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Speaker 1: And and Hi, how are you welcome? Welcome to the

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Big Podcast. It is Wednesday. Today is the twenty sixth

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day of November, Year of Our Lord, twenty and twenty five.

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My name is Tom Sullivan. We asked we're getting set

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to record today. There is breaking news out of Washington,

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d C. Two of the National Guard troops have been shot.

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It was just about a block and a half from

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the White House for those of you familiar with Washington,

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at seventeenth and H Street by Farragut Park. So apparently

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there was by some citizens reporting there was a shootout.

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So the originally when the National Guard was sent to Washington,

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d C. They were unarmed, but since then they have

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replaced some of those with troops from West Virginia and

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from Georgia. Well, these two soldiers apparently are from West Virginia.

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And to add to the confusion, the West Virginia governor

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had sent out this is why I'm a little delayed

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getting started here today. He sent out a tweet saying

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that they died, the two soldiers had been killed. Then

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half an hour later he says, well, we're not sure,

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so there's a lot of confusion, and I'm sure that

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will be sorted out as we work our way through here.

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But this was apparently a shootout, so the West Virginia

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National Guard soldiers are armed, and this will bring up

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the whole discussion about National Guard troops that are being

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sent to cities, especially those from other jurisdictions, other states.

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There are apparently, according to WRC in Washington, nine hundred

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and fifty national Guard troops on duty in our nation's capital,

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four hundred and twenty of those about half from West Virginia,

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and I'm not sure if the balance is Georgia or not,

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but it's so it's a breaking story, and we'll bring

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up the whole discussion about National Guard troops in patrolling

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in our nation city. The story I wanted to start

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with today was how the word affordability. It was brought

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up after the Democrats won Virginia and New Jersey governorships

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and also ma'm Donnie's win in New York City about affordability,

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and the President brushed it off and said, it's that's

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a Democrat hoax. You know, we're doing better than we

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ever have and all that, but that's the way he talks.

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The thing is, there's always been an issue around affordability.

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For as long as I can remember. There are always

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people that are struggling. There are always people that are

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far from struggling. They've got plenty of money. So it's

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interesting as we approach the holiday buying season. Yeah, the

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commercialization of Christmas, the fact that there are a lot

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of and I've learned this over the years. Alan green

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the statistics that he likes to follow when he was

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the FED chairman. He says, I like to see what

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people do, not what they say say. So people are

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saying to the pollsters that oh, yeah, we're going to

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be cutting back on Christmas, We're going to be cutting

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back on everything that we're doing. And I'm looking and

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I'm seeing the crowds that are traveling, record level travelers

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this Thanksgiving week. So if you don't have any money,

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it's stay home. But apparently there's a lot of people

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who have enough money to go travel. And well, I've

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got a clip for you too from the National Retail

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Federation talking about how they from polling thought that retail

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sales were going to be done. It's too early, but

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they said they're off to a gang bangers start. I mean,

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it's just fabulous the amount that people now are they

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putting it on their credit cards. We'll find out as

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we go along. But here's the President who referred to

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the whole busines. It's about affordability. This was from last night.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're also making incredible strides to make America

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affordable again. Walmart announced that the course of their standard

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Thanksgiving meal is twenty five percent lower than just one

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year ago. That's a big deal. According to the USCA,

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the price of Thanksgiving turkey is down thirty three percent

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from its Biden era highs. Potatoes are down thirteen percent,

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hamm is down fifteen percent compared to last Thanksgiving. So

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we are down to a level that we haven't seen

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in a long time.

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Speaker 1: I know the President's really fixated on that Walmart turkey price.

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The problem with that story is that in their basket

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of things that you could buy for your Thanksgiving dinner,

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it's down twenty five percent from last year. But the

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problem is is there's also fewer items in the basket

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of goods that they put in. But there, let's give

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the President to do that. Maybe turkey prices are down

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and potato prices are down. We still have inflation. It's

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not rampant inflation, but it's still inflation. And this is

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where the problem lies is that during the run up

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of inflation, prices went way up and some have come

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down a little, but most have not. So even though

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inflation is only at three percent, it still means prices

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are higher than they were a year ago and the

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year before that, and the year before that. Charlie Hurt

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weighed on this whole business about inflation and affordability.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think that it's vitally important, and I think

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it's also important that they continue on their efforts to

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bring those prices down. As you know, there's obviously a

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lot of stuff going on, especially around the world right now,

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but I think the Trump administration wants to actually stop

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talking about Ukraine, stopped talking about anything else except affordability,

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because they recognize that that's what's most important to people. Look,

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you know, it's a tough order to climb out of

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the kind of inflation that Americans went through the previous

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four years. You know, you were looking at seven and

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nine percent inflation in some years under the Biden administration.

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the Trump administration has done a lot to kind of

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stop the bleeding, but the problem is that that stopping

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the bleeding doesn't fix the problem.

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Speaker 4: You still have that inflation that.

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Speaker 3: Piled up, and you've got to get somehow get growth,

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to get wages to sort of catch up with it. So,

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you know, the Trump administration is dealing with situations where

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they've done all this everything that they can to try

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to bring to bring this prices down and to stop

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the inflation. But you but people still, you know, there's

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a lag there, and so obviously there's more work to

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be done. Probably the most important thing that they have

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focused on, of course's energy prices, and when we talk

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about it, drop in Turkey prices for example. You know,

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for farmers, you know, seventy eighty ninety percent of their

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costs is always going to be fuel. So bringing fuel

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prices down is probably one of the most important things

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that they have done and probably will continue to try

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to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who knew that turkey prices would be politicized, But

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I've seen some people on the left say prices are

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up forty percent President and Walmart prices are down twenty

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five percent. So take whichever side you want to believe.

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Kevin Hassett, who, by the way, the rumor is that

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he's going to be the next bed chair. This is

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his response.

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Speaker 5: The prices for those goods weren't necessarily going up just

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because of tariffs, and so so they might says will

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go down. Well, the prices will go down, of course,

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but because the tariffs have been taken off right well,

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and because the supply of the goods into the US

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is going to increase.

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Speaker 1: So he was being challenged there about, well, the prices

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are going down because the tariffs. You you've backed off

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a lot of tariffs on food. That's true, they have.

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They have took taken a look and said, oh, we

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better reduce these tariffs on food items from coffee to

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you name it, go down the list. But he said, no, no,

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it's because of increase in supply. Why is there an

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increase in supply. This is one of the problems with

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tariffs is that they hamper supply chain. So if you

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take the tariffs off, the supply chain opens up again

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and prices start to lower. Well, what about this National

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Retail Federation. They keep a very close eye on what's

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going on with sales during the holidays, and here is

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Matthew Say, the head of the National Retail Federation.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a sign of consumer confidence. And I

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say that knowing that the next question is going to

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be from your Andrew. How can that possibly be when

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we see what the confidence numbers look like. And I

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think what we know from history, especially in the last

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five years since the pandemic, is the consumers are really

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able to do two things at once. They can have

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very low attitudes about the economy, and yet their actions

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continue to demonstrate that they're engaged in commerce. And especially

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I think when it comes to the holiday season, all

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of our survey work and all of the data that

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we produced in our forecasts indicates that consumers worked very

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very hard to protect themselves and their families for the holidays.

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this time of year so they can make those kinds

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of investments. And the ways in which they're doing that,

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of course, is they're looking for value. They're trying to

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find convenience, and they're reducing savings in some cases, they're

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taking on more debt, but they really want to protect

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holiday spend and I think that's really what we're seeing.

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last couple of months, the trend line has been on

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goods inflation down almost flat, and even food with a

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few category exceptions, has been about one percent. So I

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think there's real growth in there and we're seeing asumers

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really behave positively, hence the record number for the forecast

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and also for this Thanksgiving weekend. The chart you've got

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up there now is a survey of consumers asking them

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their attitudes from about six weeks ago, and our forecast

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of the four point two percent growth three point seven

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to four point two which is a trillion dollars, is

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our economic forecast, which we've done for twenty years. You

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all have reported on at leastman has reported on it

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many many times last year. That produced four point three

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percent growth this year. That's our forecast as opposed to

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what consumers tell us, and we know frequently again to

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the comment a minute ago, they tell us one thing,

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but they do something else. So they may say they're

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going to spend slightly less this year, but when they

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get out on these big weekends like Black Friday and

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Cyber Monday, Super Saturday, the big Saturday before the Christmas holiday.

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They tend to spend more than they told us they

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were going to spend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not unusual. That happens. Usually every year people

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spend more more than they think they're going to and

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then they've got problems. As far as the overall economy

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got best, Still very optimistic about twenty twenty six. But

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he was asked about Mam Donnie and the fact that

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Mam Donnie one based upon focusing on affordability.

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Speaker 7: You've got to have some admiration for a candidate who

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ran a campaign the way he did it is a great,

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great campaign. He is clearly the leader of the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 1: Now he's part of the new speaking line about Mam

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Donnie is the head of the Democrat Party. Well, Kevin Whaling,

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who's a Democrat strategist, is trying to avoid that.

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Speaker 8: Well, listen, Republicans are certainly going to try to tie

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the mayor elects to a lot of races up and

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down the ballot and all kinds of different jurisdictions. I

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wrote an op ed back in July for Fox Digital

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right after Ron won the primary, saying that the actual

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leaders of my party are Mikey Cheryl in New Jersey

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and Abigail Spanberger in Virginia. That was in July, way

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before their massive double digit election victories in Virginia and

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New Jersey this past November. So I am still with

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those two women. That is the future of my party.

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And uh and we'll see if zoon Mond Dominie runs

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with Donald Trump on a third time around ticket.

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Speaker 4: Has Some people have mentioned.

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Speaker 1: He spoofing a little bit there about all of that,

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but James Carvel also is trying to do everything he can.

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Watch the Democrats. They're going to say, Maam, Donnie Has

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is nowhere near the leader of the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 9: L one represents the party. The only person that can

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represent the party is a presidential nominee who will be

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chosen by the party members who vote in the primary.

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Congressional parties don't have generally don't have a defining person

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and Desert people said, what is no leader the part? No,

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they won't be, but Desk for Democrats are going to decide.

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Speaker 1: And that's going to be very interesting to see is

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the Democrats line up to see who wants to be

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the nominee, the guy that I hear a lot of

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the lead, but that he's way too early and he's

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not going to peak at the right time. This is

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twenty twenty five. The election isn't until twenty twenty eight,

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so we'll see what he does. But that apparently Newsom

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is if you pull it right now that people say,

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well he is the leader. Well, Jeff Bush was supposed

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to be the leader too at one point for the Republicans.

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That's way, way, way too early to figure that out.

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Speaker 10: I think James Carvill is expressing the very same trepidation

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that I heard just now over the prospect of Zori

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Mondani becoming the face of the Democra Party. I see

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the Republicans attempting to engineer that, and it makes sense.

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Zori Mundani's popular sort of in the city. He managed

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to eke out a majority of the vote in New

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York City, but his brand of politics is not necessarily

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supported in the suburbs. James Carvill wrote an outbed for

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The New York Times in which he appeared to declare

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surrender of the moderates. However, he in that piece he

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described how all the energy and the passion and the

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enthusiasm was on the young left, socialist left, in my

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view of bigoted left, which approaches the issue of Israel

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with monomaniacal zeal And that is rising within the party,

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and James Carvill essentially advocated they should get out of

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the way, so they should bank on the votes of

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the suburbs, really affluent, pretty well educated moderates, and they

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should appeal to the radicals, which is an abdication of

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what James Carvill has advocated his whole career. That tells

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you something, that tells you where the passion is and

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how much enthusiasm the so called establishmentarians and the Democratic

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Party have for stopping it. I'm trepidacious about the rise

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of this sort of politics. I don't think it'll be

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good for the country, but Republicans are making a pretty

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savvy bet by attempting to elevate him as the face

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of the new Democratic Party.

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Speaker 1: It also, like you told you, maybe a mistake to

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even count Gavenusmith the leader, because he was in the

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in the lead of the polls as of last week.

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But way, way, way too early. But then then Harry

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Entton goes out and does a poll, and because Eric

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and the people there in southern California, they were all

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cheering for him. Well, apparently it's bigger than that. Here's

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Harry talking about Swalwell's chances. I know it's way early,

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but here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 11: And the prediction markets think he has a pretty decent

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chance of pulling it off.

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Speaker 4: I mean, take a look here.

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Speaker 11: Chance to be the next governor of California, according to

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the Calshe prediction markets.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna spell Calshe right like this, And what do

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we see.

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Speaker 11: We see that he's at a forty five percent chance

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to infect be the next governor California.

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Speaker 4: You take a look in October seventh, he wasn't even

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in the race. It was Na Tom Fire, Na Katie Porter.

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Let it forty percent.

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Speaker 11: She's all the way down out a twelve percent chance

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to be the next governor of California.

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Speaker 4: Her chances have absolutely slip slide down.

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Speaker 11: And now the two front runners are, in fact Dirk

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Swalwell and of course Tom Stared of the billionaire forty

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five percent and a twenty four percent chance of taking

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the be the next governor California.

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Speaker 4: According to the CALSI prediction.

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Speaker 1: Ad been Katie Porter was in the lead. What happened

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to the big lead that she had? She's now at

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just twelve percent.

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Speaker 11: Well, Google searches for Katie Quorter in California up ten

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thousand percent on October ninth. The interview is the top

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top search topic associated with her name. Of course, if

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you may recall this, there was not one, but two

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interviews in which Katie Porter was not very nice, once

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to a staff member, once to a local television reporter,

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and a lot of folks reacted poorly that interview. It

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generated a lot of press for her, and it turns

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out not all press is good press.

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Speaker 1: But Eric Swalwell has gone after President Trumps as often

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as he possibly can. He's a thorn in his side.

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So how does that impact Eric Swalwell's chances to be governor?

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Speaker 4: Why might it be an impact?

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Speaker 11: Well, I mean, look, you want you want Donald Trump

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to go after I mean California to disapprove of Donald Trump.

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All voters sixty six percent, Democrats ninety three percent. So

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Donald Trump going after you, that is a good thing.

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In California. Eric Swaall definitely welcomes those attacks against ittle.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So Donald Trump talking badly about Eric Swalwell in

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California actually gives Eric Swalwell some brownie points? Are you?

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For those of you in California, you're going to talk

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about this at your Thanksgiving dinner tomorrow?

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Speaker 4: They don't want to talk about politics.

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Speaker 11: I mean, look at that seventy one percent say avoid

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talking politics with your family.

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Speaker 4: Talk it with us.

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Speaker 1: Though, So on this Thanksgiving and Eve, let's let's get

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into manners and and what to do with the turkey. Yeah,

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it's well, right down to the nub here. I think

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it's somewhat funny, but it's actually true. Sean Duppy, the

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Secretary of Transportation is lecturing Americans. Not lecturing, He's He's

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trying to gently say, look, would you would you act

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nicer when you're on an airplane, when you're at an airport.

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Here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 3: Your shoes off and put your feet on the you know,

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the chair had to that's just or maybe don't play

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your movie without headphones on to some simple things that

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can annoy the folks around you.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I mean, we don't have to do that.

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Speaker 1: What you shouldn't take your shoes off and put your

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feet on the seat ahead of you, and and you

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should probably put in some something to keep the playing

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your movie so that everybody around you doesn't hear it.

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I mean, these are common sense things. But sadly, yeah,

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you know, that's the kind of behavior you do see

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from some very uncouth people that travel out there. Speaking

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of traveling, phil Abo, who travels, follows the travel industry,

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talking about the air plane industry and the infrastructure at

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the airport.

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Speaker 12: And the good news is that the airports should be

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relatively calm, and when you look at the numbers who

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are flying, we've seen a rebound from where we were

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just a week and a half ago when you had

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the government shut down, you had a much lower schedule,

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number of scheduled number of flights thirty one million passengers

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for the Thanksgiving travel rush.

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Speaker 4: That's up about one percent compared to last year.

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Speaker 12: Sunday is expected to be the busiest day, though you

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can make an argument yesterday was the second busiest day,

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or could rivals Sunday in terms of the number of

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people flying take a look at the FAA numbers of flights.

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Technically there were more flights yesterday than what are scheduled

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on some but in terms of the number of people,

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the expectation is that Sunday is likely to be the busiest.

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By the way, forty five thousand more seats in the

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air per day compared to last year. American Airlines, Delta,

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Southwest United. Take a look at all of these stocks

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going back to when the government shutdown happened, because I've

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had a number of people say to me, well, did

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they all snap back? Not exactly a snapback, but certainly

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an improvement compared to where they were. It also helps

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that we haven't seen any of the major airlines changed

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their guidance for the fourth quarter due to the impact

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of the travel or of the government shutdown. Also take

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a look at Alaska, Jet Blue, and Frontier. Similar story,

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though these are three companies that are more challenged than

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what you see with the four largest airlines. Bottom line

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is this, if we get relatively good weather, and there's

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a weather system moving through Chicago right now, but if

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we get well at relatively decent weather across the country,

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it should be not only smooth but also a profitable

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Thanksgiving travel week for the airlines. But the bottom line

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is this our aircraft, our airline and airport infrastructure in

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this country.

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Speaker 4: It needs to be upgraded. Secretary Duffy has talked about this.

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Speaker 12: This is not a partisan thing, this is not a

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all well, the Republicans are just trying to get some

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money for these projects here. Our system is antiquated. There's

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no way around that. And until we as a country

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make a decision, we will spend the billions that are needed.

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And they've already got twelve billion allocated, need about another

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twenty billion. But until this country decides we truly want

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to see a more advanced system, it's going to be

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a case where you have this we bump up against

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what might be the limit in terms of the nation's

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air system. Air traffic control airports is a big deal.

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We don't hear enough about it, but it's a huge deal.

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These are landlocked areas and you always hear people say, well,

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why can't they take more flights? The issue is in

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taking more flights, it's where do you park the aircraft?

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Do you have enough gates? Can you add gates? That's

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the reason why you look at an airport like Denver International.

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And I know people complain it's way far away from

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the city of Denver, but they can add, they can

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add more gates, which is why it has grown and

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continues to grow.

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Speaker 4: That's the advantage of building a new airport.

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Speaker 1: All right. So let's assume that the airlines do their

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part and the customers keep their shoes on and don't

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play the movies without some headset on. What about the

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rest of it? About when you get to your destination,

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when you get with your family, even cousin Eddie, what

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are you going to do about manage? So I thought, well,

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this is a perfect time to call up a lady

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who is basically that's what she does for a living.

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She tells people about how to behave what manners should be.

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Her name is Elaine Swan, and these are I've just

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some clips from some of the advice that she gave earlier. Today.

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Speaker 4: Is rude.

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Speaker 13: When someone is rude, I say, call them out. Don't

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let people get away with the Polite does not equal pushover.

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So when someone is rude, say to them, you know what,

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that wasn't nice, that that was really hurtful. And I

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tell you that'll be the one thing that'll just pull

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them all the way together and let them know that

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what they said hurt you. I think this is the

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thing that we have to do, is call people out

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instead of being bulldozed over during the holiday season.

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Speaker 4: Naming any names here.

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Speaker 14: Who says something to you like, oh, I see you've

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gained a little weight, Yes, I don't know you've never

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done that. That crazy, Or they say something like I

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can't believe you voted for that fool.

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Speaker 4: When you start something and they start, what do you do? Yeah?

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Speaker 13: So this is where I think it's really important, especially

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this with the climate that we're having right now, it

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is important. People think don't talk politics, but I believe

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it's absolutely acceptable to talk about your beliefs to help

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people to understand why what's important to you. But we

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cannot punch down at people. That's the thing that we

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don't want to do. So when the person says I

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can't believe you voted for that person, you can say, well,

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tell me why did you vote? What was important to you?

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Put them on the spot and help them explain what

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it is. And if it's a bunch of nonsense, just

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do it a mile and nod and.

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Speaker 4: Say thank you for sharing. The host will say, don't

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bring anything, just just bring yourself. You seem skeptical. I

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can tell you, well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 13: The host does not want you to infringe on their meals,

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So do not bring anything meal related.

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Speaker 4: Uhha.

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Speaker 13: But what you do is you bring something host related.

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You know, of course, you know, you have the bottle

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of wine and what have you. But there's so many

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wonderful things that you can get for a host, everything

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from really cute kitchen towels to some sort of fun gadget,

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to a wine opener or a set of wineglasses, things

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like that. But when they say don't bring anything, they

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really mean I've got the meal plan.

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Speaker 4: Stay in your lane when.

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Speaker 14: The dinner or lunch or whatever you're eating is over,

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and they're like, don't worry about this, go go, go, go,

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enjoy the football game, enjoy this, don't worry about the cleanup.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but there are dishes. This but their dishes power.

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Speaker 13: That means the host has staked their territory and they

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do not want you there. Really, yes, absolutely, yes, absolutely,

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and this is the thing we eat and we feel

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like we have to give something back. But you have

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to keep in mind that a host, this is what

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they do, this is what they love and to them

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to see their guests being comfortable in their home and

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enjoying themselves that is more meaningful to any host than

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to see their guests being put to work.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: There's some manners just bring stay out of the kitchen

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and don't bring something for the meal unless you're specifically asked,

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and I say thank you. There's another guy who I love.

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Speaker 4: This guy.

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Speaker 1: His name's Arthur Brooks. He's done a lot of different things.

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He probably his most prominent job, he's a Harvard professor.

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But he is just the most common sense guy I

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think I've ever followed or read. His names Arthur Brooks.

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And he talks about this whole thing when we get

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together with family and friends at Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 15: And the truth of the matter is there's a lot

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written about this, there's a lot of research on this.

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Behavioral scientists have talked about not how to disagree less,

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but actually how to disagree better, and a couple of

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things to keep in mind. For a lot of people

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were going to their extended family. For example, there's Aunt

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Marge is going to be there. You don't see her,

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but once a year, and she's going to insist on

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talking about the federal government or something. And there's a

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couple of two don'ts that are actually just as important

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as the two dos. A couple of things to think about.

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The first is to remember that when you have a

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disagreement about something with somebody, you rarely see a contentious

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topic like politics. That's actually not you're not going to

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convince anybody. But what we want to do is persuade

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when we're arguing, and we almost never persuade anybody. When

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somebody is shut down when you're arguing with them, that

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they have something a psychologists called a boomerang effect and

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actual actually believe their ideological viewpoint more strongly than when

503
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you started arguing with them. So that's the first thing

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to kind of kind of game out a little bit

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and to be thinking about. And the second thing to

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keep in mind is that every time you talk about politics,

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this is almost always the case, not just that thanksgiving

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you get less happy. There's a lot of research that

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shows that the more you think can talk about politics,

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the less happier you're going to be, and that makes

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you less grateful is kind of the counteracting mechanism to

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the whole point of Thanksgiving. So don't go in ready

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for a fight and don't actually get into politics.

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Speaker 4: Those are the two.

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Speaker 15: Don'ts actually so well, you can make it explicit if

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you want, But you know what, I recommend to people

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who are sort of the odd man out. I'm the

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I'm kind of the odd man out in many ways

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in my family discussions. I mean, all my kids are

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ideologically different than me and their spouses. As a matter

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of fact, Mike stended family they're more conservative than I am.

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And that doesn't mean that we can't talk about these things,

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but it means that we have to not get into

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a big argument about it. And that requires kind of

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a skill on my part of leading the conversation into

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something that's more pleasant that we all think about as

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a source of gratitude as opposed to a source of

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conflict in the family. Now we can talk about those

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things we've known these differences exist the whole time.

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Speaker 4: But life is short, man.

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Speaker 15: Why would you want to talk about politics when you're

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around the Thanksgiving tape?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: Well, one of the things to actually be thinking about

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is to introduce a topic of your own gratitude, which

536
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is really important and say, you know, I got something

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I'm going to say that I'm really really grateful for,

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and it'll be a memory. It'll be a shared idea

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that you all have together. And especially when you're talking

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with extended family, when you have memories of something, when

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you reconstruct a memory of something that that you all share,

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that's something that people are really quite interested in as

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a matter of fact. So shared values are a lot

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better than unshared ideological viewpoints.

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Speaker 2: So let's see.

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Speaker 1: Don't take your shoes off and put them up on

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the state of the people in front of you on

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a plane. Oh yeah, put headsets on when you're watching

549
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a movie on a flight, and when you go over

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to wherever you're going for Thanksgiving or maybe the people

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coming to your place. Yeah, try not to get into

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an argument. Bring up things of shared values. Remember Uncle

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Harry the back back when we went fishing at whatever

554
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it might be. So everybody's it's always interesting, isn't it

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that we have this tradition. One more tradition the butterball lady,

556
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And I'll just play clips from what I heard from

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her earlier today about how to do the turkey, so

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you look like you know what you're doing.

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Speaker 16: We are expecting a lot of calls this year. You

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can reach us via email, chat, tech, social media. We

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open this morning at seven am Central and we're taking

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all of your phone calls through nine this evening, and

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00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:58,920
of course we're open on Thanksgiving Day six am to

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six pm Central.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 16: Number one question over forty four years if the talk

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line has been open is how do I found my turkey?

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If you haven't used a refrigeration method, have no fear.

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You can still use the cold water bath method, lead

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the wrapperund put it in the sink. It's a half

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hour per pound using that method. Well, I have four

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little butterballs at home myself, and we tend to purchase

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a turkey that's a pound and a half to two

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pounds per person. We love the leftovers. You can hop

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on the butterball dot com website. There's a lot of

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fun ways to incorporate the leftovers. Another common question we

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get is how long can I keep the leftovers for?

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You can put your leftovers in the zip block bag

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or container in the refrigerator for up to three days.

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For longer storage, you can put your leftovers in the

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freezer for up to three months. Well, let me address

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I can the stuffing suggesting first. When we're asked if

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you can stuff your turkey, it's really a personal preference.

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My mom our family tradition was always to stuff the turkey.

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Absolutely safe and acceptable to do that from a food

586
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:08,960
safety perspective, you do want to make sure that you

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do not stuff the turkey the night before. All of

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your wet and dry ingredients would be combined the day of,

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and you stuff that turkey right before you put it

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in job. I've had butterball turkey experts tell us in

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the past if you do stuff it inside, yes, that

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is a good recommendation. It's usually three quarter cup, maybe

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even one cup of turkey per pound of turkey. I've

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been on the talk line for over twenty years and

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I do get that phone call quite often just stuff

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or not just stuff, but really the key, Becky. Regardless

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if you stuff your turkey or not, you do want

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to make sure turkey is done with your best friend

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on Thanksgiving Day. That's your meat thermometer. It's going to

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register one seventy in the breast and thigh for best

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eating quality. And if you stuff your turkey in the

602
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center of the stuffing, that thermometer goes and it's going

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to register are one sixty five for best eating quality.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we helped you have manners on the plane.

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We helped you have manners wherever you're going for Thanksgiving

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or if people are coming over to your place. We've

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helped you with how how to cook the bird. So

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we wish you and we are very thankful and grateful

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for all of you in this audience. It's it's always

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surprises me how many of you have tuned in for

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this podcast. And I feel very blessed on this Thanksgiving Eve.

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So with that, we let's see how blessed we were

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on Wall Street today. Light volume, people bailing out, but

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the now nice and positive again, up three hundred and

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fourteen points to forty seven four twenty seven, the S

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and P up forty six, Nasdaq up one hundred and

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eighty nine, the price of gold up fifty six dollars

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to four four thousand and one ninety six, and oil

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was up sixty cents fifty eight dollars in some change

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for a barrel of oil. Thank you, thank you, thank you,

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thank you for coming by. And I mean that with

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the thanks from the bottom of my heart. Have a

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wonderful Thanksgiving, and I think we're going to have a

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best of tomorrow. We'll be back on Friday. Have a

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great Thanksgiving.

