Speaker 1: Yeah, fights, Yeah, fights time, get off the face. Hello,
ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the six hundred and
fifty six sixty five six episode of Gee First Podcast.
I am I guess still the man without a name dress.
Speaker 2: Now, and I'm joined by I'm the brand new boy.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm doing this.
Speaker 1: Yes, ladies and gentlemen, don't adjust your headphones, television screens, whatever.
You might be a little prompt episode because we have
lots of news talk about today, and then me and
dyl are still doing Weekly Geek later on the week,
cause in the next three days we got the Disney
Semicon presentation, Paramount Universe or no yet no, I think
it's Disney, Paramount Universal, and Amazon MGM. So there's still
four things to go. Most of them provide some good
news we can talk about today, except for Warner Brothers
because for some reason they just love it doesn't matter whatever,
they just love. Shouldn't the bed now, I get it.
So it's be like, oh, well, it's not Comic Con.
The rumors are not even going to Comic Con, so
that happening, and then today they just even then. I
don't know if it was a misquote, but there was
a quote going around that. When the presentation started, James
Gin's like, oh, we got lots of surprises and there
was really nothing. They showed the clip that's gonna be
on the Minecraft movie. I'm not gonna go see that
now because I've heard the clip. I'm like, okay, I
like Crypto, but there's nothing to break down there. So
but yeah, I just so I had them in the
show notes for people wondering we won't talk about it
because there was literally nothing to talking about. They showed stuff,
the didn't release anything, and you had just thought that
they talk about clay Face or Batman two or Sergeant
Rock or even Supergirl. Here's the weird thing. It was
like two days ago, it was like, I don't know,
sixty year anniversary, Supergirl something right, And all I keep
doing is showing million all Cock on set with like
a jacket around er. So clearly they're high in the suit,
right thought. Even again, some hype because CinemaCon is more
for like the theater exhibitors, like it's supposed to be,
like why does if dyl let's say you own theater chain, right,
and I'm coming to you and be like, hey, this
is why you need to carry adrenal chrome for X,
Y and Z. Right, this is why you need to
be excited too, and that's what it is. Of course
we get tow we've got tons of news to talk about,
but like just even showing like oh and then twenty
twenty six we got Supergirl and giving them that first
look of her in the cost she was like, oh,
i'd be something, but no, nothing. I'm not saying this
is indicative what's gonna happen with Superman. I really don't know,
but I just feel like every time this comes up
for some big chance, like it's always a sum and
I feel like this happened. You know, we're on our
ten year anniversary coming up here, and I just feel
like always happens someway or another happens. Yeah, So I
don't know. Maybe they just want to bank on Superman
that much, but we don't have that to talk about.
Speaker 3: But I blames aslove. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I just do you good.
Speaker 1: You could be like, hey, they're not showing a bunch
because they don't even if they're gonna be around in
twenty twenty six. You know you've read some of these reports.
They're looking for replacements, they're like, fuck, we better hope
Superman works or it's over for us. I don't know,
I hope not. Like this was why when people talk
about like if you care about this stuff or budgets,
it's like, because I don't want to live. I don't
want if we get the GV twenty for us to
be reviewing movies that come from Apple, Amazon, Disney, and
that's it. Like I don't want that future. So I
want more and brothers to succeed so we can have
more stuff. Like that's the thing, and I just don't
see it. But uh, there's a lot of things I
don't want that we're getting today or maybe not want.
So we're gonna talk about a bunch of stuff that
didn't even think i'd every time about Once upon a
Time in Hollywood. Sequel is supposedly happened in Netflix. John
Wick five is happening with Keanu Reeves. We've got Spider
Man news. We got lots of stuff here, so let's
get into it. I had to pulp some stuff. But
they didn't talk too much. But Sony had a presentation yesterday.
They did reveal that you know, again, we talked about
a couple of months ago Across the Spider Verse. That
was the movie that's supposed to be out last year.
Now it's coming out on twenty twenty seven June. So
remember we talked about that when there was like rumors
or his issues and then the directors and producers what
not gonna be like, don't worry, there's there's no issues.
So I don't know, three years from the release date,
I feel like there was, you know, maybe some issues there,
but they just said the animation is so I don't know.
They said they are doing new techniques and they're saying
it's so no amazing that they need they needed extra time.
So we got that dated though, we got Spider Man
Across the Spider Verse coming out June twenty twenty seven,
and then we got the official date of July thirty first,
twenty twenty six, So next summer for Spider Man, brand
new day. I wouichh. I should try to throw up
the logos here, you guys just kill time because I
do have more like to add on this. But what
did you guys think of you? Like this title doing
anything for you? I know it's just a title, but
I have more to hit you with here. In a second,
I just want to bring up a picture.
Speaker 2: I don't love the title. I did like the font
for just that. I know it's like very minor, but
like it just it seemed different than what I've seen before.
It seems new.
Speaker 1: You think that edgy, but there's a reason you like it.
It's subliminal messaging. So here's the last right, there's the
Home trilogy, and then there's the Spider Man trilogy. So
what I will pull up something here in a second.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of like this, like the old Spider
Man font though, like.
Speaker 1: It's funny, you might say that familiar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my New Day portion just yeah, it's not the
best for me, but I'm trying to font for the
brand of Day.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find it. But there's a guy I
can't remember his name because I didn't know this. I
didn't want to want to show the guh.
Speaker 3: Chat in.
Speaker 1: Yeah only sends me those saturdays, thank god. But no,
I I gotta find it because there is art. It's
all art from like the nineties and two thousands that
like lunch box toys. There's this guy I can't remember
what his name is. I've just fucking blank. I learned
it the other day, but like, that's why it's like
I won't say ripball, but it's pretty much that where
it's like all the stuff that we grew up with.
There's a reason we like it because it's like it's
that same type of art we've seen our whole life,
with those big bold letters and everything. Of course I
can't find it. If someone in the chat, if I
was anyone in the chat.
Speaker 3: We know what you're talking about. Artists, so mission accomplished.
Speaker 1: We get it, I know, but I wanted like a
visual aid, but I don't have it. But yeah, how
are you feeling before I hit you with some some
other stuff here?
Speaker 3: Too? Similar to Brave New World for me? You know
we got the middle word is the same same three words,
brand new. I keep saying one. It keeps saying brand
new boy, but sorry, it's brand New Day. I'm looking
at Kirk. It's a great name, Brand New Day, Brave
New World a similar. I don't like it. I want
something fresh and new. I mean these hold this whole
trilogy or I guess the trilogy is so far and
then this fourth one here never been the greatest with titles,
so I guess it's continuing in that lineage they want
to differentiate. I'm sure there's some great comic book run
that this is connected to, and it means a lot
for people who read that comic book, but I have not.
But you know, I guess it's fitting after everything we
where we ended off after the third movie, there makes
sense that we're gonna have a brand new day. So
it's okay, don't love it, but I mean I'm not
too bothered by it.
Speaker 1: Can I get rid of that? There we go? Yeah,
it's funny you mentioned that it is off a comic
book arc. It's off a very controversial arc, so I
have some things. But here's what I was talking about.
This is I guess his name was Scott Johnson, and
this is the type of stuff that was like cho yeah,
like if you look at this type of stuff and everything,
and he the guy even shared the art, but it's
very much that type of look. And absolutely give me
that xpuction because they talked about it. It's on. It's
fusing if there's a new suit or not. Because there's
a quote where it sounded like deaths and said new costume,
and then there's a quote where he just said the
costume so obviously people are very worried because everyone loves
that No Way Home end suit, and I feel like
it's kind of it'll be even worse than to me,
Like I don't like the update they gave Sam suit
in Brave New World, so I think this will be
worse if they get rid of that No Way Home suit.
I feel like it's gonna really pistol upial up. But
it just fits with like a lot of the art
is it looks like that n Tom Holmes suit. But
so I'm gonna give you the two things that are
kind of suspicious about this. Oh yeah, look at that.
Oh yeah, yeah, not the exact same though, that's more
the nineties video game. But yeah, I get I get you.
So the the arc of Brand New Day comes after
One More Day. I think it's One More Day, and
it's a situation where finally all goes right for Peter.
He gets married to m J. And I have not
read this for a long time. You can find multiple
episodes of it. Brent absolutely hates this arc, so does David.
He said he was on a plane last night and
he was ready to jump off when he heard the
title of this movie. So what happened was he gets
Peter gets married, all like kind of it was considered
the Spider Man franchise at that point in the comic
books that they were taking lots of leaps forward to
be doing something different, right, like MJ knows who's Peter is,
they're getting married, they're doing all this stuff where it's like, okay,
we're gonna get some new territory. X Y and Z
happens and he has to make a deal with Methisto
that literally just reboots Spider Man where MG no one
knows that Peter Parker's Spider Man. They're no longer married
x Y and Z. People hate this arc, and that's
where brand New Day is. It's very similar to where
we are now right where you know, people don't know
who Peter park is, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Plus the Home trilogy did things kind of differently than
we've seen before.
Speaker 1: Yes, so there's some things like that where there's some
sentiment that say, Okay, that's a little maybe two samesy
for people. But what I was gonna bring up so
there's two things where I'm gonna read you the comic
book arc and then I'm gonna read you in October,
there is a production grid for the Spider Man movie,
but then in the end of it it said ak
brand new day. So people are wondering if this now
and the release date was really close too, so people
are wondering if this production date thing is actually kind
of because that can sometimes slip. Sometimes things can come
out where it's like, oh, why is that there and
gets to the cracks like that's how casting happens. A
lot of rumors and stuff. But I'll read that after.
So the com book one is following the events of
One More Day. Spider Man's marriage to Mary Jane Watson
has been raised, resulting in adjustments to his own history.
Spider Man's secret entity has also been forgotten by everyone,
including people news identity for you know, blah blah blah.
Let's see, I'll go to the next page. That doesn't
do anything. Spider Man has not been seen in one
hundred days. Do the implemation of the Superhuman Registration Act.
I don't think we're getting that. That's like Cecovia cord
I love this specific days mon, yeah, very much.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Peer decides to visit Daily Bugle and shocked to learn
about the publication severe financial troubles. Unfortunately, stress takes a
toll on Ja Joon and jayeem To suffers a heart attack.
I guess they could do that. I don't know, but blah.
After encountering super villain Menace, Peter is concerned that Harry
might have returned to his goblin glidder ways, but Harry's girlfriend,
Lily Hollister provides an alibi. X Y and Z is
in the comic books lots of stuff to do with Harry.
People have wondered if this person Lily Hollisters who Sadie
Sink could be playing, because me and kriklen To talked
about this last week that there was a casting. They're
casting for someone that fits the description of Harry. He's
a young he's a twenties college kid who's like well
off and everything. Someone's like, oh, that's Harry. So there's that.
Now that's a combook thing. This was something that was
like that put out of October. This is like the
production one blah. Following the events of Doomsday, Peter Parker
is determined to lead a normal life and focus on college,
stepping back from his responsibility as a spider Man. Don't
want that. However, piece is short lived, with a deadly
new threat emergers and dangerous his friends and forcing Peter
to reconsider his promise. With a reconsidered his promise with
stakes higher than ever, Peter didn't returns to his Spider
Man identity and finds it teaming up with unlikely people
to protect those he loves. Other people listed in this
movie where Andrew Garfield spider Man, Michael Keaton as Vulture,
and Robert Downey as Doctor Doom mentioned to join the cast.
So that's kind of production group one. I like, I
don't think that's like. I don't think those three names
are like out of the realm of possibility at all.
Like Downy makes sense. This movie is literally it's a
month after month or two after Doom's day. It makes
sense he's in there. Keaton, I know they kicked him
off to the Sony Verse, but like no one cares,
like they're not gonna No one's gonna carry Pops back
up and Andrew Garfield, if we're doing multiverse stuff that tracks.
The only thing to me is that plot, which that
could have easily changed by now right, The idea of like, oh,
Peter's given up Spider Man. It's like, I thought that
was kind of the point of knowing whim that he was.
He's given up Peter Parker and he is Spider Man,
So I would like that, especially as we're just kind
of doing that again with Daredevil as well. Like the
hero giving up is like I want to get back
into Spider Man when he's full on Sider Man, less
Peter Parker. But Dylan from the comic book side of
Brand New Day to this production listing, how do you
feel about these are kind of some of the theories
people are kind of trying to put together, you know,
what could be happening with this movie now that we
have a title because very loosely they adapt comic book stuff,
but it is still a title from the comic book.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I mean, I think the idea of
him like wanting to stop being Spider Man and just
lead a normal life. I really hope we're not going
that direction, because yeah, obviously it's just gonna be a
thing for like thirty minutes and then we get into
him having the suit again and like doing that, and
then obviously we just go from there. So it feels
like a bit of a waste of time. But I
also feel like after both the events of the Spider
Man trilogy, but even more so just like the Avengers stuff,
it's like, why would he stop being Spider Man? Like
I feel like he realizes more than ever he needs
to do stuff, or like people are gonna die and
bad things are going to happen.
Speaker 1: And why wouldn't he try to win MJ back? That's
the whole thing, right, like, oh, I'm putting her in danger. Well,
if you're on Spider Man, wouldn't that be the time
to be with them? You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, So if we take that part out of
it and we just take the rest of those plot points,
I think that could be a pretty decent setup for
what we're doing here. Obviously that this connects nicely with
the Doom rumors that we had last week in terms
of him being in Spider Man, and that's why you
know Tom Holland specifically is not in that Avengers movie,
so that all connects there. Volt I don't know, there's
something nice and symmetrical about that of him being in
like the first Homecoming, like the first of that trilogy,
and then presumably this would spin off into a trilogy
that the New Day trilogy, the point the brand new Day,
and then like the old smelly Day, and then like
the you know Tomorrow Day whatever these like new movies
are gonna be called.
Speaker 1: Mike put it. His prediction was one. I think, he said,
one more day and then may day. Might you can
correct me? I agree, one more day, maybe one last day.
Speaker 2: That's what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said. I think one last day
could be it.
Speaker 3: I don't know time today, something like that.
Speaker 1: May day. I'm but one more day, more last day,
for sure, I think.
Speaker 3: But I like, I like mad it would be fun.
Speaker 2: Time today, No time today.
Speaker 1: It's just a poster. They kill him off the same
with Daniel Craig, like holding the Buddy. MJ was pregnant,
he had a kid, she had a kid and found out,
you know whatever, they're they're allD not. They're in college now,
so it happens. What could be fun, though, is Vulture
could finally come face to face with with the version
of Tony Stark. You know, remember that's how he became Vulture.
Speaker 3: And you know Doomsday Fox, not the one he wanted
to encounter, but the one he'll he'll take interesting. So
I guess why do you guys think that if we're
doing Garfield, like why why just one? And why if
you're only picking one? Why why Garfield specifically? Is you
think that like Toby's like more selective about what he
wants to sign on for or is it like specifically
story that we get this specific spidy.
Speaker 2: What do you think for just just Andrew versus Toby
in there as well? I feel like maybe there's just
a little bit more I don't even know though I'm
talking myself out of my own thought there where I
was gonna say there's a little bit more substance to do,
like story wise with Andrew of just like he he
lost his Gwens, so I don't know, this is like
a new setup for something for him, whereas Toby's like
a little bit more just tied down and the like set,
like he seems more on the retired side, whereas Andrew
not so much for me on like I don't know,
just just looking at it to try and find like
one specific answer for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, money, it doesn't be a bigger it doesn't really
connect super nicely with like the rumors, and there's been
so many rumors, so it's like obviously not all of
these rumors are going to be true. But in terms
of the one of the rumors being may Day character
who would be like, I guess the daughter of like
specific like Toby, like Toby's Spider Man and MJ if
that was the path we're going. But once again, maybe
that's like, if we are doing this thing where this
is Brave New, I keep wanting to say Brave New,
Brave New, braave fucking brand New Day. Oh my god,
I hate this title already. And then if the next
one is may Day, okay, maybe that's when Toby like
rolls into this trilogy and we get him there, and
actually that could be kind of fun if we build
up to that again where it's like, Okay, this is
the Andrew movie, you know, plus Tom holand of course,
and then we get like the Toby wan and then
maybe they're both back or who knows what the heck
happens Like all that's that's years and years away at
this point, but I mean, I'm down for it. I
feel like Garfield as well, like there's more kind of
what you're saying there, Kirklan. I feel like there's more
that he needs to show off and more like good
movies that he needs to be in with that character,
and some more focused time of him not being like
something that comes in way later in the movie and
split it to Hi him and Toby like we got
last time. I mean, I mean, I'll take any of
these guys coming in here. I think it'll just be
super fun. But I think he maybe has a little
bit more sauce that we can do.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if you do a situation where like,
for some reason, Peter, you know, Peter one is trying
to get his aspier man and people back, and you
get Garfield and then you get Sadie Sync, but that's
the reason because she is from the Toby Curson world
and that's where she comes in because she's their daughter.
It's like, oh, I got the wrong Spider person, but
it's their dag and for whatever X, Y and Z.
You could also have her do like the Gwen Stacy
thing into the Spider Verse, where she's pretending she's not
who she is right, Like she's not maybe gonna come
out and say like I'm from a multiverse and I'm
so and So's daughter, Like that might be something weird,
but maybe she could represent that the Toad McGuire world.
I think in a practical sense, it's two reasons. One,
it's definitely money, Like I'm sorry, Andrew, but Toby's gonna
cost more and he's gonna ask for more. And I
also think that Andrew Garfield's way more passionate about the character,
So I feel like Andrew Garfield will be willing to
like play ball in the price or I feel like
told McGuire, I'm not saying he's not passionate, but I
feel like Toby, as before, is quite the shark in hollywoods.
I just feel like he's like, this is my number
and I'm sticking to it, and they kind of know that,
so I feel like with them, it's like, well.
Speaker 3: Save that for a secret war like the Toby money.
Put that, put that into a different jar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we only want to pay this once, so we're
gonna pay it here and again. And even though I
have converted, I'm completely on the train, I do not
agree with this. I've converted that like Andrew Garfield is
the best Spider Man after No Way Home, It's like
I think I put him top dog. But as I've
said before, if you got two posters of Hugh Jackman,
Andrew Garfield and Hugh Jackman and Toby the Hugh Jackman
Tooby one, that's that's the gravy, right, So that's where
I think you save him for that, And who knows,
maybe he's just there to like set up, like we
need your help on this, you know, like maybe it's
he's just like a stinger to get you somewhere, right.
And I've kind of liked this theory that I heard.
I've heard on multiple podcasts. I didn't have it, we
haven't talked about it, but I kind of like this
idea where if Doom knows that on the six one
six MCU that you know Tony was there, he was hero.
I would love the idea of Doom showing up and
pretending to be a trustable character and then making the swap.
And if you got that, imagine if there's some sort
of situation where R. Peter thinks this is a new
like a Tony from a different ultiverse. But he's like
Toby and Andrew, he's a good guy. He's here to help.
And Andrew's kind of like no man, like if he's
doing his owl multivers stuff like no, like this guy
is not the same guy you thought you knew, Like,
I think there's some fun you could do there. So
I'm actually really liking this theory people have of like
Doom pretending he's Iron Man for a point and then
that switch happens. Because if you were to have Doom
come in proposing as a new Iron Man and just like, hey,
the multiverses are trouble, I need your help, it might
be similar to the Mysterio thing, but like everyone would
believe him, right because it's like, oh, well, we fought
with a version of this Tony and he's probably a
good guy, so and like he could easily use it
against Peter that's like a fatherhood figure, right, So and yeah, Keithan,
I don't know how he gets back. But you know,
this week I was very happy they did an interview
with Tom Hardy and he said that at one point
the Spider Man Venom crossover his plan, but politics gone
the way. And I just shared that Ryan Rayilds h
Jack and like, thank you Kevin Figy gift because I'm
just like and that's and then there.
Speaker 2: Was a scoop that put out I won't play it,
but no.
Speaker 1: It's it he deserves because we're probably never gonna yeah,
here you go.
Speaker 2: Memories, bringing back your I won't forget you, buddy, I'm
happy interview.
Speaker 1: That's the last time we're seeing that guy. I'm we
can all read between the lines. Hardy's a nice stuff guy.
But they're like, no, that's not happening. And then one
Scooper put out the yeah, they got plans for Venohim
in this trilogy that has nothing to do with Tom Hardy,
So like, all aces for me, that sounds great. So
and because Secret Wars is coming up, he has the
Black Student Secret Wars, So I think that's what's gonna
happen one way or another. But Mike asks, don't we
know the events of Brand New Day will happen at
the same time as Doomsday. It's conflicting because there's been
reports that it's after and there's been reports that's at
the exact same time. To say like, oh, this is
nothing that we know right now, No, there's nothing we know.
And even this announcement, they didn't say much of anything
other than Tom Holland just saying like, that's exactly what
it is, the Brand New Day, and it's a new
take on the character and stuff, which I hope is true.
I hope it's not just word service and like, yeah,
we're doing something new, like I hope when we watched
this movie, it feels active different than the whole movies,
you know.
Speaker 3: Hm, A quick question again, So we got the release
date you said today? Was that's why we have officially?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, so what what does that relating to other release
dates of things?
Speaker 1: So Avengers doomsdays may something I can get.
Speaker 3: So we're getting a similar like endgame and then Spidey
follow up thing interesting, So yeah that that could make
sense for setting up Doom there and then him popping
over to Spidey's world for a bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it goes apparently the release schedules looking like well,
people are guessing with the TV shows and stuff, but
like twenty twenty six, we've got spider Man, Avengers, Daredevil, Punisher,
Vision X Men, and spider Man so smart like friendly neighborhood,
so like, I think they're kind of smart. Though at
least it's only two movies and Punishers are special and
then the other ones are animated, so like, even though
it is still seven projects, I feel like that's a
much better balance of like two.
Speaker 3: Movies all of them are like SQL series, which is
a little bit less risky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I give you a look at that, like two
animated shows, two TV shows, two movies, and then a
Punisher special that's like a mini you know, straight.
Speaker 3: To Sorry Daredevil. What was the other TV show Vision?
Speaker 1: Vision? Yeah, I forgot that was the thing. Yeah, I
think most people it's it's kind of a weird time
for them to be doing it. But maybe if Scott
Witch is coming back, let's gonna tie into something I
don't know, but uh, and then obviously Secret Wars is
supposedly in May, the year after Avengers, so you got
that kind of one two three punch, you know.
Speaker 3: So other than you know, obviously Vulture and like the
Tony Stark connection, like what do you what would you
guys want from Keaton and Vulture in this movie?
Speaker 1: Because I guess he also like do they use some
sort of weird kabuki thing that because he was in
the universe, he didn't get affected, so he comes back
somehow and he still knows Peter is Spider Man, Like
I don't think they do that, but like that could
be a twist, right of like, oh, this is the
one person that.
Speaker 3: Knows I'm I don't think they're gonna reference a post
bit of morbious though as like a plot point, right, No,
probably not. I think that I don't know, is there's
something weird of like because I don't know if we
know if he was snapped or not. But I'm wondering
if he like escaped prison during that time, or if
he like has served his sentence. I don't know what
his sentence was. I forget to feel it killed people,
but I don't think.
Speaker 1: He kind of I think there was.
Speaker 2: Manslaughter and nervous some light some like man slade, he's
just picking up garbage with his wings. He's just flying around,
just doing his orange best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really don't know it's.
Speaker 2: True, because I feel like what makes that dynamic of
those two specifically in this story with Keaton and Tom
Holland is like the fact that they like he knows
that he's Peter and just like the closeness to that threat,
Like that's just what makes it so enticing. And his
connection with the daughter who's like not going to be
in this movie, right maybe maybe she's still come back, you.
Speaker 1: Know, unless if he is going to college, maybe they
bump into each other. Right again, though I just that's
always my problem with the Toby movies. With this, he
should not date anyone that's not superpower, because what if
he does bump into whatever her name what was her name? Crap,
I can't remember. Is it Michelle?
Speaker 2: No, that's no Jones, man, it's Liz is Liz? Yeah?
Speaker 1: If he bumps into her and he's like, oh yeah,
I kind of liked her in high school. Like to me,
it's just like, then, what's the point, Like she's just.
Speaker 3: We're getting their car scene with Vulture in the front again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's ready for it this time. So but
you could bump, you could. I would not mind having
that character come back and her him them being friends
in college, so that's the way you could.
Speaker 2: But they don't know each other, of.
Speaker 1: Course not, but I mean, like that's how they get
They were friends before, so maybe they're friends.
Speaker 3: With the impressions every day, I will say on the record,
I don't think she's coming back. I don't think he
has anything to do with this movie.
Speaker 1: I don't think so either. But or maybe with these
rumors of Harry Osborne, maybe she's like dating Harry Osborne
and that could be a way in Like I wouldn't mind.
Speaker 3: How isn't that Sadie Sinks character is supposed to be
doing now potentially she's Liz.
Speaker 1: They think Liz is not in this movie.
Speaker 3: All Pizza bit, either of you, Liz is not in
this movie.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not thinking that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna laugh though. When we wake up to Hollywood
Reporter being like, guess who's back. It's it's Liz Allen.
Speaker 3: But she's playing Madame Webb or something crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's like, who the hell is that?
Speaker 2: We don't remember that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't buy the whole that. I don't
even know if I buy that's who Citie Sink is playing,
like I need to like because I just feel like anything.
Speaker 3: We heard her playing like seventeen characters at this point,
so there's.
Speaker 1: Even like I think, like a female. I think maybe
that might be menace. I think it's a female goblin.
Hang on, I can.
Speaker 2: Pull man, let's go the goblin heard of it again?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh I know here, I'll pull it up right now.
That's who is one of the villains in.
Speaker 3: Oh my God, this is terrifying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a brand new day arc right there. And she
does have red hair. So people are like, that's who
she is.
Speaker 2: Like man like Scarlet Witch went to the golblin side.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a couple of different versions. There's there. There's
that one that if you scroll down, there's of course
one that just has like her boob z oon and
he has huge green boobs and you know classic marbles.
Speaker 1: Oh and that's a little bolster. That's the character who
they thought.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, and that that's Red Harry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's the boobs one. Yeah, I'm gonna say
that the like oh, and there's oh and then look
there's on this earth Harry Osborne was Manes Sadie.
Speaker 3: I think as a goblin, Wow, I don't know. I
don't know about that.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 3: I've doing the acting like that before.
Speaker 1: I've pitched it before, and I think me and Kirk
can we tell us on newscasts where it's like, I'm
definitely more in the camp of I'm down for a goblin.
If they don't want to do green goblin, do hog goblin.
But like I would like, I wonder if I'm in
a room where Kevin sits me down, they're like, you know, Sony,
they want to make a gobgb moves, they're not doing that,
but like we're thinking about manus, like maybe like is
there a way that like espallys there wasn't e staking
going home an amazing cover where she was being interviewed
about having Dave Sperman, there you go, Dylan for the
for Liz, she could be coming back. So how you
how would you guys feel about it? Like actively, let's say,
they said, because like again that would be the old
Like the last trilogy, they were trying their best not
to do villains that Sonya had done before, right with
uh with Shocker and Vulture and Mysterio.
Speaker 3: So in the third one they do the exact same villains.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, but like for the at first thing,
I started so like, would you guys be down for
like a female goblin? I guess like I don't. I
don't know. I can't remember the art good enough for me,
Like that's a great character.
Speaker 3: It just feels like maybe maybe she's not a goblin
in this movie though maybe that's the thing where we're
setting up building up to something like that down the road,
because if we already have Doom in this movie, and
like Vulture as well, like I don't think we need
a third villain. I mean, I guess if we have
Andrew Garfield coming back in here too, like maybe they
do need like a bunch of people to fight. But
I don't even know how much Doom is gonna be
like a villain or if he's just gonna be a
plot devicey like guy there, you know.
Speaker 1: I think Doom would be in two scenes tops maybe
just end credit. And I think there's a chance Michael
Keane's not Vulture, right or if he has, he's like
an opening villain they just like do Morbia style, just
get his voice again, like oh some about Spider Man,
Like that's all they do. So like I could see
that there was another rumor today they're casting a male
villain that's thirty to fifty year range. So I don't
know what that.
Speaker 3: Means, but I guess we haven't really had a lot
of like women villains in the Spider Man movies in general,
so I'd be down for that.
Speaker 1: For have we had anything to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was immediately thinking of like Olivia from the
animated one, but like live action.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we had dog Gawk Goblin and then Venom
and sam Man for Toby, and then we had Green Goblin,
Electro and Lizard, and then with Tom we've never had
so there's actually never been a live action female villain,
so you know what, I can actually be sold on that.
Then if they're like, hey, we want to do a Goblin,
but we don't want to do it, And wouldn't that
be a fun switch where let's say Peter meets Harry
and they do cast in Norman and the whole time
Peter thinks this Norman is gonna fucking turn in the
Green gomin but really it's Sadie Sink, like the girl.
You know what, that's actually fun because like the.
Speaker 2: Whole the normal on the boob suit, it's like, wait
a minute, that's not Norman.
Speaker 1: Like that would be fun. Like the whole time you think, yeah, Norman,
Like we as the viewers would think, oh, Norman Osborne's
gonna turn. He would think the same thing. He just
went through noway home where a Norman Osborne killed his aunt.
So you know what, I could see the pitch where
that's the flip where oh no, it's actually Sadie Sink
or whoever that's menace.
Speaker 3: And shan you get Coleman Domingo for that, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be good, even though I'd be disappointed he
never be Goblin though, right, Like if they do that.
Speaker 3: Route, well you know there's always room down the road.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going back to formulator, or they're gonna make my
man Ultimate Goblin where he's fucking Coleman Domingo and like
the Harrison Ford Red Dot scenario. I don't want that.
Speaker 2: But the voice though, the voices absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I've kind of sold myself, like I
could be convinced a menace, a new Gobbles sold.
Speaker 2: I'm sold on it. I I like just different versions
or variants of a familiar type of character I've seen before.
And although this isn't just like an alternate Goblin, still
a glider, you know, got a sweet suit. Something about
just villains with like a red cloak that just gets
me going, takes me back.
Speaker 3: Give like you know, jumping bombs has some like cantalope
bombs or something else like squashes.
Speaker 2: You know, there's many washings. Yeah, I'm totally down. Let's
let's get many Goblins and let's into the Goblin verse,
you know in the Spider Man universe. Whatever gets me
to hob Goblin.
Speaker 3: Brand new Goblin of the second movie, I.
Speaker 2: Have two great goblins. For everyone got Hobgoblin, I'll be happy.
Speaker 1: I know. See, I think if you get Menutce, you
don't get Hobby. I don't think that happened more.
Speaker 2: Like just in this just in the Tom Holland.
Speaker 1: Ones, because I feel like there was other rumors like
ever weeks ago, but they there was this group that
SAIDs like, oh yeah, they they're trying to map out
this whole trilogy.
Speaker 3: I feel like it was supposed to be a Hobgoblin
right at some point in time.
Speaker 1: He is in the comics and at least is one
of the Hobgoblins. There's multiple, but he is one of
the hobgoblins. So and I don't want that. I don't
want that happen. No, I don't want that. Like Peter,
I think clear, if that's venom thing is true. I
think the clear trajectory is whatever this movie is venom
and then Miles and Tom's out, like you know that
six one hats Toms out or yeah, yeah, no I
think so, Like I think that's playing.
Speaker 3: His character for sixty three years.
Speaker 1: I think till he's ninety. So yeah, throwing Norman as
the gold and.
Speaker 2: Gone, I don't know that the jeweled he's wearing like
a cane, I'd be cool.
Speaker 1: Don't stereotype. You're getting call into Mango and you're making
him have a cane like Kevin. This doesn't play well. Yeh,
I'll share the screen. But I'm actually not digging this look.
I feel like I've actually never heard of this, to
be honest. He's looking to no offense like whits listening.
He's looking to power Rangers for me. Oh, this is
what he's good, right, isn't the first? Yeah? That okay,
now I remember, Yeah, this is when he's good. Yeah,
you could do that, get Coleman and Mingo to be
the cool guy. But yeah, I don't love this, this,
this all this, it's too much over.
Speaker 3: I like the glider vibes, Like the glider looks like
a yu gi oh card so I'm into them.
Speaker 2: Oh absolute, yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah we'll see. But there's give me hob gum
you know, so and please like even though I love Listen,
I own the replica of the Foe. I love that outfit,
but like, I'm still waiting for this too, you know,
I'm still waiting for the skin tight goblin whatever and
there or the Cadie sink one the skin tight. You
know they saw the drawings, were like, so we gotta
do so what the people want. But yeah, I don't
know what that that's. Yeah, there we go, there's gobble,
who's all these gobms? Gold gum? Last image here? Oh
there's too much here, Marbert WICKI never mind, but we
will see what happens. Anything else on this story.
Speaker 3: All that you guys more or less hyped on the movie,
everything that we've heard today up down.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say more, even though I don't love the subtitle,
just just get me enticed getting closer to more spidy content.
The font, I really really love the font. That got yeah,
more juice than I would have expected to be. But yeah,
rand new Boy would have been a better title.
Speaker 1: What we know. No, I'm more excited because we know
that I like that font, which could change. And I
know we're not doing the home titles anymore. I don't
want them to do the day things. Really don't do that.
But like at least we're from home.
Speaker 2: And like the time to day these room it's like.
Speaker 1: Even both ones of like The Menace or even like
down a Vulture and Garfield, like I'd like to see
Garfield back, but that's I really was hoping last night
for her, at least just a synopsis other than like
Peter has a New life, like I still don't I
need just that two sentence like Elevator pitch. I think
once it's gonna be kind of like Spider Man three,
which was fucking a crazy day when we found out
Jimmie Fox's come back as Electro. But that's really what
I need is once I get one film confirmed, I
feel like that will gauge my excitement because like if
they were to say, hey, yeah, say the things playing menace,
then we kind of okay, it's kind of that type
of story, and I think I would be more excited,
I guess, because I guess that would maybe mean we
get Osborne. So yeah, I'm definitely more excited. I'm I'm
excited because in the last two weeks we've got in
a casting. We say, you sink, we've gotten a date
and a title, so that means we're we're cooking, we're moving.
So yeah, Dylan, you're more excited. Let's say you asked.
Speaker 3: I think slightly up, slightly inclined. Yeah, okay, well.
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I just got the notification, Charlie. Sorry, Charlie, I got
the notification Val Kilmer's passed away. That's such a bull man.
Oh man, I'll probably do a tras told you on
that because people know my story, my whole life. My
uncle and I have always been like, you look like
fal Kilm. You looks like Val Kilmer and made me
grow like a liking more of his career because I
who do I get compared to? And also he's played
Batman and Top Gun. But uh man, shout out, shout
a Val, what a everyone if you haven't even if like,
oh see, everyone's busy, but if you're not even the
biggest fan. On Amazon Prime, they did a documentary about
like his career but then also his sickness when we
got the throat cancers. The two hour doc and it's
really good. It gets sad and that act, but then
there's like a happiness near the end. His son narrates
the documentary for him. It's yeah, it's it's really good
and it's a good look in life where this is
a guy that's an actor, that obviously you lose your voice.
That's a like a crushing blow. But you can see
kind of how he finds life after. But man, sixty
five not, that's not even like a super old age.
So yeah, shoutout, shout out to vel Kilm or a
big recipees. That's a that's a big piece of my
childhood gone right there. Man, that's fun.
Speaker 3: Is top three top three Velkilm roles.
Speaker 1: Well funny enough. You can check this out. Last month
we did our football like draft like pool thing and
a clay tombstone and we had to watch that. That's
where he what's the sickness he has? Again? Kirkled and
it's a cowboy movie and he has he has like
some sickness that's killing him. Oh yeah fuck yeah. But
he he plays it really well. So it's like this
kind of dying out cowboy that's still trying to be heroic.
But he's like Dylan, he's so charismatic in this movie.
He has like ten of the fifth more. Yeah, he
has ten of the fifty most coolest lines in that.
If you've ever seen them put on. Yeah, if you've
ever seen like, I'll be a Huckleberry. It's the way
he says it and the way he does it, he's
such a cool motherfucker. So I'd say that Kirklan will
appreciate this one as well. Heat. He's so good as Heat.
That's the bank heist movie with Pacino and and Arrow,
and he's like the younger guy. He has like long
hair and he's the classic like has a wife, have
a kid, trying to get out of the heist thing.
But he's just like very cool. Oh, I'm trying to think,
like two are not tombstory. Sorry blanket on the movie
obnoutly Batman, but I wouldn't put up there. Lots of
people are gonna say top Gun. He's like Iceman is
like that's a care You talk about charisma right there,
Like that's charisma sex appeal, Like that's so damn good.
But oh and fucking we gotta watch this me one day.
Me and Tarry Kirkl have been wanting to be based
a movie. One of our movies come up is a
little inspired off that is a top Secret. It's a
it's a spy like parody movie in the eighties. And
I should pull up, you know, talkium passway. We're gonna
I'm gonnaull up a little best off here, but it's
like some of the best like humor going on in
a movie. I'll pull it up. But it's very well done.
Like they don't make spoofs like this anymore, but.
Speaker 3: Well said detail. Just pre ordered my Tombstone Steel book yesterday.
That is am That is crazy timing, Kirkle, you have any.
Speaker 1: I didn't mention, Oh say, did I mentioned Batman? He's
a Batman so that's uh, you know, lost and note.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I feel like like you listed some some
big ones in there, but like randomly or or not randomly,
I feel like he actually had quite a few projects
that were just like big movies for me growing up,
Like obviously Batman would be one of them, the original
top Gun, so like I just always like had his
image or his face like somewhere, and even though I
hadn't seen like Tombstone or or like the other ones
that you had mentioned, like back then, it was just
I mean, if you play Batman like it's you're you're
gonna be the of a lot of young'in's growing up.
And I I, you know, I always loved him as
Batman and kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
Speaker 1: That's another one he did right before he got sick.
It was with him and Downey and it's down He's
like comeback movie after he got in all this trouble.
And he's so good. I can't remember the characters named
a gay something. And he's he's so charismatic. Yeah, he's so.
He's so damn good in that. He's so good the dialogue. Yeah, no,
he's man. That's a big one. Yeah, here I got
I got a couple. It's only a few mins things,
but it's worth some of this. Don't give me an
ad here. But there's some stuff where like he was
breaking out very early. But where is it here? No,
don't give me that one. Okay, here, give me this
one here there's good stuff.
Speaker 3: A little chopping.
Speaker 2: It's like a past with a Dylan to come here.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's a chopping. Now.
Speaker 2: They really don't make movies like this anymore, like this.
Speaker 1: Little that was shipped like that. There's a classic one
right here. Oh where let me find.
Speaker 3: That's what I imagine A thousand Beavers is like as
a movie.
Speaker 1: This is much better than A thousand Beaver. A thousand Beavers. Sorry, sorry,
yeah sorry, just I got two more to show that
are like.
Speaker 2: Two more five minute videos.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, just classics here of this. I don't
think it has any audio. There you go sensor, but
hang on the actual classic this clip you'll see is
like a gift many times kirkle knows what's coming up.
Speaker 4: It's it's like thumb stuff all throughout in the night.
Speaker 1: And I got one last one. And this scene though
was like really like like like very well done, Like
I don't know how they like, I know how they
shot it, but like it's impressive for the time it
was so don't want yeah, full spread soup. So he's
getting a fight here, yeah, hang on. So so they
fall off bridge and they're gonna fight. Yeah, so in
the water here.
Speaker 2: What are we gonna be doing some water scenes one day?
Speaker 1: So so they okay, they're fighting underwater. So yeah, okay,
regular just action movie. They're fighting under the water. And
then oh there's a stool there, you're a stool.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, just shot the audio effects too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then so there's a whole barn. This is great,
there's the whole like and look at this, like this
is a huge set. He's like underwater, like look a
channelier just threw from the water roof. Like the whole
movie is like riddled with stuff like this, And I
remember my dad showing it to me. Yeah, my dad
showed to me. I was like, ah, like it's when
I was like young, like oh this seems old. He's
even a rope, but open the water, you know. Yeah, man,
it's twisted stuff. Yeah, so won't won't continue. I could
go on forever, but yeah, I'm watching those this weekend.
So yeah, big man shout out to valcim Or. That's
that's a huge loss. Truly will be missed. We didn't
do this quickly. What have you guys been watching because
we haven't done this segment? While I'm like, oh, we
should do this, and when w B didn't have a panel,
I'm like, okay, we can quickly shout something. So don't
want Are you even watching things that Internet lend you
watch it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, normally it's great, except for tonight when I have
to watch the show and do two podcasts. Of course,
that's how it goes. I mean, I I think I've
been on and that what we've been watching segment in
like a month and a half, so a lot of things.
But I'll just shout out three things. Yeah, three things.
I picked up. One's for you, Kirkland. Have you seen
Ponyo the Gibli movie?
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I just watched that actually really you know tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that is like one i'd never heard of
until I watched it a few weeks ago. And yeah,
I mean the cast is insane. Yeah, yeah, super super
great cast. I had a really great time with that one.
I mean, of course, the art and animation is as
fantastic as it always is, the colors and whatnot. But
I feel like with Gibli stuff, I always struggle just
with like the ending sequences are always so wild and
crazy things happen, and I feel like I lose the
plot and I don't know what it's about anymore. And
sometimes that's good because I can interpret it, and sometimes
I'm just so confused and I can't. But this one,
I felt like I actually came away with it with Yeah,
I understood the message and like it meant something to me.
And so really really great movie. So shout outs to Ponyo.
I love how just a very silly movie, as a
lot of the Gibbie stuff is, but sometimes they're more serious.
Sometimes they're more silly. I appreciated the silliness of this one.
Speaker 2: There's like a good guide out there that like tells
you like a good age range for like studio Ghibli
movies because like okay, because they're all over the place,
Like Princess Mononoka is like way more for like adult
audience members, like there's blood, there's violence in it, whereas
Ponyo it's for like all audiences. Like I showed a
couple of years ago, Shane, I show that to my
sister and her kids, and they just they just got
enamored by it by just all the animation and just
the like when they're in the seat and you're just
seeing all the different types of fish going around, there's
colors going on. You have Liam Neesen like just talking
about whatever.
Speaker 3: Dude, his character is so good the whole way through
in such a funny casting choice for that character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm so glad that you watched that, because Yeah,
that's I think that's Shay's favorite of the How's Moving
Castle is close up there too, how I think it
is still my favorite. Like I just I love them all.
I recommend everyone watching all those movies and because they're
just such a good range of you know, age ranges.
Like I feel like there's a studio Ghibli film for
everyone out there. I truly believe that. So I'm glad
you watched it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Tina Fey as the mom too, like just hilarious.
Her chaotic driving on the highway like always stressed me out,
especially when it starts raining and stuff, but like.
Speaker 2: Don't go, don't go, I'm gonna risk it.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my gosh, this is all the reactions
from that character when she's just pissed off at her husband,
like lying on the bed in funny ways, like that
character is so much ye. So yeah, I really enjoyed
that movie. Another animated movie that I watched, I finally
watched Inside Out too, which you know, fantastic movie. Of
course it's Pixar, and you know, made me cry. It's
very emotional that all that good stuff. But I think
the one thing that I'm pissed about that I didn't
watch this sooner, like before Golden Geeks is like when
else am I gonna get the chance to nominate Maya
Hawk as like a best villain in a Golden Geeks
here It might never happen again, and so I'm pissed
I didn't watch this movie sooner because I specifically loved,
like that character of anxiety in that movie is so
fun and so well done, and obviously the movie pulls
on all the heart strings as as expected. So really
really enjoyed that one. But you know, it's Pixar, so like,
what do you expect? It's always gonna be great? And
then I think my last shout out is this really
weird movie that I watched recently called It's called Jam
with it with a D at the start and I
looked at us up on IMBB. Apparently it has like
a that was the original title. Now it's called Journey
from Greece is what it's called. This is like a
French movie, I believe, or maybe a Greek movie whatever
it is, you know, not in English, but a very
silly like travel movie kind of between these two characters
just going across these borders and they have to do
like one simple task, and then of course, like all
sorts of crazy things happen and they lose this thing.
A lot of things happen in like a very big
Lebowski way at times where it's just like things happen
for kind of no reason, and then we just kind
of roll with it, and then the movie ends up
being about other stuff. Or I'll just get like a
five ten minute long sequence of characters just like singing
a song and it has like no plot in it whatsoever,
but just a super weird vibes movie, really great acting.
I've never seen any of these actors or director, writer
or any of these people before, so it was kind
of a fun, just really weird pocket. I feel like
I don't really watch a lot of foreign movies, and
it's something I should do more. So this one was
a really good time. I'd definitely recommend.
Speaker 1: It nice, But you also we know which one movie
even you watch.
Speaker 2: Yes, I watched Ponyo. I also watched How's Moving Castle
again because I nice. That's easily probably my top three
Fairite movie of all time, if not higher. Like I
love that one so much. I think it's a truly
perfect film. It was around the time when a bunch
of people on our discord were going to see ghibli
films and in theaters, and I was just feeling left out,
so I watched two of them back to back. But yeah,
I watch that. I also a little while ago, I
watched the third act of Doune two, and then I
just wanted to watch Dune, so I.
Speaker 1: Watch the movies now, so he plays games, you know.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to watch the climax, you know, at
the end, and then I just had to watch them.
So I watched Dune one and Dune two, both parts,
and god, I fucking love those films. They just get
me amped. Yeah, watch that. I also finished Delicious in
the Dungeon, that Netflix animated show about the dungeon delvers
making food and fantastic so good. I think season two
is maybe coming out next year, like twenty twenty six.
I didn't realize it was leaving on like such a cliffhanger,
like it was twenty four episodes the first season, but
it like it's a really like okay, the adventure is
still underway, like by the time the first season ends.
So I'm glad I didn't watch it last year, you know,
a little bit less time to wait for the next season.
But yeah, it's it's truly fantastic. I recommend it to
pretty much everyone. I don't know, it's it's an anime,
pretty much anyone. I'll recommend it if you know, like
there's an English version. I guess, as Netflix usually has
for all their animated stuff. You're not convincing Travis, he's
not watching this, but yeah, could.
Speaker 1: Be a surprised. I didn't pull the trigger on a
movie recently because Kirkland, because we haven't. I don't think
we've announced this if not, but for July or August,
we're all gonna pick one movie to retro because we've
always a retro, so we're all gonna pick one. We
all have to use like a ten year thing. And
Kirklam might have an anime movie you might pick. So
I held off on watching it, but I did hit
him up and be like, hey, tell me about this,
and there's another anime. It's wind Down around the time
Intergalactic that game showed and they listed all like the
inspirations and I was like yeah, and other stuff too,
and I was like, oh, you know what I like.
I like the entire vibe. I'm like, maybe I should
give a shot. And I liked that dragon Ball movie,
not the live action one when we watched a couple
you know, so I've been a bit more broaden the horizons.
But yeah, I'm not jumping on it, jumping on right now.
You know it's slow and steady.
Speaker 2: So you just need to get some studio ghibbli in
your house and then the girls will just love it
and then you'll start watching them all is yeah, is that.
Speaker 1: The same that's the same type of vibe? Is what's
the one we watched a couple of years ago for
it's the same studio? Okay, yes, yeah so and that's
yeah because I feel like I have like high hides
of that movie. And then there's those things that annoy me.
And that has a lot of anime, there's a lot.
Speaker 3: That's like a lower tier.
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, that's true, so yeah, maybe I'll dive into it.
The girls I have to do with Anmily is not around
because she didn't like anime. Wow yeah she one time
said she's like, yeah, she said, people watch anime are
are weird? I'm like, what about Kurkoes? Well not those
who but yeah, yeah of course right.
Speaker 2: But like, god night, I'm gonna I'm gonna bring that up.
Speaker 1: Remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody save me, somebody.
Speaker 1: Helped me up.
Speaker 3: And sure yeah yeah, oh I never save an anime
fan leaves you to bleed out people.
Speaker 1: Turn Around, run Away.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, beyond that's I think that's it. I think
that's the main hitters for me.
Speaker 3: I'll quickly showed out detour any White Lotus fans. I yeah,
I am caught up on White Loatus. Really enjoying the season.
I was shocked because ever the season, the first two
seasons are six episodes, and so I was watching the
six episode, I'm like, wow, we're wrapping up here for like,
there's so much to do, and then I realized that
there's two more episodes of the season, which is exciting
to have even more White Loatus. So yeah, this just
show is great. It's kind of my favorite show on
right now. It's insane and weird. In the Sam Rockwell scene,
which I'm sure you maybe guys have seen some memes
about that, it's just absolutely crazy.
Speaker 1: He just kind of rand like, hey you want to
do Thisnike, Sure, and yeah, I'm excited to get there.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but yeah, super super enjoyable. I think it
so for it might be like my bottom of the
three seasons, but like it's three great seasons, so it's
still really solid. And yeah, one more episode, so hopefully,
I'm sure the finale is gonna be pretty pretty wild.
Walton Goggins fucking treasure. I just love everything he's doing
and he just being a pissed off like older guy
in this is just every Sceneason, even if it's not
a comedic scene, I'm just dying laughing. And there's something
about him. He's able to The faces he makes are great.
So chows that show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said to his agent too. So I feel
like just the projects that he's been part of, it's
just fantastic.
Speaker 1: Except for MS you they didn't get him a good
role there. Remember they wake come back for fuck Like
that's a that's a perfect norn Osborne right there, you know,
like he's great. Yeah. No, I'm excited to get Crave
next because me and Emily, because the kids they're back
at school. We're finally watching shows and that's where getting
some of my stuffer watching. We're watching Adolescents that show
on Netflix.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I watched all that too.
Speaker 2: Actually we're on we're two.
Speaker 1: I'd say we're like seventy five percent. We got the
last episode and then someone like it's like I think
ten minutes last the third episode and then the finale.
How was that for you?
Speaker 3: I yeah, I forgot to write it down in my
notes just because once again it's mental lung says, we
don't one of these sequences. Really love that show. I
think it was a really interesting sort of meta take
on like so many you know, we get so many,
especially Netflix like crime doc things, and I feel like
this show is kind of a commentary on those in
a way. I don't really want to spoil too much,
but it's also I feel like tackling like how those
kinds of things affect like families of people rather than
like just the immediate people involved. And I obviously like
the every there's four episodes. Every episode is like a
one one take, one shot kind of thing and one
that's what's really there's no fake in it. It's fucking crazy, Dylan.
Speaker 1: You need to because I was looking.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm looking for like a it to zooming
on a wall at some point, and I could never
catch any in those moments. It felt very authentic and
very immersive, and it made this whole show feel like
more real. So, yeah, that show is really really good.
Speaker 1: I had it's a tough watch because it's yeah, very
I think, very realistic, very powerful, like lots of like
messaging has to do it today. But yeah, Kirkland, even
though it might be up, Yeah, the acting screat I'm
not sure if you and Shade's like, that's a movie
and I thing, but even for yourself, you should watch
one episode of like because we you know, spoiler for
our third film, we got a wonner and that was
a pain in the ass to and it's nowhere, nowhere
good as this. You know, we had one of that
involved stairs and man it was a fucking bitch to
get but we got it. But this they'll do a
full sixty two minute episode and it's a wonner because
they use drones. And then what they did is because
Emily told me this, and I'm like, there's no way
because I'm gonna talk about the studio in a second.
In the studio they said that too. But there's multiple
times where like okay, that's a cut. It's like Burbandsyle
right where it's like, okay, you can see it. It's like, yeah,
like the inspiration is a wonner, but like it's not
a full thing, right or even nineteen seventeen, these episodes
are legitimly a wonner because most of these episodes they
built the sets, so like the school, the prison, that's
just a set. That is all they've built and gone together.
And it's impressive. They'll go from outside into a house
into a prison even though it's a set. And what
they did is they had the actors like really rehearse it,
and they filmed these episodes like ten times, and they
said they treated it like a play. So that's how
they did it where people had to be on cue,
on their mark. That's why there's other times where there'll
be two actors standing somewhere and they're talking for like
five minutes because they're setting up the next room. And yeah, Dylan,
what you should do is if you just google it,
there's a twenty minute Netflix YouTube video and there's five
minutes on each episode and you can see how they
did it. It's fuck. It's when Emily told them like
there's no way they did like a sixty minute one,
Like there's no way they pull that off, and it's
it's crazy like it is, and it's gonna win all
the Emmys this year. It's like the show by itself,
even if it wasn't the wonder Thing is that good?
But like that on top of it, it broke my
brain of like if one person fucks up, you just
gotta start the whole thing over. And it's just I
couldn't believe it. I was sitting there like I would
never do this, Like and kudos to them that there
shows my filmmaker prows like I'm like, you tell me, Like,
luckily it's just a mini series, but still it's like
almost four hours of like Wonders. It's like that is
just bomb again.
Speaker 3: It's bonkers, and there's like, yeah, a lot of things
that happen in these episodes, like I'm moving between various
locations and yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Nuts, it's crazy. See I definitely watch that. We're gonna
finish that this week. And then yeah, I watch the Studio.
If you listen to this podcast of any interest in film,
you gotta watch the Studio. It's an Apple, It's Apple.
It's a seth Rogan when he takes over as a
new studio head. It's so fucking good. Episode two is
all about getting the shot and yeah, I told kirkl like,
you gotta watch it because especially when us we've shot outside,
it's like we've been like, oh, Sun's going down, Like
Soun's getting real a little big guy, and it's like
this whole episode about like they're trying to get the
gold Maller shot and everything's going wrong, and it's just
it is like I heard the hype and I'm like, ah, like,
I bet it's good, but I don't know if it
can be this good. But it is that good, and
it's so like it feels like the show was just
written yesterday and then produced and put out there. It's
like so timely and so on the money. Martin Scorsese
has a role in the first one, and Steve BUSHEMI.
They're fucking so good and there's a cast list of
so many people coming up. But highly recommend it's it's
really good. If you like film anything without this industry,
have to watch it. And then yeah, I've just been
watching hearing things there. I've watched wolf Men today. I
liked that I'm catching up on movies am seen. I
liked that enough, I think more than other people. I
saw a letter Boss was pretty low, watched Hard Eyes
Not for Me, not my Bag Baby at Yeah, I
was hoping, but and then I Want Me and Emily
went through the Bridget Jones series, which I will say
overall like fine series, but there's a shot. The fourth
movie is all about grief and there's a shot. I'll
just say the balloon shot. Am I had to look
at me like, I know, I get emotional movie. I
literally I was bawling and I looked at him like
I don't even fucking love these movies. But it's about
dealing with grief and a part and it's just like
they just like did it so well, just putting into
this great scene of how you're dealing with it moving on,
but you want to keep that person in your life
and all like the struggle, and I could not like
all these movies to me, you're like six out of ten,
like seven, like they're nothing like I'm gonna love. But
this this like second act segment, it got me. It
fucking broke me. It's the most of grind since Logan
died in the fucking the X Men movies. And it
was just like, man, it stuck with me. And uh yeah,
so just as rom Con series hit, something going on.
But yeah, that's that's what I've been watching. So and
uh yeah, that's about it. So what do we got
next here? Okay, So I'm just gonna throw a bunch
of stuff at you that have been announced in a
little bit here. Uh Zelda trophs okay, Zelda live action
movies ificial have been dated for March twenty twenty seven.
Come from this. There's Scooper saying that it's planned to
be a trilogy. They're casting actors and the ideas that
you're signing on for three movies in six years. So
the Nintendo and Sony haven't come out out right said
this is what it is, but supposedly in the contracts
of casting, it's like you're signing up for a long venture.
So we got Azelda trilogy. They are releasing in twenty
twenty eight. We've talked about this before, but they confirmed
it officially four Beatles Movies in April twenty twenty eight.
They've not said if it's going to be the same
day or if it's gonna be weekly. But they got
a huge cast with Paul Maskew and Barry Keyon and
Harris Dickinson and who's the other Joseph Quinn, So they're
getting all the British Instagram people. Today was now confirmed
that we're getting the Cane spin off for John Wick.
We're getting a prequel anime movie about the night where oh,
they I think, okay, we'll get back to that. I
suppose said there about the bills thing, We're getting a
John Wick prequel anime movie where if you guys remember
where they're like, oh, John Wick one night had to
go and kill a bunch of people to like make
himself a free man. It's about that. It's like his
his night to become like, you know, a regular guy.
And then they confirmed they did. They just said we
have a story and Chaska See and Keanu Reeves are
coming back for John Win five and then uh, this
one is supposed to be for me and Kirkling. But
Dex Original Sin renewed for season two. So what's uh,
what's juice in your gums? Right there? Out of all
is Dylan Zelda trilogy? You ready the gums juice?
Speaker 3: My gums are maybe not totally juiced, probably a little
bit more gonna be squeezed out of them there. Yeah,
I mean I trilogy.
Speaker 1: That's bold.
Speaker 3: It means they're probably pretty confident it. We'll see until
I get a trailer more info and like who who's
playing these characters? Hard for me to feel one way
or the other about it, although I did really like
the Mario movie, so you know, if that's the one
thing we have to go off here in terms of
what quality could be like even if this is live
action like.
Speaker 1: The Nines Mario movie that we reached, yeah, yeah, that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, trilogy, that's kind of crazy, especially because
like a lot of the Zelda like, there's not really
Zeld the games that are like sequels to each other,
like you do get like a breath of wild tears
of the Kingdom situation, but most they are one off
individual stories. And even if you didn't do a sequel
breath of while they don't think anyone would question that, right,
just in terms of what it is. But also those
movies or those games are not really huge story games
in general.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they are, I guess, but interesting. We'll see what's
going on there. Sorry, just I can't remember. Did you
watch the news plan of the Apes?
Speaker 1: I did? Yeah, Okay, how'd you feel about? That's a
director from that?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: He was fine? Right for you? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I didn't really like it, But what a.
Speaker 1: Wonderful I should have asked, what a brand new day?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 3: The Beatles thing, the Beatles thing theater same day.
Speaker 1: As I was saying, he think they said they're the
same day. They're for sure the same month, because at
least at April twenty twenty eighth. But they're calling it.
Speaker 3: A lights these decisions because when these things bomb, I
hope the CEOs get fired and not the people who
work hard on these movie you know, like this is so,
I will tell you seven people will see the Ringo
one that one will bomb, and maybe they Barry's Ringo.
Speaker 1: You think Barry is.
Speaker 3: A box office seller? How much did Sulpurn make it
the box.
Speaker 2: Office huge hit on Prime?
Speaker 1: Though? That was the talk of that about Prime. I'm asking,
I know you're right, You're right, I'm with you. It's
I'm down for in the when I made that speech
with Warner Brothers and I want there to be more studios.
This is a concerning like man, like, is this something
that sinks your studio? I guess the good thing is
to shoot at the same time so they save costs
that way. And literally what they're gonna be doing is
shooting the same scene but from different by point of
views and aspects.
Speaker 3: Of Like that sounds like a great thing to release
on Netflix same day an awful thing to release in
a theater.
Speaker 1: I guess if any band, if any property, is going
to get this treatment, it should be the Beatles. They
are one of the most influential, important bands of all time.
It is just a question will people pay to see
this in twenty twenty eight, let alone will they pay
to see it now? This is now three years from now.
I do not know. I like I will say, like, like,
I'm a big Beatles fan, but they're not my top ten.
But it's not They're not one of my favorites, right, So, like,
I don't even know if I need this, but there
is point where if I can do it, I would
love to try to sit down and just do the
whole Beatles thing, sit down for all four movies one day,
just see like what the experience is like, is there
an order I should watch them? And does it pick
or choose? I don't know. So I appreciate them being bold,
and all I can say is I'm with them where
I don't think it's a good idea, but I hope
in twenty twenty eight it's like the Barbenheimer or for
some reason, this is fucking like it destroys it. Yeah,
the Beatlesheimer, but like, I hope it pays off and
they can go like, look, we fucking release four movies
in one day. It was this huge phenomenon, like no
one's ever done this. My fingers crossed that it works
out because that would be such like a cool story
and if any music's acting to do it, it would
be like the Beatles is the one that take the
chance on. Am I confident? No, but like we'll see.
But I think the movies will be great. Sam Mens
is a fantastic director, so I have every confident like
Skyfall American Beauty, like this guy's one multiple oscars like
he he's got the good So I know the movie's
qualities are gonna I think they're gonna have it.
Speaker 2: So hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, shikeld go in here. Do you guys want
to jump in on this?
Speaker 2: I think the Beatles thing is a terrible idea and
I don't see the world on how that's successful at all.
I think it was on Disney they released like a
Beatles thing a little while ago.
Speaker 1: Jackson did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard that was really good and I didn't
seek that one out, So I'm not gonna seek this
out at all.
Speaker 1: Barry though Joseph Quinn, you know, no and no world.
Speaker 3: Am I gonna see Barry as Ringo? I just he's
a good actor.
Speaker 2: Really, I don't think I'm gonna see the Ringo knows man.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: I think he's like pitch perfect, and then he can
be like the kind of oddball of the group, like
Barry is an oddball guy.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't think unsee Barry though.
Speaker 3: I think he's too iconic.
Speaker 1: He's too iconic, but he can't open too iconic, but
he can't open a movie.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I love Barry, but I'm saying that do the people
to the theater goers.
Speaker 1: Maybe Joker and that's helped him. You'll see none of them.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to see any of these no, you know,
I mentioned many times, I'm I'm bored of these music
biopic things. They all feel very by the numbers. I also,
way back in high school, I took a In my
high school, we had the history of rock and roll.
Was a classic old man and it was a good time. Kirkling,
you take that too.
Speaker 2: I had in English class, so that English room it
was just like banned stuff all around.
Speaker 3: He was a cool guy. There was like so much
I feel like a third of that course, or even
half of it, it was just like all about the Beatles,
and I feel like still since then, I'm like I
never need to learn anything about the Beatles ever again,
Like I I've learned enough Beatles for a lifetime, and
I'll listen to them. That's cool, But I don't need
to go and see their story here. So not for me.
I'm not the demographic for this. But also I'm a
big music guy. And if I'm not the demographic, and
we'll see who else is. Yeah, I'm gonna get one ticket,
let alone four.
Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's like a combo deal, you know, and probably
that's the only way they're gonna sell a Ringo ticket
is if they have a combo deal.
Speaker 1: I think Barry's gonna help. I'm telling you, you gotta
or if they I don't know, if it's if it's
not all day you put Ringo in the middle, you
gotta end with Paul or John and vice versa. You know,
like that, that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna buy four tickets.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be three hours. I think
they'll be around two. That's my predictions. All of them
will be kept to too, because you cover a lot
of ground in the same movie, so I think you
don't got to repeat. So that's only what eight hours.
Speaker 3: You know, are all four movies gonna be a one shot?
Speaker 1: Please don't make Samon to do That's why twenty twenty eight,
that's still three years away. So yeah, but hey, it's like.
Speaker 2: A video that comes out. It's him just breaking down
like good old Ian McKellan on the seventh.
Speaker 1: I can't do this.
Speaker 2: It has to be one shot. We have to committed
to show.
Speaker 1: I can't do this. The first two.
Speaker 2: Movies one shot. You have two more to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just keep going down, guys. I think I'm burnt
out of John Wick.
Speaker 1: We haven't even we haven't even got Ballerina yet.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, and I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm seeing that movie.
Speaker 1: I heard, Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: I I think I'm good. Like four was great. It
was a great send off.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I played the game afterwards, or maybe I played that
right before, and like, I think I'm good. I think
I'm good with John Wick. I didn't watch Continental and
I think unless Golden Geeks requires me to, I don't
think I'll be watching these ones. I think I've I
think I've had enough john Wick for a lifetime. I
think I'm ready to move on, just like I've had
enough learning about Beatles lore for a lifetime.
Speaker 1: If you had to watch the four Beatles movies or Ballerina,
john Wick five, john Wick Anime prequel and the Cane sequel,
what would you pick?
Speaker 3: Do I have to watch Continental as well?
Speaker 1: Or is that just the four movies?
Speaker 3: So the Cane spin off, I'll go see john Wick.
Speaker 1: Don't you feel like, especially if they're all john Wick
four Langso, don't you think after like eight hours your
ears are just gonna be like you're you're gonna get
a headache from those movies?
Speaker 3: I feel I already am at headache status of john Wick.
Speaker 1: Though, so were the Beatles? You know enough, but you're
gonna get that music? You know, you know what you know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd see john Wick. I'd see john Wick.
Speaker 1: Okay, follow up? What do you think would make the
better movies? Though? Out of quality of those four are
the Beatles movies?
Speaker 3: Remember we got Chad coming Chad's coming back for five right, yep,
he's back. What about the prequel? Who's doing that?
Speaker 1: Tvd Oh No, Donny Yene is directing his own prequel.
Speaker 3: See that's the thing where it's like we have different people. Wait,
I thought he was doing the Cane thing.
Speaker 1: No he is.
Speaker 3: Is there a prequel and a Cane movie or is
that the same movie?
Speaker 1: The Cane Movie is a spin off, the prequel is
about John Wicken is an anime.
Speaker 3: And Donny Yen is directing the prequel.
Speaker 1: No, no, Donniane is directing the Cane movie about himself.
So see Beatles, easy, four Beatles, the same director's done.
You're done, you know, combo ticket.
Speaker 3: I think I think that John Wick, you'll have one
or two great movies in there and then the other
two like yeah, it's fine. And then I think with
the Beatles, you'll get four just six out of ten's
you know. So it depends how you shake that out.
Speaker 1: Jesus okay, But.
Speaker 3: I think in terms of the Oscars, that's gonna be weird.
For the the Beatles stuff, it's like nominating this guy
for the role he played in four separate movies that
came up the same day.
Speaker 1: For one.
Speaker 3: Most of the time, these biopick things are like you know,
Oscar bait fodder, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they just nominate them for their own movie, right,
But that would be something that the Beatles could just
like take up the entire acting.
Speaker 3: Cap Ringo in the Paul movie, support they could take
up supporting and that. But oh my god, they're gonna
They're gonna fill up the whole category. It's just gonna
be these guys all in each other's movies.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure I pick one of those Beatles
movies for Golden Geeks and.
Speaker 3: You have to watch it, and they, oh, we all
have to pick one, and that should be you should
only have a limit of one that you're gonna have
on your draft for the year. That'll be fun all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should definitely all pick one for the draft.
All of us have one Beatle movie, which we think
like it's you know.
Speaker 3: It's gonna have the Ringo one, Travis, because you're so
confident in Barry.
Speaker 1: You never know he could be joker again at that point.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm more I'm most excited. If I had
to watch one, I'd watch the George harrisone because that's
my boy. But in terms of money, I'll go between
lens still alive.
Speaker 1: I think that's why, right, you get like, but.
Speaker 3: Isn't that more interesting because John Lennon is dead and
it's like, oh, it's the story.
Speaker 1: Of John maybe. And you got the Yoko stuff in
the John.
Speaker 3: Maybe Yoka's in there playing herself because she's on the cover.
Speaker 1: She's not, but Yoko is supposedly in these movies, so
and that will be a big thing the John movie.
I'm a John Lennon guy. Kirk war Yeah, Paula looking
at the postcrad is gonna be wicked. Do you have
a beatle?
Speaker 2: Kirkland, who's a beatle? Like?
Speaker 3: Who's the I think because Taylor is the ringo guy.
Speaker 2: I think my alignment so this is fitting.
Speaker 3: We all have a beatle all that's who she get
in the draft.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, Glad, but I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't want George Harrison in the draft. I want
I want paular John.
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out when we get there.
Speaker 3: We figured it out.
Speaker 1: I'm not with you, Dylan, but I'm not not with
you and the Joe Wicks stuff where because Emily like me,
and Emily had to come to Jesus moment today, but
the John Wicks stuff because I'm like, fuck, like they're
making my whole thing. I was on bock of stream,
but Top Boss on their view all this stuff lately,
it's like, so this is repeat for some people. I
do not want john Wick five. My pitch was the
only way I want this is Saw ten style where
it's a prequel, and my pitch always was dou john
Wick five, but it's about the night where he killed
everyone got away. And the second they announced that is
the animated movie, I'm like, fuck, they're definitely not doing
like two prequels in a row with john Wick. So
like what they're gonna do is they're gonna do the
fucking you Like s Web said, it was a fake
grave and he's been gone. They find him out and
it's like old man john Wick, and I don't I
don't want that. I thought they had such balls. Cahone's grapefruits,
whatever you wanna call it, Balva's bucking bombs, yeah, pumpkin bombs, yeah, anything,
massive melons, like whatever. Just the hood spa to say, hey,
we're not even say this is the final john Wick.
They're not gonna mark it that way, it just looks
like another john Wick and then they fucking kill them.
How bad ass it is, like how impressive? Like every
time we get there with like logan or something right
where it's like the last You Jackman movie, the last
Daniel Craig movie, this is like nope, oh so john
Wick and then we died Like wow, Like that to
me was an actual bold thing, especially with this franchise.
Each movie was bigger than the last, and there's no
like john Wick five will probably be the biggest one
because they're gonna market as the return of john Wick.
The return that's yet Da da da. But it's just
like it's similar to Toy Story where it's like I
don't want this, and I said to Emily, I'm like,
I know, we do. The podcast was like I think
I'm actively not gonna pay to see john Wick five,
just to be like like send a message to be
like I don't want this. This is not what I want.
I don't want to do this. But then she just
said to me, She's like, you know, everyone's gonna see
john Wick and it's just gonna be a hit anyways,
Like yeah, you're probably right, and then I just miss
out money because I don't review it and like, and
don't get me wrong, I'm sure Chad and John or
Chad and John, Chad and Keanu can make another great
action sequence blah blah. But I just think like Chapter
four was the peak. I consider Chapter four the greatest
action movie of all time. I've not seen every action movie,
but to me, that was an action movie epic from
the visuals, the sound, the acting, the twist that turns everything,
And to me, it's just this just sullies it. I'm
they did say, like, we have a story, so I
will fish you still wait till that synopsis or that
that's good that they said we have a story, I
meant in the way that they were very cagey about it.
They didn't want to talk about it. So I will
still give them the benefit of doubt. But I do
not want this and this still actively now, like once
it's confirmed John Wick, chapter five or Chapter four no
longer a ten and out of ten, like it'll be
dropped down to maybe a nine nine point five. But
still it's like it's like a coward's move, you know,
and people might be asking, like, oh, why do you
do this because you like the combook stuff that's completely
different where that's multiverse, like that's like you're kind of
built them for that, right like John Wick five or
four mix them up where he felt like it had
those steaks, and now it feels like it's kind.
Speaker 3: And it's also only been like a few months, you know,
it's actually been like probably two years, but it feels
like it no time has passed where it's something like, oh,
twenty years later, he actually is alive, you know, maybe
yeah cooler.
Speaker 1: And it feels just like with Dexter Original Sin, which,
like I'll say, like it's just for money. It's just
like the same reason why we're doing a Dexter sequel show.
It's just for money. And I guess what, I'm the
sucker because I'm gonna watch it because we have fun
reviews and I'm gonna watch fucking Miguel Product come back
and Trinity Killer. But so I guess I'm part of
the problem. And that's the thing I understand. But it's
just like they're just purely doing it because it's gonna
make money. And that's why I thought maybe I should
not see this. But it's just it's a difficult situation.
So and yeah, Caine, I'm like, I'm excited as long
as that girl's in it. From four like I liked
Kane enough, and then the anime prequel we'll see we
just talked about, Like anime, I'm still warm up too,
but like I'm not like Darby a massive fan. I
want an anime Beatles movie that'll be the fifth one
that put them all together. But nice Kirkling, you don't
jo and like, again, we haven't got Ballerina, so if
Ballerina sucks, that can definitely recontextualize everything I'm saying here. So, uh, Kirkly,
you did not talk about john Wick, Dexter or Zelda.
So the floors wears now.
Speaker 2: Ooh yeah for me with all of these, I'm pretty
much I'm pretty hyped honestly on all these john Wick. Uh,
there's some projects in the series already that I like
more than others. But yeah, now I'm keep keep keep
feeding me. I'm gonna keep eating it up, and even
if I don't love it as much as right now
I'm getting I'm talking john Wick first, but like across
the board Dexter stuff, it's funny. I'm I didn't even
mention that actually what I watched it. I started watching
Dexter again, the first show, only a couple episodes in,
but still that there's some things that are making me
identify some things out of the original Sin show, and
I'm like, oh, yeah, I think a little bit lesser
I think on the original Sin iteration of that storyline
or this character or something like that. But there's still
a lot of juice in that first season that I
really liked. I really like the casting. I think that's
the biggest thing for me. I just really like the
chap that did Dexter, and then deb of course and
Patrick Gibson.
Speaker 1: But Harry is awful. Yeah, there was like, oh yeah,
they're so similar. I'm like, you got no fucking you
need to rewatch that show. They are nothing alike. Like
Christian Slayers in his own little world. That is not
Harry Boygen at all.
Speaker 2: It's terrible police officer as well, like super dirty, super terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, terrible, terrible person he trained to some of the
serial kill He probably just locked him up. He's fucking
terrible person.
Speaker 2: Never. Yeah, he doesn't give his daughter, you know, the
attention that she needs or deserves. But I digress. So
I'm excited for that second season and then for the
Zelda stuff. I feel like like we first just got
wind of like the idea of getting like a film.
I'm not just like I don't know how that's gonna work.
It's not gonna fit that well. And then here like
getting the news that it's a trilogy. I think you
could actually do like a contained story amongst the three films,
like like the first movie could just be link like
like getting like the hero costume and like like kind
of handling his first like little mini mission, and then
you could like lead up to a big gannon event
or something by the by the third one. That's how
I would hope it's structured at least, not just three
tales that he just like defeats the boss, you know,
and then jumps onto the next one. But who knows,
maybe they're maybe they would tie it in with like
a different because this is live action, right, this is a.
Speaker 1: Live actional one, and the rumors are still doing an
animated one too, which is oh wild to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the idea that it is live action makes
me want it to be even more like a contained story,
like a like a complete which I'm I feel like
that would be what they'd be doing anyways. But still
that that is where I line. I don't know, I'm
cautiously optimistic. I think overall, for that one, I think
it's just such a big franchise, big title. Uh and
for that reason, the story will probably be fairly safe
and and with that, I think it'll be very successful financially.
Speaker 1: I think as long as that movies like a even
a six out of ten, that's like a billion dollars
right there. Like there's so many friends. Like if you
can really get immerse in that world, like if they
make a dog shit, then different. But if they can
just make it like somewhat decent, I think the like
that could be huge. And at least she like make
sure it at least looks good. Don't make it hap
them look like what minecraft's looking like. You gotta that
CG has gotta be on. And luckily it's the Apes people, right,
So it's like or the director, so I think he
has some you know, he can't say those movies don't
look good at least, right, So what.
Speaker 2: A wonderful day. Yeah, So yeah, I'm actually pretty optimistic
across the board for all of these. And uh, yeah,
let's get our mouth guards in.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised we never got the Wonderful Day drop. We
don't need to now, but uh, you know, I'm surprised it's.
Speaker 2: Not even in here anymore. I think we deleted it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Chris, I don't think I've ever seen that.
Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing it.
Speaker 3: I just heard you guys say it.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take our last ad break. We're just
gonna talk about the snow White box office and our
draft updates, and then we'll be right back. And we
are back. So as I pull up the draft updates
here because we're getting close to we're kind of coreter
with the year whatnot. April gives some updates, some are
coming to it, and but uh, snow White had a
sixty six percent drop, biggest live action drop ball time
first week, and made forty five million the next week
and made like twelve fourteen. I unluckily have it in
the movie draft. So that just fucking sucks right there.
But don't kirkle any theories of why, because like it's
funny where Lion King had a bad opening weekend but
then they had this big comeback made seven hundred million.
But then you have snow White. The rumors I think
it's gonna lose Disney, but like one hundred and fifteen,
one hundred and fifty million somewhere in there.
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, yeah, idea.
Speaker 1: It's like it's tough with the live action stuff, right
because you literally have one that was like a near
billion dollar movie and then you have one that's losing
you money. So I really can't be like, well, clearly
they're not working. It's like a I guess, pick and choose.
I don't know, maybe people just didn't care about snow White.
Like obviously it didn't look good either. I haven't seen
I won't see it by choice, but yeah, biggest drop
in Disney live action history there, So.
Speaker 3: That is crazy. Yeah. I mean at my office, at
my work, not often are people talking about movies. But
that weekend, you know, last like that Monday, last Monday,
a couple people in the office, you know, I did
this weekend, I saw the new snow White. Oh my god,
that movie sucked.
Speaker 1: Oh what a piece of shit.
Speaker 3: And like these are people that I feel like are
casuals and they just kind of like most things they see.
But still, you know, these people they went out of
the way to see this and they thought it was awful. Uh,
And so I've that's probably the indicator for me, is
like the word of mouth was just trash and anyone
who was like considering saying because one of my other
coworkers was like, oh that's out. No, I didn't know
about that. And then like the review they're getting from
multiple people is this movie sucks. Don't see it. So yeah,
I feel like the word of mouth is just so atrocious.
Perhaps that maybe that's, uh, that's what did it in.
Speaker 1: Plus like it did look good, like leading up to it, right,
Like I feel like all of us are like these
don't look good. And that's what I mean.
Speaker 3: I remember we were talking like a month ago about
that movie and I had asked, oh did that come
out yet? Like, and I am, you know when I'm
here every week talking about this stuff and I was
not even aware of it. So I don't know. Maybe
the marketing was just off too.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Then.
Speaker 1: I know, people they bring up because like Zelgri said,
some stuff Galga don't have some shaky stuff. But I
literally just think it's what's still I'm saying where I think, like,
doesn't look good and then the people that have seen
it for the most part don't have great things to say.
So it's like that just like sinks it right away.
So m hm, kurkling A theories sinks.
Speaker 2: I really, I have no theories. My fingers are so.
Speaker 3: They're so off the pulse with this on.
Speaker 2: I don't know if people were liking it or hating
it or anything like that. But from what I saw,
my judgments of the trailer, you know, and just the
buzz leading.
Speaker 3: Up to it, feel like Galgado might be a rough
few years.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I wonder what kind of gigs
she's gonna get in the next few years. I just
feel like her stock has dropped you in a whole time.
Speaker 1: Low give me that stone. Yeah, she said some stuff
that's filming right now. Rachel's likely has nothing film right now.
So yeah, and there's no wonder woman what.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's controversial, what did what did
Rachel's what? It was her controversy thing.
Speaker 1: There's two things. One is that she's shipped all over
the classic just talking about it's very much like it's
a man's story because like the Prince as So, which
I'm like, anyone cares about that in twenty twenty two
to now, just please do something else through your life,
like I don't know why you're that like your classics
right there. And then she's been very she's a very
vocal left wing person, like very very vocal. What you're
not saying is bad, good, whatever, but very so like
said something about, hey, anybody that vote for the president,
you should like have the lose the right to he
shouldn't say live, but pretty much like I never want
to talk to you. Then she put out some big
apology of like, sorry, I was heated in the moment.
So she's very political and very open about it and
very like anti the right and the current president. So
lots of those people that make the Red Eye thumbnails
have been like that's why, and people turn it off
like I'm sure, don't get me wrong, the same way
as galcodotes, you know, comments about the war. I'm sure
that did turn off a percentage of people, But I
don't think that's what makes the movie bomb in my opinion.
I don't like, it's not that big a thing. Like
I walk up to anybody, it's like did you hear
a Galaga dot set? You hear what Rachel Ziggler said,
say that again, they're gonna say say again. First of all,
I honestly feel like they're gonna they might asked me,
who are those two people? For sure, at least Rachel
and then Galaican. I'm like, oh, like, they're not in
tune to it the same way as us, the same
way as like I didn't put this in the show notes,
but this has something to do with it. And I'm guilty, right,
but not as much coyote versus act me. You remember
we talked about a little bit how that Warner Bros.
Sold that movie off for tax right off. But now
they've they let us company buy it, so they've sold
it to them for fifty million. It's gonna come out.
That's all great, right. For the past year, I've seen
so many people talk about the death of cinema so bad.
Yet I guarantee you all those people are not going
to go out and buy a fucking ticket of this movie.
I will because I agreed that this fucking sucks, you
should not make a movie, then just right off, I will,
and me and my kids just saw the last Looning
Tunes movie, and I will preface this in saying it's
the same crowd as there's not enough original movies, and
then all these fucking original movies come out and they bomb.
Right now, I'm in the situation I got five fucking kids,
two of them are twins in four months, So right
now I'm in the situation where I only see one
movie month. But these guys know that I when I could,
when I had the time, I've seen every original movie
I fucking could. I'm the guy seeing Saltburn, like Dylan says, bombing.
I'm the guy seeing Saltburn with one other guy and
an old guy that's like, I don't like this movie,
Like I'm there.
Speaker 3: And even.
Speaker 1: Even these guys in Tailor, I'd say, like see more
original movies than most of the people that complain about them.
So again, it's just like when people talk about these
things of like oh the bubble, rachel Or like original movies.
This is what we like. My least favorite thing I've
heard so much is with the DC stuff with Endgame,
peeple Go. Well, all they gotta do, they gotta make
a great movie. How many fucking great movies have bombed
since we've been doing this, guy, it's like for ten years.
Like Blade around twenty forty nine is like a fucking masterpiece.
That movie made Dick all you know, like Companion Novacate,
like all this stuff that's come out. When people say, oh,
it's a great like you just gotta make a good story.
No you don't. You really don't. Look at mufass a
seven hundred million bra the like all that stuff, like
it's just it's literally now it's sad. It is just
about the ips. And if you want original films, they're
in fort she It's just gonna be unstreaming because all
these movies are coming out are just eating shit. I'd
love to go see them, but.
Speaker 3: We're getting four Beatles movies and four John Wick movies.
Speaker 1: But that's their ips, right, you can sell them on.
That's why you guys should watch the fucking Studio because
it's all about they want to make a kool Aid
movie and like it's like that's the thing where it's
like we're gonna live in that world where the theater
stuff is just I P I P I P. Even
that reports of warnbroo're saying like now going forward after
this year, they don't want to make anything that's on
IP and it's like, fuck, man, like, what are we
gonna do? So I don't think it's because of you
know all they said these comments and stuff. Finally, so
she's very much in the tart of those sort of people.
I just saw a thumbnails said the no name actress
who destroyed a classic. Yeah, so I don't think that
really matters in X, Y and Z. But to transfer
over because I haven't done this in twenty twenty five
an update on our draft right down the movie draft,
haars last place because he has nothing but the reason
I put this in here. Oh sorry again, what's wrong?
Speaker 3: But it's no When you when you said that about Taylor,
I just thought about dropping the Tom Hardy gift. But
I'm like, well, we don't need to do it. But
that's just that's just how my brain works these days.
Speaker 2: Test me, do you Tom?
Speaker 1: And that's the thing inves Mic, who is looking forward
to it, saw it gave. I think Mikey like a
three of five. That's snow why. It's like, if it's
not bad, it's like very middling stuff. But he says
the big problem also inflated budgets, snow White did not
look like a two or six nights. Yeah, and there's
a budget.
Speaker 3: Holy yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing too, stuff like me me and
Kirk on tal about last week. I cannot wait for
one battle after another. But the fact that budget's like
one twenty plus, it's like, what are you doing? Even
if you have to say no, like same thing maybe
Jill and All. That's a fucking musical rider Frankensign movie
that they showed night Warner Brothers coming out, it's like
one hundred and twenty million. That movie's gonna make Dick
All like, I'm sorry, like this is what you got
to watch. The budgets. I'm not trying to sound like
it's all about the movie business, but for us to
survive and do this stuff, it's like you can't be
green lining this off and yeah saying the snow white.
It does not look like that even from the trailers, like.
Speaker 3: We're just like how much you're paying Rachel Zegler, like
you know, two million dollars or something like I feel the.
Speaker 1: Rumor was like she got five million and then Gal
got like ten to fifteen or something.
Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah that's eating up like nothing, that's greaty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know if just reshoots all these
some stuffs covid I digress. Only thing with tat is
I'll bring up that. So he drafted Michael, Jurassic World Rebirth,
Lelo and Stitch. So another live action Disney one. We'll
see how it does. Eloh, The Bad Guys, Mortal Kombat two,
twenty eight years later, Prayer, bad Lands, Animal Friends, and
Dirty Dancing three. The reason I'm bringing this up though,
because Lionsgate, who had a great panel today, Uh, they
did not show anything on Michael, and they said they
had nothing for Michael to show currently. So a lot
of people think that movie is gonna get delayed at
because remember it already got delayed once it was supposed
to be out in like the summer.
Speaker 3: But in the same month with the Beatles movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that same Dame Day. Yeah yeah, because it's tied.
Remember Jackson bought the Beatles. I'll like their rights there
for a little bit. We'll get in tune on me
podcast anyway. So but that's why I'm bringing this up.
So Taylor might lose his number one draft pick because
that's the theory going on in Hollywood that Michael's getting
kicked ee. That could be it could be a Kirkland
Dune situation. Oh what I want to say, because I'm
gonna forget and before we go off? What because still
and you're like, oh, I might watch in the future.
Would you guys be down for the afternight movie night?
We should watch Top Secret. I feel like that's a
fun you know, Honor Val Kilmore, we go watch a
parody together. Okay, let's do that. That's what we're doing
April sometime. Patrons five five dollars up to your facetoo up,
We're watching Top Secret. We're gonna tribute the legend. Lots
able to see it. Keep saying we're gonna see it.
So there you go. Uh and second place is Kirkland
Patzer with one movie's release so far. You got The
Working Man that came up this weekend at thirty two
millions for you. You got that?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Kirkan Wall says, Utopia two, How To Train and Dragon, Superman, Uh,
fantat or No f one not fantastic one F one,
Smurfs from the World of John Wick, Ballerina, SpongeBob, square Pants,
U Ninas Apocalypse. Oh, I could be wrong. Actually, nights
is Let's see what that made night at the zoop acalypse.
Let's see what killed? Say that again? So it made
uh seven million? That's what That's tough ninety Still in
third place with thirty nine million?
Speaker 3: Did that come out like five minutes ago? Like maybe
if the numbers are still rolling in January.
Speaker 1: And then tron Aries is your last one. I'm in
second place right now with snow White at one forty
two million.
Speaker 3: Sorry, is seven million the lowest anyone has ever earned
on the draft? I don't m other than zero. Of course,
if something got.
Speaker 1: Delayed, I'll check. I'll get back to hang on.
Speaker 2: That could be a new record, could be insult injury. Yeah,
we're gonna define this low score. Expect my award in.
Speaker 1: The Okay, so next time we do the draft, I'll
have that because still next to Utopia, I put check
low score record all time draft ranking. Okay, so I
will I'll have stats next time we do this to
find out zoo. I'm in second place one four two
for snow White. I have my number one draft picked
the Black Phone, two Wicked for Good Mission, Apostle fun
Reckoning the Thunderbolts, Sinners, which why do we have two
post credits? I don't fucking know the conjuring Last Rites
to to Michael, Yeah, Karate kid Le, Final Destination, Bloodlines,
and Running Man, and then Dylan Muss is in first
place right now with one hundred ninety two million. The
Monkey made you sixty three million, and then Mickey seventeen
made you one hundred and twenty one million, My Boy,
and The Day the Earth Blew Up the Looney Tunes
movie made you ten million. So you've had three movies
released so far.
Speaker 3: Okay, we had to hope for a little bit higher
numbers with three movies.
Speaker 1: But this weekend you got Minecraft coming out, so we'll
see how you do there, and then obviously end of
the year Avatar, so that can that can cover you
big time there. So you got Avatar, Fire and Ash
Fantastic four First Steps, Now you See Me three, which
is now retel to, so now you see me now
you don't, Oh no, oh, sorry, you're way higher up.
You're at five ninety two because I forgot. You got
Cap coming out that made about four hundred million, so
not bad. Cap had a good legs there, and then
you got five nights of Friday's two and then Megan
two is still to come.
Speaker 3: Out, so I'm gonna win this thing.
Speaker 1: Great. I think my draft me I fucked up and
seven million over here you have.
Speaker 2: A seven millionaire. In those last two movies.
Speaker 1: Had a couple of low ones. I think Tayam is
losing Michael and then you know, like snow White did
not do well for me and I got Black Phone
at number one, so I'm not doing great there.
Speaker 3: I want to drop and looking good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so whatever. Right now, we've updated on newscast, but
dyl Muss is in the lead in the Superhero draft
with one point. Also we got till July Comic Con weekend.
Uh yeah, Kirkle needs that two billion dollars Superman movie.
I don't know if that's happening, but but yeah, still
got Sadie Sink. He is now waitting on on a
date Armas Sean Gunn, which you got a point last year.
But he hasn't been recasting anything yet, so we're still
we're waiting there. Murray Bartlet, Glenn Pal, Kaylie Spainey, Josh O'Connor,
Stephen Young, who's your star? Pick? Ella Pernell and Ale
at a Barry at a Beery. Sorry I got no
picks right now. I got some more weaving les Ad,
Jody Comer, a Driver, Palm Clem Tif Daisy Edgar Jones,
Katie O'Brien, Lee Young Jay, Karen Galen, and Ryan Gossling
Kirkland also with no No one has points except for
don't Kirkland with Keanu Reeves, Jennifer Holland hoping for that
Superman cast right there. Good thing that Superman comes up
before Comic Con so you could get a point. So
Shamir Anderson for Allen, which is your two star pick,
Sophia Wild, Jenna Ortega, Aliah Brown, Boyd Whole Brick, and
then a man of picks, and then Taylor has Naomi Scott,
Donny Donny Yan who's directing that other movie, Kane Us
that's not happening, Mark Campbell, sig Sigourney, Millie, Bobby Brown,
his two star picks, Sidney Sweeney who maybe not cast,
but she is signaling now, so good luck, gentlemen. Kieran
a Ship, Sabone, Ashley Killy, Murphy, you grant. So that's
Risten out for the Superhero draft. So we'll see. We
got what April, May, June, July. We got four more
months for that bad boy to close out, so obviously
could be some casting, so we'll see if Dylana gets
the win there. And then finally the MCU draft. Right now,
let's see Taylor is in the last place with Dylan.
You guys got fifteen points. Dylan you had, Sue Storm,
read Richards. You're getting a lot of points, Sue Soon, Ironheart,
Ghost haulk O Koy Kate, Bishop Turk, and Taskmaster you
got fifteen points.
Speaker 3: For At this point, I don't think he's the last
two episode kind of guy.
Speaker 2: He's the villain the last episode.
Speaker 1: He joins the task Force. But you got fifteen for
Bucky surprise appearance, so there you go. And then Taylor
has five for Fisk, five for doctor Strange, and five
for Punisher. His other picks are a ghost writer, Silp Surfer,
Miss Marvel, which he could have got some good points
there but it didn't happen, Sung she Al, Tina Scott,
which Scar, and then he has a bonus pick of
Rick Strange at number eleven. Second place right now is Kirkland.
He is Johnny Storm, Red Guardian Us Agent, Wong Shee, Hulk,
Iron Fist, Happy Hogan, Luke Cage and then you got
five points for Falcon and then twenty five points for
Spider Man, so you're got thirty points, and then I'm
your first place right now. I got Jessica Jones, Claire,
you watch The Watcher, Doctor Doom, Franklin, Richards Wonderman, you're
laying out the thing. And then I got points for
Daredevil and Sam Wilson in a starring and end credit role.
So yeah, all the drafts are kind of even those
movie drafts. We obviously got some points still, but it's
starting off pretty close. Dylan has a big lead right
now five ninety two, so we'll see what happens. But
hopefully we get a couple more nights zoopocalypses for Dylan
so we can catch up there, and a Michael boot.
But yeah, that's the draft starting to heat up. We
got lots of big movies coming out from May to July,
so we'll be tracking that and the draft. And then
we got a lot of check out side Quest because
Yllan's been updating that too. We got lots of video
games stuff popping off to he's the current leader right now,
do you know that? Off? Tug your head? I don't, Okay,
so it's me currently here, So I'm gonna win that again,
you know, win all the drafts. But yeah, we'll see.
So thank you everyone that tuned into this. We'll be
back later on this week. If we didn't say we're
doing next week's side quest this week, you're gonna get
that early at some point because Nintendo Director is happening.
Switch to and then me and Del will also be
back for the weekly geek will break down because like
I said, we still out for more CinemaCon stuff. Hopefully
Disney Marvel gives us some good stuff that'd be nice juice,
and so we'll see what happens, and I promise you
it'll not be boring.
Speaker 2: See you bye,