Speaker 1: I have that ability here. I'll bring you back in internet.
Speaker 1: He moves to a new house in Summerland, and he
Speaker 1: looks like like one of the characters.
Speaker 2: John, you're a social media guy. You can't have ship
Speaker 2: internet man, like.
Speaker 1: You're all bad. It's like almost as bad as the
Speaker 1: internet in your office.
Speaker 2: That looks like this is better than that, clearly much better. Actually,
Speaker 2: what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Ever since we moved to your cell phone, life is
Speaker 1: a lot better recording the show?
Speaker 3: How are you feeling? You look?
Speaker 2: You actually look like energized today. You look very nice.
Speaker 2: What's what's going on with you? You don't seem stressed.
Speaker 2: You seem very positive.
Speaker 1: I'm actually really stressed today. That's funny you say that
Speaker 1: I haven't been going going So I got elected h
Speaker 1: a president this week, so that was fun.
Speaker 3: Well good because you don't have enough going on. So that.
Speaker 1: In charge and that means shit is gonna get done.
Speaker 3: Murray, Like, what are you gonna like?
Speaker 2: Are?
Speaker 3: What's I got on this list?
Speaker 1: So if you guys didn't know, I handwrite everything and
Speaker 1: then I type it into like a spreadsheek is, I'm
Speaker 1: a psycho, but I gotta talk to the guy at
Speaker 1: our landscaping company. We got to make sure we got
Speaker 1: the trees ready for winter. We gotta install front sprinklers,
Speaker 1: you know, like hoa shit, And then I gotta like
Speaker 1: yell at the people that haven't paid past two assessments.
Speaker 1: You know, that's the fun part we need When you say.
Speaker 2: Yell hold on a second, do you mean like literally
Speaker 2: yelled them, Like.
Speaker 1: I call the management company that we pay and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: this person didn't pay, and then they have to be
Speaker 1: the bad guy. I can't even bag out of my neighbors.
Speaker 1: I actually like, I don't think there's like a neighbor
Speaker 1: that I dislike. So it's like I don't want to
Speaker 1: be the bad guy. I just want to like get
Speaker 1: shit figured out, Like why we're paying ten thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a year for insurance insurance on what we don't even
Speaker 1: have anything. We don't have a pool, we don't have
Speaker 1: like basketball courts. Why do we need insurance? Is such
Speaker 1: a scam, That's.
Speaker 3: What I do think.
Speaker 2: Do you think that you're rain is going to lead
Speaker 2: to like a lot of people leaving?
Speaker 3: Are you going to be like.
Speaker 1: You think because I'm the HOA president, people are going
Speaker 1: to move?
Speaker 2: Like are you gonna be like what like with Gavin
Speaker 2: Newsom is done to California where like everybody freese.
Speaker 1: Unify our neighborhood. And the very first thing I did
Speaker 1: on Friday when I got elected, because I was the
Speaker 1: treasurer is to say no, we are not increasing our
Speaker 1: HOA fees. Hello. So like when I say no new taxes,
Speaker 1: I need no new taxes.
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Is that a shot at Georgia poitical position I got?
Speaker 3: This? Is that a shot at George H. W. Bush?
Speaker 2: You know that's why he lost reelection in ninety two.
Speaker 2: He said, read my lips, no new taxes. Back then,
Speaker 2: both parties didn't like taxes. This was in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 2: You were a kid, I very.
Speaker 1: Dory, vaguely remember nineteen ninety two, Georgia.
Speaker 2: Why George H. W. Bush said, read my lips, no
Speaker 2: new taxes. Then he implemented new taxes.
Speaker 1: That's why he didn't get all these lie That's all
Speaker 1: they do is lie. That's why a lot of people
Speaker 1: will react on social media.
Speaker 2: But now half the country wants more taxes, even I
Speaker 2: mean I don't, but it seems like people.
Speaker 1: I just paid off my taxes for twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, just in time for twenty twenty six. Coincidentally,
Speaker 1: I paid a lot of money in taxes this year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well anyway, then I got to play with our old
Speaker 1: management company, so that was cool. I found twenty one
Speaker 1: thousand dollars that they forgot to give us. See look
Speaker 1: at all the things I'm doing that are great.
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, pretty productive.
Speaker 1: Yeah. First, I'm not stressed. I I had to do that,
Speaker 1: and then I'm making some changes at wager Talk. Things
Speaker 1: are going really good. That's what I think. I'm energized
Speaker 1: because I'm out of energy as well.
Speaker 3: Tell me, tell me about the changes.
Speaker 1: So we have a new partnership deal. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people alreadyknew this with picks and parlays, winners
Speaker 1: and whiners, and we're taking over all of their social
Speaker 1: media and YouTube channels. It's gonna be good for John Hoblin.
Speaker 1: Means he's gonna have zero life. But I bringing back
Speaker 1: some other shows that we previously got rid of. That's
Speaker 1: what I was asking yesterday about the future of this show,
Speaker 1: and you were just like, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, let's let's get can't we just get through? I mean,
Speaker 2: how many more weeks of football, is it.
Speaker 1: Like, well, we are contractually obligated till March madness, March madness,
Speaker 1: So well, you're not like four and a half more months.
Speaker 3: That's not that long, right, four months?
Speaker 1: You're you know, I talked to what is the National
Speaker 1: Championship like five months away?
Speaker 2: Probably like the Yeah, you know, four months. It's probably
Speaker 2: the first week of April, like right before the Masters
Speaker 2: and right before oh bro and the bro Am six
Speaker 2: will be then too.
Speaker 1: But I don't ever get invited to that, so I
Speaker 1: don't care.
Speaker 3: That's it's because it's only for the Broska.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: We we tried to do the female team one year
Speaker 2: with Kristin Mackie and then.
Speaker 1: Like everybody to do the female team with me and Ariel.
Speaker 3: Ariel does not have like golf.
Speaker 1: That she gives shit. She knows how to drink.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, she does know how to drink.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, good answer, good answer, All right, Well
Speaker 2: we'll consider it for Brohm six.
Speaker 3: Brett Brett played in the first program.
Speaker 1: I remember speaking. I think he was unable to walk
Speaker 1: back to the Westgate. But what do I know? Thank
Speaker 1: you for that?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think sleep in the clubhouse. Actually, John Murray, if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know anything about that. I know that the Brohm
Speaker 2: is a fun event. People look forward to it to
Speaker 2: be of a social calendar.
Speaker 1: Positive. He was in the clubhouse and it was your fault. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it might have. Actually it might have been the Super
Speaker 1: Contest golf tournament. Regardless, he played golf with you and
Speaker 1: it was your fault that.
Speaker 3: I'll take the blame for that. So we're what week
Speaker 3: is this? This is week fifteen?
Speaker 2: You know somebody, Oh my god, somebody asked me about
Speaker 2: your involvement in all these contests. Yeah, and they asked me,
Speaker 2: how do you keep track of it all?
Speaker 3: Are you still alive? And any contests? One? And it
Speaker 3: was that a buy in one or a preseason one.
Speaker 1: It was a let me give you the exact information.
Speaker 1: I don't ever get called a liar on this show.
Speaker 3: It was, but it was a rebuy.
Speaker 1: It was a rebuy. Splash Millionaire Survivor Revival started week seven.
Speaker 3: We had here at the Westgate.
Speaker 2: Our Survivor Contest ended Sunday and it was kind of
Speaker 2: interesting because we were down to eight entries. One of
Speaker 2: the guys had two of the eight oh, the other
Speaker 2: six people. The other six people all used the Buccaneers wow.
Speaker 2: And he went he had one Cleveland one Seattle Wow.
Speaker 2: So when the Buccaneers lost.
Speaker 3: Seattle was blowing out Atlanta and it was just over.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that because I was sitting there
Speaker 2: watching the end of the Browns game, like, okay, if
Speaker 2: the if the Titans win, then the contest is over. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it actually was already. The guy was already gonna get
Speaker 2: the whole pool, whole pot.
Speaker 1: So congrats to him, nuts on him, Good for him, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's the guy that if you remember he
Speaker 2: used what game was it? He used the Cowboys when
Speaker 2: they were a three point underdog, I think against Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Do you recall that there was a there was a
Speaker 2: week where somebody in our survivor pool used the Cowboys
Speaker 2: as an underdog.
Speaker 3: I think it was against Philly.
Speaker 2: Okay, and there was people commenting like, did he make
Speaker 2: a mistake with that because they were a three point.
Speaker 1: Well it's not like when the guy you accidentally used
Speaker 1: the Packers on thingsgiving and they were like over a
Speaker 1: touchdown underdog, you know what I mean, Like they were
Speaker 1: at home dog.
Speaker 2: True, But Thanksgiving, you've got four games to choose from.
Speaker 2: In our contest, you had, like, you know, maybe probably
Speaker 2: twelve or thirteen games. Did you really need to use
Speaker 2: a dog?
Speaker 3: Whatever?
Speaker 1: He?
Speaker 3: Who am I to give him advice?
Speaker 2: He just won five hundred and fifty five thousand dollars
Speaker 2: the loan survivor, the loan winner of our contest.
Speaker 1: And it's over, so you don't have to mess with
Speaker 1: all this awful week God whatever forsaken. Who's gonna sit?
Speaker 1: Who's going to start?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think congratulations to that to the person who won.
Speaker 2: And one of the questions I get a lot is
Speaker 2: what are we going to change for next year? I
Speaker 2: don't think that we need in the survivor pool. I
Speaker 2: don't know why we would change anything. We were able
Speaker 2: to get it finished in week fifty fourteen, right only.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a great just a great traditional
Speaker 1: format high stakes. I thought it was wonderful. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think CE team made me take some Thursday night team
Speaker 1: in the division. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't like changing. I mean, you can make small
Speaker 2: changes to end season prizes. I guess that I get
Speaker 2: that part. But if you keep the contest consistent, I
Speaker 2: think it's got a better chance to grow an audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, look at the contest, there's really
Speaker 1: nothing to change.
Speaker 2: Well, the people are asking pay more places do in
Speaker 2: season prizes?
Speaker 3: Oh yes, oh yes.
Speaker 1: Top ten pay the top ten.
Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm saying you said there's nothing to change.
Speaker 3: That's what people as.
Speaker 1: Tell me there is. I thought it was a really
Speaker 1: well round contest that the person or team that does
Speaker 1: the best over fourteen weeks gets first prize. The winner
Speaker 1: gets percentage of the prize pool. I will see this.
Speaker 1: I love doing stuff on Splash, and I get to
Speaker 1: change it however I want right, and I play with
Speaker 1: commissioners that I like and people that like my contest
Speaker 1: play how I like. I usually do not pick a
Speaker 1: contest that pays like the top one hundred or two
Speaker 1: hundred places. It's like I did a call. I did
Speaker 1: an NFL contest with them, and I tied for third. Okay,
Speaker 1: if I would have gotten first place out on forty grand,
Speaker 1: but I tied for third with like sixteen other people,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you're kidding, And what did you get?
Speaker 1: Like thirteen hundred dollars for a thousand dollars buying though,
Speaker 1: So I made three hundred bucks, but it was a
Speaker 1: thousand dollars buying. The tie breaker thing is the only
Speaker 1: thing that gets a little convoluted over there. But the
Speaker 1: guy who got first and the guy who got second,
Speaker 1: you can bet they were happy. Who cares if places
Speaker 1: eleventh through whatever don't get paid?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know. I mean there's just there's there's
Speaker 3: two ways of looking at it.
Speaker 2: People want to get you know, people pressured Ja Cornegie
Speaker 2: for a long time to pay more places and put
Speaker 2: more money in the in season contests and do more
Speaker 2: in season contests, and then it's like, oh, hey, now
Speaker 2: your winner only gets this much. Okay, So yeah, because
Speaker 2: it comes out with the price.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's not my point is. So, for example, I'm
Speaker 1: in a contest right now. I'm going to tell you
Speaker 1: where I'm at. I have not been doing them very
Speaker 1: well the last couple weeks, but right now I'm sitting
Speaker 1: in fourteenth place. I am, and I'm tied with other people.
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred and eleven and ninety seven on the
Speaker 1: NFL season and I'm tied with other people. But the
Speaker 1: top three one two eighty six, one nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 1: one seventeen ninety one.
Speaker 3: How many games a week?
Speaker 1: Are you picking every single game? It's every single NFL
Speaker 1: game against his pread?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, but it sounds like the worst.
Speaker 1: It's awful. Well, what the worst part is is the
Speaker 1: week that I went fourteen in two is I still
Speaker 1: didn't get the weekly prize of fifteen hundred dollars because
Speaker 1: somebody else not fifteen and one you were what would
Speaker 1: be the prize is great and all, but I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: is a five hundred dollars buy And what am I
Speaker 1: going to get back for tying for fourteenth place? Like
Speaker 1: that's stupid. I shouldn't get anything back. I'm having a
Speaker 1: good year, but I'm not having a winning year. It
Speaker 1: is what it is.
Speaker 3: It's not enough to be making money.
Speaker 1: No, But I'm not going to go to the commissioner
Speaker 1: and say you should pay the top fifteen places. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's only like one hundred sum of us in this contest,
Speaker 1: one hundred and there's all one hundred and fourteen of
Speaker 1: us in this contest. We just paid five hundred bucks
Speaker 1: to get in, so it's like.
Speaker 3: Fourteen one hundred and fourteen people pay the top five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine if you really really want to pay
Speaker 1: the top ten. But like paying out all these places
Speaker 1: I think is stupid. I think we we are trying.
Speaker 1: It's like participation trophies. Like I said, I was like
Speaker 1: so annoyed that I won three hundred dollars. Who maybe
Speaker 1: not winning three hundred dollars. I had a great I
Speaker 1: went thirteen and two and I tied with like a
Speaker 1: bazillion other people to go thirteen and two that week.
Speaker 3: I think that's kind of your generation though.
Speaker 2: Participation trophees make everybody happy.
Speaker 3: Now, how did you do last week? I don't recall
Speaker 3: you melting down.
Speaker 1: I was this close to going five and oho in
Speaker 1: the Westgate Super Contest, and I almost tweeted it. I
Speaker 1: just twd it, and because so what. I was watching
Speaker 1: h Broncos Raiders as twenty four to seven, and then
Speaker 1: I see Caleb Williams, you know the double box. I
Speaker 1: see Caleb Williams throw a touchdown pass. I'm like, oh boy,
Speaker 1: here come the fourth quarter Bears. I got Packers minus
Speaker 1: six and a half.
Speaker 2: So I just clicked the box because, well, hold on,
Speaker 2: hold on, because you hate the Bears.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, I hate the Bears. That's why. Uh
Speaker 1: So I was like here come the fourth quarter Bears.
Speaker 1: So I just go to Bears Packers, which obviously started
Speaker 1: almost twenty minutes after Broncos Raiders. Then I get on
Speaker 1: social media after the game and I'm like sweet four
Speaker 1: and O today baby, like let's have a day. And
Speaker 1: I was looking for Sunday night football stuff and I
Speaker 1: was like what.
Speaker 3: Just what?
Speaker 1: Just what? How did I not? I didn't cover Broncos
Speaker 1: and I see everybody else melting down, But by then
Speaker 1: it was too late to melt down, like I. I
Speaker 1: was like an hour past the game when I was
Speaker 1: gonna get mad, an hour past the game.
Speaker 2: You think there's like a statute of limitations on melting down, Like,
Speaker 2: h well, I got fucked, but it happened two days ago.
Speaker 3: So I can't say anything I gave you whether.
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll knew spread or not. Okay, okay.
Speaker 3: I think I think that the teams.
Speaker 2: I've always believed that the teams know what the point
Speaker 2: spread is. Did you see that interview with uh did
Speaker 2: you see that interview with coach Rabel this week? Well,
Speaker 2: I actually I had talked to the reporter from the
Speaker 2: Boston Globe this week about the Patriots being or the
Speaker 2: Bills being favored in Buffalo or Bill's being favored in
Speaker 2: New England.
Speaker 3: That's the excuse me and Vrabel. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that the reporter was referring to talking
Speaker 2: to me, but Rabel said or the reporters said something
Speaker 2: to Vrabel, Hey, coach, are you aware that the people
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas have you guys as an underdog?
Speaker 3: And Rabel just goes.
Speaker 2: What people and the guy the reporters like, well, you know,
Speaker 2: the the odds makers, the people that set the lines,
Speaker 2: and Rable's like, you know, it's only a couple of people, right,
Speaker 2: It's kind of Rabel is just like the classic guy
Speaker 2: you don't want to like mess with.
Speaker 1: Just the giant meathead. What do you expect.
Speaker 3: I just feel like he's the kind of guy. And
Speaker 3: I don't know this reporter. I talked to him. He
Speaker 3: seemed very nice, so I don't mean him personally.
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of these reporters are like
Speaker 2: probably guys that are like big nerds, and a guy
Speaker 2: like a guy like Mike Rabel probably stuffed them in
Speaker 2: lockers when they were growing up. And it's just a
Speaker 2: very funny interaction.
Speaker 3: My point is yes, I think that Mike Rabel and
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll and all the coaches know the lines.
Speaker 1: Yes, probably, But but my point is is that the
Speaker 1: so reality is there's five seconds left. You don't play
Speaker 1: to lose, well, you play to win the game.
Speaker 2: So you're the kick was the kick on the last
Speaker 2: play of the game.
Speaker 1: So so what really happened was the kind of weird flag, right,
Speaker 1: was the play to keep the play to keep the
Speaker 1: to stop the clock, and there's five seconds left, you
Speaker 1: have to keep the field goal. I'm not happy at
Speaker 1: the end result, but I think absolutely Pete Carroll has
Speaker 1: to try to score points there is still time left
Speaker 1: on the clock. I mean, I know you guys are
Speaker 1: happy that he elected to do so, but I do
Speaker 1: think that that's the right move. Even though I had
Speaker 1: money on the other side.
Speaker 2: I'll put the game over the total and most of
Speaker 2: our action was on the moneyline, parlays and teasers.
Speaker 1: Really wasn't but it didn't really matter.
Speaker 2: It wasn't good for us. I can't like, here's something
Speaker 2: that I feel like you're.
Speaker 1: I thought when you said, hey, raiders are my biggest need,
Speaker 1: YadA YadA YadA, you would be over the moon. Today
Speaker 1: over the moon.
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think one thing that your followers,
Speaker 2: your fan you know, your fan base, the Kelly fans
Speaker 2: and the people in the gambling Twitter space, most of.
Speaker 3: Whom are idiots. They they got to understand that.
Speaker 2: Like if I say that the Westgate needs this side,
Speaker 2: and then the kid over at MGM is quoted as
Speaker 2: saying they need this side, nobody don't get that.
Speaker 3: They don't want that.
Speaker 2: You guy, sports books, there's two different sports books.
Speaker 1: And X in Costa Rica needs why and the one
Speaker 1: in Canada needs this, and then one over in Europe
Speaker 1: needs that.
Speaker 3: Like, well we had ah. I saw that.
Speaker 2: I think MGM had taken a lot of money on Virginia,
Speaker 2: so they needed Duke.
Speaker 3: We needed Virginia.
Speaker 2: Because my brain trust here told me Duke was mathematically
Speaker 2: eliminated from the conference a couple of weeks ago, so
Speaker 2: we needed Virginia. That doesn't mean that I'm lying or
Speaker 2: that the kid at MGM is lying. How do people
Speaker 2: not understand.
Speaker 1: That I don't. I don't know. I needed Duke, so
Speaker 1: I was happy.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I was at I was at the UFC, so I
Speaker 2: didn't I went to UFC three twenty three on Saturday night,
Speaker 2: so I didn't see. I watched the Georgia game, but
Speaker 2: I didn't see the Big Ten game.
Speaker 3: I didn't see the ACC game.
Speaker 2: But my guys tell me, well, I mean, they also
Speaker 2: told me Duke was mathematically eliminated. But my guys tell
Speaker 2: me that the Indiana quarterback locked up the Heisman on Saturday.
Speaker 3: How is that when they won thirteen to ten.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He was minus five thousand on one
Speaker 1: of my sites. Okay, I think it was on Friday night,
Speaker 1: and then he was only minus nineteen hundred on Monday morning.
Speaker 1: I thought that was weird.
Speaker 2: Oh he didn't be minus no, Well, hold on, he
Speaker 2: wasn't minus five thousand before the game.
Speaker 3: That's not true. He just said Friday night.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the last I looked was Friday.
Speaker 3: Night before the game. Before the Big Ten title game,
Speaker 3: he was minus five thousands.
Speaker 1: Because Julian Sane wasn't gonna win it anyway. No matter
Speaker 1: what he did in the Big Ten title game, he
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna win it anyway.
Speaker 3: What about the Vanderbilt kid.
Speaker 1: He wasn't playing in any title game. He wasn't getting
Speaker 1: in the college football playoff. That kid is no stop
Speaker 1: stop stop it stop it all right.
Speaker 3: Well, I hope you're right about Mendoza.
Speaker 2: We we we had kind of an up and down weekend.
Speaker 2: You know, we actually did really well on Friday night.
Speaker 2: We we did really well Friday night. If if UNLV
Speaker 2: had beat by U b Yu, if UNLV had beat
Speaker 2: Boise State, I mean we would have had a massive
Speaker 2: Friday because we won every other games.
Speaker 3: We did well. The sun Sunday was Saturday.
Speaker 2: Was no good because of Georgia, because of Duke, But
Speaker 2: Sunday was the same. Sunday is like Groundhog Day around here.
Speaker 2: It's the same exact thing. They come in. We do
Speaker 2: very well in the morning. We post all the morning games.
Speaker 2: There's usually three afternoon games. They all suck. It's all
Speaker 2: a fine. I didn't watch one play of any of
Speaker 2: the three games, but I know that the Packers went
Speaker 2: covered and they went over. I know that the Rams
Speaker 2: covered and they went over, and the Raiders went over.
Speaker 1: So the afternoon the Raiders won is whatever.
Speaker 3: We blew everything back.
Speaker 2: But then Sunday night Texans beat the Chiefs very good.
Speaker 2: And then on Monday night Rafts San Diego or whatever
Speaker 2: beat Philadelphia. That was really good for us, So we
Speaker 2: did very good. It's the same It's the same story
Speaker 2: every week in the NFL morning we do well, afternoon
Speaker 2: we blow it, and then hopefully we we do okay
Speaker 2: in the primetime games.
Speaker 3: This week we did. We did very well on the
Speaker 3: Monday night Sunny.
Speaker 1: Why don't you tell me about Thursday night football so
Speaker 1: that our social team can clip it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I looked up when I came into it.
Speaker 2: Who's playing? This is a this is a game Atlanta
Speaker 2: and Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we all kind of thought Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: was pretty good about five weeks ago. Sure we uh
Speaker 1: we sat right here. Oh, don't act like we didn't
Speaker 1: talk about Tampa Bay being like a fairly decent team,
Speaker 1: and then they lost to the Patriots and it's just
Speaker 1: been downhill since that's true.
Speaker 2: We could do I mean, we could use the Falcons
Speaker 2: for a peanut. I mean, if they could win the game,
Speaker 2: that'd be nice.
Speaker 3: But we don't.
Speaker 2: Nobody gives a shit about this game. Come on, come on, Kelly.
Speaker 1: Aren't you guys like booking it at like, well, we
Speaker 1: got five.
Speaker 3: We got bucks minus five and a half minus one
Speaker 3: oh five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so they might give a shit.
Speaker 2: Who could possibly watch this. Actually, I found out that
Speaker 2: one of the kids that works here.
Speaker 3: Is going to this game. He's a lifelong Buccaneers fan.
Speaker 1: He's here, by the way. Brought was at the game
Speaker 1: Sunday with Grandma, the Saints game and it was raining
Speaker 1: and horrible weather, and then tonight it's gonna be like
Speaker 1: forty degrees. I'm not I'm a fairweather fan. I'm not
Speaker 1: going any of those games.
Speaker 2: Well, I saw our our buddy Sam Panionovich, he's at
Speaker 2: sp shoot on X he he asked, like, what would
Speaker 2: they have to if you got a free ticket to
Speaker 2: the Bears game?
Speaker 3: Would you go? It's like negative thirty degree windshield there
Speaker 3: on Sunday.
Speaker 1: The coldest I've ever been to in my life was
Speaker 1: at Soldier Field, freezing. I get hurt to walk back
Speaker 1: to the hotel after the game, and I was like
Speaker 1: in like orange hunting gear. They played the Cowboys. My
Speaker 1: beer was like freezing to the inside of the cup
Speaker 1: as they were pouring it, and I was like, fuck
Speaker 1: this shit, I'm going to club level and I ditch
Speaker 1: everybody else with my friends in club level. It was
Speaker 1: I was miserable.
Speaker 3: Not everybody has the option to just go to club level.
Speaker 1: Well, well, you got to know people that are in
Speaker 1: club loble. That's how you go to club level. And
Speaker 1: also if you just act like you've been there before,
Speaker 1: they let you do things. I don't understand why people
Speaker 1: can't do this. I'll know Aeriel panicking at Morgan Wallen
Speaker 1: and I'm like, be quiet ready for this. We're going
Speaker 1: to walk up to the front and you were going
Speaker 1: to follow me, and no one help us.
Speaker 3: Kelly.
Speaker 2: It's really simple if you act like you've been there
Speaker 2: and you know what you're doing and look like you
Speaker 2: and Ariel. That doesn't work for everybody, it works for
Speaker 2: a lot of people. You think a group of four
Speaker 2: guys could just walk in.
Speaker 1: Me and my buddy Joe went to the Sweet sixteen
Speaker 1: in Ohio. I think we were in Cleveland for Notre
Speaker 1: Dame and he goes, let's go up to the club
Speaker 1: level and I was like, oh, you you got like
Speaker 1: club level passing. He's like, no, we's a walk in
Speaker 1: the elevator, smile to the nice elevator, lady, get off,
Speaker 1: and next thing you know where in club level. And
Speaker 1: I was like, see, this is the same thing we
Speaker 1: did at the Bears game. You just gotta fit in
Speaker 1: a little bit and pretendly I did.
Speaker 3: That, you know what.
Speaker 2: I did that at a UFC event in Salt Lake
Speaker 2: City a few summers ago.
Speaker 3: You just have to keep.
Speaker 1: You just keep the worst thing that's gonna happen, Oh
Speaker 1: you can't be here, Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd ask you to leave that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: That's a funny thing that happens here in the Sports Book,
Speaker 2: Like people will sit down in these tables that has
Speaker 2: a sign right on it that says call for reservations,
Speaker 2: and the security or one of the servers, you know,
Speaker 2: Hannah Maria, they'll go over to them and be like, yeah, sir,
Speaker 2: you know you can't sit there.
Speaker 3: It's reserved.
Speaker 2: And they're just like, fuck you. It's like what Like
Speaker 2: it's a table, it does reserve about it. You know
Speaker 2: you're not supposed to be there. People are crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My buddy, my buddy Jason sent me a video.
Speaker 1: He's playing Cowboy Christmas in the Convention Center. He sent
Speaker 1: me a video of the Sports Book this morning and goes, now,
Speaker 1: I know why you love it here, And I was like,
Speaker 1: this is my home away from home.
Speaker 3: I'll be there in March, Yes you will. We have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mom, did my mom booked her flight. She's here
Speaker 2: the thirteenth through the twenty third.
Speaker 1: I can't hear you said, I will not be there
Speaker 1: for ten days.
Speaker 3: Well, she's she wants to be with Mario. You know,
Speaker 3: he's such a cute.
Speaker 1: And you're working like seventy hours a week so she
Speaker 1: can hang out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I be. I will be watching college basketball. I
Speaker 3: will enjoy that.
Speaker 2: I think hopefully one day college football learns from college basketball.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't, but oh boy, I was hoping
Speaker 1: we could skip this.
Speaker 3: Oh no. I was talking to my brother about this.
Speaker 2: He said, the reason why these coaches have to leave
Speaker 2: is because it's all based on the class schedule for
Speaker 2: the semester ends.
Speaker 3: So they've got to they've got to be enrolling their
Speaker 3: new players.
Speaker 1: For the next time, like first week in January.
Speaker 3: So that's why you end up with a game.
Speaker 2: All Miss versus Twulane with two Lane Duck coaches.
Speaker 1: No to Lane's coach is coaching in the college football.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I'm sure he's very focused.
Speaker 1: Somebody said that about Colin Kline, you know, come in too,
Speaker 1: k State, about how focused is A and M gonna be?
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I wanted to bet against them,
Speaker 1: and I also want to bet against Miami, and of
Speaker 1: course the committee had to put them together. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody, you know what, somebody made a good point,
Speaker 2: because I know I think it was by U's Twitter
Speaker 2: account or somebody made a good point about it, because
Speaker 2: obviously we decided this isn't about having the best teams.
Speaker 2: It's about having the teams that deserved it the most,
Speaker 2: because that's how Kelly generation is.
Speaker 3: So you have to accept that.
Speaker 2: It's not about trying to determine who the best team
Speaker 2: in college football is. It's about making everybody's feelings feel good.
Speaker 3: That's what we did, right.
Speaker 2: So BYU went eleven and one in the Big Twelve,
Speaker 2: Miami went ten and two in the ACC. Who's a
Speaker 2: better conference, Big twelve or ACC?
Speaker 1: Well, we already know. But here's the problem. Answer the question,
Speaker 1: and we already know it's the Big Twelve. I've been
Speaker 1: streaming that since the slash contract back in July when
Speaker 1: you guys to the ACC.
Speaker 2: Well, but now we've actually watched it and we know
Speaker 2: for sure the Big Twelve is better.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, here's the problem.
Speaker 3: The problem.
Speaker 1: B YU looked so bad in the Big Twelve championship game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard that too. Then why then why didn't
Speaker 3: Alabama get I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna get to that in a second. Oh yeah, is
Speaker 1: that they got penalized for that because they played in
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. The argument, and I've been telling you
Speaker 1: this since the dawn of time, the argument is, oh,
Speaker 1: BIMA plays in the SEC, and you sit there and
Speaker 1: you pander to their bullshit as well. You said there
Speaker 1: is dollar ratings was well, yeah, you put nineteens in
Speaker 1: the top twenty four season and only four of them
Speaker 1: in up there at the end of the season. Were
Speaker 1: they really top twenty five teams?
Speaker 2: To begin with, b YU had a better record than Miami,
Speaker 2: They played in a tougher conference than Miami.
Speaker 3: Their loss was at Texas Tech.
Speaker 2: Miami lost to sm U and Louisville, and Miami jumped
Speaker 2: them the last week of the year.
Speaker 3: Explain that to somebody.
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't explain it. BYU has money and
Speaker 1: they're gonna start to spend money. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: become a bigger brand. That's the only way. It's because
Speaker 1: Miami is a bigger brand money wise.
Speaker 3: They've got to fix the college football playoff.
Speaker 1: They're not going to look who runs it, Look who's
Speaker 1: all the money.
Speaker 2: Two years in a row, the committee has done that
Speaker 2: both times. Their bracket has been an abomination, and we're
Speaker 2: stuck now with TWU Lane Ole miss is the game
Speaker 2: on set. If I was TNT, I'd be like, are
Speaker 2: you fucking serious? That's the game we get? And then
Speaker 2: after that game is over, the primetime game, Oregon is
Speaker 2: a three touchdown plus favorite against another team whose coach
Speaker 2: is leaving to go to another job. It is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It is ridiculous. It's an abomination.
Speaker 1: What do you say, Well, you pandered to these assholes
Speaker 1: all season long, James Madison the SEC and listen, this
Speaker 1: is how they wrote it in that they were gonna
Speaker 1: let too at large.
Speaker 3: In Miami didn't even qualify for the ACC Championship.
Speaker 1: I said that they shouldn't be in. I said that
Speaker 1: Alabama shouldn't be in. I said that it should be
Speaker 1: b y U and if the problem. But the problem
Speaker 1: is is if you look at just the eye test,
Speaker 1: notre game, all they had to do is win one
Speaker 1: of those games, either A and M or Miami, just
Speaker 1: one of them, and they would have been in.
Speaker 3: You look at the I test, Notre Dame is one
Speaker 3: of the three best teams in the country.
Speaker 1: But you don't understand. I don't understand a power ratings perspective.
Speaker 1: But when you are a committee, I guarantee these people
Speaker 1: do not look at power ratings unless they're written by
Speaker 1: the mickey.
Speaker 2: I want to know what they are looking at. If
Speaker 2: BYU doesn't get you're looking.
Speaker 1: At Miami beat beat or Notre Dame lost to Miami
Speaker 1: and they.
Speaker 2: Forget about, don't forget about forget about Notre Dame. Miami
Speaker 2: over Notre Dame. There's an argument there. They have the
Speaker 2: same record and Miami beat them.
Speaker 3: I get that. Explain BYU losing to Miami.
Speaker 1: There isn't I said, why do you keep bringing up
Speaker 1: b YU if they if they lost A and m
Speaker 1: let's just call it a twenty four to twenty one final.
Speaker 1: I still think they would have got fucked and not
Speaker 1: got in.
Speaker 2: But I think that I think what we have to
Speaker 2: decide is because I think I agree with you. But
Speaker 2: here's the difference. BYU getting into the playoff, they were
Speaker 2: gonna do a thing. Notre Dame could have actually won
Speaker 2: the national championship. So are we are is our goal
Speaker 2: to say, here are the teams that deserve it, or
Speaker 2: here are the teams that can actually win what what
Speaker 2: I thought it was supposed to be this clearly it's not.
Speaker 1: Well, that's okay, bigger picture March madness. We know Cinderella
Speaker 1: teams are never gonna win it, like real Cinderella teams.
Speaker 3: Right, what about NC State nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 1: They're in a part, They're in a Power five program.
Speaker 1: I'm talking real Cinderellas. Okay, a merrymount of wherever. Like
Speaker 1: little tiny schools are never going to win it, but
Speaker 1: we let them in and they do generate every once
Speaker 1: in a while Florida Gulf Coast, right, they get they
Speaker 1: they catch fire, and they made March fun. The problem
Speaker 1: is is that's why they want like jmus in two
Speaker 1: Lanes of the world in The problem is.
Speaker 3: Football, football and basketball are different sports.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm getting ready to say. It is
Speaker 1: a completely different element. Right, Virginia losing as a one
Speaker 1: seed for the first time ever, those things only happen
Speaker 1: once in a blue moon. These Game of five schools
Speaker 1: we're going to see an upset is not going to
Speaker 1: be this year. It might not be next year, we
Speaker 1: may see one. We do see it happen. We do
Speaker 1: see Northern Illinois of the world beat Notre Dames. It
Speaker 1: does happen. I just think that they try to make
Speaker 1: this comparison to say, oh, look it happens in basketball,
Speaker 1: when the sports are completely different.
Speaker 2: And then also I'll just keep complaining because I think
Speaker 2: they did such a bad job. We get Alabama Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: a game we've already seen two lane, Ole Miss, a
Speaker 2: game we've already seen. Ole Miss is gonna beat TWU Lane.
Speaker 2: And then we get ole Miss Georgia, a game we've
Speaker 2: already seen. What are they doing?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy for my Georgia future.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, Georgia's well positioned.
Speaker 2: They are They're gonna end up playing Ohio State in
Speaker 2: the semi final, and obviously when we get that late
Speaker 2: in the tournament, I mean, that's going to be a
Speaker 2: great game, there's no doubt.
Speaker 3: But the first round is terrible.
Speaker 2: They did a horrible job, and they basically said, b Yu,
Speaker 2: you're being punished because you lost to Texas Tech twice
Speaker 2: and Miami and Alabama's.
Speaker 1: Not being punished because they beat Georgia in the regular
Speaker 1: season at one time, I agree.
Speaker 2: I agree with you about Alabama because at some point
Speaker 2: it's got to count how you looked.
Speaker 3: Alabama had negative three rushing yards in that game on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Well, and again remember from going back to Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. SEC always wants to say, it's not
Speaker 1: so how you start, it's how you finish. Right. They
Speaker 1: don't want to penalize Alabama for that atrocious Florida State loss.
Speaker 1: Yet here we are penalizing Notre Dame for that. Miami
Speaker 1: and Texas A and m lost both very close losses
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, and they did outrace
Speaker 1: everybody that wasn't anybody.
Speaker 3: You know what, here's why I think Notre Dame should
Speaker 3: be in. I'm not even sure.
Speaker 2: We have twelve teams in college football that are playing well,
Speaker 2: that are healthy, that have a coach who's not leaving,
Speaker 2: and a coach who's not currently behind bars.
Speaker 3: You know, twelve of those.
Speaker 1: Are Michigan's not in. Okay, Michigan, but Michigan would have been.
Speaker 3: But Michigan would have been in if they beat Ohio State.
Speaker 3: Yes they would have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, very serious turn of events. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that whole thing.
Speaker 3: What are my thoughts?
Speaker 2: I can't I would get in too much trouble. I
Speaker 2: can't say what I think.
Speaker 1: Why it's insane. This is like like we have sex scandals,
Speaker 1: we have crazy scandals, but like I don't know. I
Speaker 1: did another show earlier and he asked me, and I said, okay.
Speaker 1: Like we've had plenty of coaches on air, talent, athletic
Speaker 1: directors whomever do really stupid ship like cheat on their
Speaker 1: spouses publicly, get caught, and they all generally get jobs again.
Speaker 1: Somewhere somebody forgets the players. NFL players get caught, things
Speaker 1: terrible atrocities have been committed, and these people still get jobs. Right, No,
Speaker 1: it's true. And I don't go to people's houses allegedly
Speaker 1: and threaten to kill them and then end up in jail. Like,
Speaker 1: how do you take a bad situation like you got
Speaker 1: caught cheating on your wife, three kids at home? You
Speaker 1: look like a jackass. Probably the athletic director new too,
Speaker 1: which is why he just got fired. You gotta got it.
Speaker 1: Just be like, all right, he might not even got fired.
Speaker 1: He might have maybe not right, like not a good look. No,
Speaker 1: mic a staffer who's young and so fat.
Speaker 2: They were looking to fire and because of his record. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think, but I agree with you. I think he
Speaker 2: would have been able to get another job if it
Speaker 2: hadn't been for what he did afterwards.
Speaker 1: Like as somebody who's super emotional, crazy, I get like
Speaker 1: fiery as well. How does that compile that quickly into
Speaker 1: like this is not good? He got caught cheating on
Speaker 1: his wife to the next headline, to the next and
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck's going on in ann Arbor?
Speaker 2: Wasn't one of the most one of the most interesting
Speaker 2: things to me about it was obviously there are people
Speaker 2: that were making cryptic tweets about this several weeks ago,
Speaker 2: so of course people knew this was coming. Somebody did.
Speaker 2: He reacted, the coach as if he didn't know. Why
Speaker 2: else would he blow up like that and go to
Speaker 2: somebody's house. He didn't know this was going to happen
Speaker 2: to him. That's the one thing I can't figure out.
Speaker 3: But I've seen.
Speaker 1: People wonder like men specifically in positions of power, they
Speaker 1: sometimes think they're untouchable. Maybe he was like, it's not
Speaker 1: gonna come out, It's not gonna come out.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe I'm just a cynical Well, I am a
Speaker 2: cynical asshole. But if Michigan had finished the year twelve
Speaker 2: and oho and won the Big Ten championship game, he
Speaker 2: would have been untouchable. They wouldn't be firing him right now.
Speaker 3: I believe that. I believe that, So I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's what.
Speaker 1: I think I got. I can't disagree with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's a crazy it's a crazy, crazy story.
Speaker 2: Be interesting to see who Michigan goes after. Well, but
Speaker 2: this is the problem again with colleagues, going back to
Speaker 2: what we talked about at the beginning of this college
Speaker 2: one needs to fix their schedule. Regardless of what you
Speaker 2: think of who they let into the tournament. I think
Speaker 2: they did a horrible job. I think they did a
Speaker 2: horrible job with the matchups.
Speaker 3: I think it's awful. But everyone can agree on this.
Speaker 2: They've got to fix their schedule, thing, schedule format, whatever
Speaker 2: you want to call it. All these coaches potentially leaving
Speaker 2: during the playoff, before the playoff, that's a problem.
Speaker 1: Well, not only that, Like, here's the thing, I put
Speaker 1: out a tweet about the bowl season and everybody's panicking
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I didn't say I like this, but
Speaker 1: this is the evolutionary process of the sport. It is unfortunate.
Speaker 1: Now it's college football playoffs or bust. Do I think
Speaker 1: it was soft that Notre Dame opted out. While they're
Speaker 1: gonna have a bunch of kids transferred, they're going to
Speaker 1: be pissed off. I've heard Marcus Freeman to the New
Speaker 1: York Jets or Giants, I mean, which is a crazy
Speaker 1: theory in itself.
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought Notre Dame overre I thought, I
Speaker 2: don't say overreacted, but they probably should have taken a
Speaker 2: breath and thought about it. Like, I definitely think that
Speaker 2: they're correct to be upset, but they did lose two games,
Speaker 2: and they did refuse.
Speaker 3: To join a conference. Yeah you gotta have it. You
Speaker 3: got a team, you got a team meeting. I really
Speaker 3: you guys. But the seniors should be the ones deciding
Speaker 3: if they're going to play in a bowl.
Speaker 1: They should, and that's fine. But here's where I realized,
Speaker 1: do you know who sponsors the Pop Tart Bowl? You
Speaker 1: know what channel it's going to be on. Fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars is what they expected revenue loss, not to Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: to ESPN, so they gave them the double middle finger,
Speaker 1: realizing that their brand, recognition, marketing, everything is going to
Speaker 1: be a bigger fu back than them playing in the game. Well,
Speaker 1: once I realized that, I was like, Okay, I kind
Speaker 1: of get it.
Speaker 2: I don't blame them, but you know, I think I
Speaker 2: think we just in. I think we let in too
Speaker 2: many teams that have no chance of winning.
Speaker 1: No, I get that, but okay, for example, in k State,
Speaker 1: Iowa State, right, both got fined by the Big Twelve
Speaker 1: for opting out of their bowl games. But here we
Speaker 1: have our new head coach is the offensive coordinator for
Speaker 1: a team in the College Football Playoff. He's got to
Speaker 1: try to retain some of the roster that he wants
Speaker 1: to retain. He's got to retain some of the coaches
Speaker 1: that are now realizing, Hey, I'm jobless. Do I go
Speaker 1: out and apply? Do I start calling they're looking for jobs?
Speaker 1: You're you're basically going to play these bowl games because
Speaker 1: of the transfer portal and coaching changes with a skeleton
Speaker 1: type crew, whether it's with players or other things. I
Speaker 1: think it's the right move and it's not the player's fault.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're soft I think it's just the
Speaker 1: new reality. So not only do they need to move
Speaker 1: dates for when coaches need to come in and bring
Speaker 1: in their players for a spring ball, they need to
Speaker 1: move the transfer portal. You should not be able to
Speaker 1: transfer before your bowl game if you want. If you
Speaker 1: want to keep the bowl games alive, you've got to
Speaker 1: make these changes. You want to keep the coaching staff intact,
Speaker 1: You've got to make these changes. I mean, I every
Speaker 1: time I look on k State's social calling clients in Manhattan,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it, shouldn't he be in college station, shouldn't
Speaker 1: even getting ready to coach the College of Well playoff?
Speaker 1: And then I see that the DC is going to Kentucky.
Speaker 1: And then I see, oh kse State took their tight
Speaker 1: ends coach. Oh shit, this guy's going here. Oh wait,
Speaker 1: Case State, It's defensive coordinator that I thought we were
Speaker 1: going to retain is now at Baylor. Like it is chaos.
Speaker 2: And that that's why even more I feel even more
Speaker 2: strongly schools like Notre Dame and BYU that are healthy,
Speaker 2: that have their coaching staff intact, that are they should
Speaker 2: be the ones playing in this tournament absolutely, instead of
Speaker 2: all these teams that have all these parts moving, and.
Speaker 1: Three teams are crazy to do out their head coaches
Speaker 1: full attention one for sure, And then I mean Texas
Speaker 1: A and M is Texas A and m is getting
Speaker 1: picked over from the coaching staff perspective. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on down there, but either people aren't happy
Speaker 1: or they become so relevant again that these guys are
Speaker 1: getting exorbitant job offers, and Mike Elco is gonna have
Speaker 1: to find replacements. If care is really Michigan.
Speaker 3: Can we agree that.
Speaker 2: By doing a collegeurble playoff, a twelve team playoff, we
Speaker 2: destroyed the ball season. The ball season's done forever, so
Speaker 2: we might as well go all the way and have
Speaker 2: a real playoff where it's not just about teams at
Speaker 2: least sixteen, probably more, and it's not.
Speaker 1: Just I think it's got to be thirty two.
Speaker 2: I think it's not just about Oh, we've got to
Speaker 2: let them in because they it's the nice thing to
Speaker 2: who gives a fuck about that? Let the best teams
Speaker 2: in and play the games. You've ruined the ball season,
Speaker 2: So let the real teams get in and play each other.
Speaker 2: What they're doing right now is just ridiculous. It's so
Speaker 2: stupid there.
Speaker 3: I don't I can't even like report on sharp Bowl
Speaker 3: game action.
Speaker 1: How I got here for you. It's too late though. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't text you. Cet bets and I took Clemson
Speaker 1: before the Penn State opt out start coming, and they're
Speaker 1: coming already.
Speaker 3: I look forward to that game. Should be exhilarating. I
Speaker 3: will say.
Speaker 2: I will say that we did seem it's kind of
Speaker 2: funny by the way that Clemson and Penn State are
Speaker 2: playing in.
Speaker 3: A bowl game.
Speaker 2: If that had if that had been announced in August,
Speaker 2: we would have thought it was like a quarterfinal, you know,
Speaker 2: but you.
Speaker 1: Guys would have I didn't. I didn't say. I said
Speaker 1: neither one of those tam is gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But that's okay.
Speaker 2: Well, the betting market had Penn State being very good.
Speaker 1: They also had Texas winning the national championship, and I
Speaker 1: catched my under and no playoff.
Speaker 3: That a bet.
Speaker 2: I will give you guys this. They played so Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: That's the game that Friday night. It's Oklahoma plus one
Speaker 2: against Alabama. Haven't really seen a lot on the Saturday
Speaker 2: game games. It's just not there's just very little interest.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure that'll change next weekend. But you
Speaker 2: know I've said this for years, these these games with
Speaker 2: these huge point spreads, that's not good for business.
Speaker 1: Well what about these like little mint bowl games that
Speaker 1: are coming up right Like you got Delaware first year
Speaker 1: in the FBS. They're going to a bowl game. How exciting?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not. No one's going to watch, no
Speaker 1: one cares, nobody cares, it sucks, nobody cares. I try
Speaker 1: to explain that to Marco when we're doing bet on
Speaker 1: It this week. He's like, wait, we need to be
Speaker 1: talking about the college football Plaoff. I was like, no
Speaker 1: one's even paying attention, no one's even betting it yet.
Speaker 2: Though right now, I mean, let's be honest about what
Speaker 2: the college football Playoff is. It's like a dei thing
Speaker 2: to make everybody's feelings feel good. When they get to
Speaker 2: the quarterfinals and the semifinals, then we can have the
Speaker 2: real games and then it'll be great and it'll be
Speaker 2: great for business. It will to Ohio State, Georgia. You're
Speaker 2: gonna have a quarterfinal Oregon, Texas Tech. That's a great game.
Speaker 2: Once we get through this ridiculous first round of nonsense,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be really good. It's gonna be really good
Speaker 2: for business. But why do we even have to sit
Speaker 2: through the first round of nonsense? Why not just make
Speaker 2: the whole thing good? That's what I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 2: NFL Week fifteen, they played the Raiders plus twelve and
Speaker 2: a half. Are the Eagles gonna do anything at quarterback?
Speaker 2: I does nobody else? Nobody else sees this but me?
Speaker 2: I guess uh?
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: John Hoagland, our producer, was hammered on the way home
Speaker 1: from the casino in Detroit in April, and he was
Speaker 1: telling our other producer, who's an Eagles fan, that Caleb
Speaker 1: Williams is better than Jalen Hurts. And I am now
Speaker 1: beginning to think maybe he wasn't that drunk.
Speaker 3: I love John Hoagland, our producer. He's a fine young man.
Speaker 1: They played He's like really quiet till you give him alcohol.
Speaker 1: It's pretty funny.
Speaker 3: Coach Vrabel won't like it. But they did play Buffalo
Speaker 3: pick them.
Speaker 1: I also like Buffalo.
Speaker 3: Buffalo is now minus one here.
Speaker 1: I think what I think one though, So it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter that the line moved right.
Speaker 2: No, there's no such thing as an NFL game ending
Speaker 2: on one. That's impossible. I think people don't really understand.
Speaker 2: A lot of people have asked, why is Buffalo favored? Well,
Speaker 2: first of all, I don't consider minus one favored. I
Speaker 2: don't consider that favored.
Speaker 1: That's just like because the best team that the Patriots
Speaker 1: have beaten is named the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who were
Speaker 1: seven and six.
Speaker 3: They won at Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Actually, okay, well besides that at Buffalo back in October.
Speaker 1: I think that the Jets, the Saints, I mean, come on, Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Has been been very good for a long time. They've
Speaker 2: been in big games for many years, big playoff games
Speaker 2: for many years, big primetime games for many years. The
Speaker 2: betting public just trusts Buffalo more they trust Alan Moore.
Speaker 2: I would say that New England is better than Buffalo
Speaker 2: everywhere except for quarterback. I'd rather have New England's coaching staff.
Speaker 2: I think New England's better than them everywhere on the field.
Speaker 2: But I think Allen's the best player in the league.
Speaker 2: Could he just go full you know, Allen mode?
Speaker 3: Maybe? But they did bet Buffalo minus one.
Speaker 2: They bet Carolina minus two and a half at New Orleans,
Speaker 2: and then they bet the Rams.
Speaker 3: I thought that was kind of interesting. They bet the
Speaker 3: Rams minus five and five and a half, and now
Speaker 3: the Rams are a six point favorite against a pretty
Speaker 3: good Detroit team that has three extra days off after
Speaker 3: being Dallas last Thursday.
Speaker 1: So the Rams team that I saw in Carolina not
Speaker 1: the Rams team I saw in Arizona.
Speaker 2: Don't you think that Philip Rivers is really cool? You know,
Speaker 2: he's like, he's got like.
Speaker 1: A I cannot until you just said that, I didn't
Speaker 1: even look at the game. I'm gonna add the river's
Speaker 1: off his couch.
Speaker 2: He's living on a farm in like probably Alabama, I
Speaker 2: would assume, because I think that's where he's from.
Speaker 3: And he's raising his son is like a.
Speaker 2: Stud high school quarterback, and he's got like thirty kids,
Speaker 2: so he's raising like a whole he's raising like a
Speaker 2: whole generation of quarterbacks. And then meanwhile it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know what, Philip, do you want to just come
Speaker 2: blake quarterback on Sunday?
Speaker 3: Yeah? What the hell? I don't know what's gonna happen
Speaker 3: at Seattle. That's not exactly an easy place to go play.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean that line's moved.
Speaker 2: Up from ten and a half to thirteen and a half.
Speaker 2: If you want to call that sharp.
Speaker 1: Actually, fourteen, for a second I saw on the Odds
Speaker 1: logic screen and I thought not for half a second, okay,
Speaker 1: at fourteen. At fourteen, I can know by fourteen was gone.
Speaker 3: He's forty four years old.
Speaker 2: No, he hasn't played a game in five The last
Speaker 2: time he was playing. The last time he played in
Speaker 2: the people were wearing little pieces of cloth over their
Speaker 2: face and pretending it made a difference in the postgame
Speaker 2: press conferences. That's how long it's been. That's how long
Speaker 2: it's been since this guy played quarterback. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: it's but I just think Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3: Is really cool.
Speaker 2: And they did I will say they did. They did
Speaker 2: hit us on the Vikings. I thought that made some sense.
Speaker 2: The Vikings that, for some reason is the Sunday night
Speaker 2: game when there's actually some pretty good games this week.
Speaker 2: But they took Vikings plus six and a half. We're
Speaker 2: down to five and a half. Haven't seen anything on
Speaker 2: the Monday night game yet. I'll give bullpicks as we
Speaker 2: get closer to the games. It's hard to do it
Speaker 2: out in advance. Didn't see anything on the side in
Speaker 2: Army Navy. Did see money on the under, but they
Speaker 2: bet the under every year, and I haven't seen anything
Speaker 2: in the bowl game Saturday night. So the Bowl games
Speaker 2: are always tricky for us guys. It's hard to give
Speaker 2: out those plays. It's hard to give a play on
Speaker 2: what's today, December eleventh for a game it's going to
Speaker 2: be played on December thirty first, and the line's gonna
Speaker 2: move by ten points because no one's playing or coaching
Speaker 2: in the game.
Speaker 3: It's tough, but we'll do it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get out ahead of the information because
Speaker 1: I will agree. I think Bowl season is the one
Speaker 1: time where information is far better than the best of
Speaker 1: the number.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you can, if you can get
Speaker 2: that information that all these players are opting out, coach
Speaker 2: is opting out, coach has recently been arrested, coach has
Speaker 2: recently been arrested and is currently incarcerated.
Speaker 3: If you can, if you can get that information, you're good.
Speaker 3: You're good.
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's all I got. We got two
Speaker 1: questions from the mailbag. I'm gonna move to next week
Speaker 1: because we forgot to tweet out the question tweet and
Speaker 1: so we only got two. But I'm gonna move them
Speaker 1: because we're way past on time because we've been bullshitting
Speaker 1: for far too long.
Speaker 3: I thought that was I thought that was the point
Speaker 3: of the show.
Speaker 1: That is about committees and their nonsense. John Murray, you're
Speaker 1: the best. I'll see you. Last call Sunday morning with AERFC.
Speaker 2: Got about that, okay, rested, last lots and lot