WEBVTT 1 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:39.439 Hello, everybody, Happy Friday. It's Game Spot after Dark, the 2 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:45.719 show that closes out your perfectly normal, average week that 3 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:49.200 we have all had. I am your host, John le Scipe, 4 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:53.320 doing just fine, feeling happened normal, Nothing happened, That's what 5 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:53.759 I'm saying. 6 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:56.799 Nothing happened. It was a perfectly normal week. My head's 7 00:00:56.799 --> 00:00:57.960 in the sand. What could happen? 8 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:03.119 You know, yeah, exactly, the tides coming in. Who can say, Uh, 9 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:04.799 Jake Decker, how are you doing? 10 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:07.400 You know, hanging in there? 11 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:14.439 Okay, I am doing great, great. I'm thinking about pizza 12 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:17.879 is a very brave I mean, you can't eat pizza because. 13 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:18.120 You're working that. 14 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:19.560 No, I can't. 15 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:22.239 Yeah, we've already got something on that. 16 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:26.480 I can see your I thought you were gonna say 17 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:29.680 because of Nig's like airy allergy, but you're like, no, no, 18 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:32.159 he's trying to get me. Oh I see, I see 19 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:34.159 what's happening. He's trying to get I was ready this time. 20 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:35.359 It was. 21 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:39.519 You weren't ready for ship. Yeah, I was. 22 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:42.959 It's getting to the point where I the fucker will 23 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:47.920 start to get fucked. I can't. I can't. I do 24 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:49.640 all the tricks I've had up my sleep, but don't 25 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:52.000 you worry. I know how to I know how to 26 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:54.120 shuffle deck of cards now thanks. 27 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:57.920 Oh yeah a while you saw me do it and 28 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:00.120 I was like, what the fuck? He can do what 29 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:00.519 I gotta? 30 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:02.920 Yeah, so now I can do it, but I'll prove it. 31 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:06.040 We should, uh, we should play King's Corner. It's been 32 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:08.319 a while. Let's stream that. Yeah, let's do a King's 33 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:09.759 Corner stream. That sounds great. 34 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:10.280 Yeah we did. 35 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:12.879 We didn't install the uh, we have a camera that's 36 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.080 installed in the ceiling to look down directly so you 37 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:17.800 can get a bird's eye view and even see our cards, 38 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:18.080 but we. 39 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:18.879 Can't see the other card. 40 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:23.560 Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, I call those kind of games. Yeah, 41 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:24.639 analog games. 42 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:29.400 That makes sense, right, Yeah, yeah, because I tried saying like, oh, 43 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:32.520 board games are analog games, and I remember, I think 44 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:33.919 was Lucy James was like, what the fuck are you 45 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:34.360 talking about? 46 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:35.599 It was like, it's not, it's not. 47 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:38.960 They're not video games, but they're games. They're analog games. 48 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:41.960 You hold them with your hand. Yeah that's yeah, let's 49 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:43.280 just do analog games streams. 50 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:47.840 Yeah, I agree, thank you, absolutely, yeah, and we'll call 51 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:49.319 it analog. Let's play analog games. 52 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:55.039 Let's play analog games. Uh so, yeah, it's been a week. 53 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:57.319 We actually got a lot to talk about. There's been, 54 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:00.280 it's it's been. There's a lot going on this week. 55 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:02.800 And I'm not just talking about the big news. There's 56 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:05.159 been a lot of games, other games that I feel 57 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:07.639 like have not maybe been quite in the site. 58 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:12.680 Guys, I talk about the unfortunate for them. They're embargo 59 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.439 is landed. Yeah, they kind of picked on a mysterious 60 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:16.680 embargo that Nintendo had. 61 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:19.400 Yeah, they picked a weird paster direct. Yeah. 62 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:24.159 I so, we We've covered on on the site, on 63 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:27.080 Game Spot, on the Power Block, we've covered the Nintendo 64 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:30.159 switch to stuff a lot. So I don't necessarily want 65 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:32.800 to do like a whole big breakdown of it on here. 66 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:37.840 But I guess there is that big news today where 67 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:39.840 we don't we don't know what the price is going 68 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:44.719 to be in the US, kind of unprecedented. 69 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:50.240 They like did pre orders to figure out how they're 70 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:50.719 going to. 71 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:53.400 Reprice this console. I mean again, their direct to happen 72 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:59.000 on the day yea, that right being revealed, But even 73 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:02.080 then they were super cagey in the first place of 74 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:02.840 showing what the price was. 75 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:04.919 Even during that direct, they didn't show it in the direct, 76 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:06.719 which I assume is because they recorded a few days 77 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:08.520 and they waited until the last minute. But I do 78 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:11.080 find it interesting that they they didn't even hold off 79 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:14.879 for like another day. So, but I don't know, it 80 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:16.800 seems like they maybe just didn't anticipate. I mean, no 81 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:20.720 one anticipated how high and brutal the teriffs are, so. 82 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:23.639 Especially in like areas, that they didn't think what tariffs 83 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:26.360 would hit, right. Yeah, it was kind of a shock, 84 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.519 to be honest. I don't know what else to say about. 85 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:33.639 It, because there's everyone has an opinion on Everyone has 86 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:35.360 an opinion on it, and also like we just we 87 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:35.800 don't know. 88 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:39.639 Yeah, I also believe that everyone it's I have. I 89 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:41.879 have pretty I have my own opinions and feelings about 90 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:44.639 its price. I am not on the side of people 91 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:47.560 who are complaining about it. I think it's I actually 92 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:51.399 feel like it's quite an appropriate price in the market 93 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:54.319 compared to how much everything else is in this industry. 94 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:58.399 But I am also empathetic to that everyone has different 95 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:00.759 situations in their life and different finals concerns. 96 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:03.720 But hopefully I think it's totally fine to be like 97 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:06.959 disappointed and being like, oh man, I wanted to get it, 98 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:08.079 but like I just I can't. 99 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:12.439 But like that that's understandable. Yeah, be upset about it, I. 100 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:14.879 Guess, just don't you know, people are being too vocally 101 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:17.000 complaining about it. And I think people have been spoiled 102 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:20.759 with the idea of what things are valued at in general, 103 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:22.839 especially when it comes to games and media and movies, 104 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:26.399 because we live in a service subscribed world and a 105 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:29.199 place where games like Fortnite are free, and therefore people 106 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:31.680 just think that things should be priced differently or for 107 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:34.480 be free. Sure, so the concept of actually paying for 108 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:38.680 a game like my cart World that's eighty dollars, paying 109 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:39.639 a price for that is like. 110 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:42.920 What I've I've been going a decade and have not 111 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:43.560 spent that much. 112 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:45.439 I've been playing this game for free and getting free 113 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:48.079 updates and so on and so forth. So I'm just 114 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:49.759 saying I'm empathetic to people who have to deal with 115 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:51.839 that stuff. I was to think, like the price of 116 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:54.639 sixty dollars video games like hung around for. 117 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:56.560 A long grossly. 118 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:59.560 Two considering how expensive it is to make games now 119 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:03.480 compared to uh, you know, fifteen years ago, twenty years ago. 120 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:07.560 Like it's yeah, it's it's pretty sizable. But I also 121 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:11.519 I get the frustration, you know, like we're in a 122 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:15.160 situation where, like I mean, I still pay for a 123 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:16.560 lot of games. I still pay for a lot of 124 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:18.199 my consoles, but I don't pay for all of them. 125 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:20.680 Sometimes they get sent to me or sometimes I'm able 126 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:21.639 to expense, you know. 127 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:24.360 Like I mean, I just like, I straight up would 128 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:27.680 not have as many games if it wasn't for this job. 129 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:31.240 I got my consoles then, uh, but never forget. 130 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:34.079 I bought that PS five, I bought my place and 131 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:37.879 only paid for the twenty seven dollars reservation fee that 132 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:40.399 Walmart gave because Walmart never charged me the amount of 133 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:44.279 money afterword right, and I felt got over because I 134 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:47.680 fucking hate that console, and around me, I watched everyone 135 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:49.759 else be like I can't get one either if they're 136 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:51.399 out of stock or they can't afford it, and I 137 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:54.199 was like, fucking shit, twenty some dollars. 138 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:55.920 I'm like, I kind of fucking hate this thing. 139 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:58.319 I honestly think the only console I've never paid for 140 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:01.800 was and paid for it was my Xbox Series X. 141 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:04.759 And I've been here since. I paid for my PS four, 142 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:06.600 I paid for my Xbox One, I paid for my 143 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:09.519 Xbox Series S because I couldn't get an Xbox Series 144 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:12.720 X initially. So I just got a Series S. Paid 145 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:15.639 for my switch. I paid for my switch, my switch light, 146 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:19.319 and my switch o legs. Yeah, so like I was, Yeah, 147 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:22.600 I yeah, I paid for my Oculus. I've paid for 148 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:24.120 paid for all my PCs I've built. 149 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:25.879 I haven't got a console for free while working here. 150 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:30.040 Yeah, it's just the Xbox Series X that I got. 151 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:32.279 I think the main privilege is like being able to 152 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:34.720 get to borrow stuff from the office if you need it, 153 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:35.560 like a PSVR too. 154 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:39.720 Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, like 155 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:41.680 it is her job, but it is also a privilege 156 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:42.040 for sure. 157 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:43.879 Yeah, kind of inside baseball, I guess. 158 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:45.600 But yeah, yeah, sorry, you don't need you know, you 159 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:49.519 don't need to hear us being like, well, like that's 160 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:50.680 so fucking stupid. 161 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:51.199 Uh. 162 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:54.519 But yeah, I I I get the frustration about the 163 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:56.800 cost of all this stuff. It's likely going to go 164 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:57.480 up even more. 165 00:07:58.639 --> 00:07:59.959 Hope, we don't know call that. 166 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.439 I think it could. It could. It's very likely that 167 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:03.120 it goes up more. 168 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:04.600 Uh. 169 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:08.639 And if it goes up more because of you know, 170 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:13.759 the current administration, that really fucking sucks. It really sucked 171 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:14.160 playing that. 172 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:19.199 Yeah, maybe it'll also get some people to actually pay attention. 173 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:21.439 And like understand the value of what it is they're buying, Yeah, 174 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:23.319 and why they're buying, in the value of their lives 175 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:27.959 and what they're voting for. Yeah, very silver lining. 176 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.319 But anyway, let's move on from all that nonsense for now, 177 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:35.240 talk about some some video games. I want to go 178 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:40.840 not analog games, not analog games, video games, digital games. Kurt, 179 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:44.360 I want to go to you first, Hi, because we 180 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:49.039 had the fine folks moon Hood moon Hood of the 181 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:53.559 Midnight Walk in the studio a few weeks ago, and 182 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:56.759 the embargo for that just lifted. If you go to 183 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:01.240 game spots YouTube channel, there is a very long extended 184 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:04.759 gameplay demo that you did with the developers where you 185 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:08.200 get to see that game. Please explain the honest what 186 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:10.399 that game is and why it looks sick. 187 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:12.519 So if for those of you who don't know, Midnight 188 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:18.799 Walk is a completely hand made game, but it's it's 189 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.679 still a three D analog It's actually yeah, in a way, 190 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:27.399 it is analog assets. Every single thing in that game 191 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:29.759 is completely handmade, which it isn't entirely novel because we 192 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:31.440 had games like Harold Hall a bit sure. The difference 193 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:35.039 is that with the like the standout thing with Midnight 194 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:39.440 Walk is that they're over seven hundred assets that are 195 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:42.120 made by hand of a team of about like sixteen people. 196 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:44.000 And this stuff doesn't really matter in the grand scheme 197 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:45.399 of whether the game is interesting or not. 198 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:48.080 It's just a really cool context. 199 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:52.279 And they it is described as, in their own words, 200 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:56.480 a cozy horror game, and if I guess, if I 201 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:00.080 had to draw comparison, what that means is kind of 202 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.960 like Over the Garden Wall sort of style like cozy horror, 203 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:07.159 not as goofy and cartoony as whimsies Over the Garden 204 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:07.480 Wall is. 205 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:10.240 Yeah, the Midnight Walk does feel. 206 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:13.879 Very very dark and very serious in its tones, but 207 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:16.519 those tones still have a whimsiness to them, kind of 208 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:18.919 like a like a like a very variability. 209 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:23.879 Would I be correct in uh naming like Corpse Bride 210 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:24.639 or yeah? 211 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:27.799 I mean I think specifically that I think more so. 212 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:29.879 I mean obviously Tim Burns a thing, but I think 213 00:10:29.960 --> 00:10:38.240 Henry Seleek, who directed yes, like Coreline unfortunately, uh because 214 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:39.000 game sucks. 215 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:44.200 Oh I actually didn't know that. Oh yeah, yeah, that's 216 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:46.000 like because I was like I thought that movie was fine. 217 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:49.399 No, I think, I mean, I love and that book 218 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:52.399 was my favorite book as a child for like years. 219 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:56.039 But Henry Selick directed that film. I don't want to. 220 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:58.039 Denounce that people actually put work into things that are good, 221 00:10:58.039 --> 00:10:59.960 despite the people who made them that are who are monsters. 222 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:03.399 But Henry Selk also was the director of Night Before 223 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:06.919 Christmas was the director James The Giant Peach and did 224 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:10.200 Monkey Bone, which is like half stop motion and then 225 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:11.639 half live action with Bren. 226 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:14.000 I love James and the Giant Peach. That on it 227 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:16.080 to me is like, oh, it's so creepy. 228 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.519 Of course is a Tim Burton joint through and through sure, 229 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:20.000 But no, I think, I mean, I think if like 230 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:23.879 that's the easiest, Like it's like dark Child, like a child, 231 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:27.080 It's like dark cartoony world. But the Midnight Walk you 232 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:30.000 play as this uh we were able to get I 233 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:31.480 was able to see like forty minutes of the game 234 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:34.039 like up close and personal, and you it's a first 235 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:36.200 person horror game where you plays. 236 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:37.799 Like I forget what they're called, like the Awoken One 237 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:38.279 or something. 238 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:41.240 You like, come into this world and it's this dark, twisted, 239 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:43.879 fucked up place and you basically have to befriend this 240 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:47.200 little pot boy He's named pop Boy, and he lights 241 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:49.200 fires around this world and allows you to kind of 242 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:51.919 understand what's going on. It's very fairy tale heavy, very 243 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:56.200 dark fairy tale. But the game will like was terrifying. 244 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:58.080 Like we were playing it here and I was like, 245 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.600 it has just such like a dark, intense mood and 246 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:05.360 vibe to it despite being like completely handmade and really whimsy. 247 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:07.720 And uh in that way. 248 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:12.840 But anyways, I can't wait for this game. I adore 249 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:15.679 these these these artists and these developers who've been working 250 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:17.799 on I mean, uh, Klaus the CEO of the company's 251 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:20.399 been this industry for ages and I've always been kind 252 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:21.960 of in love with this style ever since Stick It 253 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.600 to the Man, even though like that game's really goofy, like. 254 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:26.480 His style has been all the way through. 255 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:29.080 Uh. And this is and they did loss in Random, 256 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:31.600 which I think is also a really unique, interesting, weird 257 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:34.360 kind of like Trip double, a game that like has 258 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:36.519 the same sort of art style, the same sort of 259 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:42.120 fairy tale darkness, but like combines a really unique idea 260 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:44.519 of combat and like rolling the dice in the middle 261 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:48.519 of combat, which then like determines the weapons you can 262 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:50.279 use in certain moments. It's really cool. 263 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:53.240 And the Midnight Walk just seems like another extension of that, 264 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:55.159 but this time they're under a new studio that they 265 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:56.559 started moon Hood. 266 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:01.240 Yeah, it's sick, it's cool, it's spooky. 267 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:02.039 Uh. 268 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:07.000 It's also completely playable in PSVR two. Neat neat, But 269 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:08.799 that is neat because they actually really lean into it 270 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:11.759 because there's like in order they is it first person? 271 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:12.679 It's a first. 272 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:14.080 Yeah, yeah, so that'd be cool. 273 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.879 Especially like seeing like the detail on all the models. 274 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:19.240 And if you watch the preview the opening of the 275 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:21.279 game you start, when you start, when you waken as 276 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:23.840 this character, you don't your site is completely blurred and 277 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:25.840 you can't hear anything, so you have to like move 278 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:29.000 through the world with very narrow sight and so that 279 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:30.960 like forces you to like get up to the wall 280 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.240 and you can see the fingerprints of like. 281 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:35.120 The stuff that these people actually created. 282 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:38.240 So like they really lean into this, like making this 283 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:42.519 world feel like tactile and actually like handmade, and for contacts, 284 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:44.600 like they when they make the models, they then three 285 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:45.960 D scan them in and that's how they do it. 286 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:49.279 But we ask them, it's like is it faster? Is 287 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.720 it really any faster making these things by hand versus 288 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:57.159 making them blend whatever, and Cloud said, it is infinitely 289 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.080 faster because all they need to do is when they 290 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:01.039 are playing and test their game, they realize, oh, we're 291 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.679 missing a thing, and they just have to go down 292 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:05.720 to the table where they create all their stuff, make 293 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:07.080 it three D scan. 294 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:07.919 It, and then it's in the game. 295 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:08.720 Oh that's cool. 296 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:13.080 It's so they cut like it's it's awesome. 297 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:15.519 And I was saying too, like for it's like obviously 298 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:19.000 we've seen games are handmade, but seeing them is such 299 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:23.600 like finite detail. It like cuts in a weird way, 300 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:28.000 like kind of like undermines like graphical capabilities by actually well, 301 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:30.320 these things are just being scanned in exactly as they look, 302 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:31.879 and therefore they look amazing. 303 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:33.240 They look so realistic. 304 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:35.200 Swedish. 305 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:36.399 Correct Swedish. 306 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:39.720 And then Olov, who is the writer and like director 307 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:43.759 of the game, his like own shoe, like his their 308 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:46.039 own items are in the game, so like his shoes 309 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.080 in the game, like he uses a thing and like 310 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:50.440 Klaus's coffee grinder is a thing that like gets up 311 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:52.080 and walks around at one point in the game. 312 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:53.440 So cool. 313 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:56.600 But as I was saying, in VR, you can really 314 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:59.200 like get up close, and then this really cool feature 315 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:02.360 where in order to find something in the world you 316 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:04.480 have to close your eyes and listen. All your senses 317 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:06.639 become heightened, and when you play in VR, you. 318 00:15:06.679 --> 00:15:11.600 Can actually too your eyes and then you can read 319 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:13.399 that your eyes are closed, and that's when the sense is. 320 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:17.799 So you have to like actually really close your eyes. 321 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:20.159 And it's also mechanic to defeat certain monsters. 322 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:23.480 So like certain creatures in order to defeat them, you 323 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:25.440 have to like look at them and then shut your 324 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:27.159 eyes like to wish them away, and then when you 325 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:29.480 open them again, they're gone. So like they use it 326 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:32.759 in such cool, clever, really innovative sick ways that I'm like, 327 00:15:32.840 --> 00:15:34.159 I can't like want to like seeing it. 328 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:35.759 And when you're playing it flat. 329 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:37.679 Like on screen, there's just a bolt button to press 330 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:39.200 the close your eyes instead, but it still has the 331 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:42.759 same effect of seeing a wall and like having the 332 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:44.399 symbol you have to look at and then close your eyes. 333 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:45.720 When we open them, gun has just gone. You can 334 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:46.360 just go through it. 335 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:50.679 It's man, I won't play this in VR exactly. 336 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:53.320 And there's also like they do such a good job 337 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:55.919 with the sense of scale because they create these actual 338 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:00.480 puppets that will They created like this whole actual human 339 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.559 sized puppet that the three C three D scanned in 340 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:05.320 one of the worlds. They showed me that puppet is 341 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:09.480 towering over you in this city. So anytime you can 342 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:12.759 look up and like see this thing towering over you. 343 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:14.559 And I was like, this is in VR. This would 344 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:16.600 be amazing, this would be it's just as good flat, 345 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:19.200 but like the idea of scale and scope is just good. 346 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:23.200 So cool to do like a documentary on that game. 347 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:26.039 Yeah, yeah, fly over to Sweden hang out with those 348 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:27.320 cool cats, sixteen of them. 349 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:28.960 I would love to go back to Sweden. When I 350 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:31.600 went last year, I had a great time. 351 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:33.519 Maybe we can make something that they would put in 352 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:35.759 their games. That'd be yeah, kind of cool. 353 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:41.600 I've got an idea, can't Yeah, can you wait, I'll 354 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:44.440 like crinkle it up to put this in. 355 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:48.759 But again, we were I was very happy that we 356 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:50.120 were able to get them in and see that game 357 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:52.759 hands on. And of course the barbo lifted the day 358 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:56.320 after the switch to direct which own embargo of lots 359 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:58.799 of things, so kind of a perfect I don't know, 360 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:00.000 kind of a storm of stuff happen. 361 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:01.840 Yeah, I'm glad that we got to play it and 362 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:03.720 see it me too. It look really awesome. Do you 363 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:04.880 know when it comes out? 364 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:07.079 Comes out in May? It comes on a few weeks. 365 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:11.319 Okay, yeah, amaze. Yeah, well yeah, I. 366 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:15.559 Think it's May eighth or something of that nature. It's soon, yeah, 367 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:20.160 but uh yeah, I was like, as I mentioned, I 368 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:21.839 played Lost in Random. I like that game. 369 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:25.200 It has really cool ideas and mechanics. It doesn't they 370 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:28.240 don't marry together in the end. Is like an amazing game. 371 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:32.359 But it's a good game obviously, can't say for this one. 372 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:36.720 But it's just I've seen enough that I'm so excited 373 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:38.119 and like want to see more. 374 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:39.559 And just like the creature. 375 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:41.960 They have this amazing monster that's on these like spider 376 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:46.119 legs and its face opens up to like another face 377 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:48.599 inside of it that is like fucking terrifying, and you 378 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:50.160 have to like trick this thing and like get into 379 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:52.160 closets to try and like lure it in different ways. 380 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:54.039 But then you have a like a you eventually get 381 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:57.039 a gun that you like load matchsticks into to shoot 382 00:17:57.160 --> 00:17:58.640 okay up around you. 383 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:01.359 I didn't to see much of that. I just saw 384 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:02.880 like a very quick glimpse of it. 385 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:06.200 Did you get an idea of how like the gun 386 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:08.000 feels in VR, Like are. 387 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:10.039 You doing I don't know if you're actually doing that, 388 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:12.359 but I during the gameplay that I was shown, there 389 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:14.640 is a lot of like physically picking up items. Like 390 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:16.640 for example, when you in the open the game, you 391 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:18.400 have to put your ears on in order to hear 392 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:20.440 and your eyes, so you have to like physically pick 393 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:22.200 up the eyes and shove them in your face and 394 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:23.559 like pick up your ears and put them on your 395 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:25.799 head in order to actually start hearing the world around you. 396 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.079 So I don't know, in a weird way, it kind 397 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:33.559 of and this is a game I don't like just 398 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:35.240 as a heads up, but it did. 399 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:37.440 The way the world works in this kind of puzzly 400 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:39.279 weird way where like you're kind of figuring out the 401 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:42.680