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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>kf I Am six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Viral viral load, viral load, the viral load lu k

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<v Speaker 2>if I am six forty.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's get to Tiffany Hobbs and the viral load. Here

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<v Speaker 5>we go, good evening everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>In death, there are more than a few options for

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<v Speaker 5>your remains or the remains of your loved ones. Of course,

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<v Speaker 5>you can opt into the burial plot. You can get

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<v Speaker 5>put into a tree pod. Of course, you can be cremated,

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<v Speaker 5>and if you choose cremation, there are quite a few

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<v Speaker 5>creative things that can be done with your ashes. Some

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<v Speaker 5>people like to keep them in a conventional urn, some

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<v Speaker 5>people like to put them in other places. And you

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<v Speaker 5>can even have your ashes or part of your ashes

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<v Speaker 5>put into a locket to wear around your neck or

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<v Speaker 5>keep as a keepsake. Yes, one man found this out

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<v Speaker 5>kind of in a strange way, but it does have

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<v Speaker 5>a really heartwarming twist. So there's a man. His name

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<v Speaker 5>is Thomas Flavin. He's from Tulsa, Oklahoma, and he went

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<v Speaker 5>to one of those pick apart salvage yards to try

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<v Speaker 5>and find a part for his car, and as he

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<v Speaker 5>was looking through parts, he came across a jeep in

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<v Speaker 5>the junk yard. He goes to the jeep, he inspects it,

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<v Speaker 5>he likes what he sees. I'm a jeep owner, so

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<v Speaker 5>shout out to Thomas Flavan for that. And what he

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<v Speaker 5>decided to do is he opened the door. He looked

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<v Speaker 5>at the dash, looked up at the rear view mirror,

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<v Speaker 5>and saw a lockett or a necklace hanging from the

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<v Speaker 5>rear view mirror. He said he originally was going to

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<v Speaker 5>take the necklace and give it to his daughter as

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<v Speaker 5>a gift. Interesting guy, this, Thomas Flavin must have been

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<v Speaker 5>a nice looking lockett. But what he realized upon further

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<v Speaker 5>inspection of the locket is that it had a screw

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<v Speaker 5>top at the top of the heart or whatever the

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<v Speaker 5>shape was, indicating that perhaps something was inside of the

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<v Speaker 5>locket because it didn't open like a conventional lockett would.

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<v Speaker 5>So he opened the locket and was able to glean

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<v Speaker 5>that there were ashes of some sort inside. What he

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<v Speaker 5>then did is what made the story, or what's making

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<v Speaker 5>the story currently go viral.

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<v Speaker 3>He posted on Facebook and he.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcomed people to try and find the original owner of

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<v Speaker 5>the lockett, not the deceased person, but anyone who might

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<v Speaker 5>be a family member of this figure out the exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>So he put an all call out using social media,

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<v Speaker 5>and to this date he's had thousands upon thousands of replies.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, not everyone is going to be legit, but

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people are there on social media wishing

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<v Speaker 5>him well and being really taken back by his altruistic

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<v Speaker 5>and compassionate response. But yeah, he's hoping the rightful owner

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<v Speaker 5>will come forward.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you feel you are.

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<v Speaker 5>The rightful owner that you were in this salvage yard

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<v Speaker 5>at the Gilcrease Expressway in Tosa, Oklahoma, he's going to

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<v Speaker 5>Thomas Flavan is going to require you to verify the make,

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<v Speaker 5>model and location of the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 3>It came from interesting story.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you can follow up on this if someone comes forward.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to.

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<v Speaker 5>And as of right, you have a lot of people

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<v Speaker 5>who are being silly. And you know, when you put

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<v Speaker 5>out an all call on social media, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 5>vet the responses you're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't.

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<v Speaker 5>But this is a very heartwarming effort by Thomas Flaman.

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<v Speaker 3>Our next story a little less heartwarming.

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<v Speaker 5>It has to do with treatment in relationships, kind of

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<v Speaker 5>a barometer that's being set on social media. When women,

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<v Speaker 5>usually women, have this conversation about their spouses, about their

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<v Speaker 5>mates and the treatment that they're receiving in a relationship,

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<v Speaker 5>many people weigh in and say that there are certain

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<v Speaker 5>markers of good treatment. That marker might be that your

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<v Speaker 5>spouse fills up your gas. These are these resourced from

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<v Speaker 5>the internet. These are not my own, so I'll just

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<v Speaker 5>go down the list. That filling up your car without

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<v Speaker 5>gas without you having to ask, is a marker of

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<v Speaker 5>a good spouse.

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<v Speaker 3>That opening the door for you.

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<v Speaker 5>That's good, carrying your bags, good, paying for nail appointments, good,

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<v Speaker 5>bringing you coffee in bed?

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<v Speaker 2>What good?

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<v Speaker 5>Running errands for you where you're tired, Good, taking care

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<v Speaker 5>of you when you're sick, ding ding ding ding ding good.

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<v Speaker 5>The question that's going viral is are these acts what

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<v Speaker 5>you would call the bare minimum in a relationship or

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<v Speaker 5>are they something called princess treatment. The term princess treatment

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<v Speaker 5>is all over social media, especially if you've spent time

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<v Speaker 5>on TikTok. Over the last couple of weeks there's a

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<v Speaker 5>debate over what princess treatment in tails, and there's a

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<v Speaker 5>video that's gone highly viral. We're going to play a

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<v Speaker 5>clip from that now from content creator Courtney Palmer, who says,

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<v Speaker 5>this is the only way to live.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's talk about princess treatment. If you're at a restaurant,

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<v Speaker 6>how you interact with the white staff and the hostess.

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<v Speaker 6>If I am at a restaurant with my husband, I

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<v Speaker 6>do not talk to the hostess. I do not open

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<v Speaker 6>many doors, and I do not order my own food.

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<v Speaker 6>So someone had sent me a message a couple of

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<v Speaker 6>weeks ago asking about like, let's say your husband drops

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<v Speaker 6>you off and he goes to mark the car, what

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<v Speaker 6>do you do or if it's raining or something like that,

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<v Speaker 6>and he wants you to put your name down. And

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<v Speaker 6>I had a very similar situation up into me with

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<v Speaker 6>my husband a couple of weeks ago. I'll put her

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<v Speaker 6>question on the screen so you can see exactly what

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<v Speaker 6>she's saying. But we pulled up, me and my husband

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<v Speaker 6>pulled up to a restaurant and he wanted to run

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<v Speaker 6>in and see we didn't have a reservation. He wanted

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<v Speaker 6>to run in, Well, we didn't have a reservation, so

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<v Speaker 6>possible for us to get in. He pulled the car

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<v Speaker 6>the car. He got out of the car, told the

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<v Speaker 6>sat in the car. Well. He ran in and asked them.

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<v Speaker 6>They said, yeah, we have says for you. And my

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<v Speaker 6>husband said, okay, I'm going to go get my wife

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<v Speaker 6>and then I'm going to park the car. So he

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<v Speaker 2>I did not make.

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<v Speaker 6>Eye contact with the hostess. I did not talk to her.

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<v Speaker 6>I waited until my husband came back. He comes back

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<v Speaker 2>And her jeez. I couldn't deal with that.

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<v Speaker 3>And she sound like a peach. She's a catch, this

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<v Speaker 3>Courtney palm.

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<v Speaker 4>If she's happy with her husband and her husband is

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<v Speaker 4>happy with her, God bless everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Golly golly.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is the debate that is raging all over

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<v Speaker 5>social media, led by Courtney Palmer, whose voice we just heard,

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<v Speaker 5>and she is saying, she is insisting that that sort

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<v Speaker 5>of treatment, that sort of interaction indicates that you are

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<v Speaker 5>being treated like a princess in your relationship and you

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<v Speaker 5>should accept nothing less, ladies.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what she's saying.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not subscribing to Courtney Palmer, but this is all

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<v Speaker 5>the rage on social media.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm looking at a picture of her. It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>can I be a princess? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>How can I say this without being disrespectful while on

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<v Speaker 4>my anniversary? I believe it is up for the couples

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<v Speaker 4>to decide where their comfort zone as far as level of.

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<v Speaker 2>Treatment. I'll give you a perfect example.

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<v Speaker 4>My mother, who's listening right now, to the day my

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<v Speaker 4>father died, has never pumped gas. My father always did

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<v Speaker 4>that for her, and subsequent to that, I've done it

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<v Speaker 4>for my mother, But that was an understanding that they

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<v Speaker 4>had as a couple. My wife doesn't get down like that.

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<v Speaker 4>She doesn't want that type of unnecessary treatment, or at

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<v Speaker 4>least in her eyes, unnecessary treatment.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's coupled by couple.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you're going to tell me, Courtney, what is

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<v Speaker 4>the correct treatment of a woman in a relationship?

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<v Speaker 3>Foh many people.

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<v Speaker 5>Follow this, Courtney Palmer they're stupid too, and they are

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<v Speaker 5>subscribing to everything she's saying. So there are debates I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure that are happening amongst households.

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<v Speaker 2>She probably has an only fan page probably the world.

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<v Speaker 7>What got me is is okay, just take the princess

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<v Speaker 7>part out of it, the fact that she had to

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<v Speaker 7>establish the fact that she didn't make eye contact with

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<v Speaker 7>the hostess.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think you are?

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<v Speaker 3>Who do you think you are? Rude?

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<v Speaker 2>Like Mike Pence's wife.

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<v Speaker 5>When we come back, we're gonna have a fun little

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<v Speaker 5>story appropriate about a new TikTok challenge that is dangerous

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<v Speaker 5>for teenagers. It's it's they love it they're doing. I'll

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<v Speaker 5>share it what it is with you. And also, if

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<v Speaker 5>you're a fan of ACME and Warner Brothers, you'll really

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<v Speaker 5>love this last viral story.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, finally, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's tuning the Myral Move with Tiffany Live on

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<v Speaker 3>Campies Lita w mo O Kelly.

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<v Speaker 6>She'll talk about the.

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<v Speaker 3>Toughness on social media from Alone with Tiffany Hubbs.

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<v Speaker 4>Forty years Later with mo Kelly, We're still live everywhere

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<v Speaker 4>on the iHeartRadio app and social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Now for Part two of the Viral Lobe with Tiffany Hops.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember playing ding Dong ditch in your neighborhood?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I read? Did you do that more times than

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<v Speaker 2>I care to remember this?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever get caught?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, of course this was before they had ring

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<v Speaker 4>devices and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, now you have to worry about someone shooting

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<v Speaker 2>you too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and ding Dong ditch has evolved. There's a new

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<v Speaker 5>TikTok challenge. He Instead of kids just ringing your door

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<v Speaker 5>bell or knocking on your door and running away before

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<v Speaker 5>you can open it, they're kicking on your door in

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<v Speaker 5>hopes of kicking it in. Yes, new TikTok challenge is

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<v Speaker 5>sweeping the nation with teenagers trying to kick your door in.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't someone get shot for that?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure many people have tried to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Police are definitely saying that this new trend, of course,

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<v Speaker 5>is illegal and extremely dangerous. They're warning kids all around

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<v Speaker 5>the country. This is not central to any one part

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<v Speaker 5>of the United States. It's happening everywhere because it's viral,

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<v Speaker 5>which means it is global. Honestly that this trend could

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<v Speaker 5>have deadly consequences. Of course, is not the first dangerous

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<v Speaker 5>trend that police in any area have had to deal with.

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<v Speaker 4>You're going to get shot just because obviously if you

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<v Speaker 4>point blank. Yeah, you could be ups man. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>A resurfaced photo that went viral in twenty sixteen of

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<v Speaker 3>The side I saw.

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<v Speaker 5>This is not just there's not just the tunnel by itself. No,

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<v Speaker 5>there's also the road Runner, the Roadrunner, our famous WB

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<v Speaker 5>Roadrunner painted alongside of this tunnel. The tunnel has been

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<v Speaker 5>to look effectively like a real, true sized tunnel that

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<v Speaker 5>the road Runner cartoons. The photos of this painting for

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<v Speaker 5>surfaced in twenty and sixteen after a driver reportedly crashed

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<v Speaker 5>into the wall. At the time, the damage was said

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<v Speaker 5>to be minor, and police treated what happened what the

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<v Speaker 5>painting was as an act of vandalism. Locals labeled the

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<v Speaker 5>prank dangerous and genius because there were people who were

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<v Speaker 5>definitely enjoying the prank and people considered it to be

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<v Speaker 5>hyper realistic. The photos went viral. That was twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 5>That's another way you get your ass whooped too. Now

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<v Speaker 5>nine years later, these photos and the virility of the

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<v Speaker 5>story are anew. They are back and people are talking

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<v Speaker 5>how realistic it looked, and oh man, that's really dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone's gonna get hurt.

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<v Speaker 5>But the question that is also going viral is is

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<v Speaker 5>the painting real? Some say this entire story is a hoax.

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<v Speaker 5>So the claim again went viral in March of twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 5>It appeared all over the Internet, especially on the website Reddit,

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<v Speaker 5>December of that year. The December article pinned the original

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<v Speaker 5>painting to Brazil, while other outlets attributed to Atlanta and

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<v Speaker 5>even the UK, so people didn't even know where this originated.

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<v Speaker 5>And what happened is word of mouth spread the story.

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<v Speaker 5>Posting spread the story, but people who were interviewed not verified.

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<v Speaker 5>The outlets didn't go about verifying the story ries and

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<v Speaker 5>the backstories. They ran with the sensationalism of the photo

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<v Speaker 5>of this possible painting, and now that the lore is

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<v Speaker 5>again making the internet rounds. It's not yet been fully

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<v Speaker 5>proven to be false, so watch out for any wild

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<v Speaker 2>See.

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<v Speaker 4>The sad part about this is we do live in

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<v Speaker 4>an age where you don't know if half the stuff

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<v Speaker 4>you're looking at is real, if it's a real photo,

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<v Speaker 4>if it's a real story, if it's a real person

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<v Speaker 4>AI all of those things, and we will forever be skeptical,

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes rightfully so, but unnecessarily so, because we doubt

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<v Speaker 4>everything everything where we can't trust for different reasons, news outlets,

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<v Speaker 4>we can't trust pictures that we see. We can't trust

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<v Speaker 4>these web portals that are posting these stories. What is

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<v Speaker 4>real anymore? No one really knows.

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<v Speaker 5>What is real is probably the question, and stories like

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<v Speaker 5>this just prove how quickly something can spread and that

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<v Speaker 5>they can resurface almost a decade later with a brand

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<v Speaker 5>new audience that will make the story fresh and new again,

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<v Speaker 5>which is why we're talking about it on the viral load.

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<v Speaker 5>You can catch me Saturdays five to seven pm Saturdays

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<v Speaker 5>with Tiffany right here on k I AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll talk about more of this and other things as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Tiffy, I don't want you to go away because this

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<v Speaker 4>next story I want your input in because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if I purchase anything from Etsy ever, or anyone

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<v Speaker 4>who had it Etsy store and purchased something from them.

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<v Speaker 4>So Epsy was kind of janky adjacent in my world

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<v Speaker 4>is like you get your own website, get your own

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<v Speaker 4>store type thing. Instead you settle for Etsy flea market ish. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a good way to describe it. But when I

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<v Speaker 4>see that witches, spells and soulmates digital witchcraft are a

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<v Speaker 4>thing on Etsy, I gotta say, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Gosh, you can sell anything.

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<v Speaker 4>You're confirming everything that I feared about Etsy. I want

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<v Speaker 4>to get your thoughts about that. It's Later with mo

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<v Speaker 4>Kelly caf I AM six forty. We are live everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 4>Kf I am six forty years Later with mo Kelly,

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<v Speaker 4>We're live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've never been a fan of Etsy, No, no shade,

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<v Speaker 4>per se. It's just I've never felt the need to

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<v Speaker 4>buy anything off of anybody's Etsy website. It's kind of like,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're gonna be serious or be considered to be

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<v Speaker 4>taken seriously, you need to have a real website. You

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<v Speaker 4>need to have a real online marketplace location. Etsy just

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<v Speaker 4>just reaped of dime store to me. So when I

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<v Speaker 4>see that there is a whole cottage industry of people

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<v Speaker 4>buying weird stuff off of Vansy, It's like, yeah, that tracks.

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<v Speaker 4>According to the Wall Street Journal, so called Etsy witches

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<v Speaker 4>are selling everything from love spells to spirit cleansings, to

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<v Speaker 4>soulmates sketches and good luck rituals, and people are buying it.

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<v Speaker 4>What it's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about spells.

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<v Speaker 4>Soulmates, good luck rituals. One popular influencer reportedly hired an

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<v Speaker 4>Etsy witch to ensure good weather on her wedding day,

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<v Speaker 4>and it turned out that ended up with clear skies.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if one had anything to do with

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<v Speaker 4>the other. Another Los Angeles Los Angeles creative director bought

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<v Speaker 4>a spell to help the New York Knicks supposedly win

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<v Speaker 4>Game five of the NBA Eastern Conference Finals in May.

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<v Speaker 4>The Knicks did win that game, but when he paid

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<v Speaker 4>for another spell ahead of Game six, they lost. I

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<v Speaker 4>need to get on etc. And just start selling bs

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<v Speaker 4>so it works. No, no, no, no, there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Correlation is not causation.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you know, let's say I sold you a spell

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<v Speaker 4>where you're going to come into money tomorrow, and let's

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<v Speaker 4>say you bought a lottery ticket and you won one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred dollars. I would say that's correlation. But I can,

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<v Speaker 4>I can. I can guarantee you that I had nothing

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<v Speaker 4>to do with that. I did not cause that. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't have have powers like that, And I promise you

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<v Speaker 4>if I could sell spells, I would be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Something else other than radio, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there's an element of confirmation bias with this

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<v Speaker 5>as well, because if you're looking for the result, you're

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<v Speaker 5>looking for the you know, the thing that you're paying for,

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<v Speaker 5>and any semblance of that happens after you've paid, you're

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<v Speaker 5>going to attribute it if you pay this money, this

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<v Speaker 4>I can understand people will pay for psychics, and most

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<v Speaker 4>people understand it's a form of entertainment.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've I've had a reading.

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<v Speaker 4>But if I thought that someone who was making ten

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<v Speaker 4>ninety nine an hour could tell me my future, they

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't be making ten ninety nine an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's just me looking at it logically.

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<v Speaker 4>But I understand you can have fun with some of

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff, but I don't get the sense this is

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<v Speaker 4>about fun. This is people spending their heart on money

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<v Speaker 4>because they expected actual results to come out of this exploitation.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, because it kind of answers that question. Every time

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<v Speaker 7>I drive past those psychia psychic shops and it looks

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<v Speaker 7>like they're out of somebody's house, I'm like, how much

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<v Speaker 7>money could they actually be making? But then I hear

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<v Speaker 7>stuff like this, and I'm like, yeah, they're probably doing okay.

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<v Speaker 7>They're probably doing okay. But if someone actually could do

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<v Speaker 7>the things that they're alleging to do, they wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 7>in their house, they wouldn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>They would be making all sorts of money.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd be selling spells left and right. I'll be putting

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<v Speaker 4>curses and hexes on all the people i'd dislock, just

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<v Speaker 4>like I would be making sure that Mark had a

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<v Speaker 4>bad day every day. I have a little I'll have

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<v Speaker 4>a voodoo doll, and I'd be sticking in with pins

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<v Speaker 4>stop just because stop that, Just to mess with Mark.

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<v Speaker 4>It'd be funny to see him like jumping in the head.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like Marko Company is like, my back is hurting

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<v Speaker 4>for some reason. I don't know, it's just something happened

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<v Speaker 4>last night. And I'll just have a voodoo doll that

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<v Speaker 4>I I'd hold up with a pin in its back.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep trying, you gotta try harder. I know. Look, people

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<v Speaker 2>actually pay for this stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I think no self respecting authentic practitioner of the dark

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<v Speaker 5>arts or light arts or whatever you want to call

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<v Speaker 5>them would put their things on Etsy unless they were

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<v Speaker 5>trying to just make a quick book.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I guess it.

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<v Speaker 3>Real stuff is on there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and this is a KTLA story. They do talk

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<v Speaker 4>about psychics and how they will perform readings. Sometimes they

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<v Speaker 4>get it right, sometimes they get it wrong. I remember

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<v Speaker 4>my mother and my sister went to see a psyche,

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<v Speaker 4>but they went to it for an entertainment.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't expecting much out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And there was some things that said were like, wow,

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<v Speaker 4>that was pretty spot on, very specific. It made you

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<v Speaker 4>think for a second that wow, they might have known

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<v Speaker 4>some things. But it's not like you go in banking

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<v Speaker 4>on that. It's it's for entertainment purposes. I just I

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<v Speaker 4>don't get it. And the last thing I would do

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<v Speaker 4>is go to Etsy for a soulmate drawing for twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four dollars. Yeah, I wouldn't even tell people that. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like you spent twenty four dollars to do what I do?

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<v Speaker 4>What you did, what I did?

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<v Speaker 6>What?

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't get it. Now, have you ever had

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<v Speaker 2>a reading before?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't want to have one. That kind of

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<v Speaker 5>gives me the creeps. And I'm a believer in a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of stuff. Oh you know, I'm a George Nori listener, right,

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<v Speaker 5>you and me, both, you and I both. But I

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<v Speaker 5>am not interested in getting a reading for fear that

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<v Speaker 5>they may say something that is too specific. I just

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<v Speaker 4>I just well, there's a lot of bad news in life,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're just gonna give me the good news, and

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<v Speaker 4>I know they can't be legit.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this to be absolutely serious.

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<v Speaker 4>I do believe that there is far more in this

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<v Speaker 4>world which is beyond our present level of understanding. Some

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<v Speaker 4>people may call that supernatural, some people may call that magic,

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<v Speaker 4>some people may call that aliens whatever. I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 4>in our limited understanding of this world, we've only had

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<v Speaker 4>technology honestly, for a good hundred years or so. Our

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<v Speaker 4>period of enlightenment is a very very small window. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't too long ago that we couldn't even figure

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<v Speaker 4>out antibiotics.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we don't know everything as a species.

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<v Speaker 4>I say that to say there's plenty we don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't rule out everything, but the things I

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<v Speaker 4>will rule out, it'll be exit.

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<v Speaker 2>And as he's not in that world.

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<v Speaker 7>And to Tiffany's point, you know, if they say something negative,

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<v Speaker 7>even if it's not sure, you don't see it coming

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<v Speaker 7>around the corner. You're kind of like, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 7>like bad juju. You're kind of putting that negative thought

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<v Speaker 7>out there. Yes, and it's kind of like the secret.

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<v Speaker 7>So you put out positive, you're gonna get something back.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know that kind of it'll mess with your mind.

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<v Speaker 7>So I can see why she wouldn't or why you

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<v Speaker 7>wouldn't want to do it.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>The only time I got a reading from me, and

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<v Speaker 4>I do remember, it was, and to be fair, in

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<v Speaker 4>a general sense, it was correct. It was at a

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<v Speaker 4>Warner Brothers Records holiday party and they had someone doing

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<v Speaker 4>psychic creatings, and I sat down and gave her my hand,

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<v Speaker 4>did the hand and talked about my life and this

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<v Speaker 4>is the year two thousand and she looked me right

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<v Speaker 4>in the eye and said, I don't know exactly what

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<v Speaker 4>it is, but you're getting ready to make a major

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<v Speaker 4>career change.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to change your life.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to be major, just like you're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to have to wonder whether it's it. It's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be that. And it was maybe a year and a

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<v Speaker 4>half later I got into radio.

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<v Speaker 5>And see some would say a year and a half

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<v Speaker 5>later is not it's a small enough window to attribute

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<v Speaker 5>it to the psychic, but maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>But my point is it fundamentally changed the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>my life, life, everything, everything, because I was working in

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<v Speaker 4>music industry. Next thing you know, I'm on the path

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<v Speaker 4>for what I'm doing now. Having no idea back in

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<v Speaker 4>the year two thousand, I never thought of being an

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<v Speaker 4>on air personality in a talk radio sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe in music radio.

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<v Speaker 4>Possibly that was more of a shorter leap than talk radio.

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<v Speaker 4>I listened to talk radio. I didn't think I would

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<v Speaker 4>be in talk radio.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean, the psychic at that point could have

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<v Speaker 5>said you're going to make a major leap in your career,

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<v Speaker 5>and it could have turned out obviously in a different way,

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<v Speaker 5>and that leap is subjective.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I quit my job, that job like maybe six

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<v Speaker 4>months later. So is it a psychic I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I should go to Etsy and ask no.

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<v Speaker 4>I should go to George Nori and ask him when

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<v Speaker 4>we come back, have you had any life changing fortune cookies?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I can say that, say, okay, because the fortune cookies

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<v Speaker 4>are always super super vague.

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<v Speaker 2>And always positive. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how I know they're full of ish because my

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<v Speaker 4>life is not super super positive. Bad stuff happens. It's like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not even a fortune cookie anymore. If I go

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<v Speaker 4>to Panda Express, Sorry, but you're the ones like yet

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<v Speaker 4>when I go to Panda Express, it's not even a fortune.

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<v Speaker 4>It says stuff like when you walk into a room,

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<v Speaker 4>you light up the room, or.

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<v Speaker 2>Something like that. It's not a fortune.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's not, or or like an instruction it will

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<v Speaker 4>be like, you know, not this, not this direct, but

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<v Speaker 4>like something like you know, straightened up in life or

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<v Speaker 4>something like yeah, it's like what am I supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>do with that?

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<v Speaker 2>What does does that mean?

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<v Speaker 6>That?

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<v Speaker 4>Like a you know, I'm gonna get hit by a bus.

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<v Speaker 4>If I don't straighten up, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand

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