Speaker 1: All right back on the big one seven hundred. Wow,
Speaker 1: the average American and for the great American. Yes, there
Speaker 1: are tens of millions of dollars being handed out at
Speaker 1: Paul Brown. Oh, I'm sorry, past sub stadium.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: The news conference with T Higgins and Jamar Chase is
Speaker 1: now at three point thirty today, three thirty today, and
Speaker 1: we will carry it live, of course on seven hundred
Speaker 1: at WLW. Meanwhile, in Washington, DC, the drama plays out
Speaker 1: in a different sense. There's a phone call today between
Speaker 1: President Donald Trump and President Vladimir Putin of Russia. And
Speaker 1: what they will talk about, I'm sure, is what Putin
Speaker 1: wants out of a deal to end the war at
Speaker 1: least bring it to some sort of halt with Ukraine
Speaker 1: and then see if that intersects with what Ukraine would
Speaker 1: be happy with, and then try and figure out a
Speaker 1: way to end it completely. Who's holding the cards in
Speaker 1: this one? Meanwhile, the Dems are in disarray what they
Speaker 1: could and win in November. They're trying to win in
Speaker 1: courtrooms all across the United States. And riddleby this one, Batman,
Speaker 1: how could a district judge determine what national policy is
Speaker 1: in the United States? You don't have many district judges
Speaker 1: are running around this country just to stop and think
Speaker 1: of every single city and suburban section of this country.
Speaker 1: And you're going to put national, if not international policy
Speaker 1: in the hands of a judge, really, I mean not
Speaker 1: like a sam Alito judge. No, no, no, no, like
Speaker 1: you know, just to you're run on the middle judge. Anyway,
Speaker 1: there's that drama playing out, and whether or not that
Speaker 1: plane that left here and went to drop off all
Speaker 1: of these illegal aliens that have committed crimes in El
Speaker 1: Salvador over the weekend, whether or not the judge had
Speaker 1: the ability to do that, and whether or not the
Speaker 1: Trump administration wanted to simply defy that. And now this
Speaker 1: from Newsweek. Nobody it seems like, likes the Democrats anymore,
Speaker 1: including Democrats. In fact, their favorability is twenty nine percent.
Speaker 1: And the new face of the Democrat Party, according to CNN,
Speaker 1: is Alexandria Ocassio Cortes. Oh my, has the board changed
Speaker 1: whenever it turns to politics and there's drama of any kind.
Speaker 1: We turned to the man who is now in charge
Speaker 1: with educating, directing, influencing the fertile minds of the most
Speaker 1: important generation, the generation that will lead this country someday,
Speaker 1: someone who understands politics inside out and can help make
Speaker 1: those who will guide our country someday at least appreciate
Speaker 1: what's going on, if not understand it, and be part
Speaker 1: of that guidance. He is our good friend from Tarland
Speaker 1: State University. He is the esteemed doctor Nathaniel Cogley, and
Speaker 1: he's standing by to join us right now on all
Speaker 1: things that are transpiring in this country. And doctor Cogli,
Speaker 1: how are you on this glorious Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Again?
Speaker 4: It's spring break and we're fiftieth day of the second
Speaker 4: Trump term. So I'm doing good.
Speaker 2: Fifty days into one hundred days.
Speaker 1: We should point out doctor Cargly was part of Trump
Speaker 1: forty five's administration and now back at Tarleton teaching. All right,
Speaker 1: I don't know where to begin, so let's begin with this.
Speaker 1: Do you think that any judge, particularly at the district level,
Speaker 1: has the right to tell a president of the United
Speaker 1: States how to conduct policy? I mean, let's just think
Speaker 1: about this for a second. I reside here in the
Speaker 1: great state of Ohio, in the southern part of Ohio.
Speaker 1: We have the Southern District of Ohio. It's got eight
Speaker 1: current judges, eight senior judges. We have the sixth Circuit
Speaker 1: that sits here in Cincinnati. They've got like sixteen active judges,
Speaker 1: handful of senior judges. So about forty judges are running
Speaker 1: around here in the greater Cincinnati area. Just imagine that
Speaker 1: number taking out all over the United States and all
Speaker 1: of the other districts and whatnot. And you're here to
Speaker 1: tell me, or somebody's here to tell me that one
Speaker 1: judge in one district can tell the president of the
Speaker 1: United States what to do. But that apparently is what
Speaker 1: happened over the weekend, is it, don.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he seemed to use it in a very
Speaker 4: kind of over the top manner. I mean, I think
Speaker 4: he told the planes that were in the air to
Speaker 4: turn around and fly the other direction. So this is
Speaker 4: what we call overreach.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: There are six hundred and seventy seven federal district judges,
Speaker 4: and the current situation gives each one of them this
Speaker 4: belief that they can do a temporary restraining order and
Speaker 4: a universal injunction on the President of the United States. Now,
Speaker 4: the constitutionality of this is very much in question. The
Speaker 4: Constitution puts the executive power in the president, and certainly
Speaker 4: not in inferior court judges. We do have a separation
Speaker 4: of branches. But the peer of the president is in
Speaker 4: the Supreme Court. So there's a question candas Supreme Court,
Speaker 4: you know, to shoot down a presidential action, but to
Speaker 4: say that the inferior courts can do it all, six
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy seven of these inferior court judges can
Speaker 4: basically asserpt the power of the president. There's a famous
Speaker 4: line in Judge Renquist dissent in Roe v.
Speaker 2: Wade.
Speaker 4: He says, the court has it smacks of judicial legislation,
Speaker 4: that the judicial branch is basically stepping on the terrain
Speaker 4: of the legislative branch. Well, this order from Judge Boseberg
Speaker 4: smacks of judicial execution. He seems to be stepping on
Speaker 4: the job of the president.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, and over above that, you know he's he's
Speaker 1: treading on. First of all, he didn't issue a written order.
Speaker 1: Second of all, it was a verbal order. And to
Speaker 1: take it even a further step further, he had no
Speaker 1: idea where that plane was. That plane enough fuel to
Speaker 1: turn around and make it back to the mainland. He
Speaker 1: had no idea. I mean, what's his next, What's his
Speaker 1: next order. Oh, when Air Force one travels out to
Speaker 1: California can't fly over South Dakota. I mean, and I
Speaker 1: think it speaks to what's going on here with regards
Speaker 1: to our country. The Democrats got got hammered in November,
Speaker 1: and now they and their sycophants and some of these
Speaker 1: activist groups are finding the right activist judges. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got judges that were appointed to the District of
Speaker 1: Columbia US district Court. I worked in Washington, d C,
Speaker 1: Doctor Cockley. As you know, Washington, d C. Is overwhelmingly Democrat.
Speaker 1: It's overwhelmingly Democrat that in that district court in Columbia.
Speaker 1: But you've got judge shopping going here. These activist groups,
Speaker 1: certainly at the behest of the Democrats, are are going
Speaker 1: to places like the district court in DC, the district
Speaker 1: court and Maryland, the district court in the western district
Speaker 1: of Washington, pick one, southern district of New York. That's
Speaker 1: where they're going. They're judge shopping for these things, are
Speaker 1: they not.
Speaker 4: Oh, of course they're going to try to pick the
Speaker 4: court that's going to be most friendly to their You
Speaker 4: know what they're trying to stop you know in nine
Speaker 4: of these universal injunctions have been from democratically appointed inferior
Speaker 4: court judges. So these are the tools of the trade
Speaker 4: that they used during Trump's first term to try to
Speaker 4: stifle his agenda. And they use the record number of
Speaker 4: these universal injunctions in his first term, and they're on
Speaker 4: pace right now too far exceed that. But the Court
Speaker 4: is operating under an assumption that all the twentieth century
Speaker 4: precedents on this are going to hold. But in fact
Speaker 4: we see a Supreme Court that's very willing to throw
Speaker 4: out precedents from the twentieth century that it feels are
Speaker 4: unconstitutional and unlawful. They've actually been bold in doing so
Speaker 4: in some high profile cases. So the fact that this
Speaker 4: judge really overreached by, as you say, telling the plane
Speaker 4: to turn around.
Speaker 6: He doesn't know how much fuel is in it.
Speaker 4: He doesn't you know, he has no authority to tell
Speaker 4: the plane what to do. No one put him in
Speaker 4: a position over the Department of Homeland Security to tell
Speaker 4: them what direction their planes should fly. I think there's
Speaker 4: a highlightlihood that the Supreme Court will try to strike
Speaker 4: down or minimize the ability to these inferior court judges
Speaker 4: to assert the power of the executive branch because they're
Speaker 4: not operating based on a you know, continuing president out
Speaker 4: of the twentieth century.
Speaker 6: When they determine that it's unlawful.
Speaker 1: I think and you may feel differently, but it's my
Speaker 1: belief that I think Trump has been itching for this
Speaker 1: and that when this guy Bozeman decided to do what
Speaker 1: he did on Saturday night and tell his plane to
Speaker 1: turn around, I think Trump said, Okay, this is it.
Speaker 1: This is this is where we're going. This is the
Speaker 1: hill we're going to die on on this. He's had
Speaker 1: a lot of legal jeopardy himself on a personal level,
Speaker 1: and now this, I think that's what he wants. He
Speaker 1: wants to get this to the Supreme Court, and I
Speaker 1: think he feels pretty un confident that when it gets there,
Speaker 1: it'll slap down these guys to exactly what they ought
Speaker 1: to be doing, and that's writing over legal cases in
Speaker 1: their various districts and fiefdoms as opposed to trying to
Speaker 1: play god and president of the United States. President Trump
Speaker 1: wants this. I think he wants this to go to
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think he's well prepared for this fight. And they're
Speaker 4: well prepared to take it to the Supreme Court. You know,
Speaker 4: the first term they were told, oh, you can't do
Speaker 4: this and you can't do that. Now he's learning that
Speaker 4: he shouldn't really take that advice. He should go ahead
Speaker 4: and try to you know, execute to the best of
Speaker 4: his abilities. And you're not going to find out, you know,
Speaker 4: the extent to the president's power unless you test some
Speaker 4: of these cases. The Supreme Court doesn't deal in hypotheticals.
Speaker 4: So if you want to make an argument that the
Speaker 4: constitutional power rests in the president for something, you need
Speaker 4: to exercise that and give the Supreme Court a chance
Speaker 4: to review a real case with real standing.
Speaker 2: Okay, Moore.
Speaker 1: Drama today, Apparently in Washington, DC, the President is making
Speaker 1: a phone call to his counterpart in Russia, Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 1: President Trump is trying to end this war. Selenski came
Speaker 1: to this country a couple of weeks ago and you know,
Speaker 1: basically blew it. I mean, I haven't seen anything like
Speaker 1: that in my life.
Speaker 2: And so he was.
Speaker 1: Sentail between his legs to the EU, and the EU
Speaker 1: basically said, well, we can't do anything without the United
Speaker 1: States of America. Now he's on the phone to Putin
Speaker 1: after his chastise Zelenski. He wants to bring peace. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's any question about that. He wants the
Speaker 1: minerals that are in Ukraine rather than us going to
Speaker 1: China and try and get minerals from a political and
Speaker 1: an economic adversary that could turn on us on a dime.
Speaker 1: But how successful do you think he'll be? And you
Speaker 1: know Putin has taking it on the chin in this
Speaker 1: war as well. He's not in exactly great shape in Russia.
Speaker 1: Where do you think this phone call is going today?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't have privy to it, but I know
Speaker 4: they're both tremendous negotiators, and I know Trump has come
Speaker 4: in here with a fresh mind to get peace. He
Speaker 4: doesn't want a never ending war. And these never ending wars,
Speaker 4: I should point out, oftentimes lead to total failure, you know.
Speaker 4: So never ending war in Vietnam leads to total loss.
Speaker 4: Ever ending war in Afghanistan leads to a total loss.
Speaker 2: So the side that just.
Speaker 4: Wants never ending war in Ukraine, like they're not willing
Speaker 4: to give up an inch inch or concede anything. You know,
Speaker 4: they're actually on a path to a total loss.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: So I think Trump is going to come in here
Speaker 4: and try to find the best mutually beneficial situation, you know.
Speaker 4: And on Zelensky side, you know, only only a fool
Speaker 4: spits on their best offer, you know. So at this point,
Speaker 4: Russia is strong, Russia's on the ground, and you know,
Speaker 4: you got to deal with the practicalities of the situation.
Speaker 4: But there's certainly some posturing going into the negotiation. But
Speaker 4: I expect President Trump, President Putin to make some progress
Speaker 4: on a framework for a deal here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And obviously you can't then just you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: Zelensky's got to get something out of it that helps
Speaker 1: him save face. He's still and I don't know the
Speaker 1: validity of these polls, who knows what kind of polling
Speaker 1: goes on, but he's still apparently is a popular leader
Speaker 1: in Ukraine, so he can't, you know, be completely disgraced
Speaker 1: in all of this. There's got to be a little
Speaker 1: bit of a win for him somewhere, and that win,
Speaker 1: quite frankly, maybe Americans on the ground in Ukraine protecting
Speaker 1: the mining interests that that Trump is interested in. If
Speaker 1: you're going to mine in Ukraine with Americans, you're going
Speaker 1: to have to protect those people that are doing that
Speaker 1: particular business, and therein may be the win for Zolensky.
Speaker 1: He has Americans on the ground protecting other Americans. It's
Speaker 1: not a NATO invitation. It's certainly not arming him the
Speaker 1: way he wants to be armed, but he gives him
Speaker 1: something there that could be the win for Zelensky.
Speaker 2: Would you agree? Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, US mental interests and US companies on the ground
Speaker 4: would certainly give a sense of protection. You know that
Speaker 4: no one's going to invade that territory. But I'm not
Speaker 4: sure how popular Zelensky is amongst the Ukrainian population here.
Speaker 4: I bet the vast majority of the Ukrainian population would
Speaker 4: actually like peace and don't appreciate the attitude that we're
Speaker 4: just going to do forever war and you know, not
Speaker 4: concede anything. I think at some point people get war fatigue.
Speaker 4: You know, we don't know. Zelenski hasn't been elected in
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it may not happen for a while too. All right, Finally,
Speaker 1: doctor Cogley, the Democrats are in disarray.
Speaker 2: CNN just did a poll.
Speaker 1: CNN obviously a left leaning organization, and they recorded they
Speaker 1: reported this poll among five hundred Democrats and Democrat leaning
Speaker 1: independents that the Americans as a whole have reached an
Speaker 1: opinion that the Democrats' favorability is twenty nine percent. Twenty
Speaker 1: nine percent, which almost seems unfathomable. They're leaderless, and in
Speaker 1: this poll, Alexandria Cassio Cortez emerged as the one who
Speaker 1: best reflects the core values of the Democrat Party. If
Speaker 1: that's the case, they may be in worse shape than
Speaker 1: twenty nine percent. I honestly, it's Joe Biden did more
Speaker 1: to hurt this country, in my opinion, than any president
Speaker 1: in the last one hundred years, and he might have
Speaker 1: done more in the history of his party to hurt
Speaker 1: that party in the last one hundred years. It's unbelievable
Speaker 1: where they have fallen, is it not?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: I think Joe Biden is more of a figurehead for
Speaker 4: the real powers that be left over from the Obama administration. So,
Speaker 4: you know Biden, you know, he's part of a larger
Speaker 4: team that definitely has hurt the Democratic brand. They seem
Speaker 4: to keep taking the wrong side of some issues like
Speaker 4: men and women's sports. They just can't get that one right.
Speaker 2: Independence and even.
Speaker 4: Democrats don't want men and women's sports and it's just
Speaker 4: the line they don't want to cross, and they don't
Speaker 4: understand the rationale.
Speaker 2: Of how we got there.
Speaker 6: And yeah, they have a branding.
Speaker 4: Issue saying AOC is like the best representation of the party,
Speaker 4: you know, as an indication of how far left the
Speaker 4: party has positioned themselves. And yeah, they'll have to have
Speaker 4: someone try to, you know, get this party to some
Speaker 4: more reasonable positions to save the brand.
Speaker 1: I don't see anybody out there to you, I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm looking, and I don't. Now it could spring out
Speaker 1: from that party on a moment's notice, but I just
Speaker 1: don't see anyone that anywhere has a voice that's even
Speaker 1: moderate in that party at this point.
Speaker 4: To you, No, I don't. I look, you know, Republicans
Speaker 4: are going to have a good midterm. We're used to
Speaker 4: the opposing the party opposing the president having a good midterm.
Speaker 4: But Republicans are almost on a lock to control the Senate.
Speaker 4: And the last time the party of the president kept
Speaker 4: the House would have been both two thousand and two
Speaker 4: and two thousand and four under President Bush. So the
Speaker 4: Republican Party is certainly capable in terms of, you know,
Speaker 4: a presidential challenge in twenty twenty eight. I mean, their
Speaker 4: best hope would be a name we're not really thinking
Speaker 4: about because you can't think of a good challenger and
Speaker 4: I can't either, But there could be a name we're
Speaker 4: not thinking about. You know, Trump came out of nowhere
Speaker 4: with you know, billions of dollars of backing and this
Speaker 4: great Arristhma. You know, it have to be someone like that,
Speaker 4: you know, to give them a nice chance in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: It's just someone we're not thinking about.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who it is. They're going to get
Speaker 1: the financial support and they're going to get the ground
Speaker 1: swell and whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: Look at I mean, look at Kamala Harris. I mean,
Speaker 1: before Biden bowed out, Kamala Harris might have been the
Speaker 1: most unpopular vice president in the history of the country.
Speaker 5: All of a.
Speaker 1: Sudden, she is annointed and she's like at forty nine percent.
Speaker 1: So you know it, regardless of who it is, there
Speaker 1: will be that support.
Speaker 2: Ohtho, the party will back them.
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, you know, can you get someone
Speaker 4: with a clean slate without all the baggage on all
Speaker 4: these far left issues. You know that Kamala Harris signed
Speaker 4: up for Gavin Newsoen signed up for can they get
Speaker 4: kind of a fresh face without all the baggage to
Speaker 4: kind of make a reset in twenty twenty eight. And
Speaker 4: of course the machine's going to back anyone, the Democratic
Speaker 4: Party machine will put it.
Speaker 6: But you know, it wasn't enough for Biden.
Speaker 4: It wasn't enough for Harris Cycle, and I think both
Speaker 4: of us are skeptical it'd be good enough for any
Speaker 4: one of the you know, governors or centers we're thinking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, all I know is this, you're on spring break,
Speaker 1: and don't do anything crazy like go to Panama City
Speaker 1: and you know, cannon ball into the ocean or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: We need you.
Speaker 1: We need to hear your voice, doctor Cogley, and enjoy
Speaker 1: what's left or your spring break. And I know you
Speaker 1: and I'll visit down the road for this time. We
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks so much.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 1: Ken guy knows more about politics than anybody I know,
Speaker 1: and he's right. The Dems are rudderless at this point.
Speaker 1: They're backing all the wrong issues. I don't know anybody
Speaker 1: in the right mind that would side with trend de
Speaker 1: Agua and say, you know, yeah, let's get those guys
Speaker 1: back in the country, like that nutball judge in DC.
Speaker 1: Get let's let's get those guys back in the country
Speaker 1: if we don't really need to protect Americans, you know,
Speaker 1: I just I think that's what happens when you have
Speaker 1: a party or a business or anything that has no leader,
Speaker 1: and they don't and when Biden bailed on them or
Speaker 1: was told to bail on them back in the summer,
Speaker 1: there was no plan B, and they have no Plan
Speaker 1: B right now. I've always said this, I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: This country operates the best when it has sound, reasonable
Speaker 1: voices on both sides of the equation that can argue,
Speaker 1: that can present and then come to some sort of decision,
Speaker 1: not when you've got one party just ruling everything and
Speaker 1: the other one off trying to do Kumbaya and find
Speaker 1: somebody that will be their voice. Twelve twenty seven, it's
Speaker 1: the Average American in for the Great American, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad you're here too. Seven hundred WLW Call thirty nine
Speaker 1: is Radio seven hundred WLW. Welcome back, the Average American
Speaker 1: in for the Great American. Jamar Chason T.
Speaker 2: Higgins.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a news conference. It was supposed to
Speaker 1: be a two. Now it's at three point thirty. I
Speaker 1: would read nothing into that.
Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you might get Trey Hendrickson up
Speaker 1: there with him as well. But the Bengals had no choice.
Speaker 1: They had to sign both of those guys. When your
Speaker 1: quarterback is out there campaigning for you to sign both
Speaker 1: of them, and your quarterback is the best quarterback you've
Speaker 1: had in franchise history, you have no choice. You got
Speaker 1: to do it, and they had the money to do
Speaker 1: it because the cat keeps going up and up and up.
Speaker 1: What they gotta do is be better drafting. They have
Speaker 1: not done well drafting. It's been hit and miss. Burrow
Speaker 1: was a no brainer. Chase was a no brainer. But
Speaker 1: you know, for every Burrow and Chase, you got a
Speaker 1: Jackson Carman or a Tyler Shelvin or Zach Carter or
Speaker 1: Miles Murphy or Jermaine Burton. You gotta be better drafting.
Speaker 1: They only have six draft picks this year and as
Speaker 1: of now, they still need two guards. They need an
Speaker 1: upgrade in their secondary, they need an upgrade in their
Speaker 1: linebacking situation. They need another edge rusher. So I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got to you know, it's great, they've got the money.
Speaker 1: If you don't pay your best players, nobody's going to
Speaker 1: want to come here to be a free agent if
Speaker 1: you don't take if you don't take care of your own,
Speaker 1: So they really had no choice, but they do have to.
Speaker 1: They do need to start knocking it out of the park.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've had hits, had a lot of misses too.
Speaker 1: So we'll see where it goes from here, and we'll
Speaker 1: we'll watch what transpires at three thirty today on the
Speaker 1: show Today, America's Attorney Jeremy Rosenthal more on what the
Speaker 1: court system is trying to do to Trump and his
Speaker 1: presidency and also was this an outright defiance of a
Speaker 1: judge's order? If it is, and is so viewed that way,
Speaker 1: then that White House has more trouble than it thinks
Speaker 1: it has right now. Or was it just some rogue
Speaker 1: judge that was trying to get us fifteen minutes of fame?
Speaker 1: The America's Attorney Jeremy Rosa thought will be in to
Speaker 1: talk about that. And what of Biden issuing all of
Speaker 1: these pardons on his way out the door, and now
Speaker 1: we find out they were signed with an autopen does
Speaker 1: that then negate the legality of those pardons or is
Speaker 1: it just something that every president has done the autopen
Speaker 1: We will find out all about that today at one
Speaker 1: o'clock and then at two AI and how it can
Speaker 1: dupe you. It's being used to dupe a lot of people,
Speaker 1: elderly people in particular. But how just having your voice
Speaker 1: duplicated by AI without your knowledge can really hurt a
Speaker 1: lot of people. And what you can do to protect
Speaker 1: yourself from that happening and protect those who might be
Speaker 1: duped in the process. This is a real issue with AI.
Speaker 1: More bad news for gen Z. They're now revenge quitting.
Speaker 1: Revenge quitting as payback for employers a lay just unfair treatment.
Speaker 2: It's causing chaos at the.
Speaker 1: Offices disgruntled gen Z employees. They're not getting mad, they're
Speaker 1: just walking out the door. Gen Z has proven to
Speaker 1: be for a lot of businesses, a real headache, largely
Speaker 1: because of the way a lot of these gen Zers
Speaker 1: were raised with this privileged and entitlement that they seem
Speaker 1: to have, and secondly because they don't want to work.
Speaker 1: You know, it's almost like mom and dad says, go
Speaker 1: out and get a job, Get the hell out of
Speaker 1: the house, go get a job. We just sent you
Speaker 1: through college, go get a job. And so sometimes and
Speaker 1: this is well documented, sometimes they go for an interview,
Speaker 1: they get a job, they don't show up for the
Speaker 1: job even on day one, or they show up for
Speaker 1: the job and they work the hours they want to work.
Speaker 1: And now this thirty seven percent of people that run
Speaker 1: companies and do the hiring, thirty seven percent rather have
Speaker 1: robots AI robots rather than gen Z grads. That's according
Speaker 1: news to a Newsweek. I didn't know Newsweek was still
Speaker 1: in business, but apparently they are. Newsweek has this thirty
Speaker 1: seven percent of how people that do the hiring or
Speaker 1: run companies would rather hire AI robots than gen Z grads.
Speaker 1: That's not a very good reflection on the younger said.
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: John Gordon knows. John Gordon is somebody that works with
Speaker 1: businesses to try and get them to work with and
Speaker 1: figure out how to get more productivity from gen Z ers.
Speaker 1: He's also a noted author. He's written almost a dozen books,
Speaker 1: including his latest Difficult Conversations Don't have to be difficult.
Speaker 1: I hope this conversation.
Speaker 2: With John is not. John Gordon, how are you on
Speaker 2: this glorious Tuesday?
Speaker 6: Hey? Ken, doing great?
Speaker 1: How are you.
Speaker 2: I'm fine.
Speaker 1: I'm not a recent college graduate, so I guess I
Speaker 1: got that going for me if I was trying to
Speaker 1: find work. But what do you make of this and
Speaker 1: what do you think is driving this kind of thinking
Speaker 1: among the people that actually do the hiring.
Speaker 3: We are seeing a cultural shift and a technology shift
Speaker 3: in the United States where A is becoming more and
Speaker 3: more predominant, and it can will take jobs in the future.
Speaker 3: We do know that, But we also need people who
Speaker 3: can utilize AI. And so the more you can utilize
Speaker 3: it and see it as a benefit and an opportunity
Speaker 3: to actually grow your company, grow your organization, and make
Speaker 3: things easier and better, well, then those who can use
Speaker 3: it will be very in demand. I think younger people
Speaker 3: come out of college yet they're not really prepared for jobs.
Speaker 3: But honestly, I wasn't either. I went to Cornell University.
Speaker 3: I graduated with a you and a college degree government economics,
Speaker 3: and that really to prepare me for any I'm now
Speaker 3: a writer, speaker, work with all these organizations and fl teams, right,
Speaker 3: none of that prepared me for what I do now.
Speaker 3: Unless you're a doctor, unless you are an engineer and
Speaker 3: have specific training but even when you go to companies
Speaker 3: and organizations, they have a training division, a training part
Speaker 3: of the company that actually trains you for that role
Speaker 3: that you're taking on. So I think these younger folks
Speaker 3: coming out are still very talented, they are hungry. The
Speaker 3: ones that I've hired, I've hired gen z, I love them,
Speaker 3: and they're actually going to be great future leaders. So
Speaker 3: I'm interested in this research as well as you are.
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's as bad as it sounds.
Speaker 1: To be honest, you touched on something that has been
Speaker 1: kind of a cause celeb for me. I don't hate academia.
Speaker 1: I don't. You went to a large private university, probably
Speaker 1: cost you or someone a lot of money to send
Speaker 1: you there. We have other schools that are more affordable.
Speaker 1: We have state colleges. We have a terrific state college
Speaker 1: system here in the state of Ohio, the Commonwealth of Kentucky.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that universities and colleges are being
Speaker 1: upfront with a lot of these kids that go there.
Speaker 1: I said just a while back, if you go to
Speaker 1: any university, any college, and say I want to study this,
Speaker 1: the college or university says you got the money to
Speaker 1: study this. Yeah, I do, Okay, come here and study this.
Speaker 1: Even if they don't offer that particular course of studies,
Speaker 1: they want your money. These universities have become giant cash
Speaker 1: cows and places where people can go to get a degree.
Speaker 1: But as you pointed out, your degree probably wasn't worth
Speaker 1: the amount of money you paid for it. It was
Speaker 1: your ingenuity that made it worth what you paid for
Speaker 1: it after you had a career change. I don't think
Speaker 1: colleges and universities are being upfront and fair with parents
Speaker 1: and with students. That's a generalization I understand, but I
Speaker 1: think by and large that goes on a lot and
Speaker 1: a lot too often in some of these institutions. Would
Speaker 1: you agree, I.
Speaker 3: Would agree that you're really not paying so much for
Speaker 3: the training the education. You're really paying for the experience.
Speaker 3: You're paying for the growth. You're paying for the opportunity
Speaker 3: to be a part of that university. And it really
Speaker 3: isn't sustainable as much as colleges these days, more and
Speaker 3: more people, I believe, are going to opt out from
Speaker 3: going to college.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 3: I had an incredible college experience. Both of my kids
Speaker 3: are twenty four and twenty six now. They went to
Speaker 3: Clemson University. We live in Florida.
Speaker 2: They had a.
Speaker 3: Great experience, but I knew what I was setting them there.
Speaker 3: I was not setting them there to actually learn a
Speaker 3: craft or to actually train in a job.
Speaker 2: They were communication majors.
Speaker 3: So I knew I wasn't setting them there for that reason.
Speaker 2: So I think, as long as.
Speaker 3: You know why you're going there, what is the reason?
Speaker 3: And it's really up to the student and the parents
Speaker 3: to say, what do I want to get out of
Speaker 3: this college? And why am I paying this money? And
Speaker 3: that intention on both sides is kick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But isn't that a lot to ask of a
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen year old? What do I want to get
Speaker 1: out of this experience? What I want to get out
Speaker 1: of college? I mean, they might tell you, you know, I
Speaker 1: want to get drunk on a Friday night consistently, or
Speaker 1: they might tell you, you know, I want to study as
Speaker 1: little as possible, or I want to go see a
Speaker 1: lot of sporting events. That's a lot of pressure to
Speaker 1: put on an eighteen or nineteen year old, isn't it.
Speaker 3: You're right, and I do agree that a lot of
Speaker 3: kids these days are going to college for that experience.
Speaker 3: That's why in the South, all these big football schools
Speaker 3: are filling it out.
Speaker 6: We also know it in Ohio, right, you have Ohio State.
Speaker 3: People love that's good to Ohio State.
Speaker 2: They love this big school atmosphere.
Speaker 3: And so kids are going for the experience, for the fun.
Speaker 3: But I'm not so sure as we talked about preparing
Speaker 3: them for their jobs in the future. But we just
Speaker 3: know that upfront, college will not prepare you for the
Speaker 3: job that you need in most cases, unless.
Speaker 2: It's a specific job that you're going there for.
Speaker 3: It's a journalism degree, if it's a medical degree, perhaps
Speaker 3: a science degree, what do you specifically going there for?
Speaker 3: And if you go in there as a journalist, yes,
Speaker 3: you're gonna come out with not a lot of specific skills.
Speaker 3: But there are so many young talented and I have
Speaker 3: found wise incredible young leaders that are coming out and
Speaker 3: I'm actually in my company we're looking for those people
Speaker 3: to invest in them and help them along the way.
Speaker 3: I'm even starting a leadership academy for college students this
Speaker 3: year where we're gon we're gonna help develop them as
Speaker 3: leaders so that they'll be more marketable in the workplace.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think there's something that has to happen
Speaker 1: then with kids that are fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old,
Speaker 1: and maybe it's mom and dad, maybe it's an uncle
Speaker 1: or and or somebody that can just get them on
Speaker 1: the right track so when they get to when they're
Speaker 1: in school, they will at least have the wherewithal to
Speaker 1: raise questions, Hey, is this what I should be doing? Okay,
Speaker 1: I get that, it doesn't really erase what the crux
Speaker 1: of this conversation is, and that robotics and AI are
Speaker 1: not just taking over the workforce and in some case
Speaker 1: eliminating jobs. It's making jobs scarcer for kids that are
Speaker 1: now coming out the gen zers and then ultimately the
Speaker 1: gen alphers or whatever they're going to be called down
Speaker 1: the road.
Speaker 2: So what do you.
Speaker 1: Do when you're someone that wants to better your life.
Speaker 1: You want to go to school, you want to learn things,
Speaker 1: you want a good paying job. But you also know
Speaker 1: here's this force out there that is totally inhuman that
Speaker 1: may I may be in competition with when I get
Speaker 1: out of school.
Speaker 2: What do you do at this point?
Speaker 1: How do you identify those jobs that may not be
Speaker 1: there for you when you're ready to go into the.
Speaker 3: Workforce, Well, even before that, I really believe that a
Speaker 3: college student should take internships and try to find internships
Speaker 3: in different companies, in different opportunities that will help them
Speaker 3: get a job, because we just said the crux and
Speaker 3: this is that jobs aren't available. So an internship, marketing yourself,
Speaker 3: showing what you can do, demonstrating who you are is
Speaker 3: essential for getting a job. I need so many employers
Speaker 3: that have hired in terms that work for them. Why
Speaker 3: because you hire people you trust, you hire people you know,
Speaker 3: and there's a relationship there. So I think first and
Speaker 3: foremost that is really important. Then it's also looking at
Speaker 3: the landscape and understanding what jobs are going to require
Speaker 3: talent like I.
Speaker 6: Have and are not going to be replaced by AI.
Speaker 3: And if AI is going to be used in their job,
Speaker 3: what are the characteristics and the skills and talents needed
Speaker 3: to be able to utilize AI So that you have
Speaker 3: that job that is utilizing the AI technology and you
Speaker 3: have to have that melouse so that experience is really key.
Speaker 3: Like my social media coordinator, she's now using AI all
Speaker 3: the time in her work.
Speaker 6: She didn't learn this in college.
Speaker 3: She learned this with me now. But that makes her
Speaker 3: very sustainable and powerful in my work is I need
Speaker 3: someone who knows how to do this, and I'm not
Speaker 3: going to get rid of her now because she knows
Speaker 3: how to do it, so she's utilizing AI.
Speaker 6: To me, those are the key.
Speaker 1: And that's why he sold a ton of books. John,
Speaker 1: Thank you for your time. Stay well. I hope we
Speaker 1: can talk again.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 6: I'd love to thanks again.
Speaker 2: Have a great debt.
Speaker 1: You too, you too. Yeah, here's a little tip. If
Speaker 1: you get a job, at least show up for the job.
Speaker 1: When you're on the job, show up when you're supposed to.
Speaker 1: They say, being by ten, being by like nine p fifty.
Speaker 1: If they say do this, do that. If they say
Speaker 1: you got to work with this team, work with that team.
Speaker 1: But for God's sake, don't just quit because you don't
Speaker 1: like it. That stuff follows you around. That's unbelievable. Well
Speaker 1: it's not, I guess if you're doing the hiring. It
Speaker 1: is uh twelve fifty three already. And again that news
Speaker 1: conference with Jamar Chase and t Higgins that was set
Speaker 1: for two o'clock has been pushed back to three point thirty. Regardless,
Speaker 1: we will carry it live here on seven hundred wylw.
Speaker 2: Well and it's the.
Speaker 1: Average American and for the great American on this Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Great to have you with us Reds Baseball on the
Speaker 1: horizon in just a little bit. As the exhibition season
Speaker 1: is coming to an end and opening day is one
Speaker 1: week from this Thursday. My goodness, it's here already. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the drama in Washington continues with President Donald Trump in
Speaker 1: the court system. I just have a feeling that the
Speaker 1: President was itching for something legally to take on on
Speaker 1: these these very what's the word I'm looking for the
Speaker 1: other activists, something else that I need to use. I
Speaker 1: should know these descriptive words. But these judges that think
Speaker 1: they're kings, that there's something more than just people that
Speaker 1: I preside over a very small geographic area. There's about
Speaker 1: six hundred of these district judges running around. And this
Speaker 1: Broseberg character in Washington, d C. That wanted Trump to
Speaker 1: turn the plane around while it was loaded with a
Speaker 1: bunch of thugs and gangsters and gangbangers and trend dialguo
Speaker 1: types that was headed to l Savador. He wanted that
Speaker 1: thing turned around mid flight, as opposed to dealing with
Speaker 1: things that are more Germane to his particular district which
Speaker 1: is the Washington DC area. Nevertheless, it's not the one judge,
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of judges, and Trump wants this
Speaker 1: particular judge impeached. There is a congress person that has
Speaker 1: now raised impeachment charges against this judge in Washington, DC.
Speaker 2: That did it. You've got the.
Speaker 1: Chief Justice of the Supreme Court issuing a very terse
Speaker 1: statement today saying that just because you don't like what
Speaker 1: a judge ruled doesn't give you the right to impeach
Speaker 1: that judge. Well, honestly, you can impeach anybody. The old
Speaker 1: line is you can bring allegations against a ham sandwich.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter. It just you know, it plays
Speaker 1: out in the courts. Nevertheless, all of this is going
Speaker 1: on in Washington, where the theatrics are just astounding, and
Speaker 1: of course the sink ephants and the media just go
Speaker 1: right along with whatever the opposition is towards Donald Trump
Speaker 1: these days. And nevertheless, there is a lot legally on
Speaker 1: the former president's plate. And you know, when it comes
Speaker 1: to things legal, we turn to America's attorney. There is
Speaker 1: no one that is better in a courtroom. There is
Speaker 1: no one who is more well versed in the law.
Speaker 1: There is no one who walks into a courtroom and
Speaker 1: here's the same six words every time he walks in.
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's him. Let's settle, and that would be
Speaker 1: the man I speak of and about to welcome in.
Speaker 1: He's never lost a court case he didn't want to win.
Speaker 1: It's Jeremy Rosenthal. Jeremy, how are you on this glorious day? Man?
Speaker 6: I'm gonna record that, I'm gonna tell I'm.
Speaker 7: Gonna demand that.
Speaker 8: You're leaving out a couple of four litter words of
Speaker 8: that sentence.
Speaker 6: The real sentence is, oh blank.
Speaker 1: It's not even lunch. It's not even lunchtime. You've had
Speaker 1: three acquittals and two settlements. Come on, man, that's your day.
Speaker 1: That's your day.
Speaker 8: Man, I'm saying, yeah, you know what, let's see and see.
Speaker 8: How can you skip over? You talk about baseball season
Speaker 8: in a week? We're in Big twelve country. How can
Speaker 8: you not talk March madness here?
Speaker 6: You know, I'm red Raiders are going to win this
Speaker 6: for the Big twelve territory. I don't think since he
Speaker 6: made it, I'm sorry and help you with me.
Speaker 8: But anyway, yes, yeah, this is a lot of interesting
Speaker 8: stuff here, a lot of interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: Texas Tech is going to win it all. Yes, recreational
Speaker 1: drugs are apparently legal where Jeremy lives.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's talk about this.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this, this Boseberg character, this US District judge. No,
Speaker 1: we have Uh, we have a very robust and very
Speaker 1: good legal system here in the Greater Cincinnati area. We
Speaker 1: have many, many great judges here. We have we have
Speaker 1: a lot of judges here because of where we sit.
Speaker 2: And what's here.
Speaker 1: I mean, as you well know, we have the Sixth
Speaker 1: Circuit Court of Appeals is based here. They've got about
Speaker 1: sixteen active judges. Southern District of Ohio's got about eight
Speaker 1: current judges, maybe eight senior judges, by and large, current
Speaker 1: and retired. We got about forty judges running around here
Speaker 1: in the Greater Cincinnati area. Now imagine all of that
Speaker 1: times how many That gets you to about six hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy of these guys that are out there, every
Speaker 1: one of them at any point could say to themselves,
Speaker 1: I don't like what that guy's doing in the White House.
Speaker 1: I'm going to issue an order. I'm going to tell
Speaker 1: him he can't fly Air Force one over South Dakota.
Speaker 1: He can't drop that bomb on the hoody rebels. He
Speaker 1: can't do any of that. Imagine what this country would
Speaker 1: be like if every one of these guys thought they
Speaker 1: were James Boseburg. We'd have absolute chaos, would we not?
Speaker 8: Okay, we'll think it.
Speaker 1: I think we lost Jeremy. I think Jeremy dropped out there.
Speaker 1: Let's try and re establish her. Jeremy is still there.
Speaker 1: You dropped out there a little bit.
Speaker 2: Can can you hear me?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 1: Yes, now I can, if you'll just pick up that
Speaker 1: tokay after my question?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I apologize for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So you gotta think about it like this. And I'm
Speaker 6: a I'm a I'm a lawyer. I'm a big fan
Speaker 6: of the legal system. You know, I'm a big you know,
Speaker 6: due process is my jam, right, you gotta think about
Speaker 6: it like this. Uh, A federal judge isn't like some
Speaker 6: guy in the bleachers who runs out to block a
Speaker 6: shot out of nowhere. You gotta they gotta have a
Speaker 6: lawsuit in front of them, and and so they they
Speaker 6: rule on what is brought to them, and they're to
Speaker 6: think of their jurisdiction. You have to think like the
Speaker 6: Avengers universe, the multiverse. What do they call it? It's
Speaker 6: really their their jurisdiction is I mean from Marborie versus Madison, Uh,
Speaker 6: their their their jurisdiction extends to not so much territory
Speaker 6: as it does the uh the executive branch or Congress
Speaker 6: or something like that. Ultimately, the big question since are
Speaker 6: going to go up to the Supreme Court. But I
Speaker 6: do think that when we're and look, we can be critical.
Speaker 6: And we have to remember too that every one of
Speaker 6: these federal judges was nominated by a President of the
Speaker 6: United States and confirmed by the US Senate. They're hard
Speaker 6: to get rid of, and you really don't buy a
Speaker 6: lottery ticket and get to be a federal judge. Some
Speaker 6: are better than others. There's a reason why you know.
Speaker 6: You're a district judges compared to a Supreme Court judge.
Speaker 6: It's a lifetime appointment. But you can block the sale
Speaker 6: of a major soccer franchise in Europe if it gets
Speaker 6: in front of you. You can block the Court of
Speaker 6: Houston or sign an order doing that. And because of
Speaker 6: Marburie versus Madison, you can order the executive to to
Speaker 6: do something, and the executive's remedy is to appeal it
Speaker 6: and it can be blow it can be frustrating. But
Speaker 6: there's a lot of people who would argue that that's
Speaker 6: how the framers intended this to be. And I know
Speaker 6: there's a lot of frustration with the administration, and and uh,
Speaker 6: you know, I I do think, well, I'll let you.
Speaker 6: You know, I talk a lot. No, no, I'll.
Speaker 2: No, no, it's not that.
Speaker 1: Let me but the time out you used to you know,
Speaker 1: we started out with a sports analogy. It's one thing
Speaker 1: if you have something in front of you, if you're
Speaker 1: a district judge, and that's something hasn't begun yet, it's
Speaker 1: yet to start, and all of a sudden, now this
Speaker 1: is this is this was an action that started. Some
Speaker 1: would say, well, you know, the administration was scrambling to
Speaker 1: get the planes off the ground because they knew that
Speaker 1: this this lawsuit had been filed, and they know the
Speaker 1: guy this this this uh Boseberg character very a liberal
Speaker 1: judge in a very liberal area. We'll get into that
Speaker 1: in a second. But uh, but you know they they
Speaker 1: knew all that, and they were scrambling and getting these
Speaker 1: planes off the ground. However, it's it's to use the
Speaker 1: sports analogy. It's like putting your team on the field
Speaker 1: in a major game and finding out in the third
Speaker 1: quarter when you've got to lead that you're you got
Speaker 1: to take you got to take certain players off the
Speaker 1: field because somebody filed a lawsuit that said they're really
Speaker 1: not eligible to play in this game, and you're going
Speaker 1: to have to finish the game with you know, nine
Speaker 1: players on the field instead of eleven. I think that's
Speaker 1: where I think I've got a problem. It's one thing
Speaker 1: to do it, it's another thing to do it while
Speaker 1: it's in progress. And in this case, this judge had
Speaker 1: absolutely no idea where that plane was, if it had
Speaker 1: enough fuel to turn around and come back to the
Speaker 1: United States, and to just do it, you know, just
Speaker 1: oh okay, some judge said that. I think you know
Speaker 1: better than I. But I think that's problematic for me.
Speaker 1: And also I think Trump's itching for a fight. I
Speaker 1: think he wants to take on these activist judges, all
Speaker 1: of whom seem to be appointed or the vast majority
Speaker 1: over ninety percent where these suits have been while they
Speaker 1: all have been appointed by either Obama or Clinton or Biden.
Speaker 1: I think he's itching for a fight to say, you
Speaker 1: know what you know stay in your wane. Don't you
Speaker 1: come jump well over here.
Speaker 6: He's certainly been very aggressive in a lot of his rhetoric.
Speaker 6: And uh, and I'll tell you this and and and
Speaker 6: I'll kind of think about it this way. And I'm
Speaker 6: gonna you didn't ask for this, Ken, but I'm gonna
Speaker 6: kind of throw this out here. This is the kind
Speaker 6: of colonoscopy that we're gonna have today, this inner looking
Speaker 6: at ourselves. This this introspection. Right, it's gonna be thorough.
Speaker 6: You didn't ask me this, but I'm gonna go here anyway.
Speaker 1: I'm overdue for a coy enemy, So go right ahead.
Speaker 6: There you go. And yes, is that we can do
Speaker 6: a p s A as as we are as we're
Speaker 6: doing good. But okay, think about it like this, the
Speaker 6: disconnect the and the information systems. In preparing to talk
Speaker 6: with you, Ken, You know, as I do, I I
Speaker 6: look at everything, and I I do my best to
Speaker 6: sort of digest at all. And the left and the
Speaker 6: right in this country can only agree on one thing,
Speaker 6: and one thing only, And that's the price of eggs.
Speaker 6: I watch an interview of Tom Homan on Fox and
Speaker 6: he is talking about standing up for the Constitution which
Speaker 6: nobody can disagree with. I watch an interview with him
Speaker 6: from CNN, same interview, and all I see is him saying,
Speaker 6: I don't care what a judge thinks. Obviously, both both
Speaker 6: the ABC News and Fox News say, well, what he
Speaker 6: said is right, and what he said it's say or
Speaker 6: I think I think that obviously the truth is probably
Speaker 6: somewhere in the middle. I'd like to see the full
Speaker 6: sentence of what he said. But it's amazing to me
Speaker 6: the debate that we have in this country over the
Speaker 6: judiciary and how it's hard to agree on. So when
Speaker 6: we talk about, you know, people we have, I have
Speaker 6: to remember a handful of things here, and that is
Speaker 6: that look to invoke the Alien Enemies Act, which Trump
Speaker 6: has done to deport them, is a novel argument. It's
Speaker 6: not necessarily wrong. I don't know if it's wrong. He
Speaker 6: may very well be right, and it may just be
Speaker 6: a creative way to sort of solve a problem. He's
Speaker 6: got a very narrow margin in the Senate and even
Speaker 6: slimmer margin in the House. Immigration reform is impossible to
Speaker 6: pass anyway, so it's not a stupid idea to Okay, well,
Speaker 6: let's dig up the books and let's see what's out
Speaker 6: there that we can use. Okay, we can use this one. Right,
Speaker 6: that's not a terrible argument to make. Is it right?
Speaker 6: Is it wrong? I don't know. But I don't get
Speaker 6: to go say if I'm in a divorce case with
Speaker 6: my client, I don't get to say, you know what,
Speaker 6: I don't like that judge. That judge is a hypocrite.
Speaker 6: He's a jerk.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 6: You kids this weekend anyway, right, because we'll we're not
Speaker 6: allowed to do that, and and and so people have
Speaker 6: to understand that we have checks and balances, and it's
Speaker 6: a process. And I think Trump to your point about
Speaker 6: kind of itching for a fight. Trump knows that he's
Speaker 6: gonna get at least some of what he wants here,
Speaker 6: and he knows he's going to score some points anytime
Speaker 6: he's talking about look at the thugs I'm deporting, he's winning, right.
Speaker 6: Uh So, so maybe you're you're you're you're right about
Speaker 6: him sort of itching for a fight, where lawyer Jeremy
Speaker 6: kind of goes, do we you know? Now, maybe maybe
Speaker 6: this judge is a moral I don't know. Maybe he's great,
Speaker 6: maybe he's not great. I don't know. But Chief Justice.
Speaker 6: I wasn't aware that he said something to the effect.
Speaker 1: Jeremy's gone, uh, fading in and out here on us.
Speaker 1: He might have hit another one of those knolls. And
Speaker 1: what he's mentioning that, Yeah, yeah, you're you're cutting it out,
Speaker 1: But yeah, what what what? What you were going to
Speaker 1: mention is that John Roberts said here in the last
Speaker 1: hour that just because in essence, not in these words,
Speaker 1: but in essence, just because you don't like a ruling
Speaker 1: by a judge doesn't mean you go ahead and impeach
Speaker 1: the guy. So you know, that might be a little
Speaker 1: bit of a forbear foreshadowing of what may happen if
Speaker 1: indeed it gets to the Supreme Court. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's going anywhere. Trump, as you well know, goes off
Speaker 1: and then he's got he'll find some congressmen that'll bring
Speaker 1: impeachment charges against this judge, which he did. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like Al Green in Texas. He's going to impeach Trump.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the votes. There's votes, isn't there to
Speaker 1: impeach this judge. I mean, it's all nonsense and rhetoric.
Speaker 1: I don't put much much faith into that at all.
Speaker 1: I do think though, there has to be some there
Speaker 1: has to be something that happens legally that keeps these
Speaker 1: things from just popping up, because what you have, and
Speaker 1: you mentioned these, you know, these various courts, Jeremy. The
Speaker 1: people that are bringing these lawsuits to judge shopping, they're
Speaker 1: going to courts where they know they can find a
Speaker 1: sympathetic judge or group of judges as opposed to you know,
Speaker 1: if it's a group in Omaha, Nebraska filing it in Omaha, Nebraska,
Speaker 1: whatever court might oversee that. No, they're going to places
Speaker 1: like the Southern District of New York, like Rhode Island,
Speaker 1: like Maryland, and like where this Broseberg or Boseburg guy's
Speaker 1: in in the district of Columbia. And I think there's
Speaker 1: got to be some sort of resolution of this, or
Speaker 1: all you're going to be doing now is putting out
Speaker 1: rush fires. The Republicans will do it the next time
Speaker 1: that the Democrats are in office. There's got to be
Speaker 1: some resolution to it.
Speaker 6: And let me let me, let me play Devil's advocate here, Okay,
Speaker 6: doing criminal law when we have a judge who that
Speaker 6: there's a lot of judges who sign a lot of
Speaker 6: search warrants for police. Right, the police have the favorite
Speaker 6: judges that they want to go to to go have
Speaker 6: a search warrant signed. Right, the judge has the authority
Speaker 6: to do it. And I always warn a law enforcement
Speaker 6: when they if they ever asked me, or if I'm
Speaker 6: ever advised and I'm friends with enough of them to say, hey,
Speaker 6: you know, here's.
Speaker 2: How I would do it.
Speaker 6: If you go to this judge, you're asking for a
Speaker 6: problem because this guy's not going to review it very hard.
Speaker 6: He's kind of pro prosecution. And I know later on
Speaker 6: when I look at this, I might be able to
Speaker 6: pick it apart. Go to the judge who go to
Speaker 6: the harder cells. Right, If you go to the judges
Speaker 6: that are a harder sell for you, then you're going
Speaker 6: to be fine. Ultimately, if people are going to go
Speaker 6: to a judge that they know is just going to
Speaker 6: get reversed, then they're not really accomplishing anything. So so
Speaker 6: you forum shop at your own peril because ultimately, in
Speaker 6: all these cases, they're all winding up at the Supreme Court.
Speaker 6: And so it is going to be Justice Roberts that
Speaker 6: sits on it. It is going to be Amy Cony Barrett,
Speaker 6: it is going to be Clarence Thomas who ultimately going
Speaker 6: to have the final say as to whether the Enemy
Speaker 6: Aliens Act is applicable or not. And frankly, probably what
Speaker 6: happens here if is if it does get stricken, then
Speaker 6: then what you'll have is a roadmap for the Trump
Speaker 6: administration to probably do it correctly. Okay, we got to
Speaker 6: declare war against Venezuela, sure, why not. Sign's fine now
Speaker 6: and now we're at war, okay, whatever, you know, and
Speaker 6: we're not sending any jets over there, but now we
Speaker 6: can use this act. So I think I think that's
Speaker 6: probably where this winds up. But yes, and you you
Speaker 6: get into these these situations that that are logistically that
Speaker 6: the courts were not built for, this type of logistical
Speaker 6: nightmare about you know, turning a plane around in the
Speaker 6: middle of flight, and the administration is not you know,
Speaker 6: it's one thing to criticize a judge, and it's one
Speaker 6: thing to even you know, and and you know as
Speaker 6: well as I do, can that during the next media cycle,
Speaker 6: everybody going to forget about this impeachment action against his judge, right,
Speaker 6: and in a month or now, this CONGRESSUS is gonna say, okay,
Speaker 6: whatever I know, and and it's probably not going to
Speaker 6: gain a whole lot of steam. But but ultimately, I
Speaker 6: think Trump knows that all roads lead to Rome, and
Speaker 6: it's all it's going to be about whether the Supreme
Speaker 6: Court gets in on this. Now, Trump may he may
Speaker 6: criticize a lower court judge like that, you know, but
Speaker 6: I think once it gets to a higher court, I
Speaker 6: think you're going to see a lot of the rhetoric
Speaker 6: toned down. And again, I think maybe Trump is looking
Speaker 6: for a roadmap here of how to get it right,
Speaker 6: probably just knowing that, look, we're going to fling this
Speaker 6: out here. We know we're going to get objected to.
Speaker 6: Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, And if it doesn't
Speaker 6: work the first time, we'll get it right the next time.
Speaker 6: I think that may be what you're going to see here.
Speaker 1: Well, we may we we may not. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: he and and John Roberts of a long standing feud.
Speaker 1: It's been going back now almost six seven years. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see to see what happens when
Speaker 1: it gets outside of these district courts. My only point
Speaker 1: is is he was elected president. He is the person
Speaker 1: that has been elected to govern this country. He has
Speaker 1: to do it within legal parameters. But sometimes these legal
Speaker 1: parameters fly in the face of what has to be
Speaker 1: done to protect this country. What if what if he
Speaker 1: you know again, what if he decides, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: going I'm going to take out a hoothy ship in
Speaker 1: the gulf like he did over the weekend, and somebody
Speaker 1: gets wint to that, and all of a sudden, you
Speaker 1: got a lawsuit in front of a judge saying, well,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, now, you can't do that.
Speaker 2: You know this might do this. I I just yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you'd be.
Speaker 6: The most lightning fast That'd be the most lightning fast
Speaker 6: lawyer I've ever met.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, but I'm just saying, I mean, if you want
Speaker 1: to play it out to the absurd, then let's do that.
Speaker 1: I think trying to impeach this judge is nuts. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. I think what Robert says is probably
Speaker 1: the most sane thing that's been said so far.
Speaker 2: And then and then uh, and then but.
Speaker 1: But again, there's got to be fences, there's got to
Speaker 1: be parameters, or or you just have chaos.
Speaker 2: It's just gonna.
Speaker 6: It's it's really hard. Can to imagine every scenario. And
Speaker 6: you mentioned something that that I hadn't even thought about
Speaker 6: in all this. I mean, did the plane have enough
Speaker 6: fuel to turn around?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 6: Uh? And and and if it and and and so yeah,
Speaker 6: that that's one thing that a federal judge, you know,
Speaker 6: doesn't understand when he's necessarily on there on the bench.
Speaker 6: And and yeah, I think that if I don't have
Speaker 6: enough fuel to go back, I'll risk being held in
Speaker 6: contempt by saying and if by saying, judge, uh, here's
Speaker 6: a picture of the uh whatever in the plane, the
Speaker 6: flux capacitor odometer.
Speaker 2: That we were gonna make him.
Speaker 6: Okay, don't don't don't, you know, take it easy, you know.
Speaker 6: So so it's really but and the legal system is
Speaker 6: just not you know, think about it like this too.
Speaker 6: To go back to sports, because we always it always
Speaker 6: comes back to is an analog analogized uh A A.
Speaker 6: A trial is like a football game where the referee
Speaker 6: is making the call right off sides and bounds out
Speaker 6: of bounds. An appeal is the replay booth and and
Speaker 6: and so you're you're you're looking at a set of
Speaker 6: facts and then you're reviewing it later. It's really really
Speaker 6: hard to anticipate all the calls on a field and
Speaker 6: how immediate they can be. Because you're you're also you
Speaker 6: know you you have the legal remedy of an injunction
Speaker 6: to say, look, we were reparably harmed if X, Y
Speaker 6: or Z happens. Now most of the time, you hope
Speaker 6: that it's something like judge. I have to graduate in
Speaker 6: three weeks, and if I don't walk across the stage,
Speaker 6: if the school bars me because of some shirt that
Speaker 6: I wore, I'm reparably harmed. Well, we've got time to
Speaker 6: get it. We're flying planes over the ocean.
Speaker 1: But Jeremy, Jeremy, I gotta go because the referee said,
Speaker 1: I'm at a time, but I'll be in touch and
Speaker 1: you good, good luck this afternoon. And I hope you've
Speaker 1: got settlements or acquittals between now and dinner.
Speaker 6: I'll let you know. I'll let you know if we
Speaker 6: get ten or twenty, I'll let you know.
Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, Jeremy, America's attorney Jeremy Rosenthal on
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Speaker 1: And that's the problem, seg It's you know, everything is
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Speaker 1: With Byron Larkin and Joe Sunders. That is correct, and
Speaker 1: then if they win, then they play on Friday right
Speaker 1: on against Illinois.
Speaker 2: Yes, Sir, bearcat so played the Blue Demons of DePaul
Speaker 2: in the first round of the New College Basketball Crown
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Speaker 1: How about Miami getting I'm believably not.
Speaker 2: How does the n i T say we don't want
Speaker 2: the n I T said we want you.
Speaker 1: No, I mean the n I T called South Alabama
Speaker 1: and said hey, you're in, and then an hour later
Speaker 1: they called him back and said, no, I'm sorry, we
Speaker 1: made a mistake.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. I mean, Miami, they've gotten great crowds all year long.
Speaker 2: What are they worried about. It's not only that they
Speaker 2: played terrific basket correct and they take Kent State. Give
Speaker 2: me a break, and they beat Kent State. Thank you
Speaker 2: times right, thank you? Yeah? And I saw the.
Speaker 1: Athletic director up. There's a little upset about what how
Speaker 1: that transpired. Maybe maybe you need to cultivate a better
Speaker 1: relationship with with the NCAA.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean there might be time to get a little
Speaker 1: pr going higher, an outside firm and have them cultivate
Speaker 1: your image.
Speaker 2: Well you know what's gonna You know, the West Virginia
Speaker 2: governor is gonna sue the selection committee.
Speaker 1: Well he isn't that guy's now it's kind of like
Speaker 1: Trump wants to impeach this this, this judge in d C.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not gonna happen. What's the NCAA going
Speaker 1: to say to West Virginia? Oh sorry, sorry, you.
Speaker 2: Next Dayton Flyers are on the road tomorrow night at
Speaker 2: Florida Atlantic in the first round of the n I T.
Speaker 2: New York Times ken Brew is a reporting that the
Speaker 2: current UCLA head coach and former UC Bearcat coach Mick
Speaker 2: Cronin is a dark horse candidate now for the Villanova vacancy.
Speaker 1: Villanova Villanova, Well, that's interesting. What's going on at UCLA
Speaker 1: doesn't like?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, you know, names are popping up
Speaker 2: all over the place when somebody, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: how many times has Sean Miller's name come up? Whenever
Speaker 2: you know a big school is letting go of their coach.
Speaker 2: That's normal. I think I say so too. He said
Speaker 2: he's doing I mean, he's doing a great job out there.
Speaker 2: I mean, just look at the money you can generate
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. B A v At a small school
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia then go.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that's a job you take.
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Speaker 2: that press conference now today at three thirty. What happened?
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be a two I don't think
Speaker 2: these I think they overslept Jamar Chase and T Higgins.
Speaker 2: I think they were in line at the bank.
Speaker 1: You don't think Mike Brown's having second thoughts, do you?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Onree thirty you'll be hearing it
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty because we got Reds Baseball. The
Speaker 2: Bengals may be favorites ken Brew, according to reports, to
Speaker 2: be the Miami Dolphins opponent and Madrid Spain next this
Speaker 2: coming season. That's the old label. The Bengals haven't played
Speaker 2: an international game since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Wow, so they'd Madrid like Madrid Spain, Madrid Missouri, correct Spain.
Speaker 2: Because I get well, the Dolphins and Bengals are going
Speaker 2: to play, they may end up over in Spain versus here.
Speaker 1: Well, that does that mean the Bengals lose a home game?
Speaker 1: Are they supposed to play the Dolphins here?
Speaker 2: Or they can go bing go they lose a home
Speaker 2: I think I think they do.
Speaker 1: Yes, I would be up in arms if I was
Speaker 1: the hem and County Commission on that.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure Lisha Reese will get ahold of Roger
Speaker 2: Goodell and sue them too.
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's that's lost revenue for the county.
Speaker 7: Right there.
Speaker 2: The Reds and Angels meet today. Nick Lodolo gets the start,
Speaker 2: three thirty five RNL carriers inside pitch here on seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW. There's Reds are out to snap a seven
Speaker 2: game tack this league losing streak. Have they won a
Speaker 2: game in March yet? I believe so? About three weeks ago.
Speaker 2: They managed this one hit against Cleveland pitching last night
Speaker 2: and who that out feels a little rough right now?
Speaker 2: The baseball season began earlier this morning, ken Brew in Tokyo, Japan.
Speaker 2: Remember what it used to begin in Cincinnati? Correct? How
Speaker 2: the hell is the beginning in Tokyo now? Because baseball
Speaker 2: wants to become a worldwide game.
Speaker 1: Remember when they had the Reds open on I think
Speaker 1: they had the Reds open on a Thursday night, right,
Speaker 1: and March didn't even recognize exactly.
Speaker 2: It's like around Easter or something.
Speaker 1: Right, And then they say they played the next day.
Speaker 2: It was the day game. So well, this is our
Speaker 2: opening day we're gonna I mean it was yeah.
Speaker 1: So now and now it's in Tokyo, Okay, Yeah, Dodgers.
Speaker 2: Meet the Cubs four to one. Strong pitching by the
Speaker 2: Dodgers got it done. I watched I got up and
Speaker 2: watch some of that game. So and then of course
Speaker 2: Saturday and horse racing. It's the seven hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: seven thousand dollars Jeff Ruby Stakes at Turfoy Park, Poster
Speaker 2: and California Burrito had a field of twelve horses entered
Speaker 2: for the day, Saturday's big running of the race.
Speaker 1: They select post positions, I think Thursday, don't they I
Speaker 1: believe so normally that's when that happens. And ken Brew going.
Speaker 1: I don't know who. I want to know who figures
Speaker 1: this out.
Speaker 2: But of course Jamar Chase got that gigantic you know,
Speaker 2: contract extensions along with Higgins. And now everybody's up in
Speaker 2: arms that they're saying the Bengals pay too much, But
Speaker 2: they were complaining before that the Bengals weren't getting anything done.
Speaker 2: So have you heard anybody given Bengals management credit for this?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: You know what it's other.
Speaker 1: First of all, it's O there's other people's money. Who cares?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 1: That's the way they want to spend their money. Fine. Secondly,
Speaker 1: you got your your quarterback. Who's the best quarterback in franchise?
Speaker 2: History.
Speaker 1: Thank you running around the country saying we got to
Speaker 1: sign Higgins, we got to sign Chase.
Speaker 2: What do I do not Yeah and tick him off? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you got to keep him happy. But the next four years,
Speaker 2: jamar Chase, he's going to make a dollar and twenty
Speaker 2: eight per second, one dollar and twenty eight cents per second,
Speaker 2: seventy six dollars per minute, Yes, per day, he's going
Speaker 2: to make one hundred and ten thousand dollars. Now that
Speaker 2: was your salary at twelve. That's exactly what I understand.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I made a channel seven hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy four thousand per week before. That's when you jumped
Speaker 1: to Channel five. Exactly right. But this is all before taxes.
Speaker 2: Three point three million Chase will make per month? Was
Speaker 2: that when you did that action auction? Well I went
Speaker 2: to DC Oh okay, that's right. Oh, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because of living. Maybe he went at Penhouse near
Speaker 1: the White House and there you live. Ye okay, that's
Speaker 1: so I was known, that was known as Penthouse magazine. Ken,
Speaker 1: So I got I gotta go, I gotta go, seg
Speaker 1: because uh, because we got to sell these spots. You
Speaker 1: got these spots in no doubt about that, So seg
Speaker 1: you'll be back in a few minutes.
Speaker 2: We'll talk some more ken Brew and honor of a
Speaker 2: beautiful day here in the Tri State, and March Madness
Speaker 2: is underway with Ted McKay. We leave you with the
Speaker 2: immortal words of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 1: We're sorry about your carpet breaking down today, but we
Speaker 1: gotta go. We're pressed for time, but honestly, it was
Speaker 1: good to see you again.
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Speaker 1: the horizon at three thirty today, as we count out
Speaker 1: to opening day, Opening day now just one week from
Speaker 1: this Thursday. Stand by for all of that, stand by
Speaker 1: for all of this. AI is really a great thing.
Speaker 1: It can be used for so many different things that
Speaker 1: makes our lives here on Earth a lot better, not
Speaker 1: the least of which in medicine. Great strides are being
Speaker 1: made in medicine because of AYI. Things like cancer detection,
Speaker 1: things like potential cancers. There are a lot of programs
Speaker 1: out there, a lot of facilities you can go to
Speaker 1: where you can be pre tested to see if you
Speaker 1: are disposed to a certain kind of cancer that might
Speaker 1: be out there. And women breast cancer and men it
Speaker 1: might be something like colorecto cancer. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of things that AI is making great strides in medically
Speaker 1: and there are other things too. A lot of businesses
Speaker 1: have gone to AI. You'll get a virtual assistant when
Speaker 1: you try and figure out a problem with a product
Speaker 1: that you purchase may not be working right. AI is there.
Speaker 1: You can log on to a website and find out
Speaker 1: what's going on. If you're researching something, of course, you
Speaker 1: better be careful if you're researching something, because AI is
Speaker 1: only as good as the material that's put and put
Speaker 1: into it. And oftentimes there are people with an agenda
Speaker 1: that may put things into research material. But AI can
Speaker 1: help as you research a particular topic. It has been
Speaker 1: used a lot in academia. It has been used a
Speaker 1: lot for other things in academia like cheating. A lot
Speaker 1: of students figured out, hey, why do I have to
Speaker 1: write this paper. I can get AI to do it
Speaker 1: for me. And it is also something that is very,
Speaker 1: very dangerous. There is now a thing called voice cloning.
Speaker 1: It's been around for a while, but it's really really
Speaker 1: been refined here in the last few years because of
Speaker 1: AI and what it is in I guess in a
Speaker 1: nutshell is if your voice exists anywhere, if it exists
Speaker 1: on an answering machine, for example, an AI product could
Speaker 1: take that and flip that into a deceptive message that
Speaker 1: can be transmitted in your voice anybody that's in this medium.
Speaker 1: It could happen. Somebody could record me talking for fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes and all of a sudden, they can make my
Speaker 1: voice say anything to a script they may write. There
Speaker 1: are no I suppose boundaries when it comes to that
Speaker 1: the federal government is trying to stay on top of it.
Speaker 1: But the Federal Trade Commission, whom you would think would
Speaker 1: have some sort of authority over this, they don't have
Speaker 1: any specific data on voice cloning scams. About eight hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand imposter scams were reported in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it was only eight hundred and forty five.
Speaker 1: The number was far greater than that, and anybody can
Speaker 1: fall victim to it. A false message in the voice
Speaker 1: of a loved one, maybe looking for money or help
Speaker 1: of some kind. Those things are becoming more and more
Speaker 1: prevalent because of AI. So what do we do about this? Well,
Speaker 1: we turn to people that hopefully know these things and
Speaker 1: can help us. And I think we've got somebody here.
Speaker 2: He is the.
Speaker 1: CEO of PCA Technology Solutions. There's a company that specializes
Speaker 1: in cybersecurity and data protection, and he is Ted Klauser,
Speaker 1: and he's kind enough to carve out some time today
Speaker 1: for us here on seven hundred W wellw Ted, how
Speaker 1: are you on this glorious Tuesday.
Speaker 5: I'm doing fantastic. Thanks for having me, Ken, I'm.
Speaker 1: Glad you're here. Okay. AI is great in the right hands,
Speaker 1: AI in the wrong hands can be what I just
Speaker 1: described in your opinion. How prevalent is this problem, this
Speaker 1: voice cloning, voice scamming problem.
Speaker 5: I think it's very much a concern in today's world,
Speaker 5: and you mentioned it earlier, You and I simply having
Speaker 5: this conversation on air puts us at risk. And in
Speaker 5: today's world, we cannot trust the things that we see
Speaker 5: or the things that we hear without some sort of
Speaker 5: extra way to verify. So we're in a season or
Speaker 5: we're in a world now where we hear a message,
Speaker 5: we can't just believe that it's authentic without somehow confirming it.
Speaker 5: Because the technology allows us to create things that we
Speaker 5: just couldn't create three to five years ago.
Speaker 1: And so here we have what are these imposter scams.
Speaker 1: For a lot of years, my son was an assistant
Speaker 1: prosecutor here in Hamilton County and one of the jobs
Speaker 1: that he had while he worked in that office was
Speaker 1: starting up this I guess this elder law, this elder
Speaker 1: abuse law program, and he would go to various retirement
Speaker 1: centers and just explain what we're talking about right now.
Speaker 1: And when he explained it to me, I was dumbfounded.
Speaker 1: He said, you know, you could just write out a
Speaker 1: script for an hour radio show and just plug AI
Speaker 1: into it and it would come out in your voice.
Speaker 1: And I said to him, well, what if somebody else
Speaker 1: wrote a script and use my voice and made that
Speaker 1: anything that they want me to say?
Speaker 2: Said?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, the technology exists, he said, but it's really a
Speaker 1: problem for elderly because they don't understand and by elderly,
Speaker 1: i'm talking the plus sixty five crowd don't understand AI
Speaker 1: and B. They don't understand how someone could take their
Speaker 1: voice and make it sound or make it say something
Speaker 1: that they don't mean. These granny scams that are out there.
Speaker 1: So what you and I are talking about and what
Speaker 1: he did, basically is a major problem for anybody sixty
Speaker 1: five or older that might have children, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, whomever,
Speaker 1: whose voices can be cloned to try and scam that
Speaker 1: elderly person out of money, whether it be for bail
Speaker 1: or loan or whatever it may be. That's the target demo.
Speaker 1: I think that's most at risk. Would you agree?
Speaker 5: I would certainly agree. And I think if you think
Speaker 5: about the fear and uncertainty in doubt that could be
Speaker 5: created by a loved one, a grandchild, a nephew and
Speaker 5: niece calling in despair. Right in a situation where they
Speaker 5: need immediate help, You're going to want to act quickly,
Speaker 5: and the first thing that I would say is stop.
Speaker 5: The likelihood of that happening is very slim, but in
Speaker 5: the event it's possible. You want to use a second
Speaker 5: method to try to confirm. Send a text message, put
Speaker 5: that person on hold, stall them, and call the person
Speaker 5: directly on a number that you know to be able
Speaker 5: to confirm is this real? We are in a world
Speaker 5: where you, unfortunately have to assume it's not true before
Speaker 5: you do something and act swiftly in the wrong manner.
Speaker 1: What about sitting down with someone who might be a
Speaker 1: parent or a grandparent, if if they're still in your life,
Speaker 1: and you say, look, this is out there. It's more
Speaker 1: prevalent than what it was. What you just suggested, Ted,
Speaker 1: I think is phenomenal. But if you ever get a
Speaker 1: phone call from me, I will use a quote unquote
Speaker 1: word or phrase so you know it's really from me.
Speaker 2: What about something like that?
Speaker 5: I think that that is a great technique, and obviously
Speaker 5: education is portant, right, you know, I've had conversation with
Speaker 5: my father and my mother who are still alive but
Speaker 5: are aging to say, you are not going to get
Speaker 5: a call from you know, a situation like that, It's
Speaker 5: highly unlikely. And then you've got to rally people that
Speaker 5: are loved ones around them to help coach because you're
Speaker 5: exactly right, they are are falling subject to this simply
Speaker 5: because it's new, because it is really really good, the
Speaker 5: technology is making it really believable, and just because unfortunately
Speaker 5: they're vulnerable. So we have to protect our elderly and
Speaker 5: the older generation that just isn't used to this technology.
Speaker 2: You know, we've said we've seen.
Speaker 1: It in in politics, I mean President Biden's voice clone,
Speaker 1: fake robo calls in during the primary season, there was
Speaker 1: a fake Kamala Harris ad that featured a phony voice,
Speaker 1: and celebrities too that have been been scammed because of this.
Speaker 1: So I guess the question is what can you do?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's literally, I mean you're having a conversation
Speaker 1: with me right now, Ted, and somebody says, ah, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna screw Ted. I'm going to grab
Speaker 1: his voice from this interview and I'm going to use
Speaker 1: it for some nefarious reason. How do you stop it.
Speaker 5: You don't, unfortunately, And you know, I was actually thinking
Speaker 5: as you were saying, Ken, I was sort of laughing
Speaker 5: myself of how do we even know we're talking to
Speaker 5: each other for real?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: We live unfortunately in a world that is that it's
Speaker 5: that confusing. So you've got to try to build your
Speaker 5: own story, right. So if I saw something or someone
Speaker 5: saw something that was my words or in your case,
Speaker 5: your words, if we were using you as an example,
Speaker 5: we have to look at some of our past historical
Speaker 5: characters to say, does this sound like something they would do?
Speaker 5: So we're trying to develop a story. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: always trying to strike a balance of putting too much
Speaker 5: information out there versus just the right amount. But what
Speaker 5: I want to do is tell a story so that
Speaker 5: if something were to happen like that, you could go
Speaker 5: back and see what. I look at the character of
Speaker 5: this person and it doesn't seem to allie. So you
Speaker 5: want to try to tell the narrative more now than ever,
Speaker 5: because you don't want the narrative told in a way
Speaker 5: that is really determined or harmful to you. And that's
Speaker 5: that's a hard one. It's a really hard one to balance.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do a primer for anybody that's
Speaker 1: out there wondering, hey, how can I get it on
Speaker 1: this action?
Speaker 2: But how does it work? Do you have to you have.
Speaker 1: To buy a an AI piece of software. I mean
Speaker 1: chat GPT was out there for a while and now
Speaker 1: there are several others that are out there.
Speaker 2: But how is it done?
Speaker 5: There are software that's out there, and what you do
Speaker 5: is simply uploaded recordings of persons voices. You can also
Speaker 5: do it with face. The challenge I think is these
Speaker 5: companies are not putting in a way currently and I
Speaker 5: hope that that changes soon. The way to really confirm
Speaker 5: that you have permission. We're about to do an AI
Speaker 5: event where I asked the person permission to be able
Speaker 5: to clone their voice and image as part of the presentation,
Speaker 5: and they gave me permission. But there's nothing other than
Speaker 5: the ethical responsibility that required me to do that. We
Speaker 5: need these software companies to require it. You shouldn't be
Speaker 5: allowed or be able to upload anybody's voice or picture
Speaker 5: or video without their permission. Now, unfortunately, in the dark web,
Speaker 5: criminals don't really care about that. So we have that
Speaker 5: challenge as well to battle. But for sure, we want
Speaker 5: organizations to require some form of identity or some for
Speaker 5: permission before you're just able to use my voice or
Speaker 5: your voice.
Speaker 1: And again, listening to what you just said, it kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me about Internet, Facebook, and X or anything else.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are not a lot of guardrails on
Speaker 1: any of those. Well, there are more guardrails now than
Speaker 1: what there were when they first came into existence, where
Speaker 1: you could say virtually anything up there about any one
Speaker 1: because they were not subject to the same kind of
Speaker 1: scrutiny as over the air networks or even cable television networks.
Speaker 2: The FCC.
Speaker 1: Limited of any control over these social media platforms when
Speaker 1: they first came out. So I'm just thinking when you're
Speaker 1: saying that that the legal challenges to companies like we
Speaker 1: just mentioned, I would imagine those companies would fight back
Speaker 1: tooth and nail on anything that would be brought before
Speaker 1: them in terms of a lawsuit or government action to
Speaker 1: try and put in these guardrails. I don't think they'll
Speaker 1: go quietly into the night, do you.
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I think we have some ethical
Speaker 5: responsibilities though, as society to help put these guardrails in
Speaker 5: and help really work alongside them. We want the technology,
Speaker 5: we want it in a way that's safe and protective.
Speaker 5: Generative AI really changed everything when it hit the wild
Speaker 5: two or three years ago, mostly with chat TBT, but
Speaker 5: now you have a players in the mix. It has
Speaker 5: allowed us to do things that the speed and only
Speaker 5: thought was not possible as of five to seven years ago.
Speaker 5: I still remember our certified fical hacker telling me probably
Speaker 5: seven or eight years ago, if you have a fifteen
Speaker 5: character password, they'll take eight hundred thousand years to crack,
Speaker 5: and things of that nature. They're not true anymore. They
Speaker 5: are not true anymore. The things they are possible now
Speaker 5: are just they're really blowing our minds, and we need
Speaker 5: to be able to manage it in a way to
Speaker 5: protect people.
Speaker 1: But the conundrum is is we can do that or
Speaker 1: try to do that in the United States put in
Speaker 1: these guardrails, but there's no guarantee that you know, these
Speaker 1: these these AI companies in China or India or anyplace
Speaker 1: else will play along with us. It's like the great
Speaker 1: It's like it's like clean air. You know, we can
Speaker 1: have the cleanest air in the United States, but if
Speaker 1: other industrial nations aren't playing the same game. It really
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what kind of air we have here in
Speaker 1: the United States. Same way with this, Now we can
Speaker 1: put in all these guardrails and have all of these
Speaker 1: responsibilities that these companies take on through good practices and
Speaker 1: things like that. But you and I both know you
Speaker 1: mentioned the dark web. It's I'm not even talking about
Speaker 1: the dark Web. I'm talking about companies based in foreign
Speaker 1: countries like China and India. So how do we combat that.
Speaker 5: I think that you try to set up walls and boundaries.
Speaker 5: I've spoken to a few different people over the past
Speaker 5: couple of months about deep Seak, which is the Chinese
Speaker 5: AI company that really came in and rippled our economy
Speaker 5: just for a couple of days, just with some fear
Speaker 5: and doubt. But I'm not sure why we need to
Speaker 5: utilize a tool like that in the United States when
Speaker 5: we have our own tools. And so I think we
Speaker 5: want to look at that approach to say, Okay, let's
Speaker 5: use the tools that are being built inside of America's
Speaker 5: fortress and let's better those. And then unfortunately, we are
Speaker 5: going to have to try to create some cyber walls
Speaker 5: to be able to regulate what's coming in and out.
Speaker 5: Aside from the dark web, We've got to have a
Speaker 5: way to say, Okay, this meets the standards that we
Speaker 5: believe it needs to meet in order to even communicate.
Speaker 5: And I'm not necessarily suggesting that we should go as
Speaker 5: far as as China goes, but I know I was
Speaker 5: in China last year and it's it's its own closed network, right,
Speaker 5: It's not as open as we're used to, and we
Speaker 5: have to look at least some measure of that.
Speaker 1: Ted Klaus are our guests, and we're talking about deep
Speaker 1: fake cybersecurity and also these granny scams that are going
Speaker 1: on where people are being duped by AI and these
Speaker 1: these fake calls that mirror the person on the other
Speaker 1: end that sounds like a you know, a loved one
Speaker 1: or a father or a son or a grandson or
Speaker 1: something like that. Ted, by the way, technology and cybersecurity expert,
Speaker 1: and you can find them at PCA tech Solutions dot com.
Speaker 1: PCA tech Solutions dot com. Okay, bottom line to all
Speaker 1: of this, I guessed Ted, is you know, sit down
Speaker 1: and talk, you know, talk about father to mother to
Speaker 1: son and daughter, father and mother to grandson to whatever
Speaker 1: it may be. Just have a conversation that this is
Speaker 1: out there. If there's really a problem that you're in,
Speaker 1: we either use a phrase or a word.
Speaker 2: Or you know.
Speaker 1: Just as you mentioned, I think it's great put the
Speaker 1: call on hold and call me back on my cell
Speaker 1: to see if this is exactly what's going on. I
Speaker 1: think that's the bottom line. You got to be proactive,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what you're.
Speaker 5: Espousing absolutely, And I love the code word. I think
Speaker 5: it's a great discussion to have around the dinner table
Speaker 5: and really protect the entire family.
Speaker 1: Ted, good stuff. Thanks for the info and good luck
Speaker 1: trying to keep us all safe.
Speaker 2: We appreciate it, my pleasure.
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: There, you go, Ted Klauser.
Speaker 1: But it's true, I mean, and it does target the
Speaker 1: older demo sixty five plus because I mean, let's face it,
Speaker 1: the sixty five seventy eighty year old crowd, they're not
Speaker 1: as tech savvy as the younger. It's just the way
Speaker 1: it is. It's what happens you get older. You really
Speaker 1: don't want to get too involved in something that's new.
Speaker 1: Somebody else will take care of it for me, whatever.
Speaker 2: It may be.
Speaker 1: And that's where the majority of people are getting duped.
Speaker 1: But again AI is great, use the right way. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: there are no guardrails for it yet in this country.
Speaker 1: And this is one of the fallout from that two
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Speaker 9: There has been thought, I believe given to this. Senator
Speaker 9: Ron Wyden has already issued statements, for example, advising what
Speaker 9: we should do in situation like this, which I concur
Speaker 9: which is that I believe that the Biden administration should
Speaker 9: ignore this ruling. I think that we know the courts
Speaker 9: have the legitimacy and they rely on the legitimacy of
Speaker 9: their rulings, and what they are currently doing is engaged
Speaker 9: in an unprecedented and dramatic erosion of the legiti see
Speaker 9: of the courts. It is the justices themselves, through the
Speaker 9: deeply partisan and unfounded nature of these rulings, that are
Speaker 9: undermining their own enforcements.
Speaker 1: So what you're saying the Biden administration should ignored this court,
Speaker 1: But what does that look like?
Speaker 2: What does that actually mean?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 9: I think the interesting thing when it comes to a
Speaker 9: ruling is that it relies on enforcement, and it is
Speaker 9: up to the Biden administration to enforce, to choose whether
Speaker 9: or not to enforce such a ruling.
Speaker 2: But is that.
Speaker 10: Hello, Ban, I'm broadcasting, so have you ever ignored a
Speaker 10: court ruling?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: No, But I guess that's the reason why I guess
Speaker 2: Biden lost. Whatever that lady was saying, I have no
Speaker 2: idea what that was. A word salad city with a
Speaker 2: French dressing on it or something. What the heck oh
Speaker 2: is she said? AOC? It's another one of those.
Speaker 1: Knitwith talk shows that are on cable TV. I don't
Speaker 1: pay any attention to those things. And you know what,
Speaker 1: everybody's up in arms about Trump and he you know,
Speaker 1: divided some some judge in a district in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: You know what, it's happened before, It's gonna happen again. Right,
Speaker 1: they'll get in front of it. They'll He'll send his
Speaker 1: lawyers up there to peer in front of this guy
Speaker 1: on Friday.
Speaker 2: This guy will yell and.
Speaker 1: Scream and the Loyals will defend Trump and it's going to.
Speaker 2: Go nowhere, correct nowhere?
Speaker 1: And then you know, Trump says, well, look, get to
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Well, John Roberts hates Donald Trump. You
Speaker 1: know he ha't Donald Trump because Trump put him through
Speaker 1: two impeachments when he was present, he didn't want, didn't
Speaker 1: want anything to do with it, particularly the one time
Speaker 1: where he had to actually leave the Supreme Court and
Speaker 1: go into the Capitol and sit there and do do
Speaker 1: a job.
Speaker 2: Remember he had to sit there and do a job.
Speaker 2: Those guys make, those guys got it made, you know.
Speaker 1: And all he wanted to do at that point was,
Speaker 1: you know, go out for a cocktail and then go
Speaker 1: to one of those Washington DC parties that I absolutely
Speaker 1: loathed when I lived there.
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Speaker 2: The Reds Update. The Reds will be out to snap
Speaker 2: that seven game Cactus League losing streak today, ken Brew. Yes,
Speaker 2: against those Angels three point five coming up with the Angels,
Speaker 2: don't hit are no Angels? Three thirty five of the
Speaker 2: Arnell carriers inside pitch, you're on seven hundred WLW. Then
Speaker 2: after the game, Yeah, it's the Hot Stove League. Tell
Speaker 2: you you got baseball, baseball, and baseball all afternoon and
Speaker 2: into the early evening.
Speaker 1: So they're going to do the game out there, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden the game ends and they
Speaker 1: sit there and they do the hot Steve.
Speaker 2: Lake from out there. Ain't got nothing else to do.
Speaker 2: What are they going to do?
Speaker 1: Right? They don't care? Right, they don't What are they going.
Speaker 6: To do about Cincinnati?
Speaker 2: What a team?
Speaker 1: I don't think so back, okay, but what are they
Speaker 1: going to do Otherwise? They're out there, they go find
Speaker 1: a cactus and look at it. Of course they're going
Speaker 1: to do the inside pitch him out there.
Speaker 2: I think that's what YID does. NCAA Tournament Update brought
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Speaker 1: Hey, seg I got something. Can you listen to this
Speaker 1: for me?
Speaker 2: Go ahead? We know this song little musical interlude.
Speaker 1: Uh, this is Maroon five from two thousand and four,
Speaker 1: duty Queen of You know who the lead singer was, right,
Speaker 1: Adam Levine? Yes, about to say that he's on one
Speaker 1: of those shows where they judge people singing and things
Speaker 1: like that voice or something.
Speaker 2: The boys they got too many of those shows.
Speaker 1: Got talent. I got talent American Idol seventy five thousand
Speaker 1: or something like that. Anyway, Adam Levine today turns forty
Speaker 1: six years old.
Speaker 2: Dude looking forty six years How about that ken Brew
Speaker 2: good singer.
Speaker 1: They were hot there for a while about twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: Yes, they were.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're that hot right now, but you
Speaker 1: know they're one of those acts that can go on
Speaker 1: the road and get a crowd.
Speaker 2: Xavier in Texas tomorrow night, Longhorns and Muskies. Do you
Speaker 2: think they're war A Dayton? I think no, Yeah, she
Speaker 2: will be loves. I think that's what they're doing. I
Speaker 2: just wanted to point that out that he's forty six
Speaker 2: years old. Please continue, okay, and the action will be
Speaker 2: right here on seven underd WLW. Those Bearcats, Yes, we're
Speaker 2: in the postseason ken Brew Las Vegas, April first, there
Speaker 2: a new college basketball crown tourney.
Speaker 1: They were out the door and down the street to
Speaker 1: see that tournament.
Speaker 2: Bearcats and DePaul the Blue Demons more than I we
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Speaker 2: So Dayton, go ahead, let me get this straight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, after the n i T crowns its championship, right champion, yep,
Speaker 1: And in the middle of the NCAA tournament crowning it's champion,
Speaker 1: right A tournament begins correct in Las Vegas? That would
Speaker 1: be if I'm not mistaken. That's one week after the
Speaker 1: transfer portal, which.
Speaker 2: Means they may not have enough players. They might not
Speaker 2: have enough players to play. They may pull a marshall
Speaker 2: like the Dallas Mavericks. What they may have to forfeit.
Speaker 2: They don't have enough players right, well of them are hurt.
Speaker 2: I'm just put the portal is open.
Speaker 1: Who to say any of these teams that are playing
Speaker 1: at that time would have enough players to go out
Speaker 1: there and play in.
Speaker 2: Something like that. We'll see. These are questions that need
Speaker 2: to be asked. Sick Well. The Dayton Flyers are on
Speaker 2: the road tomorrow night, Ken Brew and Mike McConnell at
Speaker 2: Florida State in the first round of the n I
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Speaker 2: by private plane just a little while ago, Oh, Jamar
Speaker 2: Chase T. Higgins at the airport. They're on their way
Speaker 2: with Ted McKay to sign their Monster contract extensions.
Speaker 1: So they were somewhere. They're not from the same area
Speaker 1: of the world, so they like were on vacation with
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 2: I don't know they got they got off this private
Speaker 2: plane together, so I don't know. Yeah, three point thirty
Speaker 2: is the big press conference, forty five minutes from now.
Speaker 2: It's going to be on ESPN fifteen thirty. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 2: listen to this seg go ahead, remember this song. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna play this song for you, Remember Elvis? Yeah, in
Speaker 2: Love the King, you got a birthday today?
Speaker 1: No, the guy that wrote this song was a guy
Speaker 1: named Dennis Linde. He actually plays the guitar at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the song Burning Love, and had he been
Speaker 1: alive today, he'd be eighty two years old, but he
Speaker 1: croaked back in two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: All right, how about that. You could win a barber
Speaker 2: with that man. You know kids Dennis Lynn. I was
Speaker 2: watching the other night ken Brew and w ce T. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all those they bring, they have those sick you know,
Speaker 2: they they try to get you. You know, they sit
Speaker 2: there and have those CDs and DVDs of you know,
Speaker 2: great artists from the past. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean that,
Speaker 2: you know that brings back some memories to me. I
Speaker 2: mean those shows are geared towards like the over eighty
Speaker 2: crowd does an That's why I'm watching. Well, I think
Speaker 2: those people just scream from getting up there.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm not sure anybody buys those things.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but anybody under the pretty remarkable to
Speaker 2: see some of those people still. I mean, Frankie Valley
Speaker 2: was on there. He's won like one hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: five years old, and he's belting it out like as nothing. No,
Speaker 2: I mean Frankie for Frankie is still there. I think
Speaker 2: he's coming to town. Hollywood Casino. Yeah, yeah, a couple
Speaker 2: on stage. He's eighty something. Swear to god, he'd be
Speaker 2: out there. They'll be singing it. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: By the way, if Elvis was alive today, what am
Speaker 1: I saying? Of course he's alive today, he's he just
Speaker 1: turned ninety. How about that turn ninety out there in Encino, California.
Speaker 2: I bet you he would still be on stage. Ken Bruce,
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those jumpsuits, all those.
Speaker 2: Look at all these other bands that are like the
Speaker 2: final tour, Well they come back, what three four months later,
Speaker 2: We're going to have another tour, and another one and
Speaker 2: another one.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The problem with Elvis is his final tour was in
Speaker 1: his bathroom.
Speaker 2: That's where Elvis fright. Final final concert was in Marcus
Speaker 2: Square Arena in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Right, and the night before they were in Cincinnati. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's true. Oh yeah, Seg, all these this information were
Speaker 1: else are you going to get it besides right here?
Speaker 2: Well you're the music man, you're the musical genius. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, Seg, they got to sign guards right. The
Speaker 2: Bengals have got two wide receivers. They had to keep
Speaker 2: those two guys because they had to keep Burrow happy,
Speaker 2: and they got to You got to keep your best players.
Speaker 2: And you think they're going to keep Hendrickson now, well,
Speaker 2: I think they have to. That's true. I think they
Speaker 2: do too.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem is this team doesn't historically draft very well.
Speaker 1: For every Joe Burrow, there's a Jackson Carman, you know.
Speaker 1: And they only have six draft picks this year. So
Speaker 1: if they don't sign Trey Hendrickson, they got six draft
Speaker 1: picks to get a couple of safeties, a couple of linebackers,
Speaker 1: couple of guards, and another edge rusher.
Speaker 2: They better choose, but choose wisely.
Speaker 1: If they do trade Trey Hendrickson, they'll get draft picks,
Speaker 1: extra draft picks, correct, But they knew they would still
Speaker 1: have yet another hole in their lineup with him.
Speaker 2: So there is that conundrum. Well, unless they bring out
Speaker 2: the green salad of salvation to somebody, ken Brew, Well,
Speaker 2: there's you know a free agency.
Speaker 1: You know, you got all those players tying up a
Speaker 1: lot of your your cash right there. That's true, right,
Speaker 1: But the other thing, nothing matters unless Joe Burrow stays
Speaker 1: on his feet, right, am?
Speaker 2: I right about this? That's correct.
Speaker 1: If Joe Burrow is constantly on his back looking up at.
Speaker 2: The stars, not good, not happening.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: The other problem to seg is they're bringing back the band.
Speaker 1: They're just rounded up the band from last year, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't good enough last year. So that this is
Speaker 1: the conundrum that they have themselves in. Everybody's running around.
Speaker 1: Oh they got Higgins, they got Chase. Hey, watch out now,
Speaker 1: Well hang on a second, cowboy, it's which you had
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 2: And another thing is you can't get oh to three
Speaker 2: at the start of the season.
Speaker 1: Well maybe that's their philosophy. You know, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: how much money we spend as as long as we
Speaker 1: start better than we have historically under Zach Taylor they've
Speaker 1: been they don't get it going until what about the
Speaker 1: third or fourth game of the season, and by then.
Speaker 2: They wake up your down October. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So I'm just saying, I mean, I'm one who
Speaker 1: is is you know? I've said, you know, you got
Speaker 1: to get your best players, you got to keep your
Speaker 1: best players. But your best players last year weren't good enough,
Speaker 1: so you got to you gotta go out there and
Speaker 1: and spend to make sure that what you couldn't do
Speaker 1: last year, which was in most cases block tackle, you
Speaker 1: got to get better at that.
Speaker 2: Right, That's true. You're right, and the end of story. Yep,
Speaker 2: am I tried. I'm just trying to be realistic about this.
Speaker 2: I know where you're coming from.
Speaker 1: Well, I hope so. I'm glad somebody does so.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right? Is that it is sports? I think so,
Speaker 2: ken Brew. Nothing else going on, not that I know of.
Speaker 1: Well, is it possible, you know, as likely as I
Speaker 1: think it might be, it might be unlikely for you
Speaker 1: to get us out of the Stewge Report.
Speaker 2: Ken Brew, and honor of a beautiful day here in
Speaker 2: the tri State in March Madness. The tournament begins tonight.
Speaker 2: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stewed Report. Hey,
Speaker 2: thanks for having me on, guys. I've checked the deels
Speaker 2: and ratings, and it's about time you had me back
Speaker 2: instead of them battle out Mouse you've had on the
Speaker 2: past couple of weeks. So more because the people love
Speaker 2: the Wizard, you know what I'm saying. I'll see you
Speaker 2: guys later.
Speaker 1: Wow, you know they do they do these these ratings
Speaker 1: you know segan show late night.
Speaker 2: It was late night.
Speaker 1: They do these ratings and they break it down demographically,
Speaker 1: like you know, women twenty five to sixty four, men
Speaker 1: eighteen to forty nine and all that, they break it
Speaker 1: all down. We were extremely popular with people that were
Speaker 1: sitting on their couch eating Dorito's and smoking bloods. We
Speaker 1: were number one in our time period.
Speaker 2: And we thanked them for watching.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean because we played right into what
Speaker 1: their wheelhouse was all.
Speaker 2: About it and how many sales of Channel five did
Speaker 2: you get through that a lot? By the show's still on. Well,
Speaker 2: you know they think, no, it's not, No, it's not
Speaker 2: on No.
Speaker 6: One.
Speaker 1: No, I left Channel five. They canceled the thing. I
Speaker 1: think the minute those were the day you know.
Speaker 2: What they had to bring that, Yeah, you had to
Speaker 2: play the best. They had to have the best of
Speaker 2: sports rock right on Channel five.
Speaker 1: Right exactly on me TV right because that's what Channel
Speaker 1: five wants to do is put me on the air
Speaker 1: on that channel again. Yeah, that's there. They're just waiting
Speaker 1: for the day of.
Speaker 2: For that to put it on late after spend gold
Speaker 2: years those monster.
Speaker 1: Movies, all right, seg I need to I'll be back in.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell's happening tomorrow, but i'll
Speaker 1: be back on Thursday. All right, be back in and
Speaker 1: talk to you on Thursday. You'll be here on Thursday,
Speaker 1: I'll be here. Well, let's be thankful for the little
Speaker 1: things in life.
Speaker 2: Yes weekday, sig, same to you, can brew, talk to
Speaker 2: you later.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, we are now just eight minutes away and
Speaker 1: change from the hour of three o'clock on news radio
Speaker 1: seven hundred WYLW