WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:05.360 A M. Six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on 3 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:10.759 demand on the iHeartRadio app. I love all the shows 4 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:13.480 I listened to on this station other stations, but I 5 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:16.160 will say one thing about our show. And I don't 6 00:00:16.719 --> 00:00:19.280 give our show compliments very often, but I will give 7 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:22.480 it this this week, I have heard a lot of 8 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:26.760 different people talk about stories that we brought you here first, 9 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:29.879 not to brag, not to brag, but if you want 10 00:00:29.879 --> 00:00:32.640 to stay on top of things when they happen right here, 11 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:36.840 right here, nine to one, baby's you want to be. 12 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:38.759 If you want to know stuff before your friends know it, 13 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:42.479 this is the show because we kind of pride ourselves 14 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:44.960 and staying on top of things as they happen. 15 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:52.719 For example, no smoke, for example, black book, I should say. 16 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:55.000 But two instances of black smoke already. 17 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:56.920 Oh I thought you wanted me to throw people under 18 00:00:56.960 --> 00:00:57.240 the butt. 19 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:00.039 No, no, no, don't do that. Oh no, that's going to 20 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:02.759 us some issues. We don't need that. Okay, we do 21 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:03.799 not need that anymore. 22 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:06.640 Do we have issues? 23 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:09.560 Well, there might be, Oh there's smoke coming from the system. 24 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:12.319 Chair. Is that white? It's hard to say, that's white. 25 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:12.599 Bro. 26 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:14.359 That is relax. 27 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:16.719 Relax until bro, that's white. 28 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:19.920 They are cheering. There's people cheering that is white. That 29 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:20.959 is white smoke. 30 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:21.920 Well it's not. 31 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:22.879 You can't even here. 32 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:33.599 I don't remember exactly how it goes from this point. 33 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:36.239 Well I do. We get a new pope up in here. 34 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:39.040 Channel eleven is running with old Oh my. 35 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:42.359 God, Channel eleven. That's like another radio show right there, 36 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:48.120 awkward Channel eleven. We've got white live shot. You get 37 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:52.719 some here, you celebrate. Come on, now, where where's the 38 00:01:52.959 --> 00:02:01.359 church music? Holy hell, my goodness. There we go for 39 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:04.959 the one point four billion Catholics out there. We have 40 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:08.520 a new pope. Yes, we don't know who he is. 41 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:11.319 Will he be from America? No? 42 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:13.680 Will he be from France? Probably? 43 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.360 I love this. They have a drone shot. 44 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.639 Of Oh my gosh, Saint Peter Square is crawling with 45 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:24.719 people there to say I was there when I saw 46 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:29.439 the white smoke flow out of the chimney of the 47 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:35.120 Sistine Chapel to signal a new leader of the world's Catholics. God, 48 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:41.280 no doubt is there. He's everywhere. Sorry, I don't do 49 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:42.560 this as well as America. 50 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:48.520 We have the microphone actually but oh, at Peter, let's 51 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:48.919 get it. 52 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:58.120 That's the cheering. Vin Scully would just let the crowd 53 00:02:58.199 --> 00:02:59.879 tell the story, and that's what we will do. 54 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:09.719 If they had a line that worked, apparently it would 55 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:10.039 be great. 56 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:16.479 But white smoke and bells. Bells are now tolling, signaling 57 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:20.800 the new pope has been elected. How many hours was 58 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:24.680 this jury in for? Just about twenty four About twenty 59 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:26.280 four hours, my goodness. 60 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:29.520 And this would be the fourth ballot, which. 61 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:33.599 Would be kind of in line with what we saw 62 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:37.479 on the two, not for Pope Francis, but the two 63 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:38.280 previous popes. 64 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:41.879 I believe it's longer than twenty four hours, because this 65 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:43.039 is afternoon. 66 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.199 We were talking yesterday that when they closed the doors. 67 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:48.439 Remember right before our show started, we talked about the 68 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:50.240 the Oh. 69 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.439 That's right, they did. You're right, you're absolutely right. 70 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:53.280 So it was about. 71 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:56.639 Twenty twenty maybe slightly more than them, Patricia was correct, 72 00:03:57.199 --> 00:03:58.240 But yeah, twenty four hours. 73 00:03:58.280 --> 00:03:58.879 It's pretty good. 74 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:01.000 Wow. So I thought it was going to be a 75 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:03.360 couple of days, but they've got ready to roll. Who 76 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:04.400 do you think it's going to be? 77 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:05.120 This? 78 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:08.879 My god, the odds makers right now are going nuts. 79 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:11.199 That's why I was saying I don't remember the process. 80 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:13.560 Twenty thirteen was the last time we saw a process 81 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:16.759 like this, And how long between the confirmation that we 82 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:20.120 have a pope and the announcement of the pope. 83 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:22.839 Do you think this is proof that God loves us 84 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:23.959 more than the other shows? 85 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:26.079 I think I don't know. 86 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:30.959 I think divine timing of you walking in here and 87 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:33.639 dropping your junk on the table and saying that we 88 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:37.240 break stories on this show, and then all of the sudden, 89 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:41.160 the Lord finds it in his heart to pump white 90 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:43.959 smoke out of the chimney at the Sistine Chapel, you know. 91 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:47.439 Just saying I know who you prayed to this morning. 92 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:49.600 I'm telling you you may have hit you may have 93 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:55.240 hit a nerve. That's that's pretty good. 94 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:58.879 Again, no word, And it's going to be a while 95 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:01.879 before we have any idea specifically who has been elected 96 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:06.399 as a pope. But the white smoke out of the chapel, sorry, 97 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:09.199 the white smoke out of the chimney at the Sistine 98 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:14.040 Chapel means that the College of Cardinals has chosen their 99 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:15.240 next This is incredible. 100 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:21.519 We'll always remember that we were together here when this happens. Yeah, 101 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:22.279 I think so. 102 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:25.319 You're walking in here with a certain amount of swagger. 103 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:29.920 I know that's like, that's like calling your shot. It 104 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:32.519 was pretty good, pretty high level. It was pretty good. 105 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:35.639 We should probably just go home. 106 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:37.120 We should retire. 107 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:42.560 The show is over. It has gone full circle. All right, Well, 108 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:44.480 we'll find some stuff out. 109 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:47.480 What we know about the white smoke from the papal 110 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:51.240 conclave means there is a pope a fifth ballot. I 111 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:56.240 was wrong, fifth ballot. Pope elected on the fifth ballot. 112 00:05:56.800 --> 00:05:59.959 We'll see if we can get any of the palace intrigue. 113 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.120 Yeah, I want to hear about those first four ballots too. 114 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:04.399 How do they choose their name? 115 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:06.360 Just remember, let's get into it. 116 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:08.160 Just get in their pope's name in the name of 117 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:08.639 the bond. 118 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:09.480 I love that. 119 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:11.319 I'm fascinated by it. 120 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:13.360 Garyan Shannon will continue just a moment. 121 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.720 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 122 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:19.839 AM six forty. 123 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:23.600 What's up, Gary and Shannon? 124 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:28.199 Avn Moose bopa, aven moose bopa. 125 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:31.680 We got a pope, baby, Yes we do. 126 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:35.439 White smoke came out of the chimney, the one at 127 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:39.759 the top of the Sistine Chapel, which means they have 128 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:43.720 elected a new pope. Any moment, we're expecting to have 129 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:46.800 some sort of an announcement. I don't know if it 130 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:49.319 will be in Italian or Latin, or what language it 131 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:51.879 will be in, but we'll let you know who. 132 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:56.439 Yeah, what is the order of this question? So we 133 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:01.000 so the white smoke comes out, and let me see 134 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:09.839 if the internet works today, because this is gonna be fun. 135 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:11.800 This is gonna be a fun thing to happen here. 136 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:22.439 I'm assuming we'll hear from somebody within the hour, not 137 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:26.920 just the thousands of people waiting there in Saint Peter's Square. 138 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:32.040 But again, it's the two thirds majority required to win 139 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:37.000 the conclave. And this was the fifth ballot, which means, 140 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:39.319 you know, who knows the first ballot could have had 141 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:43.079 like eighteen names rise to the chart right, and then 142 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:48.920 they cluster and they caucus, probably and a name kind 143 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:52.240 of circulates, or a couple names, and then it whittles 144 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:57.759 down to one. But that's a pretty quick conclave. One 145 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:03.680 hundred and thirty three, and the majority of them were 146 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:07.519 picked by Pope Francis, by the way, who cast a 147 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:11.800 wide net around the world. But some people say that 148 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:14.319 this may be a sign that this will be somebody 149 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:19.399 who embraces his outlook continues Pope Francis's work. But the 150 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:22.439 overarching feeling was that they were going to pick somebody 151 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:24.600 more conservative this time around. 152 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:27.079 Yeah, that the pendulum was going to sort of swing 153 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:29.160 back ideologically. 154 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:31.759 And who knows, like what people say to become a cardinal, Like, 155 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:34.679 I'll say whatever I need to to the pope to 156 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:36.799 become a cardinal. I'll be like, yeah, I'm totally down 157 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:39.240 with your progressive thing. Who am I to judge too, 158 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:44.200 just to go ahead and become the cardinal and get 159 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:45.799 that cardinal robe, you know what I mean. 160 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:49.960 So, according to the Archdiocese of Boston, once a new 161 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:53.440 pope has been elected, that pope, whoever it might be, 162 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:58.720 chooses their papal name and receives the obedience of the cardinals, 163 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:02.360 and then the senior cardinal deacon announces the name of 164 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:04.759 the new pope, who then gives his blessing to the people, 165 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:08.240 the city, the church, and the world. A new Bishop 166 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:10.480 of Rome and a universal pastor of the Church has 167 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:15.039 been chosen. If I'm not mistaken, one of the highest 168 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:19.879 level cardinals is a cardinal here out of the United States. 169 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:22.200 Yeah, So I don't know if that changes. 170 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.840 The order of delivery in terms of the languages that 171 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.080 will be spoken, because this is you know, there's multiple 172 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:30.240 languages that they are going to appeal to. With one 173 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:33.840 point four billion Catholics around the world, how cool. 174 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:36.679 Is it for the people who happened to be there 175 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:38.080 in Saint Peter's Square. 176 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:40.240 I mean, the people. 177 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:43.200 That were there were already hearing reports about how emotional 178 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.320 they got. You know, they did it, they did it. 179 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:49.000 People just crying there at the sign of the white smoke. 180 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:54.279 Rosilia Cordero is from Brazil. One of the people crying 181 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:57.279 and embracing our friends. I'm so happy, it's so incredible to 182 00:09:57.320 --> 00:09:59.240 be here at this moment. I don't know how to 183 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:02.480 express myself, but I'm grateful to God for this moment. 184 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:07.120 Each billow, they said, prompted a fresh wave of emotion 185 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:10.360 from the masses. Billow of smoke each well, because it 186 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:13.759 kept billowing. Yeah, and there's a slight wind and there's 187 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:16.919 another poof, and then another poof and then another wave 188 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:22.559 of tears. The bells tolling they had only been sequestered, 189 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:28.320 yes since since since yesterday. So so yeah, he's picking 190 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:31.120 his papal name. That they say that that's going to 191 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:34.320 indicate what pop kind of pope he intends to be. 192 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:36.919 Did we have more about the names? 193 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:40.320 Yeah, so, among other things, the previous pope, the one 194 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:45.080 who just passed away, Pope Francis. His name was Jorge 195 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:50.759 Mario Bergoglio, and when the late pope was the he 196 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:54.039 was the first to use the name Francis as a 197 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.840 papal name. The most common name is John, and then 198 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:01.840 you've got Benedict and Gregory and Clement and others that 199 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:04.639 have been chosen more than a dozen times over the 200 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:06.080 course of the popes. 201 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:07.240 There have been a lot of John's. 202 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:10.720 Twenty one of them have been named John, and I 203 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:13.360 guess twenty three if you count the combination of John. 204 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:17.240 Paul France has said that either he or Pope John 205 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:20.399 the twenty fourth would be attending an event the following year. 206 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:22.879 Of course, there were speculation that he would end his pontificate. 207 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:23.240 Early. 208 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:27.440 Gregory, Benedict, Clement, as I mentioned, were popular, though not 209 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:33.600 officially recognized by the church. Anti popes, those who opposed 210 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:36.279 the selection of the pope and then thought they were 211 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:38.279 the rightful heads of the Catholic Church. In the history 212 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:41.039 of the church, they've occasionally influenced the numbering and the 213 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:45.720 sequent subsequent I should say papal names like Benedict the sixteenth, 214 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:49.840 the one who came before Francis. There are twenty one John's, 215 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:56.440 but no Pope John the twentieth eight Bonafaches, I think, 216 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:59.000 but no Pope Bonafache the seventh. 217 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:06.279 What's your money on France, Italy, Africa, America, South America? 218 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:09.080 I would have said Africa if the. 219 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:13.360 Hey, if Francis was a little bit more conservative, like 220 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:16.039 there's a there's a consistent pattern of them kind of 221 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:19.279 going back and forth, and Francis was very progressive. 222 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:21.159 And I don't know if I'm. 223 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:25.120 Going to go with an Italian or French. I think French, 224 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:26.200 but I just. 225 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:30.440 Might The cardinal that they were talking about from Africa 226 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:32.759 is conservative, right he is? 227 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:36.080 Yeah, So but I just that's just that's a that's 228 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:39.399 a thirty to one odds on that on that race horse. 229 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:42.000 You know, you look at France in Italy, you're looking 230 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:45.679 at six to one odds, you're looking at a sovereignty, 231 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:49.799 you know, journalism or whatever the hell that other horse 232 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:53.360 was named. Okay, so so here's the deal. All eyes 233 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:55.679 are on the balcony right now, because there's not much 234 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:57.159 that needs to be done. You got to fill out 235 00:12:57.159 --> 00:13:00.200 the paperwork. What's your what's your papal name? Right, and 236 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:04.600 then the dude he puts on a freshly tarraled, white 237 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:08.840 tailored white cossack, that is the papal cossack. And then 238 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:12.200 he puts on that ceremonial fisherman's ring. Remember we told 239 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:13.879 you about the fisherman's ring. 240 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.320 And it's new to him because the other one was crushed. 241 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:16.639 Right. 242 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.480 He will be led through the Hall of Benedictions and 243 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:25.120 out onto the balcony known as the Logia of the Blessings, 244 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:27.399 and that is the balcony that all the cameras are 245 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:34.000 trained on. It's a beautiful balcony floor to ceiling windows. 246 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:38.360 There beautiful long maroon drapes tied. 247 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:39.840 At the sides around it. 248 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:43.840 His identity will be revealed on that balcony to the 249 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:47.440 thousands gathered below and all of us watching millions around 250 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:47.919 the world. 251 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:49.840 And it's going to happen soon. 252 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:52.440 This first appearance is going to happen soon because again 253 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.240 he's just got to fill out the paperwork, put on 254 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:57.000 the ring, change the robe, and showtime. 255 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:02.120 Well, we'll come back hopefully it happens during hours. 256 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:02.879 Here, damn right it will. 257 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:04.799 Gary, we have a chance for you to win one 258 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:06.600 thousand dollars. 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We're on 271 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:39.360 Pope Watch. 272 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:44.480 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 273 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:45.960 AM six forty. 274 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:50.600 Gary and Shannon KFI AM six forty live everywhere on 275 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:53.840 the iHeartRadio app. Yes, the new Pope has been elected. 276 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:56.799 We will have the first appearance soon on the balcony 277 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:00.440 when he will be revealed to the world. Little bit 278 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:05.000 more about how popes choose their names and the significance 279 00:15:08.039 --> 00:15:10.799 the pope's chosen name is not just a preference, they say, 280 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:13.799 or a nod to a favorite saint. It's the first 281 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.600 message to the world about who the pope intends to be, 282 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:21.440 what legacy he honors. For the first five hundred years, 283 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:25.279 by the way, popes retained their birth names. In fact, 284 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:29.039 the practice of adopting a new name only began with 285 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:33.600 Pope John the Second in fifteen thirty three. Why he 286 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:38.440 was born with the name Mercurius, and he changed his 287 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:43.639 name to avoid the pagan connotations associated with Mercury, of course, 288 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:47.320 the Roman god. The last pope to keep his birth 289 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:51.519 name was Marcellus the Second in fifteen fifty five, so 290 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:55.279 this is now customary since the Old Age of fifteen 291 00:15:55.360 --> 00:16:01.480 fifty five. The most popular papal names, as you mentioned, John, Gregory, Benedict, Clement, 292 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:05.559 and Innocent. No formal rules on how a pope selects 293 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:09.200 his name. According to an assistant professor at Notre Dame, 294 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:14.480 Joshua mcmahonaway, who I think that Notre Dame gets gets to, Uh, 295 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:19.080 they be the they're busy today. They're busy today, he said, 296 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:21.440 few rules for the man at the top. They're allowed 297 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:25.360 to choose what they want. There is an unwritten tradition. However, 298 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:31.679 no pope has taken the name Peter the Second. Ah, 299 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:34.360 this is out of reverence for Saint Peter, the first 300 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:35.320 pope appointed by. 301 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:36.279 Christ, the saint. 302 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:38.840 You you named your dog after unintentionally? 303 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:42.559 But yes, but Notre. 304 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:46.000 Dame says, I suspect it's humility, or perhaps even because 305 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:48.279 one does not want to compare oneself to the one 306 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:52.639 pope we know Christ chose himself. Amen to that? Who 307 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:55.360 wants to be that guy? Show a little humility around here. 308 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:01.039 Not all popes chose their names based on paths. Pope 309 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:04.720 Pious the Second, who led back in the fourteen hundreds, 310 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:09.880 picked his name why because he loved books. He chose 311 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:14.240 Pious after a character named Annias and a famous poem 312 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:17.799 who was called Pius Annius. How about that? 313 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:18.960 I didn't know that either. 314 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:20.599 I have a friend who named her daughter after a 315 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:23.240 character if she read it about in a book. And 316 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:27.279 that's how popes can do it too. Another example is 317 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:29.759 Pope Julius the Second. He first wanted to be called 318 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:34.079 Formosis the Second because why, Gary, what do you think 319 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:35.359 formosis means in. 320 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:39.240 Latin first person? Formosis? 321 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:40.480 Handsome? 322 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:45.000 Oh, the cardinals said, how dare you? 323 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:47.880 So he went with Julius the second. 324 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:50.759 Instead, here's the other. That's interesting. 325 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:53.400 Do you think whoever has been elected as the new 326 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:56.480 pope do you think he kind of plays these off 327 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:01.240 couple of the cardinals just as I was thinking Pope Lego, Yeah, 328 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:03.759 and they're like, nah, it doesn't what about Pope uh 329 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:06.400 jeff right, it's not a real thing. 330 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:09.319 What about Pope Ulysses or something? 331 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:12.279 Yeah, totally. It's like your confirmation name, you know, you 332 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:13.160 bounce it around. 333 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:14.240 How did you? 334 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:17.880 I said f you to everybody, and I went rogue 335 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:19.200 with my confirmation name. 336 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:21.599 Your confirmation name is rogue pretty much? 337 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:24.759 What is it? 338 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:26.720 Barbara Marianna? 339 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:27.559 Oh okay? 340 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:29.279 And why is that? Why is that a bad? 341 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:29.559 Well? 342 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:32.759 I kind of it took two and made a little uh, 343 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:36.359 made it a little fluffy. Could have been Mary or Anne, 344 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:39.039 although my middle name is Anne, right, that'd be My 345 00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:42.240 grandmother wanted Dolores so badly, God rest her soul, and 346 00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:43.039 I didn't do it. 347 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:44.480 I didn't do it. I should have done it. 348 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:47.240 I still get I almost said a bad word to 349 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:51.039 this day from my uncle for not choosing Dolores as 350 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:52.279 my confirmation name. 351 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:53.640 Still gets mad at me. 352 00:18:54.799 --> 00:19:00.680 All of the different uniformed personnel are making their way 353 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:07.839 to Saint Peter Square, just outside the logia, this big balcony, 354 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.240 where they will make an announcement where they're actually read 355 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:14.720 what is called the habeas Papem, the statement that we 356 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:18.960 have elected a new Pope. And as I mentioned earlier, 357 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:24.720 it would be the pastor the senior cardinal deacon who 358 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:29.160 will announce the habeas papem, the name of the new Pope, 359 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:33.000 and the name that or who will be the Pope, 360 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:35.720 and then the papal name that they have chosen, and 361 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:37.960 then the new Pope gives his blessings to all of 362 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:39.680 the people there and all of the. 363 00:19:39.640 --> 00:19:40.960 People way in the world. I can't wait. 364 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:44.880 There is something odd about the naming of the popes 365 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:49.079 when it comes to John. In nineteen fifty eight, Pope 366 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:53.400 John the twenty third was elected, but there was never 367 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:59.079 a Pope John the twentieth. This happened because of confusion 368 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:02.519 and old rec words, mistakes, and the counting of some 369 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:07.640 fake popes called anti popes. So now the official list 370 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:10.519 says there have been twenty one pope's named John, even 371 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:14.680 though the number twenty is missing, And then if. 372 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:17.480 You count the John Pauls, there were two of them, 373 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:20.359 so then that makes twenty three. 374 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:25.759 Now our last Pope, Pope Francis, he chose Saint Francis 375 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:29.279 of Assisi. It was a big deal at the time 376 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:32.000 because no pope had picked a completely new name in 377 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:35.319 over one thousand years, not since Pope Lando in nine 378 00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:38.680 to fourteen. Pope Francis later said he was moved by 379 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:41.960 Cardinal Claudio Hums, who hugged him after his election and said, 380 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:44.759 don't forget the poor. That made him think of Saint 381 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:48.519 Francis of Assisi, known for living simply and caring for 382 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:51.319 the poor. Also the animals, as we all learned yesterday 383 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:54.000 on the show, Saint Francis is the patron saint of 384 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:55.000 the animals as well. 385 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:57.319 I mean, this new pope, I think could simply right, 386 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:01.880 and it could simply choose Pope Francis the second. 387 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:04.000 I mean, if there was a plan. 388 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.599 To continue to continue, it could. 389 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:09.240 Because like you said, it's kind of an homage to 390 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:10.880 whoever's sort. 391 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:14.079 Of I think maybe ideology John, maybe we'd bring back John. 392 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:20.000 Huh. That about another John Paul, A little nostalgia for 393 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:20.759 gen X. 394 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:24.319 I don't know gen X that's why they're that's who 395 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:24.880 they're going from. 396 00:21:24.920 --> 00:21:30.240 The roof terraces of the Postolictic Palace have now been 397 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:31.759 filled up with people as well. 398 00:21:31.799 --> 00:21:33.039 This is Vatican. 399 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:39.960 Staff, Apostolic, apostolic whatever. I'll say a couple Hail Mary's 400 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:43.000 later for that. The Vatican staff have come out to 401 00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:48.240