00:45:38,159 --> 00:45:40,199 Speaker 3: That's what I Yes, they need to put those games 980 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:40,639 back out. 981 00:45:40,679 --> 00:45:45,079 Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get a remaster remake of Semen. What what 982 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:45,840 can go wrong? 983 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 3: Nothing? Absolutely nothing can go wrong. 984 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,639 Speaker 1: We'll get Look, let's put you to some of these 985 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,599 microphones built into the PS five controllers. 986 00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:55,519 Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, last couple of stories. 987 00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:59,039 Speaker 1: Like I said, Ubisoft has scrapped its Animal Crossing Competitors 988 00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:00,760 from Jonas Mackia Game Reactor. 989 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 3: What I'll Terra is the name of that game. 990 00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 1: There was a time when like half of the games 991 00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:08,400 maybe more that Ubi stuff were putting out could be 992 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,079 described as SIMS competitors or Animal Crossing clones or or whatever. 993 00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:16,039 They had like the my uh what were they called, 994 00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:18,960 like my Babies with the Z and stuff like that. 995 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,480 They had a ton of that stuff and it seemed 996 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,559 like a pretty big basic business for them. And now 997 00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:25,000 we're in a world where when we do have these 998 00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:28,519 games like Animal Crossing and Impacopia and told me about 999 00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:31,119 you life, they are popping off, but they do come 1000 00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:34,199 from like a handful of companies, and like you mentioned earlier, 1001 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,119 the SIMS just chugs along and that audience is so dedicated. 1002 00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:40,760 What like, what do you think you is thinking here, 1003 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,639 like oh we like this, we can't crack into this market, 1004 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,079 or it's just not worth the squeeze or. 1005 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,559 Speaker 3: What was it like? 1006 00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 2: It was Imagine babies, wasn't it wasn't Imagine babies. 1007 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: Yes, imagine they had always imagine Imagine cats, Imagine all 1008 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:53,800 kinds of stuff. 1009 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 3: That's what it was. 1010 00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:58,119 Speaker 2: The Brainstar Works. Uh Ubi's going through it right, like 1011 00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:02,239 they've been undergoing some significant change over the last couple 1012 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,519 of stays. So I can only imagine all the projects 1013 00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:08,119 that are projects that got canceled that we've never heard 1014 00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:12,199 about to begin with, as they've redone everything, and how 1015 00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:15,119 they're approaching the business. I mean, but yeah, this type 1016 00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:18,960 of thing, when you have established competitors and established players 1017 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,480 in these spaces, breaking into them exceptionally difficult. And if 1018 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,639 you don't think you can do it, better to cut 1019 00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:25,599 it while you cut it early rather than later. 1020 00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:28,519 Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely all right. 1021 00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:32,119 Speaker 1: And then Street Fighters six year four DLC characters a leak. 1022 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,320 Maybe this is a rumor. There's a reason I'm putting 1023 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,599 here at the end. We don't know if this is 1024 00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:37,559 accurate everybody, but I'll let you know what people are 1025 00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:40,440 out there saying this is from Nintendo Everything. A New 1026 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,000 Week is making the round which claims to have outed 1027 00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:47,079 the identities of DLC characters for Street Fighter six year four. 1028 00:47:47,519 --> 00:47:50,559 Speaker 3: The character's name come from R. N. K Lucius, who has. 1029 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,679 Speaker 1: An accurate, accurate track record for these kinds of leaks. 1030 00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:57,559 Let's see here the rumored DLC characters for year four 1031 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,519 are Vega, Hagar, Gookin I can't I can't remember I 1032 00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:03,880 say his name, but that's like the guy that trained 1033 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,039 Reu and Ken and Tifa. The last one is a 1034 00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:09,320 big name in particular as this as it be a 1035 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,400 new crossover. Tifa, of course, is one of the main 1036 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,639 characters in Final Fantasy seven. I think the expectation is 1037 00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:18,599 she would show up in Teken, but no, it's maybe 1038 00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:19,519 it's she's showing up here. 1039 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 3: Sean was saying, who's our like fighting game expert? 1040 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,639 Speaker 1: That maybe because Capcom and Square Enix maybe had to 1041 00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:30,920 work together because Alex, the most recent character, does some 1042 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,360 Final Fantasy style moves because it's based on Kenny Omega, 1043 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,280 who does a lot who has a lot of moves 1044 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,239 named after Final Fantasy stuff, including one winged angel. Maybe 1045 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,840 there were some conversations there already happening, and it's like 1046 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,840 they got talking like why not put Tifa in there 1047 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,679 as well? So I won't be surprised if this is 1048 00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:48,840 the exact list of characters. 1049 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,559 Speaker 3: I would love to see Vega back and have our 1050 00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:53,039 That would be fantastic. 1051 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: All right, that does it for the headlines. Let's start 1052 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,159 wrapping up the show. We have the poll question for Monday. 1053 00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:02,159 Let me get the most recent results for that by 1054 00:49:02,199 --> 00:49:03,440 refreshing this page. 1055 00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 3: Here we go. This is it. 1056 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 1: Which Zelda story do you think the movie is most 1057 00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:09,519 likely based on? 1058 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 3: Options? 1059 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: Were Breath of the Wild, Okerina of Time, or a 1060 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,599 different Zelda story. Twenty two percent think it'll be based 1061 00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:18,199 on Breath of the Wild, which I think is fair. 1062 00:49:18,199 --> 00:49:19,559 Speaker 3: It's like, what is that story again? 1063 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,039 Speaker 1: Thirty two percent say a different Zelda story and forty 1064 00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:25,719 six percent say Ockera of Time. I think that is 1065 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,880 the safe money if you want to go take all 1066 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,280 that to the prediction markets and just make a fortune. 1067 00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:32,760 Don't do that, Please God, don't do that. What do 1068 00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:34,960 you think, Matt, Matt, we think about this movie? 1069 00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 3: Story? 1070 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 2: Great? I don't know. All I know from playing all 1071 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,400 tho Zelda games is you run around and you smash 1072 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,199 things and then your your sword break. So hey whatever, cool, 1073 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,480 All of them are good for me. Great? Whatever, people 1074 00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:51,199 love I love it? 1075 00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1076 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,559 Speaker 1: I think they did, just like like take what they need, right, 1077 00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:57,519 just don't don't force anything that that'll probably be the 1078 00:49:57,519 --> 00:49:59,199 most awkward thing if they just try to force something. 1079 00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:00,800 Because it was in one of the the games. Just 1080 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,440 take the components that you need. All right, we have 1081 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,000 a new pool question. We'll get to this here in 1082 00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:07,039 a second. Before we do that, though, Matt, why don't 1083 00:50:07,039 --> 00:50:08,360 you tell people where they can find you on the 1084 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,639 internet if that's even something that you want them to do. 1085 00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 2: If you want to talk about video game sales stuff, 1086 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,079 why not. I'm on the Blue Skies at Matt Piscatella 1087 00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:21,119 with one tu because my mom. Anyways, it's a long storry. 1088 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,400 I'm also on LinkedIn, but but don't go on LinkedIn. 1089 00:50:25,559 --> 00:50:29,119 You don't have to, Like Jesus, save yourself. It's terrible. 1090 00:50:29,559 --> 00:50:31,800 But I'm over there posting things too, because it's all 1091 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,639 about business. So yeah, come hang out. Let's schott video games. 1092 00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:38,679 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I love it. I always appreciate you. 1093 00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: You do a great job of like people come out 1094 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,880 you with questions and you always seem to do your 1095 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,880 best to give them an honest answer. You're like, yeah, 1096 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,760 if you were wondering about that, I have here's what 1097 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,599 I can tell you. And I always appreciate that. 1098 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the video game's long history of transparency. I try 1099 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,079 to break through that as as much as I can 1100 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,239 without resulting in a lot of angry emails and phone calls, 1101 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,960 so I do my best exactly. 1102 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 3: It's like there's and there's a lot of people that 1103 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,039 work at these companies. This is what you know. 1104 00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:03,679 Speaker 1: I talked to them that they want people to know 1105 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,079 they do, but there's just a lot of reasons not 1106 00:51:06,159 --> 00:51:07,760 for them, but for them to not say anything. 1107 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 3: And that's where we're still at all. 1108 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: Right, New Pool question, Are you more interested in Game 1109 00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:14,119 Pass now that it's cheaper? 1110 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,559 Speaker 3: Yes? Or no? I know there's a lot of nuanced there. 1111 00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: I know it's like maybe you already have it, like 1112 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,760 I'm not more interested in it, but I guess I'm 1113 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,440 happy answer this question however you want to interpret it. 1114 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,119 Speaker 3: I just kind of want to get a general sentiment. 1115 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:24,800 Yes or no? 1116 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: Are you more interested now that it's cheaper. We'll get 1117 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,880 the results. Talk about it here on Game Mess Mornings. 1118 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,119 On Giant Bomb tomorrow speaking a Giant Bomb. It's Wednesday. 1119 00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:36,960 It's time for Blight Club. Dan's got like forty minutes 1120 00:51:37,039 --> 00:51:40,599 left in space ace for Super Nintendo. Everybody, so tune in. 1121 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:41,960 Maybe he beats it today. 1122 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 3: We'll see. That's gonna be a lot of fun. 1123 00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:48,199 Speaker 1: Earlier today, Jan Am I correct that that quick look, 1124 00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:51,400 the preview quick look for Yoshi and the Mysterious Book 1125 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:51,800 went up. 1126 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 3: There you go. 1127 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: Everybody go check that out now. Lots of cool stuff 1128 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,360 happening over on giant bomb dot com. Thanks again, everybody 1129 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,679 for tuning in and checking that out. Matt, thank you 1130 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,840 for hanging out with me today and talking about video games. 1131 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,079 Speaker 3: Man, I really appreciate it. 1132 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,559 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. It's always a blast. Really, I really 1133 00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:08,880 love being in saying hi to all the dude's out there. 1134 00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:09,760 It's a good time. 1135 00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:12,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, we love it as well. You're one of the 1136 00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:14,840 favorite guests. We'll make it happen again here real soon. 1137 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,039 In the meantime, thank you everybody for tuning in, thank 1138 00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:20,239 you for watching, and thank you for listening. We really 1139 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,280 appreciate it. Until next time, have a good one, take 1140 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,760 care of yourself, and goodbye.