Speaker 1: Get ready for.
Speaker 2: My apologies in my intro was too loud in your
Speaker 2: ears because it was too loud in mine. Anyway. September nineteenth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, allegedly according to that thing we call
Speaker 2: a calendar. At least that's what my blurry eyes are
Speaker 2: telling me. Anyway, this the Ocelli effect. And it is
Speaker 2: Friday night. And despite the fact that we have a
Speaker 2: former usual, you know, recurring guest doing his own calling
Speaker 2: show tonight at exactly the same time, even though he's
Speaker 2: on the other coast, welcome to us. Why not. It's
Speaker 2: been a bizarre week anyway, And isn't every week a
Speaker 2: bizarre week? Now? Nothing is normal except the abnormal, and
Speaker 2: there we have it. Meanwhile, I spent about a week
Speaker 2: working on Charlie Kirk videos, and then I decided not
Speaker 2: to do a podcast, So you only got two news
Speaker 2: podcasts this week, and I declined to do the one
Speaker 2: last night that I should have done. Probably Also, I
Speaker 2: note that you know there are interesting things happening in
Speaker 2: the media. What I noticed is South Park a week
Speaker 2: after being actually a couple of weeks ahead of the
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk thing, where they did a Charlie Kirk mockery
Speaker 2: piece with Eric Cartman. This is before he was dead.
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk saw it and thought it was really funny.
Speaker 2: Just for the record. But anyway, this week, even though
Speaker 2: they've been taking two weeks to do something that for
Speaker 2: twenty years, almost twenty years, right, no, wait, almost thirty years.
Speaker 2: They have been doing for almost thirty years, they turned
Speaker 2: it around in a week. Generally speaking, they've been on
Speaker 2: a two week rotation this year trying to drag out
Speaker 2: their new billion dollar season and guess what, they couldn't
Speaker 2: make the deadline, they claim after two weeks this time.
Speaker 2: So are they lazy or are they strategically? You know what,
Speaker 2: too much fire is still too much fire. I think
Speaker 2: they backed off strategically. I think some other people are
Speaker 2: going to start backing off strategically because it is a
Speaker 2: thing now. Jimmy Kimmel's gone. I don't think that's a
Speaker 2: big deal. But you know, Colbert is going to be canceled,
Speaker 2: is canceled, but gets to run out his show still.
Speaker 2: I found that strange. But anyway, Mickey Mouse got told,
Speaker 2: just like the booty Wrangler there in the boondocks, we
Speaker 2: could do this the easy way on the hard way,
Speaker 2: and they said, oh boy, I'm not going to do this.
Speaker 2: And that's that Jimmy Kimmel goan. Writers and people are
Speaker 2: protesting on the streets. Writers and actors or some kind
Speaker 2: of guild I think sent out their union to walk
Speaker 2: around in front of ABC with science today regarding Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 2: But look, I don't want to get into the argument because,
Speaker 2: in case you didn't catch up to it, Trump now
Speaker 2: says if they give him bad press, he wants to
Speaker 2: maybe they should have their licenses taken. He said that
Speaker 2: on Air Force one I think today. But pay no
Speaker 2: attention to the FCC chair or any of the other
Speaker 2: stuff or the back and forth. I really don't care anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be involved in the argument. There
Speaker 2: is suppression going on. There's lots of people being deplatformed.
Speaker 2: There's other people being de moneyed. Oh and by the way,
Speaker 2: I finally figured out the strangeness with the guy who
Speaker 2: threatened me with incoherent stuff that I thought was right wing.
Speaker 2: And you know what, it's not a normal maga So
Speaker 2: you know, even though he said some maga stuff, he
Speaker 2: had mega stuff mixed in there. It's not normal maga.
Speaker 2: I figured it out. And now the stuff that was
Speaker 2: making no sense to me at all, with the threats,
Speaker 2: which included death threats and other assault threats that went on,
Speaker 2: and then I got the you know, digital hit that
Speaker 2: I got and all that stuff. Funny to me, that's
Speaker 2: what you would call a grouper. And I didn't know
Speaker 2: about that until recently. And it's only the Kirk assassination
Speaker 2: that had me try and learn about that because I
Speaker 2: was trying to decipher all the weird messages. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: didn't know. I knew. I knew about well, I knew
Speaker 2: about Nick Foy in tess. You ever heard of Nick
Speaker 2: foyn TESBP.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like a he's like a red bug, like
Speaker 1: a chigger. He's just one of the little irritating things
Speaker 1: that it takes a while get rid of.
Speaker 2: Hey watch it, because he has declared groyper wars on people,
Speaker 2: and when he does, he gets results. And uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: so be careful because you know, if you're right, if
Speaker 2: you're right wing, you're not right wing enough for him,
Speaker 2: just saying that's where he's at and I'm looking at
Speaker 2: it and I'm going, holy crap. Now I knew about
Speaker 2: the guy sort of, but I never paid attention to him,
Speaker 2: and apparently he's one of these guys that nobody wants
Speaker 2: to pay attention to because if you do, it could
Speaker 2: be a problem. So and the weird thing is all that,
Speaker 2: you know, everybody's screaming as this kid left or right
Speaker 2: or whatever. He might be part of some weird subculture
Speaker 2: online that has to do with this guy, because yeah,
Speaker 2: all that stuff makes more sense now, but also the
Speaker 2: attacks is gonna make more sense, and weird thing, hang on,
Speaker 2: before we go any further. The weird thing I'm glad
Speaker 2: you're aware of this guy is that there's a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of other people and that he's gone after now.
Speaker 2: He goes after right wingers harder than he does left
Speaker 2: wingers sometimes, but he wants them all gone because and
Speaker 2: I don't ask me to explain his philosophy, but the
Speaker 2: right wingers are not hardcore enough, and obviously liberals are stupid,
Speaker 2: so we should destroy them all with our indifference. And
Speaker 2: that's the guy who was, you know, a few weeks ago,
Speaker 2: I guess, screaming about effing Charlie Kirk's baby, which is
Speaker 2: his organization, and I keep effing it and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: keep on effing it and impregnating it with my people.
Speaker 2: That's his description of a gropper war when he was
Speaker 2: going after Charlie Kirk and threatening him, and uh oh yeah,
Speaker 2: these are the pepe frog people. I'm very, very confused
Speaker 2: about all this. I feel like an out of touch
Speaker 2: grandpa completely. So I'm going to turn it over to
Speaker 2: you guys. But I also got to give out the
Speaker 2: number really quick. And I'm probably not going to make
Speaker 2: too many comments tonight, but I was going to do
Speaker 2: analyses on the various Charlie Kirk videos because I've actually
Speaker 2: taken the time to really try to break down what
Speaker 2: I could grab from four videos and some other audios,
Speaker 2: and I've even gone back and forth with Bpete about
Speaker 2: different ideas over the past week a little bit. But
Speaker 2: believe me, that just scratches the surface of what I
Speaker 2: was looking at there. And now I've decided, look, you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm not going to go with it. I'm
Speaker 2: just not even going to break it down or analyze it,
Speaker 2: even though I have an analysis and I have screenshots
Speaker 2: and ideas and different references I pulled up in a
Speaker 2: bunch of research I did, and I got to say.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say this, I can't match up
Speaker 2: the angle of the shot too the perch and where
Speaker 2: Kirk is supposed to be from an overhead view. I
Speaker 2: can't do it. It doesn't make sense to me. And
Speaker 2: also be Pete's idea about the deflection on the body
Speaker 2: armor doesn't hold water to me because A I don't
Speaker 2: see body armor on him in general, but there is
Speaker 2: thin body armor that you could miss. What I do
Speaker 2: see is that he's got a wire under his shirt.
Speaker 2: That has to do with that clip mic and maybe
Speaker 2: the earpiece. I'm not sure if the earpiece is completely
Speaker 2: wireless or not, but I'm sure that that clip mic
Speaker 2: has a wire on it and I think that's what
Speaker 2: jerks up his shirt. But that's all I'm going to
Speaker 2: say about any of it. I'm done. I'm not debating,
Speaker 2: i'm not asking, I'm not even trying. I approached a
Speaker 2: couple of people about it, and you know what it
Speaker 2: got me. Nothing good. Okay, people who are saying I'm
Speaker 2: a sniper and I know what I'm doing and I armor,
Speaker 2: and I went to some of those guys and said, okay,
Speaker 2: please help me because I don't understand this part, and
Speaker 2: they basically called me an idiot unless I thought he
Speaker 2: was shot through the neck from the other side of
Speaker 2: his neck. I said, okay, I left that a lot.
Speaker 1: That one's the one that gets well.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not saying anything, I'm just saying what I
Speaker 2: got back, okay. And then another guy was pretty much
Speaker 2: you know, and the only valid point that I see
Speaker 2: across the board is where the hell is the footage
Speaker 2: from the camera over's head that turning point USA should
Speaker 2: have somebody somebody could get that and that might reveal
Speaker 2: some interesting stuff. Also, line of sight. I would like
Speaker 2: to see a line of sight from that perch, because
Speaker 2: you know where BP's talking about deflection and stuff like that, Well,
Speaker 2: there could have been other things that interceded the path
Speaker 2: of that bullet that didn't have to do with his
Speaker 2: body armor. And depending on the distance if we have
Speaker 2: the distance wrong, every bullet a wobble after enough distance,
Speaker 2: depending depending so you know, but that's all I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say about it, because those are the things that I
Speaker 2: was really trying to develop, and I'm not going to
Speaker 2: do it. I had visual I even thought about doing
Speaker 2: a video. No, Nope, not gonna do it anyway. You
Speaker 2: guys can talk about whatever you want, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: ask nicely that we don't just repeat this stuff from
Speaker 2: other people's uh you know, words and podcasts and other
Speaker 2: people's scripts and what's on TV. And let's not just
Speaker 2: do talking points battles tonight at all. That's my only request.
Speaker 2: Three to one nine five two seven five zero one six.
Speaker 2: I haven't even looked at the phone lines yet, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna turn it over to my coast and momentarily
Speaker 2: three one nine five two seven five zero one six,
Speaker 2: and uh that's the number to call as per usual.
Speaker 2: And uh, I do have to pay the phone bill
Speaker 2: this week. I haven't paid it yet and it bounced
Speaker 2: the first time, so I got to load I don't know,
Speaker 2: uh seven eight bucks onto a card so I can, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, cover the bill. But I haven't been able
Speaker 2: to do that yet a couple of days. That's hanging,
Speaker 2: but it's not overdue yet, so no emergency, but uh yeah,
Speaker 2: that's gonna have to get done if we're gonna keep
Speaker 2: the phone line, and I want to keep the phone line.
Speaker 2: In fact, I'm not sure if we should turn all
Speaker 2: of the shows into some kind of interactive how about
Speaker 2: you join us on our stream, join us on the
Speaker 2: video even though we don't record video, you could join
Speaker 2: us via the video link. I might give that out sometime.
Speaker 2: I'm considering a bunch of different options, just so you know,
Speaker 2: and you know that along with just trying to keep
Speaker 2: it rolling in general. So and that's still a challenge,
Speaker 2: and we're still having troubles over here. Missus Oak did
Speaker 2: a couple of interesting temp gigs recently, and this time
Speaker 2: it wasn't moping a floor, so you know, that was
Speaker 2: a little better encouraging news. Maybe that'll help. I can't
Speaker 2: get a job, apparently because I filled out a lot
Speaker 2: of applications thinking maybe I could, you know, return to
Speaker 2: work having been a self employed podcast and podcast producer,
Speaker 2: not even going for those kind of jobs. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about I can't get hired at the Pigley
Speaker 2: Wiggly with that at my age, I guess I don't know,
Speaker 2: But no responses on my applications and my yeah and
Speaker 2: the stuff I filled out, and even with this resume form,
Speaker 2: it didn't help anyway. I don't care. We're not talking
Speaker 2: about me tonight. We're talking about whatever's on your mind.
Speaker 2: Three one nine five two seven five zero one six
Speaker 2: and damn I took like ten minutes of the whole
Speaker 2: show with that. I'm sorry, Bpete. By all means, if
Speaker 2: you want to talk about the graper thing that I
Speaker 2: was just talking about, cool, I don't really want to
Speaker 2: dig on that too much. Uh, but whatever's on your mind,
Speaker 2: go ahead, But first you know, how was your week?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: My week was rough. I've been swinging a bush axe
Speaker 1: all week. I got my tennis elbow back. I got
Speaker 1: to get my arm banned out. Whenever I use the thing,
Speaker 1: I'm about to die.
Speaker 2: Okay, because I'm not that I mean, wait, wait, because
Speaker 2: I'm not a manly man helped me out here. Bush axe?
Speaker 2: What is a bush axe?
Speaker 1: Particularly, it's like a four and a half foot long
Speaker 1: handle with a huge blade on the end of it
Speaker 1: is used for cut and brush. That blade is about
Speaker 1: four and a half inches wide, and it's curves and
Speaker 1: it's got a tip at the end of the curve
Speaker 1: so that you can cut briers and brush and brambles
Speaker 1: and spines.
Speaker 2: And do Some people call that a scythe.
Speaker 1: No, scythe is a long handle with a very long,
Speaker 1: thin curve blade that you swing parallel to the surface
Speaker 1: of the ground, cut wheat and grass and grains, and yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I was picturing.
Speaker 1: The what is it the grim Reaper carries a scythe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was picturing. Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Bush axe is about a four about a four four
Speaker 1: about a four foot handle with like a wide machete
Speaker 1: blade on the end of it.
Speaker 2: See, I'd rather ask a human being than you know,
Speaker 2: ask the internet or ask an AI. So I figured
Speaker 2: i'd ask you and thank you. Okay, So I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: continue now that I got a picture in my head
Speaker 2: at least, So you were swinging a bush axe, and
Speaker 2: that's anything you got to swing repetitively hurts. But is
Speaker 2: that particularly heavy or what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got some weight to it. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm having to clear a whole back corner on my
Speaker 1: property that was let grown up for about ten years.
Speaker 1: So it's all saplings and briers and brambles and weeds
Speaker 1: and bushes about head high or higher. And I've got
Speaker 1: about half of it done. I should finish up next week.
Speaker 1: But the weather's been beautiful for it. It's been I mean,
Speaker 1: it's been cool here, it's been we had clouds every
Speaker 1: day for about five days, so it didn't get above
Speaker 1: about seventy. It was like springtime almost than today it
Speaker 1: jos back up almost ninety. So we're not quite out
Speaker 1: of summer yet. We've got a few weeks left. But
Speaker 1: other than that, just do some stuff around the house
Speaker 1: and staying on top of the news and watching all
Speaker 1: the idiots in DC trying to scare everybody. You know,
Speaker 1: the whole economy is going to come crashing down because
Speaker 1: they got to cover their bets on healthcare. You know,
Speaker 1: one of those things that things years ago that people
Speaker 1: tried to point out are coming to fruition right now.
Speaker 1: And the Dems are scrambling because everybody's insure health insurance
Speaker 1: is going to go up and people are going to
Speaker 1: lose their health insurance and it's because of Obamacare and
Speaker 1: the way they structured it. They've been subsidizing it for
Speaker 1: years now the subsidies have run out and they don't
Speaker 1: know what they're going to do. So finally, the American
Speaker 1: public are going to see how screwed they actually got
Speaker 1: when their premiums go through the roof again. They're going
Speaker 1: to see what happened years ago when they tried to
Speaker 1: pass this thing.
Speaker 4: Rather than that.
Speaker 1: You know, Washington is just typical, typical. But I do
Speaker 1: have to admit, and I did tell you this from
Speaker 1: election day that I would hold Republicans accountable. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, I'm seeing some weird stuff coming out
Speaker 1: of that party in the last two weeks, and this
Speaker 1: crap about the FCC and licenses and Kimble's on suspension.
Speaker 1: He'll come back being on anywhere. But from what I'm
Speaker 1: hearing from the White House and what I'm hearing from
Speaker 1: certain people spokesman's and that for the White House, somebody
Speaker 1: needs to pop Old Donald on a nose with a
Speaker 1: newspaper and kind of Jerky's choke chain reading him back
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's he's really starting to screw up,
Speaker 1: I think, and he I mean, I don't know why
Speaker 1: they can't read the room this whole Charlie kirk Thing
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Kimmel think Jimmy Kimmel and a lot of
Speaker 1: people out there are trying to say that he didn't
Speaker 1: say exactly what he said. Now, if he just own
Speaker 1: up to it, I say, yeah, I said that. You know,
Speaker 1: it may have upset some people. I apologize to those
Speaker 1: people and keep on going. This whole thing would have
Speaker 1: blown over but Trump and the message that we're getting,
Speaker 1: and of course it's just a message, is that you know,
Speaker 1: he's going to have all these licenses looked into from
Speaker 1: the FCC. I don't understand what his problem is. He
Speaker 1: has put up with people talking smack to him for
Speaker 1: ten years and now all of a sudden, he's got
Speaker 1: a blister on his ass that's irritating enough that he's
Speaker 1: going to start screwing things up. And all you people
Speaker 1: out there crying for Jimmy Kimmel, let me go ahead
Speaker 1: and tell you Jimmy Kimmel was getting ready to unload
Speaker 1: and make it even worse. And that's why his bosses
Speaker 1: suspended him and fire him. They pulled him off the
Speaker 1: air for a few days. He's going to get a
Speaker 1: long weekend out of it. And everybody's buying Jimmy Kimmel crap,
Speaker 1: so he's getting his cut off. That. Don't worry about
Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel. He'll be just fine. But the executives were
Speaker 1: putting a pickle because one of their major distributors took
Speaker 1: offense to what he said about Charlie Kirk to it,
Speaker 1: and he said it, I don't know why they try
Speaker 1: to Yeah, I don't know why they try to bend it.
Speaker 1: Kimmel said what he said.
Speaker 2: Well, because up to it, Well, here's the thing that
Speaker 2: Star whatever distributor that has eighty seven channels, they were
Speaker 2: on it and Sinclair was demanding that, you know, that
Speaker 2: he make a donation to Charlie Kirk's family and to
Speaker 2: the organization and a big apology. But they didn't give
Speaker 2: him a chance. They pulled him with that suspension, and uh,
Speaker 2: I think it would be insane to put him back on.
Speaker 1: Well, they got hit from two directions. They got hit
Speaker 1: from their distributors, Sinclair and it's not Next Star, it's
Speaker 1: it's something with it Nextary.
Speaker 2: Star and it well, hang on, hang on, because here's
Speaker 2: the sea. Here's the sequence of events that Star Company
Speaker 2: already had a complaint going to them, going we're pulling
Speaker 2: this if this guy doesn't do something like apologize contrition.
Speaker 2: They had a whole bunch of different, you know, ideas
Speaker 2: about what he could do, but he had to do
Speaker 2: a bunch of things otherwise we're pulling this. And you know,
Speaker 2: with this is when in hours then the FCC chair
Speaker 2: does a podcast where he goes, yeah, well we can
Speaker 2: do this the hard way or the easy way. Uh
Speaker 2: So there's that. Then he's suspended in death. Then after that,
Speaker 2: Sinclair says, hey, we got a lot of channels, and
Speaker 2: guess what we got three conditions. Donate you know, substantially
Speaker 2: to Charlie Kirk's family, Donate substantially to Turning Port USA,
Speaker 2: and also come out with a sincere complete apology, contrition
Speaker 2: and all that. That was the three conditions from Sinclair.
Speaker 2: But none of that got to happen because they yanked him.
Speaker 2: And was it a business decision?
Speaker 1: Well the involved too, Okay, there's something else involved, and
Speaker 1: that is a merger coming up, ye all on part
Speaker 1: of what Disney owns. Then yeh, Now that's that's that's
Speaker 1: that's the corporate you know, production. Let's get our program outside.
Speaker 1: On the other side, you had the public start calling
Speaker 1: in and start canceling a bunch of Disney crap, started
Speaker 1: canceling subscriptions, started canceling trips to Disney World and Disneyland,
Speaker 1: big money packages, and they were getting hit from both sides.
Speaker 1: So they had talked. Apparently they had talked to Kimmel
Speaker 1: and said we want to know what you're going to
Speaker 1: say on this next show, and Kimmel told him he
Speaker 1: won't hold him back, and they said, nah, I don't
Speaker 1: think you're gonna I don't think you're going to be
Speaker 1: on it all. You're taking a vacation. And that's when
Speaker 1: they jerked him. But the thing is.
Speaker 2: Before the outrage.
Speaker 1: You know, here's what I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Before the outrage. I see now, I don't like this
Speaker 2: because before the outrage even circulated, I don't think there
Speaker 2: was time for all that cancelation that started to happen.
Speaker 2: But it was only a couple of hours. It was
Speaker 2: within a broadcast time. Right by the next morning, this
Speaker 2: guy was canceled, so it broadcast people that are not
Speaker 2: regular viewers of the show got the clips right. This
Speaker 2: is a thing that happened in real time. It showed
Speaker 2: up on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Twitter.
Speaker 2: Outrage happened. Then you got people trying to cancel. But
Speaker 2: you ever try and cancel with one of these subscription services,
Speaker 2: it's not something you can usually do easily. Their pain
Speaker 2: in the ass to get rid of. I mean, you
Speaker 2: ever try and do that unless you know you bounce
Speaker 2: payments to him, And even then they give you like
Speaker 2: another week where they won't shut you down even if
Speaker 2: you bounced to like, you know, a paramount or a
Speaker 2: CBS or whatever. But now we got the follow up
Speaker 2: from Trump today though, which is like pretty much you know,
Speaker 2: he's owning it and saying, hey, I did this, so
Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of an interesting mix.
Speaker 1: No, which makes me wonder exactly who's sitting there on
Speaker 1: his side saying, uh, you know, don maybe you'll shut
Speaker 1: up for a few hours.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody.
Speaker 1: I can't believe anybody's not holding him back. Nobody, nobody's
Speaker 1: doing it. No problem, right, No, because he's starting here's
Speaker 1: his problem. He's starting to piss off his base. Well
Speaker 1: maybe he may not understand that, but he's starting to
Speaker 1: piss off his base, and that's the last thing he
Speaker 1: needs to do. Of course, he's not running for anything,
Speaker 1: but anything that is that is connected to him. When
Speaker 1: it comes up at the end of his administration and
Speaker 1: we're looking at a new election, Trump is going to
Speaker 1: go out the window. I have a feeling people. I
Speaker 1: think people are going to be tired of Trump by
Speaker 1: the time he's we're done with him.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because it looks to me like not
Speaker 2: even half of the base is that upset about this.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, the other half of the base is
Speaker 2: doing the usual, which is no matter what Trump did,
Speaker 2: it's acceptable because he's the president and pretty much that's
Speaker 2: the way that is. And look, we can look. Have
Speaker 2: you heard his latest words that they got him on
Speaker 2: the plane, you know where they just asked him about it.
Speaker 2: Have you heard that yet? Or no?
Speaker 1: No, I've been trying to stay off Twitter for the
Speaker 1: for the past four hours. It just kind of pisses
Speaker 1: me off. So what I see on there, I got
Speaker 1: to do something to change my feet.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no problems and not his tweets or his
Speaker 2: truth Social, which, by the way, I signed up for
Speaker 2: truth Social and Blue Sky same day just as an experient.
Speaker 2: Meant to see a couple of things. And I'm gonna
Speaker 2: wait thirty days before I tell you guys what what
Speaker 2: I've learned from doing both of those things, because that's
Speaker 2: not normal. But I did that just because you know,
Speaker 2: people have been complaining I need to expand my social media.
Speaker 2: So I went, okay, fine, here's truth Social and here's
Speaker 2: Blue Sky. Truth Social gave me a little trouble signing up.
Speaker 2: Blue Sky did not, but I got to tell you
Speaker 2: the immediate feeds from both are really enlightening as well.
Speaker 2: The things they automatically signed, Like if you sign up
Speaker 2: for truth Social, you have to follow like Donald Trump
Speaker 2: JD Vans, Like you have to unscrew that. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying like that that automatically comes with your
Speaker 2: sign up, just saying, and they are right away wanting
Speaker 2: you to upgrade to the premium packages. And you can
Speaker 2: really truth if you truth with you know, by paying
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 1: But here's to be honest with you. It's bad enough
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I don't I couldn't. I don't think I
Speaker 1: could tolerate Truth Social. I really don't. And what's the
Speaker 1: other one, Blue Sky for the left. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think I'd last five minutes on it. They'd either banned
Speaker 1: me or I would have blown something up.
Speaker 2: Now you you, you'd get kicked right the hell off
Speaker 2: the Blue Sky. But Truth Social, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: think you might be okay with a lot of it,
Speaker 2: but maybe not all of it.
Speaker 1: I think we know it's it's too connected to Trump.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but there's more on there than him, you know,
Speaker 2: just saying why don't we listen to what he had
Speaker 2: to say though, just real quick, you and me, and
Speaker 2: before anybody calls in and talks about what it is
Speaker 2: he's saying. I mean, let's take his words verbatim about
Speaker 2: this today, because you know this as per usual everything,
Speaker 2: the moments of outrage last for a little while and
Speaker 2: then they go on. I mean, he was in England
Speaker 2: at the time, right, you know, doing his thing with
Speaker 2: Prince Charles there talking about the great authors that we've
Speaker 2: seen and we'll never see again. And all that, you know,
Speaker 2: does prove that he can read, though, because he was
Speaker 2: reading off the script, but when he turned it over
Speaker 2: he changed up a little yit.
Speaker 1: That brings up a point. Yeah, that brings up a point.
Speaker 1: I'd like to know who the hell he must not
Speaker 1: run what he's going to say through to anybody, because
Speaker 1: when he makes a comment like I'm the first president
Speaker 1: to be in Windsor Castle and there's like ten of
Speaker 1: them that have been over there and had dinner, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: You know, people call Donald Trump stupid, and it's because
Speaker 1: some of the stupid things that he says. And nobody,
Speaker 1: but isn't he technically nobody? Wait, were going there to say,
Speaker 1: don let me at least fact checked a little bit
Speaker 1: of this. No, see, you're wrong there, don There's been
Speaker 1: ten others. You can say you're the best out of
Speaker 1: the ten. Don't say you're the first on this little hen.
Speaker 2: We'll hang on on that because I'm a fair guy, right.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people say I'm not. But
Speaker 2: I think Trump might be correct because the other visits
Speaker 2: to the royal family previously and by recent presidents for sure,
Speaker 2: in a long time. We're all to the queen, right,
Speaker 2: So you got to see the Queen wh she kept
Speaker 2: her residence at Buckingham, didn't she like didn't she do
Speaker 2: all this stuff at Buckingham? So I think Trump might
Speaker 2: be No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: There's I'll get no. I'll show you the list. There's
Speaker 1: ten of them I think that have been there before him,
Speaker 1: that have entertained at winter Castle.
Speaker 2: They met with the crown at at Windsor. You're sure,
Speaker 2: because I thought that the Queen met Helpstone.
Speaker 1: I'll get you the list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please do, because I thought, okay, I'm listen, this
Speaker 2: puts me in a position of defending Trump, so you know,
Speaker 2: excuse me. I was just wondering if we have our
Speaker 2: fact straight, because I thought he was the first one
Speaker 2: to go there, because Charles did change his residence and
Speaker 2: a few other things. You know, there's a little difference
Speaker 2: between the way he's running things and his mother did, right,
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking that this kind of you know, technical
Speaker 2: state visit only occurred at Windsor now because Charles has
Speaker 2: moved there. I mean, not like it's specially done for Trump,
Speaker 2: although he's the first president in a long time to
Speaker 2: go there twice. Thing for this kind of thing, I
Speaker 2: think each president only usually gets one of these trips.
Speaker 2: But you know, here it is. But again, you have
Speaker 2: the change in the royal figure, the change of the
Speaker 2: office of the king, which is what the queen was
Speaker 2: operating under. You know, even when the queen was the
Speaker 2: head monarch, she's operating under the office of the king.
Speaker 2: That's why the crown got to ride in a car
Speaker 2: to certain events, a separate car from the queen, by
Speaker 2: the way, to certain events, because technically speaking, she was
Speaker 2: operating under the office of the king. Whatever that means.
Speaker 2: You know, you can sort it out and figure it
Speaker 2: out among the monarchy there. But I'm just saying that's
Speaker 2: a technical aspect that I know is real. That's a
Speaker 2: legal situation as well. But now he is the king,
Speaker 2: you know, so you know, I'm thinking he moved and
Speaker 2: therefore his primary residence or his castle is a Windsor
Speaker 2: so that's you know, different I'm thinking as well.
Speaker 1: Reagan says here eighty Twoagan was hosted by Queen Elizabeth
Speaker 1: the second at Windsor Castle. Reagan was the first city
Speaker 1: in the US president stay overnight at Windsor Castle during
Speaker 1: this is it Reagan and the Queen road horses and
Speaker 1: let me clear the pop up ad together at Windsor
Speaker 1: Or Great Park. I started with Reagan.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Reagan got there first, all right, to Windsor, Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: have we had since Reagan? I mean, seriously, we haven't
Speaker 2: happened since Regan los correct. I'm pretty certain Trump's the
Speaker 2: only one to go there twice, but.
Speaker 1: You know, for yeah, the first time he was at
Speaker 1: Buckingham Palace. Yeah, first time Trump went right, And I
Speaker 1: can't find a full list, and I saw it somewhere
Speaker 1: on Twitter the other day, Okay.
Speaker 2: But I'm just wondering if somebody transposed, you know, Buckingham
Speaker 2: visits to Windsor because the castle is a castle, And
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking that he might have been correct, but
Speaker 2: you're telling me Reagan went so he can't be entirely correct.
Speaker 2: But I mean that's a minor error, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, compared to some of the.
Speaker 1: I mean, he did to ask news Week, So let's see.
Speaker 2: Okay, So he declared, you know that he had also
Speaker 2: ended a war between two countries. One country he named incorrectly.
Speaker 2: The other one he named something unintelligible, uh, because he
Speaker 2: was naming it Albania when it was oh god, what
Speaker 2: was it, Oh, Armenia. He meant to say Armenia, and
Speaker 2: he said Albania and then mangled the other name, which
Speaker 2: you know I would probably do too. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, you know, there's other gaffes in his statements
Speaker 2: that are more glaring than that. And I really did
Speaker 2: not know that Reagan made that trip. But again I
Speaker 2: stand correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently Reagan. Apparently Reagan Biden. It wasn't Biden too. Okay,
Speaker 1: it wasn't an official yeah, but it wasn't an official
Speaker 1: state visit, but he was at Windsor as well.
Speaker 2: See, now, maybe that's it was Reagan's and officials state visit.
Speaker 2: Do we know that for sure because it.
Speaker 1: Is yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, it was an official because
Speaker 1: and Trump made a comment he says, uh, he says, well,
Speaker 1: my relationship is very good with the UK, and Charles,
Speaker 1: as you know, who's now king, is my friend. And
Speaker 1: it's the first time this has ever happened where somebody
Speaker 1: was honored twice, so it's a great honor. And this
Speaker 1: was at Windsor. They've never used Windsor Castle before for this.
Speaker 1: Before they used Buckingham Palace. And I don't want to
Speaker 1: say one is better than the other, but they say
Speaker 1: Windsor Castle is the ultimate right, so it's going to
Speaker 1: be nice. But basically they're also on trade. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he you know, technically when he said and this was
Speaker 1: at Windsor, they never used winter Castle before this, he
Speaker 1: could have been talking about his other visits. But Reagan
Speaker 1: was there, Biden was there.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was trying to maybe he was correct, but
Speaker 2: maybe he's not. Okay, fine, but he does say other things,
Speaker 2: and here it is, you know, imprecise language, which by
Speaker 2: the way, was exactly what I was worried about when
Speaker 2: he was selected the first time. Okay, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I was. I was a jerk because I said that.
Speaker 2: You know, look, the guy does not speak uh, concisely
Speaker 2: and clearly a lot. Clarity is not one of the
Speaker 2: keys to the way the man speaks. And you know,
Speaker 2: generally a president who doesn't speak with clarity but also
Speaker 2: likes to speak a lot that might be dangerous. But
Speaker 2: I was a you know, I was a jackets. So anyway,
Speaker 2: let's let's let's take a listen to his words though
Speaker 2: today about this FCC situation, because I found it interesting.
Speaker 2: And if you don't understand what he's saying here, I'll
Speaker 2: stop and I'll tell you what the uh what the
Speaker 2: transcript says, because it's already been posted to YouTube and
Speaker 2: all that. It's not just on Twitter, and it's not
Speaker 2: edit So anyway, here we go.
Speaker 6: Here, I post this on network television. There is a license.
Speaker 6: I'll give you an example. I read some I said
Speaker 6: the networks were ninety seven percent against me.
Speaker 1: I get ninety seven percent negative.
Speaker 2: Indiet Okay, so far, he said, I read somewhere that
Speaker 2: I get ninety seven percent negative. Can you understand this
Speaker 2: all pretty well? It's on the plane.
Speaker 1: Oh I could barely hear it. I can barely hear it.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, well, I know it'll work for the broadcast.
Speaker 2: But he said that so far and uh, and then
Speaker 2: he starts to say, and yet I want easily, and
Speaker 2: that's where he's going next.
Speaker 1: I won easily, won.
Speaker 6: All seven Swing states, popular, but won everything, and and
Speaker 6: then ninety seven percent against they give me a holy
Speaker 6: van publicity or press. I mean they're getting a license.
Speaker 6: I would think maybe their license should be taken away.
Speaker 2: Okay, I won all the Swing states, I won seven
Speaker 2: Swing states. I want everything, and you know they're giving
Speaker 2: me ninety seven percent negative press or publicity, whichever you
Speaker 2: want to call it. Uh, he says there, and then
Speaker 2: he says, and they get a license. I would think
Speaker 2: their license should be taken away. So this is how
Speaker 2: he's reacting to being asked about the situation about you know,
Speaker 2: you're gonna just like and and and. While he was
Speaker 2: in Britain too, it was kind of funny because the British,
Speaker 2: the British have a different way of doing it that
Speaker 2: one of their reporters said, Uh, you know, do you
Speaker 2: think that free speech is more under attack in the
Speaker 2: UK or the US? You know, because they had that
Speaker 2: recent situation with the demonstrations, and there were a lot
Speaker 2: of people screaming that they don't have freedom of speech
Speaker 2: over there because you get arrested for social media posts
Speaker 2: and things like that. And of course it is you
Speaker 2: are not permitted to publicly, uh say bad things about
Speaker 2: the royal family in Britain anyways, and that's a that's
Speaker 2: a law. That's something they got there, and that's one
Speaker 2: of those things they'll make you aware of if you
Speaker 2: broadcast the signal in there that criticizes, mocks or makes
Speaker 2: disparaging remarks about the royal family. But they allow some people,
Speaker 2: you know, just like anything else. They's selective enforcement, but
Speaker 2: technically speaking, they can have you arrested and charged. I
Speaker 2: don't know how high a crime it is over there,
Speaker 2: but it is a crime. And I've even been notified
Speaker 2: about that before, as as somebody on some English airwaves briefly, okay,
Speaker 2: just just telling you it's a reality. Yeah, So that
Speaker 2: reporter in Britain says to him, you know, is it
Speaker 2: more under attack you know, in the US or the UK.
Speaker 2: Trump had an interesting response to that. I'll let you
Speaker 2: go find it. But that's how a British guy asked
Speaker 2: the question in America, we're a little more you know, direct.
Speaker 2: So somebody was sort of like, you know, what do
Speaker 2: you say to people who are saying that you know
Speaker 2: you're going after, you know, people that are against you
Speaker 2: in the media, And this was his response to that.
Speaker 2: On Air Force one, he's leaning out a doorway, you know,
Speaker 2: you know those you've seen these before where the president's
Speaker 2: on Air Force one. He's leaning out of doorway and
Speaker 2: there's a press pool on that point. So that's what's
Speaker 2: going on. I don't know who the blonde lady is upfront,
Speaker 2: and I'm not even sure if she was the one
Speaker 2: who asked the question, but there was the question before
Speaker 2: and that's what he said. And I just read to
Speaker 2: you what he said after he said it, and best
Speaker 2: I can tell that.
Speaker 1: It bothers me, though it bothers me in that you know,
Speaker 1: if it's a cable channel, the FCC really doesn't have
Speaker 1: a lot that they can do because it's cable. It's
Speaker 1: not broadcast across airwaves. But these stations that broadcast, you know,
Speaker 1: they are given their airwaves if you want to call it,
Speaker 1: through their permits and their licenses. And I can't understand
Speaker 1: remember back when they used to have the equal time doctrine,
Speaker 1: where if you gave anything that could be considered a
Speaker 1: political support or ad, even if it was the news,
Speaker 1: the six o'clock news interviewing one candidate, they had to
Speaker 1: provide time for any of the other candidates that wanted
Speaker 1: to take advantage of the time.
Speaker 2: Right. Technically, yeah, technically speaking, technically speaking, just real quick
Speaker 2: for people to understand this, The fairness doctrine meant that
Speaker 2: even if you had a Republican candidate and you interviewed
Speaker 2: him on your public airwaves, that meant that any candidate
Speaker 2: that was in that race now was allowed equal time.
Speaker 2: Even if there was a Nazi running in that race,
Speaker 2: you would have to afford them equal time if they
Speaker 2: wanted it.
Speaker 1: That was the.
Speaker 2: Fairness doctrine, right, that's what you're referring to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, yes, yeah, but now Trump sounds like
Speaker 1: one of those guys. You know. Back when the fairness
Speaker 1: doctrine was removed, and that's when conservative radio took off, Yep,
Speaker 1: that's when it became a big powerhouse money wise, because
Speaker 1: these stations then could have hour long, three hour long
Speaker 1: programs pushing a political narrative and they didn't have to
Speaker 1: have that equal time provided, because that's where they lose
Speaker 1: money is when they got to give up time, they
Speaker 1: can't sell ads for So conservative talk radio took off.
Speaker 1: I mean it almost dwarfed FM in some of the
Speaker 1: profits that it was bringing in, with people like Rush
Speaker 1: Limbaugh and Michael Savage and you know all of these
Speaker 1: different people. Anyway, Trump now sounds like somebody that was
Speaker 1: complaining about the Fairness Doctor and being removed. He's complaining
Speaker 1: about news agencies that have licenses to broadcast because a
Speaker 1: certain amount of what they do has to be considered
Speaker 1: for the public good. That's why you get bombarded with
Speaker 1: public service announcements and this ad and that ad and
Speaker 1: get your flu shot and all this crap is because
Speaker 1: part of their operating conditions are they had to provide
Speaker 1: things that are considered good for the public or for
Speaker 1: the public good. Well, Trump is coming at it from
Speaker 1: the position of, well, these guys are just talking negatively
Speaker 1: about me all the time. Well, they did that the
Speaker 1: four years he was in before, they did it the
Speaker 1: four years after he was out of office, and now
Speaker 1: is just continuing. And he's acting like somebody that is
Speaker 1: so vain that he can't if you're going to be
Speaker 1: a politician, but you've got to be able to take it. Now.
Speaker 1: Granted Trump may have taken what he feels like is
Speaker 1: more than his share over the years, but a lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff that they're talking negatively about him are
Speaker 1: things that are so boneheaded that he does. You can't
Speaker 1: expect him to be positive about it. Trump is his
Speaker 1: own worst enemy. Well, and if he doesn't want the
Speaker 1: bad press, there's a lot of stuff that he could do,
Speaker 1: or things that he could change in the way that
Speaker 1: he acts towards the press that would make the situation better.
Speaker 1: But he refuses to do it, of course, And I
Speaker 1: don't understand why anybody around him is not pointing that
Speaker 1: out to him, like, Donald, you've shot yourself in the
Speaker 1: foot so much. Now it's time to change shoes. You
Speaker 1: can barely walk as it is.
Speaker 2: Well, because it just pull him back, Okay, But he's
Speaker 2: been surrounded completely by nothing but yes men, and that's
Speaker 2: all there is. So there is nobody going to tell
Speaker 2: him that. And the other thing is, look, it's a
Speaker 2: winning strategy because no matter whether he went And that's
Speaker 2: the other funny thing is, if you want to, you know,
Speaker 2: just go to the scorecard. Here. He won two out
Speaker 2: of three elections, no matter how unfair he thinks the
Speaker 2: coverage was. So you know, obviously he's still one. That's
Speaker 2: one thing. Next thing is you know this it hurts
Speaker 2: my head because it isn't us this. It isn't just
Speaker 2: canceling Kimmel, it's I'm throwing the ap out of the
Speaker 2: freaking you know, out of the pool. I'm only gonna
Speaker 2: go to h I'm only going to ask answer questions
Speaker 2: from reporters who I like. Remember he liked that, I
Speaker 2: like you you always ask smart questions because they were
Speaker 2: always like complimentary things before they even asked a question,
Speaker 2: you know, stuff like that. So he's always been like,
Speaker 2: you know, no matter what, no matter what's going on
Speaker 2: that day, if nothing happened that day. And of course
Speaker 2: he doesn't allow a news day to go on with
Speaker 2: nothing Trump in it, because if he wanted to not
Speaker 2: be on you know, because that's the thing. I remember
Speaker 2: when we had presidents that you know, no matter what
Speaker 2: the media was, they weren't on the media all the time.
Speaker 2: They found a way to avoid that, you know, like
Speaker 2: every day wasn't a day for the president to be
Speaker 2: It was kind of special for the president to be
Speaker 2: on TV or something. It's like, oh, the President's gonna speak.
Speaker 2: We haven't heard from him in months. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: but that's not how Trump does this. And by choice,
Speaker 2: he's engaged, whether it's you know, in the battle or not.
Speaker 2: And I have my views on that, and I know
Speaker 2: everybody thinks I'm nuts, but he's winning with it. So
Speaker 2: you know, that is now the ultimate point. It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if it's right, if it's fair, if it's legal,
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if yeah, and technically, I mean I
Speaker 2: even heard somebody say, you know, technically it's the Congress
Speaker 2: who would have to enact a law or do something
Speaker 2: about the First Amendment. So if the president's taking away
Speaker 2: your first amendment, that's not what the First Amendment says.
Speaker 2: So and I went, okay, that's that's great, But you know,
Speaker 2: would you be cool with this on the other side,
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think so. And don't
Speaker 2: tell me about Twitter because Twitter is not broadcast media.
Speaker 2: It's not the same thing. I know people think it is,
Speaker 2: but it's not.
Speaker 1: It doesn't social media. Social media is not. It shouldn't
Speaker 1: be considered media. It should because criticized. It should be
Speaker 1: considered a social platform, and that's.
Speaker 2: It, and most of that's right, And most of what
Speaker 2: the FCC is supposed to do is manage things like frequency,
Speaker 2: don't overrun your frequency, don't overpower people because you have
Speaker 2: a certain license agreement they're supposed to enforce stuff like that.
Speaker 2: That's mostly what the FCC is supposed to do. And
Speaker 2: even what was it under under Trump? The first time
Speaker 2: they even deregulated something so that you know, you and
Speaker 2: I could create and I've already explained this to people,
Speaker 2: but nobody wants to do it. Well, we could create
Speaker 2: a nationwide link a couple of miles at a time
Speaker 2: on unregulated frequencies if we wanted to, and create a
Speaker 2: massive am band and broadcast whatever we want, if everybody
Speaker 2: wanted to put up antenna every couple of miles. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying it's one of those things that could, Well I.
Speaker 1: Do you think about, Well, yeah, you could. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at what they did over the UK. They would
Speaker 1: take an old fishing trawler and take it out beyond
Speaker 1: international waters to start broadcasting radio. And yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: because there's a license in the UK if you want
Speaker 1: to listen to the damn radio you got to buy
Speaker 1: a license. That's what kills me about that country. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you can start a pirated network and be able to
Speaker 1: create your own, your own thing that the FCC couldn't
Speaker 1: control until they started bringing in jammers or busting people
Speaker 1: and putting them in jail. But I don't understand why
Speaker 1: the FCC needs to get involved and tell ABC you
Speaker 1: need to call this one late night. His ratings are
Speaker 1: in the tank. Late night TV has been in the
Speaker 1: tank for a long time. They've been bleeding money since
Speaker 1: COVID and now they're trying to stay equitable. But I
Speaker 1: don't think the FCC should be stepping in and telling
Speaker 1: them we don't like the jokes that your late night
Speaker 1: host tells. Let the guy tell the joke, and if
Speaker 1: the public doesn't like it, believe me, they'll let ABC know.
Speaker 1: See that's the trust me. That's why the View is
Speaker 1: still on. That's why the View is still on. As
Speaker 1: many people out there on the right side of things
Speaker 1: that hates the View with a passion, they have a
Speaker 1: huge following and it's a big draw for them right
Speaker 1: before the noontime hour. Anybody that's got the View on,
Speaker 1: they're going to keep the view on just as long
Speaker 1: as they can. And believe me, those bandshees have said
Speaker 1: things a lot worse than Jimmy Kimmel and they're still
Speaker 1: on the air. I don't think the FCC should be
Speaker 1: able to come in and say we don't like your programming.
Speaker 1: If they're not breaking the law by either sending out
Speaker 1: profanities or things that are against the law, then I
Speaker 1: don't think the FCC should be able to say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're looking at your license as a fear tactic. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's right.
Speaker 2: I agree. So this causes me to ask a question to,
Speaker 2: you know, the people on the right that are trying
Speaker 2: to minimize this, excuse it or say it's the right
Speaker 2: thing to do. If that is all true, and if
Speaker 2: I you know, take to heart, well the market was
Speaker 2: twisting against them and people were canceling their subscriptions and
Speaker 2: all that. If I believe that, which you started to
Speaker 2: say to here's the thing, why not give it twenty
Speaker 2: four or forty eight hours and let the market do
Speaker 2: what it's going to do. Because here's the thing about
Speaker 2: exact here's the thing about cancel culture is if cancel
Speaker 2: culture comes from a culture that happens to be the
Speaker 2: people that you're trying to sell your product to.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody needs to step in, all right,
Speaker 2: just saying.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is, look at target.
Speaker 2: If you use cancel culture plus though government authority and pressure,
Speaker 2: there comes a different situation, okay. And I don't want
Speaker 2: that being done to anybody. See here's the thing. And
Speaker 2: oh they got these you know, moral indignations about it.
Speaker 2: And I got to tell you here's the thing about it.
Speaker 2: Though it's not a moral challenge or any sort of
Speaker 2: courage to defend speech you like, it really isn't. It
Speaker 2: takes you know, a bit of integrity to defend speech
Speaker 2: that you find despicable but not directly criminal. That's the thing, okay,
Speaker 2: Bill Maher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at what Bill Maher went through after nine
Speaker 1: to eleven. We made a comment about pilots, you know,
Speaker 1: being the the you know, having guts to do what
Speaker 1: they did. He was removed and he went and found
Speaker 1: another show on another network. Let the marketplace decide where
Speaker 1: someone's going to be. Now. On the other hand, all
Speaker 1: these people that are crying saying, well, ABC, you know,
Speaker 1: shouldn't have done that. Disney shouldn't have done that. Their business.
Speaker 1: They're basically a publicly traded business, but they're still a business.
Speaker 1: They're going to run their business the way they see
Speaker 1: fit and if you don't like it, find somewhere else
Speaker 1: to go, because that's what they look at. Bottom line
Speaker 1: is are they making money for their stockholders and are
Speaker 1: their executive is getting there you know, seven eight nine
Speaker 1: digit salaries plus their bonuses every year. That's what they
Speaker 1: care about. Look at Target. When Target started the thing
Speaker 1: with the trans clothing, people boycotted them and they changed
Speaker 1: the way that they did business. That's how America is
Speaker 1: supposed to work. But when you have government officials, you know,
Speaker 1: if Trump says something about, well, may were going to
Speaker 1: get the FCC to look at your license, the guy
Speaker 1: ahead of the FCC can simply say, well, Donald, that's
Speaker 1: really not your purview and they haven't done anything illegal.
Speaker 1: So until you find something that they've done, find another
Speaker 1: way to deal with it. Nobody's going to tell them that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, this is a tactic that is
Speaker 2: used in other businesses. You know, somebody comes to if
Speaker 2: you're running a bar and says, if you don't buy
Speaker 2: your booze from my guy, it just so happens that
Speaker 2: I happen to be involved with local politics. I mean,
Speaker 2: we could just take your liquor license away, you know,
Speaker 2: if that happens and that guy makes a business decision
Speaker 2: to change to the other distributor, I got to say,
Speaker 2: I think that one thing had more to do with
Speaker 2: it than the other. And here's the thing. They didn't
Speaker 2: allow even a couple hours for this, and the executives
Speaker 2: have basically said, look, we knew we were going to
Speaker 2: be screwed with that merger, which is a secondary business consideration,
Speaker 2: but you didn't even let the first thing take hold
Speaker 2: because before the night was over, there were people that
Speaker 2: were not regular viewers freaking out online. I don't know
Speaker 2: about the cancelations. I haven't seen those numbers, be Pete.
Speaker 2: I don't know if people on Mass were canceling Disney already.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know now that the lefties are
Speaker 2: calling for people to cancel Disney. The Lincoln Project is
Speaker 2: calling for people to cancel Disney, you know, and stuff
Speaker 2: now since Kimmel was fired. But that's putting things out
Speaker 2: of order. Lefties weren't calling for Disney to be canceled
Speaker 2: before he was fired. You see what I mean, there's
Speaker 2: an order to this, and they didn't even let the
Speaker 2: market do its thing.
Speaker 1: No, because I think they're worried about let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and take care of this now. This is what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna pull them up here because she's
Speaker 1: coming back.
Speaker 2: Okay, I swear to he's not coming back.
Speaker 1: They can fill his time slot with somebody else.
Speaker 2: Well, they're doing it now with because.
Speaker 1: With these guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, celebrity family feud has been what they've been filling
Speaker 2: it with. But I did not break up eat pizza
Speaker 2: broadcast right there. Something went good with his internet for
Speaker 2: a second or my connection one or the other, because
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you went like robotic and your
Speaker 2: words skipped around.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: But the point still is that they didn't let the
Speaker 2: market do this though, And anybody that's telling me that
Speaker 2: there was no pressure on it is lying. They're just
Speaker 2: lying to you. If they're telling you, oh, that has
Speaker 2: nothing to do with the government pressuring them, you did.
Speaker 2: You can't tell me it wasn't a factor, especially because
Speaker 2: the very CEOs that would normally come out and say Nope,
Speaker 2: this was a business decision. Uh uh didn't They didn't
Speaker 2: go him out and do that, and they had the
Speaker 2: chance to do it. Rolling Stone interviewed a couple of them,
Speaker 2: like right away. Point is, though, within hours this was
Speaker 2: going down, and you know, somebody should have told this
Speaker 2: FCC chair to shut the hell up, even if he
Speaker 2: was doing it, because this is all the stuff that
Speaker 2: you know, people like me accused every administration of doing,
Speaker 2: not just left or right particularly, but every administration of
Speaker 2: putting pressure because that's what it looked like. But this
Speaker 2: guy didn't even bother to hide it. And Trump has
Speaker 2: owned it afterwards again, you know, plus the announcement on
Speaker 2: his you know, on his truth social and Twitter and whatever. Hey,
Speaker 2: great news for patriots. This guy's gone. And at the
Speaker 2: end of it, what does he say, now do Seth
Speaker 2: Myers and Jimmy whatever the other Jimmy is Fallon? I think, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, now now NBC do it? He says at
Speaker 2: the end of his Truth.
Speaker 1: Social surprizes me. Did he mention Fallon? Because see, that
Speaker 1: would surprise me. He did go on Fallon's show, because
Speaker 1: that's the one where Fallon messed up his hair. He said,
Speaker 1: here was something I'd always wanted to do, and Donald
Speaker 1: let him mess up his hair and Fallon caught hell
Speaker 1: for letting Trump come on, for even giving him a platform.
Speaker 1: Didn't he do all these he was in the doghouse.
Speaker 2: For a while, didn't he actually do all these shows?
Speaker 2: At some point I have to go look back, I mean,
Speaker 2: but anyway, great news for America. The ratings challenged Jimmy
Speaker 2: Kimmel's show is canceled. In all caps, congratulations to ABC
Speaker 2: for finally having the courage to do what had to
Speaker 2: be done. Kimmel has zero in all caps talent and
Speaker 2: worse ratings than Colbert if that's possible. That leaves Jimmy
Speaker 2: and Seth two total losers on fake News NBC. Their
Speaker 2: ratings are also horrible. Do it NBC? Two or three
Speaker 2: exclamation points? President dj T that's his tweet or truth?
Speaker 1: See? So why is? Why does it bother him so
Speaker 1: much that there's two other late night hosts that he
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to get knocked off the air yet,
Speaker 1: that he's got to go to a tweet for it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't understand who's not telling him you need to
Speaker 1: knock this crap off. I just don't get there's supposed
Speaker 1: to be adults that are handling this shit. But it's
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. It's it's become a very It's not a
Speaker 1: boring game, it's not an exciting game. It's become an
Speaker 1: obnoxious game.
Speaker 2: Well you on all sides, you see it that way,
Speaker 2: but again, I mean Ted Cruz kind of apparently sees
Speaker 2: it your way kind of. But you know, if you
Speaker 2: watch the usual suspects as far as Trump defenders go,
Speaker 2: like Scott jennings On on CNN and who did they
Speaker 2: bring it? They brought somebody out of the woodwork who
Speaker 2: was a governor? Oh Walker, Scott Walker, I think they
Speaker 2: brought him out. And jennings On to basically go, what
Speaker 2: are you guys stupid? This is exactly what the president
Speaker 2: should be doing. Of course he should. This is what
Speaker 2: needs to be done. Yeah, so there's that side of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is exactly right. Yay, Okay, if you think that's
Speaker 2: a good idea, what can I say? You know, oh,
Speaker 2: he shouldn't have said horrible things about somebody being assassinated.
Speaker 2: You really need to go back and look at some
Speaker 2: of the horrible things that have been said about people
Speaker 2: assassinated or murdered or put to death or yeah, reverence
Speaker 2: over death. Let me tell you. None of these guys
Speaker 2: would survive in Jersey. I gotta tell you, because you know,
Speaker 2: I hate to go Jersey on everybody, but let's do
Speaker 2: it where I grew up. I gotta tell you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: unless somebody was like seriously connected, I mean, body wasn't
Speaker 2: even cold. They'd be wheeling out a corpse okay at
Speaker 2: him somewhere in Jersey and you know, his kids would
Speaker 2: be crying there and you know, you'd hear stuff and
Speaker 2: somebody would have to say, hey, hey, look, you know
Speaker 2: his daughter's standing right there. She's five. Come on man,
Speaker 2: you know, because it'd be like, oh, well, he didn't
Speaker 2: deserve to live anyway. You know, like this was normal reaction,
Speaker 2: real time, face to face in Jersey. Kind of get
Speaker 2: used to it. I mean, for Christ's sake, there were
Speaker 2: other kids that said to me that, you know, my
Speaker 2: father committed suicide because I was ugly. I mean, this
Speaker 2: is how I grew up. So I look, people are
Speaker 2: getting upset about the Charlie Kirk thing. I understand getting
Speaker 2: upset to sebody, but anyway, yeah, I mean it's the
Speaker 2: people have.
Speaker 1: Just I don't know, it's things like this that really
Speaker 1: bring out the vile side of a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of vitriol in the past week
Speaker 1: about people that are dead, people that died on a
Speaker 1: different circumstances, and it's you know, we've become a very
Speaker 1: calloused society, and I don't know that we can go
Speaker 1: back on any of it. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: would take for people to finally calm down and say,
Speaker 1: you know, this really isn't bad enough for me to
Speaker 1: be bleeding from the eyes over and the vitriol on
Speaker 1: both sides has just been phenomenal. Now, these idiots in
Speaker 1: Washington that have been and that's what gets me. You know,
Speaker 1: they talk about the influences of this and that, but
Speaker 1: let's talk about the influence of what we've seen in
Speaker 1: some of these Senate hearings and congressional House hearings just
Speaker 1: in the past week, and some of the vitriol that's
Speaker 1: being thrown back and forth in them, and they want
Speaker 1: to complain about society. That's what gets me. Everybody in
Speaker 1: DC seems to think that senators and representatives are somehow
Speaker 1: suddenly special people that you can't talk to them the
Speaker 1: way you would talk to anybody else, or worse, the
Speaker 1: way they would talk to you. I see these guys
Speaker 1: in the House and the Senate get a witness in
Speaker 1: front of them, and they sit there half of one side,
Speaker 1: will take all of their time to read off this
Speaker 1: diatribe that the person can't respond to until the very end,
Speaker 1: and they only get a few minutes to do it.
Speaker 1: But they will drag people through the mud from that
Speaker 1: damn diis and act like, how dared you talk to
Speaker 1: me in that way. It's like, dude, I'm talking to
Speaker 1: you the same way you're talking to me. And if
Speaker 1: you don't like it, tough, Now what's your next question?
Speaker 1: People see that behavior and those people are bitching about
Speaker 1: the rest of us out here that are subjected to
Speaker 1: whatever it is they come up with in the damn
Speaker 1: House in the Senate. And I'm really getting tired of
Speaker 1: these politicians having this holier than thou attitude. Or you
Speaker 1: can't talk to me that way, dude. If I saw
Speaker 1: you on the street, I've been talking to you a
Speaker 1: hell of a lot worse than I am on Twitter.
Speaker 1: You can damn well believe it. These people have got
Speaker 1: this attitude about themselves because they hold a position that
Speaker 1: they should be treated differently they should have some automatic
Speaker 1: respect and they can be the biggest butthole in the
Speaker 1: world to everybody else, and they act like I'm above you.
Speaker 1: You can't talk to me that way. It's time. I've
Speaker 1: been saying this for years. It's time to clean house
Speaker 1: and get some regular people in there to handle these
Speaker 1: problems instead of worrying about where their next dam Paola
Speaker 1: is coming from. I'm so sick of it.
Speaker 2: Well there you go, and again, I've been seeing this
Speaker 2: thing you're talking about. It's not new. I mean I've
Speaker 2: been watching c SPAN since I don't know, since they
Speaker 2: introduced freaking c span pretty much.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's not new, but it's gotten worse.
Speaker 1: We've reached a level that some of these people can't
Speaker 1: come back from. Well, I don't get it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gotten worse either. You know
Speaker 2: what it's gotten is dumber people. Nobody has the ability
Speaker 2: to do anything with nuance or to you know, or
Speaker 2: to be direct about stuff. And I mean it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: Remember I told you about this, watching the whole thing
Speaker 2: about the Oversight Committee. Right when they were talking about
Speaker 2: the JFK documents, I said, you know, ninety percent of
Speaker 2: it was either Democrats or Republicans swinging back and forth
Speaker 2: making their talking points grandstanding, not actually handling the business
Speaker 2: in front of them. But that and that's what I
Speaker 2: watched regarding you know, declassifying documents, even when they brought
Speaker 2: the celebrity people up there to you know, to testify.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a joke.
Speaker 7: It was like.
Speaker 2: And then that's where that whole thing was. You know,
Speaker 2: what's her name? Oh my god, I forget her name now.
Speaker 2: But the one who was at the Beetlejuice thing with
Speaker 2: the guy that one I think was was there going, oh,
Speaker 2: you're want to wrote a book about JFK being killed
Speaker 2: by LBJ right, And he was like, what, I didn't
Speaker 2: write a book that said that because she had a
Speaker 2: staffer give her notes on Rogerstone instead of Oliverstone. I mean,
Speaker 2: was the Bohmer or Bonner? I forget her name, But anyway,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, the point is that these people can't
Speaker 2: even keep their own grand standing straight anymore. It used
Speaker 2: to be somebody would cleverly pop one of those things
Speaker 2: out and they'd make headlines, but it would be once
Speaker 2: a month. These guys again, you know, it becomes let's
Speaker 2: see if I can battle to get clips out there
Speaker 2: on TikTok of you know how I owned or got
Speaker 2: owned by or I made my point with this ridiculous
Speaker 2: display without doing the business in front of them, which
Speaker 2: is really the overall problem. I mean that, and also,
Speaker 2: you know, human life has no value anyway unless you're
Speaker 2: certain people. But anyway, we got a.
Speaker 1: Call though, Yeah, we got to call her on the line.
Speaker 1: We need to get to them. But my question is,
Speaker 1: does nobody in Washington or any of these damn interms
Speaker 1: or aides have a web browser because ninety nine percent
Speaker 1: of the crap that's spouted out of the mouth of
Speaker 1: their boss could be fact checked real quick before they
Speaker 1: put their foot in their mouth, and they're just not
Speaker 1: doing it there fear you're failing them people.
Speaker 2: Well see, I don't know if it's the staff's fault
Speaker 2: or you know, or it's the boss's fault because some
Speaker 2: of that stuff, you know, I don't know. I would
Speaker 2: skim over and double check if something was an extraordinary again,
Speaker 2: you know, because I'm crazy, and I got a double
Speaker 2: check extraordinary claims, Like if I'm sitting there going to
Speaker 2: be accusing a guy and I don't know the material. Like,
Speaker 2: let's go back to that comment again. I'm gonna cute.
Speaker 2: Oh you're the guy who says LBJ killed JFK. I
Speaker 2: would double check that, because that's not everybody in the world,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, that's not a generalized.
Speaker 1: Question before you start, before you start making accusations. I mean, damn,
Speaker 1: take five minutes.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, and then there was I mean,
Speaker 2: and there was another point in hearing nobody paid attention
Speaker 2: to where somebody was yelling at somebody else, you know,
Speaker 2: and again always to the partisan who is the chairperson
Speaker 2: is always the problem. But then the other partisans try
Speaker 2: and agitate against that person's that's fun. You know, that's
Speaker 2: gonna get a lot done. But on top of it,
Speaker 2: one of them starts arguing about how they're you know,
Speaker 2: they should investigate this and that and we should be investigating.
Speaker 2: And it's like, look, I know you're new to the committee,
Speaker 2: but our job is not to investigate that dummy. We're
Speaker 2: here to do this. And I mean they have to
Speaker 2: be reminded what they're there.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, it's even worse. No, it's
Speaker 1: even worse. If somebody makes the comment, well, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe we should look into Well, when they're done and
Speaker 1: they're away from the mic, somebody will go up to
Speaker 1: them and say, you know, here's how it works, regardless
Speaker 1: of what it is. Now you've already said we need
Speaker 1: to look into it. So now what you need to
Speaker 1: do is ignore it until the statute of limitations run out,
Speaker 1: and then bring it back up and then we'll investigate
Speaker 1: it because by then there's nothing we can do about it,
Speaker 1: and we'll all look good. That's the method that they use,
Speaker 1: and that's the part of pisses me off.
Speaker 2: Oh that's the method. But I mean, I don't believe
Speaker 2: for a second that the majority of the people there
Speaker 2: know that, because they don't seem to know anything. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we were already over an hour and I want to
Speaker 2: get to the caller first, So we'll get to this
Speaker 2: caller and then take a break after we talk to
Speaker 2: him a bit. And this one is our friends from Florida.
Speaker 2: How you doing.
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: You know I've been better, but then again, I guess
Speaker 2: I'm still breathing, so I don't know. Mentremends what's happening.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, give me one second, Apollot.
Speaker 2: This no no problem, you know, what. I'll just put
Speaker 2: you on mute for a second because I don't want
Speaker 2: to accidentally care whatever conversation you're having, and we'll just
Speaker 2: give you a minute because I definitely heard what sounded
Speaker 2: like a female or a kid's voice there, and I
Speaker 2: don't want to accidentally expose a conversation on you, So
Speaker 2: I'll put you back on in a moment or two.
Speaker 2: But I mean, but I've actually seen these people dumbfounded,
Speaker 2: not knowing what they're there doing when they're questioning somebody.
Speaker 2: You know, we should do this and that, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's not what you do with an oversight committee. We
Speaker 2: don't have investigators, you know. Look, I know you read
Speaker 2: somewhere that we have a jail that we can throw
Speaker 2: people into, but that's not what we do normally. That's
Speaker 2: really there, you know, Uh, okay, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like they don't know what the job they've been sent
Speaker 2: there to do that day is. Half the time, it's
Speaker 2: just they got their script and if you let me
Speaker 2: have the mic for a minute. They also can't count
Speaker 2: five minutes, you know, because like, okay, you have five
Speaker 2: minutes to question the witness, and they spend four minutes
Speaker 2: and forty five seconds, loading up on a big, you
Speaker 2: know speech. Then they ask a question that they know,
Speaker 2: damn well is not going to be answered in fifteen seconds,
Speaker 2: and their time expires, you know, So they can't manage
Speaker 2: time and they don't even know what they're there doing
Speaker 2: most of the time. Pardon the repeat of the word.
Speaker 2: And I've watched this over and it gives me a
Speaker 2: headache every single time. And that I'm sorry. I don't
Speaker 2: care if you got an R or a D in
Speaker 2: front of your name. That's just incompetence. You can't even perform,
Speaker 2: like you know what the job is. You can't even
Speaker 2: ask a coherent question or an informed question when you've
Speaker 2: got five minutes to talk. Think about this, guys, if
Speaker 2: your job boiled down to sit here and when your
Speaker 2: five minutes comes up, ask some questions to make a point.
Speaker 2: Maybe don't leave it all to the staffers. Maybe you
Speaker 2: get yourself, you know, informed, the night before, the hours
Speaker 2: before the hearing. Maybe no, they don't, you know. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring back or call it, so I hope
Speaker 2: your conversation is done because I didn't want to accidentally
Speaker 2: air it. But there you go.
Speaker 3: You're getting the little one was running up Doug tenn Oh.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Like I said, it was either it was
Speaker 2: no no problem. It was either a woman or a child.
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell which, but I didn't want to air
Speaker 2: it whatever it was, so, uh, you know, privacy for
Speaker 2: you anyways. What's on your mind? Man?
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys are talking about Kimmel. Uh, I've
Speaker 3: been you know, maybe I'm making something out of nothing.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's opposite, but.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, I come from the perspective of
Speaker 8: a conspira. You know, call make conspiracy theorist if you want.
Speaker 8: I just don't necessarily subscribe to what the mind story
Speaker 8: Maydia always tells us. I mean Chiml's contractors running out
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty six, there was no talks of Renner.
Speaker 3: He was talking about retiring, you know, just just a
Speaker 3: Kimmel thing alone.
Speaker 8: That to me, I think there's a distinct possibility with
Speaker 8: the ware media operates that it's just another avenue to
Speaker 8: play us against each other, to roll up both sides
Speaker 8: of the aisle, to create more infighting.
Speaker 3: He yeah, that's just me personally and logically. That's where
Speaker 3: my point of view is.
Speaker 2: Right, now, look, I'm only muting you. I'm only muting
Speaker 2: you because of the echo effect, and I just want
Speaker 2: to bounce a comment back at you. Sure that's possible,
Speaker 2: but it's not the best strategy. And if he wants
Speaker 2: to retire, great, and yeah, he could be trying to
Speaker 2: go out with you know, a blaze. But to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, the comment he made wasn't really extreme
Speaker 2: enough to warrant one of those kind of like mic drops.
Speaker 2: Either that or I mean, damn, that guy does not
Speaker 2: have good writers, because I could have come up with
Speaker 2: something better than that if you want to like place
Speaker 2: up on your way out first of all, Second of all,
Speaker 2: little sloppy, and hey, somebody could come up with the
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory that they baited Trump to set him up
Speaker 2: to do that because the guy wanted to retire anyway. Maybe,
Speaker 2: but then you know, you got the Colbert situation, which
Speaker 2: turned into something else. And quite frankly, look, neither one
Speaker 2: of these guys is going to end up like a
Speaker 2: whole lot of other people that are being targeted in
Speaker 2: different ways and put out of business and silenced over
Speaker 2: different people of outrage right now, because they're both you
Speaker 2: if they don't work another day. They're fine. Colbert is
Speaker 2: going to turn this into something else because he's going
Speaker 2: to go back, if I read reports directly, he's rumored
Speaker 2: to maybe go back to doing his conservative character stick
Speaker 2: and probably he's going to do what like everybody else
Speaker 2: does when they leave mainstream media. You know, whether they're
Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson or Don Lemon doesn't matter. They're going to
Speaker 2: go into the podcast now and they're going to create
Speaker 2: their own platform and talk about how they are now
Speaker 2: independent media. Joy Reid is I think starting her own
Speaker 2: independent thing too, and you know, hey, this is what
Speaker 2: they're doing now. Hey, I don't need your company anymore,
Speaker 2: so let's have a little controversy on my way out
Speaker 2: the door and boom, that'll help me launch with my
Speaker 2: grievance into the new Don Lemon hasn't done too well,
Speaker 2: but you know, Tucker Crossing has done great, you know,
Speaker 2: business wise, and Bill O'Reilly is doing all right. You know,
Speaker 2: with the help of Chris Cuomo. We reinvented himself on
Speaker 2: the you know, Ultra the all Christian network over there,
Speaker 2: and he's coupled up with that guy. So you know,
Speaker 2: him and Bill O'Reilly doing well after being fired by
Speaker 2: the bigger name media outlet, so you know, they use
Speaker 2: it as a springboard, too true, and they all do
Speaker 2: one way or another. Now kim O was just gonna
Speaker 2: flat out retire. What does that mean for a guy
Speaker 2: like Jimmy Kimmel. I don't know, But could it be
Speaker 2: that sure a media strategy. It wouldn't be the first
Speaker 2: time somebody, you know, feigned being injured by the public
Speaker 2: or the company or the movie studio or whatever they
Speaker 2: worked for to make themselves more marketable in a post
Speaker 2: job situation. And plus the guy was doing it for
Speaker 2: how many years? Fifteen years at least. I think maybe
Speaker 2: they're all looking to retire. Maybe Late Night you know
Speaker 2: TV's no good anymore. But if that's the case, either
Speaker 2: Trump has been suckered into doing it, or he's a
Speaker 2: willing participant because he's participating in these things as they're
Speaker 2: going on. And yet not so pissed about South Park
Speaker 2: as I thought. I thought he'd be much more angry
Speaker 2: about South Park. But you know, and they're putting him
Speaker 2: in bed with a small penis, with the you know,
Speaker 2: with with with satan, you know, just saying, you know,
Speaker 2: and yet not as much outrage there as the Charlie
Speaker 2: Kirk and O, my god, how dare you outrage? I
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, maybe just maybe another crazy conspiracy
Speaker 2: theorist you know, like me, says it's actually just all
Speaker 2: one big business arrangement, and yeah, you sell the bad
Speaker 2: guy just as well as you do the good guy
Speaker 2: in the wrestling game. And maybe it's all just like
Speaker 2: our WWE Hall of Fame president, you know, planned it
Speaker 2: or somebody planned it for him, really, because I don't
Speaker 2: think he can do that. But then again, the meatheads
Speaker 2: who run wrestling stuff, or the meatheads who do the
Speaker 2: wrestling stuff, or usually not the guys who invented the characters,
Speaker 2: they do have to pull it off as an act.
Speaker 2: And one could say, if Trump is pulling off an
Speaker 2: act here, he's still doing pretty good at that, even
Speaker 2: with the gaffs and mis cues and misstatements and whatever else.
Speaker 2: It's working if that's the case. So I don't know
Speaker 2: what your thoughts are, but any of this could be
Speaker 2: a springboard, of course, and a media conspiracy. Those are
Speaker 2: constantly a possibility, and you can use the negative press.
Speaker 2: I mean, hell, Charlie Sheen just put out a or
Speaker 2: two or three part documentary on Netflix where he literally
Speaker 2: had his crack dealer At the premiere of the Netflix
Speaker 2: documentary Who Is Prominent?
Speaker 1: Really? You talk about nine lives? This is his what
Speaker 1: like his fifth big comeback, but.
Speaker 2: Remember he was winning, winning, and you kind of kind
Speaker 2: of did except he's got HIV now. But other than
Speaker 2: that winning, Yeah, so go ahead, I'm gonna put your
Speaker 2: thing back on. But if I talk while you're on,
Speaker 2: we definitely get nasty echo. So I didn't want to
Speaker 2: do that, but I'm gonna put you back on. Let's see,
Speaker 2: come on, unmute. I tried to unmute you. There it goes.
Speaker 3: Charlie Sham was definitely winning and as there was sucking
Speaker 3: all those decks.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, yeah, he admits that, and that's special too.
Speaker 2: That's funny, but but but not not a lot though. Hey, look,
Speaker 2: whether it was the drugs or the one guy or
Speaker 2: the one guy he briefly fell in love with, I
Speaker 2: don't know, but he's thinking that it's the guy he
Speaker 2: fell in love with briefly. Yeah, no, there's but his
Speaker 2: crack dealer has like I don't know, half an episode
Speaker 2: where the guy's talking at least the crack dealer. You've
Speaker 2: seen that, right, out.
Speaker 8: Of all the people that should have been I mean,
Speaker 8: if you want to go down the route of if
Speaker 8: people technically des there to be canceled, Charlie, Charlie Sae
Speaker 8: would be one of those individuals, because this shit goes
Speaker 8: a little bit further back technically in times of allegations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's for a different episode.
Speaker 2: Definitely, could we could dedicate a whole show to the
Speaker 2: multiple levels of Charlie Sheen in the media and stuff,
Speaker 2: because yeah, and he's been he's run the gamut.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Plus, don't forget he was having a mental breakdown on
Speaker 2: the Alex Jones show, right, I mean there was that too,
Speaker 2: don't forget. And that was before Trump even ran.
Speaker 8: Yeah, totam and you know, you guys were talked about,
Speaker 8: you know, just essentially talking about like the back and
Speaker 8: forth banter of the you know, the the right and left,
Speaker 8: you know the Senate, you know, when they're in these.
Speaker 3: Hearings and such. I mean, it's it's all political.
Speaker 8: I'm sure you have both of y'all seen. Have you
Speaker 8: ever seen like the your opinion Union Parliament?
Speaker 3: You know, when they're in session, like how theatrical it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 8: I mean that's like, that's that's performance on steroidsam there?
Speaker 2: I mean, oh yeah, that rivals are at least that's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Perhaps the the honorable Sir will explain to us how
Speaker 2: it is he got caught with five prostitutes in four days.
Speaker 2: And I would like to know how he accomplished that,
Speaker 2: because I would have been tired, Sir? Can you explain?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really funny actually, and it's a lot more brash,
Speaker 2: but but it's according to procedure. Usually, you know, they
Speaker 2: actually follow the rules.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: But but here in America they don't even play their
Speaker 2: roles right because they don't they you know, I don't
Speaker 2: need to read the script. But in England they read
Speaker 2: the script.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the United States script seems to be like the
Speaker 8: Jerry Springer version.
Speaker 3: That's kind of what I'm taking away from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like like we're just emulating that.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: You know, they're reality TV if you want to call that.
Speaker 2: In England it's still the Mary Show, but here it's
Speaker 2: all Jerry Springer. Now, yeah, that's what it is exactly.
Speaker 2: That that's where we're at, uh, which which is why
Speaker 2: The look on Charles's face is just priceless. While Trump
Speaker 2: is talking, you know where it's like, I neither one
Speaker 2: of you would I be worried about in a chess match.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, okay, but you know, go on, and
Speaker 2: the one weird angle on the photo. Did you see
Speaker 2: the guy it looks almost like he has a plant
Speaker 2: growing out of his head because of the way they
Speaker 2: shot like part of the video. Did you see that,
Speaker 2: Like it looks like the bald guy has a plant
Speaker 2: growing out of his skull. Uh these these sticks? Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's out there, but I was cracking up
Speaker 2: just looking at that because only like two people on
Speaker 2: the internet noticed it. And then I went back over
Speaker 2: the video footage and I'm like, yeah, if you capture
Speaker 2: the stills, like and it's not one, still a lot
Speaker 2: of them. This guy looks like he's got a plant
Speaker 2: growing out of his head because of the optical illution,
Speaker 2: it's pretty funny.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: Well, while Trump is sitting there talking and like I
Speaker 2: was totally distracted by that first time I was trying
Speaker 2: to listen to him, I'm like, what the hell is
Speaker 2: going on with that guy's head? Yeah? Weird stuff. But
Speaker 2: then again, I've been asking that question about Nancy Grace
Speaker 2: for about twenty years and nobody will answer it. What
Speaker 2: the hell's wrong with Nancy Grace's head is one of
Speaker 2: the first questions I asked on my radio show anyway.
Speaker 2: But you know, some questions are not meant to be answered,
Speaker 2: I guess. But you've seen this stuff in Parliament over
Speaker 2: there right where they do like what I describe words
Speaker 2: like peraps. You'd like to explain out is it so corrupt?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something. There's a rule that they could change
Speaker 1: in our House and our Senate that would really help things,
Speaker 1: and that is none of these people could be held
Speaker 1: accountable for what they say from the das. If they're
Speaker 1: up there speaking, they can't be hold accountable for anything
Speaker 1: they say. That's why you don't hear people holler. You
Speaker 1: can't call them a liar. And I've never understood that
Speaker 1: if these people are elected to represent us, then they
Speaker 1: need to be up there speaking what they can back up.
Speaker 1: And it would cut a lot of this crap out.
Speaker 1: It would cut out this grand standing when you call
Speaker 1: in a witness for here. Look, we only got so
Speaker 1: much time and we would better utilize our time. If
Speaker 1: you didn't take ten minutes to just read off some
Speaker 1: diatribe at somebody and get in all your talking points
Speaker 1: against the other side, that's not the reason for the hearing.
Speaker 1: You're bringing up things that aren't even included in the hearing.
Speaker 1: So they need to change these rules on debate or
Speaker 1: discussion or whatever the hell they want to call it now.
Speaker 1: If they want to make it more like Britain where
Speaker 1: you can get up and criticize the guy and trash
Speaker 1: talk him and everything else, Okay, fine, that's what is
Speaker 1: going to evolve down into. But when I heard some
Speaker 1: of these things that were said to some of these
Speaker 1: witnesses over the past month in these hearings that they've had,
Speaker 1: I thought, buddy, you wait until you step out of
Speaker 1: the damn building, because I'm on fucking clean your clock.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised it hasn't come to that some of the
Speaker 1: things that have been said about people. Cash Bettel did
Speaker 1: an excellent job standing up for himself against boneheads and
Speaker 1: buffoons from California when he basically took it to them.
Speaker 1: You know, they wanted to argue, He was ready to
Speaker 1: argue right back, and they didn't like it, and now
Speaker 1: we have them all going to the chair, mister Cherriman,
Speaker 1: that's not chair. Rashida de leib I hate to say it, honey,
Speaker 1: you are in way over your head. If you can't
Speaker 1: take an argument from somebody that points out to you
Speaker 1: that you're wrong and you have to go crying to
Speaker 1: somebody about your precious thirty five seconds that you wanted,
Speaker 1: it just irritates the living hell out of me. They
Speaker 1: need to change the whole system.
Speaker 2: Fair enough. But you honestly think cash Pettel is like
Speaker 2: doing a job that looks like coherent and you know,
Speaker 2: actually doing the job well. The way he's handling things.
Speaker 1: You think so, based on the numbers that they've put
Speaker 1: out so far in seven months compared to what was
Speaker 1: done in the last four years. Yeah, I think he's
Speaker 1: doing a very good job. Between him and Tulca Gabbart,
Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot of stuff you wouldn't otherwise see.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I see an incompetent idiot. But for some
Speaker 2: reason you're seeing different and I'm not.
Speaker 1: You know, no, I don't know. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: incompetent based on his background when he was a prosecutor
Speaker 1: and the work that he did for noons and they
Speaker 1: were going through this rush. I mean, he's the one
Speaker 1: that broke the crap in Russiagate and found out what
Speaker 1: was going on. You wouldn't know anything about that if
Speaker 1: he hadn't been working as an inspector or an investigator
Speaker 1: for Neoness in his crowd. I think I think Cashpit
Speaker 1: telling Now, this is one thing I don't understand, though.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to me at all. He
Speaker 1: was telling people in that hearing that all of the
Speaker 1: Epstein files that could be released have been released, that
Speaker 1: anything that hasn't been released is something that they either
Speaker 1: can't do legally or because of these deals that were
Speaker 1: done back in two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: when Acosta wrote off this plea agreement for Epstein. Now,
Speaker 1: my question is this, the court decided that that deal
Speaker 1: was invalid. And if the deal is invalid, then why
Speaker 1: aren't the hell are we seeing more information coming out?
Speaker 1: What is it thirty three thousand documents they supposedly put out,
Speaker 1: But you've got Thomas Massey over there talking about a
Speaker 1: list of twenty big wigs that are supposed to be
Speaker 1: in the Epstein files. Now we don't know why they're
Speaker 1: in there. They could just be mentioned so and so
Speaker 1: met so and so for dinner at this restaurant. Blah.
Speaker 2: That could be all it is.
Speaker 1: But they're supposed to be big names and what I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to be real big in the administration. Well, my
Speaker 1: question is this, Thomas Massey is relying on PTIL to
Speaker 1: put that out. Why doesn't Thomas Massey give us the
Speaker 1: names same things? Where all these Epstein victims they all say, well,
Speaker 1: we're going to provide our own list. Okay, put up
Speaker 1: or shut up, because we've gotten to the point now
Speaker 1: that if we don't get this one thing solved, nothing
Speaker 1: everything ties to Epstein. I don't understand that we've got
Speaker 1: a healthcare debate. Yeah, well, you're not letting the Epstein
Speaker 1: files open. What the hell is that going one got
Speaker 1: to do with the other. Let's talk about what we're
Speaker 1: here to talk about. Let the goddamn if the files
Speaker 1: are out there, somebody from the administration needs to come
Speaker 1: out and say, we have released everything that we can release.
Speaker 1: If there's anything that anybody else has put it out there,
Speaker 1: let us see it. Thomas Massey can put that list
Speaker 1: out there if he knows who. There's twenty names on
Speaker 1: that list that need to be spoken of. Put it
Speaker 1: out there. It's not illegal to do it, all right too?
Speaker 1: Is it illegal to do it? And that's why he
Speaker 1: hasn't Well.
Speaker 2: See two notes on this one. How come nobody else
Speaker 2: is saying everything that's out is out except this guy
Speaker 2: because there's some dispute as to that, and maybe somebody
Speaker 2: should go over it and a fresh pair of eyes
Speaker 2: should be looked at, you know, maybe that's a possibility. Also.
Speaker 2: You know, I asked about do you think he's being
Speaker 2: competent now? And you tell me about Russia Gate? Okay,
Speaker 2: But my thing is he handled that whole situation with
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk badly, and not just the tweet. A bunch
Speaker 2: of things were done badly, which is why there's a
Speaker 2: bunch of confusions still.
Speaker 1: And then he admitted that well, yeah, but he said,
Speaker 1: I could have done a better job of putting the
Speaker 1: statements out there.
Speaker 2: Okay, but it's not just the statements. There's other things
Speaker 2: going on there where there could be all kinds of
Speaker 2: damage to the prosecution if we were dealing with a
Speaker 2: normal situation here, but we're not so anyway, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: And that's why I spent time trying to go over
Speaker 2: that and being like, look, this is what we can see,
Speaker 2: and God knows what's going on behind the scenes, because
Speaker 2: you've got a contaminated murder scene, because you've got a
Speaker 2: contaminated murder scene that nobody acknowledged. Okay, you got a
Speaker 2: bunch of other weird things going on nobody acknowledged. And
Speaker 2: you know, there's a bunch of issues here where there
Speaker 2: were ill advised statements, yes, but there was also ill
Speaker 2: advised pieces of the investigation that we can see. And
Speaker 2: I'm not saying we can even see at all. Maybe
Speaker 2: there was stell or stellar work going on that we
Speaker 2: don't see. But I got a problem with it because
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, a local prosecutor would be like,
Speaker 2: holy crap, man, the fact that this leak out, this
Speaker 2: went out, not just a statements, but a bunch of
Speaker 2: stuff happened. These are problems. And I don't see them
Speaker 2: yelling about leakers. I don't see them yelling about you know, hey,
Speaker 2: look you're harming the case. Even the collecting seven thousand
Speaker 2: leads and all this other stuff. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they took care of it quickly. But you know, but
Speaker 2: then again, how anyway, a lot of things there to
Speaker 2: be questioned, and I think a fresh set of eyes
Speaker 2: to go over. You know, it takes more than one
Speaker 2: person to figure out whether legally you can do something usually,
Speaker 2: and I would say there's often different interpretations to exactly
Speaker 2: how different jurisdictions are held over different documents. And I
Speaker 2: guarantee you they haven't released every thing they could because
Speaker 2: there's probably all a bunch of mundane crap. Because I'm
Speaker 2: not seeing the mundane crap. There's a bunch of three
Speaker 2: two reports that could be released that don't have names
Speaker 2: on them that would matter to anybody.
Speaker 1: Well, see, they're just it.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 1: He's falling back on this argument of we can't release
Speaker 1: information on individuals that were investigated and turned out that
Speaker 1: there's nothing there that's bull you know, And he made
Speaker 1: it and this is one of those slick arguments. He
Speaker 1: was saying, we are limited to the information that we
Speaker 1: have from the search warrants that were issued for the
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight case. Okay,
Speaker 1: there was also a case when they brought charges in
Speaker 1: twenty and nineteen against Epstein before he went to jail
Speaker 1: and supposedly offen himself. Okay, that's what about those search warrants?
Speaker 1: That's right, I see we haven't seen that material yet apparently,
Speaker 1: which when they say Epstein files, I'm wondering if if
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about the same thing, the Justice Department is
Speaker 1: talking about everything that was connected to him in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, two thousand and seven and eight, that
Speaker 1: a costa worked out. There was a twenty nineteen arrest
Speaker 1: and it had to be based on and it was
Speaker 1: based on trafficking charges between him and Glenn Maxwell to
Speaker 1: him trafficking girls to him. We haven't seen squat I
Speaker 1: think of those files. Not only that the man is dead,
Speaker 1: the estate only has so much leverage over what can
Speaker 1: be done Epstein. I know Epstein had some pool, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't the Kennedy's. He can't keep things closed forever.
Speaker 1: My question is when do we need an independent investigator
Speaker 1: to go in and start opening all this crap up?
Speaker 1: Because if you're refer to stuff from two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, and that deal that was
Speaker 1: done then is invalid, why in the hell aren't that
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. They don't want want to open up
Speaker 1: a new investigation. They want to put it out under
Speaker 1: the carpet, sweep it away, be done with it, and
Speaker 1: worry about something else.
Speaker 2: Well, there's that's the problem.
Speaker 1: Looks they want to get rid of it, and the
Speaker 1: public doesn't.
Speaker 2: All right, So before I turn the caller back open
Speaker 2: and hopefully get to a break before the hour's over.
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing. The civil lawsuits which the victims
Speaker 2: are willing to have, you know, shown, I guarantee we're
Speaker 2: collected and were collected as part of evidence and therefore
Speaker 2: could be what released as part of things that were
Speaker 2: already taken care of. Here we haven't seen that. And
Speaker 2: the other weird question is so they traffic to nobody
Speaker 2: but Jeffrey Epstein. Now even people that he was bragging
Speaker 2: to that were writing articles about him, which this is
Speaker 2: something that Jeffrey Epstein did at one time, you know,
Speaker 2: about his young girls and how he was surrounded by
Speaker 2: women and he was a jet center and all that.
Speaker 2: Even those people had publicly shown things that could be
Speaker 2: followed up on that guaranteed were collected, and he was
Speaker 2: publicly flaunting this. And it seems to me like many
Speaker 2: of those stories would show that there wasn't just trafficking
Speaker 2: to Epstein. He wasn't just hiring prostitutes for himself basically,
Speaker 2: which is another weird thing that's gone on.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 2: Everything that's prostitution essentially falls under trafficking. And what you're
Speaker 2: saying is he never shared, he never had these parties,
Speaker 2: He never had any friends over that he Okay, So,
Speaker 2: having been around guys who do this before, and not
Speaker 2: my good friends, but friends who are like regularly involved
Speaker 2: in this kind of thing. If you have your friends around,
Speaker 2: which this guy always did, there's no way that at
Speaker 2: some point there wasn't trafficked girls to his friends. So
Speaker 2: there's no co conspirators whatsoever to be revealed that I
Speaker 2: don't buy, just based on real world logic.
Speaker 1: But anyway, well here keep this in mind, though, real quick.
Speaker 1: Keep this in mind. Bill Cosby cooperated with investigators on
Speaker 1: a case, and part of that deal was I will
Speaker 1: help you with this case, provide information I cannot be prosecuted.
Speaker 1: And then what do they do down the road? They
Speaker 1: hit him with a prosecution. And that's how Cosby got
Speaker 1: off and got his stuff overturned. Was because of that
Speaker 1: other agreement Now we have agreements that were put in
Speaker 1: place by a Costa back in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, which barred the federal government
Speaker 1: from going after him and also barred them from any
Speaker 1: prosecution naming. And I believe it was for it's four
Speaker 1: other people and others unnamed. So we don't know how
Speaker 1: far that reach goes. There's a good chance that if
Speaker 1: they tried to do anything now, that agreement that was
Speaker 1: made could possibly queer the whole deal. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what they're afraid of, and I think that's why
Speaker 1: the Big faction wants to sweep it away. It's done.
Speaker 1: We put these documents out there. Make of it what
Speaker 1: you will the other side. And I don't know why
Speaker 1: the Democrats have suddenly snagged onto this like a dog
Speaker 1: with a bone and won't let go of it. But
Speaker 1: you know, they sat for what four years of Biden
Speaker 1: and didn't do a damn thing about Epstein. You didn't
Speaker 1: hear about Epstein except the fact that he didn't hang himself.
Speaker 1: Other than that, you didn't hear anything for four years
Speaker 1: under the last Justice Department. So what has changed now
Speaker 1: that the Democrats are holding on to this thing and
Speaker 1: won't let go of it so hard, and a half
Speaker 1: of a feeling that has to do with that list
Speaker 1: of twenty people Tommy Massey Thomas Massey.
Speaker 2: Was talking about. So either that or the fact that
Speaker 2: Epstein was arrested and killed himself under the Trump administration
Speaker 2: and therefore, you know, dead issue. Maybe before all this,
Speaker 2: before the left and right paradigm got a hold of it,
Speaker 2: quite frankly, independent media was asking these questions and one
Speaker 2: newspaper in Florida, you know, and then the right wing
Speaker 2: picked it up and it became an echo chamber thing
Speaker 2: because all the celebrities had to be involved, and they
Speaker 2: wanted to tell you about, you know, Katie Kirk and
Speaker 2: all Oprah being on the plane or whatever, what was
Speaker 2: the guy from a House of Cards who got acquitted
Speaker 2: Actually his career's right, thank you, Kevin Spacey. You know,
Speaker 2: that's where they wanted to go. But then they wanted
Speaker 2: to drop it. It's been an interesting hot potato that
Speaker 2: was in neither the left or the right's hands. Then
Speaker 2: it was in the right's hands. Now it's in the
Speaker 2: left's hands. And you know what, at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, I don't think any of them want to
Speaker 2: bring it out anyway, call it from Florida one more
Speaker 2: time before we take a quick break. Now, y'all talking
Speaker 2: about Epstein a bit. I mean.
Speaker 3: You're familiar with Jesselin Maxwell's father.
Speaker 2: Correct, of course, Robert Maxwell.
Speaker 8: Okay, you're familiar with this, Yes, Robert Maxwell, you're familiar
Speaker 8: with this. Possible ties to Masade. I mean that's not
Speaker 8: necessarily a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2: Not just massage, not just Masade, but various intelligence.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say possible, I'd say definite.
Speaker 2: I would also say definite, and I'd say almost definite
Speaker 2: on various other intelligence agencies as well. Uh, media guy
Speaker 2: and also and also a shyster who was some funneling
Speaker 2: money because he was busted at one point. And you
Speaker 2: know that too, uh so uh crook an intelligence asset
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, definitely a deep dark rabbit hole her
Speaker 2: father in and of itself.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, okay, Epstein as a fall guy. He was
Speaker 3: just a guy with a sex addiction rose to somehow
Speaker 3: a mess of millions of dollars. And I mean what
Speaker 3: what we consider, you.
Speaker 8: Know, politically, I mean the ability to just you know,
Speaker 8: have the ability to change, uh, the political.
Speaker 3: Political setting in the country just just off as just
Speaker 3: from just from his own you know.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm sorry, I'm stuttering a little bit here. You know,
Speaker 8: he he originated what as a teacher professor.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that was it.
Speaker 3: That was his job too.
Speaker 1: And his connection through the control mechanisms in the school
Speaker 1: in the world as we like to call it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there there's that, plus his connection to Les
Speaker 2: Wexner with the whole you know, those brands including Victoria's
Speaker 2: Secret and uh Lane Bryant and all that right, uh
Speaker 2: which and by the way, nobody can satisfactorily explain to
Speaker 2: me how this guy, you know, acquired the wealth he did.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 8: People willingly giving him what multi million million dollar pieces
Speaker 8: of property, that type of stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean, ship, I wish I had the connections that
Speaker 3: that guy had.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Well, to be honest with you, I don't New York
Speaker 8: was Come on, that's that's some fairy tale bullshit.
Speaker 1: To the odd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is used to massade and the rest of them
Speaker 2: mus aim.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it was the sexual aspect. I
Speaker 1: agree with Chris. You know, Epstein was a guy with
Speaker 1: a sex addiction. Yeah, And there were a lot of
Speaker 1: young women around and I'm not saying things didn't go
Speaker 1: on there, but I think the greatest time said that
Speaker 1: Epstein was to massade and the FBI, the CIA and
Speaker 1: any of these other organizations. I think he was in
Speaker 1: charge of just Whitewashington. You know, he was money laundering
Speaker 1: for these people and putting their money in places that
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be touched. And I think that was his
Speaker 1: greatest asset. Who's got the geld and where are they
Speaker 1: hiding it? More than anything you can blackmail somebody with,
Speaker 1: you know, today's hard to blackmail someone, Oh you met
Speaker 1: up with? So look at Stormy Daniels and Trump. Did
Speaker 1: that really affect him? No, So the sex thing is
Speaker 1: not as bad as he used to be back in
Speaker 1: the fifties when Jagger Hoover was doing it. You know,
Speaker 1: he took advantage of it. I think Epstein's value he
Speaker 1: knew where the money was hidden for a lot of
Speaker 1: people and for a lot of organizations, and I think
Speaker 1: that's where they had him by the balls.
Speaker 2: Well, look, cheating on your wife, you know, with a
Speaker 2: grown woman, is not the same as taking advantage of teenagers,
Speaker 2: you know, just saying but nonetheless, yeah, no, he was
Speaker 2: clearly an asset of other kinds. And I'll tell you
Speaker 2: what if that's what he got off of the skin,
Speaker 2: imagine what the hell it would have been he would
Speaker 2: have had to launder. Anyways, we'll take a quick break
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Speaker 2: one six that's the number to call. And uh, look
Speaker 2: it's out there for all. But like I said, maybe
Speaker 2: maybe people have tuned over to another Maybe I should
Speaker 2: see if he wants a co host on his call
Speaker 2: in shows. Maybe maybe we could have a three way
Speaker 2: call in show. What do you think, b Pete? You
Speaker 2: want to join nature Boy on his platform if he
Speaker 2: wants to do it, what do you think?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I think about that.
Speaker 2: I got proposals to do, you know, like some of
Speaker 2: these shows on other networks, and Ground Zero offered to
Speaker 2: put me up there, but that's a weird complication. And
Speaker 2: also they talked about and putting me on with the
Speaker 2: New Prisoners the TNP network and just airing this show,
Speaker 2: but it would be like streamed on Rumble. But I
Speaker 2: don't know how possible that is outside of the Friday show.
Speaker 2: And I wasn't sure if we should even try it.
Speaker 2: But anyway, who knows. I don't know what to try
Speaker 2: because things are things.
Speaker 1: Well, we can give anything a try.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking we could do it, you know if
Speaker 2: somebody wants to we're gonna need help streaming onto their platform,
Speaker 2: but somebody might volunteer to do that. We'll see. I
Speaker 2: guess anyhow, I'm just gonna let it roll because nobody
Speaker 2: else is calling in, and we'll go back to our
Speaker 2: lone caller for the night. Usually we get Jimmy James,
Speaker 2: either he overslept or joined Nature Boy, though maybe he's
Speaker 2: doing naked news over there now. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I give up. It's been such like I
Speaker 2: told you, it's been just one thing after another past
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, and I don't know. I'm demoralized, to
Speaker 2: be honest with you, so, I mean, my energy levels down.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to do with myself. I
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time trying to put together two
Speaker 2: other podcasts this week and then just didn't do them.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping I can get Pierce Redmond on next week,
Speaker 2: and Larry should be back with us, and I'll even
Speaker 2: try and you get back with Mike and a few others.
Speaker 2: But I've been trying to produce, you know, at a
Speaker 2: higher level recently, what it is that I'm doing. But
Speaker 2: unless I have time to go through hundreds and hundreds
Speaker 2: of things in order to, you know, do some research
Speaker 2: before I start speaking. I don't feel confident doing a podcast,
Speaker 2: so unless it's this one. This one doesn't require research,
Speaker 2: but it requires callers. So anyways, anything you want to
Speaker 2: add before I open back up on the call lines, No,
Speaker 2: bring them on, bring them on, all right? Anyway, anything
Speaker 2: else you want to add this week? You kick it
Speaker 2: off instead of reacting to us again.
Speaker 3: You know, I could take it in a couple of
Speaker 3: different directions.
Speaker 8: You know, one thing and this could this could also
Speaker 8: be technically, you know when you asked me for the
Speaker 8: last thing I want to say before you in the podcast, I'm.
Speaker 3: Just sure you know, Stanning harolining against my truck bed
Speaker 3: talking to you guys, I'm looking at the beautiful sky.
Speaker 2: Now check on.
Speaker 8: I know you've got some vision issues them, and this
Speaker 8: time of the year you get the Honestly, it's a
Speaker 8: most beautiful skyliness you can ever witness. I mean now
Speaker 8: through the now through I'm in essentially January. I mean,
Speaker 8: just the stars are popping most beautifully personally with us. Uh,
Speaker 8: you know, I suggest if you have the ability and
Speaker 8: take your ass outside and.
Speaker 3: The still said and look at the beauty around you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's too much negative ship in this world, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Not true. Look if you got access too much trying
Speaker 2: to sound corny, you know what I mean, it's not
Speaker 2: appreciate the beauty around us, dude, exactly. Look, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I missed the ocean, you know that's uh. I missed
Speaker 2: the ocean on the Jersey shore for sure.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I loved looking at the sun, you know, coming
Speaker 2: up because you know you're facing the east, so that's
Speaker 2: what you get. But also, you know, you find a
Speaker 2: good tree line, or you find a good other natural
Speaker 2: landscape and you watch the sun go down in the west,
Speaker 2: and uh, yeah, those things alone are worth you know,
Speaker 2: if admission is all the crap you got to go
Speaker 2: through in life, it's worth the price of admission to
Speaker 2: get a couple of those snapshots in your head. And
Speaker 2: it definitely changes how you feel at the moment and
Speaker 2: can put you on a path for what you're gonna
Speaker 2: do for the next little while. You know, if you
Speaker 2: adjust yourself every once in a while, take a moment
Speaker 2: to take in nature, take a moment to take in
Speaker 2: you don't like the woods, you don't like the bugs,
Speaker 2: I get it. But like I said, the beach. You know,
Speaker 2: I never got bugs at the beach, you know. And
Speaker 2: I didn't catch crabs there, although I used to go
Speaker 2: crabig but I never caught crabs anyway, just saying I
Speaker 2: used to love the beach.
Speaker 8: I was raised, and I was raised in sarah Sota,
Speaker 8: So I used to gotta before I'm up here to
Speaker 8: all count nah, and I don't care about docs rying
Speaker 8: that stuff. But before I'm up to I mean, yeah,
Speaker 8: I used to love. I didn't like going to the
Speaker 8: beach during the daylight because you know me, I'm a ginger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I burned pretty pretty easily.
Speaker 1: That shit.
Speaker 3: Man. I can sit there and stare at that, you know. No,
Speaker 3: just watch the sunset the beach at night. The stars
Speaker 3: descend upon the water exactly.
Speaker 2: No, the beat the beach at night. That's another thing.
Speaker 2: See the beach at night and then watch the sun
Speaker 2: come up, you know, in the early morning. Both things
Speaker 2: were great. And the thing is, part of my eye
Speaker 2: condition is ocular albinism, which means I'm highly light sensitive,
Speaker 2: so I don't like to be in the sun at all. No,
Speaker 2: mostly when I'm talking about the beach, I always forget
Speaker 2: to mention this. It's in the evenings or yeah, when
Speaker 2: the sun first comes up, it's not that hot out,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not that blazing. It is beautiful when
Speaker 2: it comes up, but I don't like to stay in
Speaker 2: it long. I love the beach at night. I used
Speaker 2: to love to, you know, take girlfriends there. I would
Speaker 2: have friends there. I love the boardwalk even you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes it was better to not have your feet in
Speaker 2: the sand, you know what I mean, depending on the day.
Speaker 2: And no, I love that and I've always found that
Speaker 2: to be, you know, one of the best balancing things
Speaker 2: in my life. But if look, if you're further inland
Speaker 2: and you can find a lake, bodies of water are
Speaker 2: incredibly soothing to a lot of us, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I no, I advise that. And some people love the mountains.
Speaker 2: I'm not a mountain guy.
Speaker 3: I love the mountains.
Speaker 2: I can't argue with that.
Speaker 3: I just love beautiful scenery.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, beautiful scenery is beautiful. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 2: you know, if you had to pick one, I'm definitely
Speaker 2: you know, putting there. And the water is cleaner, or
Speaker 2: it used to be cleaner anyway, in Florida, last time
Speaker 2: I was there, water was much cleaner than it was
Speaker 2: in Jersey, for sure, But nonetheless, to me, there was
Speaker 2: just something and I can't even figure out why, but
Speaker 2: to me, the Jersey Shore was just better, you know,
Speaker 2: and not not where you're sitting there staring at, you know,
Speaker 2: not the part of Jersey where you can look over
Speaker 2: and see the Statue of Liberty in between you know,
Speaker 2: us and New York, which you know, but further down,
Speaker 2: a little bit further down, and not as far as
Speaker 2: Atlantic City or Cape May but my area. I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe it's just because I grew up there. But between that,
Speaker 2: there's like a train that runs up and down the
Speaker 2: Jersey Shore, and almost any of those stops is great
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned. But yeah, absolutely so nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with bringing that up. So promoting that as a look,
Speaker 2: that's a much better activity than staring and doom scrolling
Speaker 2: on Twitter all day.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I agree, you know, but here in.
Speaker 2: Georgia, you know what, sometimes the sky does interesting things.
Speaker 2: I mean, no matter where you are, you know, if
Speaker 2: you're on this planet, you can find something, even looking
Speaker 2: at things in the city, if you get to the
Speaker 2: right perch in the city. It's not so bad. You know.
Speaker 2: You go to a rooftop in New York and yeah,
Speaker 2: you still see a lot of the other taller buildings
Speaker 2: because you don't likely live in, you know, the Empire,
Speaker 2: State Building and whatnot. But even looking at that and
Speaker 2: trying to look at the marvelous way that the unnatural
Speaker 2: light bounces off of nature, it's something else too, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just kind of a remarkable situation. If you look
Speaker 2: at some of the simpler things again, you know, it
Speaker 2: helps you to simplify a lot of the things that
Speaker 2: drive you crazy in or super complex all the time. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you'd agree with that. BP.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm torn between the mountains and the coast. Where
Speaker 1: I'm at now, it's just flat farmland. But I'm about
Speaker 1: an hour from the coast. I'm about five hours from
Speaker 1: the mountains, and I just I could take either one.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I like them both.
Speaker 2: See, flat farmland is one of those things I never liked.
Speaker 2: And we had that in Jersey too, if you went
Speaker 2: out to like places like Salem or there's a couple
Speaker 2: other spots there. But believe it or not, there was
Speaker 2: a reason why they called it the Garden state at
Speaker 2: one point. I know all the jokes are like they are,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, garden if it's a garden of chemicals,
Speaker 2: huh huh, whatnot. But there's a lot to be said
Speaker 2: about it, and you can find a lot of beauty
Speaker 2: if you are looking for it. So we got another
Speaker 2: caller here with about seven eight minutes left, so I
Speaker 2: say we go to him. And I just saw him
Speaker 2: pop up, and I mean just pop up, familiar looking number.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Jimmy, we've only got a few minutes left,
Speaker 2: but welcome to it. How are you man.
Speaker 4: To get on so quick?
Speaker 2: I tried, I tried. If I didn't get you on quick,
Speaker 2: you wouldn't be on at all. I only got a
Speaker 2: few minutes left.
Speaker 4: A few minutes. You got seven by my clock?
Speaker 5: Okay, well in any case.
Speaker 2: Six and a half, But all right, whatever.
Speaker 4: Why uh so there are more shows coming, Uncle Bean?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, first Arran then Uncle you know, in their
Speaker 2: usual slots hopefully and get them on in time.
Speaker 4: All right, good, all right, So no nof I'm gonna
Speaker 4: make a little pronouncement. Uh So, I'm just gonna go
Speaker 4: ahead and put this out there, and I want to
Speaker 4: hear what you get to say so members of Task
Speaker 4: Force w killed JFK.
Speaker 5: That's just the way it is.
Speaker 4: Riper Roberts probably tack esterline. Is Harvey involved, yes or no?
Speaker 2: Mm? Well, if that is the case, then he would
Speaker 2: kind of have to be, wouldn't he.
Speaker 5: No, not necessarily, Okay, I'm asking you.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't have a defenditive answer.
Speaker 1: Harvey.
Speaker 4: Mister Harvey's never been a super duper. I haven't look
Speaker 4: everyone so it's been blabb during about him for so long.
Speaker 4: I automatically just tossed him aside. So I'll leave it
Speaker 4: to someone else who knows that do better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I made the same error years ago, I think, uh,
Speaker 2: and I don't think he should be tossed right aside.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I kind of had that, Like you're bringing
Speaker 2: him up so much. It's like you know, saying Alan Doles,
Speaker 2: which is you know, silly.
Speaker 4: But exactly Yeah, to the point where it got, you know,
Speaker 4: shame on me.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, but I you just heard me say I
Speaker 2: made the same mistake at one point, So you know,
Speaker 2: I I understand, but that that's a mistake. You know,
Speaker 2: people have added and subtracted, uh, you know, suspects to
Speaker 2: the list so many times and so incorrectly, it's not
Speaker 2: even funny. And now we got another caller. Everybody's going
Speaker 2: to call it the end. This is great. Okay, well
Speaker 2: oh nope, he went that's cool. Nope, he hung out.
Speaker 4: He's gone.
Speaker 2: He hung up as soon as I said it.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, yep, okay, oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: Well, uh do pete, Pete, you want to get in
Speaker 4: what's your what's your in my scenario?
Speaker 1: Is Oswald involved, no premise?
Speaker 4: Not Harvey long, Harvey task Force, w Harvey.
Speaker 1: Oh that's I'm weak on that. I'm really not even
Speaker 1: clear on the specifics. That's not one thing I really
Speaker 1: dived into. I'd have to research it.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I mean Harvey just you probably were like me,
Speaker 4: after you hear them a thousand times for a long time,
Speaker 4: I just said whatever. But no, I'm starting to think, Eh,
Speaker 4: maybe he is.
Speaker 1: What do you what's the main thing that you base
Speaker 1: your scenario on. I mean, you say that they were responsible.
Speaker 1: What is there one concrete thing that sticks out that
Speaker 1: you commit it on or is it just you get
Speaker 1: that feeling off a bunch of different things.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's I'm just analyzing the overall work
Speaker 4: of Professor Hancock, Professor Mellan, and some other people. And
Speaker 4: it's absolutely been shown by the documents. The Rip Roberts
Speaker 4: team was in Dallas, Texas. It's been shown by phone records.
Speaker 4: The Rip Roberts team was in Dallas. Rip Roberts team
Speaker 4: told people they were in Dallas. Many of them confessed
Speaker 4: before They're bizarre deaths that they were in Dallas. And yes,
Speaker 4: even the photographs seemed to show.
Speaker 5: That they were in Dallas.
Speaker 4: I have no reason to not believe they were in Dallas.
Speaker 4: If the I and S says they were in Dallas,
Speaker 4: the FBI says they were in Dallas. They told everyone
Speaker 4: they were in Dallas.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, what, Yeah, I'm thinking they were Dallas. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know. I got you there. I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, but let me ask you.
Speaker 1: Are they are they telling everybody that they're in Dallas
Speaker 1: and everybody knows they're in Dallas because they were in
Speaker 1: Dallas to do the job or to distract away from
Speaker 1: those that were in Dallas that actually carried it off.
Speaker 2: There you go that that's that's a very good question. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: we don't have time for it. I will say this though,
Speaker 2: I'm getting more and more agitated with everything from Charlie
Speaker 2: Kirk to jfk now being the responsibility of Israel. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys noticed that, but you know
Speaker 2: that is still it's getting a little tired. And I
Speaker 2: mean that there's not a left or a right problem.
Speaker 2: By the way, b Pete, that is an across the
Speaker 2: board derangement.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, And that's why I asked you
Speaker 1: the other day. I you know, I didn't think it
Speaker 1: would happen as quick as it did, but it was
Speaker 1: right out the gate. But you pointed out, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I told you. Within within an hour, within an hour,
Speaker 2: they were saying, you know what, Charlie Kirk got clip
Speaker 2: because he criticized Israel, and that's what happened.
Speaker 1: So I know what.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: You know what really confirmed it for a lot of
Speaker 1: people is when the claim came out to Ben Shapiro
Speaker 1: was taking over turning point USA.
Speaker 2: Yeah that works too, No, listen, it all works in there.
Speaker 1: Uh you know because because Jimmy, Yeah, well, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say quickly, Jimmy, I will try to look into
Speaker 1: what I will do as much as I can in
Speaker 1: the next week and we will continue your question on
Speaker 1: next week's show.
Speaker 2: There you go, so a promise from B Pete And
Speaker 2: with that, guys, I'm sorry, but we are at a
Speaker 2: time and uh yeah, we're just gonna have to get
Speaker 2: this one over with and I'll continue with the Age
Speaker 2: of Transitions coming up next onotelly dot Com Radio. B Pete,
Speaker 2: I want to thank you. I want to thank Chris,
Speaker 2: and I want to thank Jimmy James for calling in
Speaker 2: and the third caller I didn't even get to identify
Speaker 2: before they dropped off, but is what it is, was
Speaker 2: what it was, and thanks a lot everybody. We will
Speaker 2: see you again next Friday, for sure, and I will
Speaker 2: try to get out some material during the week that
Speaker 2: will hopefully, you know, go along with everybody's requests. I
Speaker 2: have a few requests. I got like ten listeners, so
Speaker 2: you can all be heard. How about that, you know,
Speaker 2: according to the feedback I'm getting anymore, so why not
Speaker 2: let's do it anyway? Until then, I'm Ocelli, You're the effect.
Speaker 2: Maybe good night