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Speaker 1: What is up Fellasiko's I am damn Valley coming at

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you with my Certifiantabias coast, mister Grandon Hughes with a

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little piece of bonus content. I guess you could say

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it's depressing bonus content though, Grant, then through you are, Yeah,

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if you own any of the six or Huture draft picks,

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maybe maybe you're feeling pretty good. Although they have a

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good amount of their future draft picks, which is what

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we're going.

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Speaker 2: To talk about here.

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Speaker 1: There is some Joelle Embiid news. Uh if it's not

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good news, but per Sham Shrania, Joel Ebid is gonna

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be reevaluated in seven to ten days. He will received

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treatment to address swelling in his left knee. The Sixers

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say Embiid participated in an on court workout Thursday and

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experience an increase in n swelling following the session. People

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are up in arms Grant because they think the Sixers

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are lying. And I did see I think it was

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Mike O'Connor on Twitter set And by the way through

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all this, Joel Ebid last played Gien fourth and a

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win over the nets for I think he's playing like

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thirty minutes twenty nine minutes or whatever they said. The

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most charitable way to interpret this is the Sixers are

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not lying and that as soon as Embiid went to

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work out after ten days off, he injured his knee,

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which is just a disastrous sign coming off a four year,

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one hundred ninety million dollar extension. The big question, and

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before you answer, we'll throw up what their kind of

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pickout lay looks like on the screen? Is it time

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for the Philadelphia seventy six ers to tank if they're

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not doing so already?

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Speaker 2: So I think the answer to that question depends on

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several factors, like when do you think they might get

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another shot at a highly valuable draft selection? Should that matter?

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And then you view that against the backdrop of which

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which has kind of been how we've talked about the

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Sixers really the last several years of like does anything

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matter if Joel Embiid isn't healthy? Like is does? Does

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any roster building makes sense? From like a win now

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or win in short to medium term perspective? Like if

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Embiide is this, which is to say, basically not available

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and not you know, a superstar when he is, like

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what are you even building towards? And like a what

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is your timeline, what are your priorities. It's all just

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kind of thrown up in the air. So that's that's

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most pertinent, because that first round pick this year is

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gonna go to the thunder if it falls between seven

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and thirty, And that's the immediate concern, like, what do

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you want to have happen with that if you are

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the sixers, And we have to sort of discuss all

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those related issues to get to something that resembles an answer.

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Speaker 1: So let's look at it through this season's lens alone.

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First to that, to guarantee that they keep that top

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six pick, they have to finish with a bottom two record.

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That's the only way that you can guarantee you get

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the sixth overall pick or better. Now, if you finish

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with a third worst record, you have a ninety three

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percent chance of keeping that pick. If you finish with

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the fourth worst records, you're kind of looking at like

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an eighty percent chance a little bit more than that

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of keeping it. That's I mean, those odds are fine,

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but you have to first get to a bottom four record.

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And as we record this for rickety Rocky Terribles, this

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season has been they are seven losses in front of

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the fourth worst team in the NBA. So there's seven,

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like they have to make up seven losses somewhere and

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then some is there enough time to do that? And

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then what is the like you could start ticking off, like, Okay,

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if you finish with the fifth worst record, you have

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like a sixty percent chance of keeping the pick. Kind

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I'm just kind of ballparking it here.

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Speaker 2: So how about eighth worst, because that's what they are

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right now? Do you have tankathon up? Will that tell

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you what that is?

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Speaker 1: So if they're the eighth worst, I mean they have

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you have to land inside the top four at that point,

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and they're chances of landing inside the top four would

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be I don't know, eighteen, like twenty five percent a

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Speaker 2: Man, that's that's not favorable.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not so. I just I mean, even if

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you get down to the seventh worth record, we're talking

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about thirty two thirty three percent? Maybe is that does

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that do a forty grant?

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Speaker 2: That's still pretty scary although so like so if you're

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just going by that math, you would say, I think

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is what you're driving towards, like it like a full

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tank whatever that looks like the payoff is just so

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uncertain that it's not really quite worth it, right, Like

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that that's what the math would would dictate your plans

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are I do think you've got to weigh that against like, well,

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what are you gonna get out of like, quote unquote

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pushing this year for as many wins as you can get,

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Like what's the positive? What what are your expected returns

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on that? And if the answer is, well, if the

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answer does not, if the calculus does not include Embiid

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gets healthy at some point and you have him for

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the playoffs, looking you know, at eighty five to ninety

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percent of what his peak, I don't know, does it matter,

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well try to tank, try to keep that pick and

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luck into number one or something, because you're dead in

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the water if Embiid is you know, unavailable, not you know,

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an all NBA level player in the postseason anyway. So

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the math is what it is, and the odds are

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what they are. But like I'm I'm still not convinced

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that the slim chance of getting a really high pick

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is a worse play than like pushing through and trying

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to do as well as you can this year. Is

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that does is that like a flawed way to think

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about it in your mind?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. But as you kind of mentioned,

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if EMBIID is just kind of cooked for this season,

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let's not even we'll get into the long term mass

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back of it. Thanking at that point looks like what

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Jared McKay's already done for the year. Paul George be

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in and out of the lineup. Anyway, even if you

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don't bet so, is it just shutting down Tyr's and

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even is Tyrese Maxi alone gonna So I would view

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it as if you don't think Joel will be is

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ever gonna get right this season, why not just to

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pick to Okac, but what is what is the difference

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between sending like the pick is gone then if you

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send the let's say, the seventh pick versus the thirteenth.

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Speaker 2: Pick, like what who cares? Yeah, so you're saying tank

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Speaker 1: That looks just we need more information on EMBIID. But

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as you mentioned, like their schedule coming up is not

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particularly favorable, so maybe you kind of use you know,

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do you use the gauge of, well, let's see how

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they do against the the the Nuggets, the Calves and

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and the Celtics and the Mavericks, and so it's just

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you could I would say, why not just increase your

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odds if you think, like, because what's the point of

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this season? If you're not, like, do you think I'll

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frame it to you this way instead? Do you think

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that they can make the playoffs without Joel Embiid?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, if you get in through the play

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in that's possible. They definitely cannot win a postseason series,

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which is kind of really what should be the deciding

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factor anyway. But like so so I guess I guess, yes,

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does that is that does that change anything for you? Like,

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me want to go for it. If like, making the

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playoffs is the payoff you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's just because there'd be value in

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just I mean, getting to the playoffs is okay, we

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don't have a bead at least the ownership. We'll be

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happy you make gate revenue. And I guess to your point,

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court without Joel Embiid, there are plus three per one

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hundred possessions about with a one twenty offensive rating. But

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it's just then it'd be different if George was a

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billboard of like durability.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would say too, the other potential positive of like, Okay,

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if they make the playoffs, it probably means Paul George

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stays pretty healthy and plays well, So like that's okay.

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Speaker 1: But there are you kind of burning through your good

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Paul George reps. Don't you try?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe that, but also maybe then you just feel

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better about next year and like, you know, trying again

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with and hoping Embiid, hope against hope that Embiid is healthy.

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might only have one hundred good games left in him,

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and you don't want to burn thirty or forty of

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them to get the sixth, eighth seed or ninth seed

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Speaker 1: I am ultimately against tanking for them. Don't necessarily see

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the point if they If if you could guarantee me

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you have this top six draft prospect, which is a

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nice consolation prize for not making the playoffs in this season,

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going off the rails, what's the move from there? How

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team do with Jared McCain. Came in as a rookie,

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made an impact. But if you get the sixth overall pick,

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you're not working with a massive cap hold, and when

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you go into their salary for next season, they I mean,

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Abridge junior on the books. You'll have KAYLEB Martin, So

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the books. You can step lader your way to something.

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that pick as a trade asset, because what's the the

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best player that you're going to Let's just say the

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with what else you have available, and we have the

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Speaker 2: Be pretty close to the second apron. I mean, so

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this is just a huge complicating factor and one that

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differentiates it from like you're trying to think of like

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analogous situations, And the one that came to mind for

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me was, Okay, so the Cavs get the number one pick,

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it's Andrew Wiggins, they trade it to Minnesota and get

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Kevin Love and add Kevin Love to a team that

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Like that can't happen here because like you get if

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and you get number one and you take Cooper Flag

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and not saying you would trade him, but you're gonna

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trade him for a star fourth player to add to

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MB George MAXI like, can't really do it because the

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salary constraints, like Flag doesn't make enough. Like that's just

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maybe you can trade the pick for something the most.

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Speaker 1: I'm even sorry to interrupted, like the most that that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and assuming.

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Speaker 1: That the draft, like whoever signed signs for the one

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hundred and twenty percent of the rookie scale, which is

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the average, the largest cap hold would be thirteen point

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eight million as a standalone.

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Speaker 2: That's the number one pick. And what are you get

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in with that? You know, and nothing that's valuable enough

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you're keeping that player, if you get it, so.

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Speaker 1: Then doesn't it if you want to tank? Are you

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hoping then that this gives you the opportunity to tear

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it down? Doesn't that seem what this would be more about?

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Speaker 2: Maybe? Or you're like this class is so good that

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the rookie we get might actually be one of our

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five closers or something like that. I mean, that's I

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don't know what the odds of that are not high,

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but like if it's flag just I don't know, it's

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not going to be flagg but if it's flagged, then

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maybe you're like, Okay, if this is now twenty five

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to twenty six, is looking really good you because you

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just add him to your three veterans And I don't

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know if to see what happens, but like, I wonder,

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how how do you think Darryl Moury looks at the

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calculus here, because he's always concerned with just championship equity.

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And I could imagine him deciding, or him in the

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front and the and the their analytics department in the

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front office deciding that our chances of winning a championship

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this year are x our chances of winning a championship

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in the next five years if we tank and get

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a blue chip you know, maybe the first overall pick

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or why I could see why just being higher than next,

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Like if there's no chance they're winning a championship this

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year or next, then shouldn't shouldn't you go for the

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long odds crack at the at the high pick. I

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don't know, but I bet that's how they're thinking of it.

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Speaker 1: If he decides to say, what would he Let's say

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this is too high. But if he he they have

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a two percent chance of winning the championship this year

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at their current record, they would have a twenty six

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point two percent chance of key of landing in the

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top four and keeping their pick. Do you think he

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would gravitate towards that or is a one percent or two?

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Because the way you're from me, if they decided, well,

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we just don't have a chance of winning the championship

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this year, that it almost makes sense. Let's just tank,

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see what happens, and if it doesn't, like we sent

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a good pick away, it was gonna kind of happen anyway.

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I wasn't looking at it through that, but that kind

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of makes sense. So it comes down to I mean,

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it does come back to Joel Embiid, right, But is it?

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The other question here, though, is what is now the

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sixers chances of winning a championship with this corps in general?

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Like does this what's go? We've known this stuff about

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Joel embid now forever, but does this change the calculus?

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They signed him to the four year, one hundred nineteen

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million dollar extension, dealing with more injuries. Again, you can't

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feel good about what's happening, But does this change your

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impression of forget about their pick this year? And I

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also think it's pretty clear that they're not using any

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of their assets to make trades this season.

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Speaker 2: I'd be pretty guess would be got only definite thing

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out of all of this is they're not gonna make

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win now trades that give up future first. That would

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be insane.

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Speaker 1: So let's here. The most likely outcome seems like they're

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gonna send what is a blottery pick or something close

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to it to Okay, see this year. Where do you

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go from there? Given what's going on with Joelmbeid right now?

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Speaker 2: So if that pick goes this year, I mean, that's

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to me, that is well. I mean, the one positive

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is you've conveyed it and the protections are lighter for

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next year, so that like it's even scarier because it's

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a top four protection in twenty seven, So you don't

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have to worry about that anymore. As far as like

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what you do, you're it's not any nothing changes, You're

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just like, is embiid good and healthy?

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Speaker 1: Cool?

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Speaker 2: We're gonna contend if he's not, we got nothing like,

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that's just I don't know. I don't know, Like are

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you asking, like do you try to trade him? Are

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you asking?

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Speaker 1: Like do you that that's fair? You we'd have to

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get into Okay, well, what team is going to I

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mean some team would trade for him. The contract does

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not look great at the moment, and it runs through

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so when his extension is over, he has a player

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option in twenty twenty eight, twenty nine is age thirty

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four season, a sixty nine point one million dollar player option.

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I just those out years, I mean, the present years

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aren't going well as so shouldn't you you have MAXI,

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you have McCain. And again we're assuming they won't have

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their draft pick this year, Like, don't you kind of

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at that point, see all right, like what could we

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get for Paul George and Joel Embiid? And we like,

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isn't starting over or starting almost over? Doesn't it have

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to be on the table now?

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Speaker 2: Yes? And I do think that possibility is another reason

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I would be tempted to really aggressively tank and try

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to keep this pick and hope it lands at the

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very top of what everyone agrees as an awesome draft

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because if you land, if you get a top whatever, three, four,

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five pick, then at least like when you then at

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least you have like a way forward, like and it

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maybe that's in the form of this guy actually helps

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and embiid is like good enough to play fifty games

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and whatever. But also maybe it means like we have

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a new cornerstone that's gonna be here when we blow

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all the rest of this up and get a bunch

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more picks and we're building a team around a guy

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that's like nineteen years old right now, Like I just

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think every way we look at this, and I, by

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the way, let me ask you, like, do you think

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that the sort of embid era of the sixers as

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contenders is over? Like or have you gone there yet? Uh? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I just when is he going? Like even if he's like,

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what is he gonna look like when he's available? Like

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it's done? Yeah, So it has to be done, right.

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Speaker 2: I hate to use like a seven to ten days

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because of nie swelling thing as like the thing that's

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pushing me over the edge on this. But it's not

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just that, it's the accumulation of everything over basically his

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whole career, I ask, because I'm kind of there too,

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Like I just it's not definite, But like, what when

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does a situation like this turn around? Like he's he's

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on the back half of his career which started with

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injuries and has been defined by them throughout, Like what,

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so this is going to magically be fixed next year

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when he's a year older, Like I just like, what,

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how can you believe that? So if that's the case,

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and the odds are at least extremely long, that Embiid

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can be the centerpiece on a team that does great

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in the regular season and goes through multiple playoff rounds,

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which he's never done before, by the way, So why

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are we assuming that's going to happen now? If if

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that's where we are, then you tank and keep tanking

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like you're starting over. You just don't know it yet.

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That that's like kind of the coldest way to look

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at it, I think, And I don't know that it's wrong.

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Speaker 1: Well, how do you think that the obligation they owe

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after Okay se to Brooklyn in twenty twenty seven impacts

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this at all? So it's top eight per ten through

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twenty twenty eight, and then it turns into a second,

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you have to be pretty bad to guarantee still be

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pretty bad, I mean, to guarantee that you're gonna keep

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your time. I mean, like if it was this year,

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they'd be on pace to keep.

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Speaker 2: It, right, I mean, is it should we look at

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this as you're gonna give up one of these to

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the thunder? Uh So just one of these as a

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first so just make sure it's only one, you know,

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like instead of two, because you you really hate to

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give up.

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Speaker 1: Two if you are gonna burn it down though that

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would also consist of trading Paul George. Would the time

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to do that be this season or is it over

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the off season?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you got it, it's probably not this

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season because everybody's terrified of big contracts. If you're not

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in the Jimmy Butler business for that money and what

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he wanted an extension, are you in the Paul George business?

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Because how different is that really going forward? Right? Minus

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the headaches and stuff? But like I guess I would

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just buy default. Say this trade downline doesn't seem to

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be the time to trade anybody, Like I think maybe

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you wait until the summer, but you have to be

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thinking about it. You might even think about Maxie. I

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don't know, like maybe you moved put Maxie out there?

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Who knows, well.

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Speaker 1: I guess I was thinking about do you see if

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anyone would take him this season without sending back the

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most damaging money. But because okay, let's say Bradley Beal

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would waive his no trade clause to go to Philly.

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Is Phoenix doing the same trade they're doing for Butler

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for Paul George? And if you're the Sixers, do you

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consider that because Bradley Beal's okay, you're saddled with a

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no trade clause then, but his deal is it amounts

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to one year shorter than Paul George's.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't love that for I don't love it.

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I mean I like it for Phoenix. I like it

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better for Phoenix, I guess because I think Paul George

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still is just a better player than bial and they

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don't seem to care about how long that money's gonna

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go out, and they don't have their picks anyway, so

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they might as well try to try to be better.

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I don't like it at all for the Sixers, just

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because Beal. Yeah, man, that's just no.

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Speaker 1: There are no good trades, Dan, we don't have any

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The The idea was basically you would only do it

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to get that twenty thirty. So now you're just like,

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you've got this bigger stash and you're gonna go through

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the next two years or three years of this rebuild.

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I just because, but also, if you the sooner you

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move Paul George, unless you're gonna shut him down at

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some point, which maybe you do. If you are gonna

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just see, well let's just tak and see if we

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keep our pick or not moving Paul George would presumably

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help that effort.

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Speaker 2: Presumably. Yeah. Yeah, I mean you could just not play him. Basically,

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it wouldn't be that hard to sell that he's injured or.

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Speaker 1: Just And what you're not doing is you're not attaching

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picks to any of these guys to get them off.

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Speaker 2: No that I mean you can if you're if you're

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doing what we think they should do, you've got to

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keep all your own picks are precious.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, man, It's it's right, it's it's

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it's a rough development. But I keep coming back to, like,

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how different are things real for the Sixers than they've

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ever been. It's just you they go as embiid goes,

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and if he can't, if he's done as the level

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of player he was, then you gotta Then then so

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is the team. Like so if he's done, you are,

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so you gotta just pivot. I guess whatever that looks

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like whenever that has to happen.

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Speaker 1: Finally, though, what would you actually expect them to do?

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Speaker 2: I would expect them to at least consider the like

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the wisdom of tanking and probably conclude that, like, we

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can't get bad enough to really make this payoff in

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a sure way and kind of just go through this

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season as what they are. I would hope they wouldn't

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do that, but I kind of that feels like the

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most likely outcome to me, like not gonna treat anybody,

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just see how we do.

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Speaker 1: You might have sold me on tanking like this, Okay,

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Joel Bee's done for the year. This is lost money

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because I don't think going to nuclear out if they do,

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I agree, what happen over the offseason, I don't expect

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that though. I think they would have to win the

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draft lottery, and even then if you could, like I mean,

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but that's the problem too, is Okay, you have Cooper flag.

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If you want to stay under the second aprons that

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you can combine contracts. I guess over the offseason you

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can combine those contracts and then just finish under the

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second apron. But at the same time, if you're trading

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for a really good player, the odds of you getting

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cheaper in the process are very slim. It's so confusing,

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But my point being, you've almost talked me to the

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idea of as of right now, you have a twenty

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six pointy two percent chance of landing in the top

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four if you finish here, and do you think they

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can out tank anybody that's below them? Yeah, so you

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have Brooklyn, Portland, Utah, Toronto, Charlotte, New Orleans, and Washington,

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not necessarily at all like all those You know, those

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teams are as incentivized or more so, and just as

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bad or worse.

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Speaker 2: So like that, like, how do you get they have

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to be so much worse than so many of those

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teams to guarantee that pick. I still think if it's me,

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I'm trying and worst case scenario, like you said, you

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give up the number eight pick or the number seven

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pick or whatever. But at least that's off at least

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that's done. That that's the upside. I think if I'm

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the Sixers, I think what the Sixers are thinking, maybe

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if they're not doing the Darryl Morey math that I

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suggested of like championship equity, is they're saying, well, this

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summer in Bead's not gonna be in the Olympics. We

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get a full season, full offseason or rehab. Yeah, we

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got it. Well, we never really got to never really,

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we never got to see these three guys for an

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extended stretch. Let's go into next year. We'll make some

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kind of trade with our picks in the offseason and

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try to add more talent, and and let's take a

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shot at it. I just don't I don't think the

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payoff is very likely if they go that route.

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Speaker 1: My whole thing though, is they're not gonna So as

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of right now, they're at the eighth worst record. The

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only team that's in danger of being worse than the

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moving forward, I think when you look at the like

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the other team are the Bulls, and so I would

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say because like the Warriors, the Spurs, the Sun of

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the King, the Pistons, the Heat, like those don't seem

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like team first of all the sixers have a bunch

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of losses on most of those teams already, So I

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think you could also just look at it this way,

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as if you stay the course, at worst, you're gonna

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have a twenty one percent chance of keeping your pick.

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How much different if you tank and you end up

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with a twenty six percent chance, or maybe you're able

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to out tank the Nets or the Blazers or something,

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So they could just stay the course and the odds

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might not change that. That's probably what ends up happening.

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But you sold me on the idea of if you

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just sit here and say you have a zero percent

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chance of winning the title this season, having going after

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a twenty six percent chance of keeping this pick, and

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then you just figure out what to do, like the

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if the nightmare scenario is like you end up with

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a top four prospect and you have to figure out

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whether to rebuild or turn them into a player that

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helps you. That's a pretty fucking great problem.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's you. You trade your situation right now

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for that in a heartbeat. That's you have all the

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same problems except you have Cooper Flag or whatever, Ace

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Baal or whatever like. That's that's a better place to be.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any predictions before we get out of here?

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Of where do you think are the Sixers gonna? I

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just does JU wanna bead of it all? Just you're right,

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a seven to ten day update should not be having

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us all in a tizzy. But you're right, it's the

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accumulation of everything that's happened. And I just don't because

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you could also say, if Duella be t healthy, you're

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just in the play in imagine being the one or

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two seed in the East and your reward is playing

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a Sixers seem last, dwell and beat available.

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Speaker 2: And I think my prediction ultimately will be that the

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Sixers will hold out hope that that's a possibility and

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recognize that it's really really going to be hard for

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them to improve their lottery odds from here and just

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kind of grit their teeth, go for it and whatever

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that means. Maybe Embiid gets back and he looks better

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than he has at any point this year. It's not

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what I would do, but I think that's probably the

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way things go here.

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Speaker 1: Even the middle ground would just be saying, until you

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know Joel Embiid can't play again this year, you kind

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of just stay in the course. That's to a point

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where it's, oh, we're in the play in but he's

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not available, then just throw the playing games and like,

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just make sure that your lottery odds are as high

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as possible that way or so, I don't I don't know,

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but that's probably the middle ground. But you I came

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into this saying there's just no reason for them to tank,

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and you sold me on the idea of I don't

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think they're gonna even come close to winning the championship

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this year, and so why not just try and juice

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the odds of keeping your pick to twenty one to

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twenty six percent.

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Speaker 2: It's a more way to look at it. I don't

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know if that's right, but but I do think that's

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that's going to be a consideration.

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Speaker 1: At least we're gonna eat some crow on the off

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season grades that we gave them, though when we regrade

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those later, I'll tell you that much.

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Speaker 2: I regret nothing. I stand on it. Those were good moves.

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Speaker 1: Are unless you have anything else, are you ready to

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take us out of here?

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Speaker 2: No? Thanks everybody for listening, for watching. Remember Rate Review,

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subscribe where you're listening to your podcast subscribeing YouTube as well.

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Leave us some comments there, let us know what you

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think the Sixers should do and what they will do,

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and whether are those whether those are the same things

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or different things. As we've kind of equivocated, It's twenty here,

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in twenty five minutes. Thanks everybody, shouts Franklin Quine. Apologies.

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Jared Allen