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<v Speaker 1>It's night Time with Dan ray On de Fleas Boston

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<v Speaker 1>New Video.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have not checked in the last hour or so,

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<v Speaker 2>but I believe that the election results have been pretty

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<v Speaker 2>clear to most people. I think everyone, including Vice President

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<v Speaker 2>Harris and President Biden, have acknowledged that President former President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is now the president elect. He will be the

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<v Speaker 2>forty seventh president, inaugurated on January twentieth, twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>becoming only the second president to serve a second non

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<v Speaker 2>consecutive term, the first being Grover Cleveland back in the

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<v Speaker 2>late nineteenth century. The resurrection of Donald Trump rising from

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<v Speaker 2>a phoenix was an extraordinary, a feat I had acknowledged

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<v Speaker 2>and I will continue to acknowledge that I did not

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<v Speaker 2>think that Donald Trump could win a national election. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know that there are many of you out there

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<v Speaker 2>who are Trump loyal Trump supporters who will never forgive

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<v Speaker 2>me for doubting that. But I have an obligation to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what I believe. And I also am a

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<v Speaker 2>big enough person to admit that I underestimated him, as

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<v Speaker 2>did the Democratic Party. The Democrats, I believe, felt that

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden was a weakened president and that by forcing

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden out of the nomination, which he had won

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<v Speaker 2>with fourteen million votes. They persuaded him to resign. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure there was tremendous pressure on Biden after Biden said

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<v Speaker 2>only God money came down and told me to resign.

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<v Speaker 2>When I resigned, and obviously a more powerful figure came down,

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<v Speaker 2>a former House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, who told him to resign,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think Chuck Schumer added to it, as did

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<v Speaker 2>George Clooney and probably Barack Obama. So President Biden, who

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<v Speaker 2>will not go down in history as one of our

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<v Speaker 2>great presidents, stepped aside. And the Democrats thought they had

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<v Speaker 2>had a great convention, it was full of joy and

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<v Speaker 2>happiness and spirit in Chicago, and that they had dodged

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<v Speaker 2>the bullet of losing to Donald Trump because Vice President

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<v Speaker 2>Harris would be a much more formidable foe. Well, it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't work out that way. Now the Democrats, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked to some are really thinking, have we put ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>into a box. There's been a lot of criticism of

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Party. I've watched CNN this week and I've

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<v Speaker 2>watched people like Van Jones and a variety of the

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic pundits just talk about problems. Now, some of them

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it in terms of, well, these are the

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<v Speaker 2>horrific suburban white women who did not turn out in force.

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<v Speaker 2>They they blame everybody but themselves. Well, one Democrat who

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of looked in the mirror, I think. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>And and the image that that Seth Moulten was looking

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<v Speaker 2>at is not necessarily himself, but he was looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the image of the Democratic Party. He was quoted in

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Times yesterday saying that let me, let

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<v Speaker 2>me quote this accurately. Uh he he was very concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about issues. Uh and he pointed out uh he he

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<v Speaker 2>basically said that he was blaming his party for being

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<v Speaker 2>out of touch with the American people. Uh And he

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<v Speaker 2>cited some transgender issues. And this was Moulton's quote. Quote well,

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<v Speaker 2>out of the Times. Let me give it to you

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<v Speaker 2>in complete context, he said. Bernie Sanders was quoted. Then

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<v Speaker 2>it said Representative Seth Moulton of Massachusetts, who was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the two dozen Democrats who sought the party's presidential

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<v Speaker 2>nomination in twenty twenty, suggested the party should shift his

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<v Speaker 2>approach on transgender issues. According to Moulton, quote, Democrats spend

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<v Speaker 2>way too much time trying not to offend anyone, rather

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<v Speaker 2>than being brutally honest about the challenges many Americans face. Unquote,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Moulton said, he continues, I have two little girls.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want them getting run over on a playing

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<v Speaker 2>field by a male or formerly male athlete. But as

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<v Speaker 2>a Democrat, I'm supposed to be afraid to say that now. Immediately,

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<v Speaker 2>there were comments made by other Democrats, including Promila Jaiapaul,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the members of the squad. She's the chair

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<v Speaker 2>of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Of course, she said democrat

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<v Speaker 2>should not give in too prejudice and misinformation. Notice she

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<v Speaker 2>labels immediately what Seth Moulten said as prejudice and misinformation.

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<v Speaker 2>She compared the fight for transgender rights to the struggle

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<v Speaker 2>of a gay marriage, in which public opinions shifted quickly. Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to create space for people's fears and let

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<v Speaker 2>them get to know people unquote, said missus Giapaul, who

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<v Speaker 2>described herself as the proud mom of a daughter who

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<v Speaker 2>happens to be transd again, she has every right to

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<v Speaker 2>be an advocate for her daughter and for members of

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<v Speaker 2>the trans community, and there should be no one who

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<v Speaker 2>discriminates against members of the trans community. However, the point

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<v Speaker 2>that Molten raised was a political point, and that is,

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<v Speaker 2>has the Democratic Party put themselves in a position where

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<v Speaker 2>they have to be so right, so perfectly politically correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Now as a concert quins of all of that, we

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<v Speaker 2>reached out to Congressman Moulton this afternoon and I did

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<v Speaker 2>not speak with him, but I spoke with his press

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<v Speaker 2>person and she told me that he was not available,

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<v Speaker 2>that they were getting a lot of blowback from the

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<v Speaker 2>party from certain segments of the party. However, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that the questions that he was raising goes far beyond

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<v Speaker 2>transgender issues. Okay, his own chief of staff, whose name

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<v Speaker 2>is Matt Chiliac, has, according to The Boston Globe tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>resigned as chief of staff of Seth Moulton. Congressman Moulton.

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<v Speaker 2>The Boston Herald late tonight reached out to Moulton's office

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<v Speaker 2>for comments and they said, we're not commenting on personnel

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<v Speaker 2>matters office policy. Chiliac on election night posted on social media, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>millions of Americans today showed that they hate immigrants and

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<v Speaker 2>transgender people more than they fear fascism. Unquote, mister Chiliac

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<v Speaker 2>that is walking past the graveyard. Okay. It is also

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute misrepresentation of people who voted for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>The Democrats have, in my opinion, focused on issues which

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<v Speaker 2>are not of great importance to the people who elected

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump. All the exit polls show just as James

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<v Speaker 2>Carville once said, it's the economy, stupid, It's the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm addressing this to mister chiliac, stupid, it's the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>People in different parts of the country who have different

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<v Speaker 2>points of view don't hate people, Okay, because you saw

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<v Speaker 2>that Donald Trump had increased the vote that he received

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<v Speaker 2>from Hispanics, from Blacks, from minorities across the board. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>how Donald Trump does it. He is able to reach people.

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<v Speaker 2>He's able to reach people, and Seth Moulten basically was

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<v Speaker 2>telling what I think is a hard truth. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>the only Democrat that I have talked to who have

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<v Speaker 2>expressed that truth. So the question I want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from you, that I want to ask you is your

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<v Speaker 2>reaction to what Malton has to say. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about what you feel about transgenders. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>the point. The point is Moulton has basically said we

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<v Speaker 2>as a party have lost our way. That's what he's

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<v Speaker 2>really saying, that we have no longer focusing on the

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<v Speaker 2>issues that are most important to the American voters. And

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<v Speaker 2>that is proven by what happened on Tuesday. They lost

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<v Speaker 2>four Senate seats, so they went from being a holding

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<v Speaker 2>the Senate by two votes fifty one to forty nine

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<v Speaker 2>to now losing the Senate fifty three to forty seven

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<v Speaker 2>by six votes. I believe that the many of these

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<v Speaker 2>House races that are now still up in the air

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<v Speaker 2>are in Arizona and California. They're not all that close,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're not like you know races that are hanging

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<v Speaker 2>by two or three votes. They are they just only

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<v Speaker 2>have fifty percent of the vote, sixty percent of the vote. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know those districts to know how representative that

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<v Speaker 2>vote that is accounted is, or if they're waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>a community of great strength for one candidate or the other.

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<v Speaker 2>But I predict that at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans not only will occupy the White House and

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<v Speaker 2>also control the Senate, but they'll also hold on to

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<v Speaker 2>their lead in the House. And so as has often

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<v Speaker 2>happened with losing parties, political parties. Someone has to say,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Seth Molten Senate and there's a whole bunch of issues.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a whole bunch of issues that the Democrats have

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<v Speaker 2>jumped on to uh symbolic issues, which are you know,

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<v Speaker 2>politically correct, you know, cutting police bail funds for people

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<v Speaker 2>who have been arrested for burning down police stations. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not what the average American is interested in. And as

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<v Speaker 2>they say, I'm not here to discuss transgender rights, I

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<v Speaker 2>will tell you that Seth Molten raised the issue of

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<v Speaker 2>he does not want his daughters playing on a on

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<v Speaker 2>a high school field. Look, when kids are small, when

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<v Speaker 2>they're young, I should say, when they're when they're little, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they have coit's soccer, because no one's going to get hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Five year old kindergarten and first grade kids play soccer together,

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<v Speaker 2>the boys and girls. No big deal. Okay, But when

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden you have a daughter on a

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<v Speaker 2>high school soccer team or on a high school swim team. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, uh, a transgender female because

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<v Speaker 2>inappropriate now is going to be on that team, and

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<v Speaker 2>that transgender female is you know, six ' three and

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<v Speaker 2>has a much larger body mass. There could be some injuries,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what Malton is saying. He personalized it in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of his two daughters. He may not have picked

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<v Speaker 2>the right issue. Maybe he did, but there's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of issues where the Democrats have been pushed so

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<v Speaker 2>far to the left by the progressors that it cost

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<v Speaker 2>them the reelection of Donald Trump, and it probably cost

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<v Speaker 2>them the Senate. I mean Bob Casey, three term senator

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<v Speaker 2>in Pennsylvania, Democrat, his father was a senator before him.

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<v Speaker 2>That seat now has been won by a businessman Republican

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<v Speaker 2>named Dave McCormick by a very thin margin. West Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to lose that seat anyway. That's become

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<v Speaker 2>a Republican state. That was the canary in the coal mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Pardon the metaphor, but it's really it really is the

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<v Speaker 2>canary the coal mine. In Ohio, Sharon Brown is lof lo.

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<v Speaker 2>John Tester has lost in Montana. And that's what that

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<v Speaker 2>is what Seth Molten and I say hats off to

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<v Speaker 2>Seth Moulten because the Democratic Party has to get their

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<v Speaker 2>act back together. Here's the numbers. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Those lines are full. Six one seven, nine

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<v Speaker 2>three one ten thirty. Both of those lines six one, seven, nine, three,

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<v Speaker 2>really want to express your opinion, take advantage of those

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<v Speaker 2>get it going right after this break on Nightside. Coming

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<v Speaker 2>back right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Seth Molten, in comments to The Boston

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<v Speaker 2>Herald late today, Uh said this quote, I stand firmly

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<v Speaker 2>in my belief for the need for competitive women's sports

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<v Speaker 2>to put limits on the participation of those with the

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<v Speaker 2>unfair physical advantages that come with being born male. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also a strong supporter of the civil rights of all Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>including transgender rights. I will fight, as I always have,

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<v Speaker 2>for the rights and safety of all citizens. These two

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<v Speaker 2>ideas are not mutually exclusive, and we can even disagree

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<v Speaker 2>on them. Yet there are many who, shouting from the

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<v Speaker 2>extreme left corners of social media, believe I have failed

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<v Speaker 2>the unspoken Democratic Party purity test. We did not lose

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty four election because of any trans person

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<v Speaker 2>or issue. We lost in part because we shame and

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<v Speaker 2>belittle too many opinions held by too many voters, and

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<v Speaker 2>that needs to stop. Let's have these debates now, determine

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<v Speaker 2>a new strategy for our party since our existing one failed,

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<v Speaker 2>and then unite to oppose the Trump agenda or ever

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<v Speaker 2>it imperil's American values. And I would tend to agree

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<v Speaker 2>Moulton has has hit something here. So let's see what

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've lost our. Carmon says, I agree totally

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<v Speaker 3>different It's very different from accepting and promoting something. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's anyone asking you to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what the problem is. They're promoting these

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think they're going beyond that. I think what

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to all these these commentators on CNN

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<v Speaker 2>this week that the black men who voted and didn't

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's like, look, you know you vote for If

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm gonna do. Yeah, I mean she had all

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, they have these entertainers who I have no

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Springsteen, He's a great singer, okay, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be influenced by Bruce Springsteen. Beyonce? Why should

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift's music, but I don't have to like oh

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<v Speaker 2>if Taylor Swift said this and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats lifestyle, I can listen to her music and not

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have no idea what her lifestyle is. So

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm just saying you don't. You know, I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 3>but here's the here's the other thing. And this just

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<v Speaker 3>Massachusetts Democratic, whole life, said to me, I can't vote

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<v Speaker 6>That was a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, there's a lot of reasons you had

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<v Speaker 2>to vot. There's a lot of reasons not to have

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<v Speaker 2>voted for Hillary Clinton. But I understand, I understand the

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<v Speaker 3>To me, Kamala Harris was Hillary Clinton right down to

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know about that. I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>You don't agree with me, I'm just saying that was

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<v Speaker 2>I look, I think they're both very smart women. I

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<v Speaker 2>disagree with them on a lot of issues. They're obviously

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<v Speaker 2>dedicated to a philosophy of political philosophy that basically, the

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<v Speaker 2>government knows best and the government will take care of us,

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<v Speaker 2>and just fall in line with what the government says.

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<v Speaker 2>And that that that notion was out of style in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen, and it was very out of style in

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<v Speaker 3>And here's the other thing in terms of women not

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<v Speaker 3>voting for Kamala. One was the sports issue, transgender women

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<v Speaker 3>in sports, girls' sports. But the other thing you had

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Clinton out the campaigning for this is a woman

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<v Speaker 3>who's supposed to be pro women. I mean, he was harassed.

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<v Speaker 3>And then on the.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not. I don't think he's influencing too many people.

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<v Speaker 2>I lean, I got to run. I thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a good night news.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a great one. I got Anthony and Woolster,

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<v Speaker 2>I got Mark, I got Tom and I got Patrick,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got room for you. The only line that's

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<v Speaker 2>open right now, save your fingers, dial six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. That is we'll get you in. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to change topics at eleven o'clock, going to go the

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<v Speaker 2>twentieth hour of the week. Give you a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about someone who you would like to highlight the

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<v Speaker 2>service that they provided to this country as a member

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<v Speaker 2>of the military. It's Veteran's Day on Monday. That'll give

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<v Speaker 2>doing tonight, argue about issues. Back on Night's side right.

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<v Speaker 1>After this, Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, back to the phone. It's gonna go to Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>and Worcester. Anthony, you are next to a KNIGHTSI go

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<v Speaker 7>Hi, Dan, and thank you, and I'll be as brief

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<v Speaker 6>You go to wat to.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't disagree with what the Congresson said. I just

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<v Speaker 7>think the timing of it is a little questionable. And

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<v Speaker 7>I was a Democrat my whole life. I got out

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<v Speaker 7>of the party five six years ago because of some

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<v Speaker 7>of the things that the party was in, the direction

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<v Speaker 7>it was going, and the principle of what the Congresson

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<v Speaker 7>said I agree with, and I think his majority of

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<v Speaker 7>his district would agree with. What I have a problem with, Dan,

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<v Speaker 7>is the timing of it. You know, the you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the idea that you know, he's coming up and saying

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<v Speaker 7>the election. He saw and he was one that promoted

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<v Speaker 7>the democracy was on the ballot. Democracy wasn't on the ballot, Dan,

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<v Speaker 7>the economy was on the ballot. The safety of our

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<v Speaker 7>it's a little hypocritical for the congressman to come out

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<v Speaker 7>after he's seen the results, not just across the country,

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<v Speaker 7>but in particular Massachusetts, Dan, I mean, there is major

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<v Speaker 7>strides made on the Republican side. And I'm an independent now,

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<v Speaker 7>so I can say that.

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<v Speaker 4>So let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 2>You Okay, First of all, I assume, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I know Seth Malted pretty well, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>a straight shooter. He's a guy who I think is

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<v Speaker 2>a really honorable individual. You know, served in the military,

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<v Speaker 2>in the military in the war zones. And so he's

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<v Speaker 2>more than paid his dues. Maybe all along he has

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<v Speaker 2>harbored apprehensions and construmans. I don't know that I can

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<v Speaker 2>go back and find an article where Seth Molten a

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<v Speaker 2>month ago or six months ago said yeah, I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that transgender athletes should compete in women's high school or

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<v Speaker 2>college sports. That would be hypocritical. Maybe he never I

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<v Speaker 2>suspect he's never addressed that specifically, and that he now

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<v Speaker 2>is saying to himself, Hey, this is an albatross where

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<v Speaker 2>on my party's neck at this point. Witness the results

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday. It may be highly acceptable in Massachusetts, and

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<v Speaker 2>it may hurt him politically in Massachusetts, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's looking at the larger picture of what's the future

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<v Speaker 2>of the Democratic Party. That's my take on it. I

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<v Speaker 2>could be dead wrong, and if you can say to me, hey, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>six months ago there was a piece in the Boston

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<v Speaker 2>Globe and he was all in on you know, transgender

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<v Speaker 2>athletes participating in high school athletics.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, then I don't. I'm not saying I have specific facts.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe someone else does. Someone else does it with

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<v Speaker 7>It's it's just, you know, as we're using analogy in sports,

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<v Speaker 7>the Monday Morning quarterback. He's been in office for quite

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<v Speaker 7>a while, and I have no I've only met the

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<v Speaker 7>man once in my life at a convention in Worcester,

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<v Speaker 7>but I would just say that the timing of this

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<v Speaker 7>of him saying this, I think it doesn't pass the

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<v Speaker 7>small test, but I'll let you go to.

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<v Speaker 2>The Thanks Anthony, I appreciate you call. Have a great

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<v Speaker 2>weekend and joy veterans say weekend, Thanks Anthony. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>go next, Mark and Alston Market next on nightside.

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<v Speaker 8>I got I. I think there's a lot of truth

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<v Speaker 8>I work at a supermarket and h we wind up

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I've done that myself. To be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>done that myself, Mark.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think that to regain traction, the National Democratic

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<v Speaker 8>Party has to rededicate itself to what are known as

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think those are the areas where the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats always do well.

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<v Speaker 8>Couldn't agree with you more, but I I'd be the

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<v Speaker 8>amount of fundraising appeals I get in my mailbox is

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<v Speaker 8>just so over the top. I mean, it can be

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<v Speaker 8>very difficult to communicate to the Democratic Party establishment that

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<v Speaker 8>you don't have a lot of money to give. What

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<v Speaker 2>But well, that's a good point too, Mark, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're re lying. Look, I believe that the Harris

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<v Speaker 2>campaign spent one point two billion dollars. Some it just

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<v Speaker 2>they had more money than Donald Trump. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't money. It wasn't like Trump. The Republicans outspeed the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>The point you're making is an excellent point, Mark. The

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats had they were a wash in money. But what

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<v Speaker 2>message did they use that money to deliver? That's the

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<v Speaker 2>question that Moulton's raising. You've hit the nail right on

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<v Speaker 2>the head. Mark. I got to keep running here because

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<v Speaker 2>they got tack lines. Outstanding phone call tonight, Mark, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that you were right on the money tonight. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much, have a great night, good night. There

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<v Speaker 2>we goes Okay, Tom, Hey, Tom, welcome back, Tom and

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<v Speaker 2>the Philippines go right ahead, Tom.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you know I used to be a staunch Democrat.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm aware of being in a labor being in a

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<v Speaker 9>labor union. I went to the convention in eighty eight

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<v Speaker 9>as a delegate. First time I ever ran Ward ten mission. Hell,

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<v Speaker 9>first time I ever ran for to be a delegate

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<v Speaker 9>in the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was we're a delegate a delegate for Doucacas,

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<v Speaker 2>I assume in eighty eight or was at the state.

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<v Speaker 4>Convention convention field.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay, Rob, you fix Tom's line for me, Rob, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because just let him know that that was a horrible connection.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Patrick in the district of Columbia

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<v Speaker 2>where all the action is Patrick, how are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the action is there right. Well, we had this election, right,

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<v Speaker 4>so it was safe for me to come out from

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<v Speaker 4>underneath the bed.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna have that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And from what I experience in my in my world

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<v Speaker 4>and how I do things, is are people who are

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<v Speaker 4>working people, and they have businesses, and they work for companies,

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<v Speaker 4>and they have goods and services that are produced and transferred,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's all sorts of things that that different people

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<v Speaker 4>do a lot of different things. They just can't afford

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<v Speaker 4>to pay for what the Democrats want because it's not

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<v Speaker 4>what they want, and they don't want to pay for

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<v Speaker 4>something that they don't want, not just once, they don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to do it twice. And I think that's how

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<v Speaker 4>we came to Donald Trump. We paid for it. We're

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<v Speaker 4>paying for it. Like in Massachusetts with the with the immigrants, right,

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<v Speaker 4>you know you keep bringing them in here, you're helping

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<v Speaker 4>the pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in Massachusetts we're now two billion dollars in the

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<v Speaker 2>hole because of the migration. Now, I know a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people are going to say, well, that's because Governor

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<v Speaker 2>Abbott has sent them out of Texas. Well, did you

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<v Speaker 2>expect Texas was going to keep them there? By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that today I heard somewhere that Mayor Adams

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<v Speaker 2>in New York has decided to stop giving migrants EBT cards.

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<v Speaker 4>We can't afford it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I understand that thinking. But yeah, matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>let me double check that before. Let me see. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, one of the things you're concerned about is

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<v Speaker 2>civil defense, yes, and how we are falling behind here

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<v Speaker 2>we should be. Is either party addressing those concerns that

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<v Speaker 2>you have.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it is a taboo term here in Washington, D C.

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<v Speaker 4>And while I got my eye on the clock real quick,

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<v Speaker 4>while you're looking at that. If you remember when Trump

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<v Speaker 4>went to Capitol Hill to stop the the the border bill,

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<v Speaker 4>let me just call it the border bill, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>went in there. You know, now I'm a bad build

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<v Speaker 4>and then we're not going to do it. We're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to do it. Okay. If that bill would have

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<v Speaker 4>gone through the Department of Homeland Security would have benefited

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<v Speaker 4>from that totally, would you agree there.

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<v Speaker 2>And so forth?

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<v Speaker 4>And therefore it would go directly to the Department of

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<v Speaker 4>Big Titles and he'll get nothing but a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>big titles and you're not going to get anything done.

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<v Speaker 4>The reason why we don't say civil defense is because

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<v Speaker 4>civil defense is civilians and you don't get registered with

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<v Speaker 4>the Department of Big Titles. You are a citizen doing

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<v Speaker 4>your citizenship, Okay, and that's that's it. That's it in

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<v Speaker 4>a nutshell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. By the way, I've just checked out. Mayor Adams

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<v Speaker 2>in New York has apparently ended the EBT cards or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, food stamp programs for migrants. So that's an

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<v Speaker 2>effort that on his part. He's saying, it's basically it's uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's killing New York City. So that's a

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<v Speaker 2>big step. I mean, it's interesting because Donald Trump gets elected,

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<v Speaker 2>he hasn't been sworn into office yet. Uh and already

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor Adams has has has has has reversed himself. It

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<v Speaker 2>was only a few months ago that Adams decided to

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<v Speaker 2>make EBT cards available to migrants, and I think they would.

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<v Speaker 4>Be given three reaching into our back pockets, they can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, it's three hundred and fifty dollars a week. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that was for a family of four.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have to do some work on this over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>But and I think we do the same thing, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way here in Massachusetts. That's a big part of

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<v Speaker 2>it as well. So yeah, we're very generous people. We're

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<v Speaker 2>very generous people. Patrick.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we pay for once, we pay for once, but

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<v Speaker 4>now you're making us pay for it twice, and you

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<v Speaker 4>keep exasperating the problem. That's why we'd yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir Patrick has always I appreciated hearing from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great weekend. Okay, stay safe down in there

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<v Speaker 2>in in DC.

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<v Speaker 4>I will I'll keep my doors locked. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the other thing too is I think maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>maybe this inauguration will will be less controversial, and the

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<v Speaker 2>run up to the inauguration will be less controversial than

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<v Speaker 2>it was four years ago, because.

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<v Speaker 4>It has to, because he won the popular vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, and I you know again, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that number is still holding. I'll check that during the

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<v Speaker 2>news as well. Patrick, Thank you, sir, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night. Let me get one more in here if

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<v Speaker 2>I can. Before we got to we have to take

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<v Speaker 2>a break. All of a sudden, we lost Tom in

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<v Speaker 2>the Philippines. If Tom wants to call back, we'll put

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<v Speaker 2>him to the head of the line, Rob. If Tom's

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<v Speaker 2>still listening, the lines that are opened six one, seven, nine, three,

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<v Speaker 2>one ten thirty or six one, seven, two, five, four

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Mike and Beverley, Mike next on nightside.

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<v Speaker 10>Go right ahead, Hey, can you hand men?

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<v Speaker 2>I can hear you find sir, Go right ahead. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're in congressman, You're in Molten's district, right if

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm not mistaken, yes.

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<v Speaker 11>Sir, I am, okay, I'll never even once.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, you never done in my area.

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<v Speaker 11>But I know I heard about the thing today and

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<v Speaker 11>heard the city Salem councilor says that, uh, I wanted

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<v Speaker 11>he should fight, get fired and resign.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 10>Like the Democratic Party is out of their mind. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 10>he spoke out for the situation.

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<v Speaker 12>But Kamala Harris from all of that situations when they

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<v Speaker 12>years ago, before she even became a Joe Biden uh

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<v Speaker 12>in California, you know, And that's.

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<v Speaker 10>What having that situation. As far as the Erica Adams

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<v Speaker 10>saying yes he did, he kept the money out. Todaymar

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<v Speaker 10>Healley's not gonna win. Like, I don't understand the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 11>They're out of their mind. And why are they like

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<v Speaker 11>already on a ramp page to fight Trump on They

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<v Speaker 11>lost their election over a final me uh, the border

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<v Speaker 11>and crime. That's why they lost election.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I would agree with I would agree with you

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<v Speaker 2>and that. I'm certainly we could find some polls which

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<v Speaker 2>would support that. But that's a pretty good trifecta the economy, immigration,

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<v Speaker 2>and crime. And I also think that that on some

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<v Speaker 2>of the issues that the Democrats were talking about. Democracy,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think, according to the polls, did much for

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats. And I don't know that abortion paid off

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<v Speaker 2>the political dividends that the Democrats had hoped for so.

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<v Speaker 11>I know, because they were pushing that area. Dan, that's

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<v Speaker 11>all I have to do. Because she said on that

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<v Speaker 11>eleven o'clock shows it was there something that she could

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<v Speaker 11>do differently, she says, no, she was done after that.

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<v Speaker 11>What she said on that view show once she said

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<v Speaker 11>that it was.

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<v Speaker 6>A yeah, well I I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think what she said was there's there's nothing that comes

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<v Speaker 2>to mind, and that became sort of a metaphor for

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<v Speaker 2>the campaign, which was which was tough. Mike. I hate

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<v Speaker 2>to do this to you, but I gotta go. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm past my break. I took you because it once

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<v Speaker 2>you have to wait through the commercials, but I got

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<v Speaker 2>commercials coming up, and without commercials, you and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>get a chance to talk on the radio, my friend,

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks for the call. I think you made your

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<v Speaker 2>points well and we will talk next week.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, try and get Momory Haley.

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<v Speaker 10>I like to talk to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure she'd love to talk to you. Mike. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you got it right night. Good night. You've got a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of lines here, let's fill them up. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be done at eleven at eleven o'clock, As I told you,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to the twentieth hour and we

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<v Speaker 2>will take a break from politics, and we will in

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<v Speaker 2>the twentieth hour tonight ask you to remember a member

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<v Speaker 2>of your family, a member of your community, member of

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<v Speaker 2>your extended family who served in the military. And they

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<v Speaker 2>do not have to have been you know, a war hero,

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<v Speaker 2>or just anyone who served. I think it's Veterans Day

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<v Speaker 2>and it is the day we honor veterans. On Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>I will not be on the air until Monday night,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's do that tonight. I think there couldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>a more appropriate way to end the week, particularly a

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<v Speaker 2>week in which we just held an election, an extraordinary

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<v Speaker 2>moment in time every four years, it's all. It's amazing

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<v Speaker 2>to me how well and how how how easily this

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<v Speaker 2>election went. I was fearful that we were going to

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<v Speaker 2>end up with a very close election and that we

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<v Speaker 2>would have people on both sides angry. It seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me like people on both sides are resigned to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly the Republicans are happy. I know the Democrats are frustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we're talking about Seth Moulton's comments. If you'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to chime in on whether you agree or disagree

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<v Speaker 2>with Seth Moulton doesn't matter whether a Republican Democrat are independent.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a couple of lines six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty or six months seven nine three one ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming right back on Night's Side after this brief break.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Light Side Studios on w b Z, the news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go to Vinnie in Randall. Vinnie next

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<v Speaker 2>on NIGHTSID.

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<v Speaker 6>Go right ahead, h hi Yan, thanks for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 6>It's my first time calling you.

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<v Speaker 2>Give you a quick run of applause in my VIC

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<v Speaker 2>studio audience here is always welcome very much.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why I said it was first time, so I

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<v Speaker 6>could hear the applause. I need something.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing wrong with that at this point? What you thought?

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<v Speaker 6>I was thinking about, you know, Seth Moulden and the

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<v Speaker 6>transgender stuff. And my thought is, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know what we should do. I don't know how we

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<v Speaker 6>should handle people with transgender But to me, what's missing

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<v Speaker 6>is we're not talking to transgender people and asking like what.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you need? You know, having men people women with

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<v Speaker 4>male bodies playing against women doesn't sound fair to me,

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<v Speaker 4>but to say, well, you can't do that, so therefore

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<v Speaker 4>your only option is to be the other thing, when

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<v Speaker 4>that's not what they are either. You know, a transgender

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<v Speaker 4>woman is not a man, so to put them up

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<v Speaker 4>against other men isn't fair either. What we need is

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to the transgender people and say how can

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<v Speaker 4>we help? What can we do? And that's and that

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<v Speaker 4>carries over into everything in politics today, where we're so polarized.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody has absolute positions one side.

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<v Speaker 6>Of the other. People don't want to talk. What we

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<v Speaker 6>need is just the opposite. We need people who are

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<v Speaker 6>going to be we have to be epathetic and compassionate

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<v Speaker 6>to each other and say, you know, how do we

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<v Speaker 6>help Texas?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you. Let me ask you this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so you you talk to Let us say whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>the parents of a transgender child or a transgender child.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say who's fifteen or sixteen years old? And the

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<v Speaker 2>transgender child says, okay, I was born male, but I

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<v Speaker 2>consider myself female, and I'm pretty good at soccer, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to play on the boys team because

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<v Speaker 2>I consider myself female and I want to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to play high school soccer or college soccer on the

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<v Speaker 2>girls team, and whether the sport is lacrosse or swimming

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. How conversely, on the other side of the room,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a girl woman, a person's born born female

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<v Speaker 2>and consumemself considers themselves a girl.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's only so many players that can make the team.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only so many players that are gonna get a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of playing time or whatever. So you have kind

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<v Speaker 2>of what a law school professor of mine, Alfred Weisel,

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<v Speaker 2>refers to as an irreconcilable conflict. It's not like you

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<v Speaker 2>can you know, as they say, you know, King Solomon

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<v Speaker 2>split the baby, and then the real mother says, no,

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<v Speaker 2>don't split the baby. Now you know the real mother

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<v Speaker 2>is what do you do? I mean if you say

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<v Speaker 2>to the transgender, yeah, you could play, and then that

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<v Speaker 2>impacts someone.

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<v Speaker 6>Who's well yesing. But I think what you say is

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<v Speaker 6>to the transgender, who is you know, a woman in

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<v Speaker 6>a man's body. You have to say to them, you've

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<v Speaker 6>got a male body, and it isn't fair to put

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<v Speaker 6>you up against people who have female bodies. So what

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<v Speaker 6>can we do instead? Now I don't know the answer, though.

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<v Speaker 6>My suspicion is what we need is to consider respecting

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<v Speaker 6>them and then maybe creating transgender leagues in high school

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<v Speaker 6>so that people who are one that has.

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<v Speaker 2>Been has been, that has been suggested as a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact. Uh, the way that we could do that, okay?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>And I know, and you're a rational guy here, Vinie,

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<v Speaker 2>And and I like your your your thoughts. There are

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<v Speaker 2>some sports in some schools that do not have enough athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll use an example of us. Let's say a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of school systems that they want to have a

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<v Speaker 2>hockey team. And in order to have a hockey team,

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<v Speaker 2>you need let's say eighteen players because it's an exhausting,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sport, and you you only have eight or

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<v Speaker 2>nine players at one school and eight or nine players

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<v Speaker 2>at another. And what you do is you combine those

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<v Speaker 2>schools and you have, you know, a hockey team of

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<v Speaker 2>players from two schools. That way, eighteen kids are accommodated

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<v Speaker 2>in the sport they want to play.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, So that's thinking outside the box. Yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 6>you do. Yeah, exactly, it sounds I mean, well, I

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<v Speaker 6>went to high school where it was Coyo High School

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<v Speaker 6>in Tonton. It's Coyo Cassidy. Now I guess, but it

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<v Speaker 6>was Coil back in my day, and we were a

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<v Speaker 6>small school. You know, we just barely got enough people

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<v Speaker 6>to play, you know, in football or whatever. But we

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<v Speaker 6>managed to get enough.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, they say, particularly particularly on some if, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>that you've got a few kids who want to play

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<v Speaker 2>on a golf team, and you know enough kids for

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<v Speaker 2>a real golf team, you combine a couple of schools

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<v Speaker 2>exactly you have.

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<v Speaker 6>Definitely, Vinny, I think it's a wonderful idea, too great.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was your idea. I'm only tagging along with it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great idea, Vinnie. Thank you very much. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk much more about this, I'm sure in the weeks

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<v Speaker 2>and months ahead. I suspect great.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks. Thanks such to night.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. Thank you, Vinnie. Okay, we get back. It'll

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<v Speaker 2>be the twentieth hour. And by the way, I do

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<v Speaker 2>think that Republicans will hold the House. And my prediction

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<v Speaker 2>on that I'm just doing some math here is I

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<v Speaker 2>think they'll hold the House with about two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two or two hundred and twenty three seats to

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and twelve two hundred and thirteen for the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be not much of a change. The Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>might pick up a couple of seats, but that's it.

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