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Speaker 1: You're listening to Petlifradio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning to everybody, and welcome on this lovely

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Sunday morning here on pet Life Radio, and you are

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with doctor Jeff Werber at our new time slot for astevettes.

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With doctor Jeff, we are going to be here every

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Sunday morning. That's going to be nine o'clock out in

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the west by me, and that takes us to noon

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for those of you back in the East, and of

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course anywhere in the central you can figure it out yourselves.

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But we are here every Sunday morning now since this

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new time slot. Don't know how many of you had

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a chance to listen to us. We've been typically on

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on Thursday afternoons. So a little bit about myself again.

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My name is doctor Jeff Werber. I am a practicing veterinarian.

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Been doing it for this is my Oh my god,

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thirty years that's frightening. I went to the University of

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California at Davis. Happily to say, at that time when

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I was there thirty plus years ago, it was number one.

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Now we are number two to Cornell, but we're still

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pretty happy. We're always in that top five.

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Speaker 3: And believe it or not.

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Speaker 2: I still love practicing now thirty years later, just as

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much as I did on day one, which is a lot,

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a lot of fun. And I sort of got into

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the media world of veterinary medicine, oh totally accidentally, got

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back in nineteen eighty six a bit disenchanted with the

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poor amount of information that was out there publicly for you,

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the pet parent and the veterinary community doing a really

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lousy job educating. I mean, well, come on, when was

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the last time you would see a commercial on TV

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back thirty five years ago talking about vaccine er talking about,

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you know, stopping pet pregnancies or pet can answer. Now

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you would see commercials for smoking and breast self examination

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and prostate exams for people, but nothing for pets. So

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I decided I was going to see what I can do,

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and I went to our parent association, the American Veterinary

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Medical Association, and said, you know, it would be great

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to have what we call PSAs. PSA's are public service

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announcements just on behalf of the industry educating the masses.

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I mean, how many times did I have to have

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a client coming in with that six month old not

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eight week old, six month old puppies say, okay, here,

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we're here today, doctor start vaccines. And I'm thinking to myself,

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start vaccines to you know, how lucky you are that

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your dog is not dead from parva. We're dead from

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distemper and they're starting vaccines six months And whose fault

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it is it? It was our fault, the veterinary communities fault.

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So I got the condescending pat on the shoulder. Sure, son,

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we've got to have what. We're taking care of this.

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So I waited and waited some more and waited some more,

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and nothing was going on. So I started to write

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a video. This is you know, think back, this is

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nineteen eighty something, this is the time that videos were

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just hot. And I decided to write a video and

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just basic dog care. And I realized from doing a

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little homework that the number one selling books at the

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pet stores were these books that was called by TFH Publications.

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Speaker 3: That's who made anylibone back then.

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Speaker 2: And it was a oh, your Cocker spaniel, your German Shepherd,

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your Golden triever.

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Speaker 3: You're a laborator, treet.

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Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I will make my video

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and I will customize it for like the top ten

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selling breeds and we'll see how it does. So I

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write this video having no clue what's going to happen

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to how I'm going to market it, And wouldn't you

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know it, this guy comes in my office with a

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last name that I recognized. Turns out I knew his

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dad growing up, and I asked, oh my god, what's

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your dad up to? And he said, oh, we produce

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ready for this educational videos for schools and libraries.

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Speaker 3: I said, well, do I have a video for you?

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Speaker 2: I gave him the script. They said they were going

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to do it, and the rest is history. That landed

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me on a show called Hour Magazine way back in

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eighty six. I became their pet expert. From there, I

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went to the Home Show on ABC for five years,

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Mike and Maddie and ABC. After that, I started doing

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CBS early, so I actually have an Emmy from CBS News,

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and of late, I've been working with doctor Oz. I

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had been on Rachel Ray a number of times and

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mostly news, becoming what we call a pet health reporter.

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But I've never stopped practicing because my true love is practice.

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And I realized that there are so many times that clients,

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pet parents, pet owners would love to ask questions. And

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you call your vet, you get them on the line.

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Maybe usually not, they make you come in front appointment.

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A lot of these questions are really basic but important

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that you know. And when I did a local radio

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show here in Los Angeles on KBC, I was getting

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more phone calls in an hour than some guy who

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was on the radio for twenty five years at KBC

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was getting in two hours. And that's when I realized.

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So Mark Winter from pet Life Radio and I joined up.

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We met at a trade show a couple of years ago,

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and here we are today for you on pet Life Radio,

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the top pet radio station. It's on the internet. It's

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That's doctor Jeff at Petlifradio dot com. You can call

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that hopefully you can afford. So anyway, last week when

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we ended the show, we got a call from Diane

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who sadly had lost her dog to sarcoma. And it's

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a very tough cancer and it was in a leg,

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and it was in a leg that that dog had

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had surgery before to repair a ligament. And the question

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was can irritation, can trauma predispose a dog or anybody

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the cancer, and the answer is absolutely yes, it can.

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And the reason is that during the irritative phase, whether

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it's a foreign object in the joint from the suture material,

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whether it's a plate with screws where we get what's

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called cycling over time, this continued irritation, this continued trauma

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within can actually assuming the gene is there. And we

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talked about that last week, that you have to have

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that gene present in order to stimulate it. But chronic

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irritation definitely can stimulate the gene if it's present. Now,

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if the gene's not there, then it can. Let's go

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back to the classic example, which is.

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Speaker 3: You can relate.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure all of us have known someone who had

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lung cancer. And how often do we hear stories of

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people with lung cancer that never smoked a cigarette in

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their lives.

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Speaker 3: However, gets lung cancer.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's because they had that gene present and was

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probably turned on stimulated by secondhand smoke. However, conversely, contrasts

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that to the person who smoked backs a day for

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their whole life and they're living into their nineties and

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never got it, and that's because they just didn't have

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that gene so truly the basics that we still believe

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of cancer two things. Number one genetics and number two

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the body's own immune system. And I have you know

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when you stories of cancer treatments that are a bit

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on the edge, maybe a little bit more naturopathic homeopathic.

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bone cancer. Bon't cancer is a killer. Bon't cancer basically

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we will tell someone is one hundred percent fatal. However,

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I've had a few cases where giving a whole recipe

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of naturopathic megados, vitamins, et cetera actually cured two cases.

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Speaker 3: I've done it dozens of times, but two actually worked.

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Speaker 2: And when I was talking to one of my mentors,

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one of my colleagues who after getting her double certification

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in internal medicine and oncology from UC Davis, she went

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on to get a PhD in comparative oncology from Stanford,

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and she basically told me when I shared with her

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my success of these two cases, that nothing surprises her anymore.

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She said one of the things she took away most

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from her PhD is how little we really know about cancer.

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But she said, more likely than not, it wasn't that

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that my tree mean to actually kill the cancer. What

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my treatment did was somehow stimulate the immune system of

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these dogs, and their immune system beat the cancer. So,

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just as the breakdown of the immune system can help

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predispose to cancer, by boosting that immune system, we actually

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might be able to help.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: One other thing that Diane asked me about in her

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phone call, and we didn't have a chance. I wasn't

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really that familiar with it is something called prolo therapy.

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Now prolotherapy, I think Diane was under the conception and

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when her friend's dog had it done with a similar cancer.

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Prolotherapy means injecting some sort of inert substance into the

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body to create some first some irritation. Then the body

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comes in to battle this irritation, and in that battling

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will help heal whatever the problem was. It's usually used

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for orthopedics, it's for back, it's for joints. And so

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what I realized is that doing some homework and talking

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to a number of doctors, it is questionable. It's not

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accepted by all. It goes back to originally the thirties

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and forties, and actually even before that, in Roman times,

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they used to use hot needles injected into the joints

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of gladiators to help stimulate healing and get them back

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into the fighting arenas. And this is probably the same concept.

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Let's create some more irritation, get the body to come

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in and we do this sometimes, for example, treating certain ulcers,

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refractory corneal ulcers, these are erosions of the eyeball, we

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will actually irritate the eyeball, do something called keratotomy, either

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a punctatekeratotomy or a linear caratotomy, where we actually create

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more damage to stimulate more healing, faster healing. So the

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concept is not foreign. But what the prolotherapy in the

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case we discussed last week was not to beat the cancer.

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It was to help strengthen the joint from the cancer. Sadly,

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it didn't work, and it's not gonna work. It's not

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gonna beat the cancer. But for other reasons it may

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not be a bad thing to try. Usually the recommendation

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from the medical side is in conjunction with other treatments

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it might help. Don't rely on it just by itself.

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I think you'll be disappointed. One of the things I

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wanted to talk about, and we're going to take a

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very very short break because it's that time, and because

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of some technical difficulties this morning, we did start a

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little bit later than we like to, So we're going

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to talk about cars and summer heat when we come

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back in just about a minute.

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Speaker 3: Live right back.

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back right after these messages.

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You're here with doctor Jeff Werber here on pet Life Radio.

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And after the quick break, I wanted to talk a

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little bit about something I see often and that is Look,

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it's the weather's getting nicer all over the place. And

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I think that's great because we're going to spend a

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little bit more time with our dogs outdoors. And this

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time outdoors is critical. And we've talked before in the

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past about the dos and don'ts have when to exercise. Clearly,

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we do not want to do it in the middle

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of the day. It's got to be early in the morning,

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late into the evening. Certain areas where there's a high humidity,

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it can still be in these high seventies, low eighties

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late in the evening. So again you need to use

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little common sense. But how about the car, And there

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are a few things that we need to talk about

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when you take you're gonna take your dogs into the car.

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And again I am a big advocate. I think it's great.

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You have to drive to that great place where you

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can have a leash free run at a dog park,

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at the beach, wherever it is. I love it and

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I encourage it. However, there are some precautions that we

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need to take. First of all, dogs in a car

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need to be in some sort of restraint harness. There

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are a number of good ones out there, harnesses that

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click right into your automobile seat belts. You do not

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want your dog for many reasons. Your safety and of

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course their safety first firstly, and that is just freely

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running around the car. All it takes is one swerve,

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one sharp slam on the brakes, and your poor guy

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is not going to be able to restrain or handle

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that quick jerk forward and he or she is heading

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right for the dashboard, the windshield, if they're in the

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back seat, of the back of the front seat, whatever

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it's going to be, and most likely there will be

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potential injury. So you need to have them in a

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seat belt harness. And they said there's some great ones

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out there. Most pets, if not all pet stores, have something.

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You can go online and order something that will click

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on your dog and then you latch it into the

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regular seat belt and they'll be somewhat restrained. The other

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issue is, especially with little dogs, a lot of times

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they like to jump off the seat and they think

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it's so cool to hang around your feet. Buy the

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gas pedal, buy the brake pedal while you're driving, and

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this too clearly compose the danger because you may not

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want to slam on that break when your little guy

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is sitting right there on the floor. So and also

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that you don't want them on your laps. So there

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are so many reasons why they need to be either

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in a harness or if they're small enough, in a carrier.

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And you should get any kind of good airline approoved

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carriers fine. And again you can take the seat belt,

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put it through the handle of the carrier, and that

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way there will be some more stabilization of the carrier

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in the car next up, even though they're in a harness,

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which is great. What about the head hanging out the window? Now, yes,

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it is adorable and I want to I drive up

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and the windows open, I see a dog.

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Speaker 3: I want a pett it. I want to say hello

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and talk to the dog. But that's just me.

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Speaker 2: But what I'm concerned about is that there is something

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that we see called exposure carotitis. For some reason, dog's

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cornea is to little dust particles, to wind, even to eyelashes.

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How many times have you pulled something out of your

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seen an eyelash or something in your dog's eye. You

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take it out and they don't seem to be bothered

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at all. And I think it's just my nature, you know,

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because they're dogs, because it's sort of been an evolutionary

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thing where they don't have the same hypersensitivity getting that

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eyelash or a dust particle in the eye, but the

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damage is still there and potentially is created by the dust.

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So and that your head, the dog's head is hanging

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out of a window of a car going fifty miles

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an hour, trust me, we are going to see some changes.

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First thing is the wind hitting antsy the eyeball is

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going to drive the eyeball. The last two layers of

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the seven layer cornea are actually tear film layers, and

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those are probably the most protective of all the layers. Well,

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when those tier film layers are gone because they're dried

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out because the wind hitting those eyeballs at fifty miles

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an hour, now they don't have the protection. So we

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can often see dogs with what we call exposure carotitis

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and inflammation of the cornea is secondary to just the

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dust particles, wind et cetera hitting the eyeball.

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Speaker 3: At high speed. So I would just caution you.

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Speaker 2: The other thing, of course, is the jowls.

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Speaker 3: And the slobber.

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Speaker 2: And you get a Saint Bernard with his head out

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the window and you're not going to be able to

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see out of your back window anymore. So you know

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your backside, that passenger side window in the back, because

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there's going to be slobber all over it.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, just keep those things in mind.

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Speaker 2: And lastly, I'm going to leave you with this, and

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this is probably the most important advice I'm going to

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give you with today's session, and that is don't kid

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yourselves when even thinking that you're going to leave your

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dog in a park car with the window crack in

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the shade during the day. It is unacceptable. We did

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for when I was doing the Home Show. I mentioned

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earlier in the show that I was the resident veterinarian

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for ABC's Home Show for many years, and we did

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a time lapse test by putting a thermometer in a

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car during the summer on a summer day, parked in

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the shade with the windows cracked, it took fourteen minutes

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to get above one hundred and fourteen degrees fahrenheit. So

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can you imagine if there were a dog in there

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breathing and panting. Remember if you put your hand in

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the front of a panting dog, what's coming out of

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that mouth is very, very warm. So that creates the

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car already like a sweatbox, into much more of one,

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and they can literally overheat. I heard a story very

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recently where three dogs were left in a car for

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ten minutes. Ten minutes while the owner ran into the bank.

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Parked in the shade with the windows cracked, the dogs

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were gone. So it is nothing to joke about. Don't

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ever think for a second, oh, that will not happen

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to me. Trust me, it can happen to you as well.

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My advice is clearly take them out with you, do

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not leave them in the car. The windows cracked, not cracked.

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It's not going to make a difference. You must be very,

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very careful when it comes to dogs in park cars

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at any time during the summer, parked anywhere, even in

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an indoor parking garage, because when it's hot. It's hot anyway,

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great week and safely and give your dogs and cats

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Speaker 3: I'm doctor Jeff Warber. We'll be here next week.

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