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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to imagine, just for a second, that

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<v Speaker 2>you are standing in a dry, freezing, just incredibly dusty

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<v Speaker 2>crater on another planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, an absolutely brutal environment.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. The sky above you isn't blue. It's this hazy

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<v Speaker 2>butterscotch color tinted by all that iron oxide dust just

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<v Speaker 2>suspended in the thin air, right, And the atmosphere is

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<v Speaker 2>so wispy, I mean, it's mostly carbon dioxide, less than

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<v Speaker 2>one percent the density of Earth's You couldn't breathe it

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<v Speaker 2>even if it magically filled with oxygen right then and there.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you'd suffocate immediately and freeze.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, freeze. Because the temperature is hovering somewhere around eighty

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<v Speaker 2>degrees below zero. There is no sound but this thin wind.

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<v Speaker 2>It is utterly barren, like a sterile desert, right, but

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<v Speaker 2>then you kneel down, you brush away that rusty red

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<v Speaker 2>top layer of dirt you screep just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of inches into the rock beneath and staring

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<v Speaker 2>back at you are the very chemical building blocks of DNA.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it sounds like the opening scene of a

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<v Speaker 3>science fiction novel right where the protagonist makes this impossible discovery.

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<v Speaker 2>It really does.

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<v Speaker 3>But we are looking at hard, peer reviewed reality today,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a reality that completely shatters our previous assumptions

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<v Speaker 3>about the chemistry of our solar.

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<v Speaker 2>System because the surf on is basically a death zone exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>We already know the Martian surface is essentially a sterilization

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<v Speaker 3>engine unshielded UV radiation, and these highly reactive chemicals in

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<v Speaker 3>the soil called perchlorates, well, they usually tear organic bonds

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<v Speaker 3>apart in a matter of months, let alone millennia, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes this monumental. And that's our mission today to really

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<v Speaker 2>explore this. We are talking about NASA's Curiosity Mars rover, right,

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<v Speaker 2>this car sized nuclear powered laboratory that has managed to

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<v Speaker 2>pull off something planetary scientists have dreamed of for decades.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an incredible engineering feature.

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<v Speaker 2>In a specific spot on the Martian surface. This rover

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<v Speaker 2>has successfully uncovered a diverse mix of never before seen

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<v Speaker 2>organic molecules and yes, that includes the literal precursors to DNA.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it is impossible to overstate how thrilling this is.

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<v Speaker 2>We are looking at the potential seeds of life sitting

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<v Speaker 2>right there in the dirt of our neighboring planet.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the kind of discovery that forces you to look

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<v Speaker 2>up at the night sky and just realize how incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>dynamic our universe actually is.

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<v Speaker 3>The thrill is absolutely justified. I agree, though, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we have to tamper that excitement just a

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<v Speaker 3>bit by grounding ourselves in the sheer, staggering time scale

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<v Speaker 3>of what we are analyzing.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, right, the three point five billion years part.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. The true marvel here isn't just the inventory of

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<v Speaker 3>what the rover found, is the fact that these complex

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<v Speaker 3>molecular structures survived at.

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<v Speaker 2>All because Mars doesn't have a magnetic field like we do.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. Mars is a giant, unshielded radiation chamber. It lacks

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<v Speaker 3>a global magnetic field to deflect galactic cosmic rays and

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<v Speaker 3>solar energetic particles. Just relentlessly bombard the surface. Wow, Ionizing

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<v Speaker 3>radiation functions like a like a microscopic wrecking ball, systematically

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<v Speaker 3>smashing into complex molecules and breaking their delicate carbon bonds

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<v Speaker 3>over deep time.

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<v Speaker 2>Just constantly chipping away at them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly so. Finding intact macromolecules that endure this bootle

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<v Speaker 3>environment for billions of years completely redefines our baseline understanding

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<v Speaker 3>of planetary preservation models.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me stop you there, because that immediately raises

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<v Speaker 2>a massive question. Sure, if the surface is a sterilization

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<v Speaker 2>engine and cosmic rays are acting like microscopic wrecking balls

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<v Speaker 2>for three and a half billion years, how on Earth,

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<v Speaker 2>or rather how on Mars did anything survive?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? It seems impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>It defies logic, which means we have to look at

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<v Speaker 2>the exact spot where the rover parked. Right. Curiosity didn't just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, stumble upon these fragile molecules randomly while rolling

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<v Speaker 2>across the dunes.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all. Survival in that kind of environment

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<v Speaker 3>is never random. If Curiosity had parked a few miles away,

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<v Speaker 3>we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, really, just a few miles.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a few miles the rover had to find a

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<v Speaker 3>very specific geologic vault. Curiosity landed in Gale Crater back

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<v Speaker 3>in August of twenty twelve. And Gale Crater is this

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<v Speaker 3>massive impact basin formed billions of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And it used to be a lake, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we are fairly certain it hosted an ancient, long

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<v Speaker 3>lived lake system. But the specific samples we were dissecting

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<v Speaker 3>today weren't taken in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they weren't.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they weren't taken in twenty fourteen or twenty sixteen either.

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<v Speaker 3>The rover had to meticulously climb the foothills of the

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<v Speaker 3>crater's central peak, Mount Sharp. It took it till twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>when it finally drove into a highly specialized region called

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<v Speaker 3>Glenn Torden.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's unpack this. Glenn Torden isn't just another patch

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<v Speaker 2>of rusty terrain, is it not?

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<v Speaker 3>At all? The rover specifically targeted a clay bearing unit

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<v Speaker 3>within this region, which the science team nicknamed Mary anning Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>After the nineteenth century English palaeontologists who discovered Jurassic marine

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<v Speaker 2>fossil beds.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and calling it a clay bearing unit is the

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<v Speaker 3>absolute crux of this entire story, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Clay is special. I like to think of this specific

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<v Speaker 2>Martian clay as like cosmic tupperware.

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<v Speaker 3>Cosmic tupperware. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a geologic container ceiling in the chemical freshness

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<v Speaker 2>of Mars from three and a half billion years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>just completely locking out the destructive, irradiated environment of the surface.

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<v Speaker 3>That analogy holds up surprisingly well under microscopic scrutiny. Actually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>when we talk about clay implanetary science, we aren't just

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<v Speaker 3>talking about you know, wet mud. We are talking about phylicilicates,

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<v Speaker 3>smecktight clays, specifically.

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<v Speaker 2>Smack tighte clays. Okay, what makes them so good at

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<v Speaker 2>being tupperware?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, on a molecular level, these clays are structured in

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly tight microscopic layers, almost like the pages of a

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<v Speaker 3>tightly bound book.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>When liquid water flows through volcanic rock over long periods

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<v Speaker 3>of time, it chemically alters the primary minerals like olivine

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<v Speaker 3>and pyroxene into these layered silicates.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So the water changes the.

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<v Speaker 3>Rock, right, and when that alteration happens, organic chemicals flowing

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<v Speaker 3>in that water can essentially get trapped right between these

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<v Speaker 2>So the clay physically swallows the organics like it just

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<v Speaker 2>traps them inside the pages of the book.

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<v Speaker 3>It traps them, yes, but it also chemically binds them.

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<v Speaker 3>The surfaces of these clay layers have slight electrical charges

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<v Speaker 3>that hold onto organic molecules.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, so it's not just a physical box. It's

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<v Speaker 2>grabbing onto them exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The clay minerals act as heavy duty protective vaults. They

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<v Speaker 3>physically shield the trapped organics from the ionizing radiation raining

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<v Speaker 3>down from space, and they protect them from the chemical

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<v Speaker 3>oxide driven by the perchlorids on the surface.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes total sense.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to find preserved organics on a dead world,

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<v Speaker 3>you follow the clay. This actually circles directly back to

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<v Speaker 3>Curiosity's original mission.

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<v Speaker 2>Mandate, right, because people forget that goal wasn't to find

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<v Speaker 2>little green men.

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<v Speaker 3>No, when the rover launched in twenty eleven, its primary

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<v Speaker 3>goal wasn't to find living microbes. The goal was to

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<v Speaker 3>find evidence that ancient Mars had the specific environmental conditions

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<v Speaker 3>that could have supported microbial life billions of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Ago, right, the habitability factor. But I'm looking at this

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<v Speaker 2>finding and my immediate thought is, Okay, we know Gale

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<v Speaker 2>Crater was a massive lake. Yes, we know glenn Torden

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<v Speaker 2>is full of clay formed by water interacting with rock.

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<v Speaker 2>So water was clearly present for a massive stretch of

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<v Speaker 2>time denied. But does water automatically equal a habitable environment?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know we have places on Earth like certain

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<v Speaker 2>ultra acidic volcanic lakes or highly irradiated zones that have

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<v Speaker 2>water but are completely devoid of life.

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<v Speaker 3>You're hitting on the critical distinction that drives astrobiology. Water

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<v Speaker 3>is the solvent necessary for life as we know it,

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<v Speaker 3>but it is entirely insufficient on its own right.

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<v Speaker 2>Just having a glass of water doesn't mean something can

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<v Speaker 2>live in it exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>To declare an environment truly habitable, you need a confluence

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<v Speaker 3>of three major pillars.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what are the three?

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<v Speaker 3>First, you need that liquid water solvent. Second, you need

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<v Speaker 3>an energy source to drive metabolism like sunlight sunlight for photosynthesis,

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<v Speaker 3>sure or chemical gradients and geothermal heat for chemosynthesis like

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<v Speaker 3>we see in deep ocean hydrothermal vents here on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so water and energy, what's a third?

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<v Speaker 3>And third? You need the elemental building blocks of life which,

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<v Speaker 3>as scientists often abbreviate as hnopshnops.

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<v Speaker 2>That's carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you got it. The clay in Gale Crater proved

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<v Speaker 3>the long standing water pillar, but to prove full habitability,

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<v Speaker 3>Curiosity had to definitively find those complex Organicsware is useless

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<v Speaker 3>and find it completely empty.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, which brings us to an absolutely massive engineering nightmare. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a nightmare, because finding the ultimate cosmic tupperware

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<v Speaker 2>is a triumph in itself. We sent a robot tens

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<v Speaker 2>of millions of miles, landed it via a sky crane,

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<v Speaker 2>which is still insane to me, and drove it for

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<v Speaker 2>seven years to find this specific mudstone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>But figuring out how to pop the lid open right

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<v Speaker 2>to crack into those microscopic clay vaults and read the

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<v Speaker 2>chemical signatures inside that required one of the most high

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<v Speaker 2>stakes limited resource experiments in the entire history of space exploration.

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<v Speaker 3>The sheer audacity the engineering required to achieve this is

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<v Speaker 3>just staggering. To pop that lid, The rover utilized an

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<v Speaker 3>onboard instrument suite called SAM.

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<v Speaker 2>SAM that stands for Sample Analysis of Mars.

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<v Speaker 3>Right exactly, and this particular highly specialized experiment was led

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<v Speaker 3>in part by astrobiologist Jennifer Eigenbrode at NASA's Goddard Space

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<v Speaker 3>Flight Center. Okay, now SAM isn't just a single it's

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<v Speaker 3>effectively a miniaturized analytical chemistry lab tucked right inside the

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<v Speaker 3>belly of the rover.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a full lab shrunked down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it contains a gas chromatograph, a quadrupole mass s pectrometer,

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<v Speaker 3>and a tunable laser spectrometer.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a lot of fancy equipment in a small box,

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<v Speaker 3>But this specific dig at mary Anning wasn't a standard

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<v Speaker 3>run of the mill SAM test. To coax these complex

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<v Speaker 3>organics out of their clay vaults without destroying them in

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<v Speaker 3>the process, the team had to use a highly specialized

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<v Speaker 3>chemical region called TMAH.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay TMAH tetra misleamonium hydroxide for the organic chemists listening

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<v Speaker 2>who love a mouthful of syllables, that's the one.

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<v Speaker 3>And to understand why TMAH is so crucial, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to understand how SAM normally operates.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, how does it normally check the dirt.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually the rover's robotic arm drills into a rock, collects

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<v Speaker 3>a powdered sample, and drops it into a tiny quartz

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>The instrument then heats that dirt up to roughly eight

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<v Speaker 2>Eight hundred degrees.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have to interject here because heating Martian dirt

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds counterintuitive. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>If I take a complex organic structure, like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>it with eight hundred degrees of heat, I don't get gas.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. It's not a flaw, but it is the fundamental

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<v Speaker 3>the early two thousands. Okay, and you are entirely correct

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<v Speaker 3>about the chemistry. Large complex organic molecules, especially ones that

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<v Speaker 3>have already been battered by cosmic radiation. They do not easily.

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<v Speaker 2>Volatilize, meaning they don't turn into gas neatly exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>They degrade, they fracture, They turn it into a morphous

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<v Speaker 3>carbon or char. When Sam bakes them, normally, the mass

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<v Speaker 3>spectrometer often just sees carbon dioxide, water vapor coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Off, just the smoke.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically yeah, yeah, the ghostly combusted remains of what used

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<v Speaker 3>to be a complex organic molecule. The instrument knows something

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<v Speaker 3>organic was there, but the original structure is completely lost

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<v Speaker 3>to the fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is exactly why they needed TMAH. So how does

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<v Speaker 2>this chemical stop the organics from burning into useless ash?

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<v Speaker 3>Thermo for heat, chemo for chemical, and lysis for breaking.

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<v Speaker 3>When TMH is missed with the Martian dirt and heated,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't just passively watch the molecules burn. It actively

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it goes on the offensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. TMAH is a strong base and it chemically fragments larger,

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<v Speaker 3>stubborn organic macromolecules. Into smaller manageable pieces. But crucial to

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<v Speaker 3>this process, it performs something called methylation. As it breaks

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<v Speaker 3>carbon atom attached to three hydrogen atoms and attaches them

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<v Speaker 3>to the broken highly reactive ends of the organic.

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<v Speaker 2>Fragments, so it caps them off so they don't burn.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, it protects them, allowing them to volatilize into gas

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<v Speaker 3>without turning into charcoal.

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<v Speaker 2>That is genius. But here's the part that stresses me

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<v Speaker 2>out just thinking about it. Imagine packing for a decade long,

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<v Speaker 2>multi million mile road trip across a hostile desert. Right, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're only allowed to bring exactly two fluid ounces

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good way to put it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you have a car sized robot roaming an entire

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<v Speaker 2>planet and it only had two tiny cups of this

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<v Speaker 2>liquid tma H chemical on board, two cups, two cups

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<v Speaker 2>for the entire multi year life span of the mission.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like reaching the final most difficult puzzle of a

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<v Speaker 2>vastly complex video game and realizing you only have a

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<v Speaker 2>single lock pick to open the most important safe on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you turn it too hard it snaps.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the physical constraints of spaceflight force these kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of impossible bottlenecks. When you're launching a payload to Mars,

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<v Speaker 3>every single gram is negotiated.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything costs fuel.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and liquids are exceptionally difficult to fly with. They

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<v Speaker 3>require sealed, pressurized containment systems that have to survive the violent,

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<v Speaker 3>bone rattling vibrations of launch, plus the cold, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the freezing vacuum of interplanetary transit, and then the fiery

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<v Speaker 3>deceleration of entering the Martian atmosphere. So yes, they only

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<v Speaker 3>had two cups. And because of that terrifying scarcity, the

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<v Speaker 3>patients required by the science team was just immense.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't imagine the tension you land in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you have this incredibly powerful chemical lock pick

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<v Speaker 2>in the rover's belly.

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<v Speaker 3>You just have to wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, How do planetary scientists handle the psychological pressure of

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that one wrong scoop of dirt wastes a decade

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<v Speaker 2>of waiting and searching a lot of pressure Because if

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<v Speaker 2>they drill a rock mix in the TMAH and it

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<v Speaker 2>turns out that specific rock was I don't know, too

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<v Speaker 2>highly oxidized or lacked the right smectite clays, or had

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<v Speaker 2>too much perchlorate. That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's game over for the lock pick.

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<v Speaker 2>You press enter on the code sending the command to Mars,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you just sit in a control room on Earth,

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<v Speaker 2>agonizing for the fourteen minute communication delay, waiting to see

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<v Speaker 2>if you blew your one and only chance.

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<v Speaker 3>They mitigate that pressure through a deeply exhausting, meticulous process

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<v Speaker 3>of elimination. They didn't just.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess, they couldn't afford to exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>From twenty twelve to twenty nineteen, as Curiosity traversed from

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<v Speaker 3>the Breadbury landing site through Yellowknife Bay and up the

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<v Speaker 3>slopes of Mount Sharp, the team continuously analyzed the mineralogy

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<v Speaker 3>of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>They passed, using the other tools.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, using the rovers, other instruments like chimin, which is

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<v Speaker 3>the chemistry of mineralogy X ray diffraction instrument. They were

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<v Speaker 3>constantly building a geological map, waiting for the absolute perfect,

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<v Speaker 3>most favorable location.

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<v Speaker 2>So they were passing up decent spots because they weren't perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, they pass up dozens of interesting sites. They're doing

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<v Speaker 3>sure the sample wasn't to acidic that the clay was

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<v Speaker 3>authogenic ophogenic.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>It means it formed in place in the lake, rather

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<v Speaker 3>than just being blown in by the wind from somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, And they got to make sure that the

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<v Speaker 3>radiation exposure was as low as possible. What's fascinating here

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<v Speaker 3>is that the legacy of the SAM instrument is really

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<v Speaker 2>They really knew what they were doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Even before this specific TMH experiment, SAM had already

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<v Speaker 3>revolutionized our understanding of Mars, quantifying the planet's atmospheric loss

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<v Speaker 3>and detecting the seasonal spikes of background methane.

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<v Speaker 2>But this was the main event. Mixing liquids with pulverized

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<v Speaker 2>extraterrestrial rock, heating it precisely to trigger methylation without causing combustion,

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<v Speaker 2>and analyzing the vaders at a molecular level, all happening

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<v Speaker 2>autonomously inside a robot millions of miles away. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>symphony of engineering, and the craziest part, it worked, It

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<v Speaker 2>actually worked. The team took their shot. In twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>they finally authorized the use of their precious TMAH on

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<v Speaker 2>the dirt pulled from the Marianning site in Glenn Torridon.

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<v Speaker 2>They baked it, the TMAH chemically capped the fragments, and

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<v Speaker 2>the mass spectrometer readouts that beamed back to Earth exceeded

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<v Speaker 2>their wildest expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a watershed moment for astrobiology. The data analysis

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<v Speaker 3>of this specific experiment was led by Amy Williams, a

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<v Speaker 3>professor of geological sciences at the University of Florida, and

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<v Speaker 3>her team published the findings in Nature Communications, and they

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<v Speaker 3>found a lot. They didn't just find a faint whisper

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<v Speaker 3>of carbon. The TMAH test revealed over twenty distinct complex

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<v Speaker 3>organic chemical compound.

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<v Speaker 2>Why ded That is a massive chemical hall huge.

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<v Speaker 3>But among those twenty, there are two specific structural findings

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<v Speaker 3>that genuinely altered the landscape of planetary science.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's hear them.

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<v Speaker 3>First, they identified a nitrogen bearing molecule with a structure

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<v Speaker 3>fundamentally similar to the nucleobases that formed the precursors of

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<v Speaker 3>DNA wow. And second, they found a significant presence of benzothiophine,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a large, double ringed sulfur based chemical.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if you were to look at the mass

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<v Speaker 2>spectrometer readouts right now. You wouldn't see the letters DNA

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<v Speaker 2>flashing on a screen.

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<v Speaker 3>No, definitely not.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd see a spike in mass to charge ratios, indicating

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<v Speaker 2>a very specific heavy nitrogen bearing ring. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>basically play detective to reconstruct what that ring used to

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<v Speaker 2>be before three and a half billion years of radiation

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<v Speaker 2>got to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you're looking at the fragments.

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<v Speaker 2>But the conclusion is that we are looking at a

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<v Speaker 2>DNA precursor, the literal structural foundation of genetic information as

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<v Speaker 2>we understand it, just sitting there, frozen in a Martian

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<v Speaker 2>lake bed exactly. And here's where it gets really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to push back on the scientific communities

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<v Speaker 2>messaging here.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, lay it on me.

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<v Speaker 2>We found the building blocks of DNA on Mars. Why

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<v Speaker 2>isn't this front page above the fold news everywhere declaring

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<v Speaker 2>we found aliens. It feels like scientists are deliberately downplaying this,

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<v Speaker 2>framing it merely as chemistry rather than definitively by alogy.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the most natural reaction to have, believe me,

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<v Speaker 3>and it gets to the very heart of the rigor

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<v Speaker 3>required by the scientific.

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<v Speaker 2>Method, because it's not proof yet, right.

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<v Speaker 3>The boundary between a biological building block, and actual functioning

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<v Speaker 3>biological activity is a vast complicated gulf. How so, well,

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<v Speaker 3>think of finding a nuclear base a DNA precursor like

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<v Speaker 3>finding a single perfectly formed clay brick. A brick is

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly useful. It is the fundamental unit you need if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to build a complex house. But finding a

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<v Speaker 3>single brick lying in an empty field does not prove

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<v Speaker 3>that a house was ever actually built there, let alone

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<v Speaker 3>that someone lived in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Biology is not just a collection of chemicals. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>highly organized, selective, energy consuming system. And the universe, it

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<v Speaker 3>turns out, is remarkably good at forging the basic chemical

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<v Speaker 3>bricks of life entirely on its own.

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<v Speaker 2>Without life being involved at all, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Through completely abiotic, non living physics and chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>Which ties perfectly into the second major chemical they found, benzothiophine. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it does, because if I hear sulfur based organic ring,

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<v Speaker 2>I immediately think of the sky, not the ground. Benzothiophine

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<v Speaker 2>is heavily associated with meteorite delivery. Right, we know the

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<v Speaker 2>universe is literally raining these complex carbon building blocks down

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<v Speaker 2>on planets all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the crucial context. Benzothiophine is a fascinating molecule.

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<v Speaker 3>It consists of a benzene ring fused to a thiophine

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<v Speaker 3>ring incorporating a sulfur atom.

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<v Speaker 2>And why is the sulfur important?

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<v Speaker 3>Sulfur is incredibly important because it undergoes a process similar

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<v Speaker 3>to vulcanization and rubber.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh like toughening it up exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It cross links with organic molecules, making them incredibly tough

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<v Speaker 3>and resistant to degradation.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so they survive the trip through space.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But more importantly, as you noted, these exact types

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<v Speaker 3>of molecules are routinely found inside carbonaceous chondrite meteorites. Amy

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<v Speaker 3>Williams made a profound observation about this dynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>What did she say?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she noted that the early Solar System around three

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<v Speaker 3>point eight to four or billion years ago, during the

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<v Speaker 3>Late Heavy bombardment, was a chaotic, violent place. The exact

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<v Speaker 3>same meteoric material that rained down on Mars is what

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<v Speaker 3>rained down on Earth. Really, Yeah, the inner Solar System

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<v Speaker 3>was bathed in the exact same organic inventory.

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<v Speaker 2>So Earth wasn't special in its ingredients.

429
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<v Speaker 3>Not at all. Both worlds received the exact same cosmic

430
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<v Speaker 3>grocery delivery. On Earth, those complex molecular building blocks were

431
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<v Speaker 3>eventually caught up in a cycle of hydrothermal energy and

432
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<v Speaker 3>liquid water and were utilized by emerging biological systems.

433
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<v Speaker 2>And on Mars.

434
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<v Speaker 3>On Mars, they might have just fallen into the quiet

435
00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:38.720
<v Speaker 3>waters of Gale Crater, sunk to the bottom, gotten trapped

436
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<v Speaker 3>in the microscopic layers of coming smectite clay, and just

437
00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:46.720
<v Speaker 3>sat there in perfect cold preservation for billions of years.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Which means my earlier frustration about scientists not declaring

439
00:21:50.119 --> 00:21:52.920
<v Speaker 2>we found life is exactly what the entire scientific community

440
00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:53.960
<v Speaker 2>is wrestling with right now.

441
00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:55.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's the big debate.

442
00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Because of the Samtmah experiment, we finally know, without a

443
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<v Speaker 2>shadow of a doubt, what is in the Martian dirt.

444
00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:04.839
<v Speaker 2>The tupperware is full, yes it is. But the hardest

445
00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:07.839
<v Speaker 2>puzzle in the Solar system is figuring out the causal

446
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<v Speaker 2>mechanism of how it got there.

447
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<v Speaker 3>That is the absolute crux of the origin ambiguity, and

448
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<v Speaker 3>it highlights the inherent limitations of even our most advanced

449
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<v Speaker 3>robotic experiments.

450
00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:21.799
<v Speaker 2>Right because the rover can only tell us so much.

451
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<v Speaker 3>Exactly the tmah wet chemistry test on curiosity is a

452
00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:30.680
<v Speaker 3>triumph of remote engineering, but it cannot definitively distinguish the

453
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<v Speaker 3>origin story of these chemical compounds.

454
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<v Speaker 2>So we have options we do.

455
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<v Speaker 3>When we look at that benzothiophine or that nitrogen bearing

456
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<v Speaker 3>DNA precursor, we are faced with three equally plausible hypotheses.

457
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<v Speaker 2>We go through them.

458
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<v Speaker 3>First, the biological hypothesis. These organics are the degraded, fragmented

459
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<v Speaker 3>remnants of the metabolic processes of actual ancient Martian microbes

460
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<v Speaker 3>that lived in Gale crater.

461
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<v Speaker 2>The alien life option. Okay, what's next.

462
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<v Speaker 3>Second, the abiotic geological hypothesis. These compounds were formed entirely

463
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<v Speaker 3>through non living processes like what kind of processes such

464
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<v Speaker 3>as fischer Trops type reactions in hydrothermal vents deep underground

465
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<v Speaker 3>where hot water interacts with carbon dioxide and hydrogen to

466
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<v Speaker 3>synthesize complex hydrocarbons.

467
00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the planet just bake them up itself, right?

468
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<v Speaker 2>And the third is the exogenous hypothesis, the meteorite delivery

469
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<v Speaker 2>system exactly, you know, I look at this chemical ambiguity

470
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<v Speaker 2>like walking into a kitchen and finding a bag of flour.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Some sugar and a carton of eggs sitting on the counter.

472
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I like this.

473
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<v Speaker 2>It could mean someone was actively in there baking a cake,

474
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<v Speaker 2>whipping up a complex recipe, which represents biological life. Or

475
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<v Speaker 2>it could just mean someone dropped off raw groceries and

476
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<v Speaker 2>bags and left the house, which represents meteorites delivering the

477
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<v Speaker 2>chemicals from space.

478
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<v Speaker 3>That is a perfect analogy, right.

479
00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:50.279
<v Speaker 2>The ingredients sitting on the counter are exactly the same

480
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<v Speaker 2>in both scenarios, but the story of how they got

481
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<v Speaker 2>there completely changes our understanding of the universe completely. So

482
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<v Speaker 2>what does this all mean? How do we solve this?

483
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<v Speaker 2>If a bill VN dollar car sized chemistry lab on

484
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<v Speaker 2>wheels can't tell the difference between raw groceries and a

485
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<v Speaker 2>baked cake, what are we supposed to do.

486
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<v Speaker 3>To solve that? We have to look for signatures that

487
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<v Speaker 3>are uniquely undeniably biological. We have to look for things

488
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<v Speaker 3>like isotopic fractionation or HOMLK chorality.

489
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on, let's break those down, because that is

490
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<v Speaker 2>where the real detective work happens.

491
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<v Speaker 3>Sure, let's take isotopic fractionation. Okay, life is fundamentally lazy.

492
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<v Speaker 3>It always takes the path of least resistance, don't we

493
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<v Speaker 3>all right? Carbon exists in different isotopes, primarily carbon twelve,

494
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<v Speaker 3>which is lighter, and carbon thirteen, which has an extra

495
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<v Speaker 3>neutron and is heavier.

496
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so twelve is lighter, thirteen is heavier.

497
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<v Speaker 3>Because carbon twelve is lighter, it requires slightly less energy

498
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<v Speaker 3>to incorporate into metabolic processes. So biological systems preferentially consume

499
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<v Speaker 3>carbon twelve.

500
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, because it's easier to lift.

501
00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:55.559
<v Speaker 3>Basically exactly, if you find a depositive organic matter and

502
00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:59.079
<v Speaker 3>it has a heavily skewed ratio favoring carbon twelve far

503
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<v Speaker 3>beyond the standard geological background levels, yeah, well that is

504
00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:05.519
<v Speaker 3>a massive flashing neon sign pointing toward biology.

505
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<v Speaker 2>So life leaves a chemical preference. And what was the

506
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<v Speaker 2>second one? Chirality.

507
00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Chirality is basically handedness. Many complex organic molecules, like amino

508
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<v Speaker 3>acids can form in two mirror image.

509
00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Structures like literal hands.

510
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<v Speaker 3>Right, think of your left and right hands. They have

511
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<v Speaker 3>the same components, but you can't perfectly superimpose them.

512
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so molecules do that too.

513
00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:30.400
<v Speaker 3>They do when organics form in space on a meteorite.

514
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<v Speaker 3>Abiotic chemistry produces a roughly fifty to fifty split of

515
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<v Speaker 3>left handed and right handed molecules, an even mix, yeah,

516
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<v Speaker 3>what we call a racemic mixture. But life on Earth

517
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<v Speaker 3>is incredibly specific. Every biological system on this planet exclusively

518
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<v Speaker 3>uses left handed amino acids and right handed sugars. Wait

519
00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:50.559
<v Speaker 3>all of them, all of them. It's called homol chorality.

520
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<v Speaker 3>If we find a batch of organics on Mars and

521
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<v Speaker 3>they are entirely left handed, that essentially eliminates the media

522
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<v Speaker 3>write hypothesis.

523
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<v Speaker 2>Because metiaorrites would be fifty to fifty exactly. But the

524
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<v Speaker 2>SAM instrument, even with the TMAH lock pick, can't reliably

525
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<v Speaker 2>measure that kind of microscopic, isotopic and structural detail, especially

526
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<v Speaker 2>on organics that have been degraded by billions of years

527
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:13.359
<v Speaker 2>of radiation.

528
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:18.519
<v Speaker 3>No, it can't. Curiosity proved the building blocks are there

529
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<v Speaker 3>and that the Gale crater environment was highly habitable. It

530
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:25.200
<v Speaker 3>found the tupperware, and it found the ingredients inside, right,

531
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:29.079
<v Speaker 3>But to definitively tell if those ingredients were organized into

532
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:33.960
<v Speaker 3>a living system. To check for homokality and isotopic biosignatures,

533
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.559
<v Speaker 3>we absolutely must look at the microscopic structure of the

534
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<v Speaker 3>rocks in a pristine laboratory setting on Earth.

535
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:42.359
<v Speaker 2>We need our big tools we do.

536
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:46.759
<v Speaker 3>We need equipment the size of entire buildings using synchotron

537
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:50.960
<v Speaker 3>particle accelerators and electron microscopes, rather than an instrument the

538
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:52.599
<v Speaker 3>size of a microwave tucked.

539
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Inside a rover, which explains the entire strategic progression of

540
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<v Speaker 2>NASA's Mars exploration program over the last decade.

541
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<v Speaker 3>If we connect this to the bigger yes, absolutely.

542
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>It's not just a series of random rover drops, It's

543
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>an escalating chain of scientific relay races. Curiosity was the scout, Yes,

544
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:10.599
<v Speaker 2>the scout. Its job was to find the habitable conditions

545
00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:15.119
<v Speaker 2>and prove the organics survived. Once Curiosity found that nitrogen

546
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.720
<v Speaker 2>bearing ring and the benzotheophanes in twenty twenty, it gave

547
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 2>the green light to the next generation. That is exactly

548
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 2>why the Perseverance rover, which landed in Jazzero Crater in

549
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one, has a completely different job description.

550
00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Precisely, or rather, that's exactly the evolution of the mission architecture.

551
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:37.599
<v Speaker 3>Perseverance is not just looking for habitability. It is explicitly

552
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.920
<v Speaker 3>tasked with seeking definitive signs of ancient microbial.

553
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:43.759
<v Speaker 2>Life, right, it's looking for the fossils exactly.

554
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:46.440
<v Speaker 3>And instead of just analyzing the dirt onboard and leaving

555
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:50.519
<v Speaker 3>it behind like Curiosity does, Perseverance is actively drilling pristine

556
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:53.599
<v Speaker 3>rock cores to bring them back. Well, it's sealing them

557
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.359
<v Speaker 3>in ultra clean titanium tubes and cashing them on the

558
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Martian surface, just.

559
00:27:57.440 --> 00:27:59.599
<v Speaker 2>Leaving them there for pickup exactly. And all of that

560
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.240
<v Speaker 2>hinge is entirely on the future Mars sample return architecture,

561
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:07.160
<v Speaker 2>which is arguably the most complex robotic space mission ever conceived.

562
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh, without a doubt.

563
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:10.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we have to send an Earth return orbiter

564
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to Mars, drop a sample retrieval lander to the surface,

565
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:16.759
<v Speaker 2>have a small thatcherrover or helicopters pick up those titanium

566
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:21.799
<v Speaker 2>tubes from Perseverance, load them into a Mars ascent vehicle,

567
00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:24.880
<v Speaker 2>which is a rocket launching off the surface of another

568
00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>planet by the.

569
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<v Speaker 3>Way, for the first time ever.

570
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, then rendezvous with the orbiter in space and flight them.

571
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.559
<v Speaker 3>All the way back to Earth. It is a staggering

572
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:36.920
<v Speaker 3>logistical chain, yeah, and it will take years, likely stretching

573
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:40.559
<v Speaker 3>into the next decade before those physical samples make the

574
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:44.119
<v Speaker 3>multimillion mile trip back to terrestrial laboratories.

575
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>So we still have a long wait.

576
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.960
<v Speaker 3>We do, but while we wait for that ultimate physical evidence,

577
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:52.920
<v Speaker 3>the success of the TMAH chemical lock pick experiment on

578
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Curiosity hasn't just become a footnote in history. It has

579
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.640
<v Speaker 3>quite literally rewritten the playbook for how humanity designs the

580
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.079
<v Speaker 3>chemical exploration of the rest of the Solar System.

581
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Because we prove the concept, we know definitively that you

582
00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:11.160
<v Speaker 2>can take a highly volatile chemical region like TMAH, shoot

583
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:14.599
<v Speaker 2>it into space, keep it stable for eight years, mix

584
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:19.680
<v Speaker 2>it with alien dirt remotely, and successfully extract heavily degraded

585
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:24.119
<v Speaker 2>billion year old organic macromolecules without destroying them exactly.

586
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 3>And because that methodology is now prooven, it is being exported.

587
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:29.759
<v Speaker 3>It is no longer just a Martian tool.

588
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Where else is it going well?

589
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:34.240
<v Speaker 3>The European Space Agency is incorporating this exact type of

590
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:38.000
<v Speaker 3>wet chemistry testing into the Roslin Franklin mission to Mars

591
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:42.359
<v Speaker 3>oh Nice and significantly, the Roslin Franklin rover is designed

592
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.759
<v Speaker 3>with a drill capable of penetrating two meters deep into

593
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:47.680
<v Speaker 3>the Martian subsurface.

594
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 2>Two meters Curiosity only scraped a couple of inches down.

595
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Right, By going two meters deep, Roslin Franklin will be

596
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.000
<v Speaker 3>sampling organics that have been completely shielded from the ionizing

597
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:58.839
<v Speaker 3>radiation that destroyed the top layers.

598
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:01.319
<v Speaker 2>So we're finally getting below the wrecking balls.

599
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 3>We are.

600
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.480
<v Speaker 2>But what truly blows my mind is that this technology

601
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:08.000
<v Speaker 2>is leaving Mars entirely. This exact chemical test is going

602
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:12.200
<v Speaker 2>to be incorporated into the Dragonfly expedition to Saturn's moon Titan.

603
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 3>This raises an important question, right, because Titan is so different?

604
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wait, we're taking Mars tactics to Saturn's moons now

605
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.839
<v Speaker 2>we are. Now, Titan isn't a dusty, irradiated red desert.

606
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.599
<v Speaker 2>It's a completely different paradigm. It is an ice world

607
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.960
<v Speaker 2>sitting in the deep frieze of the outer Solar System,

608
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.519
<v Speaker 2>very deep freeze, enveloped in a thick, smoggy atmosphere where

609
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.240
<v Speaker 2>liquid methane and ethane rain from the sky, carving actual

610
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.440
<v Speaker 2>river valleys and forming vast hydrocarbon lakes. How does a

611
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:45.319
<v Speaker 2>chemical test designed to crack open dry Martian smectite clay

612
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:49.119
<v Speaker 2>translate to an ice moon billions of miles further away?

613
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:53.759
<v Speaker 3>The environment changes short but the fundamental chemical problem remains identical.

614
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 3>Really how so well Titan's surface and atmosphere operate essentially

615
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<v Speaker 3>as a planet scale organic chemistry factory. Photochemical reactions in

616
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 3>its upper atmosphere constantly break apart methane and nitrogen, creating

617
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 3>what creating complex heavy organic molecules called tholins that slowly

618
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 3>drift down to the icy surface like a steady snowfall.

619
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<v Speaker 2>Like an organic snow that is wild it is.

620
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:20.079
<v Speaker 3>The Dragonfly mission is a nuclear powered eight rotor drone

621
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<v Speaker 3>that will literally fly from location to location across titans

622
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 3>dunes and craters, sampling this organic snow.

623
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<v Speaker 2>A nuclear drone flying through methane skies, it still doesn't

624
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:30.599
<v Speaker 2>feel real.

625
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 3>It's incredible engineering. But the scientists designing Dragonfly face the

626
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:38.559
<v Speaker 3>exact same problem Jennifer Eigenbrode and Amy Williams faced with

627
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Sam on Mars, the burning problem exactly. Titan's surface is

628
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:46.680
<v Speaker 3>incredibly cold, around ninety four kelvin or minus two hundred

629
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:49.480
<v Speaker 3>and ninety degrees fahrenheit. The heavy organics covering the surface

630
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.920
<v Speaker 3>are frozen solid and highly complex. Okay, if the Dragonfly

631
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.920
<v Speaker 3>drone lands scoops up that icy, organic rich material, and

632
00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:59.200
<v Speaker 3>just blasts it with a heater to vaporize it for

633
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<v Speaker 3>a mass spectrum.

634
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:01.079
<v Speaker 2>They turned to charcoal.

635
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Right, those massive, complex tholen molecules will fracture, to grade

636
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.319
<v Speaker 3>and burn just like they would have on Mars. You

637
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.960
<v Speaker 3>will lose all that structural information. They need a way

638
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:14.079
<v Speaker 3>to gently volatilize the heaviest, most complex molecules on the Moon.

639
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 2>So they are bringing the lock pick to Saturn.

640
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<v Speaker 3>They are.

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<v Speaker 2>They will use thermochomolysis, breaking the molecules apart chemically and

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<v Speaker 2>capping them with methyl groups so they float up as

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<v Speaker 2>readable gases even in the freezing methane environment of Titan.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the two cup gamble on curiosity didn't just solve

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<v Speaker 3>a local mystery in Gale Crater. It proved that complex

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<v Speaker 3>wet chemistry can be automated and executed flawlessly in brutal

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<v Speaker 3>alien conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>It opened the door.

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<v Speaker 3>By testing and validating this concept in the dry, dusty

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<v Speaker 3>clay of Mars, we gained a standard, highly reliable weapon

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<v Speaker 3>in humanity's analytical arsenal. Whenever we go hunting for the

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<v Speaker 3>molecular building blocks of life anywhere in the cosmos, whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's the subsurface oceans of Europa or the methane lakes

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<v Speaker 3>of Titan. We now know exactly how to open the

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<v Speaker 3>vault without burning the treasure inside.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is staggering to pull all these threads together.

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<v Speaker 3>With a lot of information I know.

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<v Speaker 2>We started this conversation standing in the freezing butterscotch tinted

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<v Speaker 2>dust of Gale Crater. We walked through the deep geological history,

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<v Speaker 2>exploring how the ancient flowing waters of Mars reacted with

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<v Speaker 2>volcanic rock to form microscopic layered clay tupperware. We saw

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<v Speaker 2>how those smectite clay layers physically and chemically locked away

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<v Speaker 2>the organic secrets of a violently chaotic early solar system,

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<v Speaker 2>shielding them from three and a half billion years of cosmic.

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<v Speaker 3>Radiation, protected them perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>We looked at the agonizing eight year weight scientists endured

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<v Speaker 2>just to use two tiny cups of a chemical lock pick,

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<v Speaker 2>terrified of wasting their only shot, and we saw how

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<v Speaker 2>that tension exploded into the discovery of massive, complex molecules

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<v Speaker 2>from meteorite delivered benzothiophines to the literal nitrogen bearing precursors

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<v Speaker 2>of DNA.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful scientific arc.

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<v Speaker 2>It is we prove that our neighboring barren planet was

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<v Speaker 2>stocked with the exact same biological grocery list that eventually

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<v Speaker 2>sparked life here on Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it's deeply important for you listening to

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<v Speaker 3>this right now to internalize your own physical connection to

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<v Speaker 3>this science.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't agree more.

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<v Speaker 3>It is very easy to look at planetary exploration as

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<v Speaker 3>something abstract, an expensive exercise in robotics happening hundreds of

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<v Speaker 3>millions of miles away. But it is profoundly personal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about us exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The carbon atoms currently forming the cell walls in your body,

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<v Speaker 3>the nitrogen atoms binding together the very rungs of your

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<v Speaker 3>own DNA. As you listen to this, they share a

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<v Speaker 3>direct cosmic history with the degraded molecules currently resting in

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<v Speaker 3>the Glenord and dirt. Wow, the organic rain that blanketed

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<v Speaker 3>the violent early Solar System fell indiscriminately. It fell on you,

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<v Speaker 3>and it fell on Mars. When we use tools like

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<v Speaker 3>SAM and TMAH to dissect the dirt of another world,

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<v Speaker 3>we are quite literally studying our own chemical origins and

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<v Speaker 3>a planet here.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a hauntingly beautiful perspective, And it leaves me

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<v Speaker 2>with one final thought for you to ponder. We know

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<v Speaker 2>the ingredients are universal, We know the exact same organic

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<v Speaker 2>groceries rained down on both Earth and Mars from meteorites

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<v Speaker 2>three point eight billion years ago, and we now know definitively,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to a car sized rubber and a chemical called TMAH,

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<v Speaker 2>that mars ancient clay was perfectly capable of catching those ingredients,

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<v Speaker 2>holding them in a watery, highly habitable environment, and preserving

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<v Speaker 2>them for eons. The table was perfectly set, it really was.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps the most profound mystery moving forward isn't whether Mars

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<v Speaker 2>could have supported life. Perhaps the real mystery, the one

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<v Speaker 2>that should keep us awake at night, is what tiny microscopic,

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<v Speaker 2>thermodynamic fork in the road caused Earth to wake up

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<v Speaker 2>and start baking the cake, while Mars, with all the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same ingredients, remained perfectly chemically asleep,
