Speaker 1: Greetings everybody. This is Chris Dunham filling in for Todd
Speaker 1: huff on the home of Conservative Not Bidder. It's always
Speaker 1: a joy to be asked by Todd to fill in
Speaker 1: when he's off doing other things, visiting family, getting some
Speaker 1: well deserved rest. For those of you who have heard
Speaker 1: me before, I am your quote unquote legal immigrant who
Speaker 1: Todd asked from time to time to come and guest host.
Speaker 1: I'm an apologist by training and an evangelist by burden,
Speaker 1: a patriot of course, because of the urgency. For those
Speaker 1: of you who know me, you know my story well.
Speaker 1: For those of you joining us in the additional markets
Speaker 1: that were picked up in the additional hour that we
Speaker 1: are going to do today and then a couple of
Speaker 1: days later. I came from India in nineteen eighty six
Speaker 1: with nine dollars to my name, and right now I'm
Speaker 1: actually recording this in a hotel room in Fredericksburg, Texas,
Speaker 1: where I have been asked to be part of a
Speaker 1: journey called Patriot Academy that I've been a part of
Speaker 1: on the ancillary side for a good on two decades,
Speaker 1: and now with the brand new campus being built here
Speaker 1: in Fredericksburg, to restore liberty and give us some of
Speaker 1: those God given rights that are inalienable. I am excited
Speaker 1: to bring my knowledge both of the world of apologetics
Speaker 1: and of evangelism to these humble quarters and maybe hang
Speaker 1: our shingles here in the retirement days of our life
Speaker 1: in good old Texas. But back to the business at hand.
Speaker 1: The show is called Conservative not Bitter. Around the corner.
Speaker 1: In November of this year, we will have again the
Speaker 1: significant election that every four years everybody says is the
Speaker 1: most important election of our lifetime. Where I stand on
Speaker 1: a lot of these issues is public knowledge. You can
Speaker 1: check me out on YouTube. I don't promote anything as
Speaker 1: a general rule, because when people ask me to guest
Speaker 1: host for them, I think it's an incredible honor to
Speaker 1: just complement and supplement that which they have spent a
Speaker 1: lifetime building and branding. So for the majority of what
Speaker 1: we do, we try to just reference a couple of
Speaker 1: ways in which you can reach us. And some of
Speaker 1: you have in years past come back and said, you
Speaker 1: like the mellow sweetness of the tone or whichever way
Speaker 1: you want to put it, but that it does complement
Speaker 1: Todds on a demeanor of trying to advocate and also
Speaker 1: accelerate the notion of let us be conservative. We don't
Speaker 1: need to be bitter. When I look at the Declaration
Speaker 1: of Independence and any of those documents that frame this republic,
Speaker 1: I look at the rights that are inalienable, that are
Speaker 1: given to us by a creator God, that amongst these
Speaker 1: are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And somewhere
Speaker 1: along the way in the journey we convoluted the last
Speaker 1: part happiness is the only one that seems to have
Speaker 1: that qualifier of pursuit. But the life ordained rights that
Speaker 1: we have been given by Creator, our life and liberty.
Speaker 1: Some years ago, I remember sharing a story with a
Speaker 1: group of people and they kind of liked it. But
Speaker 1: the historian David Hackett Fisher one time was writing a chronicle.
Speaker 1: He himself a historian, was chronicling other historians who had
Speaker 1: researched the Civil War and the Revolutionary War and some
Speaker 1: such so a gentleman by the name of Melon Chamberlain
Speaker 1: was interviewing a gentleman by the name of Captain Levi Preston,
Speaker 1: who at that time was well into his nineties. But
Speaker 1: Levi Preston was there on that faded shothard around the world,
Speaker 1: so to speak. The initial shots had conquered and Lexington,
Speaker 1: which changed the course and the trajectory of the imperialism
Speaker 1: and the colonization of Britain, and eventually later on in
Speaker 1: seventeen seventy six to the signing of that Gallon Declaration,
Speaker 1: and then the war lasted a good number of years
Speaker 1: after that, seventeen seventy six being one which took a
Speaker 1: lot of courage and fortitude to finish. And hope you'll
Speaker 1: track with us on the second day I come back,
Speaker 1: which I think is scheduled to be Monday, And if
Speaker 1: that's the case, I will actually walk you through some
Speaker 1: parts of seventeen seventy six as an immigrant would read it,
Speaker 1: and give you a historical perspective there in. But going
Speaker 1: back to Melon Chamberlain's interview of Levi Preston, the questions
Speaker 1: asked of the young lad who had participated in the
Speaker 1: Revolutionary War were quite simple. Did you react or did
Speaker 1: you join the forces? Because of the Stamp Act? He says,
Speaker 1: I don't think a stamp act ever got off the ground.
Speaker 1: In fact, I don't recall seeing a single piece of
Speaker 1: paper that had been taxed or that required a tax
Speaker 1: on the stamp there in. As far as the tea party,
Speaker 1: the next question was concerned, He says, I don't think
Speaker 1: I ever saw a little bag of tea. I think
Speaker 1: our boys already dumped it in the harbor by the
Speaker 1: time we got there. He says, then, what, pray tell,
Speaker 1: was your desire to join the revolution? Was it because
Speaker 1: you had read the writings of Locke in Sydney and Harrington?
Speaker 1: He says no. He says, pray tell, what is your answer?
Speaker 1: Why did you fight? You were not the right person,
Speaker 1: you were not equipped to do it, you were not
Speaker 1: trained as a regimental soldier. Why did you do it?
Speaker 1: And the answer that Levi Preston, Captain Levi Preston, now
Speaker 1: well into his ninth general, ninth decade of existence, said
Speaker 1: was quite humbling and simple. Now, I may be a
Speaker 1: little eager in how I tried to narrate history to you,
Speaker 1: so play along. Some of you may be googling. But
Speaker 1: if you're doing that, please stop and do that so
Speaker 1: that you're safe. But the reality is this, Here's what
Speaker 1: Levi Preston said. He says, we had always been free
Speaker 1: and intended to be free always, but the Red Coats
Speaker 1: intended it not so. And I'm thinking to myself, here
Speaker 1: we are on the cusp of another election. We hear
Speaker 1: the rally cries going around the tube. We hear people
Speaker 1: chattering all the time in sound bites, their vitriol, their hatred,
Speaker 1: their anger, and none of them go back to the
Speaker 1: basics of why do we need to preserve a republic?
Speaker 1: Why do we have to keep calling it a democracy
Speaker 1: when it is a republic? And I think if you
Speaker 1: repeat a lie often enough, it'll become true. That's what
Speaker 1: we have seen, has been proven by the side that
Speaker 1: disagrees with us. So having said that, I want to
Speaker 1: take you through this concept of elections. And the first
Speaker 1: thing is consequences. When I look back through the annals
Speaker 1: of American history and when I look at what all
Speaker 1: the people did. Even when George Washington took command and
Speaker 1: Congress said we want you to be the commander of
Speaker 1: the Continental Army. In his letter to Martha and his
Speaker 1: letter to his friends, his brother, and to Congress itself,
Speaker 1: he said, I consider myself the least equipped person to
Speaker 1: undertake this charge. But the duty and honor of the
Speaker 1: moment are what will convince me that I have to
Speaker 1: do the best I can. Throughout the war, he lamented
Speaker 1: that probably he was not the right guy, and many
Speaker 1: times his second in command doubted him, especially after the
Speaker 1: losses that were undertaken, when New York was run over,
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Heights was run over, the Jamaica Pass was run over,
Speaker 1: White Plains was run over, and these people were retreating
Speaker 1: further and further. And as they decided to make that
Speaker 1: stand in Philadelphia, Congress itself had already retreated and moved
Speaker 1: their headquarters to Baltimore. So we have been through these
Speaker 1: times before where the fight seems that it's not worth
Speaker 1: fighting because the other side has a louder voice, a
Speaker 1: more well trained vocal outburst, and they are selling emotion
Speaker 1: and we are selling logic. And as a result of that,
Speaker 1: many of us don't want to actually participate in this
Speaker 1: process because not only are we fed up, we are tired.
Speaker 1: In the words of that great beatle George Harrison, we
Speaker 1: keep on voting. They still get in. When I, as
Speaker 1: an immigrant, look at conservative principles and start echoing the
Speaker 1: inner Reagan within me, I begin to ask myself a
Speaker 1: very simple question, how can people wake up in the morning,
Speaker 1: look in the mirror and actually go down the checklist
Speaker 1: of saying a border that is not secure is okay,
Speaker 1: migrants who come in here unchecked, unfettered, with immediate access
Speaker 1: to all the benefits is okay. But the homelessness on
Speaker 1: the streets because we do not provide enough of a
Speaker 1: funding for our veterans who go and serve for us
Speaker 1: as they lie on the streets. The only time we
Speaker 1: clean them up is if a convention is coming to
Speaker 1: town and we don't want their encampments to be an
Speaker 1: isore to our own policy. My friends, it's a very
Speaker 1: interesting time we find living in America these years. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you look at what this republic is all about,
Speaker 1: and how beautiful and gracious it has meant to immigrants
Speaker 1: like me, As an immigrant, I always wonder when I
Speaker 1: landed in New York City there were two lines immigrant others.
Speaker 1: There was no great debate as to which line you
Speaker 1: would belong in and how you would be received. The
Speaker 1: word used was when you arrive in New York, you
Speaker 1: will be processed. This is what was told to me
Speaker 1: in the embassy in India. You will have to declare,
Speaker 1: you will have to show the police clearance that you
Speaker 1: don't carry a record from the country that you're exiting,
Speaker 1: which means I had to go and stand in line
Speaker 1: and fill paperwork in India to get a police clearance.
Speaker 1: And I want you to imagine how arduous and long
Speaker 1: that process would have been in nineteen eighty six to
Speaker 1: get the clearance because nothing was digitized and nothing was
Speaker 1: computerized back then, so word of mouth people had to
Speaker 1: scour files and maybe they didn't do a good job
Speaker 1: in scowering all of them, but still you had to
Speaker 1: wait about six months before you got that no objection certificate.
Speaker 1: The same thing for your medical clearance. There are people
Speaker 1: on the streets and India dying. So if you're just
Speaker 1: going to go to a doctor and say I want
Speaker 1: a regular wellness checkup and I need you to certify
Speaker 1: that I'm good and capable of traveling to another country
Speaker 1: with no communicable diseases, you are basically not given priority access.
Speaker 1: So the medical clearance takes time. But I love the
Speaker 1: word that was used in those days, processed. And now
Speaker 1: I want to bring us to fast forward to where
Speaker 1: we are now. Now the debate is people do not
Speaker 1: need an ID to vote. That is about as dumb
Speaker 1: as a bag of rocks. And we're not calling anybody
Speaker 1: a bag of rocks, but we're saying the idea is
Speaker 1: dumb as a bag of rocks, or if you're from
Speaker 1: the South, the bag of hammers, or whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call. Well, you know, in the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 1: it's really not a big deal. Well, Aristotle said, nothing
Speaker 1: is what stones dream about at night. There are consequences
Speaker 1: when you want to talk elections. The first consequences is
Speaker 1: our side gone out and registered? Is our side actually
Speaker 1: making sure that everybody who has a legal right to
Speaker 1: vote is going to cast that vote by the same token.
Speaker 1: Are they checks and balances in place that people who
Speaker 1: don't have a right to vote can now vote? Folks,
Speaker 1: I'm an immigrant. I came to this country and went
Speaker 1: through the process. I waited for each document that came
Speaker 1: at every specific period. After waiting legally, for the gap
Speaker 1: that passes before I had the right to do the
Speaker 1: next thing X number of time. Months have to pass
Speaker 1: before you get your work permit. A little more time
Speaker 1: has to pass before you get your green card. After that,
Speaker 1: a little more time has to pass before you get
Speaker 1: your citizenship. Then you apply for your passport. Then all
Speaker 1: of these things take time. But when I look back
Speaker 1: in hindsight and what I'm called on to do today,
Speaker 1: I am the immigrant who landed in the United States
Speaker 1: with nine dollars to my name in nineteen eighty six,
Speaker 1: and very soon have been asked to come as a
Speaker 1: dean of an institute in Fredericksburg, Texas, where I will
Speaker 1: teach young young kids, young adults conservative principles that are
Speaker 1: based on biblical truths. Now, I know three things for sure.
Speaker 1: One there is a God to it ain't me. And
Speaker 1: three it's not whoever is listening to this either, but
Speaker 1: as a result of that in infallible, inerrant word of God.
Speaker 1: So first, whenever you're looking at elections, look at the
Speaker 1: consequences that come as a result of a character lapsed.
Speaker 1: Consequences that come as a result of conversations that are
Speaker 1: not had, Consequences that begin to birth and share raise
Speaker 1: their ugly head because of choices we have made, consequences
Speaker 1: that will happen because we have not been concerned about
Speaker 1: all of the illegitimacy of the stealing of a republic
Speaker 1: that takes case in front of our eyes. Now, when
Speaker 1: you look at the Supreme Court's laws being passed. And
Speaker 1: if you want more information on this, I'd encourage you
Speaker 1: to go and look at the work of Alliance defending
Speaker 1: freedom and how so much of what we have believed
Speaker 1: was legal was actually just us being hoodwinked when none
Speaker 1: of it actually was legal. When these laws are now
Speaker 1: being repealed, along with them, into the dust bin of
Speaker 1: society will go all of the stuff that we were
Speaker 1: asked to react to for the last forty or fifty years,
Speaker 1: the erection of monuments on public grounds, all of these
Speaker 1: things were passed. Is somehow you know there's a separation
Speaker 1: of church and state. My friend's separation of church and state,
Speaker 1: to the best of my knowledge, is not in any document.
Speaker 1: It was in an innocuous letter written by Thomas Jefferson
Speaker 1: to the Danbury Baptist and at that time I think
Speaker 1: he was an emissary in France when the letter was
Speaker 1: written to him, and his reply was there will always
Speaker 1: be a wall of separation between church and state. I
Speaker 1: don't think it was a sanction that it would be
Speaker 1: open season against the church, and you could get very
Speaker 1: easily a license to build a mosque or a permit
Speaker 1: to erect a temple, but somehow, in order to be
Speaker 1: a church, you had to be cautioned in some way.
Speaker 1: One of the great travesties during COVID was that you
Speaker 1: could worship in replace except a place of worship that
Speaker 1: we call the church. And the reason was city Hall
Speaker 1: doesn't want to take on these large percentage of the
Speaker 1: people they do not understand, and the fear factor of
Speaker 1: who you might offend has actually made it easy to
Speaker 1: offend those people that you are. Let me repeat that,
Speaker 1: the fear of offending someone who you might offend as a
Speaker 1: feeling ends up allowing you to offend what you are
Speaker 1: and what you represent. Everything outside of what you are
Speaker 1: and how you were raised and what you represent becomes
Speaker 1: the alien cultures around us become the migrant cultures moving
Speaker 1: into our neighborhoods. Now you're talking to a brown skin
Speaker 1: kid who was mentored by a man named zig Ziggler
Speaker 1: who called him Twilight, affectionately saying this is my boy.
Speaker 1: He's not black, he's not white, He's my Twilight. As
Speaker 1: a result, I wrote an ode to mister Zigler called Twilight,
Speaker 1: where I thanked him for correcting my lens. You know
Speaker 1: everything you look at doesn't have to be woe. It
Speaker 1: can be r It doesn't have to be a rose
Speaker 1: colored lens. It can be a rose colored lens. And
Speaker 1: sometimes you can look at it through the tint of optimism.
Speaker 1: But that requires a conversation to be had, that requires
Speaker 1: you crossing the street, going to the people who are
Speaker 1: not like you, who come from other places. You may
Speaker 1: not have drawn the straw of the ends of the
Speaker 1: earth to fulfill the great commission, my dear friends, but
Speaker 1: you may have drawn the straw that Judaea and Samaria
Speaker 1: has now been brought to you. So I like the
Speaker 1: fact that the Republican Party, the Conservative movement, is calling
Speaker 1: itself a big tent. But by the same token, there
Speaker 1: have to be some lines as to what you would
Speaker 1: consider fair course in that tent. Excuse me, because if
Speaker 1: you look at America as a general rule, you will
Speaker 1: see the same thing as happened. Let me paint for
Speaker 1: you four pillar posts of the choices that were made
Speaker 1: for us in our absence, But in our presence? What
Speaker 1: does that mean? It was made in our presence because
Speaker 1: it was visually offered to us as a choice. It
Speaker 1: was made in our absence because you and I by
Speaker 1: then had already created the donut effect in the central
Speaker 1: part of her and retreated to the suburbs, where we
Speaker 1: decided we were going to raise our children and raise
Speaker 1: our fences. What were the choices given to us? Hey,
Speaker 1: other lifestyles are here to stay. Why don't you agree
Speaker 1: that a man can love a man, or a woman
Speaker 1: can love a woman, or whatever the choice was, It
Speaker 1: was goffered in a very benign way. It had no
Speaker 1: malignancy to it, It had no urgency to it, It
Speaker 1: had no It just said, you know, we are just
Speaker 1: people just like you, and we want you to allow
Speaker 1: us to love. As long as it was in the
Speaker 1: privacy of their own choices and their own behaviors, You
Speaker 1: and I didn't feel threatened. Plus, we had already moved
Speaker 1: to suburbia. We decided to homeschool our kids and raise
Speaker 1: our fences. So what happens is the first step in
Speaker 1: any movement. If you go back to studying or Well,
Speaker 1: or you study Huxley believing we're either totalitarian or we're
Speaker 1: too lazy, whichever mood you want to pick up, the
Speaker 1: choices are the same. First, they say, acknowledge that other
Speaker 1: things are here to stay. You and I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: no harm, no foul, doesn't bother me. More power to
Speaker 1: you go at it. Very soon A time passes and
Speaker 1: they say, now that you've acknowledged it's here, why don't
Speaker 1: you accept that it's not only here to stay, it's
Speaker 1: here to be recognized. You had a little pebble in
Speaker 1: your shoe. You were a little uncomfortable in your gate
Speaker 1: when they started pushing the envelopes and the boundaries of
Speaker 1: your own character and your own conviction, and very quickly
Speaker 1: you said to yourself, Okay, you know, maybe I need
Speaker 1: to pause and remove this pebble. Well, you created smaller
Speaker 1: cliques that were a little more like you, and you
Speaker 1: kind of receded. You changed churches and joined the church
Speaker 1: that was more biblically based and not the church that
Speaker 1: said that we're going to be open folks when we
Speaker 1: come back. After we finish this segment, we got a
Speaker 1: little more time. But I mean the next segment, I'm
Speaker 1: going to address the church's choices as well. And again
Speaker 1: I've done this before, but blessed Ard for his ability
Speaker 1: to have now longer segments so that I don't need
Speaker 1: to run through the process. I can walk you through
Speaker 1: it first came acknowledgment, then came acceptance. Once they acknowledged
Speaker 1: and accepted, very quickly, they moved to level three, which
Speaker 1: was now it's turned time for you to approve. And
Speaker 1: you and I were looking saying, wait a minute, okay.
Speaker 1: So this is where elections have consequences, because when a
Speaker 1: movement is taking place on one side, on the other side,
Speaker 1: the movement is now stacking the judicial system with people
Speaker 1: who are activists. Throughout human history, the judges and the
Speaker 1: electorate and the people who are put in positions of
Speaker 1: power within the court system were always only designed to
Speaker 1: enforce the law. It doesn't take a five data kappa
Speaker 1: from MIT to figure that that's what the founding fathers intended.
Speaker 1: Where Congress shall pass the laws, the executive shall sign
Speaker 1: them into action, and the judiciary will make sure they're
Speaker 1: enforced as laws of the land. When you get activism
Speaker 1: in the judicial side, people are not just writing opinions.
Speaker 1: They're writing in interpretations of their own prejudices of how
Speaker 1: they believe about something. So suddenly this nation with bated
Speaker 1: breath waits for certain periods of the year when nine
Speaker 1: people in black robes wake up, eat their cereal and
Speaker 1: we wonder if they're happy or not, and whether they're ruling,
Speaker 1: will either favor us or favor us or not. Once
Speaker 1: that approval part happened, all the die has been all.
Speaker 1: You know, The chips are now down, the dye has
Speaker 1: been cast. You're behind the eight ball. Whatever analogy you
Speaker 1: want to use, whatever colloquialism you want to attach. We
Speaker 1: are now standing in suburbia, looking over our fences, saying,
Speaker 1: what happened? I came to a country all these years ago.
Speaker 1: I worked hard, I paid my taxes, I was on
Speaker 1: the school board, my children are homeschooled. Whatever it is.
Speaker 2: You're the good guy and the good gal, doing the
Speaker 2: right thing every single day, paying for the person behind you,
Speaker 2: paying forward, participating in missions, tithing in church generously given
Speaker 2: to the person who's you know, ringing a with the
Speaker 2: kettle outside the mall because you don't want to feel
Speaker 2: guilty as you go in and buy stuff. You did
Speaker 2: everything right, You made all the right choices, and suddenly
Speaker 2: the law has been hammered down and saying, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: not only what is parallel behavior identity issue?
Speaker 1: Gender biology no longer up for discussion. The law is
Speaker 1: the law is the law now what happened. You've acknowledged,
Speaker 1: You've accepted, and you have approved. You and I my
Speaker 1: friends now find ourselves standing on Main Street, USA, or
Speaker 1: Main Street in Disney, clapping for parades we possibly may
Speaker 1: disagree with on some foundational level. You know, one of
Speaker 1: the great travesties of these movements are not so much
Speaker 1: that they happen on our watch, and that you and I,
Speaker 1: if we are over the age of thirty, are culpable
Speaker 1: because this generation given to us, and the Ronald Reagan era,
Speaker 1: the post World War two, people who were born and
Speaker 1: changed the nation's fate and fortune. We allowed this to
Speaker 1: happen on our watch. And what happens is no longer
Speaker 1: is the main Street parade just an abhorrent behavior, which
Speaker 1: now says what happens in the privacy of a bedroom
Speaker 1: or in the sanctity of a marriage is now on
Speaker 1: public display and for vocal and visual consumption. They have
Speaker 1: decided to go after the least of these. They have
Speaker 1: decided to go after the innocent. That's what is abhorrent
Speaker 1: in the culture we are now living in. You want
Speaker 1: to talk elections, you want to talk society. You want
Speaker 1: to talk about why we need to have the right
Speaker 1: people at the right time, at the grassroots level, from
Speaker 1: the school board to the municipality, to your state, to
Speaker 1: the Senate, to Congress and eventually the presidency. When the
Speaker 1: world begins to attack wonder when the world begins to
Speaker 1: attack innocence, when they bring all these colored paraphernalia of
Speaker 1: people who are just overdressed ogres in a world trying
Speaker 1: to make cute monsters out of them, sit around three
Speaker 1: year old and four year old, and then you see
Speaker 1: those three year old and four year old kids being
Speaker 1: drugged by their own parents into these parades. I wonder
Speaker 1: what the founding fathers will say if today, when they
Speaker 1: looked up after having signed that document, realizing they were
Speaker 1: getting ready to commit treason, if they looked up and
Speaker 1: saw the parade, not the parade that was given to
Speaker 1: Franklin and some of the others, with the parade that
Speaker 1: we now, and they'll ask themselves, was this the republic
Speaker 1: that we thought was worth fighting for? I think they
Speaker 1: will say yes, because they had second guess every one
Speaker 1: of these moods. That's why the Constitution and the Bill
Speaker 1: of Rights and the Declaration was some of the most
Speaker 1: gallant things ever written in history, because none something like
Speaker 1: that had never been written. When we come back after
Speaker 1: the break, we'll deal with another segment talking about the
Speaker 1: importance of God in this diatribe and how God matters
Speaker 1: in the election more after this. All right, dear friends listeners,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the Todd Huff Show, Conservative Not Bitter,
Speaker 1: the home of Conservative Not Bitter. This is your guest host,
Speaker 1: Chrish Dunna'm filling in for my dear friend Todd Huff
Speaker 1: as he gets that reprieve, as he has to accelerate
Speaker 1: that which he does in the days and months ahead,
Speaker 1: as we have this republic to save. For those of
Speaker 1: you listening in the great state of Indiana where all
Speaker 1: of this eventually originally began, I plan to be there,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to ask Todd to make that announcement
Speaker 1: at some point when he comes back. But we may
Speaker 1: be on the verge of doing something for God and
Speaker 1: country about a month before the election in some part
Speaker 1: around that place, So hopefully we'll be able to get
Speaker 1: you guys a little jazzed up and have some speakers
Speaker 1: and some music there that will allow us to reflect
Speaker 1: on the beauty of where we live, the scenery around
Speaker 1: which we live and why it is worth saving for austerity,
Speaker 1: not by trying to discount, delineate, or discourage people from
Speaker 1: other worldviews. We want to continue to be the melting pot.
Speaker 1: We want to continue to participate in the Great Commission
Speaker 1: and the Great Commandment, but we don't want them to
Speaker 1: be mutually exclusive in that we want to go and
Speaker 1: tell people that we love them, but we love them
Speaker 1: because of who sent us, and vice versa. So I
Speaker 1: hope I did not overwhelm you with that, you know
Speaker 1: where I didn't take a breath for that first segment,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to try to cover a lot of
Speaker 1: what I think is important. I'm going to be with
Speaker 1: you for this hour and the next hour, and then
Speaker 1: for a couple of hours after the weekend is due,
Speaker 1: and hopefully during this time if you have any questions
Speaker 1: today and want to reach out to me, my email
Speaker 1: is Chrish. That's rh at Chris Dunham so again kh
Speaker 1: At Krish, d A. Nam Deis and David ha n
Speaker 1: is In, Nancy am Is in Mary Chris Dunham dot com.
Speaker 1: Chris at Chris Dunham dot com. I have been in
Speaker 1: this nation now for about thirty eight years and have
Speaker 1: traveled the length and breadth of it as a motivational speaker.
Speaker 1: I was raised in an orthodox Hindu family, converted to
Speaker 1: Christianity at the behest and teachings of a man named
Speaker 1: mister zig Ziggler, who many of you will know. For
Speaker 1: those of you who don't know who mister zig Ziggler is,
Speaker 1: just look it up. He was one of the quintessential
Speaker 1: motivational geniuses of our time that truly and favorably always
Speaker 1: articulated not only a triune God, but a triune man
Speaker 1: who had to be grateful for looking up at a God,
Speaker 1: leaning on a family, and standing on proudly on the
Speaker 1: roots of posterity, God, family and country. So when we
Speaker 1: began this show, we said, let's talk elections. We talked
Speaker 1: about the consequences that elections have. We said, we need
Speaker 1: to begin a conversation. I basically highlighted some of the
Speaker 1: choices that the others made for us, choices we never
Speaker 1: made for ourselves. For you who are quasi independent, some
Speaker 1: of you may be already ultra conservative, and you may
Speaker 1: have issues with the candidates, and you know this whole
Speaker 1: lesser of ea, all of that other conversation being a
Speaker 1: side I don't think we're trying to elect the pope
Speaker 1: or we're trying to elect the bishop. So sometimes we
Speaker 1: have to get off. I tell people, as a believer
Speaker 1: in the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the deliverance that
Speaker 1: comes therein my simplest way, is the only way I
Speaker 1: get off my high horse is realizing that at the
Speaker 1: time of triumphal entry, my Lord himself came in on
Speaker 1: a donkey. While it's blasphemy to make scripture sound whatever
Speaker 1: you wanted to sound, I just took the animal out
Speaker 1: of the equation and said, when you're on your high horse,
Speaker 1: remember that your Lord came in on donkey. Don't get
Speaker 1: theological into that. There's no theological statement in there. It's
Speaker 1: just my imagery of how my Lord humbled himself to
Speaker 1: his ultimate sacrifice, and we need to humble ourselves in
Speaker 1: this process to ask ourselves, is this republic worth saving?
Speaker 1: And if it is worth saving, what are the choices
Speaker 1: I have been presented in front of me. A choice
Speaker 1: that would save this republic, that would in some way
Speaker 1: provide protection for the unborn, A choice that will actually
Speaker 1: give the right to vote to only those who are
Speaker 1: citizens of this great nation. The choice that will say that,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't care what your social economic
Speaker 1: strata was where you came from. If you're in the
Speaker 1: asylum process, go through the asylum process, like the people
Speaker 1: who came to the Land of Liberty and actually had
Speaker 1: to go through the process of being sequestered if they
Speaker 1: were contaminated or taken too contamination zones, if they were infected.
Speaker 1: This is how it has always been done. This is
Speaker 1: still how it has done in war torn countries when
Speaker 1: you end up in a refugee camp. Now I live
Speaker 1: in Texas, and it's almost like open season. I heard
Speaker 1: one border patrol agent or one person talk about the
Speaker 1: fact that in the days of old, a farmer may
Speaker 1: have had fifteen hundred acres that bordered the entire His
Speaker 1: entire property was one long border, and so whatever law
Speaker 1: he had on his land was the law he had
Speaker 1: on his land, so he prevented any crossings. But now
Speaker 1: one of the guys says that it's almost like you've
Speaker 1: got a small five yard and six yard pitches, like
Speaker 1: you know, just imagine mowing your yard and going against
Speaker 1: the grain. You see those rows formed. He says, that's
Speaker 1: how property is in some parts of the state where
Speaker 1: one guy may agree with allowing a border patrol agent
Speaker 1: to patrol his border, and another may say it's my right,
Speaker 1: don't do it because this is what I want to do. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm giving you a practical illustration of a porous It
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with asylum. If the number of
Speaker 1: people crossing that border now range one hundred and fifty countries,
Speaker 1: I don't want even go into the extremism that that
Speaker 1: border will create or what the background of the people is.
Speaker 1: But I want you to have this image that anthropologically
Speaker 1: and historically has been given since Aristotle and when rhetoric
Speaker 1: was born, so that if you want to have a
Speaker 1: conversation with someone, just say this. Anytime in human history
Speaker 1: you have seen men and women hold their belongings and
Speaker 1: go in a certain direction. They were fleeing war. Anytime
Speaker 1: you just see a group of men with no women
Speaker 1: in sight and no children in sight, and they're quasi
Speaker 1: well dressed and they have a suitcase, they're headed to war.
Speaker 1: These are people being designed and designated to infiltrate us.
Speaker 1: And over a period of time, certainly you're going to
Speaker 1: wake up and ask yourself, I wonder what happened that's
Speaker 1: the truth. Now you may want to disagree with it
Speaker 1: because Indiana is far away, or Utah is far away,
Speaker 1: or wherever you're listening. But as I have traveled this country,
Speaker 1: I have seen that the migrant crisis in this nation
Speaker 1: that is now tipping twenty and twenty five and thirty
Speaker 1: million people are here to stay. Now. We can have
Speaker 1: promises made that there'll be mass deportation day one, but
Speaker 1: the irony is I can believe that we haven't been
Speaker 1: able to find them now, and some people saying we
Speaker 1: may never be able to find them, which is a
Speaker 1: crop hunto itself for the simple reason that I know
Speaker 1: if I don't pay my taxes for a couple of years,
Speaker 1: they're going to find me. We know where people are.
Speaker 1: My friends. If you own a smartphone and you have
Speaker 1: talked to your bride with the microphone nothing, your phone
Speaker 1: is not even on, and the phone is between you
Speaker 1: and your significant other in the house, and you talk
Speaker 1: about a product very soon on each other's speed of
Speaker 1: social media, you will see advertisements for that particular product.
Speaker 1: If the algorithm can actually come into the confines of
Speaker 1: your house through your smart device and tell you what
Speaker 1: you're thinking about buying just because you've vocalized it once
Speaker 1: you think they don't know where you are. That is
Speaker 1: so as I mean again, you know, if you buy that,
Speaker 1: we've got swamp planned kind of thing. But these are
Speaker 1: my concerns. My concerns are that the arguments we are
Speaker 1: having are not real arguments. We are trying to argue
Speaker 1: stuff that shouldn't actually even exist. When I'm talking to
Speaker 1: someone and he's saying a voter idea is racist or
Speaker 1: voters are not you know, we shouldn't be worried about
Speaker 1: people coming through and bussing them to another city is
Speaker 1: illegal and it's inconstitutional. You know, it's bloney. You look
Speaker 1: at the hospitals being overrun, and anybody who wants emergency
Speaker 1: care can walk in, whether they have documentation or not.
Speaker 1: And I'm coughing up four hundred dollars a month in insurance,
Speaker 1: and my bride is coughing up another eight hundred with
Speaker 1: our pre existing conditions, and if we're coughing up twelve
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month in insurance so that when we
Speaker 1: walk in we can show them a card saying that
Speaker 1: I'm paying into this, I need treatment, And they're looking
Speaker 1: at you and saying, wait a minute, we're overrun, and
Speaker 1: somehow I've got to tiptoe back out of there, because
Speaker 1: if I say the wrong thing, I'm going to be
Speaker 1: branded bigoted or racist or prejudiced. Folks, it's time to
Speaker 1: wake up. I know. The conversation has to be not bitter,
Speaker 1: and the question is not about anger. The question is
Speaker 1: about rhetoric. The question is about logic. Logic rule one
Speaker 1: oh one, the law of non contradiction. Two things cannot
Speaker 1: exist in the same mood, with the same relationship at
Speaker 1: the same time when they are provided and presented in
Speaker 1: opposite ways. So same thing with the language issue. There
Speaker 1: are certain parts of this country and certain parts of
Speaker 1: the state of Texas I go to when I ask
Speaker 1: for service and they look at me and say, I
Speaker 1: don't speak English. Now I'm an immigrant. Tell me this.
Speaker 1: This should not bother me in some way or at
Speaker 1: least get me concerned about the fact of how far
Speaker 1: have we come that we don't have that basic civic need,
Speaker 1: saying you know what, if you're in the service sector,
Speaker 1: you need to be able to at least answer the
Speaker 1: questions of those that are footing the bill for the
Speaker 1: establishment to exist in the first place. These are my concerns.
Speaker 1: So we've talked about consequences. We've talked about having a
Speaker 1: conversation crossing the street. We talked about some of the
Speaker 1: choices that we have made, some of the choices made
Speaker 1: for us. We talked about the conviction, the concerns. When
Speaker 1: we come back in the last segment of the first hour,
Speaker 1: I'm going to begin the concept of what are the
Speaker 1: convictions we need to have, what are the compromise and commitment.
Speaker 1: We may deal with that in the second hour of
Speaker 1: the first day. But again, my name is Chris Dunham.
Speaker 1: My email is Chris at Chris Dunham dot com. In
Speaker 1: the past, when I have come on this show, some
Speaker 1: of you have been kind to send out a message
Speaker 1: which he then forwarded to me, and kindly reach out
Speaker 1: to me, and we'll talk to you more when we
Speaker 1: come back after the break. Thanks a lot for listening.
Speaker 1: Hang in there, we'll be right back after these message.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, dear friends. This is Krish Dunham filling in
Speaker 1: for Todd Huff on the Home of Conservative Not Better.
Speaker 1: When Todd asked me if I wanted to do the
Speaker 1: show again and said it had gone to an expanded format.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I only fill in because this is an
Speaker 1: art form that I'm still learning, and so if there
Speaker 1: are hiccups along the way, or you can hear a
Speaker 1: sound in the background, it's because of me, as an amateur,
Speaker 1: trying to help a friend and trying to learn or
Speaker 1: be part of a conversation that is a little more mainstream. Again.
Speaker 1: My name is Chrish Dunham and I live in the
Speaker 1: great state of Texas, have for all my life in
Speaker 1: these yere United States, and currently am participating in a
Speaker 1: week long program that is just really close and dear
Speaker 1: to my heart. It's called Patriot Academy. Patriot Academy. It's
Speaker 1: a movement that was started by a friend of mine
Speaker 1: who served in the Texas legislature many moons ago, and
Speaker 1: I think Todd is interview him in the past, and
Speaker 1: the gentleman and I have been very, very dear friends
Speaker 1: for over thirty years. I was there the night he
Speaker 1: proposed to his wife. I had the privilege of performing
Speaker 1: the wedding of his older boy, and so we go
Speaker 1: back as family very very many many years, and I
Speaker 1: have occasionally come and done a talk here, done a
Speaker 1: talk there. Over the years for him, and now we
Speaker 1: are finally seeing the culmination of a dream for the
Speaker 1: Republic that we need to save. And Patriot Academy now
Speaker 1: has a brand new campus. Again there's no shameless plug here.
Speaker 1: You can go and take It's a nationwide movement. We
Speaker 1: recently had a Patriot Academy at the Indiana Capital where
Speaker 1: we had some young kids come in and taught them
Speaker 1: the entire art and science of motivation and civics and momentum.
Speaker 1: They actually go into committee, understand what a bill is,
Speaker 1: learn how to bring a bill, learn how to canvass it,
Speaker 1: Learn how it gets out of committee, learn how to
Speaker 1: debate it on the floor. Learn how to see if
Speaker 1: the amendment is needed for your bill, See if it'll go,
Speaker 1: See if the governor will pass it, see if the
Speaker 1: Senate and the Chamber will vote for it. So these
Speaker 1: are kids eighteen to twenty two who go through this process.
Speaker 1: The reason I'm sharing that with you is just something
Speaker 1: It is real heartening and gratifying to see. When I
Speaker 1: look at my own convictions, I know that I talk
Speaker 1: a lot about the things that have gone wrong in
Speaker 1: this nation and the time I've been here, and I
Speaker 1: apologize to these kids that it happened on my watch.
Speaker 1: The reason I say my watch and not our watches.
Speaker 1: There was a time in my journey where I was
Speaker 1: more concerned with paying my bill, putting my mortgage, putting
Speaker 1: my son through college, and taking care of my aged
Speaker 1: parents and me myself and I whether I'm Conservative, or
Speaker 1: whether I'm Republican, or whether I'm American or not is
Speaker 1: not the issue. Survival, you know, went back to the
Speaker 1: basics of Maslow's theory of hierarchy, and that was my journey.
Speaker 1: But then when I began anchoring and being part of
Speaker 1: this journey in the last twenty years, I thought to myself,
Speaker 1: in that short period of time, we have already seen
Speaker 1: some of our people become victorious at different stages around
Speaker 1: the nation. And as a result of that, I thought
Speaker 1: to myself, I said, you know, I wish more people
Speaker 1: would just it's not a question of whether we are
Speaker 1: right or we are left, or we're good or we're bad,
Speaker 1: or we're up or we're down. Is there a way
Speaker 1: to study basic civics? Is there a way to study
Speaker 1: what a republic means? Is there a way to understand
Speaker 1: the consequence of a single vote? Think about it. In
Speaker 1: the chamber of any place where they are passing a
Speaker 1: resolution that will eventually go to the upper floor and
Speaker 1: eventually to the President or whatever for a bill to
Speaker 1: eventually become a law of the land, a single vote
Speaker 1: can derail it. Not in the opinions and all of that,
Speaker 1: but in the way the two third majority works. And
Speaker 1: in some states it's two thirds of the elected body.
Speaker 1: In some states it's two thirds of those present, and
Speaker 1: so a vote is very important. Well, if the vote
Speaker 1: is important in the halls where the votes are being exercised,
Speaker 1: how much more important is my vote to make sure
Speaker 1: the right person gets into that hall or the right
Speaker 1: number of people get into that congressional seat. While the
Speaker 1: election that is coming up is for the President of
Speaker 1: the United States. Congress goes through an election every two years,
Speaker 1: and we need to be making sure that we have
Speaker 1: the right people at the school board level. We have
Speaker 1: to have the right people at the county level, we
Speaker 1: have to have the right people at the state level.
Speaker 1: And that's what I mean when I go through the
Speaker 1: process of watching these kids, and I call them kids
Speaker 1: because they're about forty years my junior, but I think
Speaker 1: if they are learning the stuff at the age of
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen twenty, and many of them come three and
Speaker 1: four years in a row, so they completely immersed in
Speaker 1: the process and understand the process. I asked myself, I said, wow,
Speaker 1: what would happen? I mean, just think about it. Most
Speaker 1: people who are elected to office don't even know the process.
Speaker 1: They spend the first year learning the process, and their
Speaker 1: clerks actually educate them. The clerks actually read the bills
Speaker 1: and tell them, hey, based on your constituents and based
Speaker 1: on all of the stuff that your people know, these
Speaker 1: are the people. This is what you need to think,
Speaker 1: and then the individuality will come in. But a majority
Speaker 1: of these people are learning the procedure on the fly.
Speaker 1: Think about how great. And this is why I'm saying
Speaker 1: it's important. When I look at eighteen to twenty two
Speaker 1: year old I always used to think myself, man, these
Speaker 1: guys are young, and then I thought about the people
Speaker 1: who fought to say to frame this republic. Thomas Jefferson
Speaker 1: was thirty four, I think when he wrote the Declaration
Speaker 1: of Independence. Alexander Hamilton was nineteen and twenty when he
Speaker 1: was manning the cannons that had been brought from Taekwondo
Speaker 1: Roga in those in that Battle of New York. I mean,
Speaker 1: this man goes on to become the first Secretary of
Speaker 1: the Treasure at the age of fourteen and fifteen he's
Speaker 1: writing great reviews. And you know, these stories fascinate me.
Speaker 1: But they happen to people who were very, very young.
Speaker 1: Now why is it that they were able to stand tall,
Speaker 1: walk proud, and make legislation and eventually write a charter
Speaker 1: and create a document that had never been done in
Speaker 1: the history of human existence. I think there's something very
Speaker 1: profound as to how they began. And what we'll do
Speaker 1: is when we come back, we'll talk about some of
Speaker 1: the compromises and the commitments we need to make when
Speaker 1: we do the second hour, and then I will begin
Speaker 1: to show some seeds about some of the exciting things
Speaker 1: that we can be doing at our level in the
Speaker 1: next couple of months to make sure this thing is
Speaker 1: what we want it to be. Stay tuned. We'll be
Speaker 1: back in the next hour.