WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:06.519 This is WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre and you're listening to 2 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:13.640 the WWE podcast, the. 3 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:25.519 Show, the one that everybody wants me godt fore sixteen. 4 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:28.960 So I just used your ass is my arm? 5 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:30.559 You can acknowledge me. 6 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:38.119 Well, Backlash has come and gone, and we are now 7 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:42.159 focused on Saturday Night main event as the next kind 8 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:44.600 of ple e and then from there it's onto money 9 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:46.520 in the bank. But this is going to be a 10 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:50.359 show up and down, from wall to wall backlash as 11 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:54.320 intended by the title, and overall, I will say I 12 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:59.079 I did enjoy Backlash, despite the fact that they were 13 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:03.359 not as many returns or swerves as I would have liked. 14 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.359 And yes, we got a debut, one that no one 15 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:09.519 saw coming and one that made me and a lot 16 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:15.159 of people be honest, go who's this again? Who right? 17 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:19.319 And we'll get to that debut that new member of 18 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:21.879 the Blood and the newest member of the Bloodline in 19 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:25.439 just a few minutes, because that Bloodline story just will 20 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:29.640 not die. There have been so many iterations, in twists 21 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:33.079 and turns in that story. Are we all ready to 22 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:37.000 say it's over yet? Are we all? Every time you 23 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:41.280 think the Bloodline story is kind of fizzling out. They 24 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:44.159 just find a way to revive it. And sometimes it's 25 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:47.640 really good. Sometimes it's okay, and this time, yeah, it's 26 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:50.640 a new face. But I'm kind of ready for the 27 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:54.239 Bloodline to stop being a thing. I don't know how 28 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:58.120 you guys feel about it, but just generally, I'm just 29 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:01.519 I don't know, I'm just no matter it's seemingly what 30 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:03.480 they do to it, They've kind of done everything. They've 31 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:06.359 introduced new people, They've had people turn babyface and heel 32 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:12.080 from it. They've had champions go four years plus running 33 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:16.080 the company. We've had an absentee champion, Roman Reigns. We've 34 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:20.960 had a Babyface infiltrate, a heel group with Sammy Zain. 35 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:24.759 We've had a new version of the Bloodline version two 36 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:29.759 point zero with Solo Socoa and his his tonguins and 37 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:32.840 now the new guy will get to him. And so 38 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:36.080 we've kind of seen it all done at all, and 39 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:41.080 I'm not I will say I'm not against watching it. 40 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:44.240 I just feel like I'm it's being oversaturated and they 41 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:47.759 are squeezing every ounce of this Bloodline faction that they 42 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:51.560 can out of out of the story, and that's their job. 43 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:53.759 I guess, But thank you everybody for joining me here. 44 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:57.599 I hope you all enjoyed Backlash. I was not an 45 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:01.879 active participant very much. I was exhausted yesterday, so I 46 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:04.199 didn't get to watch backlast really till this morning, and 47 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:06.439 even then I didn't watch every single thing. I did 48 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:09.759 skim through some things and go through entrances and just 49 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:12.439 watch the matches, which saves you a lot of time. 50 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:15.080 By the way, if you're not a big entrance person 51 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:16.960 and just want to watch the meat of the whole show, 52 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:19.280 you can, and it cuts the time at about half. 53 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:22.159 But I think the time overall was a nice pace 54 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:25.360 for the show. I mean three hours, you can't beat 55 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:28.240 that for a ple And it was very wrestling heavy, 56 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:32.599 as ples tend to be outside WrestleMania, and there's a 57 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:34.879 lot to get to. There's a lot to get to, 58 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:41.080 but first I want to get to big Ease comments. 59 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:43.680 Y'all know I was going to talk about this Biggie 60 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:47.800 on the pre show, talking about quote unquote giving grace 61 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:53.159 to the older performers, the older women female performers, and 62 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:56.159 again it came in response to Becky Lynch's comments. So 63 00:03:56.479 --> 00:04:01.879 Becky Lynch had said that quote I'll do continue to 64 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:04.280 do what I'm doing. I'll be great. I'll just beat 65 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:07.199 all these younger people, beat newer people. It's not that hard. 66 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:09.680 For some reason, it seems to be hard. It seems 67 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:11.800 to be harder on the women's vision. Look at all 68 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:16.000 the men. Who do you got that's hot and young 69 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:18.560 over there? None? You got a bunch of old lads 70 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:23.000 beating each other up. Nobody's saying nothing. The man really 71 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:25.160 drove her point home when she said that no one 72 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:28.639 is asking for Sampunker, even seth Rollins to step aside 73 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:34.319 and big Eie, here's what Biggie said about that, you 74 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:35.439 see two Irish women. 75 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:38.160 I feel like so much of the narrative is is 76 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:39.680 this a passing. 77 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:40.240 Of the torch moment? 78 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:42.680 But it's also very interesting when I hear from Becky 79 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:44.879 and she talks a lot about age and the way 80 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:47.040 we talk about age with the women and the way 81 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:49.240 we talk about age with the men, and that for 82 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:50.879 a lot of women who are in their late thirties, 83 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:52.959 it's all are you winding down? When are you ready 84 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:56.199 to get out? It feels like seventy five percent of 85 00:04:56.279 --> 00:05:00.360 the male side is thirty eight thirty ninety five ready 86 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:03.000 Randy wanted to do another ten years exactly exactly. So 87 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:05.279 let's give the women the same honor in the same 88 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:05.920 grace as well. 89 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:12.519 Okay, first of all, mister male feminist, all right, the 90 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:16.480 first couple things, all right, And to hear that from Biggie, 91 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:18.879 I mean it's such a it feels like a corporate line, 92 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:24.839 does it not. Okay, two big things here. One, men 93 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:27.839 and women are different. I know that comes as a shock, 94 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:32.120 It probably comes as a revelation, but if you look around, 95 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:36.399 you just kind of can tell inherently that men and 96 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:39.319 women are not the same. They don't age the same, 97 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:42.439 they don't have the same strengths and weaknesses. And if 98 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:46.000 we're just talking about physically now, just physically, men are superior. 99 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:52.319 They just are biologically right. Otherwise, I mean, men competing 100 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:55.040 in women's sports it would be a travesty. And we're 101 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:57.920 seeing that now and a lot of actions taken. Again, 102 00:05:58.000 --> 00:05:59.199 So what there should which should be? I mean, you 103 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.040 can't have men competing in women's sports. That's what the 104 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:07.000 delineation is for fairness, right, But that aside, Okay, the 105 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:11.839 fact that men and women are different. The idea though, 106 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:16.360 that we have to give women grace right, and that 107 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:20.279 Becky first of all, can't speak proper English, Okay. I 108 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:23.279 mean she says, quote, you got a bunch of old 109 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:28.839 lads beating each other up. Nobody's saying nothing. That's from 110 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:35.920 Becky Lynch. Expand, Becky, please please expand on that. It 111 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:39.879 seems to be harder on the women's division. How in 112 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:41.800 what way? Because of age? 113 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:42.399 Yeah? 114 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:45.279 Age is a big factor because women do not age 115 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:48.360 the same. When you take a woman who already is 116 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:52.120 physically limited compared to the men, and physically limited in 117 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:55.800 the ring compared to men, their muscle mass, their bone density, 118 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:59.560 everything down to their cellular level degrades at a slower 119 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:05.519 pace than men. That's just that's just fact. Okay. So 120 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:09.720 you don't have a lot of these women. Do you 121 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:13.839 see Sable wanting to come out at sixty years old 122 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.920 and have a match? Who do you see on the 123 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:19.759 women's side that the ww fans or the w WE 124 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:21.399 are like, hey, you know what was that person doing? 125 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:21.920 These days? 126 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:26.399 You don't see it because women are not as physically 127 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:31.720 strong and capable as men period. I mean, we just 128 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:34.120 had Stone Cold come out of retirement a few years ago, 129 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:38.800 sixty years old, nearly sixty and had a bust ass 130 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:46.720 match with Kevin Owens. Right, we had John Cena and 131 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:53.680 Randy Orton at nearly fifty years old, nearly fifty having 132 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:59.319 a hell of a match last night at Backlash. So yeah, 133 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:04.600 these men are because well, yes, their drive and their 134 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:10.079 their lifestyle and all that helps promote their maintaining, maintaining 135 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:13.399 of muscle mass and all of that, and their lung 136 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:18.160 capacity which is far superior to women's. Again, physically, I'm 137 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:20.839 not talking about mentally. I'm not talking about emotionally. I'm 138 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:23.160 not talking about what they contribute to society as a whole, 139 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:25.160 or that women don't have strengths. I know a lot 140 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:27.360 of you are reading into this. I'm talking about physically 141 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:31.839 purely from a professional wrestling standpoint, all right, but very 142 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:35.320 clear about that. No matter what I say, I'm sure 143 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.600 I'm already angering some of you. And that's just is 144 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:39.440 what it is. If you're angry at this, then you 145 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:42.240 have your own agenda, which it means you're just angry 146 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:45.279 at facts. I have no issue if women want to 147 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:48.480 come out of retirement, Okay, that's fine with me, but 148 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.159 it's going to be embarrassing and it's also going to 149 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:53.320 be unsafe. It's I mean, yes, there's an inherent risk 150 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:55.320 even for men that come out and they're older, because 151 00:08:55.360 --> 00:09:00.000 they're just we are all slaves to father time. They all, 152 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.200 we all will die. We all have our bodies right 153 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:07.720 now as we speak, breaking down. That's it, right, But 154 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:10.799 men do it at a slower pace and they're able 155 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:13.759 to absorb more punishment in the ring for a longer 156 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:17.600 period of time. Professional wrestling forever will be a man's sport. 157 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:21.320 It just will be. You're gonna have women who do 158 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:23.440 a hell of a job and they're always going to 159 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:26.159 be a part of professional wrestling, but pro wrestling at 160 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:29.799 its core will always be a man's sport. It just 161 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:32.519 is going to be. It doesn't need to transition to 162 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:35.399 a female sport, and it really wouldn't anyway. People don't 163 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:37.440 want that. I don't think people. People just want a 164 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:42.600 healthy mix, and you're not going to see a lot 165 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:45.559 of these women at fifty five sixty years old do this. 166 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:52.000 It's not gonna happen, so big ee cool it all right. 167 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:55.679 I know he's trying to play the I'm an ally 168 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:59.840 of the feminist card. I can see it. Unless I mean, 169 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:02.720 he probably truly believes it too, which makes it worse. 170 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:05.759 I'd love to have to ask him like, Okay, what 171 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:07.519 do you mean by that? Exactly? Give them the same 172 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:10.960 grace in what way? Because of their age? Are we 173 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:13.919 now being sexist and agist? Is it because when they 174 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:15.720 get older they don't look as good? So that's why 175 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:17.720 we're saying they can't compete and they shouldn't commit. But 176 00:10:17.799 --> 00:10:20.519 come back, is that what you're implying is because they 177 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:22.919 as women get older, they don't look as good. Is 178 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:24.919 that what you're implying And that's what we care about 179 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:29.399 the most. Is that what you're saying, Biggie sounds like it. 180 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:36.720 But also, Becky Lynch, on top of all this, has 181 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:42.000 said recently that she would beat MJF in a promo. Yes, yes, 182 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:46.840 she said that. I don't know what world, what reality 183 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:52.879 Becky Lynch is Rebecca Quinn is living in. She cannot 184 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:57.759 truly believe that she would in a shoot promo or 185 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:00.360 even a work promo because MJF would add his own flavor, 186 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:08.279 actually come out on top against MJF. She's kidding, right, MJF. 187 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:11.840 I think could school John Cena. And that is saying 188 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:16.279 something right now, MJF. Is he is the best promo 189 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:23.000 I've ever seen in my lifetime by a mile. Becky 190 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:27.039 Lynch can't even form a sentence, and she thinks that 191 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:30.759 she could defeat MJF in a promo. Is this just 192 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:32.639 trying to get attention? Is this her just trying to 193 00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:37.200 scream for attention? Is that what this is? It's a 194 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:41.279 cry for attention, Becky Lynch saying that she could defeat MJF. 195 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:46.279 MJF in his sleep you know, you know how some 196 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:49.799 people sleep talk in his sleep talk? Could torch Becky 197 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:56.919 Lynch much less a fully conscious, rested MJF. I don't 198 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:59.559 I mean, she can't truly believe this. She can't believe 199 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:02.399 it herself, So I don't know if she's trying to 200 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:06.039 fool Becky Lynch. Just is zero for two here and 201 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:10.320 then you got Biggie oh for one. All right, Well, 202 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:12.559 if I've still got you with me, and you're currently 203 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.360 in the middle of writing a review that I'm I 204 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:20.600 don't know, some kind of some kind of hateful, sexist whatever, 205 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:24.279 continue I don't want to interrupt, So continue with that review, which, 206 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:26.840 by the way, those reviews help me, So go ahead 207 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:29.480 and post it all you want. But let's get to 208 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:32.320 the backlash, alright, because that's where you're here. Let's talk 209 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:34.240 about John Cena, Let's talk about Randy or I'm going 210 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:36.840 to go right to it, because this match was awesome. 211 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:41.120 I know a lot of people, including myself, looked at 212 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:46.519 this as a match that ended our childhood at least 213 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:53.440 our our ruthless aggression or ruthless aggression childhood era. It 214 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.440 was a way to close that chapter forever. It is 215 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:59.600 the last time unless something changes. But I doubt it 216 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:02.159 that Randy Orton and John Cena are ever going to 217 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:07.120 have a match together. So that's kind of sad that 218 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:12.720 we see that also kind you know, kind of appreciative 219 00:13:12.759 --> 00:13:16.240 as well. It was an appreciative, sad moment. I don't 220 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:18.360 care that John Sena is heel, doesn't matter to me. 221 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:21.480 That meant nothing. He clearly meant nothing to the fans 222 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:23.919 afterwards too, who were still channing for Cena and thank 223 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:26.120 you and all that who were cheering for him after 224 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:28.360 the show and off the air, And I want to 225 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:32.480 talk about that moment too, because I still think it's 226 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:36.879 a work. Meaning John Cena is appreciative of that moment. 227 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:39.759 I'm sure he felt that moment in real life of 228 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:41.720 the fans saying thank you, and he had this look 229 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:45.000 on his face of just sadness as the reality of 230 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:47.480 his career coming to a close is starting to really 231 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.879 catch up to him. That that's what I read in 232 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:54.360 that moment. If you watch the after show footage where 233 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:56.120 he's holding his belt and the fans are channing and 234 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:00.240 he just kind of walks up the ramp, and then 235 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:03.519 after the show he ends up saying that, you know, 236 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.759 to the reporters kind of in a very monotone voice, 237 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:09.159 that you guys, you know you deserve a little better 238 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.159 you you know you earn your chance to be here. 239 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:13.879 Somebody takes a question or gives a question to Seena, 240 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:15.840 and then Our Truth interrupts and we know what happens there. 241 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:20.320 Scena gives Our Truth an AA through the table during 242 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:24.960 the post conference, the post press conference. So I still 243 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:26.840 think John Cena's heel. I know a lot of people 244 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:28.679 are looking to this as a baby face turn. I 245 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:32.279 think it's a red herring. It's him trying to loop 246 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:35.639 us in just to drop us again. I think he's 247 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:38.879 trying to double down on it. We saw this a 248 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:43.120 couple of times throughout you know throughout history in w 249 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:46.679 big turns, including stone colds. If you remember again a 250 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:51.559 failed turn, Austin ended up turning heel. It's wrestlinga seventeen. 251 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:54.519 No one wanted to see it. And then he comes 252 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:57.960 out the next and that under raw and looks like 253 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:00.759 he's gonna whip Vince McMahon's ass. He doesn't. He turns 254 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:04.399 again on the crowd, and then actually a third time 255 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:09.360 he ends up as the whole Alliance versus WWF. At 256 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:12.919 the time was going on. Vince said he needs the 257 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:17.440 old stone Cold. Austin eventually gives him that old stone Cold, 258 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:22.240 but turns again on the WWF joins the Alliance as 259 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.679 the leader of the Alliance to try to triple down 260 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:29.279 on his heel turn, which still didn't work. So I 261 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:31.600 think we might be getting that from Sena. It might 262 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:34.639 be a trap that we're all supposed to fall into 263 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:37.120 where the footage is shown and ww wants us to 264 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:39.480 see it and seen it seems kind of humbled and 265 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:41.879 he realizes the error of his ways, only to drop 266 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.480 us again. Now, John Cena's final match I believe has 267 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:49.519 been announced, or at least his final date. It's going 268 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:52.559 to be in December at the TD Garden in Boston 269 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:57.679 for his final appearance slash probably final match, So we 270 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:01.720 do know when, at least the location, so there is that, 271 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:03.639 but just be careful of that moment. A lot of 272 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:05.519 people are looking to that as a baby face turn, 273 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:07.879 but I don't think that's coming yet. I think he's 274 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:12.360 going to really try to, you know, give it a 275 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:15.399 second chance here. And I have to say, John Cena's 276 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:20.919 heel turned has been very strange. It doesn't feel right still, 277 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:22.840 and maybe that's because you have twenty five years of 278 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:25.000 somebody being some a certain way and then when they 279 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:27.519 turned suddenly, it's it feels a little bit like really 280 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:31.519 a quarter century apparently you faked it, you know, But 281 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:34.559 I don't. I don't think that this was still the 282 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:36.840 wrong choice. I do believe that John scen to turning heel. 283 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:38.879 I would have if given the opportunity, I'd still do 284 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:41.480 it all over again, because I'd rather get to the 285 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:43.679 end of John Cena's career and go, eh, Well, that 286 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:46.120 didn't work the way we quite hoped it would. The 287 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:48.399 success wasn't as high as we hoped it was going 288 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:50.799 to be. The numbers and all that, and the reception 289 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:55.159 but you know what, we had the balls to do it. 290 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:58.440 To me, that is more important that you actually went 291 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:00.120 through it, even if it didn't work out the way 292 00:16:59.919 --> 00:17:03.759 you hoped. So what I'd rather know that than go 293 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:05.640 back and go oh man, but like what would that 294 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:08.880 have looked like? So, but the match was really good. 295 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:11.920 I enjoyed their pacing as we expected. The pacing of 296 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:14.680 the match was was awesome. Yes, the kickouts of finishes, 297 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:18.000 the aa IS is about as effective as a closed 298 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:20.240 line at this point. We've known that for twenty five 299 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:25.119 years as well. No Travis Scott, we had the obligatory 300 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:27.640 ref bump. The ref took a hell of a belt 301 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:30.839 shot off his face by the way, woof, And then 302 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:34.079 all the you know, all the manage, all management comes 303 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:37.440 out and Nick all this comes out, and all of 304 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:40.519 you know, the agents come out to try to look 305 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:42.440 at the and help the referee, which, by the way, 306 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:45.960 why wouldn't he have just sent another referee out? If 307 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:47.759 this match is so important, how can you not have 308 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:50.920 somebody officiating it? What are you doing out there? Just 309 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:53.640 send the medical team out? What are you gonna do? 310 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:57.119 They're the trained medical professionals, you know what I mean? 311 00:17:57.200 --> 00:17:59.759 So logically, it didn't make sense for any of them 312 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:02.119 to be out there other than bring out the EMTs 313 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:06.599 if you think there's something going on and immediately have 314 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:09.839 a referee at hand. I mean, this is something and 315 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:12.160 I know it's pro wrestling, and I'm not actually hammering 316 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:14.240 WWE because it's pro wrestling, and this is just one 317 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:16.640 of those holes we have to accept in our brains. 318 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:20.200 Is with how many refs take bumps, especially during main 319 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:24.000 events that's been going on for like fifty years. How 320 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:27.319 does not have a backup ref at the ready to 321 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:32.559 go so there's no gap in the officiating of a match, 322 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:36.160 you know what I mean? It takes forever for someone 323 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:39.720 to come to or for someone to come from the back, 324 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:44.920 and there's this several minute gap. How is that even possible? 325 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:49.960 After it happening nearly every single time, especially in the 326 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:54.720 modern age it's much more common. But Nick, all this 327 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:57.720 getting the RKO and you know, five other people, six 328 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:00.759 other people getting the RKO is funny. You would think 329 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.000 that this is the third time now that Nick Alldos 330 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:05.079 has got in the RKO. It's going to lead to something. 331 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:09.400 It has to, and I would think it's got to 332 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:12.400 be Nick alldis not just finding him. Maybe he comes 333 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:17.559 out on SmackDown, maybe he does say he's Randy Orton suspended, 334 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:21.079 but maybe Randy Orton shows up. Anyway, RKO is him 335 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:23.480 a fourth time, and that's what snaps Nick. But he 336 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:24.920 could also come out and say, you know what, I 337 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:27.440 was gonna find him. I was going to suspend him, 338 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:30.119 but I think I want to punish him in a 339 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:33.880 different way. And he shows his ring gear, right, I 340 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:37.079 think Nick Aldis taking on Randy Orton would be fun. 341 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:41.039 Why not be a fun, little little kind of side 342 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.359 show there. I'd have no issue with it. Nick alldos, 343 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:46.119 I've been waiting to see what he's got left too, 344 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:50.960 So that'll be a fun response to a third RKO 345 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:56.319 on Nick all this. But yeah, the match ends with 346 00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:01.000 a belt shot and John cenor Saint as she should have. 347 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:04.480 I know we're in Saint Louis, it's Randy Orton's hometown. 348 00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:09.480 I get it, But did anyone truly believe that Randy 349 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:11.839 Orton had a chance, especially the way that the build 350 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:14.640 led up to it and Randy Orton RKO John Cena 351 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:19.920 like three times on the way to their match at Backlash. 352 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:22.440 If that wasn't a telltale sign that he was going 353 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:24.279 to lose at the Plee. I don't know what was 354 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:29.039 all right? So what other matches took place beyond the 355 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:32.160 main event? I mean I spent twenty minutes here talking 356 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:36.119 about Biggie and Becky Lynch. And now the main event. 357 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:40.160 Let's go to the actual Fatal four Way for the 358 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:41.960 United States Championship. I know in my previous show I 359 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:43.440 said it was one on one, but that was because 360 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:45.720 the PREVIEWRS reading was wrong and I thought they changed something. 361 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:48.759 But no, it's Fatal four way Jacob Fattu Drew Mcatire, 362 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:52.160 Damian Priest and l Knight for the United States Championship. 363 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:56.200 Crowd was really in Fatu's corner here. I mean, they 364 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:58.279 still see a star, we all do. He's got a 365 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:04.200 very much Umaga. Look. Umaga had a great face for 366 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:07.839 the business, a great marketable face for the business. He 367 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:12.359 was believable, he looked genuinely mean, he's got that trait 368 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:16.240 going for him. Fatu is to me reminiscent of Umaga 369 00:21:16.359 --> 00:21:20.920 in a lot of ways. And so this match, let 370 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:22.400 me just give you the time here. Do I have 371 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:22.759 the time? 372 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:23.160 Yeah? 373 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:27.519 Eighteen minutes just under a shade under eighteen minutes where 374 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:32.759 we had a Jacob Fatu retaining the United States Championship. 375 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.480 I think a lot of people anticipated this, but boy 376 00:21:35.599 --> 00:21:39.839 was I mean the match was just really good. Now, 377 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:44.279 up until the debut of Jeff Cobb, we did have 378 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:49.720 a bust ass match as expected, the Claymores, the kickouts, yes, 379 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:54.319 the kickouts of a zillion finishers, and that needs to 380 00:21:54.680 --> 00:21:58.720 just stop. Someone in w W needs to get in 381 00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:00.759 the ear of triple h. And can we just make 382 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:04.279 it a policy. Can we have just like maybe a 383 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:11.119 running lottery where like per month, per month, there's but 384 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:15.720 maybe three kickouts of finishes, not including house shows. I'll 385 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:19.279 let how shows do what they want, but include any 386 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:24.000 televised event. There are only three times in total for 387 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:26.440 every match televised that you can have a kickout of 388 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:29.920 a finish. So we start to re educate the audience 389 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:33.960 that kickouts of finishes are exciting, they're unexpected, they're a 390 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:37.240 big moment. Even the announcers don't even get excited anymore, 391 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:40.640 or at least they can't even pretend to get excited 392 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:43.279 about kickouts of finishes. You can hear in their voice 393 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:47.039 that they anticipated Michael Cole is like, I had a 394 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:52.279 Claymore from McIntyre and you know he's won two, you know, 395 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:55.319 and oh in five two kicks out, Like he's not 396 00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:59.279 even excited when there's a finish because he knows that 397 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:02.680 he's you know, he's seen it a gajillion times, so 398 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:04.640 he's not even going to try to sell it because 399 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.359 he doesn't even believe it in the pretend world. That's 400 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:10.440 how beaten down we are that we can't even play 401 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:13.680