Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program. Today,
Speaker 1: we're gonna jump right back into the headlines from overnight
Speaker 1: and see where things currently stand as of this morning,
Speaker 1: and once again to do that, we'll be using the
Speaker 1: Independent headline Idaho murders brighton awkward suspect Brian Coohberger eager
Speaker 1: to be exonerated. Lawyer says. This article was authored by
Speaker 1: Andrea Blanco and Rachel Sharp and in the episode earlier
Speaker 1: this morning talking about the exoneration, we heard from Brian
Speaker 1: Cohberger's lawyer and how he says that mister Coberger feels
Speaker 1: like he's going to be exonerated here and he can't
Speaker 1: wait to get back to Idaho to begin that process.
Speaker 1: Sure sounds to me that this is a man who
Speaker 1: plans on playing some games. We know that he is
Speaker 1: a criminology student, a PhD, so certainly someone who is
Speaker 1: well versed in how these trials go. And honestly, I
Speaker 1: can't shake the Ted Bundy vibe from this dude. The
Speaker 1: same kind of psyche it would seem like to me
Speaker 1: another college educated guy. You know, Ted Bundy was in
Speaker 1: the legal world as well, paralegal, going to school to
Speaker 1: be a lawyer, and then you look at Coburger over here,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of similarities, at least in my opinion,
Speaker 1: maybe not with the murders or the scope of the
Speaker 1: murders that were committed by Bundy, but a lot of
Speaker 1: similarities here. And I'm very, very interested to hear what
Speaker 1: this dude has to say when the interrogators get to
Speaker 1: him and start talking to him, because I wonder if
Speaker 1: he's going to take credit for it eventually and want
Speaker 1: that kind of notoriety that these kinds of killers seem
Speaker 1: too lust after. Now. I don't know if Coburger is
Speaker 1: going to be one of those kinds of guys, but
Speaker 1: we've seen it plenty of times, and as far as
Speaker 1: this being the first time he's ever killed, I have
Speaker 1: a hard time believing that, folks. Obviously, I have nothing
Speaker 1: to base that on. That's purely speculation on my part.
Speaker 1: But to walk into a house and murder four people
Speaker 1: like this being your first time committing murder, that has
Speaker 1: to be a pretty rare occurrence, because you would think
Speaker 1: that you'd have to be comfortable with the fact of
Speaker 1: murdering somebody before you work your way up to murdering
Speaker 1: four people. In such a grizzly and gruesome manner. Now,
Speaker 1: is it impossible that this was the first time that
Speaker 1: this dude ever killed. Of course it's not. But I
Speaker 1: have a funny feeling that as this goes on and
Speaker 1: we hear more, we might get some other stories here
Speaker 1: about this dude being involved in some kind of other murder,
Speaker 1: because people like this who kill four people don't just
Speaker 1: usually start overnight. It's a progression, right. A lot of
Speaker 1: these sick bastards start by hurting animals and then that
Speaker 1: becomes hurting people, and then you have the results that
Speaker 1: we see in Moscow. Now, again that's just speculation. I
Speaker 1: don't know if this dude hurt anyone previously, or if
Speaker 1: he had a propensity to hurt animals. We're just talking
Speaker 1: about basic profiles that most of these scumbags fit into.
Speaker 1: So we'll have to see when we get more information
Speaker 1: from the investigators about this guy's background, about who he is,
Speaker 1: about what he was up to, because you know, they're
Speaker 1: scouring into his past right now, going through everything with
Speaker 1: a fine tooth comb, all of his movements, where he
Speaker 1: was at, trying to build a gigantic timeline of this
Speaker 1: dude's life and his behavior, and if they're doing that,
Speaker 1: who knows what else they're going to find in the
Speaker 1: dark recesses of this man's life. So all of that's
Speaker 1: going to be really interesting as this moves on and
Speaker 1: we get more information about what this dude was up
Speaker 1: to and who he was before we heard about him
Speaker 1: in this capacity. How police finally made an arrest in
Speaker 1: the Idaho murders. For nearly seven weeks, police gave little
Speaker 1: information on what they knew about the murders of Ethan Shapin,
Speaker 1: Madison Mogan, Xanikernodle, and Kaylee Gonsalvez, writes low Dodds. Now,
Speaker 1: a twenty eight year old criminology graduate student named Brian
Speaker 1: Christopher Coberger has been arrested in Pennsylvania in connection with
Speaker 1: the case, offering the hope of major progress in a
Speaker 1: case that some observers feared was going cold. And I
Speaker 1: never thought that this was cold. We talked about that
Speaker 1: there was way too many tips coming in, still way
Speaker 1: too much information, just way too much in general to
Speaker 1: even think about this being a cold case. Yet, however,
Speaker 1: it was getting concerning that nobody was in the crosshairs.
Speaker 1: Usually when you have this kind of national attention, this
Speaker 1: kind of national spotlight. There's somebody who is behind the
Speaker 1: scenes who is a suspect, and it looks like that
Speaker 1: was the case here, but they were able to keep
Speaker 1: it close to the vest and not let the public
Speaker 1: know that they were onto somebody. Remember, they tracked this
Speaker 1: dude all the way across country, and we're going to
Speaker 1: do another episode later on where we're talking about that
Speaker 1: a little bit and a little bit more into the
Speaker 1: investigation as to how they tracked him down. Pretty interesting stuff,
Speaker 1: especially with some of the leaks coming out from people
Speaker 1: close to the investigation about how Coburger was driving around,
Speaker 1: going to stores with gloves on and trying to hide
Speaker 1: his tracks. So this is a guy who certainly was
Speaker 1: taking all of the steps at least he thought to
Speaker 1: not get caught. But with all of the tips coming in,
Speaker 1: with all of the heavy tips coming in, it was
Speaker 1: only a matter of time. And remember what we said
Speaker 1: in the very beginning, Inevitably it's going to be a
Speaker 1: tip from the public that leads to pay dirt. It
Speaker 1: always is. There's somebody out there who knows them. They
Speaker 1: saw the car. They called it a tip on the car.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, it's going to be a tip from
Speaker 1: the people in the community that leads to pay dirt,
Speaker 1: and more times than not in these sorts of cases,
Speaker 1: that is the end result. Idaho murder suspect carried out
Speaker 1: study asking criminals how they chose victims. And we talked
Speaker 1: about this yesterday before anyone was really talking about it,
Speaker 1: and I had stumbled on that Reddit post and it
Speaker 1: blew me away. Honestly, when you look at it in
Speaker 1: hindsight and you know what this dude is capable of,
Speaker 1: and to see that kind of survey and to see
Speaker 1: what he was involved in, it's pretty chilling stuff. A
Speaker 1: man arrested in connection with the murder of four university
Speaker 1: students in Idaho conducted a study asking criminals how they
Speaker 1: selected their targets and how they felt as they committed
Speaker 1: the crimes. As police records revealed that criminology student Brian
Speaker 1: Koberger had been arrested in Scranton, Pennsylvania, in connection with
Speaker 1: the November stabbing deaths of the students, it emerged just
Speaker 1: six months ago he had sought input from former criminals
Speaker 1: to understand their decision making process. So this is a
Speaker 1: guy who took the coursework a bit too serious, right,
Speaker 1: This is a man who, for whatever reason, had these
Speaker 1: urgentes to murder, had these urgentes to kill, and he
Speaker 1: truly thought that his background, his academic background, was gonna
Speaker 1: be enough for him to get away with this. He
Speaker 1: thought he was committing the perfect murders. I am convinced
Speaker 1: of that at this point. And what better cover for
Speaker 1: asking questions like this than being a criminology student. You
Speaker 1: can go under the guise of, hey, look, this was
Speaker 1: a school project, what do you mean? And this is
Speaker 1: somebody again who is going to play games with the prosecutors.
Speaker 1: I have no doubt about it. He's not going to
Speaker 1: be compliant. He's not going to give them what they need.
Speaker 1: And you already have posts from people like his sister
Speaker 1: coming out talking about how innocent he is and this
Speaker 1: that the other thing, how they just wanted to make
Speaker 1: an arrest because they were being pressured. And it's a
Speaker 1: legitimate defense from the accused because there's nothing else to
Speaker 1: really go on. If they have all of the evidence
Speaker 1: that they say they have, this guy is cooked. So
Speaker 1: they're going to try and come out and say, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like a West Memphis type of deal where they
Speaker 1: just made an arrest because the small town police department
Speaker 1: was being pressed. And I don't believe that for a
Speaker 1: second when you hear about all of the evidence that's
Speaker 1: coming out against this dude, at least behind the scenes
Speaker 1: that we're hearing about. If they have all of that
Speaker 1: evidence when they present it when he's brought back to Idaho,
Speaker 1: my man is cooked. Idaho police appear to rule out
Speaker 1: other suspects in college killings. Idaho police have ruled out
Speaker 1: any other suspect in the killings of four university students
Speaker 1: as they address the arrest of suspect Brian Kohberger for
Speaker 1: the first time. Authorities captured the twenty eight year old
Speaker 1: PhD student at a property in Albrightsville, Pennsylvania, in the
Speaker 1: early morning hours of Friday, and he now faces extradition
Speaker 1: to Idaho to face four murder charges. We have an
Speaker 1: individual in custody who committed these horrible crimes, and I
Speaker 1: do believe our community is safe, but we still need
Speaker 1: to be vigilant, said Moscow Police Chief James Fry. And
Speaker 1: there was a lot of talk when this was all
Speaker 1: going down if there was more than one perpetrator here,
Speaker 1: and we weren't sure, so I continued to say suspect
Speaker 1: or suspects until we had official word from the investigators.
Speaker 1: There was just too much on the table for us
Speaker 1: to make that leap. And whenever you have four people
Speaker 1: murdered like this, it wouldn't be too much of a
Speaker 1: lap right to think multiple assailants might have been involved.
Speaker 1: But it turns out, at least according to Chief Fry
Speaker 1: and the investigators, that they say that Brian Koberger did
Speaker 1: this all on his own. The Idaho murder victims' parents
Speaker 1: deserve space to grieve. Everybody loves an unsolved murder mystery,
Speaker 1: except one that is real life, Andrew Buncombe writes for
Speaker 1: The Independent. And plenty of people love pondering over clues
Speaker 1: and conspiracies and potential theories for such a mystery, but
Speaker 1: not when four young people have been murdered in their
Speaker 1: beds and the police appear to be making no progress
Speaker 1: for more than six weeks. The plight of four young students,
Speaker 1: Kaylee Gonsabis, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin has
Speaker 1: gripped the imagination of a large chunk of America. But
Speaker 1: the reality is the parents of the victims will carry
Speaker 1: their loss for life, even after the media and web
Speaker 1: slutes fascination wears off. And I can tell you for
Speaker 1: a fact that this is the case when you look
Speaker 1: at the Jeffrey Epstein survivors. They're going to carry those
Speaker 1: scars forever. That's never gonna go away. And you're gonna
Speaker 1: see the same thing with the parents here. That stuff's
Speaker 1: never gonna go away. So while the rest of us
Speaker 1: get to tune out, or you get to put it
Speaker 1: in the back of our minds and move on to
Speaker 1: the next travesty, in the next disaster, these people are
Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with it, meaning the family and
Speaker 1: the friends of these murdered students for the rest of
Speaker 1: their lives, and they most certainly should be given the
Speaker 1: space to grieve. Let us hope that all of us,
Speaker 1: the media and the public, try to bear in mind
Speaker 1: the ongoing agonies the families will endure and grant them
Speaker 1: the space and privacy to deal with that. Andrew writes,
Speaker 1: and I think that's a good idea. These families are
Speaker 1: definitely going through it. We know they're going through it.
Speaker 1: We've heard from some of them, and now especially there's
Speaker 1: going to be a huge emotional dump. The holidays have
Speaker 1: come and gone, there's a suspect and custody, and now
Speaker 1: the grieving is truly going to start for a lot
Speaker 1: of these family members and friends. So I hope that
Speaker 1: the media, the legacy media especially, backs off a little
Speaker 1: bit and gives them that space. Now that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: not to report on the story, but don't press the parents,
Speaker 1: don't press the family members, the siblings or whatever. Don't
Speaker 1: press them for interviews. Let them work through it, and
Speaker 1: if they want to give interviews later on, then I'm
Speaker 1: sure they will. But there's no doubt that the grieving
Speaker 1: process has just begun for these families. Talk about a
Speaker 1: whirldwin of emotions going through the holidays, not having any answers,
Speaker 1: and then to have a ton of bricks drop you
Speaker 1: that finally as suspect is in custody. I can't even
Speaker 1: begin the range of emotions that these family members are
Speaker 1: going through right now. So hopefully they're given the space
Speaker 1: to come to grips with everything and try and start
Speaker 1: to put the pieces back together. All right, folks, that's
Speaker 1: gonna do it for this morning's update. If you'd like
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