WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:06.000 Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball 2 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:08.800 here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In 3 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:13.160 with me today is old time partner Jay Gonzaza. I'm 4 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:15.599 glad to get you out a bit or you were 5 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:17.719 available to no Tuesday's I was bit early. 6 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:19.399 No, I I've been. 7 00:00:19.640 --> 00:00:22.399 Yeah, I'm in Tuesday's my busy day. You got lucky 8 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:24.440 that I came in today. 9 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:28.160 You still like chrish crap I get in a stereo today. 10 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:30.120 We welcome back to the show. I'm glad you found it. 11 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:33.039 Yeah, you know, I I you know what, I just 12 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:35.840 point my card in this direction, right and it just 13 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:36.320 shows up. 14 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:36.439 No. 15 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:38.719 Cool, good you're here. Maybe we get some calls an 16 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:42.600 interesting show today. We're gonna have some college football stuff 17 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:45.759 and we're gonna have some UA softball stuff. Uh, you know, 18 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:47.240 they're doing pretty well softball. 19 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:49.399 Yeah, you know, we'll see, uh you know, it's the 20 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:52.359 first big twelve tournament for them, so yeah, we'll see 21 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:54.399 how that how that goes, And they did they did 22 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:54.880 very well. 23 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:55.079 Yeah. 24 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:56.880 Yeah, they had a good season. In a second rate, 25 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:57.880 they've had a good season. 26 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:01.560 I think if the two seed, yeah, you know, they're 27 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:07.439 they're you know they're playing. They're playing for the opportunity 28 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:11.959 or the chance to host a super regional, right they're 29 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:16.879 getting in the tournament, they're probably gonna host, uh, you know, 30 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:20.239 a regional they got, they got, you know, they got 31 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:22.840 to put some put some more numbers together to have 32 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:24.680 a chance to make you know, maybe the case. I 33 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:26.400 don't know if they can get up to an eight seed, 34 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:29.560 but you know, get it, get a at least the 35 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:32.680 type of seed in you know where they can host, 36 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:35.359 an opportunity to host a super region, because that's the key, 37 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:39.200 right we know, you know, you can go anywhere and 38 00:01:39.239 --> 00:01:41.480 win a win a regional and then and if you host, 39 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:45.120 all the better. But getting that super regional, playing two 40 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:46.719 out of three at home is a big deal. 41 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:48.680 Right, and there's a chance they played well enough to 42 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:51.719 get that opportunity. So so we'll see what happens and 43 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:55.480 then that the first three three fifteen first guest time 44 00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:00.120 will backus from CBS. He had something on Twitter or 45 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:03.159 yesterday the day before h talking about the the all 46 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:06.920 time worst hires in the last ten years. And guess 47 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:10.319 who was on that list. You know, guess who's on 48 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:13.479 that list? Shocker, you guys, So you know who's on that. 49 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:15.840 It has it has to be Kevin. Guess what number 50 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:20.240 who's at though he should be one, two, three, and four. 51 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:22.719 He was none of those. He was like nine or eight. 52 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:23.479 I can't remember that. 53 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:25.199 I'm interested to know who was ahead of that. 54 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:27.479 Oh, there's been a few people you don't even recognize, 55 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.080 but there have been a few. I'm sure you know 56 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:32.439 them because if you're that, you're here that we know 57 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:32.960 who you are. 58 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:33.240 Yeah. 59 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:35.400 Yeah, So we'll get to that and just see how 60 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:39.560 he thought, uh Brent did last year, because maybe it's 61 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:41.319 a one off, maybe it's not. We'll see, you know 62 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.360 what comes of it. Yeah, I had We had coach 63 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:49.560 gonzals on yesterday. I was he was fantastic. And I 64 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:51.520 didn't know this until I saw it. Went to the 65 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:55.000 spring game. You were there the Spring Showcase whatever it's called, 66 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:58.280 and he was with the Daggi and all these guys, 67 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:01.599 well these two, and he went back and forth. Fantastic speaker, 68 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:05.199 very passionate, very and and I told him yesterday, there's 69 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:07.319 no surprise why people wouldn't want to play for you. 70 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:12.599 It's he's very very not football ish. But are we okay, 71 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:15.400 We're okay. That's strange because did you hear me? Yeah, 72 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:20.000 I won't think we're on. Okay, So just very passionate. 73 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:21.879 And then he said, well, it's not really about that. 74 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.719 It's about people believing in you. You know, kind of 75 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:27.159 like being a boss attack about yea, if people believe 76 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:29.800 in you, they were good for you, work hard for you. Yeah. 77 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:35.319 So I love that part of it. Yeah, this is 78 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:40.879 commercial time. We got stuff going on. Yeah, I hoping that. Yeah, Okay, 79 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:44.280 I'll keep talking. So we have we have Will at 80 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:51.439 the three fifteen. Okay, we're on, We're on. Okay, Yeah, okay, So. 81 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:51.960 So that's it. 82 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:53.800 We'll have we'll have Will back to the three fifteen, 83 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:54.960 and then we're gonna come early with. 84 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:56.919 Our next guest, Danny Martin. 85 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:00.759 Danny Martinez, he's the director of operations for on Softball. 86 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.240 So you know, we're just kind of talked to him 87 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:05.319 about what the season has been like. Right again, another 88 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:10.360 team going through you know first, you know, first Big 89 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:13.080 twelve season, you know, is it does it have a 90 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:15.719 different field than than the Pac twelve those kinds of things. 91 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:18.160 Well, that's the one thing that question and he's been 92 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:20.680 around a while with this program, right right, he doesn't 93 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:21.639 compare it to others. 94 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:24.199 He's been the pa announcwer for since he was a child, 95 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:27.319 I think, but we're good, they can hear us. 96 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:28.040 Yeah, but. 97 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:31.319 Now he's the director of operations. 98 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:33.240 You know, he's been in the psychic department since he 99 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:36.399 was in college and he's like forty five years old now, 100 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:37.439 not just kidding, he's thirty. 101 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:38.279 He's mid thirties. 102 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:39.759 Well, he's seen enough. 103 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:41.279 So I I was gonna say, you know, can you 104 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:43.959 compare this team of this program now to some of 105 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:47.040 the earlier programs and when not to compare it to Andrea? 106 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:49.480 But you know, is it seeing that progress? 107 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:51.079 And then how are things different now? 108 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:51.319 Right? 109 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:51.639 Again? 110 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:54.000 You know we're in the world of nil and it's 111 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:57.000 nil for softball too. You know, you got a different 112 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:00.360 coach for the first time in many years, while Caitlin 113 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:02.040 Low has been the coach of this on her fourth 114 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:06.639 year now, but but you know it's her program. What's 115 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:07.279 that been like? 116 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:07.959 Uh? 117 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:09.000 And how's it been different? 118 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:11.279 Remember we were joking when way back when we had 119 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:12.879 Can Dre on the show and he was sharing an 120 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:15.720 office with Danny for a while at Michael before Danny 121 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:20.120 was uh the softball guy. So you know, he's been 122 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:23.199 around the program as long as anybody that's with the program. 123 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:25.759 So we'll get a sense of what this year has 124 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:26.759 been like over there. 125 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:30.079 Sure, just what three years ago, Jay, they were already 126 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:32.319 saying she's not the girl, yeah, or she's not the woman. 127 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:34.800 You don't what I'm saying that when you're in it's 128 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.639 like the Tommy stuff. It's like the Tommy stuff. Relax, 129 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:40.040 don't start me on our fan. Don't start me on 130 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:40.399 the fans. 131 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:43.199 We want to get a call. Don't get on our fans. 132 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:47.439 I know what it is, what it is, Yeah, but 133 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:50.199 I like to know what this season was like for 134 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:51.759 them and how different was it? 135 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:52.000 Right? 136 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:55.480 You know, how how you know going to a going 137 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:59.399 to a big twelve venue versus what you know was 138 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:01.560 like going up the coast and playing at U C. 139 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:04.759 L A And and uh, you know in Oregon. 140 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:08.399 And all those schools that you know had teams and 141 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.439 and and how different is it? 142 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:12.360 You know, is it a different brand of softball? 143 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:15.920 So so Senor Kobe get us out at about three 144 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:18.000 twelve ish, so because we're going to go back to 145 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:19.920 back and all the commercials whatever, we'll get out of 146 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:22.160 three twelve. Him at about three fifteen, three sixteen, go 147 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:24.319 to about three thirty and then get Danny, you know, 148 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:27.279 get three forty, just so as way have a flow. 149 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.560 All right, okay, no cool? Did you watch the games 150 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:30.000 last night? 151 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:35.120 I saw, yes. I mean I like just the end 152 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:38.839 of the games. Great games, you know. I saw Aaron 153 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:41.959 Gordon's you know, three pointer. I saw most of the 154 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:44.000 some of the other games. I was watching the Dodger game. 155 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:46.399 I'm you know, just tell you the Dodgers aren't in 156 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:49.720 my house every day. So but I you know, I 157 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:52.560 was stunned at hat at the fact that that that 158 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:57.959 h nicks both games, really both under both games, but 159 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.079 particularly at Denver in that game, because they had no 160 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:02.199 business winning that game. 161 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:04.600 They were down big. They hung on, they hung on, 162 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:06.000 and then I caught you. 163 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:07.759 I was, I had a kind of at the corner 164 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:09.959 of my eye, right and then to wait a minute, 165 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:11.600 they have a chance to win this game. 166 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:12.560 And then they did. 167 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:14.839 And then Aaron Gordon, who couldn't hit a three pointer 168 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:16.240 here to save his life, couldn't hit a three point, 169 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:17.079 couldn't hit a free throw. 170 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:19.920 Now he's sitting forty You. 171 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:24.240 Know, it's funny because the the Arizona Aaron Gordon was 172 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:26.680 still on my brain when they throw him the ball 173 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:28.319 on that past and I said, he's not gonna shoot 174 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:28.680 from there? 175 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:28.959 Is he? 176 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:29.279 Yeah? 177 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:32.800 And he made it fantastic. I know he's he's you know, 178 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:34.639 he's become a good three point shooter. You know, he's 179 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:37.240 gone the chaining fry route right, and and and re 180 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:39.680 uh reinvented his game. 181 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:42.839 And and the guy, the guy's a menace. 182 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.279 You know, he's a menace defensively and now he's got 183 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:47.319 a good offensive game. 184 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.519 I mean, he's he's a player, yeah, no question. Uh 185 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:52.480 the OSCO. I was gonna ask you this, Okay, he's 186 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:55.519 doing what he's doing. What do you remember about him here? 187 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:58.279 Because he was a one and done dude. Yeah, I 188 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:00.600 remember that he couldn't make a free throw. Okay, that's 189 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:03.600 the first thing, shouldn't shoot, right, He was just strickling, 190 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:07.439 an inside guy, very physical, very energetic guy. But I 191 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:12.079 thought extremely limited and I defensively, right, I didn't understand 192 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:15.360 why he was as high a pick as he was 193 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:17.560 because he could jump, right, because he could jump out 194 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:20.360 of the gym. And and again, one of those things 195 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:23.079 where you talk about the NBA or the NFL, whoever 196 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:26.639 it might be drafting on potential. This is the guy 197 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:30.519 they thought he could be, and fortunate for the for 198 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:31.720 the Nuggets. 199 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:34.399 Right now he's become the guy people thought he could be. 200 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:36.879 Remember this is ten years removed, right, ten years have 201 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:40.000 been gone a while. So you have him, h you 202 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:42.200 had Stanley Johnson, right. The guys that you know, the 203 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:46.360 the the the guys who left after a year Bayless him, 204 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:48.840 There's been a few obviously, but what do you really know? 205 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:50.480 What do you know of them outside of what you 206 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:53.240 just said, even personally, Yeah, personally, what you. 207 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.320 Do is you look at these guys physically and what 208 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:00.320 can they do physically? And it was a thing of okay, 209 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:03.440 if he can run and jump and and and play 210 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:05.679 like that, we can get him an offensive game. Now 211 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:12.399 you know who's the uh that that a few years back? 212 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:15.519 He was a great defensive player, got into the league. 213 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:19.559 Rondie Hollis Jefferson. Right, he never got an offensive game, No, 214 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:23.440 he did, right, But Aaron Gordon did, Channing Fry did 215 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:29.639 you know? And and and somehow these these NBA people 216 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:32.320 figure that figure out who can and who can't. Well, now, 217 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:34.679 run ronde Hollis Jefferson, he got he got a good chance. 218 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:38.120 I mean he believes five or six, okay, three or four, 219 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:40.360 but even he wasn't one and done in the NBA, 220 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:44.879 and it became apparent he wasn't gonna have the offensive game. 221 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:48.279 They needed, just like uh, it's like uh not it 222 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:50.279 was the Threesome, not Manion. 223 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:55.679 The guy who went to Denver Nagy, same kind of potential. 224 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:58.120 He's been there now for three four years now, doesn't 225 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:00.519 play a whole lot, but there's still playing him and 226 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:01.080 he's still. 227 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:01.200 On the run. 228 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:03.120 They still think he might have something. 229 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:06.000 But the minute somebody else comes along that looks like 230 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:07.600 him but can do a little better than. 231 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:09.360 Him than he's done in the NBA. And that's the 232 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:12.320 business of the business. He had Bruce on yesterday and 233 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:15.120 when he talked about Dayling Terry, how much have you 234 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:17.639 heard about Daalan Terry? But he's still there. He's still there. 235 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:21.320 He's still there grinding or whatever. Yeah, not playing a 236 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:23.759 whole like a lot, but he's still check. 237 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:24.399 Yeah. 238 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:27.200 So you know, I don't know, it's a it's a 239 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:29.200 it's it's a I mean, look, it's a it's a 240 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:29.840 crap shoot. 241 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:31.440 Well, with all these guys. 242 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:34.639 Now you have Carter Bright, right, same type of thing. 243 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:37.720 I think he's much better than Gordon right now at 244 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:40.120 the same time, same place freshman year coming out, because 245 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:43.679 he can shoot, he's got some nice IQ basketball, He's 246 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:47.679 got a good size, but Aaron's He's not the physical 247 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:48.919 guy that Aaron Gordon was. 248 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:51.279 Now. He does he play great defense? 249 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:53.679 Yeah, he played really good defense and and he had 250 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:56.240 to do a lot of that this year, but not 251 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:56.919 not in not. 252 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:01.120 With the physicalness that that skiball guy. Right. 253 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.000 You know, Shoot, I'm going to play out on the 254 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:05.480 wing and cover guys out there, and he'll be able 255 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:07.679 to shoot and handle the ball in those Give me 256 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:08.120 some ads and. 257 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:09.840 You're thinking of him coming back. We gotta go, Yeah, 258 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:11.679 we gotta go. Oh, we gotta hit the throat. Just 259 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:13.279 give me twenty percent. 260 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:16.039 Ever say I'd say, I'd say it's like right around 261 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:17.519 fifty to fifty for Brent. 262 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:20.080 Yeah, really come back. Okay, we're gonna talk more about that. 263 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:21.679 It's okay, She's gonna depend on what he finds out 264 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:22.279 about himself. 265 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:25.440 Okay, let's come back and come back with mister Beckus. 266 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:27.600 Where do you buy exercise equipment? 267 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:32.480 Arizona Health Arizona Health, Arizona Health of course. 268 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:35.559 To feel better and look better. It makes sense to 269 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:38.320 buy your fitness equipment from the people who know it 270 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:41.799 better than anyone else. 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How you doing, Will doing great? 328 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:48.360 Thanks for having me on. 329 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:50.679 Yes, sir, where are you based out of Tennessee? 330 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:52.399 Yeah, Knoxville, Knoxville. 331 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:56.320 Okay, close cool, close to the ball cool, okay, cool cool? 332 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:00.639 Give you your football country, football country. I am yes, sir, good, yeah, 333 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:01.000 good for you. 334 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:04.080 And that's what you do for CBS with copy yesterday 335 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:06.000 or this morning. And I'm glad you're on the show. 336 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:10.399 Is that you had a list of your top number 337 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:13.279 I can't read about fifteen top fifteen worst hires in 338 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:16.399 the last decade, correct, And you had a guy that 339 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:20.200 we became familiar with a while back, and not too 340 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.039 many people who think of him fondly. 341 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:30.159 Yeah, Kevin someone, He's he definitely deserved his spot on 342 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.200 the list, you know. I think I think the reason 343 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:35.159 that I put him kind of in that lower range 344 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:37.799 is just because, you know, he came and went. He 345 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:41.480 didn't leave the program with any major recruiting violations or 346 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:43.919 anything crazy like that, no scandals. 347 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:46.440 Really, he just didn't work out, you know. 348 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:49.200 And I know obviously he's at the program back a 349 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:52.919 couple of years. Jedfish came in and steadily rebuilt it, 350 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:54.879 you know. 351 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:57.279 And so, like I said, a big reason. 352 00:15:57.080 --> 00:16:00.240 That he's kind of not highre is just because came 353 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:03.039 and went didn't work out, that happened sometimes. 354 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:05.639 Well, this is Jay, I'm going to tell you I'm 355 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:10.080 a little flattered by this because it was as a fan, 356 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.240 it's kind of cool that Arizona ranked to the point, 357 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:15.559 for you would think that a bad hire was worthy 358 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:20.039 of being ranked with like LSU and Arkansas and Nebraska 359 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:22.559 and some of these other schools that Arizona is well 360 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:24.480 thought of enough for if they get made a bad hire, 361 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:27.720 it made news. So that's a kind of a twisted 362 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:29.440 way of looking at it, but that's how I'm looking 363 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:31.759 at it. Well, yeah, and you know, I. 364 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:35.360 Mean someone's higher was fresh off of the Rich Rodriguez years. 365 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:38.639 And Rich Rodriguez obviously had some good success there, you know, 366 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:41.080 went to quite a few bowl games, had a ten 367 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:43.919 win season, finished ranked one year, you know, and so 368 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:45.879 it was it was a higher that came off of 369 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:49.440 a pretty solid period of football for Arizona. It's not 370 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:54.440 like Kevin someone inherited a complete disaster, right. So yeah, 371 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:59.000 I mean I think the program was on a steady trajectory, 372 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:02.960 you know, Afterguez, and then it really. 373 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:05.599 Plummeted under someone. And so that's kind of what pushed 374 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:05.960 it there. 375 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:08.279 And and Like I said, it was kind of miraculous 376 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:10.200 that Jeed Fish was able to come in and do 377 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:12.880 what he did, you know, over the course of just 378 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:15.039 a few years. So that was that was a great 379 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:17.400 fine for Arizona to to bring things back up. 380 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:21.279 So given your explanation, it makes sense that Herm was 381 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:23.880 ahead of them at number nine. I think because of 382 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:24.960 the scandals. 383 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:27.559 Yeah, yeah, I mean you look at you look at 384 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:30.319 the record that Herm Edwards left, and you know, when 385 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:32.200 you factor in the wins that he had to Va Kate, 386 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:35.400 it's it's not too bad, right, you know, he had 387 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:39.359 a couple of eight win seasons, you know, and obviously, 388 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:40.839 again it's one of those things where it just kind 389 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:44.079 of steadily decline. Not only did it steadily decline in 390 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:46.480 Arizona State got worse throughout his tenure. 391 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:50.720 But yeah, he left him with a huge in Cuba investigation. 392 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:53.119 And you know that caused players like Jade and Daniels 393 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:56.519 and Johnny Wilson to leave. Obviously, Jadan Daniels went on 394 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:59.759 to win a Heisman Trophy at LSU and Johnny Wilson 395 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:03.079 emerged into a high draft pick at Florida State, And 396 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:06.440 so yeah, I mean that's the kind of that's the kind. 397 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:09.359 Of hire that really really tanks the program. 398 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:13.200 But again, Arizona State hit a grand slam by hiring 399 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:17.920 Kenny Dillinghams, so it's not necessarily all bad. But yeah, 400 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:22.519 I mean leaving leaving insteadly investigation and not even really 401 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:25.720