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<v Speaker 2>at wide receivers. It's a wide receiver primer episode where

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<v Speaker 2>show us the love. We love you, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Wide receiver ranks. That's what we're gonna do today. There

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<v Speaker 2>are so many to talk about. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>do it justice. We'll probably have to be a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit quicker than we were with running backs because you

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<v Speaker 2>get to thirty six running backs, you're getting into like

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<v Speaker 2>your bench territory. Thirty six running backs is scratching the

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<v Speaker 2>surface of what anybody's starting. Whether you do two outfielder

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<v Speaker 2>three outfielders. I know it's baseball three ways your.

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<v Speaker 3>Brain because you just called wide receivers, running backs and outfielders.

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<v Speaker 2>Just now, no, No, I meant like the running I

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<v Speaker 2>know what you meant. Thirty six running backs. Yeah, sorry

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't. We did thirty six running backs, which

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<v Speaker 2>gets into the bench range of running.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty six wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty six wide receivers, not outfielders, but similar to wide

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<v Speaker 2>or similar to outfielders. It's like you're just scratching the

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<v Speaker 2>surface of who you're going to start, whether it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's there's so many guys to talk about. So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll try to be a little bit more quick than

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<v Speaker 2>we were in in the running back episode to get

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<v Speaker 2>lots and lots of names. But that is a plan

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<v Speaker 2>here again kind of just setting. We call it the

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<v Speaker 2>primer because it's just set in the stage. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the rank. Bobmin might throw some thoughts in there. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you some of the statistical categories where the tears

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<v Speaker 2>might change. And this is gonna just kind of set

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<v Speaker 2>us up for the baseline for you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of we're gonna be like sleepers and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Mock drafts, and then obviously when we do our rank episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>where and what is going to change. The funny thing is, though,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to look even three or four years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>it is actually incredible and it's the staying power of

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<v Speaker 2>why you should take wide receivers so high. This ass

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't changed. It's just the same names in slightly different orders,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. It's like dude two three

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, it's just the same. Guess what, Jamar Chase

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<v Speaker 2>and Jig but he's higher now. He was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit lower, a Mona sayting frown. It's just all the

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<v Speaker 2>same ten. It feels like roughly are just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>jumbled together. There's a little bit of change, but the

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<v Speaker 2>lack of parody is actually nice for the sustainability for

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<v Speaker 2>wide receivers. I think I asked you about this in

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<v Speaker 2>the running backs, but when you look at the wide

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<v Speaker 2>receivers just as a quick arching thing before we get

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<v Speaker 2>into the episode, do you feel are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>do the like wide receiver is so good in depthy

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<v Speaker 2>that you want to make sure you prioritize ther running

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<v Speaker 2>back in the first round or do you think there's

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<v Speaker 2>some falloffs and the sustainability of wide receivers makes you

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<v Speaker 2>feel good, even though some wide receivers definitely had some

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<v Speaker 2>weird up and down points. I think I want to

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<v Speaker 2>say Chase had a weird run Puka. Obviously there were

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<v Speaker 2>just some weird spacing where some of those wide receivers

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<v Speaker 2>were big question marks. They obviously found it back. But

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think your overall approach is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be more wide receiver heavy finally, or the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years you've been like, I got to get a

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<v Speaker 2>running back in the first two rounds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think running backs are deeper than they typically

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<v Speaker 3>have been in general, So I'm probably I'm I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm going to be at the point of where

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<v Speaker 3>I say you absolutely have to take a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say the wide receiver is more valuable up at

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<v Speaker 3>the very top we can say that, you know, but

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<v Speaker 3>I and I don't think that's the case this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Bejeon and Gibbs are way up there, and

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<v Speaker 3>so a CMC. So no, I mean, I think that

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<v Speaker 3>what has changed is that I'm not so hardcore about

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<v Speaker 3>running backs this year because there's a lot I like,

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<v Speaker 3>so wide receiver. I think I think the wide receiver

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<v Speaker 3>has more of a cap than it has had recently.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm probably gonna mix way more am I drafting

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<v Speaker 3>this year than I typically.

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<v Speaker 2>Have no, like zero running back type of stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe you float around with like, you know, little

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<v Speaker 2>versions of that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's definitely a possibility specifically with also, you know, tight

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<v Speaker 3>end being top heavy in my opinion, so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'll be finding depth a wide receiver and

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<v Speaker 3>running back that I like this year because I'll probably

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<v Speaker 3>be taking its tight end pretty high.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, let's dig into it. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the injections, the stats, the ranks, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to try to get through as many wide receivers

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<v Speaker 2>as we can. Here Again, you guys want to check

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<v Speaker 2>out the ranks that are going down, go to in

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<v Speaker 2>this league dot com. You can see Bogman's mine WI

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<v Speaker 2>be up probably the right around the beginning of July

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<v Speaker 2>is when I'm going to have mine in. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to check all those out, get set for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever format we got you covered. Plus, you can be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of those mock drafts when we do them.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's talk about some wide receivers and we will

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<v Speaker 2>do it right after this. Hey in this league, look at.

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<v Speaker 1>Us, Look at us?

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<v Speaker 2>Who would have thought not made?

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<v Speaker 1>Not made?

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<v Speaker 2>Who would have thought?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Again, we are using ECR. This is the Fantasy Pros

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<v Speaker 2>consensus rank. I think it's just a really good baseline

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to understand values. Obviously, things will change

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<v Speaker 2>on a site that you're playing on, if you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>f FPC or you're doing Yahoo or ESPN, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of have their own driven ranks. But this

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<v Speaker 2>is the consensus thought process of probably around fifty rankers

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<v Speaker 2>out there, fifty industry people that are creating this consensus.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's just a really good baseline. And

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<v Speaker 2>your top three I think they're relatively standard. Jamar Chase,

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<v Speaker 2>for jesus, what dude like the fourth raight Year comes

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<v Speaker 2>in as like the number one guy, number one wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 2>pukin Akua with some question marks, of course, not from

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<v Speaker 2>how he produces on the field. It's more produces off

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<v Speaker 2>the field. And Jackson Smith and Jigma who took that

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<v Speaker 2>huge jump, that is your top three Tier one statistically

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<v Speaker 2>Pukinakua average the most points per game twenty three point four,

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<v Speaker 2>compared to twenty one point two for Jackson Smith and

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<v Speaker 2>Jigba and just nineteen point six for Jamar Chase. That

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<v Speaker 2>was still plenty, but kind of a tier down from them,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes way above them. He received more targets

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<v Speaker 2>with one hundred and eighty five. The most catches went

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<v Speaker 2>to Pooka Nakua with one twenty nine. Puka and Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>Smith and Jigba both went over seventeen hundred receiving yards,

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<v Speaker 2>Smith getting the most fourteen hundred for Jamar Chase. We

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<v Speaker 2>had ten touchdowns for Puka and JSN. Jamar Chase put

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<v Speaker 2>up just eight. I think there's an assumption that, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, Puka had one hundred yards rushing in a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's an assumption that, like you know, Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow and this season, you know, getting him back and

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<v Speaker 2>healthy and running like Jamar Chase with that target share,

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<v Speaker 2>like the touchdowns are going to go up, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of why he gets thrown up at the top. Bagman,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the exact same kind of rank here. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you agree with this tier of these three wide receivers

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<v Speaker 2>and how are you approaching them?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not. I think it should be one through six,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll give you my reasons why when we move

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<v Speaker 3>down to the next tier. But I do have the

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<v Speaker 3>same order it is Chase, Puka, Nakua, and JSN. I

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<v Speaker 3>do think they're at the tippy top. I also I also,

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<v Speaker 3>even though I would include three other guys in this tier,

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't draft him ahead of those guys. And I

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<v Speaker 3>know that is a marker for you. Plus yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to point out that these are the

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<v Speaker 3>six that I think could all possibly end up as

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver ones. And once we jump down a tier,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get in.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I don't want to comment on that,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that's a good point. That maybe something

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<v Speaker 2>that's when I speak about my hardcore tiers that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>missing when I do it, is that like if you

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<v Speaker 2>just simplify it and say here's the six and then

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<v Speaker 2>you go, okay, But I have Jamar Chase at one,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's the number one guy sometimes and this is

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<v Speaker 2>why it gets a little confusing, because there are tiers,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's when the tears get lower that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people will use the I definitely don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to use the term crutch argument. Don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>get you know, soon for that specific statement by somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, I don't want to use it. But there

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<v Speaker 2>definitely are people that will just get to a tier

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll just be like, I like all the guys

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<v Speaker 2>in this tier kind of interchangeable. Hey, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to have this guy higher, doesn't bother me, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>So that type, that same vibe I think sometimes I

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<v Speaker 2>take to the higher tiers, and that's why I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be more specific where I'm like, well, guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine if you have this all the way down

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<v Speaker 2>to Justin Jefferson. But I'm not taking ever ten out

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<v Speaker 2>of ten times Justin Jefferson over Jamar Chase. But what

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying should be understood, and I think it's more

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<v Speaker 2>important to hire tiers is that I'm just I'm following

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<v Speaker 2>the numerical form of this tier. But you said it great.

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<v Speaker 2>I think all of these guys have the potential to

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<v Speaker 2>be the number one fantasy option, but I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to follow it to this. So that's where tears get

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<v Speaker 2>kind of weird to me. It's like, you probably want

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<v Speaker 2>to follow the valuation on the higher tiers and then

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<v Speaker 2>the lower tiers. I think everybody just starts going like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just like all these guys the same. But so

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<v Speaker 2>that's what's uh. I just wanted to mention that because

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<v Speaker 2>I see my own flaw in the logic of how.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even think yours is a flaw, to be

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<v Speaker 3>honest with you, because I think there is a good

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<v Speaker 3>point to saying, like, hey, look, if you're never ever

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<v Speaker 3>going to take Justin Jefferson ahead of Jamar Chase, then

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<v Speaker 3>why even put them in the same tier. I understand

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<v Speaker 3>that thought process, but for me, and specifically with why receiver,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's deep I separated by Okay, this is the

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<v Speaker 3>clear tier. Any of these guys can finish number one.

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<v Speaker 3>Would I ever draft Jefferson over Chase? No, But I

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<v Speaker 3>do have them in the same tier because I think

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<v Speaker 3>that they could. Either one of these guys could finish

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<v Speaker 3>as wide receiver one and would not be surprising. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's way more likely Jamar Chase finished his number

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<v Speaker 3>one overall. He finished number two or three overall last

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<v Speaker 3>year with Joe Burrow missing eight games. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot, there's a lot of room for growth

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<v Speaker 3>for Jamar Chase, uh if he plays a full season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and with Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, how I would do this is

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<v Speaker 2>I would have like I mean, I almost got to

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<v Speaker 2>go against myself. I probably have like Chase in his

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<v Speaker 2>own tier, and then Puka and jsin. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>actually the first time I actually think all three are good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm good with all three of these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>If I wasn't, I actually probably wouldn't put the the

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<v Speaker 2>next three into the top tier. Though I do agree

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<v Speaker 2>with your argument. I would say, like, these are the

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<v Speaker 2>guys that are I actually think they do become more interchangeable,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is where things are get wonky with the interchangeability.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are the projections, So this is the consensus projections

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<v Speaker 2>on Fantasy pros right now. Jamar Chase is the third

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<v Speaker 2>projected wide receiver. He's number one in the ranks, third

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<v Speaker 2>in the projections, and he's over It's about twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>point differential from the number one guy, who is Puka Nakua,

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<v Speaker 2>So that means JSN is number two the projections, Puka

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<v Speaker 2>number one with a hunt d D D D one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty five catches sixteen hundred little over sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred yards and nine touchdowns plus another one hundred yards

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<v Speaker 2>rushing they're throwing in there, and a touchdown jays in

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and nineteen catches, so that's six less a

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<v Speaker 2>few more yards over sixteen hundred ten point eight touchdowns

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, nothing really on the rushing side. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Jamar Chase is one hundred and twenty three catches

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<v Speaker 2>around fifteen hundred yards and ten touchdowns. They're all close,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a twenty five point step between Chase and

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<v Speaker 2>Puka Nakua, And then there's kind to your point, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to throw out there is a drop that's not

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<v Speaker 2>huge from Jamar Chase to a Mona Saint Brown, but

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<v Speaker 2>the drop from a Manra to the next guy is big.

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<v Speaker 2>So like projections would actually be telling a story that

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<v Speaker 2>a Monera Saint Brown should be in that tier or

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<v Speaker 2>could be in that tier, and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>guys should if you believe projections. So production projections are

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<v Speaker 2>pretty close on Chase, Puka and Jigba. Do you disagree

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<v Speaker 2>or agree on any does anything push you in any direction?

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<v Speaker 2>Knowing that again it's inverse order. Puka one JSN two

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<v Speaker 2>and Jamar Chase three based on projections.

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<v Speaker 3>No, nothing, nothing really changes my mind. I will say

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<v Speaker 3>that the point I like the point about that you

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<v Speaker 3>brought up about Amna Saint Brown because a Mona Saint

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<v Speaker 3>Brown has finished as wide receiver three three seasons in

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<v Speaker 3>a row, and I think, outside of maybe Jamar Chase,

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<v Speaker 3>I think a Mona Saint Brown has the highest fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>floor of any player in the league. I just think

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna be peppered with targets every year. He's consistently

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<v Speaker 3>finished as the number three wide receiver. He is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a great option as wide receiver one, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I put him in this tier.

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<v Speaker 2>And then so going into tier two. This is four

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<v Speaker 2>through eight. Amana Saint Brown is number four, Cede Lamb

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<v Speaker 2>comes in at five, Justin Jefferson at six, Drake London

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<v Speaker 2>at seven, and Nico Collins at eight. Amanra had the

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<v Speaker 2>most targets. He actually had the second most targets overall

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<v Speaker 2>with one hundred and seventy two. He caught one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seventeen balls last year for fourteen hundred yards, also

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<v Speaker 2>had eleven touchdowns, So it's very it's much more reminiscent

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<v Speaker 2>of that top tier. He averaged nineteen point one yards

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<v Speaker 2>or points per game, and obviously I just brattle off

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<v Speaker 2>those projections. They're within ten points of Jamar Chase. Ceedee

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<v Speaker 2>Lamb had one hundred and seventeen targets caught the second

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<v Speaker 2>lease balls him and Nico Collins only caught around seventy balls.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody had. Everybody but Drake London and Ceede Lamb had

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<v Speaker 2>over one hundred and twenty targets, most catches not a Mona.

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Brown was Justin Jefferson at eighty four, but he

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<v Speaker 2>had no touchdowns. Everybody but Drake London had a thousand

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<v Speaker 2>plus yards, but Drake London only played twelve games. Your

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<v Speaker 2>points per game Monra was the heavy leader. Drake London

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<v Speaker 2>was number two at sixteen point eight, Nico Collins fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>point one, Ceedee Lamb fourteen point four, Justin Jefferson down

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<v Speaker 2>there at eleven point nine. It's very touchdown dependent here,

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<v Speaker 2>and on the touchdowns, a Monra just destroyed everybody in

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<v Speaker 2>this tier with eleven. The next highest was London at seven,

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<v Speaker 2>Nico at six. And then the positive touchdown regression that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are gonna play are Justin Jefferson

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<v Speaker 2>and Ceedde Lamb. This is why they're this high. Jefferson

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<v Speaker 2>caught two touchdowns and Ceedee Lamb only caught three this

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<v Speaker 2>past year, so that's it's a weird grouping. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>where when you make your argument of the top six,

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<v Speaker 2>you have Cede Lamb and Justin Jefferson in that top six.

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<v Speaker 2>They were held down relatively dramatically by the touchdown. But

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<v Speaker 2>even if you added more touchdowns, Cedy's points per game

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<v Speaker 2>are probably still relatively low, into the maybe sixteens. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you gave, you know, ten touchdowns to Justin Jefferson,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that gets him to like fifteen to sixteen points

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<v Speaker 2>per game. It's just it's still not in that upper tier.

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<v Speaker 2>So you had to kind of talk about a mono

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Brown. I'll do projections here. Why don't you specifically

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<v Speaker 2>hit on Ceede Lamb and Jefferson who you put in

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<v Speaker 2>that range?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So, Jefferson had the worst quarterback play that I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen in a long time last year. Max brossmer for

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of games. McCarthy was awful for the most part,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Carson Wentz might have been his best option,

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<v Speaker 3>and Carson Wentz is playing gimpy for most of his

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<v Speaker 3>games with Minnesota. I remember watching Wentz against Pittsburgh in

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<v Speaker 3>Ireland and it was crazy. The dude was gimpy. He

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<v Speaker 3>could barely stand upright and they were still throwing him

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<v Speaker 3>out there because Brosmer sucks so much. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>Jefferson is going to get way. Tyler Murray at the

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<v Speaker 3>helm a real NFL level quarterback, even if we don't

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<v Speaker 3>like him and things didn't mesh with Marvin Harrison. We've

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<v Speaker 3>seen him mesh with Hopkins, We've seen him mesh with

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<v Speaker 3>Larry Like there's he's He's been a good quarterback in

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<v Speaker 3>his career and he'll be way better than the mess

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<v Speaker 3>that they had last year. And I think what people

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<v Speaker 3>forget about Ceedee Lamb Ceedee Lamb had a high ankle

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<v Speaker 3>sprain week two or week three, excuse me, So he

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<v Speaker 3>had one hundred yards one hundred yards and then a

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<v Speaker 3>high ankle sprain and then drug that around for the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the year because he probably came back too

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<v Speaker 3>fast from it. So Pickens obviously also ate into him.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you want to fear these guys, because you

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<v Speaker 3>know Jefferson had a low catch total and didn't score

420
00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:46.480
<v Speaker 3>any touchdowns, and you don't like Kyler because he didn't

421
00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:49.319
<v Speaker 3>mess with Marv. I don't have a great argument against that.

422
00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:52.680
<v Speaker 3>So fine, If you think Lamb is fading and that

423
00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:56.880
<v Speaker 3>George Pickens's is better, Okay, that's fine. I understand where

424
00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:59.400
<v Speaker 3>you're coming from. I don't see it that way. I

425
00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:01.160
<v Speaker 3>still think is one of the best wide receivers in

426
00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:02.480
<v Speaker 3>the league. I still think Jefferson is one of the

427
00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:04.200
<v Speaker 3>best white outs in the league. I think they're going

428
00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:07.680
<v Speaker 3>to take a much better leap this year because things

429
00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:10.119
<v Speaker 3>will get back to a little more normal. Now. You know,

430
00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:13.359
<v Speaker 3>maybe Ceedee Lamb is getting old, but maybe Jefferson is

431
00:21:13.400 --> 00:21:16.200
<v Speaker 3>losing a step. I just don't think so.

432
00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:21.240
<v Speaker 2>So of this tier, the lowest projected player of anybody

433
00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:24.480
<v Speaker 2>in this tier is Nico Collins at eighty four catches

434
00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:27.799
<v Speaker 2>twelve hundred yards, about seven and a half touchdowns than

435
00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:30.359
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and ten points. What might so? I just

436
00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.480
<v Speaker 2>wanted to throw that out of this tier. The second

437
00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:35.799
<v Speaker 2>or the highest of this tier that's not a mono

438
00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Saint Brown is Drake London, who's projected at one hundred

439
00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:42.759
<v Speaker 2>and three catches thirteen hundred yards almost eleven touchdowns, So

440
00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:47.000
<v Speaker 2>that's higher than Lamb and Jefferson. But what might surprise

441
00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:51.039
<v Speaker 2>you is Jefferson is down here. They have more projected

442
00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:54.400
<v Speaker 2>points on George Pickens than Jefferson. Jefferson projected at one

443
00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:57.839
<v Speaker 2>hundred catches thirteen hundred yards. But what I think it

444
00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:00.920
<v Speaker 2>is getting fed up in the projections only six touchdowns

445
00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:03.160
<v Speaker 2>because he had the two. So if they start waiting

446
00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:08.400
<v Speaker 2>touchdown projection production versus last year, and if they heavily wait,

447
00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:10.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, let's say they do a three year window,

448
00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:14.279
<v Speaker 2>but they're heavily waiting this previous year, I think it's

449
00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:16.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of messy. I think it's a lot easier to

450
00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:19.359
<v Speaker 2>project Jefferson back into that eight to nine range. But

451
00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you could argue, like Kyler Murray got really weird, you know,

452
00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:26.599
<v Speaker 2>with like the wide receiver play if he is the quarterback,

453
00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:28.319
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Like he wasn't didn't get

454
00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:30.640
<v Speaker 2>the ball to Jefferson, didn't consistently get it to anybody

455
00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:32.279
<v Speaker 2>like that might go to a little bit more tight

456
00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:35.599
<v Speaker 2>end play, might play safety options, But like I would

457
00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:38.759
<v Speaker 2>probably argue, I would put Jefferson in the eight to

458
00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:40.960
<v Speaker 2>eight and a half touchdown range, and that would put

459
00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:44.079
<v Speaker 2>him above George Pickens and probably right around Ceedee Lamb.

460
00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:46.799
<v Speaker 2>So I throw that at you with those projections. Any

461
00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:50.119
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on London projecting higher than both Cede Lamb and Jefferson,

462
00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:52.400
<v Speaker 2>And then what I obviously said on Jefferson.

463
00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:54.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just don't buy it. And London has a

464
00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:58.960
<v Speaker 3>really high floor, right, he has a great floor. He

465
00:22:59.079 --> 00:23:01.960
<v Speaker 3>averaged six teen points per game last season, but again

466
00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:05.440
<v Speaker 3>he's missed games as well, and the quarterback play there

467
00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:09.480
<v Speaker 3>is unpredictable. I guess we'll say. I think it's gonna

468
00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:11.839
<v Speaker 3>be two. It might be Pennis, but they're both not

469
00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:15.039
<v Speaker 3>very good. So I don't know. I just I'm not

470
00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:18.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm way in the Jefferson camp over Drake London,

471
00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:20.799
<v Speaker 3>and I know that's not the most popular pick.

472
00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the thing I think you like if it's

473
00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Penix is you know Penix likes to throw the ball

474
00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:26.039
<v Speaker 2>to London, you know, like.

475
00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:28.160
<v Speaker 3>He likes to whoever has the ball in Atlanta has

476
00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:30.079
<v Speaker 3>to throw the ball to London because it's London. Pits

477
00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:31.920
<v Speaker 3>and bijon on those are your three targets.

478
00:23:31.920 --> 00:23:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, those just two good options. But if it's

479
00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:35.119
<v Speaker 2>to a You know what two is gonna do. Be

480
00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Jon Robinson's gonna have nine catches a game. He's just

481
00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:39.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna dump it off. That's what two it does. Who

482
00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:42.920
<v Speaker 2>is gonna throw those short line passes, which I actually

483
00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:46.640
<v Speaker 2>do think still benefit London and probably helps Pits. But

484
00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:49.480
<v Speaker 2>it's like Jhon Robinson's gonna get four billion catches a

485
00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:51.039
<v Speaker 2>game because that's just what TUA does.

486
00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:53.240
<v Speaker 3>So I think London, I think all these guys are

487
00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:58.240
<v Speaker 3>pretty quarterback proof. It's just you can't be you can't

488
00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:01.880
<v Speaker 3>be a non NFL level starter like Max Brosmer.

489
00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you think it all? Maybe Nico doesn't

490
00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:06.079
<v Speaker 2>belong in here. I feel weird.

491
00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I think he would be the one if I'm yeah,

492
00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:12.160
<v Speaker 3>if I'm picking hairs at this group, he would be

493
00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:16.160
<v Speaker 3>the one because of his injury problems. Because I think

494
00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:18.519
<v Speaker 3>Jayden Higgins can take the next step. They're gonna be better,

495
00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:21.599
<v Speaker 3>better in the running game with David Montgomery as well

496
00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:23.839
<v Speaker 3>this year. So yeah, if I'm pushing one guy out,

497
00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:25.200
<v Speaker 3>it'll probably be Nico.

498
00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.039
<v Speaker 2>The next tier. Interestingly enough, the top guy in the

499
00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:30.359
<v Speaker 2>next tier coming in at wide receiver nine is aj Brown.

500
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:32.559
<v Speaker 2>He is projected higher than Nico Collins. We can talk

501
00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:35.200
<v Speaker 2>about George Pickens is also he comes in at number ten,

502
00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:39.519
<v Speaker 2>followed by Alave, Rashi Rice, Ttero, McMillan, Molik Neighbors, DeVonta Smith,

503
00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:41.759
<v Speaker 2>and T. Higgins. So that is nine to sixteen. So

504
00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:44.839
<v Speaker 2>that's back half of wide receiver ones to the first

505
00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:48.960
<v Speaker 2>half of wide receiver twos. Some just breakdowns here. The

506
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.640
<v Speaker 2>highest projected per game highest points per game last year

507
00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:54.559
<v Speaker 2>did go to Rashi Rice, we'll talk about him at

508
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:58.319
<v Speaker 2>eighteen point eight. Number two was George Pickens at seventeen

509
00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:01.559
<v Speaker 2>point two, and then Chris Olave was actually sixteen point eight.

510
00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:05.799
<v Speaker 2>Everybody else was relatively mediocre, including AJ Brown. The targets,

511
00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Chris Olave led the way with one hundred and fifty

512
00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:12.200
<v Speaker 2>six last year, catching one hundred balls. The lowest was

513
00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Malik Neighbors because of miss time, so that one's kind

514
00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:17.599
<v Speaker 2>of wonky. But and then Rashid Rice as well because

515
00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:20.160
<v Speaker 2>he missed games. Then you would look at T. Higgins

516
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:23.119
<v Speaker 2>who comes in with ninety eight targets in fifteen games,

517
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:25.920
<v Speaker 2>still kind of low ish catches. Chris o Lave number

518
00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 2>one with one hundred, George Pickens number two with ninety three.

519
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 3>A J.

520
00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Brown caught us seventy eight balls last year and Devanta

521
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Smith caught seventy seven. That's going to be an interesting

522
00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:39.359
<v Speaker 2>thing because Brown goes to a new destination. That definitely

523
00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:41.799
<v Speaker 2>loved to spread the ball around whether they were going deep,

524
00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 2>and they love to use those rotations and go into

525
00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:45.359
<v Speaker 2>the red zone. But you now have AJ Brown and

526
00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:47.920
<v Speaker 2>now Devanta Smith becomes the number one guy in the

527
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:51.680
<v Speaker 2>yards department. George Pickens was your leader with fourteen hundred yards.

528
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:55.839
<v Speaker 2>You had AJ Brown, Chris Olave, Ttero McMillan, and Devanta

529
00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Smith that did go over one thousand yards. A lot

530
00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:00.440
<v Speaker 2>of those guys didn't because of injuries and the touchdowns.

531
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.279
<v Speaker 2>T Higgins had the most with eleven, so there might

532
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:07.000
<v Speaker 2>be some maybe negative regression in favor of Chase. Pickens

533
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.559
<v Speaker 2>and A. Lave both had nine. Very interesting. AJ Brown

534
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:13.920
<v Speaker 2>had seven last year, Tedoro with seven, Devanta Smith only four.

535
00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:17.880
<v Speaker 2>So box you can definitely see. I think there's probably

536
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.720
<v Speaker 2>tons of conversation around this. George Pickens says he will

537
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:27.480
<v Speaker 2>not hold out Malik Neighbors theoretically back Devanta Smith becomes

538
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the number one. A J. Brown, I guess goes to

539
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:32.839
<v Speaker 2>an offense, I'll actually pass the ball like and Rashid

540
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Rice is the biggest diceist player of all of them

541
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:38.000
<v Speaker 2>because and maybe we start with him, because he has

542
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:42.119
<v Speaker 2>the fifth six highest projected numbers of any player. He

543
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:45.079
<v Speaker 2>comes in at number six above Ceedee Lamb. One hundred catches,

544
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:50.839
<v Speaker 2>almost eleven hundred yards, nine touchdowns a rushing touchdown. But

545
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:54.079
<v Speaker 2>dude just got a jail, Like he's got all these

546
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:58.480
<v Speaker 2>legal problems. I have to assume there's something coming for him.

547
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:00.640
<v Speaker 2>And then there's also the unknown. I don't know how

548
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.000
<v Speaker 2>you feel about this, Like is there been any words

549
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:05.039
<v Speaker 2>of like what the hell's going to happen with him?

550
00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:06.799
<v Speaker 2>Is there going to be any more issues? Is there

551
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 2>going to be any more suspensions? Like where are you

552
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:10.480
<v Speaker 2>at on raschid Rice? Right now? He seems dicey.

553
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't think he's going to have a suspension,

554
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:17.920
<v Speaker 3>so I you know, he is dicey. I'm not the

555
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:23.160
<v Speaker 3>biggest fan. I think that he will eventually be replaced

556
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:25.279
<v Speaker 3>because the Chiefs are going to get tired of dealing

557
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:29.119
<v Speaker 3>with this stuff. So but currently he's not facing any suspension,

558
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 3>so it should be Really.

559
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:32.519
<v Speaker 2>I just didn't know if there'd be something else because

560
00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:34.759
<v Speaker 2>he just had to serve like the thirty days, and

561
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:36.759
<v Speaker 2>then he had the other thing that popped up, like

562
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>more stuff popped up. Just sometimes the NFL likes are

563
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:39.640
<v Speaker 2>cracked down.

564
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:41.559
<v Speaker 3>I just he just had he just had to serve

565
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 3>the thirty days immediately because he violated his probation. So

566
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 3>it's not a new charge or anything. It's just he

567
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:49.119
<v Speaker 3>did something wrong, so he had immediately.

568
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess violating probation. I thought that might be something

569
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>the NFL looks at, but maybe.

570
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:54.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they do. So I don't think he's

571
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:58.920
<v Speaker 3>going to face another suspension. But when is Patrick Mahomes

572
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:01.000
<v Speaker 3>going to be back? I think that's yeah, that's the

573
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:04.920
<v Speaker 3>question I think right now everyone is talking about, you

574
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:06.680
<v Speaker 3>know how they think he's going to be back for

575
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:09.759
<v Speaker 3>week one. I just highly doubt that. I think he's

576
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:11.720
<v Speaker 3>going to miss at least the first month, probably start

577
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.519
<v Speaker 3>the year on the pup. But I've been wrong before

578
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.079
<v Speaker 3>and they're going to try to rush him because he

579
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:19.720
<v Speaker 3>makes all the money in the world. So maybe he'll

580
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 3>be back for week one. But even if he's back

581
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:22.839
<v Speaker 3>for week one, and I don't think he's one hundred

582
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.960
<v Speaker 3>percent so and I don't know what else is going

583
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:29.519
<v Speaker 3>to happen with the wide receiver corps. Like Tyreek Hill

584
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:31.880
<v Speaker 3>still free agent, they could sign him. Stephan Diggs is

585
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:35.599
<v Speaker 3>still free agent, you know, so there there could be

586
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:38.200
<v Speaker 3>more things coming for the Chiefs. So not one hundred

587
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:40.279
<v Speaker 3>percent sure what's going to happen there. So Rice is dicey.

588
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:41.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be lower on him. I have him

589
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.839
<v Speaker 3>at fourteen. ZCR is twelve, So I'm just probably gonna

590
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.880
<v Speaker 3>let Rashie Rice be somebody else's issue for this year.

591
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:54.759
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about the AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith.

592
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's look at the projections on both of these guys.

593
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 2>AJ Brown comes in and this isn't numerically said. It

594
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>looks like number ten tennant wide receiver projections. Eighty nine

595
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:06.559
<v Speaker 2>catches almost thirteen hundred yards eight touchdowns for the Patriots.

596
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Devanta Smith ninety catches around one thousand and fifty six touchdowns.

597
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 2>So it actually looks like they're kind of laying down

598
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:19.799
<v Speaker 2>the touchdown production with Philly maybe right Philly. So those

599
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.359
<v Speaker 2>guys are between I said, I think AJ Brown is ten.

600
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:24.839
<v Speaker 2>I think Dewanta Smith is like fifteen in projection. But

601
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Dewanta Smith actually projected for more Yeah, more catches, just

602
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>less yards and touchdowns. What do you think about I

603
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:33.559
<v Speaker 2>don't want to say new destinations, but Brown's a new destination.

604
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 2>Smith is probably just a new position. As far as

605
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:38.880
<v Speaker 2>like targets on the team.

606
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I think it's beneficial for both of

607
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.480
<v Speaker 3>them obviously, right, So I think DeVante Smith is going

608
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 3>to see more targets than he's had in his career.

609
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:50.319
<v Speaker 3>Is it going to be, you know, enough to make

610
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:53.200
<v Speaker 3>him a no doubt wide receiver one? I'm not quite there,

611
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:57.359
<v Speaker 3>h Jalen Hurt still isn't fantastic at passing the ball.

612
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.559
<v Speaker 3>It's not a strong suit. And they added my Kyle Lemon,

613
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.759
<v Speaker 3>they added they traded for Dantavian Wicks, They you know,

614
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.480
<v Speaker 3>drafted Eli Sowers and resigned Goddard. So it's not all

615
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:09.640
<v Speaker 3>gonna go to DeVante, but he should see a nice uptick,

616
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:11.359
<v Speaker 3>So I think it's nice for him, And I think

617
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:16.000
<v Speaker 3>AJ Brown being in a why with a quarterback that

618
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.240
<v Speaker 3>can actually get the ball to him downfield is going

619
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 3>to be outstanding for him. So I'm probably more excited

620
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:24.400
<v Speaker 3>about Aj Brown moving than I am for DeVante Smith

621
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 3>getting a. J Brown out of the offense.

622
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Because I was gonna ask is, like, what are

623
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:30.960
<v Speaker 2>you more comfortable with mid second round AJ Brown or

624
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.759
<v Speaker 2>mid third round DeVonta Smith? Like which, if you have

625
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:35.240
<v Speaker 2>the choice, You've got it. You gotta go.

626
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:37.759
<v Speaker 3>You're okay? Yeah?

627
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:42.799
<v Speaker 2>And he's twenty one on this is the ADP across

628
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.279
<v Speaker 2>three sources on Fantasy pros he comes into twenty one

629
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.720
<v Speaker 2>and Devanta Smith is twenty eight. So like you could

630
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.960
<v Speaker 2>pass on AJ Brown to take Derrick Henry and then

631
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>take Davanta Smith, Or you could take AJ Brown and

632
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:57.599
<v Speaker 2>then around DeVonta Smith you could take breissee Hall, Kirrin Williams,

633
00:30:57.680 --> 00:30:58.119
<v Speaker 2>something like that.

634
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, give me that combo all day. Give me the

635
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.599
<v Speaker 3>AJ Brown and Kyrone combo all day. Uh?

636
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Malik? Where are you out on Malik? And recovery from

637
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:08.680
<v Speaker 2>the injury? What this offense looks like? Obviously we know

638
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 2>he could be a top You want to talk about

639
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 2>guys when they're out there who could be a top

640
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>five overall wide receiver. Malik Neighbors fits that territory. But

641
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>what is what's your vision of what his production and

642
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:20.759
<v Speaker 2>how many games he plays this year? And then I'll

643
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>talk about the projections.

644
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 3>I really hate the cleanup surgery, and I really hate

645
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.119
<v Speaker 3>that the giants also tried to pass it off as ah,

646
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 3>this is all normal, this is no big deal at all,

647
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:35.480
<v Speaker 3>and then we see deepok going, Yeah, guys, don't just

648
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:38.440
<v Speaker 3>get clean up procedures, right right, It's not like a

649
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.319
<v Speaker 3>normal thing that happens. So, yes, he's gonna miss a

650
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.319
<v Speaker 3>little bit more time. It pushes his window back. But

651
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.839
<v Speaker 3>I think for the most part, you know, even if

652
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.079
<v Speaker 3>Malik Neighbors has to miss time, I think it's one

653
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:52.880
<v Speaker 3>to two weeks, so still going to be pretty high

654
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:54.599
<v Speaker 3>on Malik coming back with Jackson Dark.

655
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this then, because this is the

656
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.720
<v Speaker 2>only thing I actually am going to ask behind I

657
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:01.799
<v Speaker 2>can't get it for this episode, but I'm gonna ask

658
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:05.759
<v Speaker 2>for behind the scenes. Here's Malik Neighbors projections. But I

659
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 2>want you to tell me because I don't have the

660
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 2>answer to this. But how many games do you think

661
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>they're projecting when they give you these numbers? But I

662
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 2>have to give you the numbers first, Okay, seventy five

663
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:21.839
<v Speaker 2>catches essentially a thousand yards, nine hundred and ninety eight

664
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 2>eight point eight touchdowns, so nine touchdowns, so call it

665
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:27.920
<v Speaker 2>one thousand and nine and seventy five catches. The seventy

666
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:29.799
<v Speaker 2>five catches is the thing that's throwing me.

667
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Off here, So fourteen and change.

668
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't I told you I don't have the answer.

669
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh you don't have the answer.

670
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I said I don't have the answer. I'm asking

671
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.160
<v Speaker 2>what do you think when you hear that projection? What

672
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.359
<v Speaker 2>do you think the projected numbers? I'm going to ask

673
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:44.000
<v Speaker 2>what they did here because you just said he misses

674
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 2>one to two games. So do you think seventy five

675
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.359
<v Speaker 2>catches is him playing fifteen weeks or fourteen weeks? Or

676
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.599
<v Speaker 2>do you think seventy five catches is him playing ten

677
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>games or twelve games?

678
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.240
<v Speaker 3>I think I think that's closer to fourteen or fifteen,

679
00:32:59.240 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 3>that would be my guest.

680
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.559
<v Speaker 2>So really, okay, I mean just but he's like a

681
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 2>target monster. I would think if he's only missing two games,

682
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.079
<v Speaker 2>he's probably still catching like eighty five to ninety yeah.

683
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:11.640
<v Speaker 3>One hundred and seventy targets. But that was also you're

684
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:13.559
<v Speaker 3>I guess you're right because I was in fifteen games

685
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:13.920
<v Speaker 3>this first.

686
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I'm san.

687
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:20.440
<v Speaker 3>It's also I think, yeah, I don't know, Yeah, that

688
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:22.559
<v Speaker 3>that might be missing a month.

689
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:25.160
<v Speaker 2>This is like twelve games. To me, this is like

690
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:28.000
<v Speaker 2>a twelve game marker. He plays based on this projections,

691
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.119
<v Speaker 2>which is still high. So if he were to beat that,

692
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:34.000
<v Speaker 2>does that look like if if he catches was it

693
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:38.279
<v Speaker 2>seventy five catches? If he catches eighty eight for twelve

694
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>hundred and ten touchdowns, that's a top ten you know

695
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:44.640
<v Speaker 2>what that is. That's George Pickens who has eighty seven

696
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>catches twelve to fifty one and nine touchdowns. That's more

697
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.079
<v Speaker 2>of his production. So just something to think about with

698
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 2>miliite neighbors projections. I would love to know what their

699
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 2>game total is, But seventy five catches to me, doesn't

700
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.400
<v Speaker 2>vibe to missing two games. That's like a month of games.

701
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.720
<v Speaker 3>That's four Yeah, I think you're right, but we.

702
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Don't know what the injury is gonna look like. So

703
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:05.480
<v Speaker 2>are you do you think we should be a little

704
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 2>bit more hesitant that it should be like we think

705
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.760
<v Speaker 2>he's only going to play twelve games this coming season,

706
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.519
<v Speaker 2>twelve to thirteen, or he only misses one or two games.

707
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:15.639
<v Speaker 3>I would say one or two. That would be my

708
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.480
<v Speaker 3>My initial thought process is like this isn't good for

709
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:20.760
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of the year. But I don't think that,

710
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:24.400
<v Speaker 3>like if this was anything more than a cleanup, like

711
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 3>a cleanup isn't normal. But if it was anything more

712
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:29.679
<v Speaker 3>than a cleanup, I think they would have said something

713
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:33.840
<v Speaker 3>at this point. They might not I'll say, I'm looking

714
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 3>at uh, I'm trying to see in a different projection thing.

715
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 3>If so that the games that I'm seeing for him

716
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:44.280
<v Speaker 3>on ESPN's just to look at a different one, because

717
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:48.079
<v Speaker 3>they have games. It does say fifteen and that is

718
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:50.719
<v Speaker 3>what was their projection one hundred and twenty targets, seventy

719
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:53.039
<v Speaker 3>six catches, one thousand and three yards and seven scores,

720
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:54.920
<v Speaker 3>So that's more representative of that.

721
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not sure I buy that. I mean, maybe

722
00:34:57.400 --> 00:34:59.760
<v Speaker 2>they just think Dart's gonna you're gonna have just like

723
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 2>a But what was the I'm sorry, what was the

724
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:03.880
<v Speaker 2>target to catch ratio? How many targets.

725
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 3>For the projection or for what he had in his

726
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 3>first for the projection it was one hundred and twenty

727
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:12.400
<v Speaker 3>targets and seventy six catches.

728
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:15.239
<v Speaker 2>That's a that's a pretty garbage catch rate.

729
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:17.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but so was his first year one hundred and

730
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:18.800
<v Speaker 3>seventy targets one hundred and nine.

731
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Who the hell was his quarter Who did the quarterback play?

732
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Russell Wilson.

733
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know. I think he might be.

734
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 3>I think Dart is way better. But is Dark gonna

735
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.960
<v Speaker 3>stay on the field because he lowers his head like

736
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, can't he learned it from Cam Scataboo.

737
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:35.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's fair.

738
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:38.639
<v Speaker 3>Actually that was Daniel Jones for the most part, DJ,

739
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:40.639
<v Speaker 3>Drew Locke, Tommy DeVito.

740
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Interesting Also, Giants GM said they expect Milk Neighbors to

741
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.119
<v Speaker 2>be ready for week one. The quote was, I think

742
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 2>I still think he'll be fine week one, so we'll

743
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 2>see he's training in the right direction.

744
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I think that. I means you might

745
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:56.440
<v Speaker 3>as well ask me. I think he's training in the

746
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:59.199
<v Speaker 3>right direction. Like, it doesn't matter what we think, you know,

747
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:03.239
<v Speaker 3>it is a setback. Regardless of what they say. He

748
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:04.920
<v Speaker 3>may be ready for week one, but this is a

749
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.639
<v Speaker 3>setback for him being ready for week one.

750
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there just might be some room for

751
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.159
<v Speaker 2>growth in there. I just want to throw that out there. Anything.

752
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:18.880
<v Speaker 2>George Pickens got really aggressive projections. I didn't look. I mean,

753
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 2>because we can move on but like Ttero McMillan is

754
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.719
<v Speaker 2>like right next to Milak neighbors projects. And that's the

755
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:24.360
<v Speaker 2>full season.

756
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:26.760
<v Speaker 3>The one that concerns me the most is Chris Olave.

757
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:31.440
<v Speaker 3>And I still like Olave. I still have him at twelve.

758
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:33.440
<v Speaker 3>I think he's going to be a good wide receiver

759
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 3>this year. But I'll say this, I think that Chris

760
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.519
<v Speaker 3>Olave relied a lot on volume.

761
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Right.

762
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.559
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't create after the catch. He didn't didn't have

763
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:44.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot of yak at all last year. He doesn't

764
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:48.039
<v Speaker 3>make tacklers miss at all. He catches and you know,

765
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.039
<v Speaker 3>either streaks of the end zone because he's it's a

766
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:53.559
<v Speaker 3>deep pass and he's not touched, or he falls down,

767
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 3>and so there's there's the yak is when he's wide open.

768
00:36:57.320 --> 00:36:59.000
<v Speaker 3>He's not making guys miss, so he's not doing it

769
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 3>on his own. He's fall dependent. And the Saints bring

770
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:04.599
<v Speaker 3>in Jordan Tyson in the first round. They're bringing Bryce Lance,

771
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.840
<v Speaker 3>and they bring in Oscar Delp they signed Travis at Chen, Like,

772
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 3>there are extra pieces to this offense this year that

773
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.159
<v Speaker 3>I think are going to pull away from Olave. So

774
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 3>I think his floor became bigger. Ceiling is still fine.

775
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean Tyson is starting with a hamstring injury and

776
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:24.280
<v Speaker 3>he is the main competition for target, so he may

777
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 3>miss time to start the year as well. But I

778
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.400
<v Speaker 3>think Chris o'lave just his floor is way bigger than

779
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:31.679
<v Speaker 3>I think people are giving credit for.

780
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.639
<v Speaker 2>And Olave. I don't know if I said it. His

781
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:39.079
<v Speaker 2>projections were higher than Nico ninety four catches, twelve hundred yards,

782
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:42.159
<v Speaker 2>eight touchdowns. That's pretty damn good. That's right next to

783
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:46.639
<v Speaker 2>AJ Brown. Next tier, you've got seventeen through twenty seven,

784
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:48.880
<v Speaker 2>so that is, you know, the back half of wide

785
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:51.159
<v Speaker 2>receiver twos into wide receiver threes. You've got Garrett Wilson

786
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:55.159
<v Speaker 2>coming in at seventeen, Zay Flowers at eighteen, Lad McConkie,

787
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:59.039
<v Speaker 2>Terry McLaurin, a Mecca Agbuca, Jalen Waddle, followed by Devonte

788
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Adams a twenty three, Luther Burden, Jamison Williams, Mike Evans,

789
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:06.039
<v Speaker 2>and Chris Christian Watson at twenty seven. Big group here,

790
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff, a lot of players to kind

791
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:12.280
<v Speaker 2>of hit. But one I know you've been Fantasy pros

792
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:14.800
<v Speaker 2>loves to pull the clip and put them out there

793
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 2>and people yell at you is Zay Flowers, and Zay

794
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Flowers has got some pretty high projections. I believe Flowers

795
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:24.039
<v Speaker 2>is projected as like the thirteenth or fourteenth highest. He's

796
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 2>actually the final of the two hundred plus fantasy points

797
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.639
<v Speaker 2>on just a basic half PPR, he's the last one

798
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.079
<v Speaker 2>projected of two hundred or more. So he's right next

799
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 2>to Nico eighty three catches, twelve hundred yards, seven touchdowns. Statistically,

800
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.320
<v Speaker 2>last year he had one hundred and eighteen targets, eighty

801
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 2>six catches, twelve hundred and five touchdowns, and had fourteen

802
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:47.119
<v Speaker 2>point three Fantasy points per game, which was higher than

803
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:50.159
<v Speaker 2>anybody on the whole list we talked about except DeVante Adams,

804
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 2>and DeVante Adams was obviously propped up by the absolutely

805
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:56.800
<v Speaker 2>ridiculous touchdown equity that he had. So, I know you're

806
00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:58.639
<v Speaker 2>a big Zay Flower guy. Do you want a wax

807
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.440
<v Speaker 2>on Zay Flowers, because he definitely I would think in

808
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 2>your mind you actually have him Matt at ECR, which

809
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 2>is funny, but based on you know what I've heard

810
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>you talk about, he might be kind of a value here.

811
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.239
<v Speaker 2>He is projected higher than where he's being ranked.

812
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, okay, So say seventh and wide receiver

813
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 3>points thirteenth. In points per games, he is third and

814
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:21.800
<v Speaker 3>teen yards only Jasn and Puka were higher. Seventh in

815
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:25.599
<v Speaker 3>yards per route run, ninth in yards per target second,

816
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:28.559
<v Speaker 3>mistackles fourth among wide receivers eighth and miss tackles fourth,

817
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:32.800
<v Speaker 3>force per reception tenth and YAK eighteenth and yak per

818
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.519
<v Speaker 3>catch eighthen yards per target over expected. There is a

819
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.360
<v Speaker 3>lot of room for growth for Zay Flowers, and this

820
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:43.639
<v Speaker 3>offense is going to change and get more vertical and

821
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:47.840
<v Speaker 3>pass more. I think, you know, everyone always complains about

822
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:51.679
<v Speaker 3>the lack of touchdowns. Lack of touchdowns, Yeah, okay, but

823
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.480
<v Speaker 3>the offense is changing. There's going to be more opportunities

824
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:57.960
<v Speaker 3>for everybody for touchdowns in my opinion, and he doesn't

825
00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:59.519
<v Speaker 3>have to live on that. He can live off of

826
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:02.239
<v Speaker 3>reception and specifically if you're in a PPR league, but

827
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:05.159
<v Speaker 3>still fine for half PPR. I think there's just they

828
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:09.360
<v Speaker 3>brought in guys like Sarrat and Jacoby Lane, but no

829
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:13.400
<v Speaker 3>one to really challenge him. I think bigger than adding

830
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.719
<v Speaker 3>Sarat is losing Isaiah likely, So I think there's just

831
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.440
<v Speaker 3>a lot of targets for him, and I think they're

832
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:21.280
<v Speaker 3>going to pass more, and I think this offense is

833
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:23.000
<v Speaker 3>going to be more efficient with it. And he's just

834
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:24.360
<v Speaker 3>great with the ball in his hand, so if he

835
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:26.800
<v Speaker 3>gets more volume, there's just way more on the board.

836
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:30.280
<v Speaker 3>And he are already finished seventh last year, so big.

837
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:33.480
<v Speaker 2>And he's really weird too because check this out. He

838
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:37.639
<v Speaker 2>is eighteenth ECR wide receiver, so that's the rankers. He's

839
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:42.519
<v Speaker 2>sixteenth on ADP, so that means rankers are undervalume versus

840
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:47.480
<v Speaker 2>where he's going in drafts currently, and he's fourteenth among projections,

841
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>so his projection is higher than both where he's ranked

842
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 2>and he's actually going in drafts, so just you know,

843
00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:55.800
<v Speaker 2>fourth round. He's going in the fourth round right now,

844
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>that you know, might be like a really good value

845
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.960
<v Speaker 2>based on kind of everything we just talked about picking

846
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:04.719
<v Speaker 2>back up on this tier seventeen through twenty seven. Mentioning

847
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.639
<v Speaker 2>the points per game, Luther Burden was the only one

848
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:10.000
<v Speaker 2>of this whole group that averaged less than ten points

849
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:13.119
<v Speaker 2>a half PPR per game, probably the very first half,

850
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:15.960
<v Speaker 2>second half type of thing. Your big points per game

851
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 2>guys were Garrett Wilson, Jay Flowers, Davante Adams and maybe

852
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:22.679
<v Speaker 2>you could throw Christian Watson in there everybody. Jamison Williams

853
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 2>is kind of like right on the fringe targets. Most

854
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:28.159
<v Speaker 2>targets actually went to a Mecca Agbuca who had one

855
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.679
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty seven, Who's now gonna be thrust into

856
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:33.760
<v Speaker 2>you know whatever you want to call it the number

857
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:35.440
<v Speaker 2>one role to Mike Evans roll whatever. They still got

858
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Chris Godwin. Of course, Zay Flowers was number two with

859
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:40.599
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and eighteen. Lad McConkie at one o six,

860
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:44.360
<v Speaker 2>DeVante Adams at one fourteen catches. We went to Zay

861
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Flowers by a country mile man eighty six. The next

862
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.320
<v Speaker 2>closest of this tier was Lad McConkie at sixty six.

863
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Zay Flowers and Jamison william the only players to go

864
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.199
<v Speaker 2>over one thousand yards. DeVante Adams was the only double

865
00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>digit touchdown guy of the group. So that gives you

866
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:01.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of a little baseline. Let's talk about a mechag

867
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Buka real quick. Do you think it's fair that people

868
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 2>should put higher expectations on a Mecca egg Buka because

869
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Mike Evans is gone, he gets to I mean there,

870
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 2>they've got a robust wide receiver corps like They're never

871
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:16.320
<v Speaker 2>short of that. They've got talented guys. But should people

872
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:20.519
<v Speaker 2>just put a Mecca egg Buka into Mike Evans' role

873
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.800
<v Speaker 2>knowing Chris Godwin can still eat because of the talk of

874
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the town right now, I think people freak out about

875
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Chris Godwin. But is it fair to do that or

876
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:29.400
<v Speaker 2>do you think the expectations are going to get a

877
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:31.559
<v Speaker 2>little high because a Mecca did disappear in that offense

878
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:33.079
<v Speaker 2>a little bit on the back half of last year.

879
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:35.000
<v Speaker 3>You're right, he did disappear, But I think there are

880
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 3>two things going on there. I think number one was

881
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:40.760
<v Speaker 3>probably a little bit of the rookie wall right, and

882
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:45.800
<v Speaker 3>number two is he you know, Baker Mayfield was really

883
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 3>hurt at the end, so he was not the same

884
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:50.800
<v Speaker 3>guy in the second half. So I think that affected

885
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.320
<v Speaker 3>the entire offense, not just in Mecca. So but do

886
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 3>I think there should be higher expectations, one hundred percent.

887
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:04.480
<v Speaker 3>But I also so think that he's not Mike Evans.

888
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:06.960
<v Speaker 3>He's not gonna score twelve touchdowns. I don't think you

889
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:10.440
<v Speaker 3>should expect that from him. Wide receiver won for this

890
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:14.079
<v Speaker 3>team absolutely, and I think the ceiling is very high

891
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.719
<v Speaker 3>for a Meccagbuka because we've seen, you know, Chris Godwin

892
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:20.079
<v Speaker 3>get hurt, Jay McMillan has missed a bunch of time,

893
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 3>and after that it does get kind of thin. It

894
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.119
<v Speaker 3>would be Ted Johnson, who was nice when he had

895
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:28.639
<v Speaker 3>to play last year, and then rookie in Ted Teddy Hurst.

896
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:32.119
<v Speaker 3>So but they do have two really nice pass catching

897
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:35.199
<v Speaker 3>backs as well, and Bucky and Kenneth Gainwell. So I

898
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 3>think I think a Mecca is gonna be fine here.

899
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:39.480
<v Speaker 3>I think you should expect him to be a wide

900
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.519
<v Speaker 3>receiver too, But to expect him to be Mike Evans,

901
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.079
<v Speaker 3>who is a no doubt Hall of Famer, is a

902
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:45.559
<v Speaker 3>bit much.

903
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this then, because he comes in

904
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:53.960
<v Speaker 2>at wide receiver twenty one on ECR, you have two

905
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:56.599
<v Speaker 2>guys that you have to make an argument that are

906
00:43:56.639 --> 00:44:00.719
<v Speaker 2>gonna bounce back after poor years. You have both Ladd

907
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:03.960
<v Speaker 2>McConkie and Jalen Waddle ahead of a Mecca Buka in

908
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:08.199
<v Speaker 2>your personal ranks. Ladd is higher on consensus like in general,

909
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:11.960
<v Speaker 2>but I guess not so much about a Mecca. Do

910
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:14.760
<v Speaker 2>you really believe that Ladd and Jalen Wattle are both

911
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.800
<v Speaker 2>going to make bounce backs Ladds is new offensive coordinator,

912
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:20.800
<v Speaker 2>and obviously Jaylen Wattle with a new team.

913
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I think Ladd is going to work

914
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 3>really well in this system, and I think he's still

915
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:31.199
<v Speaker 3>the most talented among the Chargers wide receivers. I no

916
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:32.960
<v Speaker 3>QJ is getting a lot of love, and I know

917
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:36.480
<v Speaker 3>Mike McDaniels has talked a lot about how good QJ

918
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.159
<v Speaker 3>is going to be and how he needs to rip

919
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:40.960
<v Speaker 3>the top off the league and everybody. But he talks

920
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.599
<v Speaker 3>about that to everybody. You know, he said Brendan Thompson

921
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:45.320
<v Speaker 3>is going to be the next Tyreek Hill. So let's

922
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:48.199
<v Speaker 3>not not take what Mike McDaniel says with that much.

923
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, you got to take everything he says with

924
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:54.239
<v Speaker 3>a grain of salt. So Jaalen Wattle going from the

925
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:57.719
<v Speaker 3>mess of Miami's offense in Tua to bo nicks In

926
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:01.800
<v Speaker 3>being the number one for this Den offense is I

927
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.559
<v Speaker 3>think just a great step. So yeah, I'm going to

928
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.800
<v Speaker 3>be more in on Wattle and Ladd. I think Ladd

929
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 3>is probably riskier because I think the floor drops out

930
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:13.199
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more for him. But we saw from

931
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:16.440
<v Speaker 3>his rookie season that ceiling is really high, So I'm

932
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:18.920
<v Speaker 3>willing to take those guys over in Meca right now.

933
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Do you think at all, because I know you know

934
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:26.679
<v Speaker 2>there's conflicting stuff in here. I'm with Pat, but I'm

935
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:30.599
<v Speaker 2>also a homer about this. Pat and I both agree

936
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.360
<v Speaker 2>that Mike Evans seems kind of criminally underrated here, and

937
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.559
<v Speaker 2>I think it is driven heavily because you got to

938
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:42.159
<v Speaker 2>believe this. It is heavily driven by the fact that

939
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 2>Mike Evans could lead the league in touchdowns, So you

940
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.800
<v Speaker 2>have to be a Mike Evan said three touchdowns last year.

941
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:50.320
<v Speaker 2>He's going to a new San Francisco offense, so I

942
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:52.239
<v Speaker 2>think you've got to live in a world where you

943
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:56.679
<v Speaker 2>think that's going to have like a heavy increase. And again,

944
00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I think projections really struggle when a player has a

945
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.760
<v Speaker 2>bad touchdown on season in being able to do that.

946
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Because Mike Evans is projected for less touchdowns than DJ Moore,

947
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:10.079
<v Speaker 2>less touchdowns than Christian Watson, I have a hard time

948
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 2>believing Mike Evans is gonna have less than ten touchdowns.

949
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I think he looks like one of the better, buy

950
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:17.159
<v Speaker 2>more criminally underrated players because the San Francisco offense can

951
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:21.559
<v Speaker 2>move through not having to worry about too much going

952
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:24.280
<v Speaker 2>to Christian McCaffrey once Kittle is back, and then he's

953
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:26.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna become a big red zone option. But like party's

954
00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:28.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna find him the ball. I look at him coming

955
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:31.000
<v Speaker 2>in at twenty six as a wide receiver three, and

956
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, not like, I think I think he

957
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.199
<v Speaker 2>should be much higher. Maybe this is just a tier conversation,

958
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.320
<v Speaker 2>but you actually physically have him ranked lower, So maybe

959
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:40.360
<v Speaker 2>you just do not believe that. But what is your take?

960
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:44.920
<v Speaker 2>The projections again on Mike Evans are sixty three catches

961
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:48.239
<v Speaker 2>essentially nine hundred yards and six and a half touchdowns.

962
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:51.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think those are right, because how many

963
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:53.840
<v Speaker 3>games is he gonna play? I think that's the big

964
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 3>question because he's had injuries the last two years, last

965
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.239
<v Speaker 3>year obviously being way worse than the year before four.

966
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:03.519
<v Speaker 3>But you know, it seems like these soft tissue issues

967
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:07.599
<v Speaker 3>keep happening with Mike Evans. So I mine is more

968
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.360
<v Speaker 3>of a concern about how I think you just bake

969
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:12.400
<v Speaker 3>him in for four miss games and I hope it's

970
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.440
<v Speaker 3>not more than that at this point in his career. So,

971
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:17.760
<v Speaker 3>and he's going to a new offense with a new quarterback.

972
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:21.559
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes there's adjustment, sometimes there's not, So I'll admit that

973
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:25.079
<v Speaker 3>there's but I think that's what makes wide receiver deep.

974
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot of ceiling with a lot

975
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:30.880
<v Speaker 3>of these players, but the further down you get, the

976
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:33.360
<v Speaker 3>more floor we see with them as well. And I

977
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:35.280
<v Speaker 3>just think there's a lot of floor from Mike Evans

978
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:38.480
<v Speaker 3>with his you know, wonky hamstring at this point in

979
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:39.000
<v Speaker 3>his career.

980
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, picking up some of the projections that I kind

981
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:45.079
<v Speaker 2>of jumped by, just to make sure you guys have

982
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:48.679
<v Speaker 2>someone who's some guys we talked about. Okay, So of

983
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 2>the two bounce back wide receivers, lad McConkie is projected

984
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:55.760
<v Speaker 2>higher than Jalen Wattle. Laddi McConkie at seventy seven catches

985
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:57.719
<v Speaker 2>only nine hundred and eighty seven yard, six and a

986
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:03.199
<v Speaker 2>half touchdowns. Wattle seventy five catches two with six touchdowns.

987
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 2>And when we compare him against Mechagua Mecha Buca is

988
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:13.559
<v Speaker 2>sixty nine catches, almost eleven hundred yards and almost eight touchdowns.

989
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.440
<v Speaker 2>So just interesting. Both of the your bounce back guys

990
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:20.519
<v Speaker 2>projected quite a bit lower and a Mecca projected much higher.

991
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:24.519
<v Speaker 2>In that range Luther Burton. Do you think Luther Burden

992
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.880
<v Speaker 2>should be the top Chicago wide receiver in projections and drafts.

993
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I know there's some people that are trying to push

994
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Roma Dunsday. You think Burden belongs in this territory?

995
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I do I have. I have Burden at

996
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:42.559
<v Speaker 3>twenty I have Rome at twenty five. I think the

997
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:47.159
<v Speaker 3>ceiling is higher for Luther. There's probably a little bit

998
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:52.159
<v Speaker 3>of Pat Fitzmorris bias in me because Pat is the

999
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:55.519
<v Speaker 3>biggest defender of Luther Burden, I think maybe on the planet.

1000
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:59.719
<v Speaker 3>But I know Luther Burden was a massive, massive prospect

1001
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:04.519
<v Speaker 3>in college. He was great at Missouri except for when

1002
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:06.960
<v Speaker 3>he was hurt. And there's a lot of upside here,

1003
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:10.199
<v Speaker 3>specifically with DJ Moore going by the wayside. So yeah,

1004
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:14.559
<v Speaker 3>I think I think Rome probably has a higher floor

1005
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:18.039
<v Speaker 3>than Luther Burton, but Luther burn definitely has the higher ceiling,

1006
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:19.440
<v Speaker 3>and for the most part, I want ceiling.

1007
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Who of this tier seventeenth through twenty seven again, it's

1008
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:28.639
<v Speaker 2>Garrett Wilson, Flowers, mconkey, McLaurin, at Mecca, Waddell, Adams, Burden, Williams,

1009
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Evans Watson. Who do you think has the highest ceiling

1010
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:33.800
<v Speaker 2>of all these wide receivers.

1011
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:39.519
<v Speaker 3>The highest ceiling of this group is probably DeVante again

1012
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:43.440
<v Speaker 3>because Stafford and all the touchdown opportunity for him.

1013
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, who do you think is the biggest chance to

1014
00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:49.880
<v Speaker 2>bust of this group?

1015
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Definitely Christian Watson. Christian Watson has had injury issues throughout

1016
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:58.679
<v Speaker 3>his career. Even last year he was great, played ten games,

1017
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:02.800
<v Speaker 3>So Christian Watson is one that makes me the most nervous.

1018
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:05.039
<v Speaker 2>And then who are the two wide receivers you're most

1019
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.000
<v Speaker 2>likely to draft from this range?

1020
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Zay? I think, and probably, I mean in any league

1021
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm not with you, I'm probably still gonna roster Mike Evans,

1022
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:20.280
<v Speaker 3>So probably Zay. And I'll say I'll say Wattle based

1023
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:21.280
<v Speaker 3>on where I have him ranked.

1024
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think based on your rank of Evans, you're

1025
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:26.599
<v Speaker 2>going to struggle with me or not without me, because

1026
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:29.199
<v Speaker 2>you're lower than consensus. And I think you're just gonna

1027
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:30.840
<v Speaker 2>have part of a league that's in the camp that

1028
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:34.159
<v Speaker 2>projections and everything are just undercutting. And then you're gonna

1029
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:34.480
<v Speaker 2>have part.

1030
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:37.199
<v Speaker 3>Of the league like ADP because I bet you his

1031
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:39.639
<v Speaker 3>ADP is lower than his rank because people look at

1032
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Mike Evans and they go, eh, he's old. I'm telling

1033
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.000
<v Speaker 3>you in rooms, I bet I bet you it's lower.

1034
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's look, I'm gonna say what was I clicked

1035
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:49.760
<v Speaker 2>on running back? I want to say higher, But you

1036
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:52.000
<v Speaker 2>know what, you could be right it is. I know

1037
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I was right twenty four. He's a twenty fourth, twenty

1038
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:57.719
<v Speaker 2>fourth wide receiver, twenty six on this list, and you

1039
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.639
<v Speaker 2>have him at like twenty eight. So yeah, into wide

1040
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:02.599
<v Speaker 2>receiver too. So that's why I'm saying, like, I think

1041
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:05.280
<v Speaker 2>he's above Mike Adams or DeVante Adams orr. I was

1042
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:07.880
<v Speaker 2>looking at Mike Evans name Devant. He's one spot above

1043
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:11.800
<v Speaker 2>DeVante Adams in ADP right now, because I think, I

1044
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:13.519
<v Speaker 2>just think you're gonna be split. You're gonna have your

1045
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:15.199
<v Speaker 2>group that's like, oh no, he's kind of injured and

1046
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:16.480
<v Speaker 2>dah da da, and then you're gonna have this group

1047
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:19.760
<v Speaker 2>that's like we're completely under selling. Like Kittle might miss time,

1048
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:21.840
<v Speaker 2>the forty nine ers score a whole bunch, like Mike

1049
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Evans is going to be party's most absolute favorite red

1050
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:26.199
<v Speaker 2>zone threat.

1051
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:28.320
<v Speaker 3>The forty nine ers and an injury prone player. What's

1052
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:29.280
<v Speaker 3>the worst that could happen?

1053
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:32.039
<v Speaker 2>It's a Spider Man meme. But it's just all, you know,

1054
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:34.800
<v Speaker 2>fifty players staring at each other in a hospital. Hundred

1055
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:38.880
<v Speaker 2>percent all right. The next tier, this is twenty eight

1056
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:41.159
<v Speaker 2>through forty, So this is the back half of wide

1057
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:47.079
<v Speaker 2>receiver threes into flexi wide receiver fours, starting with Roma

1058
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Dunes at twenty eight. DJ Moore comes in at twenty nine,

1059
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Carnel Tate at thirty so we get some murky action.

1060
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.519
<v Speaker 2>Alec Pierce at thirty one, Marvin Harrison at thirty two,

1061
00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:58.800
<v Speaker 2>DK Metcalf, Courtland Sutton, Brian Thomas, Chris Godwin. I stopped

1062
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:01.199
<v Speaker 2>there for a second. That is the end of the

1063
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:03.800
<v Speaker 2>twelve team. Wide Receiver three is at thirty six. There

1064
00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:06.199
<v Speaker 2>are four more players in this tier. It is Michael Wilson,

1065
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Tyson, Parker Washington, and Jacoby Myers. Just a few

1066
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:13.199
<v Speaker 2>little noty things because it's tough to do all the

1067
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:16.519
<v Speaker 2>stats here the projected points per game. There are four

1068
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:20.119
<v Speaker 2>players that had projected twelve or more points per game.

1069
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:23.000
<v Speaker 2>That was Roma Dune day, Alec Pierce, DK metcalf In,

1070
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Courtland Sutton. All kind of messy. There is no messy reasons,

1071
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:29.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, like Alec Pierce with you know, he gets time,

1072
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:32.159
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't get time roma dunes like. It's all just

1073
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:34.400
<v Speaker 2>very messy in those points per game hard to project.

1074
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:38.519
<v Speaker 2>The highest target share went to Michael Wilson with one

1075
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty six and Courtland Sutton at one hundred

1076
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:44.400
<v Speaker 2>and twenty four. Catch Wise, it's really gross. Michael Wilson

1077
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:47.039
<v Speaker 2>actually had the most catches of anybody here seventy eight catches,

1078
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:50.440
<v Speaker 2>followed by Sutton again at seventy four. I'm sorry, Jacoby

1079
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Myers had seventy five, so he was right under Michael Wilson.

1080
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Only three players had one thousand yards. That was Alec Pierce,

1081
00:52:56.039 --> 00:53:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Cortland Sutton and Michael Wilson again. And touchdowns seven from Sutton,

1082
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:04.559
<v Speaker 2>seven from Williams and then just a kind of bunch

1083
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:06.880
<v Speaker 2>of low totals that are in there. So there's a

1084
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:08.960
<v Speaker 2>whole lot of stuff to get to. I want to

1085
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:13.800
<v Speaker 2>poke you on this player, Alec Pierce. Alec Pierce jumpson

1086
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:16.280
<v Speaker 2>to you know, be like a number one from the

1087
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:19.440
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver standpoint. With the with Michael Pittman going to Pittsburgh,

1088
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:23.199
<v Speaker 2>he's got some pretty interesting projections he has projected on

1089
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:27.039
<v Speaker 2>the consensus projections Bogs, higher than Lad McConkie, higher than

1090
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Courtland Sutton, higher than your boy Jalen Waddle or Luther Burden.

1091
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Alec Pierce projected for sixty three catches over one thousand yards,

1092
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:40.480
<v Speaker 2>closer to eleven hundred and seven touchdowns, right under kind

1093
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:44.800
<v Speaker 2>of a doonsay in Jamison Williams and actually within four

1094
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:47.599
<v Speaker 2>points of Terry McLaurin and half PPR. Do you think

1095
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:50.360
<v Speaker 2>that is hyper aggressive or do you think people might

1096
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:52.239
<v Speaker 2>be sleeping a little bit on Alec Pierce When he

1097
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:54.480
<v Speaker 2>comes in at thirty one at wide receiver.

1098
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:58.320
<v Speaker 3>He was going into the season completely healthy with no issues.

1099
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:02.400
<v Speaker 3>I would probably say that this is fine, no issue,

1100
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:05.079
<v Speaker 3>But right now he has some ankle issue, wasn't ready

1101
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.719
<v Speaker 3>to go. In Oda's it said he's probably not going

1102
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:09.960
<v Speaker 3>to be ready for the very start of training camp.

1103
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.519
<v Speaker 3>So week one I think is in question for Alec

1104
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:15.599
<v Speaker 3>Pierce right now. So I did in my most recent

1105
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.960
<v Speaker 3>update lower Alec Pearson my ranking. So I think there

1106
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:21.719
<v Speaker 3>are also issues with who is going to be his

1107
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.400
<v Speaker 3>quarterback to start the season. I were thinking it's Daniel

1108
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.679
<v Speaker 3>Jones coming off the Achille surgery, but I'm not one

1109
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.880
<v Speaker 3>hundred percent sure so maybe right Riley Leonard for a

1110
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:36.199
<v Speaker 3>handful of games. So I'm not there with Alec Pearce.

1111
00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:39.239
<v Speaker 3>I e great year last year, and Michael Pittman's gone,

1112
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:42.559
<v Speaker 3>so there should be a lot of opportunity for Alec Pearce,

1113
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:43.840
<v Speaker 3>but I'm just not quite there.

1114
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:46.880
<v Speaker 2>To your point, ADP is actually with you when I

1115
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:51.400
<v Speaker 2>say ECRs thirty one, Yes, ADP is actually thirty five.

1116
00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:54.159
<v Speaker 2>So almost pushed him out. So you've got like people

1117
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:57.440
<v Speaker 2>liking him projections are the highest rankers kind of want

1118
00:54:57.440 --> 00:54:59.719
<v Speaker 2>to like him, but people can't come to terms of

1119
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:01.639
<v Speaker 2>draft him right now because of the question marks that

1120
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:05.840
<v Speaker 2>ADP probably drives much higher, probably into the twenties.

1121
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:09.920
<v Speaker 3>If I was impressed by Alec Pierce last year, man

1122
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:13.000
<v Speaker 3>like and and really my thing was he did it

1123
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:17.000
<v Speaker 3>without Daniel Jones too, he did it with when Philip Rivers.

1124
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:20.039
<v Speaker 3>He had some good games last season. So I do

1125
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:22.679
<v Speaker 3>like Alec Pierce a lot. I just think he might

1126
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:27.360
<v Speaker 3>get off to a slow start quarterback issues so interesting.

1127
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Can I point out to get a lot of number

1128
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:32.639
<v Speaker 3>ones too now, So just pointing out I think you

1129
00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:35.880
<v Speaker 3>and I had a little debate last year of Alec

1130
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Pierce versus Marvin Harrison and Alec Pierce one hundred and

1131
00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:44.519
<v Speaker 3>eighty three points Marvin Harrison one hundred and twenty seven points.

1132
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:46.159
<v Speaker 3>There definitely was a bet in there. I do not

1133
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:50.000
<v Speaker 3>remember what it was, but I was definitely right about that.

1134
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:54.199
<v Speaker 3>Scored more touchdowns, He scored way more fantasy points he had.

1135
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:58.400
<v Speaker 3>We just had more everything than Marvin. But it actually

1136
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:01.400
<v Speaker 3>this almost looks comical. It is weird seeing he scored

1137
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:04.920
<v Speaker 3>almost sixty more points and he only had six more receptions,

1138
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:08.519
<v Speaker 3>but he had four hundred more yards receiving two touchdowns,

1139
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:11.280
<v Speaker 3>and Marv just kind of fell apart just that. I

1140
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:14.480
<v Speaker 3>just literally just remembered that we had that. Marvin Kyler

1141
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:18.559
<v Speaker 3>not buddies, right, They did not get along at all.

1142
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:20.280
<v Speaker 2>So if people got on my case, I think about

1143
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:22.000
<v Speaker 2>that too, me saying Alec Perce is just a better

1144
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:23.559
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver than Marvin, and.

1145
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:27.480
<v Speaker 3>It well do I crapped on Marvin in the Dynasty

1146
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Show after complimenting him, I said, listen, I think Marvin

1147
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:34.639
<v Speaker 3>Harrison is going to have a much better year this year, right,

1148
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:37.760
<v Speaker 3>But if he doesn't have a good year in twenty

1149
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:41.360
<v Speaker 3>twenty six, we're done. I'm not making any more excuses

1150
00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:44.599
<v Speaker 3>we can't say, oh, well, when Arch comes in now,

1151
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Marvin Harrison is going to be way better, or when

1152
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.079
<v Speaker 3>Julian sand whatever quarterback they get next year comes in

1153
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:52.119
<v Speaker 3>is going to be this is going to be much better.

1154
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:55.400
<v Speaker 3>No way, I'm done with it. If you can't succeed

1155
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:00.039
<v Speaker 3>with Brissette or Kyler, you're probably just not that.

1156
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me ask you these two questions. I was

1157
00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:05.559
<v Speaker 2>actually going to pair these took what people against each other,

1158
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:07.480
<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna pair them against their own grouping because

1159
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:10.679
<v Speaker 2>their guys are here. Do you think Marvin Harrison should

1160
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:13.400
<v Speaker 2>be ranked above Michael Wilson? And I kind of know this.

1161
00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:16.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually shocked at your rank of Michael Wilson. Michael

1162
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Wilson was one hundred percent the number one guy with

1163
00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Jacoby Brissett. So I'm a little confused by you have

1164
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:23.800
<v Speaker 2>a twenty spot rank against I guess I need not

1165
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:25.800
<v Speaker 2>ask that question. Why why do you have such a

1166
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:29.400
<v Speaker 2>big gap between them when Michael Wilson outperformed Marvin Harrison

1167
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:30.079
<v Speaker 2>across the board.

1168
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:33.639
<v Speaker 3>Because I don't think it's going to happen again, and

1169
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:36.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that they're going to pass at the

1170
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:39.519
<v Speaker 3>crazy volume that they did. Last season, they threw the

1171
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:42.159
<v Speaker 3>ball more than any time anyone in the NFL, six

1172
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:45.159
<v Speaker 3>hundred and forty nine times. They threw nine more times

1173
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:48.800
<v Speaker 3>in the Bengals more times than the Broncos and the Rams,

1174
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:51.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, So there is not going to be that

1175
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:54.079
<v Speaker 3>many pass attempts. So when the pass attempts go down,

1176
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Trey McBride is number one. Trey McBride is still number one.

1177
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:01.519
<v Speaker 3>I think they're trying to push Marvin Harrison into number two, right,

1178
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:05.960
<v Speaker 3>So I think Jeremiah Love is going to be third,

1179
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:09.639
<v Speaker 3>and that now leaves Michael Wilson down at fourth in

1180
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:12.960
<v Speaker 3>this pecking order, and Kendrick Horn is not a nothing.

1181
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:17.239
<v Speaker 3>So I think there's just going to be way less

1182
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:21.159
<v Speaker 3>volume overall for every Cardinal, but specifically for Michael Wilson.

1183
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let me do this. I'm trying to do

1184
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:27.800
<v Speaker 2>this math real quick, and there's definitely somewhere would have

1185
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:32.000
<v Speaker 2>easily done it. So last year, not because I don't

1186
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:33.559
<v Speaker 2>want to do the targets, because that's not fair, because

1187
00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:38.519
<v Speaker 2>Michael Wilson absolutely out targeted on a per game basis.

1188
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Marvin Harrison averaged six targets per game to seven point

1189
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.519
<v Speaker 2>four for Michael Wilson per game with Jacoby Brissett, there

1190
00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:49.639
<v Speaker 2>a decent amount that doesn't do anything for that. You

1191
00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:52.239
<v Speaker 2>think there should be twenty spot differential even when Michael

1192
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Michael Wilson was averaging on a game basis Okay, yes, okay,

1193
00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:01.800
<v Speaker 2>no more than you asked me the question three times. Yeah, well,

1194
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:04.119
<v Speaker 2>I just okay, that's fine, It's totally fine. You're Marvin

1195
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Harrison guy. It's just like, this is one of those

1196
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:10.119
<v Speaker 2>things where you see a guy I understand underutilized, and

1197
00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Marvin Harrison is super talented, but it's like, why does

1198
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:14.199
<v Speaker 2>like you have Michael Wilson not.

1199
00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Even it's going to be a different offense, you didn't.

1200
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:19.480
<v Speaker 3>It's the same thing with Parker Washington, by the way,

1201
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:21.599
<v Speaker 3>which I'm low on MS. I'll just get that out too. Well,

1202
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.079
<v Speaker 3>that's actually what I wanted to go to you about.

1203
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:26.159
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do. Do you buy back in on

1204
00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Brian Thomas When you see Parker Washington and Jacobe Myers

1205
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:32.000
<v Speaker 2>they're all in the same tier, That to me is

1206
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:34.519
<v Speaker 2>it becomes lazy. All three of them can't do that.

1207
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:36.960
<v Speaker 2>So I think you either have to be like Brian

1208
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Thomas is a bounce back or Parker Washington is the guy,

1209
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:42.280
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people are making Parker Washington the guy.

1210
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess unless they all just eat the hell into

1211
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:46.400
<v Speaker 2>each other. But it looks like you kind of have

1212
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:48.039
<v Speaker 2>a stance on the Jacksonville situation.

1213
00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:50.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and shout out to Pat fitz Morris for pointing

1214
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:53.760
<v Speaker 3>this out right. Like, we sat and watched the Jaguars

1215
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:58.039
<v Speaker 3>draft Nate Porkature with their first pick, and everyone was like,

1216
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:00.880
<v Speaker 3>what the hell is happening? A blocking tight end? You

1217
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.159
<v Speaker 3>already have Brenton Strange. And then they went and got

1218
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Tanner kozi All in the fifth who's a massive six

1219
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:10.840
<v Speaker 3>foot seven monster of a tight end from Houston. Why

1220
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:12.960
<v Speaker 3>are they doing this? Because it's a copycat league and

1221
01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:17.039
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna run thirteen personnel. And when you run thirteen personnel,

1222
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:18.840
<v Speaker 3>which is what the Rams did and had a lot

1223
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:21.639
<v Speaker 3>of success with it last year, they're copying Sean McVay

1224
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:24.519
<v Speaker 3>and the Rams. You get one wide receiver in thirteen,

1225
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:27.280
<v Speaker 3>and that wide receiver is going to be Brian Thomas.

1226
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:30.880
<v Speaker 3>So Parker Washington's going to be off the field way more.

1227
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:34.840
<v Speaker 3>When Jacoby Myers came in and they extended him, he

1228
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:39.920
<v Speaker 3>had more targets and receptions than Parker Washington after Jacoby

1229
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Myers came over. I think he's still a better wide receiver,

1230
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:45.199
<v Speaker 3>and I think I like Parker Washington. I think what

1231
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:49.239
<v Speaker 3>made Parker Washington as success last season is gone for

1232
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:51.679
<v Speaker 3>this year. I don't think he's gonna be on the

1233
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:54.800
<v Speaker 3>field nearly as much. So my pick for the Jaguars

1234
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:57.239
<v Speaker 3>as ugly it's Brian Thomas, but it's honestly kind of

1235
01:00:57.239 --> 01:00:59.920
<v Speaker 3>nobody for the Jaguars. I don't think I'm gonna like

1236
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:02.039
<v Speaker 3>anyone but Trevor Lawrence in that offense this year.

1237
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Picking up some projections on some of those players that

1238
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:08.760
<v Speaker 2>we talked about, I just lost it.

1239
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:09.840
<v Speaker 3>It looks like.

1240
01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:15.079
<v Speaker 2>A yeah, Parker Washington is projected for more points than

1241
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Brian Thomas this year, sixty two catches, eight eighty one

1242
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:21.880
<v Speaker 2>and six touchdowns to Brian Thomas's fifty five, eight forty

1243
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:24.079
<v Speaker 2>eight and five and a half touchdowns. So more catches,

1244
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:28.480
<v Speaker 2>more yards, and more touchdowns for Parker Washington. That's really interesting.

1245
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 2>But more into what you were talking about are on

1246
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:34.320
<v Speaker 2>your side is the Marvin Harrison versus Michael Wilson thing.

1247
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Marvin Harrison is projected closer to Luther Burden sixty nine

1248
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:41.679
<v Speaker 2>catches nine to fifty and six touchdowns to Michael Wilson

1249
01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:45.360
<v Speaker 2>sixty six catches eight hundred and are on five touchdowns.

1250
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:48.239
<v Speaker 3>And another thing about Michael Wilson that people don't realize

1251
01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:51.159
<v Speaker 3>it because it hasn't happened in the NFL, and I

1252
01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:54.199
<v Speaker 3>hope it's over with. But the dude was incredibly injured

1253
01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:56.800
<v Speaker 3>in college. That's why he was. He was better than

1254
01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:59.119
<v Speaker 3>where he went, which is why his success in the

1255
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:01.599
<v Speaker 3>NFL isn't that surprising. Is a very good wide receiver,

1256
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:04.599
<v Speaker 3>but it's very hurt in college. And I'm a little

1257
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:06.280
<v Speaker 3>bit afraid of those things popping back up.

1258
01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Only other two things are going to throw out. The

1259
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:10.280
<v Speaker 2>two rookie wide receivers. You have them next to each other,

1260
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:13.159
<v Speaker 2>and you are quite a bit higher projections. Sixty seven

1261
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:15.920
<v Speaker 2>catches nine to twenty and four touchdowns for Carnell Tait,

1262
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:18.760
<v Speaker 2>sixty four catches run nine hundred yards and four and

1263
01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:22.239
<v Speaker 2>a half touchdowns for Jordan Tyson. You are ranked a

1264
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:25.159
<v Speaker 2>bit higher. You have them as wide receiver threes. Tyson

1265
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:26.280
<v Speaker 2>comes in as a wide receiver.

1266
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:26.519
<v Speaker 3>Four.

1267
01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Tate. You actually have at consensus I didn't realize, but

1268
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:31.679
<v Speaker 2>you're both You're in on both of those guys, so

1269
01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:34.199
<v Speaker 2>maybe there's more of a conversation around Tyson for a second.

1270
01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Just quick thoughts on the two rookie wide receivers.

1271
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:39.079
<v Speaker 3>I think Carnel Tait is immediately your wide receiver one

1272
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:41.480
<v Speaker 3>for the Titans. What does that mean with cam Ward?

1273
01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:44.679
<v Speaker 3>We're not one hundred percent sure, right, so, but I

1274
01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:47.559
<v Speaker 3>love the additions of Carnell Tate and Wandell Robinson. I

1275
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:51.239
<v Speaker 3>think it makes this offense way way better. And I

1276
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:54.639
<v Speaker 3>really Tate. Tate's upside is going to come from touchdowns

1277
01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:58.639
<v Speaker 3>and incredible plays, So a lot of chrys Olave like

1278
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:02.960
<v Speaker 3>upside for our boy Tait and Tyson. Tyson is gonna

1279
01:03:03.679 --> 01:03:06.400
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna depend on what it is happening with his hamstring,

1280
01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:10.079
<v Speaker 3>because the more I see of this hamstring, the less

1281
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:12.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be in. I'm gonna probably start lowering

1282
01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:14.920
<v Speaker 3>him pretty soon. If he's not ready to go for

1283
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:18.239
<v Speaker 3>training camp, then I'm I'm probably gonna be out on Tyson.

1284
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:20.880
<v Speaker 3>But there's a lot of talent here and finally a

1285
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:23.440
<v Speaker 3>number two target. I think they're just trying to surround

1286
01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:26.639
<v Speaker 3>Shook with so much talent, there's no excuses, and if

1287
01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:29.679
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't work then it's easy to bring a quarterback

1288
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:32.639
<v Speaker 3>in and plug plug them in when you surround them

1289
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:36.039
<v Speaker 3>with awesome weapons. So I think Tyson is very, very

1290
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:38.679
<v Speaker 3>good and has a ton of upside in this tier.

1291
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:40.800
<v Speaker 2>What wide receiver do you think has the most upside?

1292
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:42.440
<v Speaker 2>You can do two if you want as well.

1293
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:45.719
<v Speaker 3>The most upside. I mean, I think for what we've seen,

1294
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.480
<v Speaker 3>it's probably still it's probably still Brian Thomas, right, I

1295
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:53.960
<v Speaker 3>have him at thirty seven, so I'm just not his

1296
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:57.280
<v Speaker 3>ECRs thirty five. I probably won't roster any Jacksonville guys,

1297
01:03:57.280 --> 01:03:59.840
<v Speaker 3>but in terms of upside, it is still him. And

1298
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:01.280
<v Speaker 3>then what was the other one for?

1299
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:03.039
<v Speaker 2>It was just if you wanted to do too? No,

1300
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:05.039
<v Speaker 2>you want to do too, that's fine, but if you

1301
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:07.159
<v Speaker 2>don't seem like you're super into the high guys of this.

1302
01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:11.199
<v Speaker 3>So Rama Doonsay man like Rama Donsay, I think is getting.

1303
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:13.400
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of Luther burdon love. There's a lot

1304
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:15.440
<v Speaker 3>of coltson love and love, and I think Roma Donsay's

1305
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:18.679
<v Speaker 3>being forgot about. So I think that Roma Donza has

1306
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:19.800
<v Speaker 3>a ton of upside as well.

1307
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:23.400
<v Speaker 2>What about the biggest bus one or two in this range.

1308
01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:25.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess you would probably say, I mean,

1309
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I could speak for you and say,

1310
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Michael Wilson and Parker Washington and your biggest.

1311
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Bus they are yes, Okay.

1312
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:34.719
<v Speaker 2>The last tier not going to go into heavy breakdown

1313
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:37.000
<v Speaker 2>because there's so many players. Just ask you a few questions.

1314
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:39.480
<v Speaker 2>This is forty one through fifty six, so this is

1315
01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:43.119
<v Speaker 2>like second tier backup with a little bit of flex.

1316
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Makay Lemon comes in at forty one, followed by Pittman,

1317
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Addison, Wandel Robinson, Ricky Pirosaw, Quentin Johnston, Jayden Reid,

1318
01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:53.880
<v Speaker 2>and Josh Downs. That ends I think the wide receiver

1319
01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:56.920
<v Speaker 2>four top flex options. Then it goes to Xavier Worthy,

1320
01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Jayden Higgins, Khalil shak Here, Casey conception On, Romeo Dobs,

1321
01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Coker, Matthew Golden, and Rashid Shaheed. The question is

1322
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:09.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe just kind of getting into this, what do you

1323
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:12.960
<v Speaker 2>see as like any egregious early ranks Like this is

1324
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:14.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of like the upside question, like are there are

1325
01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:17.519
<v Speaker 2>a couple guys in this range that you really love?

1326
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously you might have guys ranked higher DA

1327
01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:21.119
<v Speaker 2>DA DAT, But like, who are a couple of guys

1328
01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:23.000
<v Speaker 2>that you really love in this range that you think

1329
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:25.719
<v Speaker 2>should be ranked higher and maybe will continue to rise

1330
01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:27.039
<v Speaker 2>as the offseason goes on.

1331
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I think Casey Kcepcion is a little low. I mean

1332
01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:33.639
<v Speaker 3>I have in ten spots higher than acr here I'm

1333
01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:36.599
<v Speaker 3>at forty two where he's at fifty two. I just

1334
01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:40.199
<v Speaker 3>think with the Browns specifically now that Miles Garrett's gone,

1335
01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:43.360
<v Speaker 3>they're going to be losing in so many games. Casey

1336
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Concepcion might be the leading target for the Browns here,

1337
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:51.000
<v Speaker 3>it could be Denzel Boston as well, it could continue

1338
01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:53.880
<v Speaker 3>to be Harold Fannin. That's what makes these guys a

1339
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:56.280
<v Speaker 3>little bit risky and dicey. Plus who's going to be

1340
01:05:56.280 --> 01:06:00.119
<v Speaker 3>the quarterback? Watson or Sanders. So I understand a lower rank,

1341
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:02.920
<v Speaker 3>but I think Concepcion comes in and is immediately the

1342
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:04.639
<v Speaker 3>best wide receiver on the field for the brown So

1343
01:06:05.079 --> 01:06:08.639
<v Speaker 3>I think he's a little low. I also think in

1344
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:12.679
<v Speaker 3>my ranking doesn't really show it. I think Jayden Reid

1345
01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:15.559
<v Speaker 3>is probably a little low. Wandale's probably a little low.

1346
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:17.719
<v Speaker 3>I just think the volume for these guys is going

1347
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:21.239
<v Speaker 3>to be nice specifically for you know, when we're talking

1348
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:23.800
<v Speaker 3>about running backs, what's going on with Josh Shacobs, right

1349
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:26.480
<v Speaker 3>and all of his stuff? And if Josh Shacobs isn't

1350
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:29.360
<v Speaker 3>going to be there, the backups to him are Marshawn

1351
01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Lloyd and Chris Brooks. I think it's gonna be a

1352
01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:33.840
<v Speaker 3>lot of Jordan Love throwing the ball. So the wide

1353
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:36.719
<v Speaker 3>receivers in Green Bay, including Watson, who I just don't

1354
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:38.840
<v Speaker 3>like because he can't stay healthy, but he's very talented.

1355
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:41.760
<v Speaker 3>I think all those guys, Matthew Golden, I think they

1356
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:45.280
<v Speaker 3>all have really high ceilings, but they all have pretty

1357
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:47.880
<v Speaker 3>decent floors too, because they can't all three stand out.

1358
01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:50.559
<v Speaker 2>Can you take a guess who the highest wide receiver

1359
01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:56.320
<v Speaker 2>of this group from a projection standpoint is?

1360
01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Is that going to be?

1361
01:06:58.800 --> 01:06:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? One?

1362
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:03.320
<v Speaker 3>Guess? Okay, Quentin Johnston.

1363
01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh you know what, though, he was number two, Pusy

1364
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:09.679
<v Speaker 2>damn not bad. I gotta give you credit because I

1365
01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:10.119
<v Speaker 2>get it wrong.

1366
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:15.159
<v Speaker 3>You just said no, No.

1367
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Very very close. But number one in the projected market

1368
01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:23.440
<v Speaker 2>is Wandel Robinson. And he scored the most points per game.

1369
01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:25.519
<v Speaker 2>I could tell you almost said him, you know, one

1370
01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:28.199
<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty targets last year, thirteen point six points

1371
01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:30.239
<v Speaker 2>per game. He goes to the Tennessee offense kind of

1372
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:32.000
<v Speaker 2>like you said, you gotta don't know what we're in

1373
01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:33.760
<v Speaker 2>for with cam Ward and what this offense is going

1374
01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:36.519
<v Speaker 2>to look like. But what you kind of think is,

1375
01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:39.280
<v Speaker 2>like Wander Robinson's always had safety that option. Yeah, maybe

1376
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:41.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe the ball moves a little bit more, maybe they

1377
01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:44.280
<v Speaker 2>move him out instead of like four yard outs, and

1378
01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Wando Robinson has nine catches for forty six yards. You know,

1379
01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:50.320
<v Speaker 2>it could be seven to eight catches and it's fifty

1380
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:51.960
<v Speaker 2>to sixty yards and it's a little bit more. He

1381
01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:54.960
<v Speaker 2>is projected number one of this group. Number two was

1382
01:07:55.039 --> 01:08:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Quintin Johnson, number three. I just wanted to touch real quick.

1383
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Do you have any opinions on your Pittsburgh Steelers, because

1384
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:04.840
<v Speaker 2>that's Michael Pittman. He comes in with one hundred and

1385
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:08.239
<v Speaker 2>forty seven yards, eighty two catches, a little south of

1386
01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:11.519
<v Speaker 2>eight hundred yards and five touchdowns. Obviously, DK Metcalf is higher,

1387
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:15.239
<v Speaker 2>but Metcalf isn't insanely higher. Sixty two catches, nine hundred

1388
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:17.720
<v Speaker 2>and six yards. You think either wide receiver is gonna

1389
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:20.199
<v Speaker 2>separate themselves that you're gonna kind of want them as

1390
01:08:20.199 --> 01:08:22.479
<v Speaker 2>a target because they're a deal or is it just

1391
01:08:22.600 --> 01:08:24.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of a lah in that Pittsburgh Steeler offense.

1392
01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I think we're gonna find out quick who the one

1393
01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:31.520
<v Speaker 3>to ross is. My bet would still be that it's

1394
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:36.319
<v Speaker 3>DK Metcalf, but the answer is probably nobody in Pittsburgh.

1395
01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:37.520
<v Speaker 3>It's Iron Rodgers.

1396
01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1397
01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:41.840
<v Speaker 3>You can't throw the ball downfield anymore. But that's just guys.

1398
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:43.520
<v Speaker 2>That's why I'd like and well but see, that's why

1399
01:08:43.560 --> 01:08:46.079
<v Speaker 2>I like Pittman. Like they they they showed they couldn't

1400
01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:48.000
<v Speaker 2>do the deep stuff with Metcalf by throwing him those

1401
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:50.279
<v Speaker 2>little screen passes and going he's great with the ball

1402
01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:54.359
<v Speaker 2>with you know after the catch him yeak, Michael. Pittman

1403
01:08:54.399 --> 01:08:56.560
<v Speaker 2>has always been pretty good at like ten and in

1404
01:08:56.680 --> 01:08:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and finding those little spots. I actually think Pittman might

1405
01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:02.600
<v Speaker 2>become a really good safety and full PPR. I'm gonna

1406
01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:04.560
<v Speaker 2>like Pittman, I think a little bit more. Maybe I'm wrong,

1407
01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:07.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe that creates more separation from Metcalf or something, but

1408
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:09.479
<v Speaker 2>I think Pittman is a guy that could end up

1409
01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:12.640
<v Speaker 2>having more targets. Metcalf is just the more explosive playmaker.

1410
01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:14.800
<v Speaker 3>I think everybody's gonna be wrong. It's probably gonna be

1411
01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Pat Fryerman without a yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1412
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:20.680
<v Speaker 3>But I do think it's going to be like, you know,

1413
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:23.680
<v Speaker 3>with the touchdowns. Maybe these guys blow up to wide

1414
01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:25.880
<v Speaker 3>receiver one every once in a while, but it's gonna

1415
01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:29.840
<v Speaker 3>be like, Okay, one week it was Pittman with three

1416
01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:32.640
<v Speaker 3>catches and Metcalf with seven. In the next week it

1417
01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:36.279
<v Speaker 3>was Pittman with seven and DK with three. It's gonna

1418
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:39.319
<v Speaker 3>depend on coverage and all that stuff, but they got

1419
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:41.600
<v Speaker 3>the big wide receivers to play bully ball and run

1420
01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:43.560
<v Speaker 3>like that's why they got them missed to block.

1421
01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:46.039
<v Speaker 2>So uh, any guys that you're gonna want to make

1422
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:48.239
<v Speaker 2>sure a couple guys, I think you You obviously like

1423
01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Casey Conception and that's probably one. Any other players you

1424
01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:53.079
<v Speaker 2>think you're gonna be rostering this is your kind of tier.

1425
01:09:54.359 --> 01:10:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that in this tier, oh Man Wandale

1426
01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:02.920
<v Speaker 3>is a good one. So and I'm a little bit

1427
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:06.880
<v Speaker 3>higher on him. I'm pretty positive on Makaya Lemon now

1428
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:10.600
<v Speaker 3>that AJ Brown is gone, and I'm higher on Romeo Dobbs.

1429
01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:13.479
<v Speaker 3>I think that you know AJ Brown is probably going

1430
01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:16.000
<v Speaker 3>to open up stuff for Romeo Dobbs. So those are

1431
01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:19.239
<v Speaker 3>probably the three that I'm most likely to I'm probably

1432
01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:21.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty lukewarm on Josh Downs. I know a lot

1433
01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:24.920
<v Speaker 3>of people really love Josh Downs with Pittman leaving and

1434
01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:28.319
<v Speaker 3>all that stuff, but you know, digging into Josh Downs,

1435
01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:31.319
<v Speaker 3>he catches the ball really well for a small guy.

1436
01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.560
<v Speaker 3>He's really great in contested situations. But he doesn't get yack.

1437
01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:38.239
<v Speaker 3>He's not an end zone threat. That's more Tyler Warren

1438
01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:41.359
<v Speaker 3>down there and way more Alec Pierce down there. And

1439
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:43.840
<v Speaker 3>JT scores all the touchdowns he had eighteen last year.

1440
01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:45.920
<v Speaker 3>So I just think if Josh Downs is going to

1441
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:48.439
<v Speaker 3>do work, it's going to be in PPR leagues.

1442
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Only another guy. I hate doing this, but like, just

1443
01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:53.479
<v Speaker 2>pay attention to Ricky Pierce. So I hate doing this

1444
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:55.520
<v Speaker 2>as forty nine Ers fan, but like just want to

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<v Speaker 2>point out if you have Mike if you and I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're a couple of spots are if you have

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01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Mike Evans there, Mike Evans is going to force a

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<v Speaker 2>decent amount of the attention on the offense, and if

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01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:06.000
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't immediately, he's going to end game because he'll

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01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:09.039
<v Speaker 2>get targets. So you've got the backfield of Christian McCaffrey,

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01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:11.600
<v Speaker 2>you've got one side of the field at Mike Evans.

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<v Speaker 2>And what did Ricky Piersoll proved to be? Ricky Piarsol

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01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:17.079
<v Speaker 2>did prove to be a little Jamison williamsz in that,

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01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Like he's gonna make some big plays, but perty's not

1455
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:21.520
<v Speaker 2>afraid to sling the ball to him. So Piarsaw might

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<v Speaker 2>not be some magnet, huge monster, but eight point nine

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01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:28.159
<v Speaker 2>fantasy points per game, I think that could decently go up.

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01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:30.520
<v Speaker 2>He could be a dark horse for a thousand yards.

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01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:32.479
<v Speaker 2>If he stays healthy for the entirety of the season,

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01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:34.680
<v Speaker 2>he might get a few more targets. And he's going

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<v Speaker 2>down here at forty five. I just you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you probably studo agree with me. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he's like a massive target, but it's like a wide

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01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:41.880
<v Speaker 2>receiver like five or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, I mean I don't think that's bad, not

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<v Speaker 3>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm eight and thirty two receiving yards.

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<v Speaker 3>He's projected for who knows who is going to lead

1469
01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:52.800
<v Speaker 3>the Niners, you know what I mean, Like it's probably

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01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:56.760
<v Speaker 3>gonna be christ McCaffrey, but it could easily be Ricky.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very interesting stuff. There you go, fifty six wide receivers.

1472
01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:02.880
<v Speaker 2>That's the ECR. Obviously you can go to Fantasy Pro

1473
01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:05.920
<v Speaker 2>check out their ECR and ADP. Those are not necessarily

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01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:08.239
<v Speaker 2>our ranks. This is what the consensus looks like. But

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01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:11.199
<v Speaker 2>this gets you set to some of the projections, what

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01:12:11.239 --> 01:12:14.239
<v Speaker 2>the tiers look like, the valuations, and in some spots

1477
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:18.279
<v Speaker 2>very interesting where it's like rank versus ADP versus projection

1478
01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:20.439
<v Speaker 2>and how different they are. Hopefully that got you guys

1479
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:23.239
<v Speaker 2>set up and you enjoyed that. Next up, we will

1480
01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:25.880
<v Speaker 2>be talking about quarterbacks and tight ends in one episode,

1481
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:28.640
<v Speaker 2>just kind of barreling through that to get through this

1482
01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:31.159
<v Speaker 2>primer season, and then we will be getting into the

1483
01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:32.960
<v Speaker 2>meat of stuff. We got mock drafts planned. If you

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01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:34.159
<v Speaker 2>guys want to be a part of those, go to

1485
01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:36.800
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1486
01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:38.439
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1487
01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, you're looking for leagues. People are setting

1488
01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:43.319
<v Speaker 2>up leagues, whether it's a dynasty or normal. Sometimes we

1489
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:45.199
<v Speaker 2>have some fun ones that we're getting down with. You

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01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:47.000
<v Speaker 2>have access to us and you can be a part

1491
01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:49.279
<v Speaker 2>of these mock drafts, be a character on the show

1492
01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:50.840
<v Speaker 2>and just have some fun in the fantasy season. That

1493
01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:53.960
<v Speaker 2>is what we are all about and we appreciate the support.

1494
01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:57.119
<v Speaker 2>It makes the world go round. Find all the Bogman

1495
01:12:57.199 --> 01:12:58.880
<v Speaker 2>ranks at in this league dot com. You can find

1496
01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:01.399
<v Speaker 2>us on Fantasy Pros doing lots of different videos. I

1497
01:13:01.399 --> 01:13:03.720
<v Speaker 2>got a one coming up next week with Deep Bro

1498
01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:07.319
<v Speaker 2>and Pat. I believe in Boggs and I with I

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01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:09.520
<v Speaker 2>want to say, maybe Pat and someone else in a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks will be doing a mock draft bogs

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01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:16.239
<v Speaker 2>mind not even know. Yeah, there's gotta be like a guest.

1502
01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:16.640
<v Speaker 3>It's like you.

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01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:18.760
<v Speaker 2>I want to say it's Umi and Pat with a guest,

1504
01:13:18.920 --> 01:13:20.840
<v Speaker 2>but it could be Umi and Deebro. I'll have to recheck.

1505
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:23.000
<v Speaker 2>But go to Fantasy Pros follow that. You'll find us

1506
01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:25.039
<v Speaker 2>there as well. Make sure you're subscribed to this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>because football action is underway. Thank you guys as always,

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<v Speaker 2>or Bogwin, I'm Wels. We'll talk to you next time

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<v Speaker 2>right here and then this league. Peace.