Speaker 1: It's night Time with Dan ray On de Fleas Boston
Speaker 1: New Video.
Speaker 2: Well, I have not checked in the last hour or so,
Speaker 2: but I believe that the election results have been pretty
Speaker 2: clear to most people. I think everyone, including Vice President
Speaker 2: Harris and President Biden, have acknowledged that President former President
Speaker 2: Trump is now the president elect. He will be the
Speaker 2: forty seventh president, inaugurated on January twentieth, twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: becoming only the second president to serve a second non
Speaker 2: consecutive term, the first being Grover Cleveland back in the
Speaker 2: late nineteenth century. The resurrection of Donald Trump rising from
Speaker 2: a phoenix was an extraordinary, a feat I had acknowledged
Speaker 2: and I will continue to acknowledge that I did not
Speaker 2: think that Donald Trump could win a national election. And
Speaker 2: I know that there are many of you out there
Speaker 2: who are Trump loyal Trump supporters who will never forgive
Speaker 2: me for doubting that. But I have an obligation to
Speaker 2: tell you what I believe. And I also am a
Speaker 2: big enough person to admit that I underestimated him, as
Speaker 2: did the Democratic Party. The Democrats, I believe, felt that
Speaker 2: Joe Biden was a weakened president and that by forcing
Speaker 2: Joe Biden out of the nomination, which he had won
Speaker 2: with fourteen million votes. They persuaded him to resign. I'm
Speaker 2: sure there was tremendous pressure on Biden after Biden said
Speaker 2: only God money came down and told me to resign.
Speaker 2: When I resigned, and obviously a more powerful figure came down,
Speaker 2: a former House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, who told him to resign,
Speaker 2: and I think Chuck Schumer added to it, as did
Speaker 2: George Clooney and probably Barack Obama. So President Biden, who
Speaker 2: will not go down in history as one of our
Speaker 2: great presidents, stepped aside. And the Democrats thought they had
Speaker 2: had a great convention, it was full of joy and
Speaker 2: happiness and spirit in Chicago, and that they had dodged
Speaker 2: the bullet of losing to Donald Trump because Vice President
Speaker 2: Harris would be a much more formidable foe. Well, it
Speaker 2: didn't work out that way. Now the Democrats, and I've
Speaker 2: talked to some are really thinking, have we put ourselves
Speaker 2: into a box. There's been a lot of criticism of
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party. I've watched CNN this week and I've
Speaker 2: watched people like Van Jones and a variety of the
Speaker 2: Democratic pundits just talk about problems. Now, some of them
Speaker 2: talk about it in terms of, well, these are the
Speaker 2: horrific suburban white women who did not turn out in force.
Speaker 2: They they blame everybody but themselves. Well, one Democrat who
Speaker 2: was kind of looked in the mirror, I think. Uh
Speaker 2: And and the image that that Seth Moulten was looking
Speaker 2: at is not necessarily himself, but he was looking at
Speaker 2: the image of the Democratic Party. He was quoted in
Speaker 2: the New York Times yesterday saying that let me, let
Speaker 2: me quote this accurately. Uh he he was very concerned
Speaker 2: about issues. Uh and he pointed out uh he he
Speaker 2: basically said that he was blaming his party for being
Speaker 2: out of touch with the American people. Uh And he
Speaker 2: cited some transgender issues. And this was Moulton's quote. Quote well,
Speaker 2: out of the Times. Let me give it to you
Speaker 2: in complete context, he said. Bernie Sanders was quoted. Then
Speaker 2: it said Representative Seth Moulton of Massachusetts, who was one
Speaker 2: of the two dozen Democrats who sought the party's presidential
Speaker 2: nomination in twenty twenty, suggested the party should shift his
Speaker 2: approach on transgender issues. According to Moulton, quote, Democrats spend
Speaker 2: way too much time trying not to offend anyone, rather
Speaker 2: than being brutally honest about the challenges many Americans face. Unquote,
Speaker 2: mister Moulton said, he continues, I have two little girls.
Speaker 2: I don't want them getting run over on a playing
Speaker 2: field by a male or formerly male athlete. But as
Speaker 2: a Democrat, I'm supposed to be afraid to say that now. Immediately,
Speaker 2: there were comments made by other Democrats, including Promila Jaiapaul,
Speaker 2: one of the members of the squad. She's the chair
Speaker 2: of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Of course, she said democrat
Speaker 2: should not give in too prejudice and misinformation. Notice she
Speaker 2: labels immediately what Seth Moulten said as prejudice and misinformation.
Speaker 2: She compared the fight for transgender rights to the struggle
Speaker 2: of a gay marriage, in which public opinions shifted quickly. Quote.
Speaker 2: We need to create space for people's fears and let
Speaker 2: them get to know people unquote, said missus Giapaul, who
Speaker 2: described herself as the proud mom of a daughter who
Speaker 2: happens to be transd again, she has every right to
Speaker 2: be an advocate for her daughter and for members of
Speaker 2: the trans community, and there should be no one who
Speaker 2: discriminates against members of the trans community. However, the point
Speaker 2: that Molten raised was a political point, and that is,
Speaker 2: has the Democratic Party put themselves in a position where
Speaker 2: they have to be so right, so perfectly politically correct?
Speaker 2: Now as a concert quins of all of that, we
Speaker 2: reached out to Congressman Moulton this afternoon and I did
Speaker 2: not speak with him, but I spoke with his press
Speaker 2: person and she told me that he was not available,
Speaker 2: that they were getting a lot of blowback from the
Speaker 2: party from certain segments of the party. However, I think
Speaker 2: that the questions that he was raising goes far beyond
Speaker 2: transgender issues. Okay, his own chief of staff, whose name
Speaker 2: is Matt Chiliac, has, according to The Boston Globe tonight,
Speaker 2: resigned as chief of staff of Seth Moulton. Congressman Moulton.
Speaker 2: The Boston Herald late tonight reached out to Moulton's office
Speaker 2: for comments and they said, we're not commenting on personnel
Speaker 2: matters office policy. Chiliac on election night posted on social media, quote,
Speaker 2: millions of Americans today showed that they hate immigrants and
Speaker 2: transgender people more than they fear fascism. Unquote, mister Chiliac
Speaker 2: that is walking past the graveyard. Okay. It is also
Speaker 2: an absolute misrepresentation of people who voted for Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: The Democrats have, in my opinion, focused on issues which
Speaker 2: are not of great importance to the people who elected
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. All the exit polls show just as James
Speaker 2: Carville once said, it's the economy, stupid, It's the economy.
Speaker 2: And I'm addressing this to mister chiliac, stupid, it's the economy.
Speaker 2: People in different parts of the country who have different
Speaker 2: points of view don't hate people, Okay, because you saw
Speaker 2: that Donald Trump had increased the vote that he received
Speaker 2: from Hispanics, from Blacks, from minorities across the board. I mean,
Speaker 2: how Donald Trump does it. He is able to reach people.
Speaker 2: He's able to reach people, and Seth Moulten basically was
Speaker 2: telling what I think is a hard truth. He's not
Speaker 2: the only Democrat that I have talked to who have
Speaker 2: expressed that truth. So the question I want to hear
Speaker 2: from you, that I want to ask you is your
Speaker 2: reaction to what Malton has to say. I don't want
Speaker 2: to talk about what you feel about transgenders. That's not
Speaker 2: the point. The point is Moulton has basically said we
Speaker 2: as a party have lost our way. That's what he's
Speaker 2: really saying, that we have no longer focusing on the
Speaker 2: issues that are most important to the American voters. And
Speaker 2: that is proven by what happened on Tuesday. They lost
Speaker 2: four Senate seats, so they went from being a holding
Speaker 2: the Senate by two votes fifty one to forty nine
Speaker 2: to now losing the Senate fifty three to forty seven
Speaker 2: by six votes. I believe that the many of these
Speaker 2: House races that are now still up in the air
Speaker 2: are in Arizona and California. They're not all that close,
Speaker 2: and they're not like you know races that are hanging
Speaker 2: by two or three votes. They are they just only
Speaker 2: have fifty percent of the vote, sixty percent of the vote. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't know those districts to know how representative that
Speaker 2: vote that is accounted is, or if they're waiting for
Speaker 2: a community of great strength for one candidate or the other.
Speaker 2: But I predict that at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: the Republicans not only will occupy the White House and
Speaker 2: also control the Senate, but they'll also hold on to
Speaker 2: their lead in the House. And so as has often
Speaker 2: happened with losing parties, political parties. Someone has to say,
Speaker 2: it's Seth Molten Senate and there's a whole bunch of issues.
Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of issues that the Democrats have
Speaker 2: jumped on to uh symbolic issues, which are you know,
Speaker 2: politically correct, you know, cutting police bail funds for people
Speaker 2: who have been arrested for burning down police stations. That's
Speaker 2: not what the average American is interested in. And as
Speaker 2: they say, I'm not here to discuss transgender rights, I
Speaker 2: will tell you that Seth Molten raised the issue of
Speaker 2: he does not want his daughters playing on a on
Speaker 2: a high school field. Look, when kids are small, when
Speaker 2: they're young, I should say, when they're when they're little, Uh,
Speaker 2: they have coit's soccer, because no one's going to get hurt.
Speaker 2: Five year old kindergarten and first grade kids play soccer together,
Speaker 2: the boys and girls. No big deal. Okay, But when
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you have a daughter on a
Speaker 2: high school soccer team or on a high school swim team. Uh,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, uh, a transgender female because
Speaker 2: they don't want to be accused of being you know,
Speaker 2: inappropriate now is going to be on that team, and
Speaker 2: that transgender female is you know, six ' three and
Speaker 2: has a much larger body mass. There could be some injuries,
Speaker 2: and that's what Malton is saying. He personalized it in
Speaker 2: terms of his two daughters. He may not have picked
Speaker 2: the right issue. Maybe he did, but there's a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of issues where the Democrats have been pushed so
Speaker 2: far to the left by the progressors that it cost
Speaker 2: them the reelection of Donald Trump, and it probably cost
Speaker 2: them the Senate. I mean Bob Casey, three term senator
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, Democrat, his father was a senator before him.
Speaker 2: That seat now has been won by a businessman Republican
Speaker 2: named Dave McCormick by a very thin margin. West Virginia
Speaker 2: they were going to lose that seat anyway. That's become
Speaker 2: a Republican state. That was the canary in the coal mine.
Speaker 2: Pardon the metaphor, but it's really it really is the
Speaker 2: canary the coal mine. In Ohio, Sharon Brown is lof lo.
Speaker 2: John Tester has lost in Montana. And that's what that
Speaker 2: is what Seth Molten and I say hats off to
Speaker 2: Seth Moulten because the Democratic Party has to get their
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Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: By the way, Seth Molten, in comments to The Boston
Speaker 2: Herald late today, Uh said this quote, I stand firmly
Speaker 2: in my belief for the need for competitive women's sports
Speaker 2: to put limits on the participation of those with the
Speaker 2: unfair physical advantages that come with being born male. I'm
Speaker 2: also a strong supporter of the civil rights of all Americans,
Speaker 2: including transgender rights. I will fight, as I always have,
Speaker 2: for the rights and safety of all citizens. These two
Speaker 2: ideas are not mutually exclusive, and we can even disagree
Speaker 2: on them. Yet there are many who, shouting from the
Speaker 2: extreme left corners of social media, believe I have failed
Speaker 2: the unspoken Democratic Party purity test. We did not lose
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four election because of any trans person
Speaker 2: or issue. We lost in part because we shame and
Speaker 2: belittle too many opinions held by too many voters, and
Speaker 2: that needs to stop. Let's have these debates now, determine
Speaker 2: a new strategy for our party since our existing one failed,
Speaker 2: and then unite to oppose the Trump agenda or ever
Speaker 2: it imperil's American values. And I would tend to agree
Speaker 2: very much with Seth Moulton, meaning that I have friends
Speaker 2: who happen to be trans. I suspect that those folks
Speaker 2: may have disagreements on whether or not trands should be
Speaker 2: able to compete in athletic events against a female female
Speaker 2: student athletes, whether it's lacrosse or or soccer, which are
Speaker 2: quasi contact sports. That's not they're not football, but they
Speaker 2: can be as tough as football. And I I think
Speaker 2: Moulton has has hit something here. So let's see what
Speaker 2: people think. Yes, Noah, indifferent, Let's go to Ileen in
Speaker 2: wal team. I lean going to start us off here.
Speaker 2: You have a first stack at this.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Good evening, Dan, how are you tonight? I agree?
Speaker 3: I think we've lost our. Carmon says, I agree totally
Speaker 3: with Seth Moulton, and my reason is there's a very
Speaker 3: different It's very different from accepting and promoting something. Okay,
Speaker 3: I work in an industry that an event at street
Speaker 3: decorated into so so I have plenty of everybody. My
Speaker 3: crew is international, gay, straight, whatever. I accept them all.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean I'm going to promote a transgender
Speaker 3: lifestyle or a gay lifestyle. I accept that.
Speaker 4: I don't think any everybody else.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anyone asking you to do that,
Speaker 2: and I don't think Seth Molten is.
Speaker 3: I think that's what the problem is. They're promoting these
Speaker 3: lifestyles rather than just accepting them.
Speaker 2: Well, I think they're going beyond that. I think what
Speaker 2: Molten is saying is that the Democrats not only are
Speaker 2: are are supporting whatever however you want to say, promoting,
Speaker 2: but then they're turning around and saying, well, someone like you,
Speaker 2: you have to be transphobic or you have to be misogynistic.
Speaker 2: I was listening to all these these commentators on CNN
Speaker 2: this week that the black men who voted and didn't
Speaker 2: vote for Vice President Harris, they're racist. What I mean,
Speaker 2: it's like my head was spinning. Yes, and it's always
Speaker 2: you talk about the ultimate virtue signaling.
Speaker 5: It's it's like, look, you know you vote for If
Speaker 5: you can tell me not to both for Harris, guess
Speaker 5: what I'm gonna do. Yeah, I mean she had all
Speaker 5: these If you tell me to keep vote for Harris,
Speaker 5: I'm going to vote who it was against her?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, they have these entertainers who I have no
Speaker 2: idea even who these people are. Megan the Stallion, I've
Speaker 2: seen her like on Saturday Night Live. I don't know what.
Speaker 2: Bruce Springsteen, He's a great singer, okay, but I'm not
Speaker 2: going to be influenced by Bruce Springsteen. Beyonce? Why should
Speaker 2: I be influenced by Beyonce? But I thought they thought
Speaker 2: they were dummies.
Speaker 3: No, they thought they thought there.
Speaker 2: Were people who were dummies out there who would say,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Bruce Springsteen supports that I have to
Speaker 2: support or if or if Taylor Swift. I can enjoy
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's music, but I don't have to like oh
Speaker 2: if Taylor Swift said this and the.
Speaker 3: Democrats lifestyle, I can listen to her music and not
Speaker 3: like her.
Speaker 2: Well, I have no idea what her lifestyle is. So
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you to do it.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying you don't. You know, I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: but here's the here's the other thing. And this just
Speaker 3: sort of highlights it very simply. In two sixteen, my aunt,
Speaker 3: who at that point was in her eighties, Irish Catholic,
Speaker 3: Massachusetts Democratic, whole life, said to me, I can't vote
Speaker 3: for that woman. And you know why she couldn't vote
Speaker 3: for that woman because it would have put Bill Clinton
Speaker 3: back in the White House.
Speaker 6: That was a reason.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's a lot of reasons you had
Speaker 2: to vot. There's a lot of reasons not to have
Speaker 2: voted for Hillary Clinton. But I understand, I understand the
Speaker 2: point you're making.
Speaker 3: To me, Kamala Harris was Hillary Clinton right down to
Speaker 3: the pants suit only with bigger teeth and a smaller Braain.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 2: into that.
Speaker 3: You don't agree with me, I'm just saying that was
Speaker 3: my price.
Speaker 2: I look, I think they're both very smart women. I
Speaker 2: disagree with them on a lot of issues. They're obviously
Speaker 2: dedicated to a philosophy of political philosophy that basically, the
Speaker 2: government knows best and the government will take care of us,
Speaker 2: and just fall in line with what the government says.
Speaker 2: And that that that notion was out of style in
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, and it was very out of style in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: And here's the other thing in terms of women not
Speaker 3: voting for Kamala. One was the sports issue, transgender women
Speaker 3: in sports, girls' sports. But the other thing you had
Speaker 3: Bill Clinton out the campaigning for this is a woman
Speaker 3: who's supposed to be pro women. I mean, he was harassed.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know.
Speaker 3: And then on the.
Speaker 2: Other side, at this point, is is a historical figure.
Speaker 2: He's not. I don't think he's influencing too many people.
Speaker 2: I lean, I got to run. I thank you very much.
Speaker 3: I have a good night news.
Speaker 2: I have a great one. I got Anthony and Woolster,
Speaker 2: I got Mark, I got Tom and I got Patrick,
Speaker 2: and I got room for you. The only line that's
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Speaker 2: a lot of people have made on behalf of all
Speaker 2: of us, so that we can do exactly what we're
Speaker 2: doing tonight, argue about issues. Back on Night's side right.
Speaker 1: After this, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, back to the phone. It's gonna go to Anthony
Speaker 2: and Worcester. Anthony, you are next to a KNIGHTSI go
Speaker 2: Redhead Anthony.
Speaker 7: Hi, Dan, and thank you, and I'll be as brief
Speaker 7: as I can.
Speaker 6: You go to wat to.
Speaker 7: I don't disagree with what the Congresson said. I just
Speaker 7: think the timing of it is a little questionable. And
Speaker 7: I was a Democrat my whole life. I got out
Speaker 7: of the party five six years ago because of some
Speaker 7: of the things that the party was in, the direction
Speaker 7: it was going, and the principle of what the Congresson
Speaker 7: said I agree with, and I think his majority of
Speaker 7: his district would agree with. What I have a problem with, Dan,
Speaker 7: is the timing of it. You know, the you know,
Speaker 7: the idea that you know, he's coming up and saying
Speaker 7: this now after he could look at the results of
Speaker 7: the election. He saw and he was one that promoted
Speaker 7: the democracy was on the ballot. Democracy wasn't on the ballot, Dan,
Speaker 7: the economy was on the ballot. The safety of our
Speaker 7: country was on the ballots. And so I just think
Speaker 7: it's a little hypocritical for the congressman to come out
Speaker 7: after he's seen the results, not just across the country,
Speaker 7: but in particular Massachusetts, Dan, I mean, there is major
Speaker 7: strides made on the Republican side. And I'm an independent now,
Speaker 7: so I can say that.
Speaker 4: So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: You Okay, First of all, I assume, by the way,
Speaker 2: I know Seth Malted pretty well, and I think he's
Speaker 2: a straight shooter. He's a guy who I think is
Speaker 2: a really honorable individual. You know, served in the military,
Speaker 2: went to Harvard, was our otc at Harvard, did time
Speaker 2: in the military in the war zones. And so he's
Speaker 2: more than paid his dues. Maybe all along he has
Speaker 2: harbored apprehensions and construmans. I don't know that I can
Speaker 2: go back and find an article where Seth Molten a
Speaker 2: month ago or six months ago said yeah, I believe
Speaker 2: that transgender athletes should compete in women's high school or
Speaker 2: college sports. That would be hypocritical. Maybe he never I
Speaker 2: suspect he's never addressed that specifically, and that he now
Speaker 2: is saying to himself, Hey, this is an albatross where
Speaker 2: on my party's neck at this point. Witness the results
Speaker 2: on Tuesday. It may be highly acceptable in Massachusetts, and
Speaker 2: it may hurt him politically in Massachusetts, but I think
Speaker 2: he's looking at the larger picture of what's the future
Speaker 2: of the Democratic Party. That's my take on it. I
Speaker 2: could be dead wrong, and if you can say to me, hey, Dan,
Speaker 2: six months ago there was a piece in the Boston
Speaker 2: Globe and he was all in on you know, transgender
Speaker 2: athletes participating in high school athletics.
Speaker 7: Yeah, then I don't. I'm not saying I have specific facts.
Speaker 2: But maybe someone else does. Someone else does it with
Speaker 2: support what you're saying.
Speaker 7: It's it's just, you know, as we're using analogy in sports,
Speaker 7: the Monday Morning quarterback. He's been in office for quite
Speaker 7: a while, and I have no I've only met the
Speaker 7: man once in my life at a convention in Worcester,
Speaker 7: but I would just say that the timing of this
Speaker 7: of him saying this, I think it doesn't pass the
Speaker 7: small test, but I'll let you go to.
Speaker 2: The Thanks Anthony, I appreciate you call. Have a great
Speaker 2: weekend and joy veterans say weekend, Thanks Anthony. Let me
Speaker 2: go next, Mark and Alston Market next on nightside.
Speaker 8: I got I. I think there's a lot of truth
Speaker 8: in what Congressman Malton has been saying. You know that
Speaker 8: I work at a supermarket and h we wind up
Speaker 8: spending a lot of our time returning items to the
Speaker 8: else because the customers are so hard pressed financially that
Speaker 8: they have to leave them at the cash register.
Speaker 2: Yep, I've done that myself. To be honest with you,
Speaker 2: there have been there's some items I think it was
Speaker 2: on sale and uh, you know, I I'm my pride
Speaker 2: does doesn't get in the way when I think I'm
Speaker 2: paying too much for an item. So believe me, I've
Speaker 2: done that myself, Mark.
Speaker 8: And I think that to regain traction, the National Democratic
Speaker 8: Party has to rededicate itself to what are known as
Speaker 8: kitchen chable issues like making college more affordable.
Speaker 2: I think I think those are the areas where the
Speaker 2: Democrats always do well.
Speaker 8: Couldn't agree with you more, but I I'd be the
Speaker 8: amount of fundraising appeals I get in my mailbox is
Speaker 8: just so over the top. I mean, it can be
Speaker 8: very difficult to communicate to the Democratic Party establishment that
Speaker 8: you don't have a lot of money to give. What
Speaker 8: you can give is some volunteer time.
Speaker 2: But well, that's a good point too, Mark, I mean,
Speaker 2: if they're re lying. Look, I believe that the Harris
Speaker 2: campaign spent one point two billion dollars. Some it just
Speaker 2: they had more money than Donald Trump. I mean, it
Speaker 2: wasn't money. It wasn't like Trump. The Republicans outspeed the Democrats.
Speaker 2: The point you're making is an excellent point, Mark. The
Speaker 2: Democrats had they were a wash in money. But what
Speaker 2: message did they use that money to deliver? That's the
Speaker 2: question that Moulton's raising. You've hit the nail right on
Speaker 2: the head. Mark. I got to keep running here because
Speaker 2: they got tack lines. Outstanding phone call tonight, Mark, I
Speaker 2: mean that you were right on the money tonight. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much, have a great night, good night. There
Speaker 2: we goes Okay, Tom, Hey, Tom, welcome back, Tom and
Speaker 2: the Philippines go right ahead, Tom.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know I used to be a staunch Democrat.
Speaker 9: I'm aware of being in a labor being in a
Speaker 9: labor union. I went to the convention in eighty eight
Speaker 9: as a delegate. First time I ever ran Ward ten mission. Hell,
Speaker 9: first time I ever ran for to be a delegate
Speaker 9: in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: So there was we're a delegate a delegate for Doucacas,
Speaker 2: I assume in eighty eight or was at the state.
Speaker 4: Convention convention field.
Speaker 2: That's okay, Rob, you fix Tom's line for me, Rob, okay,
Speaker 2: because just let him know that that was a horrible connection.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Patrick in the district of Columbia
Speaker 2: where all the action is Patrick, how are you tonight?
Speaker 4: Well, the action is there right. Well, we had this election, right,
Speaker 4: so it was safe for me to come out from
Speaker 4: underneath the bed.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna have that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And from what I experience in my in my world
Speaker 4: and how I do things, is are people who are
Speaker 4: working people, and they have businesses, and they work for companies,
Speaker 4: and they have goods and services that are produced and transferred,
Speaker 4: and there's all sorts of things that that different people
Speaker 4: do a lot of different things. They just can't afford
Speaker 4: to pay for what the Democrats want because it's not
Speaker 4: what they want, and they don't want to pay for
Speaker 4: something that they don't want, not just once, they don't
Speaker 4: want to do it twice. And I think that's how
Speaker 4: we came to Donald Trump. We paid for it. We're
Speaker 4: paying for it. Like in Massachusetts with the with the immigrants, right,
Speaker 4: you know you keep bringing them in here, you're helping
Speaker 4: the pay.
Speaker 2: Well, in Massachusetts we're now two billion dollars in the
Speaker 2: hole because of the migration. Now, I know a lot
Speaker 2: of people are going to say, well, that's because Governor
Speaker 2: Abbott has sent them out of Texas. Well, did you
Speaker 2: expect Texas was going to keep them there? By the way,
Speaker 2: I think that today I heard somewhere that Mayor Adams
Speaker 2: in New York has decided to stop giving migrants EBT cards.
Speaker 4: We can't afford it.
Speaker 2: No, I understand that thinking. But yeah, matter of fact,
Speaker 2: let me double check that before. Let me see. By
Speaker 2: the way, one of the things you're concerned about is
Speaker 2: civil defense, yes, and how we are falling behind here
Speaker 2: we should be. Is either party addressing those concerns that
Speaker 2: you have.
Speaker 4: No, it is a taboo term here in Washington, D C.
Speaker 4: And while I got my eye on the clock real quick,
Speaker 4: while you're looking at that. If you remember when Trump
Speaker 4: went to Capitol Hill to stop the the the border bill,
Speaker 4: let me just call it the border bill, right, Okay,
Speaker 4: went in there. You know, now I'm a bad build
Speaker 4: and then we're not going to do it. We're not
Speaker 4: going to do it. Okay. If that bill would have
Speaker 4: gone through the Department of Homeland Security would have benefited
Speaker 4: from that totally, would you agree there.
Speaker 2: And so forth?
Speaker 4: And therefore it would go directly to the Department of
Speaker 4: Big Titles and he'll get nothing but a bunch of
Speaker 4: big titles and you're not going to get anything done.
Speaker 4: The reason why we don't say civil defense is because
Speaker 4: civil defense is civilians and you don't get registered with
Speaker 4: the Department of Big Titles. You are a citizen doing
Speaker 4: your citizenship, Okay, and that's that's it. That's it in
Speaker 4: a nutshell.
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, I've just checked out. Mayor Adams
Speaker 2: in New York has apparently ended the EBT cards or
Speaker 2: you know, food stamp programs for migrants. So that's an
Speaker 2: effort that on his part. He's saying, it's basically it's uh,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's killing New York City. So that's a
Speaker 2: big step. I mean, it's interesting because Donald Trump gets elected,
Speaker 2: he hasn't been sworn into office yet. Uh and already
Speaker 2: Mayor Adams has has has has has reversed himself. It
Speaker 2: was only a few months ago that Adams decided to
Speaker 2: make EBT cards available to migrants, and I think they would.
Speaker 4: Be given three reaching into our back pockets, they can't.
Speaker 2: Again, it's three hundred and fifty dollars a week. Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was for a family of four.
Speaker 2: I'll have to do some work on this over the weekend.
Speaker 2: But and I think we do the same thing, by
Speaker 2: the way here in Massachusetts. That's a big part of
Speaker 2: it as well. So yeah, we're very generous people. We're
Speaker 2: very generous people. Patrick.
Speaker 4: Now we pay for once, we pay for once, but
Speaker 4: now you're making us pay for it twice, and you
Speaker 4: keep exasperating the problem. That's why we'd yes, sir.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir Patrick has always I appreciated hearing from you.
Speaker 2: Have a great weekend. Okay, stay safe down in there
Speaker 2: in in DC.
Speaker 4: I will I'll keep my doors locked. Well.
Speaker 2: Well, the other thing too is I think maybe maybe
Speaker 2: maybe this inauguration will will be less controversial, and the
Speaker 2: run up to the inauguration will be less controversial than
Speaker 2: it was four years ago, because.
Speaker 4: It has to, because he won the popular vote.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and I you know again, I think that
Speaker 2: that number is still holding. I'll check that during the
Speaker 2: news as well. Patrick, Thank you, sir, appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2: Good night. Let me get one more in here if
Speaker 2: I can. Before we got to we have to take
Speaker 2: a break. All of a sudden, we lost Tom in
Speaker 2: the Philippines. If Tom wants to call back, we'll put
Speaker 2: him to the head of the line, Rob. If Tom's
Speaker 2: still listening, the lines that are opened six one, seven, nine, three,
Speaker 2: one ten thirty or six one, seven, two, five, four
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Mike and Beverley, Mike next on nightside.
Speaker 10: Go right ahead, Hey, can you hand men?
Speaker 2: I can hear you find sir, Go right ahead. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're you're in congressman, You're in Molten's district, right if
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, yes.
Speaker 11: Sir, I am, okay, I'll never even once.
Speaker 10: Okay, you never done in my area.
Speaker 11: But I know I heard about the thing today and
Speaker 11: heard the city Salem councilor says that, uh, I wanted
Speaker 11: he should fight, get fired and resign.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 10: Like the Democratic Party is out of their mind. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 10: he spoke out for the situation.
Speaker 12: But Kamala Harris from all of that situations when they
Speaker 12: years ago, before she even became a Joe Biden uh
Speaker 12: in California, you know, And that's.
Speaker 10: What having that situation. As far as the Erica Adams
Speaker 10: saying yes he did, he kept the money out. Todaymar
Speaker 10: Healley's not gonna win. Like, I don't understand the Democratic Party.
Speaker 11: They're out of their mind. And why are they like
Speaker 11: already on a ramp page to fight Trump on They
Speaker 11: lost their election over a final me uh, the border
Speaker 11: and crime. That's why they lost election.
Speaker 2: Now, I would agree with I would agree with you
Speaker 2: and that. I'm certainly we could find some polls which
Speaker 2: would support that. But that's a pretty good trifecta the economy, immigration,
Speaker 2: and crime. And I also think that that on some
Speaker 2: of the issues that the Democrats were talking about. Democracy,
Speaker 2: I don't think, according to the polls, did much for
Speaker 2: the Democrats. And I don't know that abortion paid off
Speaker 2: the political dividends that the Democrats had hoped for so.
Speaker 11: I know, because they were pushing that area. Dan, that's
Speaker 11: all I have to do. Because she said on that
Speaker 11: eleven o'clock shows it was there something that she could
Speaker 11: do differently, she says, no, she was done after that.
Speaker 11: What she said on that view show once she said
Speaker 11: that it was.
Speaker 6: A yeah, well I I.
Speaker 2: Think what she said was there's there's nothing that comes
Speaker 2: to mind, and that became sort of a metaphor for
Speaker 2: the campaign, which was which was tough. Mike. I hate
Speaker 2: to do this to you, but I gotta go. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm past my break. I took you because it once
Speaker 2: you have to wait through the commercials, but I got
Speaker 2: commercials coming up, and without commercials, you and I don't
Speaker 2: get a chance to talk on the radio, my friend,
Speaker 2: So thanks for the call. I think you made your
Speaker 2: points well and we will talk next week.
Speaker 11: Okay, try and get Momory Haley.
Speaker 10: I like to talk to her.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure she'd love to talk to you. Mike. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: you got it right night. Good night. You've got a
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Speaker 2: to me how well and how how how easily this
Speaker 2: election went. I was fearful that we were going to
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Speaker 2: That's why we're talking about Seth Moulton's comments. If you'd
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Vinnie in Randall. Vinnie next
Speaker 2: on NIGHTSID.
Speaker 6: Go right ahead, h hi Yan, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 6: It's my first time calling you.
Speaker 2: Give you a quick run of applause in my VIC
Speaker 2: studio audience here is always welcome very much.
Speaker 6: That's why I said it was first time, so I
Speaker 6: could hear the applause. I need something.
Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that at this point? What you thought?
Speaker 6: I was thinking about, you know, Seth Moulden and the
Speaker 6: transgender stuff. And my thought is, you know, I don't
Speaker 6: know what we should do. I don't know how we
Speaker 6: should handle people with transgender But to me, what's missing
Speaker 6: is we're not talking to transgender people and asking like what.
Speaker 4: Do you need? You know, having men people women with
Speaker 4: male bodies playing against women doesn't sound fair to me,
Speaker 4: but to say, well, you can't do that, so therefore
Speaker 4: your only option is to be the other thing, when
Speaker 4: that's not what they are either. You know, a transgender
Speaker 4: woman is not a man, so to put them up
Speaker 4: against other men isn't fair either. What we need is
Speaker 4: to talk to the transgender people and say how can
Speaker 4: we help? What can we do? And that's and that
Speaker 4: carries over into everything in politics today, where we're so polarized.
Speaker 4: Everybody has absolute positions one side.
Speaker 6: Of the other. People don't want to talk. What we
Speaker 6: need is just the opposite. We need people who are
Speaker 6: going to be we have to be epathetic and compassionate
Speaker 6: to each other and say, you know, how do we
Speaker 6: help Texas?
Speaker 2: Let me ask you. Let me ask you this. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you you talk to Let us say whether it's
Speaker 2: the parents of a transgender child or a transgender child.
Speaker 2: Let's say who's fifteen or sixteen years old? And the
Speaker 2: transgender child says, okay, I was born male, but I
Speaker 2: consider myself female, and I'm pretty good at soccer, and
Speaker 2: I don't want to play on the boys team because
Speaker 2: I consider myself female and I want to be able
Speaker 2: to play high school soccer or college soccer on the
Speaker 2: girls team, and whether the sport is lacrosse or swimming
Speaker 2: or whatever. How conversely, on the other side of the room,
Speaker 2: you have a girl woman, a person's born born female
Speaker 2: and consumemself considers themselves a girl.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: And there's only so many players that can make the team.
Speaker 2: There's only so many players that are gonna get a
Speaker 2: lot of playing time or whatever. So you have kind
Speaker 2: of what a law school professor of mine, Alfred Weisel,
Speaker 2: refers to as an irreconcilable conflict. It's not like you
Speaker 2: can you know, as they say, you know, King Solomon
Speaker 2: split the baby, and then the real mother says, no,
Speaker 2: don't split the baby. Now you know the real mother
Speaker 2: is what do you do? I mean if you say
Speaker 2: to the transgender, yeah, you could play, and then that
Speaker 2: impacts someone.
Speaker 6: Who's well yesing. But I think what you say is
Speaker 6: to the transgender, who is you know, a woman in
Speaker 6: a man's body. You have to say to them, you've
Speaker 6: got a male body, and it isn't fair to put
Speaker 6: you up against people who have female bodies. So what
Speaker 6: can we do instead? Now I don't know the answer, though.
Speaker 6: My suspicion is what we need is to consider respecting
Speaker 6: them and then maybe creating transgender leagues in high school
Speaker 6: so that people who are one that has.
Speaker 2: Been has been, that has been suggested as a matter
Speaker 2: of fact. Uh, the way that we could do that, okay?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: And I know, and you're a rational guy here, Vinie,
Speaker 2: And and I like your your your thoughts. There are
Speaker 2: some sports in some schools that do not have enough athletes.
Speaker 2: And I'll use an example of us. Let's say a
Speaker 2: couple of school systems that they want to have a
Speaker 2: hockey team. And in order to have a hockey team,
Speaker 2: you need let's say eighteen players because it's an exhausting,
Speaker 2: you know, sport, and you you only have eight or
Speaker 2: nine players at one school and eight or nine players
Speaker 2: at another. And what you do is you combine those
Speaker 2: schools and you have, you know, a hockey team of
Speaker 2: players from two schools. That way, eighteen kids are accommodated
Speaker 2: in the sport they want to play.
Speaker 6: Yes, So that's thinking outside the box. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 6: you do. Yeah, exactly, it sounds I mean, well, I
Speaker 6: went to high school where it was Coyo High School
Speaker 6: in Tonton. It's Coyo Cassidy. Now I guess, but it
Speaker 6: was Coil back in my day, and we were a
Speaker 6: small school. You know, we just barely got enough people
Speaker 6: to play, you know, in football or whatever. But we
Speaker 6: managed to get enough.
Speaker 2: But again, they say, particularly particularly on some if, for example,
Speaker 2: that you've got a few kids who want to play
Speaker 2: on a golf team, and you know enough kids for
Speaker 2: a real golf team, you combine a couple of schools
Speaker 2: exactly you have.
Speaker 6: Definitely, Vinny, I think it's a wonderful idea, too great.
Speaker 2: Well, it was your idea. I'm only tagging along with it.
Speaker 2: That's a great idea, Vinnie. Thank you very much. We'll
Speaker 2: talk much more about this, I'm sure in the weeks
Speaker 2: and months ahead. I suspect great.
Speaker 6: Thanks. Thanks such to night.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Thank you, Vinnie. Okay, we get back. It'll
Speaker 2: be the twentieth hour. And by the way, I do
Speaker 2: think that Republicans will hold the House. And my prediction
Speaker 2: on that I'm just doing some math here is I
Speaker 2: think they'll hold the House with about two hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty two or two hundred and twenty three seats to
Speaker 2: two hundred and twelve two hundred and thirteen for the Democrats.
Speaker 2: There will be not much of a change. The Republicans
Speaker 2: might pick up a couple of seats, but that's it.
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